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Episode 250 - The Whisperer in Darkness
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In this special 250th episode, Josh and M discuss the recent BBC true crime podcast, The Whisperer in Darkness. How do Jack Parsons, Number Stations, a supposed governmental conspiracy, and the Rendlesham Forest Incident fit into the investigation of a missing person?
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Celebrating 250th Episode
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250 episodes. I know, it's been what, five years of content? Yes, we've had our ups, we've had our downs. So, so many downs. Too many, too many really. But 250? We never thought we'd get this far. I mean, we kind of thought episode 113 would be the last.
Podcast Continuation Decision
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Yes, that was when you went off to Bucharest. The first time. Indeed, but we continued. Well, we persevered. Things were really the same.
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We do not mention the trip to Transylvania. Well no, no we don't. I was going to say things are the same after we got infested with brain worms, but if you want to give the game away as to why we only record at night. In other news, well actually I don't have any other news other than Golly G Willikers, it's episode 250. Time to play the
Introduction and Theme Ceremony
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theme? Time to play the party theme.
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Hey! It's the podcast's guide to the conspiracy!
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Hello and welcome to the podcaster's guide to the conspiracy. I am Josh Edison sitting next to me, Dr. M. R.X. Denteth, and you, listener, are listening to the 250th episode of this podcast, more or less. 250th official one. Yes. There's only little wibbly ones in between that I really count.
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The numbering of this podcast has been a little bit weird for a while. A little bit like the Gregorian calendar really. Sometime back in the 15th century there were a few numbers mixed around. There are 17 episodes of the podcast which we're just done away with by a pope. I mean that's quite the story but we cannot get into it here and now.
Special Gifts for Josh
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Now as mentioned last week
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Josh has had since the episode went on hiatus. Both a Christmas, a special Josh Christmas, his own particular type of Christmas, not the standard one. Unique to me in real life. And also a fairly generic birthday, which everybody shared, but no one recognises other than Josh. Now, last week I gave Josh his Christmas gift. This week, appropriately, I'm giving him his birthday gift! I don't know why I said it that way. There you go.
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Old man. Open it as noisily as I can. Can you pour out my cast screen for this game?
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It's true, otherwise people at home will not realise it's an actual event which is occurring in stage. It's not in stage? On stage. On air. No, that was not fancy foley work, or that technically was, I suppose, but there we go, that's a present. And that's all I'm going to say about it. Yeah, I don't think we need passing in comments on the content of that box, do we? And I'm sure it's not relevant to what's going to happen in this episode at all.
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Not at all, but this is an exciting episode, because this is episode 250. And as I say, we kind of thought things were coming to an end when I went to book rest the first time. But then technology came to the rescue after a fashion, and we sort of did a whole bunch of Skype episodes, which we'll probably be doing a bit more of as you go travelling all around the country-slash-world this year. Yes, there is a lot of travelling going on.
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in the first half of this year. An awful lot of traveling. So with any luck we'll be able to pull it off again. That's our specialty. That's true. But now we're still together in the same place at the same time. So we're going to pull off another podcast. We should do it now. Let's tug away at this week's topic.
Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident
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Last week we talked about the Rendlesham Forest incident, in which a supposed UFO sighting or landing was meant to explain a series of weird events in Rendlesham Forest on the 26th of December 1980. However, a recent True Crime serial, The Whisperer in Darkness, part of the Mystery Machine series of podcasts, ends up shining a new light on the matter.
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According to the Mystery Machine serial presented by Matthew Heywood and Kennedy Fisher, the events in Rendlesham Forest might be explicable with regards to an attempt at the Babalon working. In their account, an occult group performed a summoning ritual on the night of the 26th of December
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the consequences of which are not just weird lights in the sky, but a series of even stranger events which continue to this day. So how do numbers stations, occult groups, a secret of government department and the work of pioneering rocketeer Jack Parsons fit into the Rendlesham Forest incident? Well, in this, our 250th special episode, prepare to find out.
Government Secrets and Conspiracies
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Yes, so this episode of our podcast is about another podcast. This is not the first time we've covered true crime podcasts with a slightly conspiratorial bent. And this is certainly one of the more interesting ones. Some of the events we're about to describe do stretch credulity to a certain extent.
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This is a recent BBC podcast, and it deals in part with the Rendlesham Forest Incident, so that's why we hinted obliquely last week that doing the Rendlesham Incident podcast episode was part of a larger plan, and now this week that plan comes through. A conspiracy, if you will. Yes, we weren't really doing it in secret.
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No. No. A very half baked conspiracy, if you will. So tell me about this podcast then. Why are we talking about it today? Well, we're talking about it because it features a whole bunch of things which kind of tick boxes when it comes to the podcast's guide to the conspiracy. We've got secretive government departments. We've got numbers station broadcasts.
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And we've got long-ranging conspiracies, in this case over hundreds of years. But the story itself starts off actually kind of small and insignificant. So the previous serial that the Mystery Machine did looked into what was a locked room mystery, the curious case of Charles Dexter Ward, who was locked in an asylum room and then one day wasn't there anymore.
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and that led to a rather interesting journey to Providence, Rhode Island, and an investigation into this person called Joseph Kirwan, who seemed to believe he had the ability to reincarnate over time, which it seems that a young Charles Dexter Ward kind of fell into the trap of believing that story. And so
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That story went in some fairly unusual directions. And it seems that the producers of the Mystery Machine podcast went, we want something a little bit more sedate, a little less weird. And it should be said, of course, that not only it went in some fairly conspiratorial directions as well, because they did end up in their research suggesting that some of these people believe they belong to a cult, a secret society.
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that were intrinsically conspiratorial. Although we'll come back to that later on because it's salient to this discussion. So I've got conspiratorial straight away with the talk of secret cults and weird things going on. But yes, then they thought, well, let's dial things back a bit, I think, and started investigating what appeared to be a fairly humdrum missing persons case. Yes. So this is the disappearance of Henry Akeley.
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who one day just gets up and leaves, although as the podcast investigation continues, it seems he doesn't get up and leave, he simply disappears completely. But he leaves behind a whole bunch of recordings of things which he heard on his shortwave radio,
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including a very unusual number station broadcast. Now, we've covered number stations in the past on this podcast. It'll be the last time we covered a number station on this podcast. The YouTube video got pinged for a copyright strike. It did a little bit, yes. We included a clip from an actual number station. Using fair use? Well, if it's the whole clip, then is it fair use, even though it's a short clip?
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Ooh, good point. Maybe we actually were rightfully pinged for copyright, but it doesn't matter. We've actually created our own number station broadcast. So to get an idea of what a number station listens like, sounds like, sounds like, why not, after the chime, consider the following words. Six, six, nine, four, six, alpha.
History of Number Stations
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now number stations have a kind of long history in the world of conspiracy theories because no one's entirely sure what they are or at least when they know what they are why they continue to broadcast because most of them do date back to the cold war or earlier so there's a question as to why some of them are still broadcasting to this day and of course given the role of number stations in the past which was transferring messages on
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Nine, two, three.
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using kind of cryptic clues and code books, what are they broadcasting about now? And Akeley has a rather unusual numbers station recording, which initially everyone thinks mentions the word Babylon,
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but actually is referring to something called Babylon.
Jack Parsons and the Occult
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Now I realize in a Kiwi accent it's going to be very difficult to tell the difference, so Babylon as in the city is not being referred to here, it's Bar-bar-lon. Yes, with an A in place of the Y, which gets you in another conspiratorial direction altogether, because that's your Aleister Crowley sort of magic stuff, isn't it?
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And particularly pioneering rocketeer Jack Parsons. So Jack Parsons we've talked about in previous episodes. Jack Parsons is a very famous individual in the annals of rocketry because his work with Caltech basically before World War II and during World War II led to the massive movement we got with NASA and the like and rocketeering in the US. But one of the weird things about Jack Parsons' rocketeer
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is that Jack Parsons was also practitioner of the old sex magics. It was a weird thing because back then when they were first sort of working on it, being a rocketeer was kind of like saying you were an alchemist. It was a hobbyist position of people basically engaging in using explosives to make things fly into the air in a way which
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Was it necessarily governed by any code or scientific practice? And it was people like Parsons who actually went, no, we've got to kind of codify what we're doing here. Yeah, but in the same way that, say, Isaac Newton, while being sort of one of the fathers of modern science, also was an alchemist himself and believed in slightly sort of weird supernatural stuff, these guys were kind of the same cloth while they were doing genuine science. They were also, as they thought, practicing magic.
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And indeed Jack Parsons was, to his own mind, actually practicing magic because he was an acolyte of one, Alistair Crowley. He was also very good friends with a young L. Ron Hubbard at the time. And that's another story for another time. But basically Hubbard did the dirty on Parsons and ran away with a very large amount of his money.
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Q&L legal threats from the Church of Scientology. Indeed. Now...
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bringing this back to the podcast. The number station appears to be originating somewhere in the region of RAF Woodbridge. And in the podcast it comes out that Mr Akeley is located close by to Rendlesham Forest and where the Rendlesham Forest incident came in and so on. And it's that particular incident that becomes central to a large part of the podcast.
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And this is because Akeley with a whole bunch of other people like Thomas Marston were involved in a coven back in the 80s led by one Amelia Fener.
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and whilst they were engaged in their governish work, they tried to attempt the Babylon working, a working that Jack Parsons either successfully or unsuccessfully attempted back in 1946 between January and March. Now the Babylon
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Babylon working, see even to my ear it's hard to distinguish between Babylon and Babylon. The Babylon working was a ritual designed to summon an elemental force
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Babylon, which Parsons felt was at least somewhat successful, in that as soon as they finished the initial part of the working, he met his future wife, Marjorie Cameron, and through her, attempted to incarnate Babylon, inform through the act of having sex. Yes, because eventually a lot of these deculti things just all kind of end up in an excuse to get laid, really.
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I mean, that's something we see here. I mean, that's true of quite a lot. I mean, not all magical rituals require having a bit of sex at the end, but there is quite a lot of it in certain aspects of paganism. If that's actually a necessary aspect of it, or these people aren't stupid and have found an excuse to have a bit of fun. But what better way to finish our summoning ritual than a light bit of frottage?
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So the contention of this podcast is that a young Henry Akeley, among others, attempted a Babylon working of their own in the wee hours of the morning on December the 26th 1980 in Rendlesham Forest, which then explains the strange lights that the members of the RAF and the US Air Force saw at the time.
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and is also meant to explain other weird events that have happened subsequently. So the kind is that they were trying to summon something and that something was summoned, but exactly the nature of this and whether or not that turned out to be a good thing or a bad thing.
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Now, it is stressed by the remaining... it's just a member of the coven, isn't it? There's only one person left after Barbara Sayers kind of disappears from the scene. That they started the ritual but they never completed it.
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And this is meant to cause a kind of breach in reality, a tear in the fabric of reality itself, which explains all the other weird events that have happened subsequently in that region. And at least according to surviving member of the Coven, Thomas Marsden, also might explain to a certain extent what happened to poor Henry Akeley. That Henry Akeley is hearing things, and maybe those things are
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you
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part of that rupture in reality. Although I suppose now we're talking about ruptures in reality, we need to go quite a way back in time and talk about John Day. John Day was, would you call him a wizard? I don't know, would he call himself a wizard? A magician, I suppose. Actually, he would have called himself a spymaster, because I mean, most of his work was actually for the Royal Court transferring information from, well, into France and out of France for the ink.
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I can't even say English court, apart from when I just said English court right there. Speechless fluency is a really weird thing. So he was actually mostly a spymaster, but he was also quite fond of Enochian magic and Enochian magic systems, because like Parsons and Rocketry, and Sex Magics at the same time, being a spymaster and a proto-scientist,
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Didn't actually exclude you from also doing things like magic back in the day.
The Necronomicon Mythology
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Now, D is, according to some, somewhat famous for translating a book called the Necronomicon into English. Sounds sinister.
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Yeah, so the Necronomicon is apparently a book by a Middle Eastern author, who in around about 700 A.C.E. Sorry, this person's name is El Hazred, went to Nineveh to find the secrets of Epekuaia, which relates that he supposedly worshiped by these culty people.
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from the Curious Case of Charles Dexter Ward, and the fact that Ipqui had some kind of ability to resurrect itself over time. So Al-Hazred is trying to find the secret of Ipqui's immortality. And in the desert, it is alleged, and we have to say alleged here quite a lot, because there's some big questions here about this particular character and the book he wrote. He finds a pre-human advanced race of elder beings
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who apparently also live beyond some kind of portal, so they're not actually resident on Earth, they're resident somewhere else, and they teach him how to contact them remotely so he doesn't have to go to Nineveh all the time to find out the secrets of Eppkuaia.
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and then Al-Hazred writes these things down in this book called the Necronomicon and then at some point later in his life is ripped apart by unseen forces in Mecca and basically disappears from history. That's the story. Now the thing which makes this awkward is that it's actually very debated as whether the Necronomicon actually exists or not.
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Indeed. I mean, it's weird that's come up. There was a, wasn't there a bookshop here in Auckland? Pathfinders. Yes, there used to be a magic bookstore here. I don't mean magic as a really great, I mean, a bookstore which actually specialised in magical texts, spiritual texts and the like. And they had copies of the Necronomicon.
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which were all different, all attributed to different writers and translators, all of which contained different text and diagrams inside, which has led people to go. The Necronomicon is a very useful name for, I've just written a book of magic and want to make it sound old and ancient, I'll call it Necronomicon, because there's no such book for people to actually verify or check.
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No. Yeah, I mean, as a name, it's almost a bit of a cliche, a little bit, I suppose. There was... Who was that fellow back in the 20s? He wrote books. Oh. The initials, two initials. Names that I kind of saw, HP. HP Lovecraft. Yeah, he's an author.
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actually quite awkward to read these days because he's actually quite racist. A lot of racism, like it was being written in the 1920s but even for the time. He was considered to be a bit of an avant-garde racist back then. A lot of his horror involves sort of miscegenation, breeding with sort of subhuman breeds or people devolving into
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His descriptions of these sort of horrible big-lipped fishy creatures do sound a lot like sort of Jim Crow-era stereotypes of African-Americans and so on. Well, caricatures of negroids, no. People listening, I just put quote marks around that word. Yes, not a non-for-polite conversation these days. No, not at all. Yeah, and he seems to...
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use the Necronomicon there as a kind of panacea to explain anything he wants to explain. So I mean this notion of a Necronomicon existing has been part of both religious studies and fiction writing for a long time. But apparently John Dee was responsible for an English translation of this particular text.
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And he was the one who kind of brought the text into the south of England, into the area around Rendlesham. And not just that. Apparently, and this is all alleged because it's not part of the official history of John Dean anyway, shape or form, he created covens around the area which actually inscribe the sigil of the Babylon.
Skeptical Views on the Occult
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working. Now, this is all stuff that Heywood and Fisher talk about in the podcast. Obviously, they're fairly skeptical. They do, they consult, what is it, Eleanor Peck, who sort of becomes the voice of skepticism in the podcast, doesn't she? She sort of is a person who studies a cultist as a
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and sort of folklore academically, not believing any of it. And so it's very much around sort of giving, you know, this is what these people believe and sort of spells it all out, but does not drink the kool-aid herself. Yeah, although I'm a little bit worried about this whole Eleanor Peck character. So as listened to this podcast will know, and for a new listener, you're about to find out something which other people already know,
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I'm a research academic in philosophy with contacts all over the world and I've put out feelers in the UK for experts on witchcraft cults and the like.
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doesn't appear to be anyone called Eleanor Peck, who is doing work in this particular field, which either means that Heywood and Fisher have created someone to basically express academic views, or, and I think this is actually more plausible, Peck did not want to be referred to by her real name, because the, I mean, even though she goes out of her way throughout the podcast,
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to express the I don't believe this stuff but you're asking me to be a kind of devil's paraclete here to express what do these people believe. The editing of the podcast does sometimes make it sound as if she's talking about things she sincerely believes to be true and so she might have gone no no just just don't use my actual name just refers to me as something else. I do have a bit of fun with her as well when she's
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There are points where she's like, oh, for God's sake, you're not going to use that as the quote, are you? This is just, I'm not saying there's a thing that's going to happen. And then the theme plays. And then, yeah. Yeah. But she actually is the one who kind of, while at the same time sort of saying she doesn't believe any in it, puts out the whole conspiracy theory going forward. And it sort of, as well as you've got your Central American deity,
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And then other, other weird names like this, this one figure called Nyarlathotep, who supposedly might have been the thing summoned by the Babylon working or something. And then this elder god called Azathoth, who its thought is, the whole world is a dream of this god.
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and the workings of it that these things are doing are going to wake up the god which will of course cause our world to cease to exist which is the plot to Zelda Link's Awakening on the Nintendo Game Boy as I recall. Which I'm currently playing the Switch version thereof though in that case it's the fish egg entity thing I can't remember it's name but no yes the idea that if the fish wakes up the world ceases to exist which is actually what Link has to do to easily
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It's all very meta, and that explains why there are Mario characters in a Link's game. But we're not here to talk about the podcast's guide to the Legend of Zelda. Unless, of course, patrons really want us to, at which point maybe we will.
00:25:28
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Yes, you're more the Nintendo person than I am, so I'd have to defer. But anyway, yes, you're right. So basically, the conspiratorial claims being made by this podcast get fairly wide-ranging because it's not just they claim.
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that we have these pagan, Wiccan, whatever, cults working towards it. Then they also bring in sort of weird secret government departments who are sort of working to thwart them at the same time. It gets another layer on top. Because James I was working in the court of Elizabeth I.
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The successor to Elizabeth I, James I, who didn't like Elizabeth, also didn't like John Dee. And so James I, who quite famously set up a whole bunch of purges of witches in the UK, and was actually quite active in the whole witch hunting thing himself, basically wants to get rid of all the infrastructure John Dee has been working on.
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And so you get your witch finder general, and the witch purges, and witch hunter, witch trials, and the like. And as they're going through this process of creating an infrastructure to get rid of Dee's influence, a kind of quasi in those days government department emerges, which eventually gets called the Department of Works. And the Department of Works' entire reason for existence, according to Peck,
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is to prevent things like the Babylon working from ever occurring, on the notion that if the theory that the universe is but a dream of the Elder God Azathoth, then you don't want them waking Azathoth up via things like the Babylon working. So you have a long-ranging conspiracy to stop occult groups like this attempting rituals of this particular type,
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because there's a possibility that if they're right, then the world is going to end.
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I should point out, the one point of reference that Peck does make is that the only real evidence we have for the Department of Works is during World War II, when they were crucial in fighting Nazi occultism. Now, of course, Nazi occultism was a very big issue. Although we've talked about in previous episodes as well. Some more debate as to how big an issue it really was.
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So they were operating at least up until the late 40s.
Government Ritual Prevention Theory
00:28:08
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The claim in the podcast that they're actually still operating today and we don't want to give away the end of the podcast. You should go listen to the Whisperer in darkness. But there's some interesting links between Akeley's disappearance and exactly what the Department of Works or these days the Department is said to be up to.
00:28:33
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I think that's about the size of it really. So whereas we spent last week pretty much debunking the various claims about the Rendlesham incident and saying they can all be explained in fairly mundane terms, we then have this podcast. Mostly a lighthouse. Yep. We have this podcast which basically goes in the opposite direction and spins out. And quite a direction because we're going away from UFOs
00:28:59
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to something more like demonic entities. Reality altering elder gods. Now, admittedly, there's always been a branch of Fortiana and Ufology, which has gone the folkloric route and gone, well, UFOs are simply a
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scientific description of old phenomena. So basically your spectres, your witches and the like are now interpreted as alien beings zipping around in spaceships. And so there's always always been a branch of Fortiana which has gone well actually
00:29:34
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Tears in reality explain everything from lights in the sky to cryptids that crawl upon the land. But no, this is a most interesting hypothesis. Now, we're not going to pass judgement upon it. We should go away and listen to the whisper in darkness and form your own opinions. But the actual conspiracy part is kind of fascinating because it is vaguely plausible to think
00:30:01
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that as you moved from the pre-scientific era in the UK to the formation of things like the Royal Society and the like, which was filled with Isaac Newton, who practiced alchemy on the side, they can kind of see an attitude towards the supernatural being baked
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into institutions in the UK and maybe it's possible that there's an institution out there to this day that still takes claims like that seriously or at least doesn't take them seriously as in professors to believe them but takes them seriously enough to go if they were true then we probably should do something about them.
00:30:46
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That said though, this does seem to be one of those conspiracy theories that it sort of balloons, it just gets bigger and bigger the more they look at it. So you have this case of what they call the case of the whisperer in darkness ends up being related to the case of Charles Dexter Ward. And then they sort of end up bringing in other things. I think at the end they're talking about suggesting it's involved in the destruction of a town called Innsmouth as well, I think. Oh no, Dunnage.
00:31:14
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I've done it. Sorry, you've done it. In's Mouth is where the podcast is going, apparently. It's almost like it's trying to be one of those grand theory of everything type podcasts that just pulls all this weird supernatural stuff in together and then tries to explain it as the workings of one particular cult within a cult within a cult. There's layers of who exactly knows what and who's really aware with the true purpose of what they're doing and so on and so on and so on.
00:31:42
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It almost gets a little ungainly at times, but it's an interesting one. Well, yes, and that's actually a point that Peck makes in one of the episodes. She critiques conspiracy theories for this kind of accretion of data, making the theories bigger and bigger and thus harder to disprove. Now, we've talked about that particular move about conspiracy theories in past episodes. I don't think that's true of all conspiracy theories.
00:32:10
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It does seem true with this one, however. It does.
00:32:15
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So I think there you go. So a rival hypothesis, I guess.
Listener Engagement and Recommendations
00:32:20
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Rendleship is all about. So an interesting story. I definitely think you should go and listen to The Whisperer in Darkness. It's on BBC's series of podcasts. Yes, if you've got access to iPlayer, you can listen to it via that, or it's available via iTunes, Spotify, or any particular podcast app that you might decide to use.
00:32:42
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So, episode 250, eh? It's all over and done with. Now, normally at this point we announce what our patrons are going to hear about, but our patrons have a special secret episode coming up, and we're not going to reveal the content of that now. If you want to hear the patron bonus episode for this episode, or indeed any patron bonus episode for any episode that we produce,
00:33:11
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although there was a period of time where we weren't producing bonus episodes at all, so. But the ones we had produced. You get the idea, yes. Then you just subscribe to us for a dollar a month and you'll get access to all sorts of goodies and things behind the scenes. Yes, yes. And we recommend you do. Yes, we do. And yet we don't want to feel you're compelled to. We don't want to guilt you into it. Just saying, it's a thing you can do.
00:33:33
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And we will love you more because of it. That is a scientific fact, you know, tested by CSIRO. Probably. Yeah, I assume there's a test for that and they've done it and we came through with flying colors.
Next Episode Preview
00:33:47
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Yes. So next week is the last week of the month, which means it's a news episode. And boy, do we have the news for you. Oh, we've got so much news. I think we'll have to do a bit of pruning to be honest. I think we'll just.
00:33:59
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Or a bit of summarizing rather than going into some things. Well, actually, by this time next week, the impeachment's probably going to be over and on. Well, God, who the hell knows? Jesus, I don't know. We actually might be going, yeah, Trump news is over again. Yeah. So, join us next week for that. If conspiracy news is what you're into, or join us in two weeks, then we'll talk about something else.
00:34:20
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There's always something to talk about in the podcast's Guide to the Conspiracy, and with that, it's ToodlyPip from me, and it's PipplyTood from me, I guess. Episode 250, it's PipplyTood.
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250 episodes. I know, it's been what, five years of content? Yep, we've had our ups, we've had our downs. So, so many downs. Too many, really. But 250, well, we thought we would never get here. After all, we thought episode 113 would be the last. That was the episode just before you went to Bucharest, the first time. Indeed, but we, we persevered. Oh, that's my line.
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Well, that's the end of the 250th episode. We promised we'd only do one take from here on in and if we foul it up, we just put it online and we walk away. So join us next week when we foul up the intro to the news episode and don't record anything ever again. Excellent.