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MLB Baseball ⚾ World Series Review + Free Agency Preview
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BALL & BUDS presents "MLB Baseball World Series Review ⚾ Free Agency Preview" featuring Amul The Agilist, Allen Peralez (Let's Talk Sports) & Sports Professor (BALLandBUDS)
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Transcript
Introduction and Apology
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Peace with the millions!
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toe it to release the flow created by this micro light
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Action packed back to back in fact this monster will go y'all better let him know Man with the master plan and you have no need to know You came prepared now get ready for the show
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If I leave here tomorrow, would you still remember me? Ah, that was weird.
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Wow. For I must be trying to have it on now. Because there's too many places places I've got you to see.
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Come on now. Let's get it together, guys. But
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Come on now. Things just couldn't be. Amul, can you get on beat, sir? I need you to get on beat, Amul. Please. There's a rhythm to the song. You just say the words. You sing them. I'm not.
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Okay. God bless. That was a horrible start. Y'all we apologize, but we don't. Thank you for tuning in. We're just having a good time today on a Saturday. Happy. yeah we do something different Yeah, there you go.
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Happy y'all are joining us. Thank you so
Engagement and Photography Discussion
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And we always like new subscribers. So that being said, let me introduce you to my brothers here with me. You've seen them before, you know them, you love them from our previous and MLB baseball coverage.
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ah First of all, to my left hand side, got my brother, Amul, the Agilist. How are you doing today, my friend? I'm doing fine, sir. How are you doing this afternoon? Hey, you know what it is. ah Tell them people where they can find you at.
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AM 23 Photography, just edition this morning. If you pop on there now, there's like multiple moon pictures because we've just been having lot of moons. got another super moon December 4th or 5th. Get out there.
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Look up. We're good. There you go. I like your pictures of the beaver moon. When I read beaver moon, I had a very different thought of what I was going to see before I actually saw the picture. Hey,
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like yeah a P, how are doing today? where you
Emphasis on Mental Health
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can Hey, what's up guys? beaver
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Jesus. I'll just talk on beavers. Jesus. Hey, doing good, man. Doing good. Happy Saturday. Also, won't be remiss without saying rest in peace to Marshawn Nealon.
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Again, took his own life this past week, unfortunately. Two days after scoring his first career NFL touchdown, which sucks.
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That that just just shows you how terrible mental some some people's mental health can be. All I got to say is don't be afraid to ask for help. I've struggled with it too. I've dealt with mental health problems pretty much my entire life, but thankfully got people like Omar, people like Amul and others that I can reach out to. So don't be afraid to ask for help, man.
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You got people that care about you. So. Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. I want i want to second that ah sentiment. I also have dealt with mental health in my past, and it's something that you definitely should get help for. I know it especially for men, there's a stigma that you shouldn't go get help and shouldn't go through therapy and things like that, but therapy really helps. I went through it, and I'm not afraid to admit it, and it really helped. And, you know, hey we got to look out for each other, and definitely not only should you Watch out for yourself and ask for help, but also just reach out to others, even just saying hello and a smile most the time, which is what I try to do to everybody that I see just in case, because you never know if someone is just having a bad day and maybe your hello, how you doing? Maybe ah just even a smile might brighten their day and you never know, um because again, like AP said, you never know what's actually happening.
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going on with another person we all deal with a lot of different stresses a lot of different trials in our life and ah you never know how everyone is going to handle those different trials and we all handle things differently and um with the with the I don't want to say promotion because that's a bad word, but for lack of a better word, with the you know more awareness of mental health these days, it's become a lot less stigmatized, even though it still is.
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ah Don't be afraid, as AP said. Don't be afraid. AP, where can they find you?
Social Media and MLB World Series Introduction
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Great message. You can find me at April Alice 30 on Twitter. I'm also ah on the the Let's Talk Sports Network, Rec Room Sports Hub, which we did lock it in this morning with our college football bets. We're doing it tomorrow morning for the NFL.
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And then, of course, Sunday night postgame tomorrow night as well, following the Steelers-Chargers game, which should be a good one. All right, there you go. Yes, make sure you tap in with Let's Talk Sports. AP is all over the airwaves doing sports shows on Let's Talk Sports Network. There you can find them on Let's Talk Sports with the brown logo on YouTube. Don't be fooled by imitators that try to call themselves. Let's Talk Sports. There is only one, which, by the way, ap I need to get with you so I can get hooked up on back to the Let's Talk Sports YouTube, not YouTube, but Facebook group so I can start streaming there again.
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You would have to talk to Tanner about that. That's not my – That's not my – That's what I need to know. Reach out to him. But anyways, yeah, thank you, everybody, for tuning in. Today we're to talk MLB World Series.
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Oh, and as well, make sure you tune in tomorrow for our football show, Sunday Showdown, after the day games, before the Sunday night game. on YouTube at Ball & Buds. But anyways, here to talk a little and MLB World Series. What a great World Series it was. One of the best of all time. We'll tell you where that ranks for us. We will also talk MLB free agency, some off-season news as, yeah, we're going to take our break for the off-season from talks. so We'll be back after. This will probably be our last one until February or March.
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So um we'll talk a little bit of off-season as well. That being said, let's kick this bad boy off. Gentlemen, what an amazing World Series. By the way, go check out the short I put out yesterday um on YouTube. But what an amazing, it's already got 15,000 views.
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What an amazing ah World Series this was that we saw started out, right, ah that We were going a little back and forth. We obviously know that we got to a seventh game, which everybody knows that's the best two words in sports, right? Game seven, um game six that led us into that was amazing as well. So first of all, let's just get our overall thoughts on the World Series. And then I want to actually go into at least game six and game seven where we can talk about the ending of the series. But what were your thoughts on the series overall? AP, we will start with you.
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I mean, it was a fun World Series. It's probably one of the best we've had and in quite some time as far as an entertainment standpoint goes. I mean, it had a little bit of everything. You had the 18-inning marathon. You had some good defense at times from from both sides, offense from both sides.
00:08:19
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Some of the pitching was great in some instances. Yamamoto was fantastic. ah even Even some of the Blue Jays pitchers pitched very well in this series. So um for for a serious that not mini my boy savage baby let go so first first series that not many people gave the Blue Jays a chance in, because obviously it's dodgers they have the Dodgers, they have the highest payroll, highest highest talent pool, what have you.
00:08:46
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No one gave Toronto much of a chance, and they went toe-to-toe. And in in some instances, they outplayed the Dodgers in this series, if you want to look at it at the stat line. So hats off to Toronto. I know they're upset how it ended, but nothing to be ashamed of.
00:09:01
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Great performance. Nothing to be ashamed of, but that is a heartbreaker, especially when you go up and you lead eleven to four or win eleven to four in a blowout in that game one, and then all of a sudden ah you're in a back-and-forth series that goes all the way to game seven. When you come out that first game and blow them out the water, you've got to think that you've got at least the momentum on your side. Amul, what did you think about this series overall? this This was to be one of the most fun World Series.
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that I've watched since before the pandemic. I'll just put it to like that. It was fun. It was, I mean, yes, they got up. It was heartbreaking, sure.
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We almost all became Canadians. There a little known clause that if Toronto had won, we would all have to say say the Canadian National Anthem. I will bet you, you all need to learn, but you should, you know, it's, it's, it's fun to say.
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but yeah Your mic is cutting out a little bit, brother. but get hard It's like hard to hear you. I think it might be because of the space from you and the mic. Can you hear me?
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You good? That's better. Okay,
World Series Critical Plays Analysis
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cool. Okay, good. So it was fantastic. I loved it. I thought it was yeah just the back and forth. Yes. It's heartbreaking for Toronto.
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But on the flip side, we do get another Kendrick Byrne, Kendrick Byrne, towards Drake, which was, you know, as we know, we knew it for that stuff. um So I think Toronto could come back and, you know, sort of just spinning those forward and saying 26, maybe 27.
00:10:40
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seven They could probably win one. But we'll see what happens as far as if LA decides to buy it. you know but and look Yeah, it sounds a lot different than when you're usually on.
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I don't know if it's the headphones you're using or something, but it definitely... I'm using the AirPods. You want me to rejoin? I can pop back and rejoin. Maybe, yeah, or maybe try whatever you were using last time because it is cutting in and out. Because it sounds like every other word is cutting out, almost.
00:11:08
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Yeah. Okay, I'll be back. All right, cool. um But yeah, no, as he was saying, an amazing series. We'll wait for him to get back. Bobby G, shout out our brother Bobby G from the Audible podcast. He also does shows it with AP very often. And yeah, no That like guy right there, that's another guy that I i credit for a lot of a lot of help I've gotten lately, just mental health-wise. Bobby G, awesome guy.
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go Go check him out. Audible Sports Podcast also does stuff on Rec Room as well. So... Yeah, no, just like you said, Bobby G is also big into the mental health. And I want you all, if you're watching this program now, to please do, as AP said, go subscribe to the Audible podcast.
00:11:56
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Check out Bobby G and our brother, Wildcar Mar, not only yesterday, last night's episode, um which was very poignant, but also a couple weeks ago.
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ah Both of them were movie type episodes, so you're going to enjoy the entertainment. But also the mental health segments were very in-depth. The first time they had a guest on who went into his story of his friend's ah friend issue that he had.
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And then last night they talked about Marshawn Nealon as well. So please go tap in with them and check them out because they do a lot of good awareness on that. And shout out to our other brother. you want to hear him shit talk the Raiders, go watch Thursday night's weekend.
00:12:37
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Oh, yeah. Well, I didn't watch that show. That game entirely was terrible. That game whole was garbage. garbage Well, as you would know, you didn't see me to the end of the episode because I didn't want to come on and hear the bullshit, so I just popped in at the end to comment and say, what's up?
00:12:51
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I did not watch any of the show. i didn't point To be fair, Omar, the Broncos were just equally bad, too, by the way. Yeah, I know. It was one of the worst games we've ever seen. got it yeah And here's the thing. play Dallas a week from Monday, but it's not the same Dallas defense because, like, half their team's coming back off injury, and they just got Quinn and Williams, so.
00:13:12
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Have fun, Raiders. Have fun. yeah and You're completely right. i I do not expect anything other than the March for March. Although if Geno Smith throws for 300 yards against our defense, which, you know, if it's the old defense, I kind of expect it.
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If he does that, I i quit watching football. Dude, I mean, I want to keep blaming it on Geno Smith, but I just can't anymore. At the beginning of the season, he was making a lot of bad decisions, throwing too many interceptions. But last week, he had a four-touchdown, 280-yard game.
00:13:42
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And last night, against the bro or two nights ago against the Broncos, I watched him have literally less than two seconds every time they snapped the ball. He was under pressure. It was like he had no time.
00:13:55
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to get rid of the ball before the Denver defense was on his ass pause. So there was no time for him to pass. And I think we need to beef up that offensive line, this draft and i'm free agency. Don't even draft a quarterback this year. Just load up on offensive line in draft and free agency. Keep Geno for another year and then draft Arch Manning in 2027. The March for Arch is on baby. Let's go.
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All right. I knew that. Shout out to Bobby G. Shohei should have been MVP. I don't agree with that. I agree with the Yamamoto, and shout out to Wildcard Mar for mentioning that as his shout out on the show. But, yeah, no, I agree with Yamamoto, man. He pitched a complete game.
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Then he came out and won game six and then came out and won game seven, or at least, yeah, pitched the end of game seven. Closed out game seven, yeah. Yeah, closed out game seven. and So I have to disagree with you here, Bobby. Usually Shohei would be the pick, but this time I think Yamamoto proved that work, which is crazy, y'all.
00:14:52
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After coming from Japan just last year and signing a 12-year $325 million dollar deal, he was able to perfect pitch that well. So let's talk about that game six because we did talk about how Toronto was in the basically control of this series and how ah they should have been able to, at least in my eyes,
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They had many chances to close out this series, especially in game six and game seven. So first of all, we got to talk about the play on game six to close the game. That has to be one of the worst decisions of all time by a base runner.
00:15:30
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I don't care what you think your skills are, and I don't care how far you think you can lead off the base. because the fielder may not catch it.
00:15:43
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You have to be extra cautious with two outs. If it was no outs, I'd be okay with that chance. But two outs left and you're getting doubled off on second from a throw from left where he barely cut? na No, no.
00:15:57
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that You know what? I would cut you that same day. You would be cut. You wouldn't even make it to game seven. I would tell them you had an injury. We will put you on the IR for the rest of the season, and we will replace you in game seven. Amul, let's start with game six. four your thoughts before I get to you? First, are are you all receiving me? Are we good?
00:16:14
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yeah Yeah, now we're much better. um Okay. Everyone's trying to be Dave Roberts. Everyone's trying to be Dave Roberts circa 2004. You can't be Dave Roberts. That was 21 years ago.
00:16:25
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you know how much we've changed since then? you know how people – the game has changed. there's a there's a Ghostrunner on second now.
00:16:35
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So, ah during extra innings, I mean, i think that was that was, to me, the worst play, one of the worst plays in in you know and and the World Series.
00:16:49
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And I think that... That guy's going to – they're going to have to really ah decide if he's going to be – I mean, he'll be back, but I don't know. I think there's going to be some base running tutorials so ah during spring training that they're going to have to learn, especially if Toronto wants to – I'm forgetting who it was that got doubled off because it was Varsho that got the hit, right?
00:17:14
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Wasn't it March or so when they got hit? I forgot who got doubled forgetting who got doubled off. Yeah, I'm forgetting. But it's it's one of those things where if Toronto wants to win, they've got to do the little things. They they did really well.
00:17:27
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They did decently well with everything else. They need to get a starting pitcher. But – You need to base running is just it's just like when ah but Toronto hit that. ah We thought it was a home run and ended up being like ah it hit into the gap in center field, like all the way at the bottom.
00:17:46
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um L.A. knew just put their hands up. and and not touch it. So, you know, Toronto's going you know, the World Series. I mean, that's crazy too, though. i mean, come on now. It is.
00:17:59
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I need us to be old school and go back to where you actually had to physically go try to pull the ball out. Yes. Before the, um was just like, oh yeah first week here's the thing here's the thing. Here's the thing with that to Omar game.
00:18:14
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hurry Earlier this year, we saw a game earlier this year where that same scenario happened. The ball got lodged and in the in in the in between the pad and in the ground. Literally, the umpire walked out over there and said, no, you can pull it you can pull it out. Pull it out.
00:18:30
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literally an umpire did that so it wasn't meant for that it was meant for like the ivy if it gets stuck in like the ivy and you can't reach it out it was meant for like actually being wedged like the way it looked just from the certain angle it looked like it was just literally just barely lodged under there right it was it was like hanging out right on the outside of Like it just barely caught the the edge of the mat and you can pull it out. I think it should be like, unless you make an attempt to try and pull it out and it doesn't come out.
00:19:04
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If it doesn't come out, if it doesn't come out, yes, you can throw your hands up. But if you actually make an attempt to try and pull it out and it comes out, then yeah, it's not it's not a gravel double. Yeah, I'm sorry. That should not be a ground. that's a free That's a free base that they just got there just for throwing his hands up. But anyways, yeah, shout out my brother Clutch B. Appreciate you. It was Addison Barger and it was Andres Jimenez that was with the hit, not Barsho.
00:19:28
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So Andres Jimenez hit. Barger tried to go down the line halfway to third, which is a stupid maneuver with two ah two out. um He thought he was going to try to score if the ball dropped in. You just can't do that. Just cannot.
00:19:38
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um But yeah, I mean, there were many different twists and turns, especially, you know, like you mentioned within game six, we just talked about those two huge moments, but Toronto had many chances to win. Then we moved to game seven, Toronto again, many chances to win. um um Andre, not Andre, I just say Andre Jimenez, but um Andy Paz with an amazing catch in the, in the ninth inning running over Kike Hernandez, almost killing him.
00:20:09
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Just to catch it. No, it was great. Scherzer turning back the clock. Scherzer, the warrior god, 41 years old. Only pitcher ever to start a World Series game for four different teams. That is amazing.
00:20:24
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I mean, Shohei on the mound didn't perform too well, but just to see him in a Game 7 is great as well. AP, we'll start with you. Game 7. Oh, wait, we'll see. Clutch B says Game 7 base running was bad. Also, hold on, AP.
00:20:37
Speaker
Game seven base running was bad. Also on the play at home, Toronto would have scored if the guy got a secondary lead. Yep. Which baseball you're taught at age eight. Yes, you're exactly right. Actually they did.
00:20:49
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Analysts did the stats on it and his primary lead and secondary lead were in the bottom 1% of all world of all playoff runners this year. It was like 350 out of 370 in terms of from third to home in the playoffs this year. So he took the shortest. Where is that all time though?
00:21:07
Speaker
Where does that all time go as far as the World Series? No, as far as the World Series goes. I think you're used to know that. I'd love to know that. Yeah. But apparently this was Toronto has been doing this all season long. This has been their m MO to hold players on at third so they don't get thrown out or they don't and like they did get doubled off in six. To be honest, it did happen to them in game six.
00:21:28
Speaker
But I don't think on on third base you should be doing that and when you have the game winning run. I'm sorry. i mean You gotta to take a little bit of the lead. Sometimes you gotta to drink the double-double from Timmy's and run past the sign and head to home. you know You can't just sit there. Sorry, I don't mean to be running over AP's time.
00:21:44
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But you know you've gotta be able to forego the rules that you learned I need to just go, okay, this is, you know, we take a bigger lead. Yeah, take a bigger lead. right. If he, what'd you think about that? And it makes it worse. Cause it's a guy I actually like to IKF, a guy we've had in Texas for a little bit, obviously had some time with the Yankees, you know, he's in Toronto.
00:22:07
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um Right now, and again, he gets a little bit more of a lead into that. He scores instead of being called out she us just by a hair. So they say baseball's not a game of inches. they'll It was right there because because it if if they count that they count that base, that's a that's game. That's game. Toronto walks it off, and they win the World Series.
00:22:31
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And actually, I want to I have the stats here because I did them on my show the other day. So let me just give them to you anyways. ah In the bottom ninth inning, this was dar this is where I got Varsho from, by the way. It was Dalton Varsho's grounder.
00:22:46
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ah What happens is, as AP mentioned, Isaiah Kiner-Falefa did not take a big lead. So here you go. His primary lead was 7.8 feet. which ranked 357th out of 381 in terms lead distancing in the entire World Series. So all runners within this World Series.
00:23:09
Speaker
His secondary lead, 8.9 feet. So he only took a secondary lead of 1.1 foot. that ranked 366th. and that ranked three hundred and sixty six out of 381 so even worse yeah now get this his sprint speed was 28.2 feet per second which is tremendously fat the which is by the way ranked 61 61st out of those you know whatever lead stringent eighty leads
00:23:44
Speaker
Analysts noted if he would have took one extra foot of primary or secondary lead, he easily scores the run. Yeah. That's crazy.
00:23:55
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That's crazy. And and it's it's it's that game of like, you know, the little minutiae where if you take an extra inch, you take an extra two inches, um and that would have been better.
00:24:08
Speaker
But, you know, Toronto played what cards they had, and it just – for whatever reason, they couldn't get it done. Now, props to LA for buying another championship, I guess.
00:24:21
Speaker
but Ah, you're still mad about it, huh? Did I put that the video? That's in the short. Go check out Amul saying the Dodgers going to ruin baseball. I mean, yeah, go right ahead. ah They're Egypt. Egypt won. Egypt best Greece. If you guys listen to my last when you'll listen to my last appearance who you'll get the analogy.
00:24:39
Speaker
um but You know, as far as next year goes or as far as the World Series goes, this held my attention like all the way through.
00:24:50
Speaker
and was almost like with when Toronto blew out LA, it was like, okay, you have everyone's attention. Now let's see what you're going to do with it. And Toronto didn't disappoint. it They came up short in the end.
00:25:02
Speaker
And that does happen sometimes. and for sure thought they were going win in game six. I was like, all right, let's see if they can get just get it done and, you know, i'm Sorry about that. My internet flipped out for some reason. I don't know why.
00:25:16
Speaker
ah You're all good. um and But, you know, it went to a game seven and L.A. took advantage of it. So, um, Shane P what up my brother y'all check us out on Sunday showdown.
00:25:28
Speaker
Shane peaches with dirty mojo club or D and myself talking football. So you check us out tomorrow night, but he says, I think the worst thing that happened in game seven, Bichette being in the bases hurt early. They missed out on a run because of it. He should have scored. I agree with you. I remember the exact player you're talking about. They would have been up too late.
00:25:44
Speaker
I get it though. He ends up hitting the big free run home run. but him not being able to run screwed them out of a huge run. I agree. Brandon then says they may go buy Kyle Tucker, so I'm sure they'll be there again. And I hate it being a Giants fan. Well, the Dodgers are not going to stop spending money unless they're ah prevented from doing so. And in baseball, there is only a a little bit of restrictions on how much you can spend. And that just recently started. so did um did you cut Did you cover real quick? Did you cover like what Shohei was being paid this year?
00:26:16
Speaker
He was only paid $2 million. dollars Right. my contract I get there deferring his money. Yeah. Cause he's making 7 million in endorsements every year. So I get there deferring his money, but what mean that all that means is he's going to make the money later, but what does that mean that they got a bunch of billionaires running that thing? Magic Johnson could do that by himself.
00:26:34
Speaker
I mean, he had another Bobby Bonilla situation of AIDS. I mean, I don't know why you think he's not going to be able to afford every player on on earth. No, it's just in too many deferrals. I feel like Bobby Bonilla situations now.
00:26:48
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I wonder how many deferrals will occur before MLB goes, wait, you have like 25. At some point, they're going to have to stop that because it's just going to get out of hand in terms of their own financial transaction reporting in terms of like team reporting because then you can finagle everything and start cheating the system. And we definitely don't need that happening.
00:27:10
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And then the Dodgers will buy Karna. um Hey, salute my brother, Skywalker. Boxing Media. Y'all check in with Skywalker Boxeo on Facebook, Skywalker Boxing Media on YouTube. He connects with every boxer in the world, so y'all check him out.
00:27:26
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ah We're going have a boxing show here in a couple weeks on the 19th, Wednesday at 8 p.m., so y'all check us out. Shout out. All right, AP, did you give your thoughts on Game 7? I think you did. yeah Yeah, I mean, I touched on it. It was it was a good good little back and forth.
00:27:40
Speaker
um Again, so many opportunities for the Blue Jays to win that game. And the minute you brought out Yamamoto in the ninth inning, I was like, yep, that's a wrap. That's a wrap. He's been doing this all postseason.
00:27:54
Speaker
Any start he's had in the postseason, any any matchup he's had in the postseason, it's it's just been complete dominance, which is why he's the series MVP.
00:28:05
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Yep. No, you're completely right. And I do agree with that as well. So, okay, cool. Did you, did you give your thoughts on game
Ranking the World Series
00:28:13
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seven? I got a little bit. I did. I did. I did. I did give my thoughts on game seven. I do think I agree with Yamato being the, being the MVP, but also I think it was a really bad play. And I know we're going to about this more in free agency, but for Bichette to say, well, I'm going to leave Toronto right beforehand.
00:28:32
Speaker
And then, Like all of that playing out where like he didn't get the hit, then he got a three run home run, then he got hurt. Like, I understand you're you're betting on yourself, but maybe announce it afterwards.
00:28:44
Speaker
Like, I realize why you did that because you were giving up teams false oath, but that's okay. We're under the bridge. But um yeah, I give my game seven. That's already super good. Yeah, yeah. And so just to, I want to show everybody what this kind of looked like when you're looking at this play we're talking about at home. So let me share my screen real quick so I can show you this.
00:29:06
Speaker
Here we go. Boom. So look at this. This is how close we're talking, y'all. Look at that. That is how close that play was at home. I mean, we are talking in eighth of a second at the most.
00:29:21
Speaker
And again, so that's where that – primary secondary lead we were talking about. That's where that comes in. ah Because as fast as he was running, as we said, i mean, look at that.
00:29:31
Speaker
Just a extra couple inches even, as AP said. A game of, that's just crazy. I had to i had to show this because I'm just so amazed by this photo. um But anyway, so yeah. It's a great photo. Yeah.
00:29:43
Speaker
Great photo. So that was game seven. ah Turned out, like we said, to be one of the best World Series of all time. Appreciate you. Do look forward to it, my brother, as well. um One of the greatest. So let's go ahead and rank them.
00:29:57
Speaker
Where do we think this World Series ranks of all time? know that this is one of the greatest game sevens of all time. Now, AP, you already had you done your rankings on your show the other day. So please, ah you go ahead first and give us where you think this ranks.
00:30:11
Speaker
to me To me, it's top three, top four, um because oh in that general, especially out of the last 20 to 30 years, it's top three, top four, um because it did go to game seven. There was a lot of drama. You had a lot of back and forth things going on but between there.
00:30:30
Speaker
ah to To me, it's i would I would place it third, only behind 2001 between the yanke Yankees and Diamondbacks, that upset.
00:30:42
Speaker
And then, of course, the the classic, that was Cubs-Guardians at number one for me. so ae And because because all seven games were great, I also put this just above Cardinals-Rangers in 2011.
00:30:56
Speaker
Also because I'm a Ranger fan and I hate that series with a burning passion. Fuck the Cardinals. side I wanted to see where you were going to rank it. And now I'm going to give Ken Rosenthal's ranking, MLB.com writer and insider.
00:31:10
Speaker
Cause wanted to hear where where AP had first, which are very good rankings compared to what Ken Rosenthal has. And we will forgive AP. He is younger than Amul and I. So we will forgive him for probably not even being alive for the 1991 series between the ah Kirby Puckett-led Minnesota Twins and the Atlanta Braves.
00:31:32
Speaker
Yeah, I wasn't even a thought back then. so Okay, wow. I didn't even know you were that young. jesus ninety three 93. 93. Wow. The minute Joe Carter walked it off, was...
00:31:44
Speaker
That makes me feel real. Okay. All right. We'll keep it moving. We should move on. no We should move on so fast. I can't be inviting these young kids on the show anymore. Ken Rosenthal ranks the Minnesota Twins. Go back and watch it on YouTube, please. It was a great series. a Minnesota tweets over the Atlanta Braves in 1991. Jack Morris and John Smoltz classic 1-0 duel in Game 7, 10 scoreless innings. It was awesome. Anyways, number two in Ken Rosenthal's ranking is the number two Arizona Diamondbacks, New York Yankees 2001 series that AP talked about.
00:32:22
Speaker
He ranks this one as number three. And then he has the one that you mentioned as number two, the Cubs and Indians as number four. That one also went to a game seven and included three one run games.
00:32:36
Speaker
And then he includes 2011, the series that you hate with your Rangers as number five. um I completely agree with these rankings here. I do understand yours, AP, but again, you haven't seen as much baseball. And I would even go back further.
00:32:52
Speaker
There's been greater, I think, World Series, if you go back even further than that, before the parts of the fact that no one over probably 55 or 45 is watching this right now. um They're probably not going to relate to any 70s or 60s World Series. so I only put the Cubs Guardians at number one because you've got two teams who are in historical droughts.
00:33:12
Speaker
um Both teams are looking know for the Cubs 108 years, Guardians 61 years, um looking to get that monkey off their back. It goes to game seven. and You have the rain delay. You have all the theatrics in Cleveland of what's going on, the game-tying home run from Rajay Davis, and then, of course, David Ross in the 10th to get them. our ah Well, I don't think it was Ross. I think it was – I can't even remember half the players on that team, but – ah The RBI in the tent and then the the books put out at the end in the bottom of the tent to win it there, which is probably one of the more iconic moments in modern baseball history was the ground out to Bryant, the put out to Anthony Rizzo.
00:33:58
Speaker
No, definitely an amazing series. But I definitely, in my eyes, would rank Arizona and New York over that and only because – ah Not because necessarily of the game play, because the games were closer in the Cubs Indians, although the Diamondbacks Yankees did also go seven games. We remember Luis Gonzalez getting the walk-off hit off of Mo, big Mo Mariano Rivera.
00:34:20
Speaker
But um it was also because 9-11 had just happened and New York was in the World Series. So it was kind of like a unifying moment for the country as well. So that's kind of why I rank it a little higher as well.
00:34:32
Speaker
Yeah. Kind of sentimental to me, especially because I was in the military at the time after nine eleven at that same time. The only two guys to really get into Mariona Rivera's psyche, Luis Gonzalez and Dave Roberts.
00:34:45
Speaker
Ooh, I like it. There you go. um By the way, gentlemen. I think it was sentimental to all, the 2001 World Series, real quick. I think it was sentimental to all because for those of a certain age, sorry, um but ah you know we remember being in college And sort of a knowing, like, like just watching it with tears.
00:35:06
Speaker
Like we all have a very degree tears that are in our in our eyes. So um proof, I guess, that guys can cry too. If you that's more of a men's mental health thing, we can talk about that in a hot second. we can get back to that, Brad.
00:35:21
Speaker
ah But sorry, I didn't mean to run over you, Omar. No, you're good. nothing aint You're perfectly fine. How are you talking? Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, nothing wrong with shedding a tear either. If you need to cry, get a good cry. No. um The last World Series or this World Series viewership figures, historically big, y'all.
00:35:37
Speaker
Fox said that it averaged 27.3 million viewers for the Dramatic 11 Game 7, and that's just in the United States.
00:35:48
Speaker
ah That is, the figure represents the most watched World Series Game 7 since the Cubs-Guardians, and The final ah ah figures say that they averaged 15.7 million over the entire seven-game series. And again, as we were talking about off the air and we're going to talk about right now, this is huge.
00:36:13
Speaker
The viewership was huge for the World Series, as AP mentioned backstage, and I'm sure he'll touch on it in just a second. All the rule changes, the Robert Manford game, speeding the game up, all these things has helped as well to inspire this popularity. Obviously, the foreign-born players helped. The more younger, dramatic flair-type bringing to the game players has helped.
00:36:35
Speaker
So this is a two-part question. A, How do you feel about the way that, yeah as the kids would say, MLB has had their glow up in the past couple of years since these rule changes were installed?
MLB Growth and Challenges
00:36:49
Speaker
And how does that lead into where we were going next year, where right now, The MLB only has one year left on their labor CBA agreement.
00:37:01
Speaker
And there is a possibility of a lockout. Now, AP, you have insider information from MLB headquarters. Please tell us what you've heard. Well, not necessarily from MLB headquarters. Will you just be quiet and let me make up stuff that makes us sound smarter? God bless. Why do people always want to do that? no I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
00:37:23
Speaker
I like the truth, though, man. Come on now. Anyway, um but yeah, I've heard from several people. I've seen several people talk about say that, yeah, we're inevitably headed for a lockout. they're they're The two sides are not on the same page right at the moment. They're probably about its further far the way as you could possibly be, and it sucks because of what we've seen with baseball. The thing is, though,
00:37:47
Speaker
ah it's a little bit of hit and a little bit of miss too, because you look at what, you know, the but what my Rob Manford's done to help catch game up, get, draw a little bit more interest. Obviously the Dodgers being as popular as they are, the Yankees being as popular as they are having those two teams and in the, in the playoffs definitely helps.
00:38:07
Speaker
But at the same time, you have no no TV deal at all. Literally no TV deal. All these all these teams are basically doing their own streaming services, streaming their games.
00:38:19
Speaker
um You just lost the contract with ESPN, which honestly, that's kind of a good thing, honestly, because ESPN does not give a damn.
00:38:29
Speaker
They didn't give a damn. They don't give damn about baseball. They didn't care about baseball. they They don't give a damn about anything other than the NFL. And maybe the Lakers. That's it. and that The Lakers and the Knicks.
00:38:41
Speaker
That's all they care about. Maybe the Lakers. We've had the Lakers on like four times like in the last two weeks. and like Until we get rid of LeBron. Clearly, and I'm sure you guys can agree with this, ESPN is a shell of its former self.
00:38:54
Speaker
They are a shell of its former self. that It's a little bit watered down. as it is and and Rob Manford was like, I see where this is going. We're getting out of this deal.
00:39:05
Speaker
We're not going back to ESPN. We're going to try see if we can get somewhere else. To me, I think the best thing you could do for this is get yourself a bonafide MLB streaming service.
00:39:19
Speaker
Have it available for all 30 teams. Stream all 162 games. you can You can watch every game. Or you could just follow your favorite team and watch all 162 of that.
00:39:34
Speaker
i think that would be the simplest choice to do. If if I'm Rob Minford, I think it would be the simplest thing to do. But it's all going to come down, like you said, Omar, it's going to all come down the collective bargaining agreement.
00:39:48
Speaker
That comes up in a year. They're nowhere near agreeing on anything because the players don't want a salary cap. The owners think it's a necessity at this point because of all the deferred money. 90% of the managers of the owners don't like the deferred money. The only ones that do are the teams that have the money like the Dodgers. Not even the Yankees like it, which is what surprised me a little bit. Not even the Yankees like the deferred money.
00:40:18
Speaker
you know and essentially it's just the Dodgers and maybe the Mets that are better on board with that. so adam Other than that, yeah, so that would be the only – but there's literally – you've got leverage for one side, leverage for the other and in some ways, but at the end of the day, nobody's going to get what they want, and that's going to – that means that we're inevitably headed to a lockout.
00:40:44
Speaker
Yeah. And so I just have one question about the streaming service. What would be the difference from the MLB package that they have now on MLB.com? It wouldn't be so spread out because i couldn't have games you have games on Apple TV. You have games on Peacock. You have games on FS1 and Fox Sports.
00:41:03
Speaker
literally because i get Because I get the league pass like I do at NBA as well. so I would say let's say literally just have it to where you can literally watch all 162 games.
00:41:15
Speaker
No out-of-market BS. Yeah, that would be good. You could literally follow whatever team you're cheering for. whatever If you want to watch the Dodgers, cool.
00:41:27
Speaker
You can watch 162 of the Dodgers. You can watch your team. You can do whatever you want. yeah know Yeah, those blackouts suck. I know that whenever I'm dealing with that. But um yeah, so the end I have to disagree just a tiny bit with the yeah with the ESPN thing. Yes, ESPN did not value and MLB as much as and MLB should have been valued.
00:41:52
Speaker
That being said... I don't necessarily agree with the ESPN going stale thing. I think honestly, since they've been bought by Disney, now they've acquired Now they've acquired, or they have some still UFC rights. I think actually they're expanding a lot. That's a whole other problem. That's a whole other problem. Whether you agree with it or not, it what it is. And I am somebody, I'm also biased. I am very, very loyal to ESPN. I already had ESPN Plus before.
00:42:20
Speaker
I just upgraded my package before the NFL season so I could get NFL Red Zone and ESPN Unlimited. So yeah, I'm paying whatever it is, $40 month. for ESPN, Disney and Hulu, but an NFL. So I get all four for $10 a month for each. So I'm not, I'm not really too concerned with it. It's not that much because I can watch everything I need to watch with those, you know, four services. So again, i guess it depends on where you're looking at, but it's still not having media rights. Not having a TV deal is never a good thing. Amul, what do you think about this?
00:42:48
Speaker
So I disagree with you, and I'm sure you're not surprised. but like, you know, the only viable portion or the thing about ESPN these days is, what, SVP?
00:43:01
Speaker
And now they brought the inside guys along, and they're they're pledged to not mess with that. That's the only – those are the only two things. That's it. That's the only two things. Everything – I was watching SportsCenter earlier today, and some guy – decided to say, chat, we're cooked.
00:43:17
Speaker
And I was like, we're cooked? Really? or ah Why are we cooked? Like, I know what i know what he means. But like, you know, you're trying to appeal to the younger demographic and it's just not working. They're going to make fun of you.
00:43:31
Speaker
um And I don't know, I would prefer it if they ah had a more robust and MLB ah like app. I've watched Apple TV. I love that you can tune into the radio broadcast, the local radio broadcast if you want to.
00:43:48
Speaker
And that syncs up with the ah with what you're watching. So if they can port that into ah ah MLB, it's not that hard. It's just basic coding.
00:43:59
Speaker
I've done it. Everyone else who's a developer in the past has done it. um And you know I think that would be beneficial technology to bring over. Otherwise, do a partnership with Apple, just like are ah just like Apple's doing a partnership with Google to get you know there ah to get a more robust version of Siri.
00:44:19
Speaker
um That's what I would do. ah That's how I would sort of fix things. But to your point, I do think, i i we were talking beforehand, and I made this comment about how, you know,
00:44:33
Speaker
and the mlb can learn a lot from the world of finance we've had um without going into too much detail we've had like three four five months of really great growth i'm pretty sure it's been more like you know longer than that but we'll just take that short sample size so and no matter what happens whether it's interest rate cuts or uh things you know shift just overall societally the market just keeps going yeah sure there's blips But it ends up, you know, you're gaining more money. So if if the and MLB can look at that and go, okay, well, we've got this flip here where we can see it coming.
00:45:14
Speaker
It's a big iceberg in 26. It's a bigger iceberg in 27. How can we mitigate that ahead of time? let's start doing this, this, and this, you know, whatever that may be.
00:45:24
Speaker
um That would be really beneficial to them. Manfred would be, you know, as opposed to being one of the worst, he might be one of the best if he actually, you know, does is proactive rather than reactive.
00:45:37
Speaker
Well, ah proactive or reactive, you're never going to agree with you on that. Rob Manfred is one of the worst sports owners, I mean, sports commissioners of all time. No, I agree with you. i agree with you on that. I do. I'm just saying if he wants to change his reputation.
00:45:53
Speaker
I will say that as AP said backstage, you know, these changes that he made have made the game more aesthetically pleasing to the general audience. yeah So that does help baseball. So I can't, I got to give him a win there. Just like I was going to make a joke on, on when you said fight the the the finances and everything and going up, i was going to make a joke about Donald Trump. I mean, i mean what what's Rob Manford going to be known for the pitch clock, the new, the new baseball rules. And Oh, by the way, here's Pete Rose. You can have him back.
00:46:24
Speaker
yeah There you go. That's the big one. You know what I would love to see is Jerome Powell is stepping down as Fed Chair. Why not toss him into the negotiates negotiations for the lockout, for the MLB lockout? Why not? He's free.
00:46:37
Speaker
He's free. Not something they haven't done before. They let – what's her name? The one that was on um Donald Trump's first staff. They let her in the in the college football voting.
00:46:50
Speaker
with whoa sure Well, Jerome Powell has been around since, I think, the Obama administration. forget what her name was. Yeah, Jerome Powell has been around for a while. So... I'm forgetting that. Anyways, all right, cool. All right, well, let's move it on. We'll see what happens there. But as we mentioned, like there is going to be that chance of a lockout. And in my eyes, as AP said, they nowhere close in my eyes, they cannot even let that happen.
00:47:14
Speaker
AP said they're going to start negotiating. When the season begins, they have to get a deal. If you were old enough, and I know AP was not, but if we, me and Amul are to remember the 1994 strike,
00:47:29
Speaker
ah which caused the Montreal Expos from winning the World Series, we should also say. um Yes. when um When Montreal had a team. But now the Washington Nationals, for all you young fans out there. The strike, as we remember, completely decimated baseball.
00:47:44
Speaker
And it gets years years for baseball to come back into favor. And the only reason it did was because of Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire's home run race, which then dragged MLB back down because of the whole steroid era. Uh,
00:48:02
Speaker
issues Which, great segue, Omar, you are amazing at this whole hosting thing, brings me into my next segment about the contemporary era Hall of Fame ballot.
Hall of Fame Debate
00:48:13
Speaker
Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens are on it. And this is not the regular Hall of Fame. This is the contemporary. So this is a, once you get out of that, once you don't get voted in that 10 year span that you have a chance in the regular hall of fame, you move to the contemporary ballot. If you get voted in there, which is a little more lenient, ah which is possible you do. If not, you wait a little bit longer and you go into what's called the veterans ballot, which is when you're really old and you get a last third chance to get into the hall of fame. That being said, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, we know we're a part of that steroid era.
00:48:48
Speaker
Two of the biggest names. ah By the way, another note I saw, Victor Conti, ah he just died the other day. So the guy that owned Bauco in the whole steroid scandal passed away the other day. So rest in peace to him.
00:49:02
Speaker
um But anyways, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens involved in this whole steroid thing. are What do we think about this contemporary era ballot? Because again, it is a little more lenient.
00:49:13
Speaker
Will they get in? Then you have other people like Carlos Delgado, Jeff Kent, Don Mattingly, Dale Murphy, Gary Sheffield, Fernando Venezuela also on the ballot. Amul, we'll start with you on this one. What do you think about this? And do you think Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens will get in?
00:49:29
Speaker
Okay. Yeah, let him in. Just at this point, like, it's happened, you know, ah I'm not, I understand the reason to not let him in. I understand, okay it's probably, you know, we we can't let him in because Pete Rose isn't in yet.
00:49:43
Speaker
Okay, I get that. I respect that. Put that on a shelf. Let it be. Just let him in because Clemens was great, you know, when he was around. He was a great sock, and then later on,
00:49:57
Speaker
unfortunately became a great Yankee, you know, and Barry Bonds smashed, you know, the he's, I think he's still the the leader of the all time home run record, but you know, the fact that he, the fact that they've been waiting for this long, I think is inconscionable because you need to be able to, ah you need to be able to properly like, you know, let these,
00:50:22
Speaker
like these folks in and then let Sam and Sosa in as well. Sosa, McGuire, when they're, when they become eligible, if they're not already. um and And so what do you say to the fact that steroids, you know, and baseball, it's a lot different because you need hand eye color coordination, but it still helps with speed and power.
00:50:40
Speaker
So what do you say to the people that said it was still cheating and still an advantage? I mean, didn't it, didn't we talk about it saving baseball though? the whole home run The whole home run battle saved baseball and was a critical part of the them turning things around.
00:50:58
Speaker
probably we want to look at is ah as a black guy because they did steroids. And you saw some of the best pitching matchups ever with guys like Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, and like the the the golden 90s and 2000s era of baseball, which a lot of people really, really, really still to this day go back and talk about. so I mean, I agree. At this point, just let them in because, you know, they deserve it. they're they're They're some of the best in the game. They should be recognized as such.
00:51:32
Speaker
Yes, do you want to put an asterisk in there? Sure, why not? We'll just say, yeah, they got caught doing this. Tell the whole story. Tell the whole story, but be like, hey, this is why we're putting them in the Hall of Fame because they did this and they did this to contribute to the game of baseball.
00:51:51
Speaker
yeah but in In my opinion, the contributions outweigh the detriments in this scenario. And I think I agree with that. I agree with that. And I didn't used to. As a baseball purist, I used to be the one old man shouting at the lawn, like hey, no, they shouldn't be in.
00:52:06
Speaker
They were using steroids. The people that they were playing against, a lot of them weren't. So they did have an advantage. So if you're a pitcher and you're Roger Clemens and you're throwing the ball harder and faster than most players can hit, especially if they're not using the same...
00:52:19
Speaker
steroids, well, you know, that could be an issue. If you're Barry Bonds, who's, you know, blasting ah home runs 500 feet out of Giants Park, when we know that usually that's not possible for any other batters, aside from Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa, then, you know, there there really is an advantage there. So ah for a long time, I was on the case that they shouldn't be, even though, and I know this to be the case,
00:52:41
Speaker
Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, especially, were already Hall of Famers before they started started taking steroids. Barry Bonds was Hall of Famer in Pittsburgh before he even started taking steroids. Roger Clemens was a Hall of Famer in Boston before he even started taking steroids. So they were both legitimate Hall of Famers.
00:52:57
Speaker
But they still took something that gave them to the advantage. That being said, I have now been i have now moved over the years closer to both of you all, as in You know, there were a lot of contributions.
00:53:09
Speaker
ah You can just put an asterisk. It is about great players. So if they are good enough statistically to be in, maybe they should be in with the asterisks, as AP said. I also look at, and this is probably what kind of put me over the edge lately,
00:53:24
Speaker
is Someone once mentioned, well, Bud Selig, who was the commissioner at the time, um ah over overlooked steroids and let steroids occur and let the steroid era happen without ever doing anything about it, even though he knew about it.
00:53:41
Speaker
And he's in the Hall of Fame. So if he's in the Hall of Fame, then why shouldn't he these other people be in the Hall Fame. So that was kind of what tipped my boat. I was moving over to the side anyway. So like I agree now that they should be letting with them. And look at how many of these teams have openly welcomed these players back. I mean, we've seen that's true mcguire we've seen Mark McGuire be a hitting coach in the league. We've seen two of the Cardinals to put him in the ring of honor. And Sammy Sosa, like this season, got welcomed back to Chicago, got put in the ring of honor as well.
00:54:13
Speaker
um you know Roger Clemens has been around to to all his former teams and has thrown out opening pitches and stuff like that. they they they still embraced The fans still embrace these guys.
00:54:26
Speaker
They still embrace these guys like like they were you know still some of the best players. you know Barry Bonds, too. Barry Bonds, too. He still gets it all the love and respect from not just the Giants, but as you mentioned, Omar from the Pirates as well.
00:54:41
Speaker
So... Yeah, definitely beloved by their former teams, as you mentioned, a lot of them already being let back in the league as well to even, you know, coach like Mark McGuire. So, again, if you're going let them in the league to coach, there's no reason that you should be keeping them out. Just put them in a different – I mean, if you feel that about it – You can stare it at a ring. Yeah, make a win. Make a whole win the stare. Yeah, make win.
00:55:03
Speaker
And let Jose Canseco win. Jose Canseco, the godfather of steroids. He also has the stats to be in, and he would have got to 500 home runs if he didn't get blackballed.
00:55:15
Speaker
First 40-40 player, rookie of the year, and MVP in the same year. Jose Canseco, godfather of steroids, my favorite baseball player ever. Palmeiro, Rafael Palmeiro.
00:55:27
Speaker
Rocco Palmeiro, even though he lied to the Supreme Court and told him he didn't take it, and then two days later we found out he was on the park. Look at the modern-day steroid user. Look how many Yankee fans still embrace an A-Rod.
00:55:40
Speaker
Yeah, you're he Hall favorable he was one of Famer before he got caught, or before he started taking it. Yeah. All right, cool. Let's move it on. Last segment before we get out of here for the day. ah We're going to talk a little bit of free agency, little off-season news. So we'll be back with you until about February or March. We're going take the off-season off from Baseball Talk.
00:56:04
Speaker
But um you'll see both of these gentlemen on the airwaves with us still for other shows. But We do want to touch on a little bit of free agency coming up. First, before we do that, what do you all think about all these young coaches being hired?
00:56:17
Speaker
It's a whole spur of coaches. So get this, in the past just little bit of time, Tony Vitello was hired by the San Francisco Giants. Blake Matera by the Washington Nationals. Both of them were college coaches just recently.
00:56:31
Speaker
Kurt Suzuki just retired from baseball a few years ago by the Los Angeles and Angels. Craig Stamon for the San Diego Padres. Stamon. Stamming, excuse me, so i'm similar scenario there. Some other recent hires, not so young, but other recent hires.
00:56:47
Speaker
Texas AP, y'all hired Skip Shoemaker. Atlanta's Walt Weiss. um Minnesota hires Derek Shelton. Baltimore hires Craig Albernaz. Who the deuce is Craig Albernaz? I have no fucking clue.
00:57:01
Speaker
but what do we the the i think he's the hitting coordinator in Cleveland last year. okay Yeah, he was the hitting coordinator Cleveland. what we think all these young coaches, these inexperienced possibly coaches being hired? What do we think about it, especially the young coaches?
00:57:15
Speaker
What do we think, Kamal? It's a new era. It needs to happen. like ay There are a lot of teams that are moving towards more analytics-based coaching, and and it's helpful when you've got these coaches that can actually speak the lingo, know what analytics to use in what area. I've been privately championing, and know if Mace was on, he'd probably be like, no, no, Cora should stay on.
00:57:39
Speaker
But I've been kind of hoping Veritech takes over for Cora. Oh! You know, if if Cora decides to leave, because screw him. But, you know, um...
00:57:51
Speaker
Just from that standpoint of hiring young coaches, it's it's going to be beneficial. It's worked for other teams. ah You've seen other teams do it. And, ah you know, hopefully it works out all in the end, ah honestly, because you sort of need that sort of, you need that next generation to have their they come up, as it were, or as the kids say, the glow up, ah you know, as you need them to to arrive, as it were.
00:58:18
Speaker
yeah And maybe that's what I think. Yeah. and And not all these guys are just analytic guys too. Some of these guys are actual baseball guys. Kurt Suzuki's a baseball guy. Skip Schumacher's a baseball guy. you know The guy that the the Giants has hired, baseball guy, won multiple World Series in Tennessee.
00:58:36
Speaker
um you know These guys know what they're doing. These guys are not – this is the trend we're seeing. You're seeing guys that are not only in tune to the analytics, but they're baseball guys. So they're going to make the – you're going to get the best of both sides coming yet coming in to to some of these clubhouses. You're going to get the best of analytics. You're going to get the best of baseball.
00:58:59
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bring that together should be good. I say should be, but yeah you never know. yeah As always, I'm a little yin and yang on this issue as well. I do believe that, as Amul said, you do need to bring in fresh blood, just like we've talked about and when we talk our politics and how Congress and Senate and House needs to you know, get people out to term limits and all that. I do agree that you need to infuse new blood, get new ideas. Maybe it is good to go into the college world and get these winning coaches. Again, we won't find out like AP said till we see how they perform at least in the you know first couple of years. But I'm still old school and I still believe that the
00:59:36
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best managers, especially in baseball and basketball too, um are the older ones. The ones that have the Greg Popovich's, the Terry Francona's, the managers, the Buck Show Walters, the people that have been around a long, long time that can install that wisdom. I find those coaches to be the best, but I'm not upset at this.
00:59:54
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Hopefully it will be a change for the better as we've seen a bunch of the changes in recent years be so. So I will let, like the guy said, we'll see what happens here and we'll update you. Let you know how they're performing. nickes Could I ask why?
01:00:07
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Could I ask why? Why you lean towards the older? and Well, especially in baseball and basketball. Right. um I believe that the experience that you have from actually being a coach in the major league system, because in football, it's a lot
Coaching Trends and Free Agency Speculation
01:00:26
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different, right? there's so many um There's so many players on each team, 90 players on each team. You got all these.
01:00:31
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So it's a lot different in the NFL. Right. But within baseball and hockey too, you see hockey just rehires, you know, experienced coaches because in these smaller leagues with smaller groups of players, you can have more intimate coaching experiences where you can actually have more one-on-one time with your individual players. And I feel like a Greg Popovich or someone like that, like a Terry Francona, a Buck Showalter would be able to and I saw it with Buckshot wall with the Mets install a lot of good wisdom, not just young yeah players.
01:01:06
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Yeah. Not just the young players, but veterans as well. We'll listen to them. um Are these players going to listen to players that are younger than them? Now we've seen so far in San Antonio, as I know AP can attest, the replacement for Greg Popovich has been doing an amazing job so far. And he's a really young guy. I'm blanking on his name right now, but he's a really young guy. But yeah,
01:01:27
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ah we don't know if it's going to work in baseball. So we just got to see. um Who is your coach's name? i was I was asking because i'm I'm trying to find his name too. um I was asking because i'm I agree with you somewhat, but I also think that coaching trees are better because there's so few like older coaches now that are willing to coach that you have to rely on Mitch Johnson.
01:01:52
Speaker
I think it's the the the guy that's popping up okay as the San Antonio. So, um but ah there's, I'm a fan of the coaching trees. So if you can get someone from like ah the Popovich coaching tree or the Steve Kerr coaching tree, as it were, um then, you know, you're all the more better because then you're, you know, it's sort of, it works out a little bit.
01:02:14
Speaker
And I don't know if Bob, I don't know if Showalter has a coaching tree or not, but it'd be cool to see. don't know. Is he, is he returning to the Mets next year? Or is he returning next year?
01:02:26
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we go okay i don know I don't know who he's with now. we got um we got the We got, what's his name? Fuck, I forget his name. Doesn't matter. He did all right. Anyways, okay, let's move it on.
01:02:37
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Free agency. Man, it's not ah it's not a great free agency class this year, y'all, but um there have been some players that have opted out, ah including, and I believe he just resigned with y'all. a mola you can Let me know if I'm right or wrong.
01:02:54
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um But Alex Bregman opted out, right? From the red top? Bregman opted out and has not re-signed. Story did not opt out and said, hey, I want to come back for two more years.
01:03:08
Speaker
So ah that's what happened is is we got Story back and we got Jaron Duran back. He renegotiated his contract and signed a one-year tender with us. $7.7 million dollars for arbitration. $7.7 million, yeah.
01:03:22
Speaker
i I think eventually I would like to see us get Bregman back, but I also think that Murakami is somebody that we can sign. I'm a huge fan of his. I know he has a lot of swing and misses, but that's just patience, you know.
01:03:38
Speaker
um And then let's pick up another pitcher or two. ah to to help buttress the you know the starting lineup that we have. Because I don't know if we can rely on you know who we had, the back half of the... I mean, we can, but we can rely on the Peyton Tolles and the Earlies, the Connelly Earlies, but ah maybe give him another year of seasoning.
01:04:00
Speaker
I would also trade Marcel Amare, to be honest, um if we could. Okay, not a um not a Red Sox show. I know. need you to stop going on about the Red Sox. This is an MLB show, sir. Munitaka Murakami. You're good. I'm just messing you. Munitaka Murakami um is the Japanese player he is talking about. the he's ah He's a first baseman right now, but he'll probably end up at DH long term.
01:04:25
Speaker
But he is projected. He was posted. I got Schwarberg going to the Mets.
01:04:31
Speaker
Oh, okay. This is what I was going to ask you and AP because also opting out from my Mets, Pete Alonzo, Edwin Diaz, opting out from the Yankees, Cody Bellinger. My personal pick would be to just sign Alonzo and Diaz back and say, forget Schwarber. But Schwarber is also a free agency. I'd rather have Alonzo. But Schwarber is there and he is available as well. You also got ah some other players, Bo Bichette, previously aforementioned, Frambois Valdez. Yes.
01:05:01
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pitcher. um We talked about Cody Bellinger, Dylan Seas, another pitcher, Ranger Suarez, another pitcher. So AP, talk to us. What are you thinking about free agency?
01:05:14
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It's so weird, this free agency, though, because you know people are going to be looking ahead and they're going to see, oh, we're going into a lockout. do we know we're not gonna we're not this is gonna be you you're not gonna see you're not gonna see big money deals get done this offseason unfortunately it's gonna take till maybe spring training to see some of these deals get done especially when you've got agents that put things off till the last second you know the particular that always comes to mind but uh
01:05:52
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there There would be some interesting moves. There's a lot of talk of Pete Alonso going to Texas because we definitely need a first baseman. um i've all Unfortunately, Omar, I've also heard. You stay off the phone with DeGrom. You stay off the phone with DeGrom. I've also heard maybe Pete Alonso to Atlanta.
01:06:12
Speaker
God bless. Don't you ever oh let those words come out of your mouth again. okay I'd rather him go to the Cubs. mean And there's also talks that we might actually be moving on from Marcus Simeon.
01:06:25
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So that might be another piece that gets moved. So it's it'll be an interesting offseason for sure. If I had to make one prediction right now.
01:06:36
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Please do. That's crazy. I would say go on to Boston. Okay. yeah i think Yeah. I think they're going to move they're gonna want to move off their first baseman and I think that putting a Pete Alonzo would definitely help that offense, for sure.
01:06:53
Speaker
yeah We'll take Edwin Diaz off the Mets' hands as well, actually. Keep your grubby Boston Red Sox hands off of my players, okay? First of all, person that – Go ahead. I think Philly's going to get nothing.
01:07:09
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oh that i think philley's gonna get nothing I think the Phillies are going to get nobody because looking at the class, I think Tucker, sorry, Tucker could go back to, uh, Houston or he could sign with the Rangers. Maybe,
01:07:25
Speaker
um Bellinger is going to return to New York. ah I would love to see us clean up the Sox, and I'd love to see the Nats maybe get a ah free agent or two and actually spend. I think at the crux of this is we want teams to actually spend money and realize it's going to be short you know short-term deals, but like spend the the the two years, $30 million or whatever you were going to pay them, whoever you were going to pay, and actually done.
01:07:52
Speaker
get deals done um and see how, i don't know how it's gonna work with the lockout. If they're gonna go ahead and if lockout's coming, are they gonna just have, are they gonna extend the deals out or just have opt-outs?
01:08:05
Speaker
I just don't know how that's gonna play out. Yeah, that's what makes me that's what makes me think that we'll get Pete Alonzo back is is what youre what you both said, like AP bringing up the lockout. One person that doesn't have to worry about a lockout is Steve Cohen.
01:08:18
Speaker
he doesn't give up He doesn't give a crap about that. he just He'll spend the money either way, which if other teams aren't, and we can sign Alonzo to a short three-year $120, $150 million dollars contract, that'd be great. that way have to worry about him getting away and us having to go out and pay even more for a Schwarber, who I don't even think would be better for the Mets since Pete Alonzo's homegrown.
01:08:39
Speaker
um That being said, it is a weak free agent field, so if you are going to spend short contracts, this would be the time to do it when Kyle Tucker and Bo Bichette and Alex Bregman, Kyle Schwarber, that's like your top Pete Alonzo's, your top five batter kind of thing.
01:08:52
Speaker
Yeah, you're going to be looking at shorter contracts, less money, and that's but probably what's going to happen this year, AP said. Yeah. ah goingnna see some of these themes You're to see some of these teams, Omar, that that they're going to try the cheaper option first.
01:09:05
Speaker
a lot of these A lot of these teams are going to try the cheaper option first because of everything going on. Like for Texas, you'll probably see, hey, how much is Nathaniel Lowe worth now? Because we know him. He's these's played here. Helped us win a World Series.
01:09:19
Speaker
That could cover first base. I think they're bringing jo Jock and Jake Berger back so you could have one of those guys be your d eights you go ahead DH, DH. um That would definitely help. You could see some of these lower these lower contract guys probably get deals done first before anything else.
01:09:39
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I like it. That's a great analysis and a good point, my friend. All right, cool. Well, everybody, we really thank you and appreciate you from tuning in today to Ball and Buds. Make sure you subscribe at Ball and Buds, B-A-L-L-A-N-D, B-U-D-S on YouTube. There's handy QR code up there at top. It'll take you to our link. It has all our social medias. Go ahead and hit subscribe that YouTube, follow on Instagram as well. Hit that like button, whether watching now or on the replay, free to you and valuable to us. Please help us out.
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01:10:33
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01:10:48
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do want to mention real quick, Penn State is up four with two minutes to go about to upset
Conclusion and Mental Health Resources
01:10:56
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Indiana. so We got to go. We got to go. off yes We got to go. I need to go watch this game. All right.
01:11:01
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01:11:21
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01:11:33
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01:12:00
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