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In this episode, Ross and Gregg discuss travel realities for extroverts and introverts

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Introverts vs Extroverts on Travel

00:00:04
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You are listening to Intro to Extra, the life and times of polar people. The podcast where an introvert and extrovert talk about how they perceive and experience life differently through random musings and anecdotes. Welcome back, everybody. I'm Ross the introvert. And I'm Greg the extrovert.
00:00:29
Speaker
And today we're talking about travel. Now, Greg just got back from a short, safe traveling trip, and I'm just reminiscing on the time when I was traveling. But for me,
00:00:43
Speaker
The journey, as they say, is not what it's about. That is not like, I'm all about the destination. I can't stand the journey getting there. So Greg, I am sure that you probably have 10 people that you've made friends with by the time you get to the destination. You might not even go to a destination with anybody, assuming you're gonna make friends. But let's either bust that theory or let's affirm that today.

The Art of Small Talk in Transit

00:01:11
Speaker
I think what we'll do is we'll start with my least favorite part, one of them, the ride share to the airport. Now, some people do the park and ride, you know, they park, but my wife and I do ride share. Greg, do you ride share to the airport if you are going with plane as your method of transportation?
00:01:32
Speaker
Yes, actually, that's my preferred method to get to the airport because $25 a day for parking is ridiculous. When I fly corporate, I get them to pay for the parking because it's convenient. But yes, no, Ubers and Lifts is a common practice for me.
00:01:48
Speaker
And I'm the guy that likes to lift better in San Antonio, at least. They're friendlier drivers than the Uber people. They're just nicer. They smile more. They talk more. But it's not the case in every city. Is it the pink mustache? They put it on the front of their car. Do you think that's wise? Yeah, I don't know. Because I see people doing both. They'll just flip their Uber and Lyft app. Well, I think most people do both. I think most people do both. I think there's algorithms, et cetera. But I have to set up on settings. Look for great conversationalists.
00:02:24
Speaker
Audible groan. Heard around the one listener that we still have. Are you the guy who gets in the car? The one listener. Are you the guy who gets in the car and just like immediately starts like playing on your phone? Absolutely. I mean, I would prefer
00:02:41
Speaker
if it wasn't completely rude because I've tried to mind my manners to actually have headphones in. I do like over the ear cans like I have on now if it was socially acceptable because I do not want to make friends. This is a 15 minute, 20 minute drive.

Airport Adventures and Preferences

00:02:58
Speaker
Heaven forbid there's construction, right? Because then I'm stuck in this car with this person even longer. Just get me to the airport. But you know, I mean, you pretty much know right away
00:03:07
Speaker
They're gonna start talking to me and I've got my script thought out in my head. You go through weather, you go through a couple of other things. The classic three questions, right? Like, how's it been? How long you been driving today? How far have you gone? How's the traffic been? What part of San Antonio do you live in? Is this your full time job? The classic set of I try to be a creative and think of other things.
00:03:30
Speaker
Like what city would you like to be a Lyft driver in? Oh, Greg, Greg. So, so you're, you're looking for the great conversationalist. I get, I get that. Do you, cause I've had the repeat Lyft driver before. Have you ever had that where you get the person you've had before?
00:03:47
Speaker
Oh yeah. I've had that before. Yeah. Does that, is that, do you get excited about that? Like, Ooh, this is like a second date. Well, it depends on if the lift or Uber driver was a good one. I mean, it's more like, well, you wouldn't match you up. I mean, do you rate people on how good they drive or do you rate them on how good of a conversation you had with them? They would let me just rate on conversation. I would rate on that. The driving doesn't matter. I rarely am paying attention to how well they drive. I'm a horrible driver. So we know, we know how Greg drives. Well, I know.
00:04:16
Speaker
It's easier to judge them on something I'm actually decent at than the driving part.

Admiration for Flight Attendants

00:04:22
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I probably shouldn't have a license, let's be honest. Again, I've never been in an accident or anything else that I caused, so that's good to know. And I've only had one ticket my whole life, so that's not...
00:04:35
Speaker
All right. So, so, so we make this trek. So we were going on this little, we're going on this little trip, right? We make this trek to the airport and this ride share, right? That's, that's when your vacation starts, right? For you. Cause I always think in my mind when my plane touches down or when I get to my hotel, that's when my vacation starts. So for you as an extrovert, you've already got that excitement because you're, you're getting to already like meet somebody.
00:05:00
Speaker
Yeah, as soon as I leave the house, the vacation has started for me. Even as bad as airports are, et cetera, it starts for me the minute I get in the car. I think what's interesting about the cans argument, though, with putting the headphones on is that's my plane move. Like when I sit on the plane, I'm not trying to make friends in the plane. Really? Yeah, no. Interesting. See, I figured you would
00:05:24
Speaker
You'd be, I would almost envision you as a middle seat guy intentionally so you have two potential opportunities for conversation. In the times when it's good, this is my issue with playing conversation. In times where you have a natural connection with someone and it's a great conversation and you can make it go and flow and everything works, that's great.
00:05:46
Speaker
What's not fun is sitting next to the person where about five minutes in, you know, that awkward moment where you go, I don't think this person wants to talk to me anymore. And you're, or you're sitting in your mind going, I don't really want to talk to them anymore. And then you have no move. You've got no move. So you have to put the headphones, like you have to get them ready at least, and then kind of judge out your victim.

Hotel Amenities: Use or Avoid?

00:06:05
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If there's not, they want to actually talk to you.
00:06:07
Speaker
Yeah. So it's like a headphones in the lap type of move to where you can easily. It's a headphones around the neck. Oh, oh, around the neck. So quick draw, right? Yeah. Boom. Put them on there if need be. It sends the message without being rude that you don't no longer want to carry on a conversation with this person. Yeah. In case of emergency break glass type of just, just flip the headphones on. Okay.
00:06:26
Speaker
Yeah, because you never know at all and you never know if you're going to be sitting next to like the righteous like right-winger or left-winger that wants to tell you about their political views. Any sort of extreme, not siding one way or the other, just any sort of extreme that you know you're just going to have a problem with is never a good sign.
00:06:46
Speaker
So before we board this magical flying tube that goes through turbulence that freaks me out, but that's not an introvert thing. That's just an afraid to fly thing. It's a whole other problem that I have. The airport in general, right? Get through the airport, go through. I have TSA pre-check. Love it. Same. The TSA folks that check the licenses.
00:07:14
Speaker
I try to be as friendly as possible to them and not saying people like being jerks to them, but I try, you know, I'm smiling. You know, some people just like get it, go move on. They're stressed. I try to smile. I'll even make some sort of chit chat comment with them because I'm thinking on the flip side, if I'm doing that job all day,
00:07:36
Speaker
I want a little bit of variety because you know, you're not going to actually end up making friends and having to do a lot of small talk with this person because they are moving you through the line. But I'm thinking on the flip side, they've got to have some games that they're playing. Like how many people in a row can I get from one county or one state or can I?
00:07:55
Speaker
Oh, you mean the ID people? Yeah, the ID checking people, right? That check your passport. See, I'm thinking international travel. Just, you know, check your... Yeah, I always think they're playing the game of, did this person used to be attractive? Like, I think they're doing that game where they're like,
00:08:13
Speaker
This picture's eight years old. Nope, still ugly. So as an extrovert, could you do that job? No, I would be inefficient at that job. I'd be talking to people all the time. I'd probably actually say that stuff out loud. Wow, that's a pretty picture you used to have. Ooh, you fine.
00:08:31
Speaker
like wow you've aged yeah how many stamps do you have like where have you been all my life i have had wonderful mask i have had wonderful mask if i could if they could go with me right and i think it was more it definitely was an attraction thing
00:08:47
Speaker
Um, but it was just, yeah, the destination sounded better than what they were. That is awesome. Can I go with you? I think it was probably Vegas, right? So they probably did a Vegas thing. So that was, but that was like the most like humor interaction I've had. Like a lot of people, then there's the poor guy who has to keep repeating, you know, you must take all of your stuff out. You're in TSA pre-check. If you have a belt on, you could leave it on, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All those things are like, man.
00:09:12
Speaker
They wouldn't give me that job, Russ, because I'd make too much fun of it. I did this when I wore drive-thru at a fast food restaurant. I used to see what crazy things I could say on the drive-thru until I got in trouble and said, you can't say the wacky world of Whataburger. You got to stop saying that. That's not our brand.

Introverts at Disney: A Unique Take

00:09:27
Speaker
That's not what we're about here. I'd be the same way on TSA, I think. I would be like, yeah.
00:09:34
Speaker
You've done this before. Don't have any liquids. If you do have liquids, make sure it's alcoholic. You still have to dump it out, but at least you'll feel a little bit more proactive about your decision-making skills. Unicorn blood is considered a liquid, folks. It's not a gel. You have three ounces of it, please. Set it out so I can inspect it. Been looking for some. Yeah. Yeah, I hear you. So you get through there. You know, the airport to me is
00:10:04
Speaker
It's a good people watching place. We've talked about people watching. I think briefly just, I enjoy people watching. You know, the airport's a good people watching place. You don't really have a whole lot of interaction with others in the airport because people are very much ready, you know, try trying to move on, get ready to go. We just mentioned, you know, you get on the plane, you stake out your spot. If it's, if it's like a Southwest or you, you go to your specific seat, if it's not,
00:10:34
Speaker
Let's talk about the hosts and hostesses. Hostesses, hostesses. I can't. You mean the flight attendants? Yeah, the flight attendants. I feel like they deserve more than that because they put up with a lot of stuff and flight attendant just, I think they do a lot of stuff. So I.
00:10:53
Speaker
would be mortified if I had a Greg as my flight attendant. Because I think that's the perfect job for you, Greg. I really do. I feel like you have these micro-interactions, but I don't know. Would you absolutely love that job?
00:11:16
Speaker
I think customer service and I like customer service. The problem with flight attendant is if somebody was rude, I probably would be not so nice back. My favorite flight attendant was on a flight from London. My buddy and I were flying first for business class. We were flying.
00:11:33
Speaker
We were we were on a flight with almost all people. It was like a Tuesday. So everybody on the flight was business related and we were just drinking. And I think this guy just got tired of us always asking him for more. So he just started throwing bourbon bottles from the front of the airplane to our seats. He just like chuck chuck chuck chuck. He was trying to see if we could get if he could hit us in the chair.
00:11:54
Speaker
It's like a t shirt cannon for little miniature bourbon bottles. Yeah, he was not having the greatest day in the world. But I think he also was having fun with us. I think depending on who you have, I've seen. But yeah, I think being a flight attendant would be kind of fun. I've had I've had my fair share of fun flight attendants that I could see myself being and plenty of them that hate their lives. So I mean, yeah, I mean, it'd probably be a decent job for me, I think.
00:12:20
Speaker
No, I wanna, for our listener out there, let's rewind for about a minute and talk about Greg's ballerness when it comes to business class. I just totally, nothing related to introvert or extrovert, I don't think. No, that's just bougie. Yeah, Greg's totally bougie with his business class, like, oh, you know,
00:12:48
Speaker
Like how he struggled between was at first clay he slipped their first class business class. It wasn't like coach business class. It was There is no There's no coach and I and I respect that Greg because for you Flying is an experience. It is right. Like it's for me. I just want to get there. The only reason I've flown upgraded from just standard
00:13:14
Speaker
next to the latrine, I haven't said latrine in a long time, is because it's for my

The Source of Confidence

00:13:23
Speaker
comfort, because I'm a nervous flier. I don't like turbulence. It's not that I think turbulence is going to impact me, it's the sudden turbulence that makes my stomach go into my throat that bothers me. And yes, folks, I don't like roller coasters for that reason.
00:13:40
Speaker
Now, what else is unique for you about travel and planes and just that journey to get to your destination? Well, for me, travel is. I mean, traveling is just as important as getting to the destination and leaving the destination. It's all part of the whole experience. I do know that people do. So in plane situations,
00:14:06
Speaker
I mean, I like having an airplane lounge, because you do meet interesting people and where they're traveling and what they like, and you find out what they're interested in. It's like a walking content asked like brochure without actually having to read anything. People will tell you what the great things are to do wherever the hell they're from. You don't even have to like feed into that. So yes, I do like meeting interesting people and talking to them about things. And people are much more apt. This is why I fly business. This is why I do a lot of things. I want it's not only just for comfort reasons, but also because people for some reason have their guard down
00:14:35
Speaker
when they're not flying. They almost assume that you're part of the tribe when you're in business class. If you have lounge access, they're like, oh, this person's part of the tribe. We can trust them. We can share commentary. If you're in coach, it's like, I don't know you. I don't know who you are. So what you're saying is if I get a lounge card, I need to carry my subscription of Wall Street Journal with me and know the latest on geopolitical unrest around the globe.
00:15:03
Speaker
Most aren't, no. Most of them are the same people as other people. I mean, my actual favorite ones, the ones that you know are flying on their parents program, like the ones that are like 20, and they're flying rich and you're like, oh, you're using your parents' miles, aren't you? This is awesome. Let's talk to them about stuff.
00:15:19
Speaker
Yeah, Daddio is a pilot for Delta and has triple platinum status. You can always tell who's faking it. I know my first experience, it definitely was faking it, did not feel comfortable. Then you realize you've just got to come with confidence and people will talk to you. But I think that's the same thing for all conversations, interactions with people. If you look like you're supposed to be there, then people start treating you as if you're somehow been part of the program forever.
00:15:45
Speaker
Yeah. And it's an interesting, it's not necessarily travel related, but it's an interesting one when you talk about coming with confidence into conversations and you think of an introvert versus extrovert mindset and how introverts are very thoughtful thinking through things and
00:16:06
Speaker
You know, just very deliberate with what they say versus extroverts being more just, I'm going to, I'm just going to throw it out there and put it out there. I think both of those things can exude confidence. It's to me, it's more of a.
00:16:21
Speaker
And I don't know, I just assume extroverts will say 10 things and five things might come out sounding confident, right? People are going to pick up on that versus an introvert will say two things and maybe they're both, maybe they both come out as like, okay, I know what I'm talking about and doing right. And I think, especially when you're, when you're interacting with people you've never met,
00:16:45
Speaker
It's tough for me. It shouldn't be. As an introvert, it shouldn't be difficult for me because I'm thinking in my head, hey, I want to be, you know, thoughtful about this. I want to try to make a connection because I'm putting time and effort into this. But I might never see this person again. So like, who cares? Who gives a flip? That's what I should think, right? I tell myself that, but I don't. Well, I think that that's what I was going to get to. I think that's a really insightful thought there.
00:17:14
Speaker
Confidence is less about what you say, and how you say it, and more about how you feel. Because how you feel about something, and how you feel about yourself, and how you feel about stuff. People just say something, we've talked about my clothes in previous sessions.
00:17:29
Speaker
People always go, I couldn't pull that off. And I'm sitting there going, I'm not really pulling this off. Like, I just know that as long as I walk around, because talking about the suits, it's Halloween, right? Talking about the Halloween suit and those kinds of things. Those are all, to pull that off,
00:17:47
Speaker
It's really just telling yourself I'm wearing a regular suit. Because I don't feel comfortable wearing a giant suit with a bunch of Christmas stuff or Halloween pictures on there. It's really just about, it makes people smile. You know people are going to look at you and so you've got to just walk as if you're wearing a regular suit because nobody pulls that off. Let's just put it that way. Nobody ever pulls any of that stuff off. There's a reason Tom Ford doesn't make Christmas suits. He knows people aren't going to buy that to take to an awards ceremony.

Finding Common Ground in Conversation

00:18:15
Speaker
And I don't think half the people that are on business class or half the people that are wealthy, that are going to these things, these sessions, feel any more secure than someone who doesn't necessarily go to those things very often. I think it's really about how you yourself feel confidently. That has nothing to do with extroverts and introverts. That's just being confident in yourself. Then it's about
00:18:36
Speaker
It's about how open you'll be and that's when it becomes extra virgin. Yeah, it's the method method of Frequency method of delivery right all of those so so back to the travel we've landed I think the third piece for me That's always in my head other than great. I have to take another lift to my hotel. All right, that's
00:18:58
Speaker
Now, you know, Disney, you get the magical express, which is amazing because I can sit there and watch watch Disney stuff and people are super friendly. But I know that I know what to expect. But we get to we've arrived at the the hotel.
00:19:13
Speaker
or the hostile if you're, if you're so, so inclined, but not going to do that for me. Cause just a whole another, whole another situation. I fly business classes, stay in a hostel there. Hey, you know, maybe you spent it all on business class. You're looking for a good deal, right? So hotels, what is, uh, there, there's a lot of amenities. There's concierge. There's a lot of stuff at a hotel.
00:19:40
Speaker
that for me, I never use. Part of it's I'm just to myself. I don't know. Some of it might be that, you know, I'm introverted. I want to find my own things. I want to like my mindset is I'll figure some of these things out, but I'm curious your perspective on hotel amenities, you know, the bar, the usage of the concierge, the lounge area, the happy hours at the hotel. Do you leverage those?
00:20:11
Speaker
So I was going to ask you actually about the Disney experience, like, cause you stay at Disney resorts. Oh yeah. So I know you get up and go and I'll answer your question. I'm not trying to dodge the, dodge the question as much as that kind of childish smirk there waiting for me to see what I was going to say about the bars at lounges. Um, but you know, I was just going to make everybody think that I'm a drunkard is how this is going to work out. No, no, I wouldn't, no, I wouldn't say that. But, but the,
00:20:41
Speaker
At Disney, you had a resort, right? So you have to get up in the morning, you go down, you go to the bus, right? The buses that take you to the park, or you take the boat if you stayed at like the New Orleans or whatever it was, the Magic Kingdom or not. You have to interact with people, don't you? Yeah, well, you do, but it's
00:21:03
Speaker
Cause I, and here's my thing, right? I am a sucker for a great experience, which is why I like Disney so much, but I think my wife and I did the keys to the kingdom tour where they talk about the, the five keys of, of Disney, which is six now because they've added inclusion and.
00:21:25
Speaker
I believe it's inclusion either diversity or inclusion, but both of which are good For me the interaction with those folks I know what their what their goal is going to be for me as an introvert some of some of the reason I don't want to interact is or some of the reason that I only interact with small groups of people is because Once I get to know you in the small group of people, I know your intention. I know what you're trying to get across
00:21:52
Speaker
I know the real you, and I feel like, and people can disagree with me or not, I feel like Disney has trained their folks to be as authentic, or at least authentic, Disney as they can. So when they're in the show, because one of them is show, one of the keys is show,
00:22:11
Speaker
You know you're going to get the show so when I interact with somebody I can say have a magical day They're gonna say it right back. They're gonna smile. They're gonna wave. I know what to expect It's almost like I know that person because I already know how they've been conditioned and trained
00:22:28
Speaker
versus a rando you know that i'm talking to at the airport or something i don't know i don't know what you're thinking what your motive is which is why you know my my friend groups are small because it takes me a while to establish that and say
00:22:45
Speaker
Am I good with you? Do we align? Do we agree on enough things? Do I know what your motive is? So I think that's why the Disney, because yeah, I interact with a lot of people at Disney, cast members everywhere. Yeah, but not just cast members.
00:23:00
Speaker
Because get on the bus. I mean, I just I know the interaction happens on a bus is you're going to get that lady from Palm Beach. Sure. Who's like going to smile at you and then ask you questions. Plus, you guys wear those kind of Disney funny t-shirts. Yeah. They're going to ask questions. Right. So do you do you interact with them or you just give them kind of a half smile and pass it off to your wife to talk to them?
00:23:21
Speaker
The latter, I mean, my wife is less introverted than I am. So she can mask that a little bit better than me. So I'll pass it off to her. But you also have to think sometimes I have enough adrenaline and enthusiasm going, because I can do that. I do that as a job. I do that all the time. It is way less draining.
00:23:46
Speaker
When I'm chilling at Disney hanging out to interact with somebody because I can, I can get that energy right back up. So it's, it's, it's a boost of, it's a boost of adrenaline and energy. And sometimes we love dressing up for Mickey's not so scary Halloween party and that will draw attention and.
00:24:06
Speaker
Greg, I

Socializing Strategies

00:24:08
Speaker
love it and I hate it at the same time. Do I really want to dress up as Mike Wazowski with the big eyeball on my stomach? Do I really want that?
00:24:19
Speaker
The people want it, right? So I do it. That's all I have to say. So I do it. We have a blast doing it. We have pictures. It's fun to talk about, but I can tell you there are shows at Disney, and I'll use the example.
00:24:37
Speaker
Monsters, Inc. laugh floor, where if you sit in the right spot, they have the comedians do that show and it's improv. So they will come to you and they will ask random questions. I mean, it's a set question, but they will. They are better than you at improv and comedy, so you can't be snarky back to them. They will get you.
00:25:00
Speaker
I struggle doing that show now because I'm afraid I'm going to be called on. And I don't know what that interaction is going to be like. So now, meanwhile, my wife, who is an introvert, but loves being just a tad bit famous, loves that show. Absolutely loves that show because she and we've been on it multiple times.
00:25:21
Speaker
So the fact that we've been on there multiple times, and every time I leave, they're going, God, I should have responded that way to that guy. That would have been funnier. That drives me nuts. So yeah, that's Disney in a nutshell. I think the cast members, I know how they're gonna interact. I've been there so many times. I almost see them as people that I already know. But that's kinda why the Disney experience is different. And yes,
00:25:49
Speaker
Ah, the transportation is, yes, you're always going to get the transportation, but usually there's going to be a screaming kid somewhere. But that explains something I didn't understand before of why you guys go to Disney so many times. It's not just Disney. It's not just the experience. It's the consistency of it. Absolutely. And the knowing what you're going to expect when you go there. And even something new is not that new because you understand the socialization process that goes through
00:26:18
Speaker
that with every, every aspect of that organization. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, and it's, it's total somebody who wouldn't like Disney would be like, Oh, you've drank the Kool-Aid. It's so corporate, but yeah, I, I have a great time. It's consistent. I can ride and I'm sure it will be replaced one day. Rest in peace. I can ride figments ride over and over and over again. It's the same show. It hasn't changed for 30 years. I love it every time, every single time.
00:26:48
Speaker
Well, I think that's, I think what you're getting to is, is, is why people probably like cruises and those types of things. Um, so to talking about an extrovert, right? So, so talk about what's something that you probably would have thought was incredibly intimidating. I think you did mention that it would be an intimidating was the cruise I took in December of last year, last vacation that really actually gone on where.
00:27:09
Speaker
Um, the deal was just too good to pass up, right? The deal was just too good to pass up. It's a bougie cruise that would have been four or five times the cost. They basically paid me to get on it with a bunch of old people. I think we mentioned a little bit on previous podcasts. What if our listener is over 50 Greg, don't old or mature. These people were pushing 70 buddy. Okay. That's old. Yeah. I don't consider anyone. I don't consider anyone under 70 old because
00:27:37
Speaker
No, we're going to be there soon anyway. Yeah, I'm right there. No, not then. I'm knocking on that door. No, they were definitely, I mean, the idea was that the people on the cruise were trying to hook me up with their granddaughters, tells you kind of the age of the people on the cruise. Wow. Yeah. Their granddaughters would possibly be similar age as me, tells you a lot of how old most of the people on them. How much fun did you have on that cruise, Greg? I had a blast. I made lots of friends. I mean, so much so, in fact, that one of the ladies even said to me, she goes,
00:28:06
Speaker
I was dancing at night and she thought I worked on the cruise and she goes, honey, you know, you can, you can go back to your room. Like we don't, we don't need to chaperone anymore. It's like after your time. And I'm like, I'm a guest here. Like, she's like, did you get on the wrong ship? Like,
00:28:22
Speaker
Yeah, but for me, it was, and she had a lot of work done. I mean, that face was definitely three faces deep. But it was fun to be, to do that and to make friends. But I could imagine that as someone who wasn't open to meeting people of all different Oaks and different backgrounds and whatever, and was interested in people as much, that cruise would have been boring.
00:28:44
Speaker
It was, I mean, there wasn't anything to do, really. I mean, there was trivia at four. There was, I mean, I mean, the night ended at nine, 10 o'clock. Like, that does sound right up my alley, but we haven't talked about my workout. But it was really just eating. It was really just eating and sitting around was pretty much it. And then like going to the jazz club at night, like wasn't a jazz club. It was like a little cabaret. And then there'd be somebody new there. But I enjoyed every minute. I met lots of interesting people who had interesting stories to share.
00:29:11
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And to the point of in amenities, which is where we're going with all this. Yeah, like that's the whole point. I try to stay in hotels. I'm not a resort guy because I don't swim in pools. It's not a big thing. I don't really like sitting around doing nothing unless it's talking to someone. Talking is like my favorite thing. I found out that I actually enjoy listening to other people talk so much that now I'm obsessed with watching QVC. I don't even care what they're selling. I don't want to buy it. I just want to listen to someone talk to me.
00:29:34
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Which is a problem, but so many things to tell you right now, but we're pushing our time limit already. So we will save up for another time. So bars and things is all an opportunity to sit down. And I think really in a lot of ways, not to call out my personal life, but I think
00:29:52
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I was so different than my farmer spouse that I would want to sit and talk to people. And she was much more interested in introvert, very much more interested in going back to the room and being alone and just sitting there watching TV or whatever it was that we're doing or doing things just her

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00:30:08
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and I. And I so wanted other people to be part of whatever experience I was having to great lament and to great dissension in our situation.
00:30:18
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because I do like to be part of those things. I like to have lounge access and get the hors d'oeuvres and the thing, not only just for the fanciness of it all, and the bouginess of it all and acting like I'm super rich when I'm not, but also just the interesting people you meet and the stories I'll share because they're the same. What do you do? You're gonna eat and you're gonna drink. And there's no like, there's nothing else around. So you're looking for a conversation like people look over and go, Oh, you're drinking scotch. Okay, let's talk about scotch. Like it's just that's the kind of thing.
00:30:42
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Yeah, and I think to tie that together is, you mentioned a thing in common, I will say it's way easier for me to connect with people at Disney or talk to somebody at Disney about something, or I used to do, I used to travel and do all like the rock and roll runs, you know, half marathon marathon type of stuff.
00:31:05
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You know, you catch somebody wearing something or has something that you know about easier to have that conversation and get to know that person because you can kind of go on that thread a little bit longer. So for me, it's I'm not going to seek that out. You probably are way more adept at bouncing through different topics and finding something within a couple of minutes that you're like, okay,
00:31:31
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I could spend some time talking with you about that or time to move on, you know, put the headsets on if you headset on, if you will, in the in the airplane. Right. And for me, that's so much work for me to even try to find a commonality. It almost has to like reach out and slap me in the face, be like, hey, look, they're wearing a shirt of something new, like pow. And then then I'm like, all right, I guess I'll talk to this person. They seem to be somewhat cool. So.
00:31:57
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Yeah, yeah, I think in traveling, there's always the I've had this happen, the extreme extrovert who's far more extreme than me, that's looking really hard to figure out how to get me to engage in a conversation. Oh, they're probably just drunk. But yeah, yeah, like, like, really, this this actually did happen. I went to vote. And I mean, we'll get off of travel in just a minute. But like, because we're almost at our time. But from a voting perspective, this really did happen. And we can dive into this in the next podcast. But this guy saw my shirt, I was wearing a Texas.
00:32:25
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He asked me if I watched the game. I didn't because I don't really watch sports. It's not my thing. So, but I'm, you know, I knew enough to keep a conversation going with the guy because he wanted to talk to me. And so I asked him some questions. That's usually the best way to do is deflect. You just go, Oh yeah. No, I didn't see the game. How was it? Like what happened? Yeah. Okay. Whatever. And you just say, Oh, there are a bunch of bombs, blah, blah, blah, blah. You just keep this lady that stood behind us. She's so desperately want to talk to someone. We've been in line for an hour and an hour and she's definitely bored and trying really hard to jump in.
00:32:53
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So she just started jumping in with stuff, trying to throw something against the wall. And you could tell the other guy who started the conversation with me was not interested. I love sports ball. Talk to me about sports ball. He was not interested in being part of the conversation with her. He wanted to keep talking to me. And I didn't really want to talk to her either. I was interested to talk to him, but now you can't be rude. So you got to like just kind of keep that bouncing, like that ball kind of floating in the air.
00:33:15
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That's why I just don't talk to anybody. Yeah, you're hoping for the lull, like enough of a lull to be like, I'm going to go back into it, which I would have brought my AirPods. Oh my goodness, this is awkward. Yeah, you're like, anywho, walk away. But you're in a line. You can't get out. You're stuck now. And so she wanted to talk. And then it got crazy. So I just started saying crazy things. I started to say inappropriate things, hoping that she would stop talking to me. Didn't work.
00:33:38
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No, it just caused a very short minute of like, everybody's quiet. Like, Oh my God. We could probably have a mini segment of things to end conversations, right? Maybe I could help you. Maybe you could help me with some conversation starters. I don't know. We could have a little, a little pro tips from Greg here. Here are inappropriate things that you can say that won't get you arrested, but we'll get you out of a conversation.
00:34:02
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Yeah. It makes you go, yeah, so I'm going to go over there. Now we keep saying we're running out of time. It's not like we have some sort of like commercial to cut through to because we're not sponsored by absolutely anyone and it's clear in the audio quality and content.
00:34:20
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But to help with the sanity of our listener, we're going to cut it pretty close here, a little bit over 30 minutes. But we do want to thank everybody for listening to this week's or month. Gosh, it's been forever, Greg. We'll just say week. We'll keep trying this week's episode of Intro to Extra. And next week, what do you want to talk about next time, Greg?
00:34:46
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So, I mean, this was a lot of travel piece was interesting. I think we continue on the theme of innocuous interactions. I like the point of going and like, how do you end a conversation as an extrovert? How do you end a conversation as an introvert? That's a really fun topic.
00:35:04
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All right, we'll do that. We do need to talk about voting at some point in time, because I think voting is just to be a two-minute blurb. But I have some opinions about the voting, especially in not who. Don't worry. Don't turn it off. Yeah, we're not political. Lose our last listener here. I'm just talking about the process of voting. It's just very interesting to me. But maybe I'll post that on C-SPAN. That's probably a better audience.
00:35:34
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But once again, thank you everyone for listening and have a wonderful and magical rest of your day.