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Episode 177 - Tuck Your TikTok
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This week Brandon, Tony and Matthew sample through a few beers Tony and Matthew brought. Jimminey Schmicks makes his debut apperance, Matthew is berated and Tony's lack of editing is called out yet again.
Beers on this episode:
White Oak - Mo Ghile Mear Irish Red Ale
More Brewing - The Hound
Old Irving Brewing - Lucky Linny 2026
Big Lake Brewing - Peach Haze Hazy IPA
Sketchbook Brewing - Double Coastal
Phase Three Brewing - Pressed Coconut
Hidden Hand Brewing - Evidence of Cognitive Debt
Theme music provided by: Myke Kelli
Outro music provided by: Fluid Minds
Check out all our episodes at www.themaltinghour.com
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Transcript
00:00:02
Speaker
That's right. You were flipping through the That's why I muted it originally. and I know. When I heard you clicking the remote, I go, that's going to sound cool. I know. Tony ah really worked for his editing.
00:00:13
Speaker
yeah i don't really work for editing.
Introduction to 'The Molting Hour'
00:00:19
Speaker
Howdy do folks!
Show Intro Banter
00:00:48
Speaker
Welcome to the Molting Hour, where we talk about things that are made with molts. I'm one of your hosts, Jiminy Schmix.
00:00:59
Speaker
don't know, that's a fucking stupid name.
00:01:03
Speaker
We're not going with that intro. You go. No, we're not. We're going with that intro. I have the other host, Tony Golick.
00:01:13
Speaker
Dumbass is here. Matthew's here.
Recording Realization and Humor
00:01:15
Speaker
I didn't actually think we that whole thing when we recorded i've been recording for like six minutes. I love that. ah Hey guys, how's it going? Jimmy, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, sir.
00:01:25
Speaker
Can you get Brandon back? I like this racist guy. Racist? He's racist. Why are you putting labels on people because of their assent? Assent.
00:01:37
Speaker
You should be stoned to death in a square, my friend. Stop hiding me, boy. Boy? just talked down to you. What's his name? jimmy Pistols at dawn, sir. This is a hard time to shoot, man. you guys are able to see each other.
00:01:53
Speaker
That's all point, man. makes It makes a challenge. Anyway, that's how are you guys doing. Pretty good. Yeah. it's My favorite time of year.
St. Patrick's Day and Drinking Memories
00:02:00
Speaker
Corned beef. Corned beef Matthews here. St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, it's good time here. Is it really? I've been drinking lot of Guinness lately.
00:02:09
Speaker
i yeah ive been drinking a lot of guinnessly And in Guinness? No. Real Guinness. i actually bought Guinness to just drink at home, and it's really good. I have not had a van. Yeah. Guinness is a... When I lived close to where Revolution is on Kedzie, I went to the Bar Christina's place, and they were home of the $2 Guinness and $2 PBRs, and that's how I fell in love with Guinness. I know I've told this before this podcast. good I need to... need wiki.
00:02:36
Speaker
yeah Well, we also need to go to the Guinness Storehouse. Yeah, I've not been there yet. Neither I. Have you been there, Matthew? I've walked past it. So, no.
00:02:47
Speaker
You talk... You text like you talk, by the way. When we said, hey, what time you're available... you gave us like a whole bunch of information to where i had ask Brandon. So is he saying he's available from four 30 onward?
00:02:59
Speaker
Well, you made it seem cause you didn't put commas in your text message that you were available Friday afternoon and Saturday afternoon, but not the morning or in the evening. Correct. I didn't think. I don't think I said Friday afternoon. when You said Friday, Saturday afternoon.
00:03:13
Speaker
But there was no comma. it was like Friday, Saturday afternoon. brand new I understood. yeah You guys have been sleeping with each other. He's got a job, you stupid. You've been sleeping with him because he has a job? I wouldn't sleep with him if he didn't have a job. What you, stupid?
00:03:28
Speaker
jerry so He sleeps with me for my money and I sleep with him for his miles. Anyways, I'm opening up one of the beers you brought. It's, what is it? What does that say? Alcohol. What's the top?
00:03:40
Speaker
What's the name the beer? Chillyware? get in the because we're going have to look this up. I have no idea. Dude, you brought a beer that we don't know the name. Well, it's from White Oak. Where's from? It's a storm brewing.
Beer Tasting Begins
00:03:52
Speaker
White Oak Brewing. Where's White Oak? Downstate. Downstate. Illinois. Yes. Great. Yeah, we got a bunch of ah fun breweries that all came and brought beer to us for shipping to World Beer Cup. And so a they decided to bring us some fun beers. in White Oak, I had their English Mild. It was quite delicious.
00:04:10
Speaker
I'm getting to try the Irish Red. Are you guys the drop-off point? Yeah. We are, yeah. Noon Whistle used to be. um And then since the last Great American Beer Fest, they needed some help. And so Katie asked, and we have the big warehouse in the West Loop. so Yep.
00:04:29
Speaker
Right next to Goose. So he stole all their beers for the competition and brought them Oh, sorry, guys. You forgot to enter. I actually don't think there's Protestant here.
00:04:41
Speaker
Okay. See? They had 3-1-2 today. That's true, they did. If they lose. We know why. Anyways, let's talk about this beer. When was the last time? See, I don't know if we've... Let me back up.
00:04:54
Speaker
We've probably had one or two Irish Reds for St. Patrick's Day episodes. Which, by the way, this is not an official St. Patrick's episode. Even though tomorrow, when this episode comes out, is St. Patrick's Day.
00:05:06
Speaker
um did it over today That's problematic. So I like Irish Reds, but I think, and I know we've talked about this also, but Killian's Red was always the one thing that, you growing up, that's the only thing. I think that's the first one we had on our double episode that we did.
00:05:23
Speaker
We actually didn't. Yeah. Oh. I looked at it recently and I told, i think I told Virginia the story. She's like, you guys drank it all again? I was like, yeah. She's could you just recap it? What's the fun in that? Yeah.
00:05:35
Speaker
Bushmills and all, baby. Bushmills and all. And know all that means is it turns out that I just hit forgot to hit save wrong and it would have been fine. Yeah. I had it and then didn lost it. Do you still have that original episode? No. Oh, that would have been great. We could release that as a bonus episode.
00:05:53
Speaker
We just need to recreate it. We already did that once. Anyway. We can. You can go home. No, no. I'll play the part Tony and I will get up at 8 in the morning. yeah I'll play the part of Killian's Irish Red. And you can drink me in.
00:06:08
Speaker
okay We didn't drink Killian's Irish Red, apparently. But now he will be. Hey, guys. Let me in. Let me in. It's Irish Red. I'm ready to fuck you up. I'm Memse.
00:06:21
Speaker
I'm one of those guys. I'm an Irish fighter. Memse. Not all Irish are fighters. Come It's true. um This is delicious, by the way. I really like this beer.
00:06:31
Speaker
Yeah, this one's a little bit lighter in color. Than what? Than most Irish reds. Brandon chose violence today. Okay.
00:06:42
Speaker
Same. Just making sure we're on the same page. We're all hopped up here. Hopped up on hops.
00:06:50
Speaker
i'm got My wife will kill me. I'm not going to bed tonight. um I'm probably already not. so we're one level ah the ah It's really good. Brandon, what do you think about this beer?
00:07:06
Speaker
It's tasty. No, i so and not to promote, but did we have leneys right before this? Yeah. So. I feel like liny like just comparing those two, um and again, I haven't had another Irish.
00:07:26
Speaker
I literally reserve Irish Reds for around this time of year. So my my thought about it is that um this is feels feels lighter in body.
00:07:38
Speaker
um Lighter in... like You said lighter in color, so definitely that. this is on the left I'm holding up to... Yeah, and I'm assuming the right is older. it yeah I mean, not a knock against it. It's so it's a very good. It's a tasty beer, but...
00:07:53
Speaker
um Yeah. It's lighter. Yeah. If somebody gave it to me and told me it was an Irish Red, I'd be like, okay, great. It's ah it's a fantastic beer. but Irish Reds, I feel like, teeter on the line of like Ambers. Yeah. But then I think if we went to like Killian's, I don't even know if Killian's would be... What does Killian's even taste like? Yeah. i don't even know. It's been so long. Killian's, give us a call. Let us know what you taste like. um But no I mean, I like this. I would i would make this a regular beer if it was you know distributed year-round. Yeah.
00:08:23
Speaker
Probably not. Yeah. And White Oak is from normal Illinois. Not abnormal. God, I'm so funny. Wow. um No, I first came to know them because our sales manager, Nate, who's also an actor, was acting in Bloomington.
00:08:39
Speaker
And it was one of his favorite beers to pick up. What was he acting as? Normal. Abbey Normal. What the fuck's that shit? It's the name of the band?
00:08:53
Speaker
naval baba What do we got here? Now we also have David Vermoor brought us his Hound. This was not part of the beers we chose together. No, we chose violence.
00:09:07
Speaker
Oh, boy. This is... alright Oh, thank you. Again, a nice frothy head for a beer I can't get into right away. You do realize like the idea of this is that we drink the beer and not watch head settle.
00:09:19
Speaker
Okay. um We get a whole episode on settling head. oh Don't do it. Don't do it dickheads. Speaking of settling head. Just put it to your lips and drink.
00:09:31
Speaker
i don't think i want to do this show anymore with you guys.
00:09:36
Speaker
You don't have a choice contractually. What is this? This is 5.5% The Hound. What kind beer is it? Sorry, I wasn't subscribed. This is interesting. This is, to me, sweeter.
00:09:52
Speaker
Yeah, you have a little bit more of that malt characteristic on the back end. Maybe a little bit extra residual sugars. Smells good. Actually, i will say out of this, so far,
Peach Hayes Hazy IPA Discussion
00:10:01
Speaker
out of the three Irish Reds, the white oak one, I thought had a really nice um grainy ah smell to it. Like bready.
00:10:13
Speaker
Nice and biscuity. Yeah, there we go. Biscuity. Limp Bizkit. You know, it's chocked full of heady goodness. Yeah, it's nice to have the same style back to back to back. Yeah. I think ours has just a little bit of that, like,
00:10:27
Speaker
Burnt toast, like a little bit more of that roasted malt. ah I think the white oak is just a little bit thinner, little bit crisper. um And then the Morsier thing is just a little bit that richer, rounder, softer. It's nice because it's almost three different interpretations. Not almost. It is just three different interpretations of the same style.
00:10:47
Speaker
It's like the Northern Republic in Dublin.
00:10:53
Speaker
IRA? IRA?
00:10:56
Speaker
Dude, our Irish b listeners are going to be pissed. I'm muted. I can't unmute, apparently. Oh, there we go. Have you muted this whole time? No. let they good for For quite a bit. That's right. You were flipping through.
00:11:09
Speaker
the That's why I muted it originally. and I know. When I heard you clicking on the remote, I go, that's going to sound cool. I think Tony ah really worked for his editing. yeah I don't really work for my editing at all. um Overall, I think, like I said, all three of these,
00:11:26
Speaker
are great examples of what an Irish red canon, I think, should be. like i feel like we almost drink lighter to heavier, if that makes sense. Yeah. In my opinion. Lighter being the White Oaks first, and then going back to the Lucky Lady. What is this one called again?
00:11:45
Speaker
This one is the Hound. Bloodhound game? No, that's what we were listening to earlier. One of the things that were definitely appropriate for kids. oh Well, it was funny because Becky was just, there's a Bloodhound Gang song on and the image on the TV is a naked guy, just ah a fat naked guy. And I'm like, and? There's fat naked guys. What are you going to some Some of us are fat naked guys.
00:12:11
Speaker
Me. Live in the dream. When I take off my clothes, I'm a fat naked guy. You're only wearing one t-shirt today? Yeah, again. Oh, come on. Brandon, what is that you're searching for? Irish stuff?
00:12:22
Speaker
Yeah. The leprechaun? Oh, fuck. That's what I should say. Yeah. Well, I did hear about a 2012 horror comedy called The Grabbers. um I want to watch it out. Sounds like an adult movie.
00:12:37
Speaker
Only with you. Yeah, I was in it. It was great. But apparently it's like alien vampires on some like remote Irish town. And apparently the aliens...
00:12:51
Speaker
can't consume the people because they're vampires if your blood alcohol is over a certain percentage. That's funny. So then the whole concept is they they get the whole town to go into a bar and just get wasted to fight the aliens. Oh, that's cool.
00:13:05
Speaker
Kind of want to and watch that too. want to text you to remind me what that movie's called because going remember. no so Did you say the name? The Grabbers. The Grabbers.
00:13:16
Speaker
I know, I don't go back and fully listen to the episode. I piece it all together, lay it down, and that's it. so you fully listen to me?
Beer Flavor Profiles and Preferences
00:13:24
Speaker
No, that's why I'm going need you to text later. Anyways, overall, ah all three of these are very good. Thank you, Matthew, for bringing in some Irish beers for this non-Saint Patrick's Day episode.
00:13:35
Speaker
Yeah. Good. We should have had some corned beef for this, though. Or shepherd's pie. Taki-taki? Dude, I don't want be. Somebody could have brought us Some corned beef hash. Yeah, dude.
00:13:47
Speaker
I tried. I ate it oh It's in the car. Oh, it's always in the car. Out in the car, Matthew. You gotta go get it out of the boot of your car. Yeah. Out in the car, Matthew.
00:14:00
Speaker
right. i'm gonna Let's open up another beer here I would like you to get guys to try this one The one that I brought. oh
00:14:07
Speaker
It's from Big Lake Brewing in Holland, Michigan. This is Hayes. he's talking about Michigan. What? just Lake Michigan. It's not Big Lake. It's like Michigan. Alrighty then. Anyway. Peach Hayes Hazy IPA.
00:14:23
Speaker
I was up in Michigan last weekend. Virginia and I went up there just to... Get away and forget about the world. But it was great. was a lot of fun. Went Watermark, went to Transient.
00:14:38
Speaker
That was it for my reason. Oh, we stopped at Journeyman in Michigan. i had a fig, old fashioned. She had a cherry old fashioned. Their sandwiches were top notch. I had a fried chicken sandwich and she had their turkey club.
00:14:54
Speaker
I might be wrong about this, but i think it was like focaccia bread it was on or some type of bread that reminded me of that. Really, really good. um This beer I bought at Meyers.
00:15:05
Speaker
And i saw it and like, oh, I'll just grab a random beer that I've never had before. And I was pleasantly surprised. I would like you gentlemen to take a sip and give me your impressions. Or impersonations.
00:15:20
Speaker
I'm a peach. I'm not done with the other beer. okay
00:15:28
Speaker
No, I really like this, um especially for hazies. Some of the lighter hazies that we've been doing have a lot of these stone fruit tropical notes already. And this is very subtle.
00:15:39
Speaker
ah If you wouldn't have told me a peach, I would have just thought it was some new experimental fun hot. So this is actually, so this is the description. This hazy IPA sends you straight to the orchard with sweet aromatics and perfectly ripe flavors. Enjoy the juicy deliciousness of freshly picked peaches at peak of harvest. So I actually do use peaches in this, which when I like, this is warmed up from a little bit.
00:16:05
Speaker
When I first got it, it was like ice cold and I tried it. was like, oh, that's good. It's like very refreshing. I get way more of the peach now and I really, really like it. This is definitely, and mark my words, on the short list, which is actually long, of Maltese 2026. There it is folks.
00:16:24
Speaker
He's keeping track of that. I am. I'm writing it down on my list every time I say it. Brandon, what do you think of it? Oh, he doesn't even have it in his glass yet. He's still working on something else. He's working behind the scenes. Brandon's our behind the scenes guy. Always making sure things are running.
00:16:37
Speaker
Ooh, look at that. It's a different color. Jesus Christ. Oh. He just got really used to seeing three Irish friends and then he's like, ooh, that's yellow.
00:16:51
Speaker
It tastes like peach. Peaches, peaches, peaches, peaches, peaches. That's really good. Yeah. You were the person I wanted to have tried this the most because I know you've come to like, I think... Hazy IPAs? Yeah. And I think maybe it's because the variety of Hazy IPAs is much different. It's not...
00:17:12
Speaker
Here it is, you get that hot burn and, you know, people are just overdosing it. um But yeah, i I think this is probably one of the better hazy IPAs I've had in a long time. Like as far as like a new one I've tried.
00:17:23
Speaker
No, it's good.
Tasting Jokes and Anecdotes
00:17:24
Speaker
And I mean, I think... You know, looks-wise, it's definitely it's hazy. It's not overly bitter. I'm not getting hot. The peach comes through like fantastic. It's a really, like, and it's not like, oh, here's this artificial peach flavor that takes over the beer. Like, at first, it's like, ooh, hazy IPA, then all sudden, it's like, ooh, peach.
00:17:43
Speaker
Yeah, i've I've had artificial peach, and I do not like It well it tastes like ah those peachios, peach rings. Yeah. This does not. You ever had the tahini peach rings? Yes, those are very good. No.
00:17:55
Speaker
You should try them, dude. You tell me that's a thing? Yeah. Get some peach rings. I got some tahin. I'll get like two treat them for you. Tahin it up. know yeah You can make this for us right now.
00:18:08
Speaker
I don't have peach rings. jesus Unless you got them and they're in your car, then okay. probably has me Tony, bend over. Whoa. This dude's a weirdo. This guy's creeping me out, making me feel really uncomfortable on my own show.
00:18:24
Speaker
Nailed it. I will say ah it's definitely hazy. It's got a nice, like, orangish, yellowish. ey Peachy. Peachy. Peachy. You ever do grilled peaches?
00:18:37
Speaker
It's been a long time, but yeah. Grilled peaches is one of the tastiest things. I'd say no. I've done grilled pineapple. It's also tasty, but if you ever... done a burger and eaten it and made love to it. You know, that good stuff here.
00:18:49
Speaker
You both are making me uncomfortable. Burger stuff. Burger stuff. All the cool kids are doing it. burger's called Get Down, Make Love. Get down tonight. I just taste millions of peaches. just for me All right. So there's two song references right now. Brandon, you got a song you want throw in? don't want to get sued.
00:19:09
Speaker
i mean, we're not singing I got nothing. He's so energetic, now he seems defeated. He's really trying to make this work. he really want We succeeded. We've broken him.
00:19:25
Speaker
All right, on a scale of one to five...
00:19:31
Speaker
Peach trees.
00:19:34
Speaker
Peach pits. Peach pits. How many peach pits are you giving us, Brandon? um I'm like 4-2. Yeah, it's good. I like it. Matthew?
00:19:46
Speaker
I'd give it a solid 4. There's just a slight bitterness that's like lingering in the cheeks that I'm not a huge fan of. um yeah I get the side of my tongue, yeah. I get that.
00:19:56
Speaker
But right up front in the mid-palate, love it. Just a little bit of the finish that I... I'm giving this a 4-5, guys. 4-5. 4-5. Really one of the Maltese.
00:20:08
Speaker
It's on there, man. Ooh, I'm getting some type of call from Texas right now. I'm sure it's interfering with the actual recording. You can probably have that. No, that's just you.
00:20:18
Speaker
Yeah, that'd be right now. Excuse me. I think now it would be a good time take a break. We've got a couple more beers we're going to get through and some things I want to talk about. Brandon, hit pause.
00:20:30
Speaker
Pause. I don't know how to. Oh, yeah,
Review of Sketchbook Double Coastal
00:20:34
Speaker
so bye to you. Oh, good. We found Lefret. Oh.
00:20:39
Speaker
That, dude. dude supposed say, and we're back? And we're back and drinking Sketchbook Double Coastal West Coast Dipper. I forgot this is one of the episodes where you take lead. Dipper?
00:20:52
Speaker
It's not. It's not. no no, it's great. I know. I like it. We were talking for so long, I just don't know what's happening anymore. Things are so crazy around here. That stands for double IPA. but What?
00:21:05
Speaker
There's two IPAs in this can? Oh, God. 8.5%. Oh, God. 8.5, that means it's two, uh, 4.137, whatever. Oh, God, there's a lot of IPAs in there. Pi Day.
00:21:22
Speaker
It's a pi beer. Hey, happy Pi Day. Oh, we're day late. Two days, two days late. Two days late. When this comes out. Pi Day is tomorrow.
00:21:35
Speaker
Who's got pie? I got pie at home. We actually did it. We did it in my work today. We celebrated pie day since we weren't going to all be together for pie. So we went and got a bunch of mini pies from Deerfield's Bakery.
00:21:46
Speaker
Mine's at home. I haven't eaten it yet. I'm saving it for a minute. What pie is it? I got a French silk. Ooh, lovely. Okay, fancy. Bro, it's not fancy. Baker Square has it. tall French silk.
00:22:00
Speaker
That's what French ladies wear. All right. well This is from Sketchbook. Of course, dude. Okay. You're really offending all of the... over The Irish and the French. Yeah, so far, dude. Not cool.
00:22:13
Speaker
Never mind. All right. Brandon, what do you think about this Deepa? ah I mean, as far as a double IPA goes, it's it's good. like it's not It's not overly bitter.
00:22:24
Speaker
um It's kind of sweet, I think. Yeah. um it's pi I got like the pininess of it. It's citrusy and piney. Yeah. it's It's both citrus and piney, but like sweet.
00:22:37
Speaker
um There's no bitterness, which like i
00:22:43
Speaker
troubled at this point. I don't know. You're right. I get bitterness, but it's like the bitterness of a
00:22:53
Speaker
Pale Ale, that should just be an IPA. Does that make sense? No, that's actually not right either. No, but I'm getting like... It's funny. i'm getting So it's funny. we' I'm getting the citrus. I'm getting the sweet. But I'm also like... The bitterness... I'm almost getting like the pithy bitterness of like fruit rind almost.
00:23:13
Speaker
Yeah, but like not not in a bad way. It complements the beer really well. Because like a lot of times I would expect... um like, you know, hot bitterness.
00:23:24
Speaker
And it does not feel like hot bitterness. It just feels like it's something coming from like some fruit. So, um, I mean, that's just the way I'm feeling it right now.
00:23:34
Speaker
Ask me again in an hour. I don't know. Um, okay. Well, I'd have to drink it again in an hour. Well, hold on. The rest in the can. Yeah. I mean, I definitely, all of these are still, and and um, it's kind of funny how we've transitioned to,
00:23:47
Speaker
Not finishing all the beers from we have to drink all the beers and lots of them. Yeah. You guys didn't finish all the beers. I drank them all.
00:23:58
Speaker
When you're going to. You're going to do the after the final pour where you... a suicide. It's cuvee of everything. cuvee, not suicide. Even the barrel-aged stuff we might try. Yeah. um yeah or i'll try like too ah I like this. I think it probably sells well in the market for what a West Coast dip it needs to be nowadays, but it just... It doesn't remind me of like the West Coast Tricera House from like Ninkasi or like El Sugundo where those ones like hit you in the face yeah with the bitterness right up front. Yeah.
00:24:29
Speaker
Yeah. And those, and I feel like those I would get more of the piney like. You know what I miss? Hop Stupid from Lagunitas. Oh yeah. Hop Stupid was always fun to buy the bomber that was like three or four dollars.
00:24:42
Speaker
It was like super cheap. And I was like, this is crazy. How is this like big ass IPA in a 20 ounce bottle this cheap? er That's how. That was really rude. Because people burp?
00:24:55
Speaker
I forgot how Leprechaun starts. Murder. sir Brandon, how many... Pine cones. Yes, pine cones are you giving this?
00:25:06
Speaker
o I'm like Okay. Matthew? okay Matthew? I think 3.7 is a nice pair of them. I definitely would drink this. um I'd have another.
00:25:16
Speaker
it doesn't I will say it doesn't drink like an 8.5%. No, no. Definitely not. I was to say for style-wise, I would say 3.7. For a beer that if I just was at Sketchbook and they had that, I'd go, oh, I know what that is. I'll try it. The beer itself, 3.9, 4 even, it's up there as a very drinkable beer, especially with it being like 8.5%. It doesn't It doesn't taste like it. There's not like any alcohol burn. It's not like, you know, some of those bigger beers that they do now, the 9.9, you know, big ass cans, like some of them are good and some of them are just like, who it's just booze and fruit or bitterness. Yeah.
00:25:57
Speaker
Yeah, that's the problem is those 19.2s, they have to hit at a certain price point. yeah And so they use a lot more concentrated liquid hops to keep the price low. But yeah, that's that's all you get. We've had, what is it? Luda Rangers Fruit Force that tastes like... Oh yeah, like True Punch. hawaiian po Yeah, they're so good.
00:26:17
Speaker
But yeah, I think you're right. For me, like stylistically, I think that's why I'm a little bit lower as just beer that I would have at the bar. Yeah. Delicious. I would. And actually, I would I would definitely buy this beer if I saw it sitting on the shelf. Brandon, can you switch it up and grab that porter you put in your fridge that was off for two months?
00:26:40
Speaker
Two weeks. Wait, did you put it in there? yeah The porter was off for two months? No, his refrigerator was off for a week or two. Because when we recorded... Oh, so it wasn't running. I don't know which one it is. It's the one that's blue. No, I got it.
00:26:55
Speaker
Okay. Blue. body so saw this at Benny's. Precious. um Yeah, I'm excited about this. Grant's going to crack it open.
00:27:08
Speaker
oo' go you little Imperial Porter on the palm of his hand. He's going to look at it. I don't pre-taste my Imperial Porters.
00:27:21
Speaker
right. So this is, before I pass around, from phase three, pressed coconut Imperial Porter with coffee. It's 12%. Brewer's notes, coffee, coconut. um I've had some of the other pressed beers they've done, and I've always really liked them.
00:27:37
Speaker
I also enjoy a good porter, and I'm interested. I've i've had this already. um I do love an imperial porter. Like, the idea of an imperial porter is basically, to me, just a stout at that point.
00:27:52
Speaker
Yeah, I think stylistically, for me, I always think a porter just, like, a little bit thinner than a stout. Yeah. Maybe not as many residual sugars, but I will say, time give it a swirl, because I'm getting, i think, a different...
00:28:08
Speaker
aroma because of the other beers we've in this glass. Ooh. Yeah, I like this roll. Got some of the coffee note. I chilled, like, the right amount.
00:28:19
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:28:22
Speaker
Nope, that is a lot of residual sweetness. It drinks more like a stout to me. Like, big time. um I'm not mad at it. If we, you know, I was going to do the judging of stylistically...
00:28:37
Speaker
I was trying not to cough into this the having to hit the button. That was the funniest thing. he's having a connection. No, I literally ran it and it was like, it was like he was seeing something like, what the hell's that? That was ah Yeah, it drinks more like a ah sweet sticky stout.
00:28:55
Speaker
Yeah. it's And I'm okay with that. When I saw Imperial Porter in from phase three, i kind of figured this is what I was going to get. But I like the coffee.
00:29:07
Speaker
Coconut is super subtle. So I think if there's someone who, for me at least, I like there's somebody who might be sensitive to coconut where it comes off as like suntan lotion, this might be something that they could drink and be like, oh, I get it. And it kind of tastes like sweet coconut, not toasted coconut.
00:29:25
Speaker
Yeah. And it's in the aroma too. Yeah, I like the coffee. The coffee I get a little bit in more of the nose. yeah But yeah, it is just that subtle sweetness. Like for me, it is the coffee and the sweetness that really hit first. And then the coconut to finish.
00:29:41
Speaker
Yeah. um I was happy to see this sitting on the shelf at Benny's. Because i when I was up in Michigan, i but i am saving one or two of those ah bottles that I got, by the way, from Transient for us. What we do a specific after the Final Four. I did try one the other night. It was very good. Just a regular Double Girl. But because I bought those beers and I was kind of like not saving them, but I wanted to like drink them for it. I knew i was going to have one for myself, but the other ones.
00:30:10
Speaker
So seeing this, I was like, ooh, get my stout fix or porter fix in. Yeah, I think overall, it's it's good. It's tasty. It drinks more like a... don't want to say like like a pastry stout where it's like super sweet and over-adjuncted. But it's definitely sweet. It drinks more like a stout.
00:30:29
Speaker
And it's 12%. Yeah, I wouldn't say... also I just want to throw this out there. you Actually, you can... I'll look at our glasses for me. It's not...
00:30:43
Speaker
So it's it's, you kind of see it like it does it like a porter, you know, to a certain degree because a porter is a bit brown. However, Bourbon County, when you put Bourbon County up to a light like this, it's like cola.
00:30:56
Speaker
Yeah, and that's... I won't disagree that do think there's more pastries. But look at how coats the glass. I mean, coconut. But it drinks more like a salad. It has that sweetness. So I looked up a quick description. It says toasted and raw coconut. Okay.
00:31:15
Speaker
Why would you do both? You get different qualities from from it. I mean... the They at least have to toast everything or do an alcohol bath with the untoasted to make sure that you sanitize Wait, wait. There's a thing called an alcohol bath?
00:31:30
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Why am I not doing this every morning before I go to work? You didn't know? I did it before I came here. can
00:31:41
Speaker
and it's anyway away Anyway. The toasted coconut, you're going to get more of the oils from the coconut opening up. That is where you get a little bit more of the, like, suntan. kit Okay.
00:31:55
Speaker
Where the the raw coconut, you're just... It's going to be more of the coconut... don't I don't want to say necessary flavor because that people think of the oils, but you're just going to get more of those like under notes from the raw. Yeah, but I don't know why I feel like like the toasted coconut would overpower.
00:32:15
Speaker
coconut? Yeah. That's why I said I'm like, I thought it was just fresh coconut, not toasted because wasn't getting toasted coconut flavor. I was getting kind like the Almond Joy type coconut. Well, in most of our coconut that we do now, like we only do like five minute toast. Here it is, the Old Irving plug.
00:32:31
Speaker
It's the second one. Okay, well, this one's more specific. Oh, well, thank you. You're welcome. Yeah, so we only toast for a little bit because we want to open up the oils. You want to sanitize it. But, yeah, you don't want to do too much of the toasting because if you get that, you get lot more of that burnt caramel notes from the coconut as well. Do you, since we we're talking about Old Irving, do you guys plan at some point to, because...
00:32:58
Speaker
This past year, you did all the toasting in the brew pub. Yep. Do you plan to like move any of that production over to that space that you have? Not at the moment, probably. ah not Not for the adjuncts that need to be toasted. ah Our wood fire grill and how Trevor does it, he really likes how it works from there. And so it has been a pain in the butt, but Trevor's been driving everything down To the West Loop after he takes care of it. If you want to know more about that story, listen to our 2025 Krampus episode where Trevor goes into great detail about driving back and forth with all of that.
00:33:39
Speaker
With Tank. Yeah, Tank. um you know what's funny? Real quick. i leaned into the mic to say that and I can smell like the roastiness out of the glass now that I fit.
00:33:52
Speaker
Like it smells like burnt sugar. It's out of the glass. It's coming out of the mic. Oh, there's so much beer in it. I've got bad breath. All your slurring has gone into the mic. This is why I sit like this and just talk into the air. ah it's a suicide. Fresh smelling mic. I just have to go right into the mic and I get all the beer I want, baby.
00:34:16
Speaker
Brandon, how many coconuts are you giving this? o um I'm sorry, I didn't mean to like move things along. 200 feet? Whoa.
00:34:28
Speaker
yeah ah
00:34:32
Speaker
like For a coconut, like I like it, but I'm like 3.8. I was to say, like you can do it like we did the last one. Style-wise. I like it.
00:34:43
Speaker
um There's something that I'm missing about the coconut. yeah like i'm I'm getting it. I'm definitely getting it, but there's just something. Yeah, 3.8.
00:34:55
Speaker
Mateo. I'm on 4.1. I like this one. it is not overpowering. Brandon disagrees. Yeah. Eye roll. yeah Brandon doesn't like you, dude.
00:35:05
Speaker
Usually it's me. I passed the torch to Brandon tonight. You love me? i'm this I'm disapproving of everything in my life right now. so yeah Brandon, we love you, though. Tony, what do you think about it Great question. Um...
00:35:20
Speaker
You know, when I had it, I checked it was like oh, this is great. Like, you know, I like the way it was. Drinking with you guys and like actually analyzing the beer. Style-wise, you know, Imperial Porter. What the fuck's an Imperial Porter?
00:35:33
Speaker
it's It's a style at that point, I feel like. But um i think overall I'm going to go with like 3.8, 3.9, somewhere around there. Like...
00:35:45
Speaker
I like it. I would buy it again. And I do like all the press ones they do. um But I agree with Brandon. Like there's coconut there, but I am, I'm someone in the camp who really likes to taste coconut in a beer that says that it's coconut. All alright So I do have one question for you I don't work for phase three. nop What? Yeah. No, I was lying to you the whole time.
00:36:08
Speaker
Our friendship is based on life. What was your question? Face tray is nothing. Hmm. um Did you, you bought a single can? No, it was a two pack. How much was the two pack?
00:36:19
Speaker
Thirteen. Okay, and it's not barrel age, it's just an em Imperial.
Imperial Porter Tasting
00:36:24
Speaker
so yeah, thirteen for a two pack Imperial. Honestly, i i think that is probably what it is. Like, coconut's really expensive. Sure. So I think they'd probably just held that hold back a little bit.
00:36:35
Speaker
We've done some of the barrel age stouts with them and done a coconut one. And we used like 400 pounds of coconut. And like. Yeah. We've seen the pictures. So my guess is, especially at that price point, I think they wanted something that was a little bit more approachable on the shelf without being barrel aged. And so I'm guessing it just doesn't have the coconut that's just packed to the rims.
00:36:59
Speaker
Agreed. Are we doing one more? Or are we good? How are you feeling, Brandon? But we have the most fun one. We've got more time. We've more time. Do we want to jump to that, or do you want to do the one that you brought up, Brandon?
00:37:15
Speaker
What's that? a new zealand A New Zealand IPA. Yeah, New Zealand-style India Pale Ale. From where? A Hidden Hand Brewery. slash salmo I was excited by this because we also have a news we have but no we have an Australian pale ale coming out soon. We've done New Zealand an IPA on here before.
00:37:33
Speaker
o I don't remember. You're asking questions. i read about On what episode? Give me the timestamp. I don't know.
00:37:43
Speaker
He's fucking gay. yeah Pour it right on top of the stout. wash you like glass of beer I with Chicago from Old Irving Brewing. A sparkling hot water.
00:37:56
Speaker
Zero everything. Zero alcohol. Zero calories. Zero sugar. Zero carbs. It's Old Irving Chicago. Get it. In Chicago. You have a good radio voice. Thank you.
00:38:10
Speaker
I have a good radio face. No, sorry. that You are the leprechaun. Both. I'm not going to do my Irish accent. This can is super cool.
00:38:23
Speaker
Can read it real quick before i pass over you, Brandon? Of course. A bright rush fires fast. What? You're not going to do your Irish accent? A bright rush fires fast, loud, and seductive, like the instant gratification of an easy answer.
00:38:38
Speaker
Notes of gooseberry, mango, and sticky white grape are the obvious path forward. But it's the resinous bite and hot burn ah that reminds you that don't tell me there's hoer that reminds you that every shortcut compounds interest leaving behind a hazy debt.
00:38:55
Speaker
like to leave behind that description.
00:39:00
Speaker
Too wordy for you? it's Yeah, use chat GPT. Don't use chat GPT. Get AI to fucking dumb that down for everybody.
New Zealand-style IPA Review
00:39:11
Speaker
Not dumb it down, but... Okay, they're 100% right, though, in that description. um ah Because I took a sip, I'm like, ooh, that's nice and fruity, and there's the hop burn.
00:39:23
Speaker
Kind of funny. Ooh, yeah. Like, it's not like astringent hop burn. You know what i mean? But it's there.
00:39:34
Speaker
But that is very pleasant. It has much light, I mean, obviously even from the color, that is really beautiful, clear, like almost see-through. Hey, hey.
00:39:46
Speaker
Kind of tastes like doji. The hot profile. Hmm. Hmm. Wait. Smells like doji. It smells like doji. Like, the hot profile on it smell reminds me of doji.
00:39:59
Speaker
I've drank a lot of doji in my life. I would trust you. That's that mosaic. Yeah.
00:40:06
Speaker
Mosaic, Clark, you're going to hate this. um What... I think we asked this the first time. What the fuck's New Zealand IPA? Is it because it's just New Zealand hops?
00:40:19
Speaker
That's a good question. this case... yes, Nelson, Rwaka, and Crush are all probably New Zealand Mosaic. Fucking Nelson.
00:40:29
Speaker
I know Nelson. okay Yeah, Rwaka and Crush... um
00:40:35
Speaker
I mean, that's what, like, our Australian, we we got Australian. did it do A New Zealand IPA is a modern style of India pale ale, primarily characterized by the use of distinct aromatic hops grown in New Zealand.
00:40:48
Speaker
These beers are known for vibrant tropical fruit, white wine, get that, Nelson Sivan, citrus notes, offering featuring a clean, dry finish with moderate, balanced bitterness. They are similar to West Coast IPAs, but often lighter in color and body.
00:41:01
Speaker
I guess I would consider this more like a juicy, more than a West Coast. Yeah, but it's still 7%. It is, like, crystal clear. It's beautiful. Like, that looks like a lager. This is... I really like this beer. This is this is fucking delicious.
00:41:17
Speaker
I would, um... Say it's seductive? Yeah, maybe. It's seducing me because it's giving me booze. try it fast and loud? We'll find out later.
00:41:29
Speaker
No hail or anything? You're not you just going to keep reading the can that I already read? Yeah. That is a hard can to read. Words! I like words, my friends. Words are my best friends. Brandon, what's your feeling on this beer?
00:41:41
Speaker
Apparently, I like words. Brandon does like words. um I mean, based on... I don't know, like... I don't know words? No, no, no. Now I'm going to say, like...
00:41:53
Speaker
i'm not I'm not one of them fellers that's familiar with with the gooseberry. But I do get some mango in the stickiest of white grapes. Yeah, the white grape I get a lot. Are touching my tongue.
00:42:10
Speaker
So I'm assuming that other stuff is probably... Yeah, gooseberry. Yeah, but it's good. dude I like this. Yeah, I like this a lot. And it's funny because that hot... it It is. I did. When I was reading it, I was like, don't tell me there's hot burn.
00:42:23
Speaker
But there is. But it's not like I'm not getting like, oh, it's it's subtle. it's Yeah, it's there. And it's like, oh, OK. It's it's i don't know. I do agree. I would left off saying it because I've had plenty of other especially East Coast hazies that have way more. ah Oh, absolutely. This is like I wouldn't. Brandon, is there more in that can?
00:42:42
Speaker
There is. Sit down, baby, because want more. Daddy wants more of this. Yeah, this is – and the artwork on here is pretty cool.
00:42:54
Speaker
The person is removing their face. I don't know of how many – I'm going finish this. Cans – okay, fine. Cans or beers I've read of. I'm there that said like – Hot burn. Literally like saying, it's going give you a hot burn. You might get little burn in your chest.
00:43:10
Speaker
It really does like – the aroma does remind me of Dojo. Yeah, I mean, and also that's why I think I really love Doji and why like this so much is it has a very crisp, clean body with tons of flavor from the hops. Did you get this ah from taking in the yeah beer cup? Yeah, they brought it.
00:43:30
Speaker
Oh, man. I would like to find this and buy it because i think this would be, this is one of those IPAs that's not a hazy ah that someone who doesn't like IPAs might enjoy.
00:43:45
Speaker
Because there is that bitterness. There is that little bit of hot burn. But it's so... Oh, shit. There it is. It's so juicy and fruity. How old Doji is this? Christmas. <unk> Christmas Doji.
00:43:56
Speaker
Oh, yeah. You brought him a whole bunch of beer for Christmas, huh? What, you think showed to my house for Halloween and you have to bring him Christmas beer? Okay, that's good. That's fair. You're good friend.
00:44:07
Speaker
Karaoke, though? Yeah, right. Karaoke on the 28th. Yeah. I'm locked in. We're there. Got my calendar, dude. All right, what's your song? Dude, I've been practicing so many songs.
00:44:18
Speaker
You want bust out my Alice in Chains rooster again? Rooster. That's not it. He just invited you right now, dude. That is a lie. That is a damn dirty lie. did invite you.
00:44:32
Speaker
right This doesn't smell like what I was smelling before. Yeah,
00:44:40
Speaker
because this is what? Like four months? No, but this is this is a nice follow-up. like If you were to go back-to-back, start with... Did we even say evidence? didn't even say the name of it. Evidence of Cognitive Debt.
00:44:56
Speaker
We didn't even say the name of the beer. I just said it now for the first time. Whoops. That's why people hated the episode. Just, no. ah This doji is a good follow-up.
00:45:11
Speaker
I like doji. I know, I do too. But like seriously, like drinking the New Zealand IPA. Nice fruitiness. Happiness a little bit of... Sorry, I just shouldn't have been talking while I was drinking that And then going to doji...
00:45:28
Speaker
That's a super smooth transition. It like blends right into it. And it's in like you still get the lager from Doji. Guess what, everybody? We just found the best pairing of beers.
00:45:40
Speaker
You're welcome. That's really good. Hell yeah. That's fun. that's Man, i want to do that all the time now. All right. Well, I guess we're going to do a collab with them. Oh, my God, dude. It's so burpy.
00:45:54
Speaker
What's the beard name? Evidence of cognitive debt. Evidence of doji debt? That Brandon knows. Evidence of debt? ah that yeah mean Evidence debt? That's my bank account. Please, I need help send a certain money.
00:46:11
Speaker
um Yeah, no, this is good. Brandon, how many ah removable faces are you giving evidence of cognitive debt?
00:46:22
Speaker
Four. Right on. Oh. Oh. Zero, zero, one, three, two, seven, five, six. You're trying to do
00:46:32
Speaker
i't I don't know. Buy one of geniuses. No. 3.14. No, I'm like on a solid 4. That's all I got. right maybe m This is my favorite of the night so far. so I'm with you on that. I think I have to go 4.2.
00:46:47
Speaker
That is... Wow. would go out and find this one to drink. Especially also, don't know we said it was 7%. I'm going to for 4.3. 4.4 on there. That's really good. You're all wrong. four four on there cause that's that's really good you're all wrong this This and the peach are my two favorite beers. He's going to get you.
00:47:06
Speaker
The leprechaun? No. Jennifer Aniston, she's going to get me? oh I hope so. I fucking hope so. Wait, what? I don't know.
00:47:19
Speaker
None of our significant others listen to this podcast. No, no. Jen listens. Hi, Jen. Hi. Did you just try and do it in person? Did you ever say hi? No, I was just saying hi.
00:47:32
Speaker
You're saying hi to her as well? Yeah. um I left the blank space there so she can say hi back. el the But she said hi to you. Yeah, but... and I mean, got jealous. Because you have such a cute face. Dude.
00:47:43
Speaker
She needs let that go. Thanks for listening, everybody. Bye. I didn't do it. I was going to let you finish it just like that. So, Brandon, how how far are we in the episode? We've got to be approaching the final.
00:47:57
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Just shy of an hour. Shy of an hour. So we got two choices, gentlemen. why share three. Number one, we have another beer and we regret it on this episode. Number two, we end the episode and that's it.
00:48:09
Speaker
Number three, we end the episode and maybe do an after the final four that I still have a whole bunch of backlogs. After the final four. Brandon? Backlog. Backlog. Backlog. Brandon, would you like doing an after the final four or do you want to call it night? No, I'm cool. You do another everybody. Well, thank you for listening to this week's episode.
00:48:27
Speaker
Matthew,
00:48:31
Speaker
you're the... you're You're a guy. You know, you're just a dude who's here. You're the bee's knees. We like you. I'm some bee. Who's got knees? Was there the clear on there? Yeah. Shiny clear.
00:48:42
Speaker
I like that. That's good. Wait, what? He's got shiny clear nail polish. I have to file these nails down. They're disgusting. Dude, Caleb. come on, Caleb Williams. Yeah. He made it okay.
00:48:54
Speaker
Finally. It's going to be the Gary Bears. I wish. do hope it's going to be the Gary Bears. He's a fucking Packers fan. Get out! Oh, man. The Packers are going be so embarrassing this year. Brandon, love buddy.
00:49:07
Speaker
I hate Matthew. Yeah, I know. Love you, too, bud. All right. We'll see everybody next week. I'm going to start releasing these after the final four. I think we've got like four now. We'll take a month off. Yeah, never have it.
00:49:20
Speaker
okay they
00:49:27
Speaker
This has been The Malting Hour with your hosts, Brandon, Tony, and Matthew.
Episode Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:49:31
Speaker
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00:49:42
Speaker
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