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"Banter, Brawls & Bravado: OG Edition" featuring Bayoan Malave, Clubber D the Combat G, Mike Wheby & Street Professor
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Transcript
Show Kickoff and Crew Introduction
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Peace with millions!
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release the flow Created by this mic pro Lights, camera, get low Action packed, back to back, in fact this monster will grow, y'all better let him know. Man with the master plan and you have no need to know. You can't prepare, now get ready for the show.
00:00:47
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Yes sir, yo, yo, yo, what up friends, ballin' buds back at it again. banter, brawls, and bravado, the OG edition. And you see, I got the crew with me today.
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Not sure. Y'all hear that? That's on you, buddy. I don't know why that's happening. and The video's not even on.
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fine What is that? That is nonsense. How did that happen?
Technical Mishaps and Humor
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how How's everybody doing? Better. How are you doing? Anyways, that's crazy.
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It's good to see you guys. Yeah.
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Go ahead, Bajo. Talk. My bad. didn't mean to step on It's good to see you guys again, man. What's been new? I'm excited to do another show with you guys.
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Oh, I see what happened here. Okay, I got it. I'm understanding. Okay. Jeez Louise. I had to go live on the video on Instagram, and it was playing through my headphones, and that's what I was hearing, but I thought it was the echo on here.
00:01:53
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Anyways, you know what it is. Ball and Buds, we're back at it again. i am Omar, the street professor Fonseca. I got my brother... Pajuan Malavey, maybe it's the other way. I don't know. They mirror your camera.
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He's with us today. ah my other brother, streamer partner in crime, Club of D, the combat G, and my other brother down on this side, and our MLB insider, Michael Weedy. What's good?
00:02:19
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So what happens is they they mirror your camera on this thing. So if you don't know that, they then you point the wrong way. It's like, well, what fuck?
00:02:30
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Anyways, either way, thanks for joining us tonight. We appreciate it. This is, again, make sure you put your kids to bed. This will be an explicit show, so we are not responsible for anything your kids may hear. but that'd be it that be Make sure you subscribe to Ballin' Buds, B-A-L-L-A-N-D, B-U-D-S on YouTube.
00:02:51
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And as well, hit that like button if you're watching now or on the replay. It helps us out in the algorithm, and it's free to you. So help us out. Cool? Smiling a lot.
00:03:04
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Smiling too much. Are you smiling too much? don't know what do hands. maybe not maybe not take so many gummies before you start the show. How about that?
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we What are we talking about today, man? Oh, man. just a bunch ah Just a bunch of BS today.
Boxing News and Jake Paul's Career
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let's say You know what? Let's just start it off with the biggest story of the day. um Let's go ahead and start it off on top. Actually, you know what? Let's start with a little. Let's ease it in a little bit.
00:03:37
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Let's start with the boxing news first, and then we'll ease into that. So this past weekend, Jake Paul had a fight with Julio Cesar Chavez. This is going to be a two-part story, y'all, anyways, so pay attention.
00:03:50
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ah The fight ended up who ah Jake Paul winning by decision, as some people will say, is rigged. We're going to go to our expert clubber D on this, but the announcers were hyping Jake Paul up as a future world champion after this fight.
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And then... After that, we find out today that Julio Cesar Chavez was actually deported by ICE.
00:04:17
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Now, I just found out information. Shout out Jimmy Adams runs Country Box down here. i was just on the phone with me. He told me the inside scoop. Apparently, allegedly what they're saying is that he has ties to the Sinaloa cartel.
00:04:32
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and also has been doing money laundering and drug running and gun running down in Mexico. Let's start with you, Clubber That's a whole lot to take in.
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ah First, maybe get should give us your your your Jake Paul thoughts, and then you can go on to Julio after that. Two things. First, I'll say... ah We're going use that allegedly word first. Please. Second, um I appreciate that. Did he want you to say that?
00:04:59
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But, hey, it's already out there now. oh I would say for Jake Paul, when I first saw the news, I thought his dad called ice on him for that performance. I thought his dad was like, I'm sick and tired of your ass. Get out of here and go back to Mexico. Stop embarrassing the name.
00:05:13
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Stop embarrassing our people. I'm sick of heights. Jake Paul, I said it when we were talking Skywalker and everybody that He's already called out some the champions in his weight class, around his weight class.
00:05:24
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The WBA already had him ranked. I think the WBC is going have him ranked. He was talking about Badu Jack and fighting Zordo for the belt. So the play is for him to fight for the belt pretty soon. I can see that.
00:05:36
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The Javante Davis fight was already on the was it was it was on the menu. Jake Paul was at the Javante Davis versus Roach fight, and i pretty sure they were going to fight. But, ah you know,
00:05:47
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Insider information. That draw happens, so, you know, it is what it is. But I think Jay Paul will fight our champion soon. He's already caught on AJ. He'll get his ass whooped, but I heard him say on Jackson podcast, you know, people want to see me get whooped, but I got to kind of build myself up to a certain point.
00:06:02
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Then he doesn't mind getting whooped. So that's the play. There you go. All right. And then also, what are your thoughts on the Julio Cesar Chavez incident today? Well, Dion, I have a question for you before we go. Oh, yeah, go ahead. There go.
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Is he going to fight like real fighters now? Like, in order to get to the championship fight, does he have to fight like real ranked fighters to get there? Or can he fight like me and Omar and get two W's and then get up?
00:06:30
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He's going get a W against me. Well, I think already they're're they're putting him in play to fight a real fighter. you know what I'm saying? Like, they're already having him ranked above people who've fought hard and amateurs no yeah Olympians and try to get ranked and he's already they put him up there because the division he's gonna be fighting in a cruiserweight to kind of a lackluster division there's no real eyes on it and um you know so say what you want about him I respect everything he's done for female boxing and for some of his sign fighters but him the way he's doing it nah bruh nah I can't I can't rock with that
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So he's going to have to fight real people. Yeah, he'll well fight real people soon. He will. I think once that happens, we're going to see a big difference in some of these win counts. oh yeah. He's knock the mayonnaise. Someone's going to knock the mayonnaise of his hair.
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You can't just get into the ring with Ali because you think you know how to box. um I don't know if if if you if you paid the number seven boxer cruiserweight in the world and you told him, you know, if he takes a fall, it's an extra $6 million. dollars Exactly.
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He might do it. I mean, there's a chance. He might be able to, the same way he's been getting one over on everybody else. you know Is there indeed a no knockout clause and he in these contracts?
Vince McMahon's Legal Troubles
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Uh... Could be, because Chavez, um i I mean, I don't speculate too much, but Chavez didn't really throw a punch to like the seventh or eighth round. He waited until the end of the fight kind do something.
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um He was just basically just, and I'm not going to say glorified sparring session. Tyson, when fought Tyson, Tyson gave his all for the first maybe two minutes, one minute, ah give him a round.
00:08:16
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And then his age kind of took over. i didn't really think Tyson, mean, I knew everything.
00:08:22
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You know, you got to look at talent the the level of talent he's fought. He's fought ah ah Jim John, the UPS driver. He's fought Tyron Woodley. Jim Yardin. Anderson Silva. You know what saying? He's fought. Damn. Every time my dog has to shake his head.
00:08:37
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oh Doing it again. He's fought nothing but people that are past their prime and from other sports. Mike Perry's from MMA also. So, you know, I would love to see him as a real boxer, even just a young amateur.
00:08:50
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Yeah, someone who's hungry. Mm-hmm. I mean, if we're going to pay for a gimmick, we might as well just throw Ryan Garcia in the ring with him. we We don't talk about racist cheaters, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's true. That's true.
00:09:02
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Accurate. In regards to the Julio Cesar Chavez thing, though, I mean, hopefully, you know, he doesn't have those kind of connections to the cartel and, you know, and he enjoys his freedom.
00:09:13
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Yeah, that's... Yeah, it's a thing you don't want to do when you're down in Mexico, obviously, is be involved with, now the cartels are the ones with all the power. So, technically, I guess if he needed to get off, they could probably get him off, but still something you probably don't want to be caused. Like, shit, wow.
00:09:32
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I'll say, cartel, please don't come get my friend for the alleged comments. Allegedly, allegedly anything you do cartel. This gets to anyone down in Sinaloa. There's a bottle right now talking to his general. I've seen Narcos. I've seen Narcos. I've seen Narcos. That season was crazy.
00:09:50
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By the end of this podcast, we're going see a black hood over your head and show your apartment. yeah You better call Tito Santana or somebody. shoot Yeah, you didn't know your next door neighbor was ah was a cartel incel. What is your favorite Narcos season before we move on?
00:10:08
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liberty oh first I mean I like them all um season to a pa Pedro Pascal was really good that's when he started going to New York or Jersey sort of bringing stuff over there um
00:10:26
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I feel like that's true. I might say, the that's hard to say. I like them all. Every single one, equally. They're all good, but I agree the original was, I mean, maybe because it was the original, but that original was just. I feel like we're about True Detective also. Like, they're all good seasons in their own way, but that first one just set the precedence. Second season, True Detective, let me down big time, because was five different stories in one. was a They were going to focus on two of the stories.
00:10:49
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it would have been a lot better to me. Like you had Vince Vaughn's arc, you had ah Colin Farrell's arc, you had ah ah the one cop who was gay but trying to hide that arc, and then you had the ah the one actress who I call stealing. I forgot her name, but you have four stories.
00:11:05
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ha Did you watch this yesterday? I watched that like 10 years ago. This is still a trap. This is still a trap. When it comes to shows, I'm telling you. That's why I didn't do anything embarrassing around Deion. He wasn't also doing himself.
00:11:21
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Stays up there. I know nothing good in life besides random shit. okay It's like my brother. My brother would say an obscure line from a movie or something or like obscure person from a Living Color skit.
00:11:36
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How do you remember that? I don't know. We just have that ability to remember certain shit. Nothing important, just random shit. Sounds Rain Man-y to me. It is. um um You call me Natsu Mike, I'll take it. Oh, shit.
00:11:52
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That's great. Oh, my God. um So, Baja, what were you saying about your thoughts on the Julio Cesar Chavez stuff? were Yeah, man, you know, as ah as an athlete, you know, and a boxer and a legacy, man, you just hope that, you know,
00:12:07
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people aren't doing things to tarnish that, you know, that legacy, that name, all that work that they put in. Just because you come from a place doesn't mean you have to, you know, engage with that element. I feel like that would be tantamount to like a kid growing up in Compton and not essentially joining the gang or something to this effect. that that's That's what life is like over there. Like,
00:12:25
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you get into boxing to get out of that kind of lifestyle and I have to be trapped in that. So hopefully he didn't
Sean Diddy Combs' Legal Issues
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get, you know, round back up inside. As the three of you know, and and the folks at home don't know again, go ahead and hit that subscribe button, like comment, share all that good stuff.
00:12:38
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But for those of you don't, don't really watch a lot of sports, you know, so I get to get on this show and more so the comedy relief, but I know a little bit of what's going on. I thought my two cents in there. I was raised rich. So, right. So there's no point for him to even, you know, be involved with that.
00:12:54
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Stupid. Yes, sir. Here, Bajo, there's that QR code right up there at the top. You can use that. Follow all of our social medias, YouTube and all that. Make sure you subscribe to Ball and Buds. Also, subscribe to Clubber D's new YouTube. How do people scan that if you're watching it their auto their phone? How do they scan that?
00:13:11
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Yeah, that you can't do. But if you're watching it on the TV. I was wondering if you print it out first. I already knew that. But if you're watching it on the TV or the or the laptop, you can. So it works. But yes, not on the phone.
00:13:23
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You know, hold your phone up to your friend's phone. They scan it. Then you scan it. Now, you could do that. You you could technically. now No one is watching this together. Somebody, two friends are watching this show together, and they have proof that they scanned that. watching it together. If someone's like, you know what? I'm not going to put it on the speaker. I'm just going to put my headphones on. You can't do it. You got to scan to get it.
00:13:43
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Hey, Sam Poof. Throw in the comments. Omar will give $20 of his dollars because I'm not. If somebody, two people are doing that randomly. Is it full couch? Is it like full couch sitting in the middle? Yeah, like a bonjo over Juan's house, you know. Man, okay, there's not a love seat over there, but.
00:14:01
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so I'm going sit in the middle so you look weird if you sit next to me on either side. or I get the whole couch. You probably don't do the buffer sheet at the movie theater. You probably sit right next to the person. I share armrests.
00:14:13
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I share armrests with you. He grabs the next urinal. My arm's going on top. There's a hole in your popcorn bag. What the hell? yo The old hole in the popcorn trick. No, but really, if you if you guys scan the QR code and you can send in the comments, prove that you did that, you'll get a Ballin' Buds t-shirt.
00:14:34
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Just send the size. We'll get that out to you. And you will also get made fun of for being watching this program with someone else. Like, I don't even expect anyone to do that. Not even a friend. I get it, but I'm just saying. Shout out Instagram. Your boy, Bajo, Tony Savage coming through. Shout shout out. Derek Clubb asks, is Chavez Jr. worse off than Jordan Sons? You're quicker. You got to slow down, Bajo. You got to let Omar get it.
00:15:00
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It's okay. Don't worry. i will It was just one comment on Instagram. Slow down. What do we got here? What do we think? ah No, because my my thing is, i believe Chavez was a world champion. Jordan's son never made to the NBA. So, um no. Ouch.
00:15:16
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That's very true. Never did make it to the NBA. chaviss son He's fought Canelo. He's fought where he's been on pay-per-views. He's been on that high stage. he just Sergio Martinez. I don't know. Was he world champion? I think he was. I don't know. He's definitely worse off. he's in a He's in like the back of a van right now going to the Everglades to get... maybe Yeah, he's on Fort Knox. Get He's going to tryingnna get sent to Venezuela or something. i i mean Yeah, he's way worse off.
00:15:42
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We're talking about it. He's not worse off. oh did you I thought you meant like... ruining the legacy my bad i thought was like like right now obviously yeah right now but i'm saying like having that last name and and living up to potential that's what thought that oh you know what i did i didn't think about it that way either that's what i thought it was i thought it was more thought they meant legacy wise too yeah right now not just the hikes mike that's completely right though mike thank you for yeah you' all you're right yeah but that's that's maybe the question like how can you like i thought it was so exactly so obvious ah do in respect In respect to Chavez Jr., and ah in the words of the great Martin Lawrence, I'll say, hasta la vista, Chavez to you! And Chavez to you! might be like bright side ah chavez juniorr he'll be He'll be safe in jail.
00:16:27
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don't think anyone's going to mess with him. Yeah, is allegedly involved with these alleged people we've been allegedly telling Thank you. appreciate you. If he's allegedly involved, he'll be hanging out in Club Feb.
00:16:42
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No more questions in the chat? Yeah, give us David. No, you're good. You can say it. It's okay. I'm just trying it i'm trying to type in. ah Give us the engagement guys at home.
00:16:57
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um sure that David's playing the worst legacy. and she he say He was just terrible. He just wasn't good.
00:17:09
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um Also, Shane Beecher, answer your phone because I texted you about the baseball stream next week. I texted you twice yesterday and today. You haven't texted me. Some people don't got reception. He did have a – I remember this kid. He did have he wasn't that – He was terrible.
00:17:25
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You mean former champion David Flair? I see him He was a former champion. he was a former world champion. Did he earn it? Did he earn it? Or was it? Whether that was the worst decision of Eric Bischoff's career is another. David Arquette was a WCW champion. Oh, this was a WCW decision. Okay. Yeah.
00:17:45
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That never would have happened in the WWF. No, no, no. Hell no. Hell no. Well, they gave it Vince McMahon, so. But we own the company. That's true. That's true.
00:17:56
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I mean, hey, speaking of Vince McMahon, that is a great segue. Vince McMahon, we have an update on the actual trial that he is going through. So let me bring up my notes here while I put this. Let the folks at home know what he's on trial for. Everyone doesn't watch wrestling or keep up with Vince McMahon.
00:18:14
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so No, I appreciate it. I've got all this paragraph here, so hang with me a second. This what was happening. Vince McMahon was originally ah sued by a woman named Janelle Grant. Vince McMahon, the former owner and former ah chief of WWE, w World Wrestling Entertainment, formerly WWF, World Wrestling Federation.
00:18:36
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ah The suit was filed in January 2024 and alleged that McMahon and John Laranitis, another defendant in the case at the time, sexually assaulted and trafficked her for years while Grant worked directly under Laranitis at the w WWE offices.
00:18:58
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What we have now found out a year and a half later after those charges were filed, after we've heard a lot of testimony, I'm not going to repeat the disgusting things that are alleged to have happened in this case. If you would like to go read the case, it is out there on the Internet. You would may Google it. It's public.
00:19:17
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But it is very disgusting, some of the things that they were doing to this woman, if true. So, again, allegedly these things were ah happening, and then just recently in the past month, there was an agreement on the back end with John Lerinitis and Janelle Grimm. Sorry, that was a bad one. On the back end, what were you saying? i shit Are you shitting on this story right now?
00:19:49
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Hmm. Shit on the story. I got that, Mike. I got that one. but i i promise no pun intended on that. But um
00:20:03
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anyway so hi stop we're right we're talking sure so went So there became an agreement came out with John Laranitis and the woman Janelle Grant. And now apparently but this agreement, John Laranitis is no longer part of the suit. Now, remember,
00:20:27
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When looking back at this suit, she worked under John Laranitis. So John Laranitis was the one that had most of the contact with her. So if these alleged events were to be true, then that means he was probably allegedly involved in a lot of them.
00:20:42
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And as well, Vince McMahon obviously being involved in, allegedly, all of them. Also, there was an NDA at one point in time. But unfortunately, Vince McMahon, being one of the richest people in the world, allegedly decided not to pay her for the final month and or something, final month or final year, and she decided to sue.
00:21:04
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If he would have paid her, she wouldn't have been able to say anything. Not that I'm saying that's right. ah Mike, let's start with you this time, brother. How do you feel about this case and now this being all on McMahon now? No more larynitis as a secondary duck to deflect any charges.
00:21:20
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I mean... I hope they – he's paid a lot of big price already, but he's going to have to pay again. He's he's not going to jail. I mean, he's going to just cut a gigantic check and get out of it.
00:21:34
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I mean, his wife's in the damn cabinet. So but there's 0% chance he goes to jail, and even if he does, nothing's going to happen him. He'll just get right out. they't They'll tell him to go to jail, and he'll get pardoned immediately. So – ah It's a lot of sound and fury, but you know I don't think anything's going to come out of this. Nothing's going to happen to him.
00:21:53
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So I think he knows that too. So um he's just going to do what wealthy people do, keep delaying, delaying, delaying, and he'll either die or die. Peel, peel, yep. Yep.
00:22:07
Speaker
Well, and that's a that's a great segue to what we're going to talk about right after this, which is the Sean Diddy Combs trial, right? Because he also, as we'll talk about, was able to get acquitted on most of the major charges. Bajo, what do you think about this story and about this guy who apparently was a major part of this sexual assault now being out of the ah lawsuit because of an agreement um that they came to, probably monetarily, I would assume?
00:22:32
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Well, i think I think, you know, the thing about settlements is this. is it proves to everyone that everyone has their price. o The million dollar man, I believe, said that one time. If you settle, you you have a price, right?
00:22:52
Speaker
So i should whatever that amount was, that young lady was willing to drop the case because that was enough to make her feel like what with those acts that that monetary amount was fair compensation, which which is sad. and Which is sad to think because I have stepdaughter and as you know someone with a daughter in their life, you hate to think that there are men out there that will do things to your a baby girl, whether they were complicit or not at the time.
00:23:21
Speaker
You know what I mean? Sometimes people go overboard. And I never understood why people with with a lot of money even needed to do such degenerative things. you know i would assume that there are plenty of people out there trying to get the bag that...
00:23:35
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that he could have just done things on a willy-nilly, you know, and just had his own fun, whatever well to whatever degree that is. But like like Mike said, you know, his wife being on the cabinet, and for those of you who don't know, she is the Secretary of Education for the United States of America.
00:23:52
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ah She's and she not very well educated. Pardon my French. don She is the Secretary of Education for our country. um I'll let you Google some of Stupid statements. Some of round tables or whatever, and I'll let you make that decision on your own. But it just goes to show that in this country, if you've got if you've got money, you've got power.
00:24:13
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She called it AIIA. i just wait In a hearing. In a federal hearing. You know what? i Go ahead. Go ahead, bud. I digress. I think it's disgusting what these men have done. i feel i feel bad for the young lady who really wanted nothing more than just to pursue her dream of being a professional wrestler.
00:24:29
Speaker
And if she just got tangled up in the nasty web. that is celebrity, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And we'll talk about that again with the, with the, uh, diddy thing here in a second club. What are your thoughts on this?
00:24:41
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Uh, I mean,
00:24:45
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it must be nice to not be in jail, I guess, Vince, you can just stay out and be okay. Right. Did he not have to go in for it? Like i like at least a couple of days or something. We got the complexion. Sometimes you'd be able to some certain things.
00:24:58
Speaker
Um, it's I know the report. I know exactly what was done. i read all that stuff or most of it. And beyond disgusting from Laurinaitis saying it's break time. Let's go into the break room and do something to um using the bathroom on somebody or that was the worst. Sending a picture of you doing number one to Brock Lesnar. I mean, for Brock Lesnar. It's just lot of disgusting acts. And, uh,
00:25:26
Speaker
I don't really think that's really going to affect Vince McMahon too much. He's already blacklisted as it is right now. But um the one thing that cures just about everything is time.
00:25:37
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And the longer this is not in the news and they finish things behind the scenes, the easier is for him maybe in two or three years, if he's in good health, to pop in the news for something, buy a studio, by do something. You know what i mean? So I'm sure he'll be a silent partner on some type of production pretty soon.
00:25:54
Speaker
Yeah, there was already rumors that he was trying to come back into the fold with TKO and WWE and all that or start his own ah wrestling organization. so um Look, i don't have I don't need to repeat anything the guys said. they They said everything. What I will say is that for Vince McMahon, I do want to go back to what Michael said, which was very important, is that now that Vince is the only person in the actual case, it looks like Bajo is a ghost.
00:26:21
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And she's the only one actually in the case anymore. He's going to have to pay that much more money in the end or that much more whatever it is that he, however they punish him, which again, yeah, not jail time, obviously, but however he gets punished, money, whatever else, it's going to be a lot more now that Laronitis is no longer.
00:26:42
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excuse me le in the Thank you. In the
Controversies and Celebrity Public Perception
00:26:45
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case. oh That's good. That's great. That's tremendous. um Anyway. you yesnes ah So we'll keep you updated on this we get more.
00:26:57
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If we shut up, if we we if we get any more updates on this. Cool. All right, let's move it into the Sean Diddy Combs trial. Sean Diddy Combs was convicted on two counts, but they were the lesser counts. So let's go back on what happened here.
00:27:17
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Sean Diddy Combs, eight months ago, his trial started for racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking, and prostitution. Five counts. He was found after weeks.
00:27:28
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I mean, explosive testimony. Explosive testimony that we heard from Cassie, who we obviously know was his ex-girlfriend, Cassie Ventura. We saw the video of him brutally beating her within the hotel. We talked about it on here.
00:27:43
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um we saw we We heard from another lady assistant who he dangled over a you know rooftop balcony. We heard from other assistants that he forced them to you know allegedly purchase ah you know, drugs or do other things for him, baby oil, all all these things.
00:28:00
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We heard from the male escort that was actually involved in the proceedings, the freak offs. What an apropos name for a male escort. I'm sorry, sir, but you picked the best name.
00:28:12
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ah and And pause on this, but I'm assuming you would have to be hung like a horse. But pause on that. So anyways, I'm just saying, like, if you put you in tuning, I'm just saying.
00:28:25
Speaker
ah I said pause. um So anyways, he was not convicted on the bigger charges of sex trafficking, of racketeering and conspiracy, which, on my shameless plug, on my show, The Professor Seminole Minta, I've been talking about that conspiracy racketeering is more of a business type of multiple people charge and that just because he's a nasty person having all these parties doesn't necessarily make him, means he's using a criminal enterprise. Either way,
00:28:56
Speaker
He gets off Rico. He gets off sex trafficking. He does get charged with two counts. One of ah prostitution. Well, but no, both were prostitution charges um relating to the two girls, Cassie and Jane Dill.
00:29:09
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Bajo, we'll start with you on this. What are your thoughts on this crazy trial? Oh, man. You know, my wife, you know, yeah you guys know Tracy. She's been keeping up with the Diddy. Like when she found out about the Diddy trial, she went down the rabbit hole.
00:29:21
Speaker
I mean, all the way down the rabbit hole. And, you know, was giving me the updates on the trial and things like this. So, you know, when I told her that, you know, Diddy was essentially getting off, because that's kind of what he's doing. like i mean, essentially, I mean, yeah. He's going to pay for his offenses, time served, like they said, and he he's going to be releasing a hit album.
00:29:43
Speaker
He's going to drop the video a week from tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, he's going to drop the album. It's going to have Amistad on the cover. It's going to say, give us free. And um who knows? Based on how people are celebrating outside the courthouse, it might go platinum. Y'all keep talking to me right back.
00:30:02
Speaker
With the whole Diddy thing, you know I was telling Tracy that it's wild because even Cassie shot herself in the foot saying that you know she went back for some of this stuff. So I go, at what point can you really say Well, it was wrong because if you if you go back for it, that's like, you know, you if you're in a domestic, a violent domestic relationship, but you won't leave the guy, in some cases the girl, it happens, then you're just asking for it.
00:30:29
Speaker
You know mean? It's coming to light now. And it's good that she's, you know, she's trying to set the record straight for any injustices to herself after the fact or any other young ladies that might've been involved.
00:30:41
Speaker
But that hallway beatdown was uncalled for. Like I would say of all things. She's going to power book deal. Someone's going to give her the bag for that book deal. Yeah. For that tell-all book deal, she is going to get paid on it. She already got paid twice.
00:30:56
Speaker
Her husband, though. like what Well, I'm going to jump in because I was reading a lot of stuff. This isn't going against. I'm not trying to be pro-puffy, pro-whatever. I'm just pro-faxing what the hell happened.
00:31:08
Speaker
If you really look at the case and what the hell they said, ah she's kind of like a co-conspirator, OK? you know, she arranged a lot of stuff. She oh was asking him, don't do it without me. they She even did it without him, ah stuff without him. You know what I'm saying? um I knew there was no sex trafficking. They were calling prostitutes, male prostitutes, to have sex with her, and he would watch and do some nasty stuff when they when they finished on her. But um a lot of the stuff, again, you know, when people have a a Curse or whatever over you you just do a lot of dumb shit. She did that when the whole kid cutty thing she was cheating on puffy the of the the ball player She was cheating on puffy and that stuff came in which which came into the court because Apparently kick how these car got blown up. So there's a lot of stuff where you know, I'm not saying you know, she Nothing none that stuff should ever happen to work.
00:31:58
Speaker
Well, we got we got to put all this in perspective She was with him doing this whole thing and um when she So they said that the reason why he did that in the hotel room, which doesn't justify anything, he has she had stole his phone and ran out into the whatever, and I don't know if she good folk should he have done that shit. Hell no.
00:32:16
Speaker
You know what i mean? But i thought it was just him being asshole, just wanting to beat her the hell up. You know what saying? But stealing a phone doesn't justify putting your hands on a woman, but... You know, that was just a volatile relationship just little like to me. And, um you know, she got paid by the hotel. She got 10 mil off that.
00:32:33
Speaker
She got she signed that in the or whatever and got 20, 30 mil off coffee. So, yeah, I knew he was going to get up. There was no racketeering. There's no sex trafficking. there not And not to be have sex. Well, it was and not to be insensitive.
00:32:48
Speaker
You know, and this may just be the comedian. That is not a good way to start any. That's not a good way. That's this sentence is going to be, Bajo. just Well, let me just say. write it out in your head and put a period on the end of it before you say This wouldn't have anything to do with, like, the trial or anything like this, right, or how she was treated or any of the freak-offs, right?
00:33:09
Speaker
I think I'm i'm most hurt.
00:33:13
Speaker
By how finding all this stuff out has changed my entire view and scope of the music that I grew up with. How so? That's where I'm at with it. Well, you know, we, we, at a time we all loved Puff.
00:33:26
Speaker
ah Excuse me? We, we did? and Well, I mean, Puff was putting out hits. We, we did? didn't love Puff, but Puff was putting he gave us Biggie. Well, you got to understand, if you want to keep it 100, Puff didn't testify against nobody.
00:33:40
Speaker
He remained silent. So all these all those people... Yes, he did. He didn't tell on nobody. He didn't tell on nobody in industry. So when he gets out, all those people he didn't tell on about it, hey, here's some money.
00:33:52
Speaker
Because he didn't snitch on not one person. He didn't take the stand. So got remember that, too. You can't snitch if you don't take the stand. he did Yeah, he refused to take the stand. Why would you stop incriminating yourself anyway? With the amount of evidence...
00:34:04
Speaker
and allegations and things like this. But again, it's just crazy to think how you got so much money And things still ain't good enough for you. Man, it takes more and more to get off on anything, man.
00:34:20
Speaker
If you if you the first time you drank two beers, you were on the floor, you know? It it just progresses. Everything is going to multiply.
00:34:30
Speaker
And yeah at some point in time, going to live that cup life to really feel it. So, I mean...
00:34:39
Speaker
This is a big man. He's always hated Puff. It will always take more and more and more and more and more of anything. I mean, I'm with Mike. I never liked Puff Daddy. I never liked his music. I didn't like him as a person.
00:34:53
Speaker
If it wasn't for him, you guys wouldn't got so... and Mary J, all them people. So let's... Sure, sure. No, that's... That's what I'm saying. Bad Boy Records gave us a try of hits. But that does not mean I like his music. No, his music was trash, but it wasn't for him. i can't say I hate him because it wasn't for him. but We got a lot of... No 12. Yeah, no... he's a He's a business mogul. Yeah. We we we get that. Hey,
00:35:17
Speaker
But in your readings, Dion, the they got over do they have to return all that baby oil? Does someone have to like package it up? and i would I would autograph and sell it. Yeah, when you get it back, just... Yo, I would autograph it and sell it. Yo, did they confiscate some baby oil?
00:35:34
Speaker
Is it evidence? Is it in the pocket somewhere? Baby oil. It's, I mean. You think Johnson and Johnson's is going endorse him? Like when they, when they went to his house, they're like, oh, he has baby oil. He has guns. It's his house. He can have whatever the fuck he wants to have it in his house. Who fucking cares? It's not illegal.
00:35:50
Speaker
It's not illegal to have guns. not illegal to have baby Or baby you oil. You know what I'm saying? Yes, it's weird. But it wasn't that. It was that the baby oil wasn't even baby oil. Apparently the baby oil was some kind of concoction that as you rubbed it on, it, as it seeped into your skin, it it affected you.
00:36:07
Speaker
It like drugged you. Yeah, look into it. It was some crazy wild shit like that. If it was something like that, he might be arrested on some illegal weird shit, unless that's legal. But yeah, I'm telling you, that the case gets weird, man.
00:36:19
Speaker
He said, let the let the baby oil sink into you. Feel the passion of Puff Daddy. the the But the the whole case is really. Take that. Who was the first one to hear that?
00:36:31
Speaker
Yeah. That's what I want to know. Probably Lil' Kim.
00:36:37
Speaker
Biggie, Biggie. He had some gay lyrics. Biggie had some gay lyrics. Yeah, Biggie did. He had some pause-worthy lyrics. I mean, it's, and Puffy was, they say he's behind the whole Tupac. But then find out some of our heroes were involved. Reginald Bell Johnson was involved. He was one of my, you know.
00:36:50
Speaker
Apparently so. He was black dad. You know, he was one of the black dads. That's wild. I mean, he was a dancer on Living Color before, so he's a backup dancer. He went to Hollywood up here. Let me just give y'all, because I do know the answer to this question, because they did, I read an article on it that when they actually went and did the investigation and found all the baby oil, they took pictures. So this is from the on the New York Times website.
00:37:16
Speaker
Check out the stashes of baby oil here. So that's just a little cigar car box. Nothing wrong with that one. Very classy. Very classy.
00:37:27
Speaker
Nice super door. Now what about this little drawer? What do you got here? um Let's keep it moving down. Those are all boxes of baby oil, sons. When you have matches, you have gazillion people over at free calls. You got to make sure you know everyone's not ashy. You can't have a um baby oil wrestling match. Can not be covered by G's comment?
00:37:47
Speaker
What did you say? Can not be covered by G's comment? Oh, shit. My bad. My bad. i was trying I was trying to show you. Well, you know I'm not looking at the pictures. You to let me know. I didn't know. Anyways, look at that. So you've got another cooler here of more baby oil and Astro Glide. So there you go. Someone's got one on there. Someone's got one name. There you go.
00:38:12
Speaker
So he had a lot of, ah obviously, a lot of baby oil going on in the house. so But yeah, there there was that. And yes, he did get off on the most on the biggest charges. So what they're saying now ah is the federal ah some federal prosecutors are...
00:38:32
Speaker
estimating anywhere from one and a half years to two and a half years at the most is probably what he's going to get. So the maximum on the two charges, because it's they're both called MAN Act violation, M-A-N-N Act. I know that's why i to spell it out because it's not man like man. But the MAN Act with two N's, probably somebody's name,
00:38:54
Speaker
um hes he That's violations of prostitution. So since he has two of those that he was convicted on, they each carry a 10-year charge, 20 years max. But the judge has said it's said that the judge is going to go lenient because he has no criminal record.
00:39:09
Speaker
First time. and Right. And so then they'll give him time served on top of it. So they'll only end up doing like one or two years of like a five-year kind of sentence sort of thing. I think he'll probably get less than that.
00:39:22
Speaker
He's going home. Yeah, he's coming home because first-time offender. He's going home no time whatsoever. He's going to serve at least a couple times. I think he'll be home before NFL starts. He'll be on parmention. He's already been in for like six months. Are the freak-offs over?
00:39:35
Speaker
Is my question. Huh? Are the freak-offs over? No. No. All people I didn't tell, all people, the That's going to be the biggest freak off yet. All those elites that he didn't tell on are just waiting. like, you know, they're going to tighten them with money. I'm telling you, him not snitching helped him out.
00:39:52
Speaker
Yeah, it was funny. I saw um little boozy coming out, like basically crying the other day. he's like, man, they're attacking our mob rules. And I'm like, the dude sexually assaulted and beat multiple people, dude. It's not like he didn't. But he's in jail. Where's Vince McMahon at?
00:40:07
Speaker
That's true. Where's the guy from Albuquerque and Finch at? So, like, yes, there's an issue right there with that stuff. It's pretty obvious. Sure. Oh, of course. We know there's discrepancy in race. That's not what talking But i'm talking about him just being like, oh.
00:40:18
Speaker
like Because he he did a lot for him. He didn't like or love, hate him or don't like him, whatever. I'm good. you know What he did for the culture is a little different. You know what I mean? He's an icon.
00:40:29
Speaker
Allegedly. Late 90s, 2000s. There's no Puffy. There's not a lot of stuff. so Allegedly, G. Allegedly, sir. Please. please know They can't prove that he got kissed. Comment your craziest Puffy factoid.
00:40:43
Speaker
Don't forget to subscribe. I thought Heavy died of a disease or something. Natural causes? Yeah. thought he had That's what they want you to think.
00:40:54
Speaker
You might be talking about Craig Mack. He died of disease, but him and Puff didn't get along. but heavy d i dont think heavy hes Black Rob's gone too. Black Rob's in jail. so dead He's dead. No, G-Dep got out of jail. Yeah, G-Dep got out of jail.
00:41:12
Speaker
where now i will say I will say that... Oh, he's out of jail too. um He just did an interview on CNN a few like a few months ago, i saw. But also I saw on CNN, Suge Knight called in from jail last night on the Laura Coates show.
00:41:26
Speaker
Suge Knight says he thinks that Puffy... now I have to say, and I'll get to this in a second, but he he was trying to give Puffy all kinds of advice, and now apparently because he's been in jail for so long, he's such a loving man. He's like, first of all, Puff, don't go do any drugs out there. Love your family. and I'm like, aren't we talking to Suge Knight who went out and like killed and beat a whole bunch of people allegedly? He got knocked out a partner before he went in.
00:41:52
Speaker
Yeah. so any change so People can change. oh say Okay, fine. Let's say he changed in jail. Fine. Whatever. um He says that Puffy's going to be out, and like like we have all said, back in the groove of things. Then I heard another girl on the same TV shows that said he's probably going to put out a single within the next year that'll be top 40 in the country because America doesn't care. know it's going to stream. You know it's going to Even for the sake of just hearing what is said in the song,
00:42:22
Speaker
it'll It'll be tantamount to the OJ if I did it book. You know what I mean? People are going to want to know what's going on. It's like... I'd give it one stream. It'd be like every Kanye West album that's come out in the last four years.
00:42:35
Speaker
The first interview is going to big. Wherever he goes for the interview, it's going really big. You know what I'm saying? It's a tell-all. Somebody's going to bring it for a book. Yep, tell-all. Yeah, he's going to... Like I say, he won't bounce back, but...
00:42:47
Speaker
People have come back from similar or worse. so In America, right. I mean, it's possible we we have seen people come back from, like you said. Little Robert Downey Jr. Man, if I was him, I would i would go out there and be Russell Simmons' next-door neighbor.
00:43:02
Speaker
Go Bali. Get out. Go away. just Or Kelly would have a harder time getting back in the form of M. Puffy. Now, I do want to ask this question because I wanted to ask it last time we were on because it it was very recent when I was up.
00:43:18
Speaker
i was at I was out at ah at a bar with some friends and a Kanye song came on. And know i asked somebody in the group, I was like, how do we feel? Can we, like, dance to this? Can I groove to this? Like, it was old Kanye, too. So was like graduate, kind like good Kanye.
00:43:33
Speaker
aside like crazy Aside from Kanye going crazy, why would we not listen to the music that crazy? don't care. he didn't do anything wrong He hasn't done anything wrong in my eyes. Has he not done anything wrong going out and tossing all this? He outfit. That's wrong to me i don't mind that's you That's wrong.
00:43:53
Speaker
yeah yeah that's That's wild shit, bro. But it's one of those things where it's like Kanye's always been on some off shit. And then at this point, you kind of wonder, well, what's it what was Kanye's message behind it That's what want to know. I want to know what's in his head. Where does that come from? That's what the message is, is that he's a Nazi.
00:44:16
Speaker
if it's old If it's old Kanye before he changed, because so if if you watch ever watch a documentary that's really good on Netflix, when his mom passed away, he kind of just went off the wall. And um prior to that, the music was good.
00:44:29
Speaker
Now, as far as listening to it his music his hits, Before he went batshit crazy. I don't care. I listen to it. I listen to, people still listen to Elvis. He married a 16-year-old, a 13-year-old girl, whatever. so But there was lot people like when Michael Jackson got arrested that stopped listening to his music. They're idiots. bad You never did anything. Yeah, never got never got arrested, never were convicted.
00:44:49
Speaker
R. Kelly, if it... R. Kelly, another one. still listen to it. If it comes on, I'm not going to say TP2 wasn't a good One of my favorites of all time. Tremendous. Tremendous CD. I don't care.
00:45:01
Speaker
So, I mean, whatever. It's like wrestling Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan, say Hulk Hogan's a racist. a racist you know I don't dislike Hulk Hogan, the character.
00:45:12
Speaker
Terry Buella, that's a different story. i that Anybody else have thoughts on that? I'm hypocritical on it. i Some stuff I can, some stuff I can't. I don't know.
00:45:23
Speaker
If I hear any kind of Kanye West song now, i'm like, pass. But I was the same way with R. Kelly, and now I'm I'll put 12 play on as soon as we get off this. Now you're back stepping in a name of love like nothing happened. Yeah, nothing ever happened, yeah. Same thing with Michael Jackson. I just not listen Michael Jackson now. I listen to Michael Jackson all the time. It doesn't bother me one bit. yeah James Brown did some of the most heinous shit you can think of.
00:45:47
Speaker
it never It never bothered me for some reason. after I don't know. ah I've got no no law on it. It just happened. Was it Chadwick Boseman's rendition of James Brown? though i never and everybody was amazing I never even saw that movie. I i heard it was good, but it's a good I know the story. and Whatever puff they put on James Brown for that movie, oh yeah plea live no i'm sure it was I'm sure it was something.
00:46:13
Speaker
Yeah, he didn't do too much foul shit in that movie that probably happened in real life. What's our next topic here, man? I'm over talking about puffs. No, no, no, that's fine. We can keep it moving. But speaking of Kanye, what about the way, and this is a really big topic in the media, not necessarily the way that he's acting, but the way that he treats his wife, parading his wife Bianca around.
00:46:37
Speaker
basically naked in public, even taking her to the Oscars and or whatever it was, Grammys or whatever, butt naked in front of all the cameras. A very controlling situation, it seems like.
00:46:50
Speaker
um Anybody have thoughts on on that this craziness, how he treats his wife? hey They got to be into it. They both got to be into some kind of exhibitionism. right to the degree to where she's okay flaunting it and or being dominated to do that.
00:47:07
Speaker
And he's got to psychologically get off on people seeing it and maybe knowing they can't have it, right? and Like you can look what you can't touch because that's mine. Do you parade your lady out like that? you know I would never do such a thing, but maybe it's just some kind of, you know there's a psychologist out there that's got the answer.
00:47:26
Speaker
I think a part of it, I think they both get off on it a little bit, knowing that they're they're calling attention to themselves without even having to say anything. You know what I mean? I mean, it's definitely something about control involved in there that is off. And maybe it's obviously mind control, whatever kind of control it is. But, go ahead. I think for me, I look it like, I think she's an ex-model.
00:47:52
Speaker
um And also... That's a grown-ass woman. I was going to say, thank She's okay with looking like being butt naked with a Pringles chip covering your heels. A Pringles?
00:48:06
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? You can't stop. That's on her. like is she she She must like that attention. um Or she could just wait 10 years and say she was under my control and hated Kanye. I was going to say, what if it's what what if it's some sort of, yeah. and i know We got our own Kanye trial in the making right now. And there's this shit we haven't heard about.
00:48:23
Speaker
Now, it does suck that he can't see his daughter, but his acts, the way he's acting right now, I see why Kim Kardashian doesn't want him to see the kids. ah that Yeah, she doesn't let him see the kids. But his actions aren't of a rational person, so I can understand that. Yeah, you're not reflecting fatherly behavior.
00:48:42
Speaker
Now, Mike, I had my my brother, the Lion Reese Penn, on from the rec room a couple weeks ago to talk some sports and entertainment. And he says he believes it's the curse of the Kardashian vagina that has caused ah Kanye to go crazy as it previously did Lamar Odom and others. How do you feel about that situation? I think all the rest of them are doing just fine. Lamar Odom did bounce back. He did bounce back, we must say.
00:49:10
Speaker
haven't where is I haven't heard from Lamar Odom in a long time. Is he? we sure he's not? Rashad McCants, he's won the game. ah Chris Humphreys seems to be fine.
00:49:21
Speaker
Chris Humphreys, yeah. Nothing going on there. Ray J, he's made lot money on those headphones. Who was the ah the basketball player, Blake Griffin? No, Chris Humphreys. okay I think he was with one of them. I don't know which one.
00:49:34
Speaker
Blake was with ah there he's no he's with the their their younger sister. Travis Barker's doing just fine. yeah book were forth to say it's like it It's like the Madden cover blitz. you know the The Madden curse.
00:49:48
Speaker
It's not real. Travis Barker's okay, but... i mean He looks like he's doing alright. They got a baby and everything. But he's not black, though. That's about, like, everyone's black guys. All the black guys are in the cataclysm of everyone.
00:50:01
Speaker
Pretty much. Travis Barker's done a lot of drugs in his life, so we'll just put him in his own category. like the states got He got in that plane accident, and it, like, burned all his tattoos off, and he just went back and got everything re-tattooed again. Shut up. For real? That happened?
00:50:16
Speaker
Yeah. Really? When he crashed, all his tattoos, like, burned off. And he just went back and got them all redone. His whole body. He got re-tattooed. Nope. I just let it go. I just let it go. i ain't doing all that again. Especially over we're like scarred skin too. Like burnt scarred skin. She's got some comments here.
00:50:33
Speaker
ah thank you, Bajo. appreciate you. I'm looking at my notes to see what we're going to next. appreciate that. Jim Jones thinking he's better than Nas Crazy Talk. I can't believe he would ever say something like that.
00:50:44
Speaker
um Also, did you see Jim Jones get kicked off the stage by Funk Flex the other day? Because no one... There were people falling asleep in the audience to his performance. Falling asleep in the audience.
00:50:57
Speaker
I mean, with the way the him at the back four between him and Shannon Sharp was funny. I mean, it's... We're in era people say anything just to say anything online. You know what i'm saying? That's why, Jim Jones, you have a a place in the whole hip-hop realm.
00:51:13
Speaker
It's just that when you're a speck, off a Saturn and another person's the whole sun, stay that spec and stay in your place, okay? Just orbit around Saturn. that saturdayturn That planet being Cam'ron, you're just a spec off Cam'ron, okay?
00:51:29
Speaker
Nas is the whole solar system away. he's's Right! We're in space, you're not where he's at. You're not even close to where he's at. You're an asteroid. You're an asteroid. You're in the game Asteroid. We hit.
00:51:41
Speaker
said yeah The delusion in Jim Jones is real because he's not in anyone's top 20. You know what I mean? Let alone top 20, top 50.
00:51:53
Speaker
He was on, what was he on? Drink Champs talking about name one Nas album. You could, you could play front to back without pausing or skipping a track. It's like name one your albums to where we don't skip a track.
00:52:06
Speaker
mria one shot He had one song, Ballin', and that was it All right, now he has some good features on camera and stuff. ah But nah, get out of here. First of all, Nas is one of most people would have him in their top five, top ten rappers of all time. Now, when you put Jim Jones up against that, help me out here. I don't even know where I'm going.
00:52:26
Speaker
Look, man, it's the second Jim Jones to die by drinking his own Kool-Aid. He cannot you can't even have that conversation, especially with Nas, because... Like, not even Nas is the only, like, legacy rapper that's been putting out just bangers for the last, like, 10 years.
00:52:44
Speaker
Like, still every album he's put out in the last, like, 15 years probably has been superb. From Life Is Good on, they've all been great. They've been different than they were then, but they've all been great.
00:52:56
Speaker
So, I don't know, man. it's I'm sure he did it just to get some pub and get people like us He never, him and Nas, they used to beef back in the day, back when Cameron was beefing with Nas. So Jim always, stay he's never really liked him.
00:53:11
Speaker
It'd be like me and me and Dion going to the gym and and me asking, you know, when Dion gets up off the bench press being like, just leave it. Don't don't take nothing off. I'm getting right on there. I can't even look at the bar, man. I'm just talking about it. the people at home, do not, do not go Google Jim Jones. Do not look him up. Don't give them the credit. It's not one you yeah worth the time.
00:53:31
Speaker
So, it's- Now, i do have a question here to parlay off of this. The classic New York rapper question, who do you have, Jay-Z or Nas? Whoever wants to start. I'm going Nas, bro. I'm going Nas just off the strength of the last 10 years. Just off. I mean, like the last seven albums he' he's put out of all been great.
00:53:51
Speaker
And Jay-Z's- Whoa, time out. Not at all. they yeah I think they have. And Jay-Z's released one album in like- Yeah, it's it's serious's really what you're in the mood for. Because it's it's hard to compare somebody who's active and not active.
00:54:02
Speaker
You know? That's the point. so um How about this? Let me rephrase this. Let me rephrase this. In their prime. Let me rephrase that. Jay-Z. Jay-Z. but Well, get the I mean, if we're going to go off record sales or whose tunes were hotter, we're going to probably have to say Jay-Z, but I'm going to take a lot of that credit away knowing he jacked so much of his lyrics. He jacked so many of his rhymes that some of his some of his hottest bars weren't even his. Actually, most almost all of his hottest bars weren't his.
00:54:31
Speaker
Shout out Jazz O. So it's like, who do you give give credit for? It's like, did you say oh look you're like the hottest ghostwriter alive? You know what mean? Or you're real artist.
00:54:43
Speaker
Okay. Jay-Z, you can listen to at any point and be okay. Nah, sometimes like I got to be the mood listen to Nas. that' i think I think Nas has like 10 really good albums.
00:54:58
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And I think Jay-Z's got like three. 10 really good albums? yeah Well, Nas has also released like 20 albums. shows yeah Yeah. he he's still he I Am wasn't that great. Stillmatic wasn't that great.
00:55:10
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still You think Stillmatic was not a really good album? I liked I Am. i I Am was good too. Godson was really good. Godson had two or three songs. And then All the magic, all three of those magic albums, all the ah Life is Good was fantastic, very underrated. There's there's a lot of really good albums in there. the magic The magic started to get me off track a little bit. King Aziz was good. these was That was good were good. But I mean, in my lifetime, reasonable doubt, ah Jay-Z's, his first four or five were were really good.
00:55:44
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um Show Me What You Got, that was terrible. That CD was on. Blueprint 2 is that one, I think.
00:55:51
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was blue that was that was those was a good good we tell That was the one with the Dale Earnhardt video. Yeah, that was terrible. That was Kingdom Come. Yeah, jason keep these album of fire yeah dead King's Disease, that they were.
00:56:03
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But Jay-Z had like five, six great albums in a row, and Kingdom Come, Trash, and then... ah That 444 was really good. That one was really good. Really good. you know that Was that the last album that came out with it?
00:56:16
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That was the last one. 15 years ago. years ago? I'll still put as two Jay-Z's because I know... You know, I need a whiteboard. i need an Excel spreadsheet.
00:56:28
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We've got to get some surveys. The next Ballers, Brant, and Bravado is going to be basically just Mike breaking down. by nasis people I like it. I want that in my life. I just don't see it. And also, Jay-Z won the war because who started working for who?
00:56:43
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Mike's going to end up like so in conclusion. Jay-Z wins. Who worked for who at the end? At the end of their beef, who worked for who?
00:56:53
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and editor beef who worked for who I mean, I don't know that that necessarily says you're a better artist. I just think that means that is big. But I don't know that that makes you the better artist, per se. That is big, though. Having control of the company that an artist is under doesn't necessarily make them a better MC.
00:57:09
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I mean, this one just on stage Jay-Z is not a subpar MC. He's not an average MC. He's way above average MC. and no one's saying that It's just that they do different types of music. The only similar Nas album Jay-Z's had is that 444 album, which is similar to what Nas would do.
00:57:27
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And then now King's Disease is something similar to what Jay-Z would do. So it's just different. It's hard to compare like this. Okay, like me and Omar and a couple other homeboys are talking about this.
00:57:38
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Me, my boy Lil Shane, and Kevin will talk about this.
00:57:42
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Mobb Deep versus Outkast. Stop it. Some people say Outkast. Stop it. Some people say Mobb Deep. You see Outkast? The Cadillac right there behind me. I should say the same thing, Mike. I said there's no doubt that it's Alcalf. A lot of people say Mob. like Mob.
00:57:58
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i I like Mob has more classic historical beats. that straight hip-hop. Mobb Deep's Mobb Deep's Shook On Part 2 was voted the best hip-hop instrumental of all time.
00:58:12
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Okay, they did have really great beats, but Outkast had good songs. They had two great albums. Outkast has like six more albums. I don't know about that. I did not like the last one. I did not like the last one.
00:58:24
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I did not like the last one. There were zero misses. Mobb Deep, the only Mobb Deep joint I didn't like was the one with GU. I did not like that at all. you were You were down with G's and out, Harold. That was your stuff right there? Hey, hey, hey. It wasn't bad. They were like 16. It was bad. They were like 16. was bad. It's OK. They were like 16. They were like 16. I'm not mad at them. I'm just saying that you can't.
00:58:48
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Outkast is a group Mount Rushmore. they They won the Album of the Year Grammy, like the big one. Yeah, but that Grammys don't mean nothing. that that's That's subjective. Puffy not know be hoy one of grammy so don't don't say that.
00:59:02
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He didn't win the Album of the Year Grammy. He didn't win the Big Grammy. Which one Puffy win? i don't why Like I said, I hate Puffy. Exactly, so but he won one. Why would I pay attention to that? G says, man, Tupac called the mob sleep.
00:59:18
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You've got to say it the way he says it if you're going to do the comments, OK, Bajo? I need you to be more animated. you're a voice You're a voiceover artist. I need you to be better with that. Come on. I can't do this. Hey, Tupac called a mob sleep. That's what you do. Something like that. Be more animated.
00:59:32
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Anyways, let me get a couple more G comments in here, but I do have ah another topic real quick. She's a willing partner, I'm sure. Obviously, that was referring to our earlier um conversation about Kanye and Bianca.
00:59:43
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ah The football player, what was his name that dated the Kardashians? Mm-mm. Reggie Bush. He was the OG. He's actually doing okay. He's got foundations. He's building schools. He's actually, I think, the one that got away.
01:00:00
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Yep. And he got his Heisman back. So he's really doing it. Yeah. He also says tra Lunchbox Larry. Shout out. We love you, Larry. Travis Barker was in a plane crash. Repeat a saying similar to Mike. So he's immune from the curse.
01:00:15
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GS, who is hotter comic now? Josh Johnson or Ali Sadiq? I'm not sure who's Josh Johnson. Josh Johnson is the one on The Daily Show. He's the light-skinned guy that's kind of soft-spoken, but very clever. I'm not a big fan of Ali Sadiq. I think he's okay I don't think he's that funny.
01:00:33
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Yeah. He's not terrible. I know he Not for me. I like his the next thing. I find out that a lot of comics are really gimmicky, man. Yeah. Nobody's really got great material. They just have like a certain way that they deliver it.
01:00:49
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And it's like, oh, well, there's the draw. That's a dude that does the fucking auto-tune, right? Who's that? Ali Sadiq. He just goes in the crowd, does crowd work and shit, and just... You know, I've actually... i'm I've never watched any of his stuff. I've heard of him. He's but He has a good t good skit on ah ah wearing boots and fighting Mexicans in jail. if That was pretty He's straight crowd work. I mean, not to take nothing off him, but... He's funny, but... <unk> like I haven't heard any material. It's all crowd work.
01:01:17
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I like Josh Johnson a lot, but he's also more... he's He's very, you have to get used to him. He's like an acquired taste kind of. So he's on The Daily Show, which means obviously he works with a bunch of other coworkers who are mostly Caucasian.
01:01:32
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So um him being the only black person on the show has to tiptoe the line of race kind of. So he kind of tries to play it like maybe like some of the black people have it on Saturday Night Live before, stuff gets old kind of, I guess. going to go right into that. going to square peg, square hole that one and be like, this Caucasian loves Josh Johnson. So. I went and saw him like two months ago. i think he's great.
01:01:54
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I've never heard of him. Shout out my brother. Paggio, you act like I don't know these things. she Oh, heard that. um He said, we need a new version of Paul Mooney. Shout out our brother. That's true. We do.
01:02:10
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Now the cancel culture is over. We do. We do. Now that cancel culture is over. skipped his last comment, man. Scoot on barbecue. No, I'm going to go back to it, but this was relevant because of the comedy talk.
01:02:24
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I wonder, Baj, I'm going to ask you, what comedians got canceled other than Chris D'Elia? You know, Chris D'Elia is actually back out here. don't think it's very funny. What comedian got canceled? I always hear comedians talking about cancel culture, ruin comedy, but what comedian... Cancel culture hasn't ruined comedy, but but what it did do...
01:02:44
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From a comedic standpoint, it had your had you writing material like you had to walk on eggshells because you didn't want to offend people. Like, now, I think the only thing you really can't speak on... thanks, man.
01:03:00
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Hey, Trace. Hey, Trace! don't know why yelled like that. We want to hear from her, man. Get him out of here. Get her in. Don't try to team up with gingers. how you it had us right material, like we like we couldn't just say almost anything. nothing You know, and that feels good again. And it's kind of just like when Louis C.K. came back, despite his perversions, that's when we knew, okay, they tried to cancel the white guy, white Jew was Jew, and he came back.
01:03:32
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We're good. Speaking of gingers, I don't even know why they came. I understand what he did. And just like, ah what's his name with the show I loved? Not me or my damn self. cur Curb your enthusiasm.
01:03:43
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no, no. Besides that, ah it was on it was on Netflix. That canceled on its own. I'm talking about um it was on Netflix. Master of None, the Indian guy. um Oh, Aziz. Aziz. Oh, Aziz. They canceled him also. And that Master None show. Who cancel for?
01:03:58
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He did something with these chicks. Not like Louis C.K. where he whacked his stuff, but he did something. At least Louis asked. He gave a warning, too. He's like, I'm about to beat this meat. Hey, yo, I know what you want. I'm about to beat this meat right here.
01:04:13
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I'm about to kabage. I'm about to kabage your sauces. You can watch. You can go to another room. You can
Comedic Takes on Legal and Celebrity Issues
01:04:19
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get a face guard. Whatever you want to do, but I'm about to do this. Respect to him. Respect to him. Respect to Louis C.K.
01:04:25
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And then, you know, he wrote one of the most banger jokes about it. You know, he said something to the degree of, you know, one of the things about having perversions is that they're personal.
01:04:38
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He's like, everybody knows my thing now. it's I like to jerk off in front of people. Like, it's not even a secret anymore. Well, that's that's the thing. like Like, growing up, like, ah when I was talking to Lamar, um,
01:04:50
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When it comes to joning and stuff, when we when we grew up and we're cutting up on each other, if you can say the best shit about yourself, what regardless of anyone says around you, it's not going to affect you. If you know your hairline's jacked up, if you know your teeth are crooked, if you know your breath's sting, joke about that internally or externally, and then they will say something won't hurt.
01:05:09
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So that that's how I used to cut up on motherfuckers, because ah if I knew my shit was fucked up, but whatever you say is not going affect me. But I got 10 more things on you that you don't even know. Look at these chalkboard erasers right here.
01:05:21
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but Those are two caterpillars just hanging out. Two caterpillars in the summer. No orange stripe down the middle. Like two bearskin rugs. I know what time it is up here. Look at the badger's nest. um let's get Let's get to some comments here real quick. We'll get the Instagram comments.
01:05:36
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ah Tony Savage still tapping in. We really appreciate you, brother. The governor always... ah um but yeah I'm sorry. Okay. wo My bad, Tony. I don't check Instagram while I'm on.
01:05:47
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This is going back to the Diddy case. He said the government always, always does injustices in these sexual assault Me Too cases. ah So that could have been actually the Vince McMahon case.
01:05:59
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And then he said r Kelly isn't guilty either. So Tony Savage does not think R. Kelly is guilty. That's a tough one. I wasn't there. Wait, what was R. Kelly charged with? Oh. Peeing on a 15-year-old girl. Colt-like stuff with the women, Colt-like.
01:06:14
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He was not charged for peeing on women. He was charged for having a relationship with like a 14-year-old for a long time. whichkin laugh earth it was wild, bro.
01:06:25
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He had the relationship with Aaliyah in public anyway. But it wasn't her. It was somebody else. but Oh, yeah. there there were There were multiple women. right i love I love how he's actually going to get her. That's fantastic.
01:06:38
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Champ, we're going to get back to your comment in a second on this because i go I'm going back to hip hop after this. He said, let's see what Tracy has to say about Puffy.
01:06:48
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is she Is she coming to get her opinion? I called her out. OK. All right. Is she going to be a ghost like you? Come on, Tracy. Jump on.
01:06:58
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jabo Oh, I'm mad. I'm so mad. Ginger takeover. Don't let him back in Get him out here. Yes! Ginger takeover.
01:07:11
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Tracy, we love You got any gingers at the house, Dion? No, Bronson shit's red, though. Calling all gingers. Write, comment, and subscribe if you like gingers.
01:07:24
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but we're unmit Tracy, give us your thoughts on this whole Diddy case. man if you have enough money you can do whatever the hell you want that's what i have seduced by all of this he paid somebody off either that or they're just as sick as him and they're in all the videos and don't want to be exposed it's one of the two or both because there's no other excuse like this is this is just bullshit at this point anything videos back to him What's up?
01:07:53
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Do they give the videos back to him? Wow.
01:08:00
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i We keep it in wash later. There's a little gray going on right here on it. Somebody's whacking. Somebody's whacking to themselves. his video. He owns that video. That's his video. That's his spank thing? They were there. Why are they whacking off to the video, Dion?
01:08:13
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They were there. He didn't tell. He didn't snitch on the body. He didn't take the story. No, I'm saying the people that you're claiming to be whacking off to the videos were there. No, no, no. talking about the police when they have to review those videos.
01:08:23
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They're playing target practice on the monitor. Those videos are coming out. I got it. you know They're coming out. Those videos are they're going to be available. Oh, oh my God. If they're not on the dark way. yeah well the The hotel video was like seven years old and he paid 50 G's to that person to race it, but they still you knowm saying released that thing. That's why she Cassie got 10 million from that hotel, ah whatever company that is.
01:08:48
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Bajo, we're going to need you to get a green screen if going to use these fake backgrounds. We know that that's not your house, first of all. But now because Tracy looks like a ghost. She's just pale. That's just because he's pale. No, she keeps disappearing. I'm glittering like this.
01:09:02
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Hold on. Hold on. oh It's because you don't have a green screen and you're using the background. That's why. Anyways, um so Tracy, do do you think he's going to serve any jail time at all? there's Some are saying to a year and half to two years. Some people are saying no, not at all.
01:09:17
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i don't think ah I don't think he will at all. I think they're gonna say, hey, time served. You did your time. Yeah. I concur. Yeah. How do you think the women are- And then we didn't even get a perp walk. And then he's just, like, he's gonna get a free walk. Like, that's- Yeah, we didn't even get a perp walk. But he's gonna, be you're gonna see the free walk, I bet. Like, when they release him, oh, it's gonna be televised everywhere.
01:09:41
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Which is bullshit. Where's my perp walk? Hey. Agreed. You guys leave Puffy alone. He's going to go out the court. He's going to do a little shimmy shimmy. Deon. You leave Puff alone.
01:09:52
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Deon, you were in them videos. That's right. I was. I was. I was there. I was there. you got You thought the Punisher was something. i was the executioner when they called me here.
01:10:05
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And you were practicing your shots. I was, I was, hey, he, whatever he used, what I let, let out, that's on him. I guess I rubbed that somewhere. Whatever, bro, we know you're wearing hair. You're too dry. You don't have baby oil dripping from you.
01:10:17
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youre I've seen your elbows in your hands. I'm not asking. Whoa! Time out, time out, time out. I will talk about some zombie feet if you want to go there, okay? You know, you know who the hell I'm talking about. Those my kids.
01:10:28
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Those are my kids.
01:10:31
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I haven't seen talents like that since i seen a bandjacks of Kramer going upstream. We still tell Khloe about her creepy callers because of you. Oh, yeah. The things, he had the little claws out. Hey, whoa.
01:10:42
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Man. I've never seen Toadstole gang signs while wrestling. I've never seen that before. Like, I know she was a Crip, Lutter, GD. I just didn't know. I got nervous. Well, now the new thing is g grippers. Now they're called grippers, apparently. That's what my nephew taught all these kids around here. Now they're calling all their feet g grippers.
01:10:59
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What the hell they're gripping on. Newsflash, I hate feet. i hate feet. I hate all feet. I just don't like feet going near me. i s sp You couldn't pay me suck someone's toes. Couldn't do it Okay, ducks or feet? Which one is it? You can't have them.
01:11:12
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Both? No. i don't care if it's Beyonce. I will not touch her feet. Won't do it. Good to know. Not the zombie feet, says G. Not the zombie feet.
01:11:24
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but She had walker feet, man. it was crazy. Walker feet. said they'd be on Pornhub. What, the videos? The videos. Yeah, the but the puffy videos. Yeah. In VA, you can't get on Pornhub in VA. I was about to say, now, Bajo, how do you know that? you know?
01:11:37
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That was my favorite journey.
01:11:41
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Can't get on Pornhub in VA? a You can't. You you can't. Now they got these, are your 18 restrictions like You can, but you have to like scan your your driver's seat. What's wrong with that? What could go wrong? i don't be worried you know why did you want to like How add do know? are not no v hey look here maybe some people use other sites for that you live that clean lifestyle now okay yeah i would escalate
01:12:12
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snow white yes i would never do that i would never ah You know look on the site. I've never go to all a different site. I would never get a VPN. would I get a VPN?
01:12:23
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I never heard of it. I don't like he is a boy. He's really on. No, no. I feed finders the thing. I hate it. It is.
01:12:34
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I truly hate feet with a passion. I about to be some of i trust i so i can't stay in feet. Like it's you walk on them. They're dirty. And the fact that some women want you to rub them, nah, nah, nah, get them things on the ground. What about your dog's feet? Trey likes hot sauce on them.
01:12:49
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and first of all First of all, he has paws, not feet. He has paws. Okay. I don't touch those either. Doggy daddy. i dont and I would like to say, now I don't know this for sure because I've never perused any of these kinds of sites.
01:13:06
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but I hear that poo that if you cannot get onto Pee Hub, you try a little Pee Movies here, and that might get you to where you need to go. But i don't know. It's just something I heard.
01:13:18
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I don't look at those things. Larry might be onto to something. ah Larry, Dion still uses... mag Maybe. I subscribe to Maxim.
01:13:32
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So what? Can we... What was the Al Bundy magazine? What was the Al Bundy magazine? Oh! Look, I still at... Let me look it up. Black Tales?
01:13:49
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i I still have all the... I thought you just called them the nudie mags. When we went to Vegas. there was ah there was Black Tails was one. um Maxim was like the just the swimsuits. Damn, what's another joint?
01:14:03
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um Whatever Pinky was in back in the day. Back in that, used to rock the Velour sweatsuits. we you know what I'm talking about. The Fat Farm Joints. Yo, the name of Al Bundy's favorite porn magazine was called Biggins.
01:14:15
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Biggins? Biggins! I'll take that, too. Come on down. big illness Shout out to Rock Chalk, True Crime. Thank you for joining. Lunchbox Larry. Rock Chalk, she is spitting out those videos, man.
01:14:29
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champ ross rageous She saw who they was. She's a Travis arrested by ice. We'll talk about that in just a second. Waiting for him. Puffy just get out. So it's going to be like old times. We'll see what happens there. And yeah, shout out.
01:14:43
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I have one last joke. Yeah, go ahead. About the big girls. You know, I'm stealing it from the the league. You know, they used to call me the herder. Yeah, yeah. anyone
01:14:56
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yeah I know exactly what episode. you Yeah, yeah.
01:15:05
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Tonight's episode of Ballin' Buds is brought to you by beer. Beer. And Biggins Magazine. And Biggins. You called them girls coming down the street. You called them girls coming down the street. Are you here?
01:15:17
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Peach, if you comment one more time on this stream without answering my text message, I swear. I swear you didn't text me talking to your chat. I swear you didn't text me talking to your chat. This is the biggest laugh in the face. Like, I'm going to talk to you here for year. It don't work sometimes. It don't work. It don't work. I'm literally like, I know I texted you. Just anyways.
01:15:39
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Chip Ross says, D is looking behind the counter at 7-Eleven on the bottom left. Not the bottom. Yeah, I Can I get that? you know they They know me at 7-Eleven, these parts. okay so yeah Shout out to our peoples.
01:15:55
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01:16:17
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I don't suggest that you give her this channel then. Yeah, don't follow that channel. but totally follow channel But I do want everybody to follow Rock Chalk. If you do like True Crime, it's a tremendous shout out. They always support the channel here as well down in Australia. Show people with the neckbeard. What is Starling?
01:16:34
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Is that an app or something? What is that? it's biggest Elon Musk's internet satellites. Does he have a monopoly down there or something with the internet?
01:16:46
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That would be a shame. I have no idea. where Uh, champ, remember them liquor stores that the video section in the back and you had to walk through the chimes for everybody? Oh, yeah. They used to have a store. The video store.
01:16:59
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taetss By Tackett's Bajo, where you could walk in and then at the back they head the the duty section and, uh, you know,
01:17:07
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How old? At what age? Because there was an age where I got, where I had no shame. If I was going to buy a new porno flick, it's not like I would even walk around and pretend I was looking at other movies. Go to NBC. Go to NBC.
01:17:20
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Manassas Video. Video. monasss video Is that what that stood for? No, no. No, that's what it stood for. The Manassas Video Club. I never knew that My brother used to work there. my brother used to work there. He used to. That's right. Yeah, he did used to work there. Yeah, it was like when I used to, i had to go to the school to get my degree. All right, Mike. And we had to, ah I used to walk up to the one and in Dumfries and See, Mike was working there.
01:17:50
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And I walked in there. And it was like one of weird things when you see someone's dad up in there. He's like, what are you doing here? What are you doing here? what my' death What are you doing here? What are you doing here? Like, what? You got to put that shit in the black bag. Yeah.
01:18:03
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We what's in that black bag. like mike Mike told some ah funny stories about how when he worked there, someone tried to return like a dodo one time. And I was like, you can't trade his back open. Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Did he work on the one that was on Route 1? Yeah, yeah. He worked on that one. Yeah.
01:18:18
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There's two. two one There's three on Route 1, but yeah. Because my brother worked at the mall, so. But yeah, it's... I used to go there every time on my break. i used to walk up in there and talk to him. Funny stuff.
01:18:28
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lot comedy. Oh, boy. Because the characters that would walk up in there. Jesus. let's see what we got here. We got some ah more comments from Bianca. Shout out. Hey, how you doing? Bianca, we appreciate you tapping in. She's part of the Rock Chalk crew. she's taught She's part of the True Crime ah ah pod.
01:18:48
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um G says it's Elon's internet, referring to Starlink. Yep, so it's its internet services. Mike was saying. ah Rock Chalk says T-Mobile had it for free. I did not know that. Interesting. my mom had team mobile G says not taking it back to Tackett's Mill. Yeah. The old Tackett's Millie, where Clubber D still likes to attend all the time.
01:19:07
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ah Let's see. There's a Mexican restaurant down there, Dion. They're Hector's, yeah. They got a cigar spot right next to the Black Olin joint. I went there one time with my uncle, and the the people people taking our...
01:19:19
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Our order 1000% knew like seven English words. Oh, yeah. Oh, you were like, oh, yes, this is the place frozen margaritas are fire. boom My homegirl Sarah, we go there sometimes.
01:19:30
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That's the spot right there. Hector's right in the water. sort of Like if you walk into the Chinese joint and you see the little kids doing the homework, you know, the food slaps. yeah Oh, yeah. and don If they're the ones taking their the money at the register, you damn ski doing that real child labor law shit.
01:19:46
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That's how it is here, man. I'm not going to name the Chinese joint, but if you come up a new one, make a right, and then make a left. By food line? Hey! Hey! It's always an Asian joint by a food buy food line.
01:19:58
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Yep. Especially down there.
01:20:04
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Bianca, shout out. We love to support people here on the podcast. What kind of music do you do? Yeah, it on here. Put it on here. We'll... we People need to support this channel. Yes. Let us know.
01:20:16
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Throw it in the chat. Yep. Now you need a new theme now. Yeah, there you go Rock Shock, new theme. Let's get it going. right. So before we get out of here, Mike does have to leave and I have to actually um go take care of some business myself.
01:20:30
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I do have one question I want to ask before we get out of here to go back to where we were earlier. as Champ Ross was talking about um to bring it all back to full circle when he said Outkast skewed on the Barbie.
Hip-Hop Discussions and Industry Critique
01:20:42
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I would like to know, because me and Clubber D were talking about this on our stream the other day, and I just want to get y'all's thoughts and Clubber D can add to his, top hip-hop MCs of all time.
01:20:54
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Now, I'm talking lyricists. I'm not talking like Lil Wayne. A lot of people like to say Lil Wayne is like a good rapper or whatever. I'm talking lyricists. Top five hip-hop MCs.
01:21:05
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That's going to be subjective, man. Everybody's got different favorites. course. I know. That's why I want yours. And then, Mike, I'm not asking you to have the same. we don't have the consensus on it. All right. Let's go with Weeby first.
01:21:16
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ah Top of my head. Top five. My favorite rapper, Feral Monch, is my number one rapper. He's my favorite. I'm like one of five people on the planet, but that's my guy. Feral Monch.
01:21:28
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What was Feral Monch's best song? There's a song called PTSD off the Post Traumatic Stress ah Disorder album that's phenomenal. um there's they're They're almost all good. There's almost there's no whack lyric at all. There's no bad verse.
01:21:43
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I do love Pharaoh. A girl monster kind of hit. So Pharaoh, Kendrick. I've been a Kendrick dude since day one. Got to put... got put Pac and Nas and Jimmy. Time out, time out, time out, time out, time out. I hate to jump in.
01:22:02
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when When we do this hip hop list, can we just like say, all right, current or not current?
01:22:09
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because everyone's gonna say kind of cliche yeah yeah If you're saying cliche now, right now. like How many real hip-hop artists are there now anyways? A lot, there's a lot. is's a lot There's a lot right now. It's just, do you listen to Underground or do you not listen to Underground? I don't listen to drill rap and that's kind of big. that young I couldn't tell you one Young Dirk song, but I know other people like Benny the Butcher.
01:22:31
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But he's not a little bit more their lyricist. You know, Rome Streets, you got a Mayhem Lorraine. You got rock Marciano. You got a lot of people that aren't on the radio that are big. So it's like when you say, what's the best artist? Are you just doing Clay Shade shit or current shit? That's where I'm kind of wondering.
01:22:47
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I think it would just be like each person's top five, regardless of time. Okay. Yeah, i don't I don't think it really matters. And to me, to be completely honest, I'll answer Clubber D's question. I don't listen to that music either, so I wouldn't know who any of those people are.
01:23:03
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And I really don't listen to many hip-hop artists outside of the ones that that we've mentioned. Mike mentioned Kendrick. Clubber D mentioned Griselda. um you know Other than that, maybe Cole, maybe a couple of other underground rockers. I know someone said earlier, Rome Streets.
01:23:21
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ah he's He's pretty good. I like him. But like for the most part... I mean, if it were me, I'll give you. Go ahead, Mike. Finish your list. before No, that was my five. I gave my five. Okay, cool, cool, cool. G shouts out with Black Thought.
01:23:33
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um So I'll go ahead, Bajo. Go ahead. Is he in your top five? What you got? Black black Thought is in my top five. um Also my top five. I'm a huge Keith Murray fan.
01:23:44
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I know it goes back, but I love Keith Murray's ah The Most Beautifulest Thing in the World album. That was dope, and the self-titled song was dope, too. um I like methods Method Man's rhyme style. I don't think he's ever disappointed.
01:23:59
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He's still got to me. Love Method.
01:24:05
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Man, as a collective, I was a big fan of the Little Brother, so I'm not going to give it to just one of them. Ooh, Little Little Brother. Little Brother. and Man, shit.
01:24:18
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Nipsey Hussle. Nipsey Hussle does a lot for me. I know he's a little West Coast. But for the foot of dreamer, for the artist, for the creative, Nipsey Hussle will get your blood going.
01:24:31
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Okay. All right. Was that five? i didn't I didn't count. That's five, I think. Yeah. Okay, cool. Cover D, do you want to let everybody know? I know we talked about this the other day. I'm just going to name this.
01:24:43
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Scarface. ah Love Scarface. Jay-Z. I'm going to dip into the underground with ah
01:24:55
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J-Zone. um J-Zone. I'll do another underground. Dodger kind of mentioned him. Self-titled. And rest in peace, Sean Price. That's what I'll do. That's self-titled. Doom deserves a really good runner-up on that too, bro.
01:25:13
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Yes, he does. MFG? MFG, yeah. I mean, it's, yeah. yeah So up and one of ah my favorite hip-hop artist, MC of all time is Karis One.
01:25:24
Speaker
Always has been, always will be. I am also going to keep it old school because I am very old school, so I am in the nature of the ah Big Daddy Kane, Cool G Rap, Rock Him sort of faction of Rhymers. But I'll just group them into one because I do want to touch on some other good people, obviously, that we haven't touched on yet.
01:25:44
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Ghostface and Raekwon, you can put JZA in there too if you want. Ghostface is top five, in my opinion, of all time, lyricist, Ghostface. um Andre 3000 from OutKast, we talked about them earlier.
01:25:59
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He's a top five, top ten lyricist of all time. And I will give a shout out to... I want to do some of my underground because Clever D. touched on that and I like that.
01:26:10
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I'm going to give Lewis Logic a shout out because I did love Lewis Logic of the Demigods crew. ah But yeah, I think that, again, as we all mentioned, um it really is subjective on the time period you're thinking about. If you want to touch on that or if you want to go overall, maybe you have it spread out or maybe you're little more old school like me.
01:26:31
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um But I think that we pretty much touched on most of the best lyricist of all time. Did we forget on anyone? And then we'll get into some comments and get out of Champ Ross made a mention of Big L, and I wanted to mention Big L too.
01:26:43
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oh Big L! I don't think he got the time he needed to shine for us to really see what was going to come out of him, man. Same with Conn. To me, Big L was cut off too early. Like, Jimi Hendrix was cut off. Like, if we could have if we could have heard what Jimi Hendrix did on acoustic,
01:27:03
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I think he would just reinvented acoustic music like he and he reinvented a electric guitar. so let' hand him That's a left-handed role model up there. He played upside down. And he couldn't even read music, bro. He used to count his frets before every set because he didn't even know how to read music. He did everything from memory. like That's just genius shit.
01:27:22
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That's why I take Biggie out of my top because Biggie didn't have a longevity like the rest of them. So I don't automatically put Biggie there. you know But that wasn't his fault. I'm not saying it is. Same with Big E. But you know what I mean? There's no fault. But there's no fault. You just said the argument for Big L. Big E and Big Pong, right? Same thing. That's true. You know, I just want to put him up there.
01:27:44
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That's why said don't like the cliche because they were like, oh, yeah, Big E, Pong. Same with everybody besides them. You know, that's where I kind of want to hear folks' stuff. I will say that if you have something about hip-hop and they throw Biggie and Tupac in their tops, I'm like, okay, you don't you're not going a far enough back or you really only listen to mainstream.
01:28:03
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Well, I mean, that could have just regulated with them. You know what I'm saying? Because remember, the style changed from KRS-One and everybody until when the NWA started selling. They want to produce hardcore gangster rap, which it up, you know? So... ah lot of that stuff wasn't on the radio. So, I mean, I don't really fault him too much for saying Biggie and Pac. i think I just think Pac has a longer discography, obviously.
01:28:25
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So I can see that. But Biggie had, what, two albums? Then that third one was, you know, whatever. None of the YNs have even heard of our favorites. So, you know. Jay-Z did copy and ghost-rided and did a lot of things. So, you know, there's there's some people that will take that away from him.
01:28:43
Speaker
You know, the whole thing with Jazzo and all that. So, anyways, jesus says well he says... He rhymed like Jazzo. Jazzo didn't write for him. Sure, no, no, but I mean, he still jacked his style, though.
01:28:55
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yeah he Yeah, the style, yeah, but the rhyming, the ah right writing it different. Right, right. No, I meant there was the ghost-rider, yeah, that was separate. He just rapped real fast like Jazzo. So let's go let's let's talk to Rock Chalk here.
01:29:07
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ah They might make a song ah for our combat show. That would be awesome. Bianca writes songs for Idaho murder er murdo murders. Idaho 3 murders.
01:29:22
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I guess you can't type that. I don't know. I thought you could type that. I didn't know. Anyways, all right. So it says... We need to venture out. Also says we can do a UFC unboxing song.
01:29:34
Speaker
We would love UFC song. Please do it. I will welcome one because I'm actually trying to change the new song. Make it the opening intro song. Plug her on. Make sure you throw her ination information on there for her. Thank you, social media maven. Bye, Jawan. All right, man.
01:29:51
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amazing Like he acts like I'm not looking at the comments. I get I don't get them out because what I do is I make sure they're relevant when I put them on the screen. I don't just put them right away because they put them in there. I got them over here, right?
01:30:03
Speaker
My boy, awkward m MMA fight in August 16th in Chicago. roll card What card is it going to be on? That's what I was going to ask. Thank you. oh My bad. My bad. No, you're good. No, you're good.
01:30:14
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What card is that? Is that a, is that as an independent? Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Before Weeby gets out of here, I have a big question for Weeby. This is a sports question. Do you ever think we're going to see the NBA go back to the short styles of Royal ambassador basketball?
01:30:32
Speaker
I hope so. Are we ever going to see shorts that short again? i hope so. I hope not. I hope so. It made the game a whole lot more difficult when you had to worry about things falling out.
01:30:44
Speaker
A whole other aspect to the game. I got you. Wow, pause, Bajo. These kids don't know about it. They don't understand.
01:30:54
Speaker
that phone back on. but i a bag off
01:31:00
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you put those i I had to pause for a second. Whoa, UFC 319. They've had 319 UFC fights.
01:31:13
Speaker
who's your who Who's your boy? Awkward MMA. Who is that? What's their name? Let me think.
01:31:19
Speaker
Anyways, while we're doing that, Michael, we know you got to get off. i actually have to get off too anyways, so it doesn't matter. We're about to peace out. Thanks for tuning in, guys. Hey, Mike will be with me next week.
01:31:31
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He is our MLB insider here on Ball & Buds, so we will be together next week on ah either Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday. Once me and Peach talk after the show, he did text me finally, so we'll get on and talk which day that's going
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01:31:43
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to be. a pe But it will be next week, 8 Eastern. We'll Mike Wiebe. We'll have Shane Peacher. And also, my boy.
01:31:49
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The Lion Reefs Pen. So make sure you check us out next weekend as well. hope to out. Oh, Timeliad, okay. um Ooh, nice, Timeliad. Make sure you check me out on Monday, the Professor Seminole Mint Day 8 Eastern as well.
01:32:03
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01:32:39
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Clubber D on YouTube. i got a page also. I need some more interviews. I need you to get Omar on. I need to get Michael on. and I need Bajo back on. You know saying? I got a couple people that I'm going to do pretty soon. But, yeah, we got some funny stuff coming on there. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Lamar.
01:32:58
Speaker
Lamar needs to... He bought a microphone. He's getting serious with it. Lamar, watch out for that guy. He tried to hide ourselves in our black shirt, but we seen it. Ha, ha, ha.
01:33:10
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We're talking about my fucking head and shiny and shit. Get him. Get him. Oh, great bearded ass bitch. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Wait a minute. Wait where a little boy wait and wait a minute. I got got a couple of specks in here.
01:33:23
Speaker
say I'm not there yet. Hey, Weeby, you're going to be on with me next week, but where can the people find you at? What do you got for You'll find me next week. i try to I try to stay off social media. so find Find me um on Ball and Buds.
01:33:37
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find Do you have any final thoughts for the fans? Don't find me.
01:33:43
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love all behind him Do you have any thoughts for the weekend for our fans? Would you like to wish them any, any, uh, of July safety tips? hope you, I hope you all get to sleep well. I hope you don't blow up your hands with fireworks.
01:33:56
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I hope your pets and animals don't poop on the floor. and I, I hope all of you have a good July 4th. All right. Awesome. Thank you, brother. We appreciate you. Uh, Mike, we'll be coming out. He'll be with me next week. And finally, last but not least, my brother, Bajo, my love eight.
01:34:12
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What do you got for the fans? Oh, man, everybody take care of one another. Look out for one another. um You know, give give those homeless people on the corners of a Wendy's Frosty Key tag if you got one.
01:34:25
Speaker
It'll change their life. But, yeah, take care of one another, man, and just try to grow and i'll get closer to God if you believe in that. Where can they find your comedy account at? Oh, man. Honestly, my comedy is a little stagnant right now. i'll be honest. I've been building my business, paidentertainment.com, doing voice work, voice acting.
01:34:42
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If you like the sound of my voice and you want me to do, like, i don't know, some kind of birthday shout out to a loved one or something like this, or you got any projects where you need character voices, you can email me at paidentertainment at gmail.com. That's P-A-Y-D gmail.com.
01:34:58
Speaker
And what does that stand for? What's the acronym there? Pay all your dues. Boom! Let's go, sucka. I like it. I heard Baja did a voiceover in ah in ah and a two-dog porno movie. Yup, it was it was a cartoon fluff film.
01:35:13
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I got paid. Hey, show me the bag. All I had to do was some... What was that? Wow. Do it again. Do it again. Don't do it again without him paying you. It's not going to turn your stomach like that Bad Bunny audio.
01:35:37
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Good night, everybody. Hey, that's hilarious. Yeah. Good night, everybody. Make sure you subscribe to Ball and Buds. Hit that QR code up top. It'll take you there. You can find all our social media, all Club Red East social media is there as well.
01:35:50
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Y'all have a happy 4th of July. We love you. Thank you. Be safe. And we'll see you next week. Holla.
01:35:56
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Peace with the millionaires.
01:36:00
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