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Episode 5: Leo Season
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In this episode, we celebrate the start of Leo Szn by wishing Katie a happy Solar Return and learning more about Leo energy.
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Reunion and Hurricane Reflection
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Hello. It just happened.
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I was too excited to say hello to you. Well, say it. Say it again. Okay. Do you want to try that again? Take two? And action.
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Hello. Hello, Katie. How are you? I am wonderful. How are you? I am also wonderful. And I'm so glad you're doing wonderful because um I know that you have been without power for 10 days. Yes. Yes. That was shout out to Hurricane Beryl for fucking up my life for over a week. That was but so great.
Gender Identity of Hurricane Names
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and totally on par for cancer season um i love that so much for me we love we love a cancer babe is uh is barrel a man's name or a woman's name i let's google quickly i will quickly google does he like the only barrels i can think of are things like emeralds right like that's a
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type of general. It's a genderless name. We love a non-binary queen. We love a non-binary cancer hurricane.
Spiritual Ritual and Power Restoration
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Of course, that they then fucked me so hard.
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Oh my gosh. Well, I'm glad that everything is okay and that things are kind of returning to normal for you. Yes. I lit a candle last night and said a prayer um to my spirits and was like, please, if you have any love for me at all, you will bring the power back. And then about 15 minutes after the candle finished, I was staring at my ceiling just in dread and then the fan started moving and I was like, you do love me. Oh my God. That was amazing. Oh my gosh.
Life in Houston: Hurricanes and Humidity
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ah So yes, I'm happy to be here. Yes. This is why I've never lived in Houston, because hurricanes are no. Humidity is a no. It's just a lie. Yeah, it's not super fun. It's not super fun. yeah All
Taking a Mental Health Break
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right. Well, we took a little hiatus, not just because of the hurricane, but also just because Sydney was having a little minty bee, a little autistic bee.
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So chic. So trendy. So So we're good now. um It just turns out that I can't Like do all the things in the span of two weeks or even one week. um Like I went on two dates, two first dates in the same day, like mistake, mistake.
Dating Experiences and Podcasting
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What? Yeah. Curly more.
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ah Um, well, I forget about the podcast. I need to hear about these days. Sure. We'll spill all of my dating tea. They, not that they both listen, they both listen or they have both listened. So we'll see if they can. They're still listeners, especially because, um, one of them, like we've, we've let conversation. Piddle out a bit. Um, it um You know, there was talk of a second date, second date never transpired. I don't think either one of us really cares.
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um So yeah, that's all I'll say about him. And for the other one, we have decided to stay friends, but our friendship is actually very, very interesting. Okay, so story time.
Metaphysical Shop Encounter and Spiritual Connection
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Um, so there I was one June Saturday waiting for my psychic mediumship class to start. And, uh, I see one of the workers, uh, employees of the metaphysical shop where this class was, um, giving a demonstration with dowsing rods for this guy who's, you know, at our age, whatever. And, um,
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she holds the dousing rods like parallel and then she so she slowly walks backwards until she's in line with me and then the the rods cross. and i was like this is so strange. And so like, you know, I look at this guy and all of a sudden I just feel like all of this like weird energy everywhere to the point where like, there was no way I could even talk to him if I wanted to. I was like, this is so strange. Um, and then I was on hinge and there was there he was. And, um, yeah, so
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What caught my attention about his profile was he said, I'm interested in spirituality and trauma healing and therapy and plant medicine and all the things that in my brain was like, oh, like fellow spiritual baddie. I like this. And so um our first air quotes date because william we're not, none of our outings have been dates. But our first hangout was we just got coffee and shared childhood trauma as one tends to do on a first date.
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And the second date, we went to a cacao ceremony at the metaphysical shop where I first saw him. This is the most Sydney story I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, and then we got a bite to eat after and you know talked more about trauma and but mostly that time about more spirituality. And we text and send voice notes all the time and it's just about
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spiritual stuff like I'm teaching him about astrology and he's teaching me about psilocybin and I don't know we're just we're just uh exchanging interests with common interests in between and it's it's been cool having a spiritual friend here in Tulsa Oklahoma um to to bond over the stuff with and to hang out with so Well I'm so happy for you that you've made a friend.
Podcast Collaboration and Networking
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Um, and I am deeply, personally interested and invested on whether this person continues to listen to our podcast as well as I want to pick his brain about Sills Island. So, well, he is starting a podcast with a friend of his, so it sounds like we just need to do a podcast swap and be with others guests. So I would love that. Oh, such a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. We're networking, just like the Icelium network. Oh, wait, robots, gate key, gas light. In that order.
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it OK, OK, OK.
Oracle Cards and Leo Season
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OK, so let us, so today's, OK, let me see what that will work. So today's episode is about Leo and Leo's season. So let's start off with an oracle card to Let it go. I'm so excited. It's so funny because like the listeners at home can't see my facial expressions whenever you're talking. um Sydney's laughing because I make ridiculous faces while she's talking because I get so excited about what we do. ah But I'm really excited because I finally get to use my new oracle cards with you. The Magical Spirit Oracle by Alexis Raccoon. I think it's her last name. racon Raccoon Raccoon.
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I like raccoon. I think it just sounds better. Makes me think of a little tiny trash cat. We love a trash cat. We love a trash cat. They're just street cats like this. Oh, okay.
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Oh, So our card tonight is the portal. Adventure ancestors calling. Are you ready? And it's like this grandmother willow looking tree with a portal at the base of it and a young woman like sitting there with a lantern. um I will read what it says for the card. um Okay.
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So the affirmation spell for this card is, I am exploring the callings of my soul and new beginnings. This card has an energy of soul longing and yearning. If you felt a calling for something else, listen to it. Perhaps you're holding back because you're too comfortable with what is familiar and known. Embrace the unknown. No risk, no magic. If you don't cross the threshold, you will never know.
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boooky the key.
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Well, I think it's a good tie in to Leo because Leo is the sign of adventure. Yeah, very much so. And it is a it's a very well, it is ruled by the sun. So it's it is a I don't want to say egotistical in a bad sense, but like a more self-aware energy perhaps? Self-expressive, self-expressive? I think it's an energy of knowing like I know myself and I know what I need and I'm not afraid of voicing my needs to others.
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I like it.
Leo's Traits and Self-Acceptance
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which may can't come off as egotistical to some, but that's okay because I feel like the negative stereotype of Leo is only really felt and believed by people who haven't met like a Leo sun or Leo rising in an like intimate way. And then once you meet us, cause I am a Leo sun, shout out Leo suns. Once you meet us, do you realize it's not that we're all about ourselves, it's that we just think deeply about everything and that includes ourselves.
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And I think The idea of thinking about yourself is stigmatized, despite the fact that we live in a world and society that values, hyper values, I would say, individualism, instead of collectively working together to support one another. So it's, but, We have to take care of ourselves. We have to think about ourselves. We have to put ourselves first because we are the sun in the birth chart that represents us. So it's super important. And I don't think it's a coincidence that the sun and Leo and the fifth house are all kind of correlated. I completely agree with you.
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um Yeah, I think that.
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I don't know. i I feel like my personal astrology is like interesting to me, right? Because it's about me. But I think that my Leo son and my Pisces moon play off of each other a lot because I'm very loud and boisterous and bold. But then I'm very emotional about it too. And I get my feelings hurt very quickly when someone says that I'm too much of something. so um I think that you know looking we're gonna look at Leo placements a little bit tonight and I think that it's good to take everything with a grain of salt and realize that like just because you have one specific sign in your chart even if it's your sun sign it doesn't make up your whole chart like you have to look at your chart like very holistically. You mentioned that you
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feel very sensitive when, and you like easily get your feelings hurt, and that's your Pisces moon. But I think it's also your Leo son. I think that, and I'm gonna read something out of the book that kind of corroborates this a bit, but um you you guys have a lot of pride and pride can be bruised. So with that, I will, I'm a little bit about Leo out of this super amazing book that I just got.
Studying Astrology and Leo's Insights
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um This is a little news for you as well, Katie, but my recent passion has been um deepening my studies with astrology and actually taking myself seriously as an astrologer.
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Um, yeah, so, um, it kind of started with TikTok with random girls gays and gays, but posting their, uh, birth charts and by birth charts, I mean tables that may or may not have. any kind of um like house system or degrees or anything like that, just like sun and Virgo, like tell me about myself. I don't know. But it started with that and now kind of wanting to mostly deepen my concentration on psychological astrology,
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therapeutic astrology and evolutionary astrology, which is um looks at like a person's karma and their soul's purpose and reincarnations and things like that. um So cool. I'm so excited. Yeah, so ah with that kick, I've realized that used literature, despite being from the 80s, is actually amazing. And for the first time since high school, maybe college, I've annotated a book cover to cover. Yes. In pen. I've annotated books. Oh, so good.
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It's so good. I know. And like, I've been a Kindle girlie for so long, but there's just something about this that just hits right. um Yes. And so I'm starting a second book right now. But the first book that I just finished is called Horoscope Symbols by Robert Hand, who is like big time astrologer. If anyone knows anything about astrology, they've probably heard of him. No one else has that because he's only famous in the astrology field. True. But anyway,
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this book just kind of goes really in depth with not only the planets, but the signs, the houses and even aspects and just kind of keeps it general. Kind of like how when you interpret tarot, it's like you know the meanings of the cards, but you kind of keep it a little bit loose and and intuitive, right? Yeah, he kind of frames it in that way of things that are a little more intuitive and kind of clarifying maybe misconceptions across the history of astrology.
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But I wanted to read a little bit from the Leo section that I thought was interesting. um It says, with Leo, the basic structure of the individual entity is complete. This is clear in that Leo is a sign of developed ego and self-confidence with strong needs for self-expression, admiration, and uncompromising personal integrity.
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um
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While represents the entity complete in its basic structure, however, the individual is still socially incomplete. One has yet to deal with one's relationship to others. One is like the child who has just accomplished something new and who is not happy until every adult within reach knows about it. Even though every human being in history may have achieved the same thing, for the child, the accomplishment is new and fascinating. This is the basic psychology of the Leo principle.
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Nevertheless, there is a genuine fascination with the self and a desire that others be similarly fascinated. But only in defective, strongly Leonine personalities does this pattern emerge as egotism or show-off behavior. In most adult Leos, it comes out as a need for personal recognition, a desire to be impressive, and a need to control one's destiny. um The desire to be impressive is usually a desire to be genuinely so. That is, to be an individual of real significance, not merely to appear significant. The metaphor for the mature Leo is that of the king or the sun. Leo desires to be an energy source.
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but that provides not only for its own accomplishments but also for those of others. Just as the sun by its own reflected light enables the planets to shine, the Leo personality desires to be a center of light in which others may bask and shine back. I'll stop there because there's more but then I may just this podcast would evolve into just Sydney reads all the time. I love that. I love that. And they, I feel like it resonated so deeply with me about the need for recognition is not a, it's not a look at me, mom, look what I can do. It's like, Oh no, I really am. It's almost like combating imposter syndrome. Like I, it's like the, the self-confidence of the Leo.
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I feel like it's hard fought and hard won because you consistently doubt yourself all the time and doubt your abilities. And so you want the recognition, you crave the recognition because you want to feel real and to feel seen. Like you don't feel like until you receive that recognition that what you've done is enough. So I totally understand that. Yeah. And it later goes on to say that Leah's cannot exist in a vacuum. They need someone to see them. They need someone to recognize them.
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um And I don't think that that's a bad thing. You know, we're told over and over again to be self-reliant, to validate ourselves, to be individuals and independent, even hyper independent. But there is a beauty in relationship. And that might just be my seventh house emphasis talking, but I really do believe that some of the best growing happens with other people. Yeah, and I think that also like it's a radical form of self-love to be um so in your community.
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ah Tell me more about that. So I feel like in a world where that like that puts such emphasis on independence like you're talking about hyper independence that to be a person with character that cares about community it is like I don't know I just it feels radical it feels like anti-culture or like counterculture it feels like super important and it feels like the more you love others the more you love yourself.
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So before this conversation, Katie and I were were shooting back and forth, and Katie had said, my son's in the 11th house, but I you use Placidus, which most people do, and I use whole science. And so I'm kind of listening to you talk and trying to figure out which system might work better just from this. And I still kind of see the the both sides, whether your house is, whether your son is in the 11th house or the 12th house. So what you said just there about um radical self-acceptance and that
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um what so What did you say about the about groups, about
Holistic Astrology and Personality Charts
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society? You said something about that. Oh, like our society puts such a big importance on like independence and individualism that being somebody who is supportive of the community and cares and loves for your neighbor and your community is like counterculture to what they tell us nowadays. Yeah. So community and counterculture are both 11th house aspects. And so I can see in in this case, how the the house system I don't use could have some merit. But you've also kind of expressed a little bit of struggle, I think with self expression. Yeah, yeah. And that's very 12 house.
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is that like it kind of gets buried. They say the 12th house is you know the the very last house. And so it does represent not like actual death and rebirth, but kind of the ah flowing of energies into oneness. And because of that, some of your Leo energies don't quite make it out as vibrantly as they might in another house. Yeah. So it's interesting. And it would also depend on if you have any other placements in the 11th house as well.
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We'll have to look. We'll have to look because I think in the Placidus one, my only sign in the 11th house is my son, which is in Leo. Yeah. But I haven't looked at the whole sign chart. Let's see. Also, for those at home, ah Sydney has my chart saved on her computer, so I have my resident astrologer at my service at all times. At all times.
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Oh, Mercury is in your 11th house in whole science. Ooh, okay, which makes sense. Yeah, and it just shifted. um so Right, like none of your planets made it into Leo. They just, like the divisions kind of cut off different is how it works. ah So could be either or. I don't know. Porque no estos. Porque no estos.
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Oh, I love Leo season, though, not just because I am a Leo, but I feel like because one, I do love to celebrate my birthday, but two, I feel like Leo season is a time where people it's a summertime, it's hot outside, but there's also like this like energy of self-expression and confidence and embracing yourself and embracing your identity. um And so I love to see everybody experience that. Yeah. Leo season is kind of ah an interesting time for me, like just in the calendar year. ah So before I was a corporate baddie, I was a teacher. Before I was a teacher, I was a student.
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And so I kind of live off of a school year. And what happens during Leo season?
Transition from Leo to Virgo Season
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Usually school starts. And when you're in college, it's probably when you're moving in you know into a ah new dorm, a new apartment, whatever. So yeah those two things are always kind of represented to me just, you know, end of July, beginning of August rolls around and I'm ready for a new place to live and I'm ready for school to start. and And even as an adult, I always tend to move during Leo season without fail since since college has been happening. And then ah I always kind of get this like new surge of energy
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Um, as the sun transitions from my fourth house of home, imagine that moving all the time and into my fifth house Virgo, which is creative self-expression. And so it's, it's interesting how that kind of aligns for me in my brain. Yeah, I think it's interesting. I i love that like you're moving and then like it's leaving your sign for home. um So what's interesting to me is um you're talking about like the trend the transition from Leo to Virgo. So Leo is my sun sign. Virgo is my ascendant. Virgo was also ah my first and 12th house in the Placidius chart.
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So um I feel like there's a lot of again, renewal of energy and like a shift in my mentality during that time between Leo and Virgo. So it's like right now, like we're in the the very beginnings of Leo season. So I'm starting to feel like this metamorphosis, this change, my birthday's happening. um And so it's like very exciting, very good time. And then like as August comes on um and it turns into the fall, it's like
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I'm more like conscious, I guess, is a way to put it. like more deep in thought, more thought-provoking, more introspective of what I'm doing with my life because I feel like the year's coming to an end, the summer's coming to an end. like I feel like you're right when it when it talks about like ah living on the school year brain because when I was a student and then I was a teacher and now I'm not a teacher and it's like, but you so I still have kids and so like this summertime brain is like,
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It's the summer, you need to be doing things. And then the fall hits and you're like, okay, what am I doing with my life? Like it's a new school year. It's a new start. Interesting. Kind of how we, how we view like just that start of the school year a little bit differently. Yeah. You see it as, as a really sobering time and I see it as a really exciting time because it's all new. Yeah. but but but Interesting.
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Interesting, interesting how the placements work. Yeah, I mean, this is what I geek out on. This is like my thing. This is my, if I were a savant, this would be what I would be a savant about. If if I had someone to be like, you're Scorpio in the third house, I know it. I mean, there will come a day when I think I can maybe get to that point, at least a little bit, but like a real savant would be able, you could like name a date and I would be able to tell you where all of the planets were or something like that. but why That would be super impressive. Yeah. Yeah. I have met people with autism who were savant and different things. It's incredible.
00:32:59
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And I know that it's kind of been glamorized in Rain Man or whatever, but... Yeah, yeah. How did we get on that topic? Oh, astrology.
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Okay. Oh, God.
Embracing Self-Love and Identity Exploration
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i love I love this podcast so much because we start with such good intentions and then it just goes, whoop. But no, I think that going back to Leo season, not speaking for me personally, but speaking for everybody, the collective. um I would encourage people to take this time to really love themselves fully, to embrace their appreciation for themselves and really figure out their identities and live themselves like wholeheartedly.
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um and i And I feel like one thing that you can do, and I know I say it in every freaking episode, but people, you gotta to meditate. like
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I know I say it every episode.
Meditation, Journaling, and Affirmations
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Don't laugh at me. Because you do. I do because listen, if and meditation has 99 supporters, I'm one of them. If meditation has one supporter, I'm one of them. If meditation has no supporters, I'm dead. Meditation is the key. I'm telling you. Okay. should i I digress. Okay, this is this can be off the record maybe, but okay, I heard something interesting about meditation. So for the autistic brain, since our brain works backwards, instead of meditating to get higher, we're already so high, so we need grounding to get back into it. So I don't have to meditate, I just have to ground.
00:34:57
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Just gotta go touch grass. Just touch grass. Touch grass. And I do. That's what I do. So. I know. Literally. You call me FaceTime and you're in the grass and I'm like, I'm so happy for you. I mean, moved to Tulsa. We got lots of grass. Yeah.
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Okay, so if you're not gonna meditate, go touch grass. Also, like, you can journal, you can vision board, you can practice saying nice things to yourself in the mirror, which I think is kind of a gimmick, but I think it works. um My friend Bethany will aggressively ask me, say three things that that you like about yourself right now. And I freak out because it's very hard for me to come up with those three things on the spot because my brain is shutting down. But I'll be like, listing things and I'm like, I like my butt. And she's like, I'm proud of you. Good job. That's one thing. Now two more. And I'm like,
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Okay, and it takes my brain a minute to catch up to what I'm supposed to be saying. But but it's a good act of self-love. And I think that we need to embrace this time and everyone live their little Leo fantasy and be the main character. Amen to that. Here is to Leo, main character energy. Yes.
Global Experience of Leo Season
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it And it is no accident that Leo season is the hottest, hottest part of the year. At least hearing at least in the the northern hemisphere. Yeah, shout out to all of our friends across the pond and below the equator. Yeah, but if you're in Argentina or Australia, we cannot help you.
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first that you I know.
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Oh god. Um, okay. So Leo season is starting. We're living our main character energy. We're embracing the whole chart, not just certain placements because we are fully faceted human beings. What else do we need to tell the people? Be yourself. Just be yourself. But really, that would always be my advice, is to be the most authentic expression of yourself. Leo is all about self-expression, and I think that self-expression is self-love, so. I agree.
Tarot Reading and Inner Strength
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And now it's time for Cards with Katie. Yay! Oh, that's a good jingle. I like that jingle.
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I don't know if I'll remember it. do to do do do Okay. Oh, I just got an intrusive thought of the, of have you seen the Muppets where Kermit is like, and now it's time to start the show. Yay!
00:38:23
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right Let's see what we got tonight. I'm using the Cosmic Slumber Tarot again. Just because I feel like we're talking about Leo is cosmic. It's great. It's nighttime, slumber, yada, yada. Ooh, okay. um We're starting with strength in reverse. Um, so we need to be pulling in this Leo season. We need to be pulling in our inner strength. We need to be appreciating ourselves. We need to be looking internally for, for validation. We do not need external validation. We are strong, independent, cheese, gays, and bays. Um, and maybe a couple of straight men who listened to this podcast. Um, then we, then we have the queen of torches. Um, torches are wands, so queen of wands. Um,
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period. We're bad bitches. We're in control. We're in control of our actions. We facilitate change where we need it. um And we're leading the charge. We don't need any assistance. We have it under control. Okay. And then we have, ooh, interesting. Okay. So now we have the Three of Pentacles in reverse. Um, so I'm laughing because Three of Pentacles in reverse is talking about like misalignment. Um, or like,
00:39:47
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not having community and so I feel like this is an urge to find your community, to find those relationships that serve you and to really hone in on those relationships that build you up and give you that support because you don't want to be just out by yourself flailing in the wind. You want to have somebody to support you to gas you up like Sydney does for me and I do for Sydney. You know it was really interesting about that reading So the first card was strength, right? Which is Leo. Okay. And the next card was wands, fire. Okay. Right. And then I was like really curious as to what the third one would be after I spotted that pattern. But I think that the three of Pentacles with community is kind of what we were talking about earlier, where, um, it's not an energy that exists in a vacuum.
Entering a New Decade and Personal Growth
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Yeah. Right. I love magic. I love when it comes together. It's so good. I know, I know, I know. I'm doing a little happy dance in my chair.
00:41:00
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Thank you, cards. Thank you, spirits. All right. Well, Katie, happy solar return. ah Thank you very much. I am officially in my 30s, y'all. So scary, so terrifying. um Oh, but it's the best. So good. But it's the best. like Once once kind of things settle after the waves, it feels so good. I'm looking forward to it, and I'm glad to get to share it with you. Me too. All right, I will talk to you next week. All right, see you next week.