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Banter, Brawls & Bravado OG Edition ft. 703 Boyz
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Transcript
Introduction and Technical Difficulties
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He's with the millions! It's that world heavyweight flow Championship belt wrapped around my waist, yo I got that Ric Flair, fake it, flow Slam you on the page, that's why they call me Street Pro Create heat on beat flow Like Jordan after the second time he three-feated, folks Get ready, set, let's go Fight toe to toe, release the flow Created by this micro Lights, camera, get low Action packed back to back in fact this monster will grow y'all better let him know Man with the master plan and you have no need to know You can't prepare now get ready for the show
00:00:47
Speaker
Yes, sir, yo ho yo yo what up friends falling buds back at it again banter, brawls, and bravado, the OG edition. And you see, I got the crew with me today. Not sure. Y'all hear that?
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It's on you, buddy. I don't know why that's happening. I know it's not even on.
00:01:13
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why What is that? That is nonsense. How did that happen? How's everybody doing? Better. How are you doing? Anyways, that's crazy.
00:01:27
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It's good to see you guys. Yeah.
00:01:30
Speaker
Go ahead, Bacho. Talk. My bad. and didn't mean to on you. It's good to see you guys again, man. What's been new? I'm excited to do another show with you guys.
00:01:39
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Oh, I see what happened here. Okay. I got it. I'm understanding. Okay. Jeez Louise. I had to add Instagram. I have to go live on the video on Instagram and it was playing through my headphones and that's what I was hearing, but I thought it was the echo on here.
00:01:53
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Anyways, you know what it is. Ball and buds. We're back at it again. i am Omar, the street professor Fonseca. I got my brother. Pajuan Malavey, maybe it's the other way. I don't know. They mirror your camera.
00:02:05
Speaker
ah He's with us today. ah My other brother, streamer partner in crime, Club of D, the combat G, and my other brother down on this side, and our MLB insider, Michael Wiebe. What's good?
00:02:19
Speaker
Well, what happens is they mirror your camera on this thing. So if you don't know that, then you point the wrong way. It's like, well, what the fuck?
00:02:31
Speaker
Anyways, either way, ah thanks for joining us tonight. We appreciate it. This is, again, make sure you put your kids to bed. This will be an explicit show, ah so we are not responsible for anything your kids may hear. But that'd be it.
00:02:45
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That being said, make sure you subscribe to Ball and Buds, B-A-L-L-A-N-D, B-U-D-S on YouTube. And as well, hit that like button if you're watching now or on the replay. It helps us out in the algorithm, and it's free to you.
00:02:59
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So help us out.
Boxing News: Jake Paul vs. Julio Cesar Chavez
00:03:00
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Cool? Smiling a lot.
00:03:04
Speaker
Smiling too much? Are you smiling too much? don't know what to do with my hands. I mean, or maybe not not take so many gummies before you start the show. How about that?
00:03:17
Speaker
What are we talking about today, man? Oh, man. just a bunch ah Just a bunch of BS today. ah let's say You know what? Let's just start it off. with the biggest story of the day.
00:03:31
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um Let's go ahead and start it off on top. Actually, you know what? Let's start with a little, let's ease it in a little bit. start with the boxing news first, and then we'll ease into that. So this past weekend, ah Jake Paul had a fight with Julio Cesar Chavez. This is going to be a two-part story, y'all, anyways, so pay attention.
00:03:50
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ah The fight ended up who are Jake Paul winning by decision, as some people will say, is rigged. We're going to go to our expert clubber D on this, but the announcers were hyping Jake Paul up as a future world champion after this fight.
00:04:06
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and then After that, we find out today that Julio Cesar Chavez was actually deported by ICE.
00:04:17
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Now, I just found out information. Shout out Jimmy Adams runs Country Box down here. i was just on the phone with me. He told me the inside scoop. Apparently, allegedly what they're saying is that he has ties to the Sinaloa cartel.
00:04:32
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And also has been doing money laundering and drug running and gun running down in Mexico. Let's start with you, Clubber That's a whole lot to take in.
00:04:43
Speaker
ah First, maybe get to give us your your your Jake Paul thoughts and then you can go into Julio after that. Two things. First, I'll say... ah We're gonna use that allegedly word first. Please. Second, um i that I just wanted you to, so did he want you to say that?
00:04:59
Speaker
But hey, it's already out there now. oh I would say for Jake Paul, when I first saw the news, I thought his dad called ice on him for that performance. I thought his dad was like, I'm sick and tired of your ass. Get out of here and go back to Mexico. Stop embarrassing the name.
00:05:13
Speaker
Stop embarrassing our people. I'm sick of your fights. ah Jake Paul, I said it when we were talking Skywalker and everybody that he's already called out some the champions in his weight class, around his weight class.
00:05:25
Speaker
The WBA already had him ranked. I think the WBC is going have him ranked. He was talking about Badu Jack and fighting Zordo for the belt. So the play is for him to fight for the belt pretty soon. I can see that.
00:05:36
Speaker
The Javante Davis fight was already on the was it was it was on the menu. he was at the he Jake Paul was at the Javante Davis versus Roach fight, and i'm pretty sure they were going to fight. but ah you know Insider information. That draw happened, so you know it is what it is. But I think Jake Paul will fight our champion soon.
00:05:53
Speaker
He's already caught out AJ. He'll get his ass whooped, but I heard him say on the Jackson podcast, you know people want to see me get whooped, but I got to kind of build myself up to a certain point. Then he doesn't mind getting whooped, so that's the play.
00:06:06
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There you go. All right. And then also, what are your thoughts on the Julio Cesar Chavez incident today? Well, Dion, I have a question for before you. shop so you go is Is he going to fight like real fighters now?
00:06:21
Speaker
Like in order to get to the championship fight, does he have to fight like real ranked fighters to get there? Or can he fight like me and Omar and get two W's and then get up? He's going get a W against Well, I think already they're they're they're putting him in play to fight a real fighter.
00:06:36
Speaker
you know I'm saying? Like they're already having him ranked above people who've fought hard in amateurs, no yeah Olympians, and try to get ranked. And he's already, boop, they put him up there. Because the division he's going to be fighting in the Cruiserweight kind of a lackluster division. There's no real eyes on it.
00:06:52
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And, um you know, so say what you want about him. I respect everything he's done for female boxing and for some of his side fighters. But him, the way he's doing it, nah, bruh.
00:07:05
Speaker
Nah, I can't. I can't rock with that. he's going to have to fight like real people. Yeah, he'll who fight real people soon. He will. I think once that happens, we're going to see a big difference in some of these win counts. oh yeah, he's knock the mayonnaise. Someone's going to knock the mayonnaise out his hair.
00:07:22
Speaker
You can't just get into the ring with Ali because you think you know how box. I don't know if if if you if you paid the number seven boxer cruiserweight in the world and you told him, you know, if he takes a fall, it's an extra $6 million. dollars Exactly.
00:07:38
Speaker
He might do it. I mean, there's a chance. He might be able to, the same way he's been getting one over on everybody else. you know Is there indeed a no knockout clause and he in these contracts?
00:07:50
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Uh, Could be, because Chavez... um i I mean, I don't speculate too much, but Chavez didn't really throw a punch to like the seventh or eighth round. He waited until the end of the fight to kind of do something.
00:08:02
Speaker
He was just basically just... I'm not going to say glorified sparring session. Tyson, when he fought Tyson, Tyson gave his all for the first maybe two minutes. One minute. ah Give him a round.
00:08:16
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And then his age kind of took over. i didn't really think Tyson... ah i mean, I knew that would
00:08:22
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You know, you got to look the level talent he's fought. He's fought Jim John, the UPS driver. He's fought Tyron Wood. Jim Yardin. Anderson Silva. You know I'm saying? He's fought. Every time my dog has to shake his head.
00:08:37
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oh Doing it again. He's fought nothing but people that are past their prime and from other sports. Mike Perry's from MMA also. So, you know, I would love to see him with a real boxer, even just a young amateur.
00:08:50
Speaker
Yeah, someone who's hungry. Mm-hmm. I mean, if we're going to pay for a gimmick, we might well just throw Ryan Garcia in the ring with him. We we don't talk about racist cheaters. You know what I'm saying?
Vince McMahon's Legal Troubles
00:09:00
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
00:09:02
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Accurate. In regards to the Julio Cesar Chavez thing, though, I mean, hopefully, you know, he doesn't have those kind of connections to the cartel and, you know, and he enjoys his freedom.
00:09:13
Speaker
Yeah, that's... Yeah, it's a thing you don't want to do when you're down in Mexico, obviously, is be involved with. Now, the cartels are the ones with all the power. So technically, I guess if he needed to get off, they could probably get him off. But still something you probably don't want to be caused. Like, wow. Also, cartel, please don't come get my friend for the alleged comments. Allegedly.
00:09:38
Speaker
Allegedly anything you do with cartels. This gets to anyone down in Sinaloa. There's a bottle right now talking to his general. I've seen Narcos. I've seen Narcos. That season was crazy.
00:09:50
Speaker
By the end of this podcast, we're going see a black hood over your hand. he shook you guess just like it dragged out the apartment yeah You better call Tito Santana or somebody. shoot Yeah, you didn't know your next door neighbor was ah was a cartel incel.
00:10:02
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ah ah What is your favorite Narcos season before we move on? First one. oh First, i mean, I like them all. um Season two, Pedro Pascal was really good.
00:10:18
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That's when they started going to New York or Jersey and started bringing stuff over there. Hmm.
00:10:26
Speaker
feel like um I might say to that's hard to say. I like them all. Every single one equally. They're all good, but I agree. The original was, I mean, maybe it because it was the original, but that original was just, I will say way about true detective also, like they're all good seasons in their own way, but that first one just set the precedence.
00:10:41
Speaker
Second season, true detective. Let me down big time. Cause it was five different stories in one. They would have focused on two of the stories. It would have been a lot better to me. Like you had Vince Vaughn's arc, you had, uh,
00:10:53
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Colin Farrell's arc, you had ah ah the one cop who was gay but trying to hide that arc. And then you had ah ah the one actress who I called stealing. I forgot her name. But you have four different stories.
00:11:05
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hu Did you watch this yesterday? I watched that like 10 years ago. I had, this is still trap. You all that from 10 years This is still trap, okay? When it comes to shows, I got, I know everything. I'm telling you. If it's a good show, I know about it. That's why I didn't do anything embarrassing around Deonna. He wasn't also doing himself.
00:11:21
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Stays up there. I know nothing good in life besides random shit. okay It's like my brother. My brother would say an obscure line from a movie or something or like a ah obscure person from ah from a Living Color skit.
00:11:36
Speaker
How do you remember that? I don't know. You just have that ability to remember certain shit. Nothing important, just random shit. Sounds Rain Man-y to me. It is.
00:11:47
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that um You call me Matsu Mike. I'll take it. shit. That's great. Oh, my God. um So, Baja, what were you saying about your thoughts on the Julio Cesar Chavez stuff? were Yeah, man, you know, as ah as an athlete, you know, and a boxer and a legacy, man, you just hope that, you know,
00:12:07
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people aren't doing things to tarnish that, you know, that legacy, that name, all that work that they put in, just because you come from a place doesn't mean you have to, you know, engage with that element. I feel like that would be tantamount to like a kid growing up in Compton and not essentially joining a gang or something to this effect. that That's, that's what life is like over there. Like you get into boxing to get out of that kind of lifestyle and I have to be trapped in that. So hopefully he didn't get, you know, round back up inside. As the three of you know, and and the folks at home don't know again, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.
00:12:36
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like, comment, share all that good stuff. But for those of you that don't, don't really watch a lot of sports. you know So I get to get on this show and more so the comedy relief, but I know a little bit of what's going on. I throw my two cents in there. Chavez was raised rich. so Right. So there's no point for him to even you know be involved with that.
00:12:54
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Stupid. Yes, sir. Here, Bajo, there's that QR code right up there at the top. You can use that. Follow all of oive bar social medias, YouTube and all that. Make sure you subscribe to Ball and Buds. Also, subscribe to Clubber D's new YouTube. How do people scan that if you're watching it on their auto their phone? How do they scan that?
00:13:11
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Yeah, that you can't do. But if you're watching it on the TV. was wondering if you print it out first. I already knew that. But if you're watching it on the TV or the or the laptop, you can't. But yes, not on the phone. Hold your phone up to your friend's phone. They scan it. Then you scan it. Now, you could do that. You you could technically. If someone is watching this together, two friends are watching this show together, and they have proof that they scanned that. If they're watching it together. If someone's like, you know what? I'm not going to put it on on the speaker. i'm just going to have my headphones on. You can't. no You got to scan to get it.
00:13:43
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Hey, then poof. We're doing that. Throw in the comments. Omar will give $20 of his dollars because I'm not. If somebody, two people are doing that randomly. Is it full couch? Is it like full couch sitting in the middle? Yeah, like Bajo over Juan's house, you know. four couchs Man, okay, there's no there's not a love seat over there, but.
00:14:01
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so I'm gonna sit in the middle so you look weird if you sit next to me on either side I get the whole couch. You probably don't do the buffer seat at the movie theater. You probably sit right next to the person. I share armrests.
00:14:12
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I share armrests with you. He grabs the next urinal. My arm's going on top. There's a hole in your popcorn bag. What the hell? yo The old hole in the popcorn trick. not really if you If you guys scan the qr code and you can send in the comments, prove that you did that. You'll get a Ball and Buds t-shirt.
00:14:34
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Just send the size. We'll get that out to you. And you will also get made fun of for being watching this program with someone else. Like, I don't even expect anyone to do that. Not even our push traffic to call them butts. I get it, but I'm just saying. Shout out Instagram. Your boy, Bajo, Tony Savage coming through.
00:14:52
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shout Shout out. Derek Clubb asks, is Chavez Jr. worse off than Jordan Sons? You're quicker. You got to slow down, Bajo. You got to let Omar get it. It's OK. No worries. It was just one comment on Instagram.
00:15:03
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Slow down. What do we got here? What do we think? ah No, because my my thing is, I believe Chavez was a world champion. ah Jordan's son never made it to the NBA. so um no Ouch.
00:15:16
Speaker
That's very true. Never did make it to the NBA. Chavez's son, he's fought Canelo. He's been on pay-per-views. He's been on that high stage. he just Sergio Martinez. I don't know. Was he world champion? I think he was. I don't know. He's definitely worse off. he's in a He's in like the back of a van right now.
00:15:31
Speaker
go into the Everglades to get... He's on 4 o'clock. Get Everglades! He's going get sent to' goingnna get sent to Venezuela or something. I i mean, yeah, he's way worse off. We talked about it.
00:15:43
Speaker
He's not worse off. oh did you I thought you meant like ruining the legacy. My bad. I just thought it was like... Like right now, obviously, yeah, right now. But I'm saying like having that last name and and living up to potential.
00:15:55
Speaker
That's what thought that. Oh, you know what? I did i didn't think about it that way either, though. That's black what thought it was. I thought it was more. I thought they meant legacy-wise, too. Yeah. Mike, that's completely right, though, Mike. Thank you for your answer. Yeah, you're right.
00:16:08
Speaker
But that's not even a question. like How can you, like, I thought it was so because that let go obvious. That's ah do in respect In respect to Chavez Jr. and the in the words of the great Martin Lawrence, I'll say, hasta la vista, Chavez to you. And Chavez to you. might be right bright side chavez juniorr he'll be He'll be safe in jail.
00:16:27
Speaker
um don't think anyone's going to mess with him. Yeah, he is allegedly involved with these alleged people we've been allegedly talking about. Thank you. I you. If he's allegedly involved, he he's going to be hanging out in club fed.
00:16:42
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No more questions in the chat. Yeah. Give us David.
00:16:47
Speaker
what No, you're good. You can say it. It's okay. I'm just trying to, I'm trying to type in, uh, give us the engagement guys at home. David's player, worst legacy.
00:17:01
Speaker
and she ah he a He was just terrible. He just wasn't good. um Also, Shane Peacher, answer your phone because I texted you about the baseball stream next week and I texted you twice yesterday and today. you haven't text Some people don't got reception. ah He did have a... but I remember this kid. he did have He wasn't that... He was terrible.
00:17:25
Speaker
You mean former champion David Flair? I see him. He was a former champion. He was a former world champion. Did he earn it? Did he earn it? Or was it? Whether that was the worst decision of Eric Bischoff's career is another. David Arquette was a WCW champion. Oh, this was a WCW decision. Okay. Yeah.
00:17:45
Speaker
That never would have happened in the WWF. No, no, no. Hell no. Hell no. well out Well, they gave to Vince McMahon, so. But when you own the company. That's true. That's true.
00:17:56
Speaker
I mean, hey, speaking of Vince McMahon, that is a great segue. Vince McMahon, we have an update on the actual trial that he is going through. So let me bring up my notes here while this. Let the folks at home know what he's on trial for. Everyone doesn't watch wrestling or keep up with Vince McMahon.
00:18:14
Speaker
So no I appreciate it. I've got all this paragraph here. So hang with me a second. This what we're happening. Vince McMahon was originally ah sued by a woman named Janelle Grant. Vince McMahon, the former owner and former ah chief of WWE w World Wrestling Entertainment, formerly WWF World Wrestling Federation.
00:18:36
Speaker
ah The suit was filed in January 2024 and alleged that McMahon and John Laranitis, another defendant in the case at the time, sexually assaulted and trafficked her for years while Grant worked directly under Laranitis at the w WWE offices.
00:18:58
Speaker
What we have now found out a year and a half later after those charges were filed, after we've heard a lot of testimony, I'm not going to repeat the disgusting things that are alleged to have happened in this case. If you would like to go read the case, it is out there on the Internet. You may Google it. It's public.
00:19:17
Speaker
But it is very disgusting, some of the things that they were doing to this woman, if true. So, again, allegedly these things were ah happening. And then just recently in the past month, there was an agreement on the back end with John Larinitis and Janelle.
00:19:40
Speaker
Sorry, that was right. No, no. the back On the back end, what were you saying? oh shit Are you shitting on the um this story right now? Hmm. Shit on the story. i got I got that, Mike. on the back end I got that one. but but i I promise no pun intended on that. Anyways.
Diddy Combs: Trial and Acquittal
00:20:00
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Anyways, so, all right, stop. we're ready We're talking soon. so went So there became an agreement came out with John Laranitis and the woman Janelle Grant. And now apparently but this agreement, John Laranitis is no longer part of the suit. Now, remember.
00:20:27
Speaker
When looking back at this suit, she worked under John Laranitis. So John Laranitis was the one that had most of the contact with her. So if these alleged events were to be true, then that means he was probably allegedly involved in a lot of And as well, Vince McMahon, obviously being involved in allegedly all of them.
00:20:48
Speaker
Also, there was an NDA at one point in time. But unfortunately, Vince McMahon, being one of the richest people in the world, allegedly decided not to pay her for the final month and or something, final month or final year. And she decided to sue.
00:21:04
Speaker
If he would have paid her, she wouldn't have been able to say anything. Not that I'm saying that's right. ah Mike, let's start with you this time, brother. How do you feel about this case? And now, this being all on McMahon now. No more larynidus as a secondary duck to deflect any charges.
00:21:21
Speaker
i mean... I hope they I he's already he's paid a lot of big price already but um he's gonna have to pay again he's he's not going to jail I mean he's gonna he's gonna just cut a gigantic check and get out of it I mean his wife's in the damn cabinet so but there's zero percent chance he goes to jail and even if he does nothing's gonna happen he'll just get right out they'll they'll tell him to go to jail and he'll get pardoned immediately so it's a lot of sound and fury, but you know, i don't think anything's going to come out of this. Nothing's going to happen to him.
00:21:54
Speaker
So I think he knows that too. So, um, he's just gonna do what wealthy people do. Keep delaying delay and delay and delay and delay and delay. And he'll either die or deal. Yep. Yep.
00:22:07
Speaker
Well, and that's a that's a great segue to what we're going to talk about right after this, which is the Sean Diddy Combs trial, right? Because he also, as we'll talk about, was able to get acquitted on most of the major charges. Bajo, what do you think about this story and about this guy who apparently was a major part of this sexual assault now being out of the ah lawsuit because of an agreement um that they came to, probably monetarily, I would assume?
00:22:32
Speaker
Well, i think I think, you know, the thing about settlements is this. is it proves to everyone that everyone has their price. o The million dollar man, I believe, said that one If you if you settle, you you have a price, right?
00:22:52
Speaker
So whatever that amount was, that young lady was willing to drop the case because that was enough to make her feel like what with those acts that that monetary amount was fair compensation, which which is sad. and Which is sad to think, because I have a you know ah stepdaughter and and and as you know someone with a daughter in their life, you hate to think that there are men out there that will do things to your baby girl, whether they were complicit or not at the time.
00:23:21
Speaker
You know what I mean? Sometimes people go overboard and I never understood why people with with a lot of money even needed to do such degenerative things. You know, i would assume that there are plenty of people out there trying to get the bag that that he could have just done things on a willy nilly, you know, and just had his own fun, whatever.
00:23:40
Speaker
Well, to whatever degree that is But like like Mike said, you know his wife being on the cabinet, and for those of you who don't know, she is the Secretary of Education for the United States of America.
00:23:52
Speaker
She's not very well educated. Pardon my French. She is dumb as fuck. she is the Secretary of Education for our country. I'll let you Google some of her... Stupid statements. Somewhere around tables or whatever, and I'll let you make that decision on your own. But it just goes to show that in this country, if you've got if you've got money, you've got power.
00:24:13
Speaker
She called it AIIA. In a hearing, in a federal hearing. You know what? Go ahead. Go ahead, bud. I digress. I think it's disgusting what these men have done. i feel i feel bad for the young lady who really wanted nothing more than just to pursue her dream of being a professional wrestler.
00:24:29
Speaker
And if she just got tangled up in the nasty web. that is celebrity, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And we'll talk about that again with the, with the, uh, diddy thing here in a second club, what are your thoughts on this?
00:24:41
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Uh, I mean,
00:24:45
Speaker
it must be nice to not be in jail, I guess, Vince, you can just stay out and be okay. Right. Would he not have to go in for it? Like like at least a couple of days or something. We got the complexion. Sometimes you'd be able to some certain things.
00:24:57
Speaker
Um, it's I know the report. I know exactly what was done. i read all that stuff or most of it. and Beyond disgusting from Laurinaitis saying it's break time. Let's go into the break room and do something to um using the bathroom on somebody or that was the worst sending a picture of you doing number one to Brock Lesnar. I mean, for Brock Lesnar. It's just a lot of disgusting acts.
00:25:25
Speaker
and a I don't really think that's really going to affect this a man too much he's already blacklisted as it is right now but uh the one thing that cures just about everything is time and the longer this is not in the news and they finish things behind the scenes the easier is for him maybe in two or three years if he's in good health to pop in the news for something buy a studio buy do something you know what i mean so I'm sure he'll be a silent partner on some type of up production pretty soon.
00:25:54
Speaker
Yeah, there was already rumors that he was trying to come back into the fold with TKO and WWE and all that or start his own ah wrestling organization. So, um look, i don't have I don't need to repeat anything the guys said. they They said everything. What I will say is that for Vince McMahon, I do want to go back to what Michael said, which was very important.
00:26:15
Speaker
is that now that Vince is the only person in the actual case, it looks like Bajo is a ghost. And she's the only one actually in the case anymore. He's going to have to pay that much more money in the end or that much more whatever it is that he, however they punish him, which again, yeah, not jail time, obviously, but however he gets punished, money, whatever else, it's going to be a lot more now that Laronitis is no longer.
00:26:42
Speaker
excuse me lets in the Thank you. In the case. oh That's good. That's great. That's tremendous. Anyway. you gasne's ah So we'll keep you updated on this we get more.
00:26:57
Speaker
if we Shut up. if we um if we If we get any more updates on this. Cool. right. Let's move it into the Sean Diddy Combs trial.
00:27:08
Speaker
Sean Diddy Combs was convicted did on two counts, but they were the lesser counts. So let's go back on what happened here. Sean Diddy Combs, eight months ago, his trial started for racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking, and prostitution.
00:27:25
Speaker
Five counts. He was found after weeks. I mean, explosive testimony, explosive testimony that we heard from Cassie, who we obviously know was his ex-girlfriend, Cassie Ventura. We saw the video of him brutally beating her within the hotel. We talked about it on here.
00:27:43
Speaker
um we saw we We heard from another lady assistant who he dangled over a you know rooftop balcony. We heard from other assistants that he forced them to you know allegedly purchase ah you know drugs or do other things for him, baby oil, all these things.
00:28:00
Speaker
We heard from the male escort that was actually involved in proceedings. Punisher. readings The freak offs, what an apropos name for a male escort. I'm sorry, sir, but you picked the best name.
00:28:12
Speaker
ah and And pause on this, but I'm assuming you would have to be hung like a horse. But pause on that. um So anyway, I'm just saying, like, if you put you in, I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
00:28:25
Speaker
ah I said pause. um So anyways, he was not convicted on the bigger charges of sex trafficking, of racketeering and conspiracy, which on my shameless plug on my show, the professor seminar meant that I've been talking about that conspiracy racketeering is more of a business type of multiple people charge. And that just because he's a nasty person having all these parties doesn't necessarily make him yeah mean he's using a criminal enterprise either way.
00:28:56
Speaker
He gets off Rico. He gets off sex trafficking. He does get charged with two counts. ah One of ah prostitution. Well, but no, both were prostitution charges um relating to the two girls, Cassie and Jane Dill.
00:29:09
Speaker
Bajo, we'll start with you on this. What are your thoughts on this crazy trial? Oh, man. You know, my wife, you know, yeah you guys know Tracy. She's been keeping up with the Diddy. Like when she found out about the Diddy trial, she went down the rabbit hole.
00:29:21
Speaker
I mean, all the way down to rabbit hole. And you know was giving me the updates on the trial and things like this. So you know when I told her that Diddy was essentially getting off, because that's kind of what he's doing. like i mean, essentially. I mean, yeah. yeah He's going to pay for his offenses, time served, like they said. And he's going to be releasing a hit album.
00:29:43
Speaker
He's going to drop the video week from tomorrow. Yeah, he's going to drop the album. It's going to have Amistad on the cover. It's going to say, give us free. And um who knows? Based on how people are celebrating outside the courthouse, it might go platinum. Y'all keep talking to me right back.
00:30:02
Speaker
With the whole Diddy thing, I was telling Tracy that it's wild because even Cassie shot herself in the foot saying that you know she went back for some of this stuff. So I go, at what point can you really say Well, it was wrong because if you if you go back for it, that's like, you know, you if you're in a domestic, a violent domestic relationship, but you won't leave the guy in some cases the girl, it happens, then you're just asking for it.
00:30:29
Speaker
You know mean? It's coming to light now and it's good that she's, you know, she's trying to set the record straight for any injustices to herself after the fact or any other young ladies that might've been involved.
00:30:41
Speaker
But that hallway beatdown was uncalled for. Like I would say of all things. She's going to be our book deal. Someone's going to give her the bag for that book deal. Yeah. For that tell-all book deal. She is going to get paid on it. She already got paid twice.
00:30:56
Speaker
Her husband, though. like well Well, here I would jump in because I was reading a lot of stuff. This isn't going against. I'm not trying to be pro-puffy, pro-whatever. I'm just pro-facts and what's what the hell happened.
00:31:08
Speaker
If you really look at the case and what the hell they said, ah she's kind like a co-conspirator, okay? you know She arranged a lot of stuff. She oh was asking him, don't do it without me. stay She even did it without him.
00:31:21
Speaker
ah Stuff without him. You know what I'm saying? um I knew there was no sex trafficking. They were calling prostitutes, male prostitutes, to have sex with her and he would watch and do some nasty stuff when they when they finished on her. but um A lot of the stuff, again, you know when people have a ah curse or whatever over you and you just do a lot of dumb shit. She did that when the whole Kid Cudi thing, she was cheating on Puffy. the of the The ball player, she was cheating on Puffy and that stuff came in of tuition ah came into the court and because apparently Kid Cudi's car got blown up. So there's a lot of stuff where you know I'm not saying you know she... nothing None of that stuff should ever happen to her, but we got to put all that stuff perspective. She was with him doing this whole thing.
00:32:02
Speaker
And... um when she So they said that the reason why he did that in hotel room, which doesn't justify anything, he has she had stole his phone and ran out into the whatever, and I don't know the hell she should do with the phone.
00:32:15
Speaker
Should he have done that shit? Hell no. You know what i mean? But I thought it was just him being an asshole, just wanting to beat her the hip be dirt a hell up. You know I'm saying? But stealing a phone doesn't justify putting your hands on a woman, but...
00:32:26
Speaker
you know i That was just a volatile relationship, just look like to me. and um you know She got paid by the hotel. She got 10 mil off that. she got She signed that NDA or whatever and got 20, 30 mil off Puffy.
00:32:37
Speaker
I knew he was going to get off. There was no racketeering. There no sex trafficking. Not to be insensitive. and not to be insensitive You know, and this may just be the comedian. That not a good way to start any. That's not a good way. what this sentence is going to be, Bajo.
00:32:55
Speaker
Well, let me just say Write it out in your head and put a period on the end of it before you say This wouldn't have anything to do with, like, the trial or anything like this, right, or how she was treated or any of the freak-offs, right?
00:33:09
Speaker
I think I'm i'm most hurt.
00:33:13
Speaker
by how finding all this stuff out has changed my entire view and scope of the music that I grew up with. How so? That's where I'm at with it. Well, you know, we, we, at a time we all loved Puff.
00:33:26
Speaker
ah Excuse me. We, we did. and well i mean, Puff was putting out hits. We, we did. but we didn't love Puff, but Puff was putting he gave us Biggie. Well, you got to understand, if you want to keep it 100, Puff didn't testify against nobody.
00:33:40
Speaker
He remained silent. So all this all those people, yes, he did. He didn't tell on nobody. I feel like the music... He didn't tell on nobody in industry. So when he gets out, all those people he didn't tell on are about, hey, here's some money.
00:33:52
Speaker
Because he didn't snitch on not one person. He didn't take the stand. So you got to remember that, too. You can't snitch if you don't take the stand. Yeah, he refused to take the stand. Well, why would you stop incriminating yourself anyway? With the amount of evidence...
00:34:04
Speaker
and allegations and things like this. But again, it's just crazy to think how you got so much money and things still ain't good enough for you. and it takes Man, it takes more and more to get off on anything, man.
00:34:20
Speaker
if you if you The first time you drank two beers, you were on the floor. You know, it just progresses. Everything is going to multiply.
00:34:30
Speaker
at some point in time, you're going to live that cook life to really feel it. So, I mean, this is a big man. He's always hated Puff.
00:34:42
Speaker
It will always take more and more and more and more and more anything. I mean, I'm with Mike. I never liked Puff Daddy. I never liked his music. I didn't like him as a person.
00:34:53
Speaker
If it wasn't for him, you guys wouldn't have got so... and Mary J. Alden, people. So let's... Sure, sure. No, that's... That's what I'm saying. Bad Boy Records gave us a try of hits. But that does not mean I like his music. No, his music was trash, but it wasn't for him. I can't say I hate him because it wasn't ah don't you well yeah no he's a He's a business mogul.
00:35:14
Speaker
Yeah. we we We get that. Hey, um But you're in your readings, Dion, that do they got over do they have to return all that baby oil? Does someone have to like package it up? and i would I would autograph and sell it.
00:35:26
Speaker
Yeah, when you get it back, just- Yo, I would autograph it and sell it. i also as much side did they confiscate some baby oil? Is it evidence? Is it evidence? It's not available to own baby oil.
00:35:39
Speaker
It's, I mean. You think Johnson and Johnson's is going endorse him? Like when they, when they went to his house, they're like, oh he has baby oil. He has guns. It's his house. He can whatever the fuck he wants to have it in his house. Who fucking cares?
00:35:49
Speaker
It's not illegal. It's not illegal to have guns. It's not illegal to have baby or baby oil. You know what saying? Yes, it's weird. but It wasn't that. It was that the baby oil wasn't even baby oil. Apparently the baby oil was some kind of concoction that as you rubbed it on, it, as it seeped into your skin, it it affected you.
00:36:07
Speaker
It like drugged you. Yeah, look into it. It was some crazy wild shit like that. If it was something like that, he might be a arrested on having some illegal weird shit, unless that's legal. But yeah, I'm telling you, know that the case gets weirder, man.
00:36:19
Speaker
He said, let the let the baby oil sink into you. Feel the passion of Puff Daddy. the the But the the whole case is really... Who was the first one to hear it that?
00:36:31
Speaker
Yeah. That's what I want to know. Probably Lil' Kim.
00:36:37
Speaker
Biggie, Biggie. He had some gay lyrics. Biggie had some gay lyrics. Yeah, Biggie did. He had some pause-worthy lyrics. I mean, it's and Puffy was. They say he's behind the whole Tupac. But then find out some of our heroes were involved. Reginald Vell Johnson was involved. He was one of my, you know, apparently show. That guy. you know He was one of the black dads. That's wild. He was a dancer on Living Color before, so he's a backup dancer.
00:36:59
Speaker
He went to Hollywood. Let me just give you all, because I do know the answer to this question, because they did I read an article on it that when they actually went and did the investigation and found all the baby oil, they took pictures. so This is from the on the New York Times website.
00:37:16
Speaker
Check out the stashes of baby oil here. so That's just a little cigar box. Nothing wrong with that one. That was a very classy, very classy. Nice human door.
00:37:28
Speaker
Now, what about this little drawer we got here? um Let's keep it moving down. Those are all boxes of baby oil, sons. When you have matches, you have gazillion people over at free golf. You got to make sure you know everyone's not ashy. You can't have a um baby oil wrestling match. Can I not be covered by G's comment?
00:37:47
Speaker
What did you say? I not be covered by G's comment? Oh, shit. My bad. My bad. i was trying I was trying to show yeah ah show you. Well, you we know I'm not looking all of us i'm looking at the pictures. You got let me know. I didn't know.
00:38:01
Speaker
ah Anyways, look at that. So you've got another cooler here of more as baby oil and Astro Glide. So there you go. Someone's government's on there. Someone's government name. There you go.
00:38:12
Speaker
So he had a lot of obviously a lot of baby oil going on in in the house. So but yeah, there there was that. And yes, he did get off on the most on the biggest charges. So what they're saying now is the federal of some federal prosecutors are.
00:38:32
Speaker
Estimating anywhere from one and a half years to two and a half years at the most is probably what he's going to get. So the maximum on the two charges, because it's they're vote both called Mann Act violation, M-A-N-N.
00:38:47
Speaker
act. I know that's why i had to spell it out because it's not man like man. But the man act with two N's, probably somebody's name, um he's he that's violations of prostitution. So since he has two of those that he was convicted on, they each carry a 10-year charge, 20 years max.
00:39:04
Speaker
But the judge has said it' said that the judge is going to go lenient because he has no criminal record. First time. Yeah. Right. And so then they'll give him time served on top of it.
00:39:14
Speaker
So he'll only end up doing like one or two years of like a five-year kind of sentence. I think he'll get less. I think he'll probably get less than that. He's going home. Yeah, he's coming home because first time offender. He's going home no time whatsoever. He's going to serve at least a couple months. I think he should be home before NFL starts.
00:39:31
Speaker
He'll be on parmation. He's already been in like six months. Are the freak-offs over? Is my question. Huh? Are the freak-offs over? No. no All people I didn't tell, all people, all every the That's going to biggest freak off yet. that All those elites that he didn't tell on her are just waiting. just like, you know, they're going to tighten him with money. I'm telling you, him not snitching helped him out.
00:39:52
Speaker
Yeah, it was funny. I saw a little boozy coming out, like basically crying the other day. He's like, man, they're attacking our moguls. And I'm like, the dude sexually assaulted and beat multiple people, dude. It's not like he But he's in jail. Where's Vince McMahon at?
00:40:07
Speaker
That's true. Where's the guy from Abercrombie and Finch at? So, like, yes, there's an issue right there with that stuff. It's pretty obvious. Sure. Oh, of course. We know there's a discrepancy in race. That's not what it's about. I'm talking about him just being like, oh.
00:40:18
Speaker
like Because he he did a lot for him. He didn't like or love hate him or don't like him, whatever. He doesn't. You know, what he did for the culture is a little different. You know what i mean? Yeah, man. He's an icon.
00:40:29
Speaker
Allegedly. us the late 90s, 2000s. Yeah. There's no Puffy. There's not a lot of stuff. so Allegedly, G. Allegedly, sir. Please. Please. They can't prove that he got Kip.
00:40:40
Speaker
Guys, like, you know, comment your craziest Puffy factoid. Don't forget to subscribe. thought Heavy day died of, like, ah a disease or something. Natural causes? Yeah. thought he had, like, a...
00:40:51
Speaker
That's what they want you to think. You might be talking about Craig Mack. He died of disease, but him and Puff didn't get along. heavy de i don't think heavy he was Black Rob's gone too.
00:41:05
Speaker
Black Rob's in jail. lift He's dead. No, G-Dep got out of jail. Yeah, G-Dep got out of jail. we now i will say I will say that, oh, he's out of jail too.
00:41:17
Speaker
um He just did an interview on CNN a few like a few months ago, i saw. But also I saw on CNN, Suge Knight called in from jail last night on the Laura Coates show. Suge Knight says he thinks that Puffy, now I have to say, and I'll get to this in a second, but he he was trying to give Puffy all kinds of advice.
00:41:35
Speaker
And now apparently because he's been in jail for so long, he's such a loving man. He's like, first of all, Puff, don't go do any drugs out there. Love your family. and I'm like, aren't we talking to Suge Knight who went out and like killed and beat a whole bunch of people allegedly?
00:41:49
Speaker
before I get hurt. He got knocked out by barber before he went in. oh so and change so People can change. oh it Okay, fine. Let's say he changed in jail. Fine. Whatever. um He says that Puffy's going to be out, and like like we have all said, back in the groove of things. Then I heard another girl on the same TV shows that said he's probably going to put it out a single within the next year that'll be top 40 in the country.
00:42:12
Speaker
America doesn't care. You know it's going to stream. You know it's going to Even for the sake of just hearing what is said in the song. do um it'll It'll be tantamount to the OJ If I Did It book.
00:42:25
Speaker
You know what I mean? People are going to want to know what's going on. I'd give it one stream. It'd be like every Kanye West album that's come out in the last four years. The first interview is going to be big. Wherever he goes for the interview, it's going really big. You what saying? It's a tell-all. Somebody's bring him for a book. Yep, tell-all. Yeah, he's going to... Like say, he won't bounce back, but People have come back from similar or worse.
00:42:50
Speaker
so In America, right. I mean, it's possible yeah we we have seen people come back from, like you said. Little Robert Downey Jr. Man, if I was him, I would i would go out there and be Russell Simmons' next-door neighbor.
00:43:02
Speaker
Go to Bali. Get out. Go away. just R. Kelly would have a harder time getting back from him and Puffy. Now, I do want to ask this question because I wanted to ask it last time we were on because it it was very recent when I was up.
00:43:18
Speaker
i was at I was out at ah at a bar with some friends and a Kanye song came on. And know I asked somebody in the group, I was like, how do we feel? Can we like dance to this? Can I groove to this? Like it was old Kanye too. So it was like it was like graduate, kind like good Kanye.
00:43:33
Speaker
aside like crazy Aside from Kanye going crazy, why would we not listen to the music that crazy? Yeah, don't care. he didn't do what he wrong He hasn't done anything wrong in my eyes. Has he not done anything wrong going out and dressing all this? He KKK outfit. That's wrong to me. That's wrong.
00:43:53
Speaker
yeah yeah that's That's wild shit, bro. But it's one of those things where it's like Kanye's always been on some off shit. And then at this point, you kind of wonder, well, what's what was Kanye's message behind it?
00:44:10
Speaker
That's what want to know. I want to know what's in his head. Where does that come from? That's what the message is, is that he's a Nazi. if it's old If it's old Kanye before he changed, because so if if you watch ever watched a documentary that's really good on Netflix, when his mom passed away, he kind of just went off the wall.
00:44:26
Speaker
And um prior to that, the music was good. Now, as far as listening to his music his hits, Before he went batshit crazy. I don't care. I listen to it. I listen to people still listen to Elvis. He married 16 year old, a 13 year old girl, whatever. So, but there was a lot of people like when Michael Jackson got arrested that stopped listening to his music. They're idiots. You never did anything. Yeah. Never got, never got arrested. Never convicted.
00:44:49
Speaker
R. Kelly. If, if, if, if R. Kelly, another one, I still listen to it. If it comes on, I'm not going not going to say TP2 wasn't a good ah CD. We're my favorites of all time. Tremendous. you know
Kanye West's Controversial Behavior
00:45:00
Speaker
I don't care.
00:45:01
Speaker
So, I mean, whatever. It's like wrestling Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan, they say Hulk Hogan's a racist. a racist You know, i don't dislike Hulk Hogan, the character.
00:45:12
Speaker
Terry Boella, that's a different story. I like that.
00:45:17
Speaker
right. Anybody else have thoughts on that? I'm hypocritical on it. Some stuff I can, some stuff I can't. I don't know. If I hear any kind of Kanye West song now, i'm like, pass.
00:45:28
Speaker
But I was the same way with R. Kelly, and now I'm I'll put 12 play on as soon as we get off this. Now you're back stepping into the name of love. Like nothing. Yeah. yeah the Same thing with Michael Jackson. He's not listening Michael Jackson. Now I've listened to Michael Jackson all the time. It doesn't bother me one bit. yeah James Brown did some of the most heinous shit you can think of.
00:45:47
Speaker
It never, it never bothered me for some reason. I don't know. Uh, I've got no no law on it, it just happened. Was it Chadwick Boseman's rendition of James Brown? No. I never even saw that movie. I i heard it was good, but it's a good I know the story and whatever puff they put on James Brown for that movie.
00:46:08
Speaker
Oh yeah, it was a complete lie. No, I'm sure it was i'm sure it was something. Yeah, they he didn't do too much foul shit in that movie that probably happened in real life. What's our next topic here, man? I'm over talking about puff.
00:46:22
Speaker
No, no, no, that's fine. We can keep it moving. But speaking of Kanye, what about the way, and this is a really big topic in the media, not necessarily the way that he's acting, but the way that he treats his wife.
00:46:34
Speaker
parading his wife Bianca around basically naked in public, even taking her to the Oscars and or whatever it was, Grammys or whatever, butt naked in front of all the cameras.
00:46:48
Speaker
A very controlling situation, it seems like. um Anybody have thoughts on on that this craziness, how he treats his wife? They got to be into it. They both got to be into some kind of exhibitionism, right, to the degree to where She's okay flaunting it and or being dominated to do that.
00:47:07
Speaker
And he's got to psychologically get off on people seeing it and maybe knowing they can't have it. Right. Like you can look what you can't touch. Cause that's mine. Do you parade your lady out like that? You know, I would never do such a thing, but maybe it's just some kind of, you know, there's a psychologist out there that's got the answer.
00:47:26
Speaker
i think a part of it, I think they both get off on it a little bit, knowing that they're they're calling attention to themselves without even having to say anything. i mean I mean, it's it's it's definitely so something about control involved in there that is is off. And maybe it's obviously mind control, whatever kind of control it is. well But go ahead.
00:47:48
Speaker
I think for me, I look it like the she's, I think she's an ex-model. And also, that's a grown-ass woman. i say She's okay with with looking like a ah being butt naked with a what a Pringles chip company. You know I'm saying? That's on her. like is she was she She must like that attention um or she could just wait 10 years and say she was under my control and hated Kanye. I was going say, what if it's what what if it's some sort of, yeah. could i know We got our own Kanye trial in the making right now and there's just shit we haven't heard about.
00:48:23
Speaker
Now, it does suck that he can't see his daughter, but his acts, the way he's acting right now, I see why Kim Kardashian doesn't want him to see the kids. ah that yeah she She hasn't let him see the kids. so But his actions aren't of a rational person, so I can understand that. Yeah, you're not reflecting fatherly behavior.
00:48:42
Speaker
Now, Mike, I had my my brother, the Lion Reese Penn, on from the rec room a couple weeks ago to talk some sports and entertainment. And he says he believes it's the curse of the Kardashian vagina that has caused ah Kanye to go crazy, as it previously did Lamar Odom and others. How do you feel about that situation? I think all the rest of them are doing just fine. so Lamar Odom did bounce back. He did bounce back, we must say.
00:49:10
Speaker
i haven't where is i haven't heard from lamar odom in a long time is we sure he got back rashad mccance he's won the game uh chris humphries seems to be fine chris humphries yeah nothing going on there ray he's made live money on those headphones who was the uh the basketball player blake griffin no wasn't great griffin one of them okay I think he was with one of them. I don't know which one.
00:49:34
Speaker
Blake was with ah ah there he was no he was with the their dirt younger sister. Travis Barker's doing just fine. Yeah. book was will forth to say it's like that It's like the Madden cover blitz. You know, the the Madden curse.
00:49:48
Speaker
It's not real. Travis Barker's okay, but... I mean, he looks like he's doing alright. They got a baby and everything. But he's not black, though. That's about everyone's black guys. All the black guys that the kenalties are ruined.
00:50:02
Speaker
Pretty much. Travis Barker's done a lot of drugs in his life, so we'll just put him in his own category. like just states overwhelm got He got in that plane accident, and it like burned all his tattoos off, and he just went back and got everything re-tattooed again. Shut up. real to having yeah Really? he got in plane crash, all his tattoos like burned off.
00:50:19
Speaker
He just went back and got them all redone. His whole body. He got re-tattooed. Nope. I just let it go. ah just let it go. i ain't doing all that again, especially over like scarred skin too, like
Hip-Hop Debate: Nas vs. Jay-Z
00:50:30
Speaker
burnt scarred She's got some comments here.
00:50:33
Speaker
ah thank you, Bajo. appreciate you. I'm looking at my notes to see what we're going to next. appreciate that. ah Jim Jones thinking he's better than Nas Crazy Talk. I can't believe he would ever say something like that.
00:50:44
Speaker
um Also, did you see Jim Jones get kicked off the stage by Funk Flex the other day? Because no one, there were people falling asleep in the audience to his performance. Falling asleep in the audience.
00:50:57
Speaker
I mean, with what the him the back four between him and Shannon Sharp was funny. I mean, it's, we're in an era. People say anything just to say anything. online you know what i'm saying that's why jim jones you have a a place in the whole hip-hop realm it's just that when you're a speck off of saturn and another person's the whole sun stay that speck and stay in your place okay just orbit around saturn that saturn that planet being uh cameron you're just a speck okay
00:51:29
Speaker
Nas is the whole solar system away. Right. You're in space, but you're not where he's at. You're not even close to where he's at. You're an asteroid. You're an asteroid. You're in the game asteroid. We hit.
00:51:41
Speaker
That's it. The delusion in Jim Jones is real because he's not in anyone's top 20. You know what I mean? Let alone top 20. Top 50. He ain't in anybody's top 50.
00:51:53
Speaker
He was on, what was he on, Drink Champs talking about name one Nas album you could you could play front to back without pausing or skipping a track. It's like, name one your albums to where we don't skip a track.
00:52:06
Speaker
We have one song. He had one song, Balling, and that was it all right, now he has some good features on camera and stuff. ah But nah, get out of here. First of all, Nas is one of most people would have him in their top five, top ten rappers of all time. Now, when you put Jim Jones up against that, i we be, help me out here. I don't even know where I'm going. Look, man, it's the second Jim Jones to die by drinking his own Kool-Aid.
00:52:30
Speaker
He cannot, he can't even have that conversation, especially with Nas, because like, it's not even ours is the only like legacy rapper that's been putting out just bangers for the last like 10 years like still every album he's put out in the last like 15 years probably has been superb from life is good on. They've all been great.
00:52:53
Speaker
They've been different than they were then, but they've all been great. So I, I don't know, man. That's he, I'm sure he did it just to get some pub and get people like us. He never, he, hypnoized they used to beef back in the day, back when Cameron was beefing with Nas. So,
00:53:08
Speaker
Jim always, stay he's never really liked him. I feel like me and me and Dion going to the gym and and me asking, know when Dion gets up off the bench press, being like, just leave it. Don't don't take nothing off. I'm getting right on there.
00:53:21
Speaker
I can't hit the bar, man. I'm just talking about it. For the people at home, do not do not go Google Jim Jones. Do not look him up. Don't give him the credit. It's not dont even yeah worth the time. So now i do have a question here to parlay off of this.
00:53:35
Speaker
The classic New York rapper question. Who do you have Jay-Z or Nas? Whoever wants to start. I'm going Nas, bro. I'm going Nas just off the strength of the last 10 years. just off I mean, like the last seven albums he' he's put out have all been great.
00:53:51
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and jason's Whoa, time out. Not at all. they yeah I think they have. And Jay-Z's released one album in like... Yeah, it's it's serious it's really what you're in the mood for because it's it's hard to compare somebody who's active and not active.
00:54:02
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That's the point. best so How about this? Let me rephrase this. In their prime. Let me rephrase that. Jay-Z. better production. Well, get the I mean, if we're gonna go off record sales or what whose tunes were hotter, we're gonna probably have to say Jay-Z, but I'm gonna take a lot of that credit away knowing he jacked so much of his lyrics. He jacked so many of his rhymes that some of hit some of his hottest bars weren't even his. Actually, most almost all of his hottest bars weren't his.
00:54:31
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Shout out Jazz O. So it's like, who do you give give credit for? It's like, did you say, oh look you're like the hottest ghostwriter alive? You what mean? are you a real artist?
00:54:43
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Okay. Jay-Z, you can listen to at any point and be okay. Nas, sometimes like I got to be in the mood to listen to Nas. I think Nas has like 10 really good albums.
00:54:58
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that good I think Jay-Z's got like three. Ten really good albums? yeah Well, Nas has also released like 20 albums. so yeah yeah is he' still Yeah. I Am wasn't that great. Stillmatic wasn't that great.
00:55:10
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You think Stilmatic was not a really good album? You had the Jay-Z disc. I liked I Am. i I Am was good too. Godson was really good. Godson had two or three songs.
00:55:22
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All the magic, all three of those magic albums, all the ah Life is Good was fantastic, very underrated. There's a lot of really good albums in there. the magic The magic started to get me off track a little bit. Kings and Z's was good. these was real That was girls were good. But I mean, in my lifetime, reasonable doubt.
00:55:40
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ah Jay-Z's, his first four or five were were really good. um ah Show Me What You Got, that was terrible. That where that that CD was on. Blueprint 2 is that one, I think.
00:55:51
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That was the one with the Dale Earnhardt video. Yeah, that was terrible. That was Kingdom Come. Yeah, King's Disease. They were. But Jay-Z had like five, six great albums in a row and then Kingdom Come, Trash. And then...
00:56:02
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king's disease that they were but jayz has like five six great albums in a row then kings kingdomcom trash and then ah That 444 was really good. That one was really good. Really good. you know that Was that the last album that came out with it?
00:56:16
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That was the last one. 15 years ago. 10, 15 years ago? still put Jay-Z's over now because I know...
00:56:25
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you know I need a whiteboard. i need an Excel spreadsheet. We've got to get some
Impact of Cancel Culture on Comedy
00:56:30
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surveys. The next Ballers, Brant, and Bravado is going to be basically just like breaking down why Nas is better than Jay-Z. I like it. I want that in my life.
00:56:39
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I just don't see it. And also, Jay-Z won the war because who started working for who? Mike's going to end up like, so in conclusion. Jay-Z wins. Who worked for who at the end?
00:56:53
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the end of their beef, who worked for who? I mean, I don't know that that necessarily says you're a better artist. I just think that means that is big. But I don't know that that makes you the better artist, per se. That is big, though. Having control of the company that an artist is under doesn't necessarily make them a better MC.
00:57:09
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I mean, i just saying Jay-Z is not a subpar MC. He's not an average MC. He's way above average MC. and no one's saying that It's just that they do different types of music. The only similar Nas album Jay-Z's had is that 444 album, which is similar to what Nas would do.
00:57:27
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And then now King's Disease is something similar to what Jay-Z would do. So it's just different. It's hard to compare like this. Okay, like me and Omar and a couple other homeboys talk about this.
00:57:38
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Me, my boy Lil Shane, and Kevin will talk about this.
00:57:42
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Mobb Deep versus Outkast. Some people say Outkast. Stop it. Some people say Mobb Deep. You see Outkast that Cadillac right there behind me? yeah i should I should say the same thing, Mike. I said there's no doubt that it's Alcalf. A lot of people say Mob. I I like Mob. It has more classic historical beats.
00:58:04
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that straight hip-hop. Mobb Deep's Shook Ones Part 2 was voted the best hip-hop instrumental of all time. They did have really great beats, but Outkast had They had two great albums.
00:58:18
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Outkast has like six more albums. I don't know about that. I did not like the last one. I did not like last one. and not like zero misses Mobb Deep, the only Mobb Deep joint I didn't like was the one with G Union. I did not like that at all.
00:58:32
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you were You were down with G-Venal Hell? that was there That was your stuff right there? a Hey, hey. It wasn't bad. They were like 16. It was bad. They were like 16. It bad. It's okay. They were like 16. That's true. They were like 16.
00:58:46
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I'm not mad at them. I'm just saying that you can't outcast I had outcast them. It's a group Mount Rushmore. they They won the album of the year Grammy, like the big Yeah, but that Grammy's going mean nothing. that That's subjective.
00:58:58
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Neither does whatever. Puffy won a Grammy, so don't i dont know be puffy one a grammy so don't don't say that. He didn't win the album of the year Grammy. He didn't win a big Grammy. Which one Puffy win? i don't but Like I said, I hate... oh Exactly. so But he won one.
00:59:10
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Why would I pay attention to that? G says, Tupac called the mob sleep...
00:59:18
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You got to say it the way he says it if you're going to do the comments. Okay, Bajo? I need you to be more animated. you're a voice You're a voiceover artist. I need you to be better with that. Come on. I can't do Tupac. Hey, Tupac called a mob sleep.
00:59:29
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That's what you, something like that. Be more animated. Anyways, let me get a couple more G comments in here, but I do have ah another topic real quick. She's a willing partner, I'm sure. Obviously, that was referring to our earlier.
00:59:40
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um conversation about Kanye and Bianca. ah The football player, what was his name that dated the Kardashians? ah well bre bush but Reggie Bush. Reggie Bush!
00:59:51
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He was the OG. He's doing okay. He's got foundations. yeah right raise schools He's schools. He's actually, I think, the one that got away. Yep. And he got his Heisman back.
01:00:02
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So he's really good. Yeah. He also says, tra Lunchbox Larry. Shout out. We love you, Larry. Travis Barker was in a plane crash. Repeat a saying similar to Mike. So he's immune from the curse.
01:00:15
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GS, who is hotter comic now? Josh Johnson or Ali Sadiq? I'm not sure Josh Johnson. Josh Johnson is the one on The Daily Show. He's the light-skinned guy that's kind of soft-smoking, but very clever. I'm not a big fan of Ali Sadiq. I think he's okay. I don't think he's that funny.
01:00:33
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yeah He's not terrible. just yes not for Not for me. I like his... the next now that A lot of comics are really gimmicky, man. Yeah. Nobody's really got great material. They just have like a certain way that they deliver it.
01:00:49
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And it's like, oh, well, there's the draw. That's a dude that does the fucking auto-tune, right? Who's that? Ali Sadiq. He just goes in the crowd, does crowd work and shit, and just... You know, I've actually... i'm I've never watched any of his stuff. I've heard of him. He's bad. but one but He has a good t good skit on ah ah wearing boots and fighting Mexicans in jail. if That was pretty good. Straight crowd work. I mean, not to take nothing off of him. He's funny, but... <unk>t like I haven't heard any material. It's all crowd work.
01:01:17
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I like Josh Johnson a lot, but he's also more... he's He's very, you have to get used to him. He's like an acquired taste kind of. So he's on The Daily Show, which means obviously he works with a bunch of other coworkers who are mostly Caucasian.
01:01:32
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So um him being the only black person on the show has to tiptoe the line of race kind of. So he kind of tries to play it like maybe like some of the black people have it on Saturday Night Live before, stuffoled kind of, I guess. going to go right into that. going to square peg, square hole that one and be like, this Caucasian loves Josh Johnson so.
01:01:51
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I went and saw him like two months ago. i think he's great. I've never heard him. Shout out my brother. check Bajo, you act like I don't know these things. I see you. Oh, heard that.
01:02:04
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um He said, we need a new version of Paul Mooney. Shout out our brother. That's true. We do. Now the cancel culture is over. We do. We do. like Now that cancel culture is over.
01:02:16
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who who's got this he skipped his last comment, man. Scoot on a barbecue. I'm about to no i'm go back to it, but this was relevant because of the compet yeah comedy talk. ah wonder I wonder, Baj, I'm going to ask you, what comedians got canceled other than Chris D'Elia?
01:02:30
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You know, Chris D'Elia is actually back out here. don't think it's very funny. What comedian got canceled? I always hear comedians talking about cancel culture, ruin comedy, but what comedian got canceled? Cancel culture hasn't ruined comedy, but what it did do...
01:02:44
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From a comedic standpoint, it had your it had you writing material like you had to walk on eggshells because you didn't want to offend people. Like now, I think the only thing you really can't speak on.
01:02:58
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oh thanks, man. Hey, Trace. Hey, Trace. don't know why I yelled like that. We want to hear from her, man. Get him out of here. Get her in here. Don't try to team up with gingers.
01:03:10
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how you It had us writing material like we like we couldn't just say almost anything. nothing you know and That feels good again. and it's kind of just like When Louis C.K. came back, despite his perversions, that's when we knew, okay, they tried to cancel the white guy, white Jewish dude, and he came back.
01:03:32
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We're good. Speaking of gingers, I don't even know why they came. I understand what he did. and just like ah What's his name with the show I loved? mom you of my damn self. Curb your enthusiasm.
01:03:43
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No, no, no. Besides that, ah it was on it was on Netflix. That canceled on its own. talking about um it was on Netflix. Master of None, the ah Indian guy. oh Oh, Aziz. Aziz. Oh, Aziz. They canceled him also. And that Master of None show, he did something with these chicks.
01:04:00
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Not like Louis C.K. where he whacked his stuff, but he did something. At least Louis asked. He gave a warning, too. He's like, I'm about to beat this meat. He's like, hey, yo, I know what want. I'm about beat this meat right here.
01:04:13
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We're about to kibbage. I'm about to kibbage your sauces. like you gotta You can watch. You can go to another room. You can get a face guard, whatever you want to do, but I'm about to do this. Respect to him. Respect to him. respect to louis ck and then you know he made one of the most banger jokes about it you know he said uh something to the degree of you know one of the things about having perversions is that they're personal he's like everybody knows my thing now he's like i like to jerk off in front of people like it's not even a secret anymore well that's that's the thing like like growing up like uh when i was talking to lamar um
01:04:50
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When it comes to Jonan and stuff, when we when we grew up and we're cutting up on each other, if you can say the best shit about yourself, regardless of anyone says around you, it's not going to affect you. If you know your hairline's jacked up, if you know your teeth are crooked, if you know your breath stink, joke about that internally or externally, and then they will say something and it will hurt.
01:05:09
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So that that's how I used to cut up on motherfuckers, because if I knew my shit was fucked up, but whatever you say is not to affect me. But I got 10 more things on you that you don't even know. Look at these chalkboard erasers right here.
01:05:21
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but Those are two caterpillars just hanging out. Yeah, the two caterpillars in the summer. No orange stripe down the middle. Like two bearskin rugs. know what time it is up here. Look at the badger's nest.
Discussion on Sexual Assault Cases Involving Celebrities
01:05:31
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um let's get Let's get to some comments here real quick. We'll get the Instagram comments.
01:05:36
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ah Tony Savage still tapping in. We really appreciate you, brother. The governor always... ah um ah so I'm sorry. Okay. Ooh, my bad, Tony. I don't check Instagram while I'm on.
01:05:47
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This is going back to the Diddy case. ah He said the government always, always does injustices in these sexual assault Me Too cases. ah So that could have been actually the Vince McMahon case.
01:05:59
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And then he said r Kelly isn't guilty either. So Tony Savage does not think R. Kelly is guilty. That's a tough one. I wasn't thinking. Wait, what was R. Kelly charged with? Peeing on a 15-year-old girl. Colt-like stuff with the women, Colt-like.
01:06:14
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He was not charged for peeing on women. He was charged for having a relationship with like a 14-year-old for a long time. yeah like which laugh her It was wild, bro.
01:06:25
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He had the relationship with Aaliyah in public anyway. But it wasn't her. It was somebody else. Oh. there there were There were multiple women. right i love I love how he's actually going to get her. That's fantastic.
01:06:38
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Champ, we're going to get back to your comment in a second on this because i go I'm going back to hip hop after this. He said, let's see what Tracy has to say about Puffy. Is she is she coming to give her a penny? I called her up.
01:06:52
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ah Okay. Is she going to be a ghost like you? Come on, ja on Oh, no. I'm mad.
01:07:04
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I'm so mad. Ginger, take over. Don't let him back in Get him out here. Yes! Ginger, take over. Tracy! We love You got any gingers at the house, Dion?
01:07:15
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but you ah No. Bronson shit's red, though. Calling all gingers. Like, comment, and subscribe if you like gingers. but we a meet them Tracy, give us your thoughts on this whole Diddy case.
01:07:30
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man, if you have enough money, you can do whatever the hell you want. That's what I have seduced by all of this. He paid somebody off, either that or they're just as sick as him and they're in all the videos and don't want to be exposed. It's one of the two or both because there's no other excuse. Like this is this is just bullshit at this point. Anything is possible. they give the back to him?
01:07:53
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What's that? Do they give the videos back to him? wow
01:08:00
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I think they keep it in wash later. Somebody's whacking. Somebody's whacking to themselves in those videos. He owns that video. That's his video. That's his spank thing? They were there. Why are they whacking off to the video, Dion?
01:08:13
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They were there. He didn't tell. He didn't snitch on the body. No, I'm saying the people that you're claiming to be whacking off to the videos were there. they don't know no, no. talking about the police when they have to review those videos.
01:08:23
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They're playing target practice on monitor. Those videos are coming out. I got it. you know They're coming out. Those videos are they're going to be available. oh Oh, my God. If they're not already on the dark web. The hotel video was like seven years old, and he paid 50 Gs to that person to race it, but they still released that thing. That's why she Cassie got $10 million from that hotel, ah whatever company that is.
01:08:48
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Bajo, we're going to need you to get a green screen if going to use these fake backgrounds. We know that that's not your house, first of all. But now because Tracy looks like a ghost. She's just pale. That's just because she's pale. No, she keeps disappearing. I'm glittering like this.
01:09:03
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Hold on. Hold on. It's because you don't have a green screen and you're using the background. That's why. Anyways, um so Tracy, do do you think he's going to serve any jail time at all? there's Some are saying to a year and after to two years. Some people are saying no, not at all.
01:09:17
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I don't think ah i don't think he will at all. I think they're going to say, hey, time served. You did your time. Yeah. I concur. Yeah. yeah How do you think the women are? And then we didn't even get a purple off like and then he's just like he's going to get he's going to get a free walk like that. Yeah, we didn't even get a purple walk, but he's going to you're going to see the free walk. I bet like when they release them, oh, it's going to be televised everywhere, which is bullshit. Where's my purple?
01:09:43
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Hey, you guys leave Puffy alone. He's going to go out the court. He's going to do a little shimmy shimmy. You leave Puff alone. Dion, you were in them videos.
01:09:54
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That's right. I was. I was. I was there. I was there. you got You thought the Punisher was something. i was the executioner when they called me up. And you were practicing your shots. was, hey, whatever he used, what I let let out, that's on him.
01:10:11
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He wants to rub that so well. Whatever, bro. We know you weren't there. You're too dry. You don't have baby oil dripping from you. youre I've seen your elbows in your hands. I'm not actually. Whoa! Time out, time out, time out. I will talk about some zombie feet if you want to go there, OK? You know who the hell I'm talking too. Those are kids.
01:10:32
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I haven't seen talons like that since i seen a bear chest of payment going up the screen. We still tell Chloe about her creepy callers because of you. Oh, yeah. The things. He had the little claws out. Hey, whoa. Man. I've never seen Toes throw gang signs while wrestling. I've never seen that before.
01:10:48
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Like, I know she was a Crip, Lutter, GD. I just didn't know. I got nervous. Well, now the new thing is g grippers. Now they're called g grippers, apparently. That's what my nephew taught all these kids around here. Now they're calling all their feet g grippers.
01:10:59
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What the hell they're gripping on them. <unk>s Newsflash, I hate feet. I hate feet. I hate all feet. I just don't like feet going near me. I just, you couldn't pay me suck someone's toes. Couldn't do it Okay.
Cultural Attitudes and Internet Access
01:11:10
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Ducks or feet? Which one is it? You can't have both.
01:11:12
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Both? No. i don't care if it's Beyonce. I will not touch her feet. Won't do it. Good to know. Not the zombie feet, says G. Not the zombie feet! She had walker feet, man. It was crazy.
01:11:26
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Walker feet. G said they'll be on Pornhub. What, the videos? The videos? Yeah, the puffy videos. Yeah. In VA, you can't get on Pornhub in VA. I was about to say, no! How do you know that? That was my favorite journey.
01:11:41
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Can't get on Pornhub in VA? You can't. You you can't. Now they got these, are your 18 restrictions like You can, but you have to like scan your your driver's seat. What's wrong with that?
01:11:54
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What could go wrong? Why don't you want to explain how do you know? This is where my perversions look you know How do you not know? Y'all are in VA too. Maybe some people use other sites for that. Deon's living that clean lifestyle now. okay Yeah, I would never ever that. I would never do that. I would never...
01:12:17
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uh you know look on the site i've never go to all a different site i would never get a vpn why would i get a vpn i never heard of it why do people do that i don't like he as a boy he's really on no no i fee finder is the thing i hate feet it is i truly hate feet with a passion i about to be so i trust in i so i can't stand feet like it's you walk on them they're dirty And the fact that some women want you to rub them. Nah, nah, nah. Get some things on the ground. about your dog's feet? Trey likes hot sauce on them.
01:12:49
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and first of all First of all, he has paws, not feet. has paws. Okay. I don't touch those either. Doggy daddy. ah I would like to say. Now, I don't know this for sure because I've never perused any of these kinds of sites.
01:13:06
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But... I hear that poo that if you cannot get onto Pee Hub, you try a little Pee Movies here, and that might get you to where you need to go. But I don't know. That's just something I heard.
01:13:18
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I don't look at those things. Larry might be onto to something. ah Larry, Dion still uses... mag Maybe.
01:13:29
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I subscribe to Maxim. So what? Can we... not next What was that al bunny magazine the was the Al Bundy magazine? Bundy magazine? Oh!
01:13:42
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Look, i right I still look at... Let me look it up. Damn, what was the... Black Tails?
01:13:49
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i I still have all the... I thought you just called them the nudie mags. When we went to Vegas. Black Tails was one. um Maxim was like the just the swimsuits.
01:14:02
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Man, what's another joint? um Whatever Pinky was in back in the day. Back and i used to rock the Velour sweatsuits. webe you know what I'm talking about. The Fat Farm joints. let's go Yo, the name of the name of Al Bundy's favorite porn magazine was called Biggins.
01:14:15
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Biggins? Biggins! I'll take that too. Come on down. big hill yeah Shout out to Rock Chalk, True Crime. Thank you for joining. Lunchbox Larry. rock she She is spitting out those videos, man.
01:14:29
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champ ross rayous She saw him when they saw Chavez arrested by ice. o We'll talk about that in just a second. Waiting for him. Puffy just get out. Said it's going to be like old times.
01:14:40
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We'll see what happens there. And yeah, shout out. I have one last joke. Yeah, go ahead. About the big girls. I'm stealing it from the the league. you know They used to call me the herder. Yeah, yeah.
01:14:54
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Anyone else?
01:14:56
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yes I know exactly what episode we're talking about. Yeah! Yeah!
01:15:05
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Tonight's episode of Ball and Buds is brought to you by Beer. Beer and Biggins Magazine. You call them girls coming down the street. You call them girls coming down the street? All you hearers.
01:15:17
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Peach, if you comment one more time on this stream without answering my text message, I swear. I swear. swear. You need that text for talking to your chat. You need that text message. This is the biggest slap in the face. Like, I'm going to talk to you here for not here. It don't work sometimes. It don't work. It don't work. I'm literally like, I know I texted you. Just anyways.
01:15:39
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Chip Ross says, D is looking behind the counter at 7-Eleven on the bottom left. Not the bottom. Yeah, I mean. Can get that? You know? They know me. They know me, these 7-Eleven, these parts, okay?
01:15:52
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01:16:08
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With a bunch of, oh, they're great. You got to watch them. She listens to him all the time because he's trying to figure out how she can get away with killing me. And I'm on to that shit. I don't suggest that you give her this channel then. Yeah, don' don't tell him to follow that channel. But tell him to follow the channel.
01:16:22
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But I do want everybody to follow Rock Chalk. If you do like true crime, that's a tremendous shout out. They always support the channel here as well. Down in Australia. um Pete says, Dion can't use his computer because it will be David Blaine before you finish.
01:16:37
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Is that an inside joke? It's a big inside joke. You can't do that. I used to go to Dion's house and I used to i used to use Miss Linnell's computer.
01:16:49
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My bad. Jesus fucking Christ. yeah what yeah this for Language. yeah was um But I used to use the computer and i used to open a bunch of tabs.
01:17:02
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funny grace And the tabs would crash the computer. Yeah, it you would just pretty much. It would disappear. Disappear. I'm like, damn.
01:17:13
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And we're feeling out something and that shit would just be gone. The original meme of turning on your computer is like...
01:17:24
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Little Shane of Brandon almost got caught one time. That's another story. We'll get offline. i ain't doing that shit on here. Oh, he said he's commenting on his phone. I know. That's the worst part. I showed his comment just to see just to show how much of an asshole he is, but that's fine. All right, that's cool. Obviously, you don't want to be on the baseball stream with me and Mike. That's cool.
01:17:41
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Whatever. We don't want you anyway. I want i want i want to see Peter on ah um on a podcast. Well, you know, he can he has to actually answer the phone and come on. That's the problem. I invite him all the time. Show people the neck beard. What is Starling? What is Starling?
01:17:53
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Is that an app or something? What is that? Elon Musk's internet satellites. Does he have a monopoly down there or something with the internet?
01:18:06
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That would be shame. I have no idea. was
01:18:10
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Champ, remember them liquor stores that had the video section in the back and you had to walk through the chimes for everybody? oh Oh, yeah. They used to have a score video store. tacketss By Tackett's Bajo, where you could walk in and they at the back they head the the duty section and, ah you know,
01:18:28
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How old? At what age? Because there was an age where I got, where I had no shame. If I was going to buy a new porno flick, it's not like I would would even walk around and pretend I was looking at other movies. Go to NBC. Go to NBC.
01:18:41
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Manassas video copy. Manassas video copy. monasss video Is that what that stood for? No, no. No, that's what it stood for.
01:18:51
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The Manassas video club. I never knew that. My brother used to work there. My brother used to work there. it used to That's right. Yeah, did he did used to work there. Yeah, it was like when I used to, i had to go to the school to get my degree.
01:19:03
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All right, Mike. We had to, ah I used to walk up to the one in Dumfries and see Mike was working there. And I walked in there and it was like one those weird things when you see someone's dad up in there. It's like, what are you doing here? What are you doing here? What somebody's death what are you doing here? What are you doing here? like what You got to put that shit in the black bag. We know what's in that black bag. like mike Mike told some ah funny stories about how when he worked there, someone tried to return like a dildo one time.
01:19:31
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And I was like, you can't trade his back open. Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Did he work on the one that was on Route 1? Yeah, yeah, he worked on that one. Yeah. There's two. two on There's three on Route 1, but yeah.
01:19:41
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Because my brother worked at the mall also. But yeah, it's I used to go there. Every time on my break, i used to walk up in there and talk to him. It was funny stuff. lot of comedy. Oh, boy. Because the characters that would walk up in there. Jesus. Let's see what we got here. We got some more comments from Bianca. Shout out. Hey, how you doing? Hey.
01:20:00
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Bianca, we appreciate you tapping in. She's part of the Rock Chalk crew. she's tar She's part of the True Crime pod. G says it's Elon's internet, referring to Starlink. Yep, so it's its internet services. Mike was saying.
01:20:14
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ah Rock Chalk says T-Mobile had it for free. I did not know that. Interesting. my mom G says not taking it back to Tackett's Mill. Yeah. The old Tackett's Millie, where Clever D still likes to attend all the time.
01:20:28
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um Let's see. They have a Mexican restaurant down there, Dion. They're Hector's, yeah. They got a cigar spot right next to it, black owned joint. I went there one time with my uncle, and the people taking our order 1,000% knew like seven English words.
01:20:43
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Oh, yeah. oh And we were like, oh, yes, this is the place. Frozen margaritas are a fire. boom My homegirl Sarah, we go there sometimes. That's the spot right there. Hector's right on the water. Sort of like if you walk into the Chinese joint and you see the little kids doing homework, you know the food slaps.
01:20:57
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yeah Oh, yeah. and Or if they're the ones taking their the money at the register. You damn skippy. Doing that real child labor law shit.
01:21:06
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That's how it is here, man. I'm not going name the Chinese joint, but if you come up on new one, make a right and then make a left. By food line? Hey, hey. It's always an Asian joint by a foot buy food line.
01:21:18
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Yep. especially down there.
01:21:25
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Bianca, shout out. We love to support people here on the podcast. What kind of music do you do? Yeah, put it on here. Put it on here. wellll We'll listen to it. People need to support this channel.
01:21:36
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Yes. Let us know. Throw it in the chat. Yep. Now you need a new theme now. Yeah, there you go Rock shock. New theme. Let's get it going. right. So before we get out of here, Mike does have to leave and I have to actually go take care of some business myself.
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I do have one question I want to ask before we get out of here to go back to where we were earlier. As Champ Ross was talking about um to bring it all back to full circle when he said outcast skewed on the
Top Hip-Hop Lyricists and Ranking Criteria
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Barbie.
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I would like to know, because me and Clubber D were talking about this on our stream the other day, and I just want to get y'all's thoughts and Clubber D can add to his. Top hip hop MCs of all time.
01:22:14
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Now I'm talking lyricists. I'm not talking like Lil Wayne. A lot of people like to say Lil Wayne is like a good rapper or whatever. I'm talking lyricists. Top five hip hop MCs.
01:22:25
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That's going to be subjective, man. Everybody's got different favorites. course. I know. That's why I want yours. And then Mike's, I'm not asking you to have the same. we don't have the consensus on it. All right. Let's go with Weeby first.
01:22:37
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ah Top of my head. Top five. My favorite rapper, Pharoah Monch, is my number one rapper. He's my favorite. I'm like one of five people on the planet, but that's my guy. Pharoah Monch.
01:22:49
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What was Pharoah Monch's best song? uh there's a song called ptsd off the post-traumatic stress uh disorder album that's phenomenal um there's they're they're almost all good there's almost there's no whack lyric at all there's no bad verse i do love a fair work ear monster kind of hit um so pharaoh kendrick i've been a kendrick dude since day one um gotta put pak and Nas and Jimmy. Time out, time out, time out, time out, time out. I hate to jump in.
01:23:23
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when When we do this hip hop list, can we just like say, all right, current or not current?
01:23:30
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because everyone's going say kind of cliche shit. or Yeah. Yeah. If you're saying cliche right now, right now. Well, how many real hip hop artists are there now anyways? A lot. There's a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot right now. It's just, do you listen to Underground or do you not listen to Underground?
01:23:44
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<unk>ill I don't listen to drill rap, and that's kind of big. that young i couldn't tell you one Young Dirt song, but I know other people like Benny the Butcher. But he's not a little bit more their lyricist. Yeah, OK. You know, Rome Streets. You got Mayhem Loren.
01:23:57
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you got Rock Marciano. You got a lot of people that aren't on the radio that are big. So it's like when when we say, what's the best artist? Are you just doing c Clay Shite shit or current shit? That's where I'm kind of wondering.
01:24:08
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I think it would just be like each person's top five, regardless of time. Okay. Yeah, i don't I don't think it really matters. And to me, to be completely honest, I'll answer Clubber D's question. I don't listen to that music either, so I wouldn't know who any of those people are.
01:24:23
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And I really don't listen to many hip-hop artists outside of the ones that that we've mentioned. Mike mentioned Kendrick. Clubber D mentioned Griselda. um you know Other than that, maybe J. Cole, maybe a couple of other underground roppers. I know someone said earlier, Rome Streets.
01:24:41
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ah he's He's pretty good. I like him. But like for the most part, I mean, if it were me, I'll give you... Go ahead, Mike. Finish your list. before No, that was my five. I gave my five. Okay, cool, cool, cool. G shouts out with Black Thought.
01:24:54
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um so ill ah Go ahead, Bajo. Go ahead. Is he in your top five? What you got? Black black Thought is in my top five. um Also my top five. I'm a huge Keith Murray fan.
01:25:05
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I know it goes back, but I love Keith Murray's... ah the most beautiful thing in the world. i've That was dope. And the self-titled song was dope too. um I like methods Method Man's rhyme style. I don't think he's ever disappointed.
01:25:20
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He's still one of my favorites. Love Method.
01:25:26
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Man, as a collective, I was a big fan of the Little Brother. So I'm not going to give it to just one of them. Ooh, Little Little Brother. little brother And man, shit.
01:25:39
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Nipsey Hussle. I like nips ni Nipsey Hussle does a lot for me. I know he's a little West Coast. But for the for the dreamer, for the artist, for the creative, Nipsey Hussle will get your blood going.
01:25:52
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Okay. right. Was that five? i didn't I didn't count. That's five, I think. Yeah. Okay, cool. Cover D, do you want to let everybody know? I know we talked about this the other day. I'm just going to name just...
01:26:04
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Scarface. ah Love Scarface. Jay-Z. I'm going dip into the underground with ah
01:26:15
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J-Zone. oh m J-Zone. I'll do another underground. Bajo kind of mentioned him. Self-titled. And rest peace, Sean Price. That's what I'll do. okay and and That's self-titled. Doom deserves a really good runner-up on that, too,
01:26:33
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Yes, he does. i and i do Yeah. I mean, it's yeah So and one of ah my favorite hip hop artist, MC of all time is Karis One.
01:26:45
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Always has been, always will be. um I am also going to keep it old school because I am very old school. So I am in the nature of the ah Big Daddy Kane, Cool G Rap, Rock Him sort of faction of Rhymers.
01:26:59
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um But I'll just group them into one because I do want to touch on some other good people, obviously, that we haven't touched on yet. Ghostface and Raekwon, you can put JZA in there too if you want. Ghostface is top five, in my opinion, of all time, lyricist, Ghostface is.
01:27:15
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um Andre 3000 from OutKast, we talked about them earlier. He's a top five, top 10 lyricist of all time. And I will give a shout out to...
01:27:27
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um I want to do some my underground because Clubber D touched on that and I like that. I'm going to give Lewis Logic a shout out because I did love Lewis Logic of the Demigods crew. ah But yeah, I think that, again, as we all mentioned, um it really is subjective on the time period you're thinking about. If you want to touch on that or if you want to go overall. Maybe you have it spread out or maybe you're little more old school like me.
01:27:52
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um But I think that we pretty much touched on most of the best lyricists of all times. Did we forget on anyone? And then we'll get in some comments and get out here. Champ Ross made a mention of Big L and I wanted to mention Big L too.
01:28:04
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Oh, Big L. I don't think he got the time he needed to shine for us to really see what was going to come out of him, man. Same with Conway. To me, Big L was cut off too early. Like, Jimi Hendrix was cut off. Like, if we could have heard what Jimi Hendrix did on acoustic,
01:28:24
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I think he would just reinvented acoustic music like he reinvented electric guitar. so left hand him That's a left-handed role model up there. He played upside down. And he couldn't even read music, bro. He used to count his frets before every set because he didn't even know how to read music. He did everything from memory. like That's just genius shit.
01:28:43
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That's why I take Biggie out of my top because Biggie didn't have a longevity like the rest of them. So I don't automatically put Biggie there. you know But that wasn't his fault. I'm not saying it is. Same to Big L. But you know what I mean? There's no fault. But there's no fault. You just said the argument for Big L. Big E and Big Pun, right? Same thing. That's true. You know, it's... I just want to put him up there.
01:29:04
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That's why said don't like the cliche because they were like, oh, yeah, Big E, Puck. Say anybody besides them. You know, that's where I kind of... want to hear folks stuff. I will say that if you have something about hip hop and they throw Biggie and Tupac in their tops, I'm like, OK, you're not going a far enough back or you really only listen to mainstream.
01:29:23
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Well, I mean, that could have just resonated with them. You know what I'm saying? Because remember, the style changed from KRS-One and everybody till when the NWA started selling. They want to produce hardcore gangster rap, which it up. you know so ah lot of that stuff wasn't on the radio. So, I mean, I don't really fault him too much for saying Biggie and Pac. I just think Pac has a longer discography, obviously.
01:29:46
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So I can see that. But Biggie had, what, two albums? Then that third one was, you know, whatever. None of the Y-Ns have even heard of our favorites. So, you know. Jay-Z did copy and ghost-rided and did a lot of things. so you know there's There's some people that will take that away from him.
01:30:04
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you know The whole thing with Jazzo and all that. so anyways g says well he ist jezz yet he He rhymed like Jazzo. Jazzo didn't write for him. He no no but i mean still it's still jacked his style, though.
01:30:15
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yeah he Yeah, the style, yeah, but the rhyming, the ah right writing it different. Right, right. No, I meant there was the ghost-riding. He just rapped real fast like Jazzo. So let's go let's let's talk to Rock Chalk here.
01:30:27
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ah They might make a song ah for our combat show. That would be awesome. ah Bianca writes songs for Idaho murder er murdo Murders. i guess she was i that three murders I guess you can't type that. I don't know. I thought you could type that. I didn't know.
01:30:46
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Anyways. right. So it says... We Need to Venture Out also says we can do a UFC unboxing song. We would love UFC song.
01:30:57
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Please do it. I will welcome one because I'm actually trying to change the new song. Make it the opening intro song. Plug her on. Make sure you throw her ination information on there for her. Thank you, social media maven. Bye, Jawan. Hi, man. Amazing.
01:31:11
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ah maybe and Like he acts like I'm not looking at the comments. I get I don't get them because what I do is I make sure they're relevant when I put them on the screen. I don't just put them right away because they put them in there.
01:31:21
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I got them over here, right? good My boy, Awkward m MMA Fighters in August 16th in Chicago. card What card is it going to be on? That's what I was going ask. Thank you. Oh, my bad. My bad. No, you're good. No, you're good.
01:31:35
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What card is that? Is that ah is that a an independent? Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Before Weeby gets out of here, I have a big question for Weeby. This is a sports question. Do you ever think we're going to see the NBA go back to the short styles of Royal Ambassador basketball?
01:31:53
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I hope so. Are we ever going to see shorts that short again? ah hope so. I hope not. I hope so. It made the game a whole lot more difficult when you had to worry about things falling out.
01:32:05
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A whole other aspect. play with the wrong balls I got you. Wow, pause, Bajo. These kids don't know about it. They don't understand. What do you do with that pose?
01:32:17
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that pose back on.
01:32:21
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You put those headphones back on. I had to pause for a second. Whoa, UFC 319. They've had 319 UFC fights. Who's your boy? Awkward MMA. Who What's their name? Let me think.
01:32:33
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who's your who's who's your boy awkward it me who is that what's their name do we think
01:32:40
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Anyways, while we're doing that, Michael, we know you got to get off. i actually have to get off too anyways, so it doesn't matter. We're about to peace out. Thanks for tuning in, guys. Hey, Mike will be with me next week.
01:32:51
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He is our MLB insider here on Ball & Buds, so we will be together next week on ah either Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Once me and Peach talk after the show. He did text me finally, so we'll get on and talk which day that's going to be. a pe But it will be next week, 8 Eastern. We'll have Mike Wiebe. We'll have Shane Peacher. He'll have my boy.
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The Lion Reefs pen. So make sure you check us out next weekend as well. Check me out. Okay. Oh, nice. to millionion out and that if Make sure you check me out on Monday, the Professor Seminole Mint Day 8 Eastern as well.
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01:34:06
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I need to get Michael on. and I need Bajo back on. You know saying? I got a couple people that I'm going to do pretty soon. But yeah, we got some funny stuff coming on there. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Lamar.
01:34:18
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Lamar, he bought a microphone. He's getting serious with it. Lamar, watch out for that guy. He tried to hide his nerves in that black shirt, but we seen it.
01:34:31
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We're talking about my fucking head shiny and shit. Get him. Get him. Oh, great bearded ass bitch. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Wait a minute. Wait where a little boy wait and wait a minute. I got got a couple of specs in here.
01:34:43
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say I'm not there yet. Hey, Weeby, you're going be on with me next week, but where can the people find you at? What do you got for You'll find me next week. i don' i try to I try to stay off social media. so ah find Find me on on Ball and Buds.
01:34:57
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find Do you have any final thoughts for the fans? Don't find me thought i love y'all behind him Do you have any thoughts for the weekend for our fans? Would you like to wish them any, any, uh, of July safety tips? hope you, I hope you all get to sleep. Well, I hope you don't blow up your hands with fireworks.
01:35:16
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I hope your pets and animals don't poop on the floor. and I, I hope all of you have a good July 4th. All right. Awesome. Thank you, brother. We appreciate you. Uh, Mike, we'll be coming out. He'll be with me next week. And finally, last but not least, my brother, Bajo, my love eight.
01:35:33
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What do you got for the fans? Oh, man, everybody take care of one another. Look out for one another. um You know, give give those homeless people on the corners of a Wendy's Frosty Key tag if you got one.
01:35:46
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It'll change their life. But, yeah, take care of one another, man, and just try to grow and get closer to God if you believe in that. And where can they find your comedy account at? Oh, man. Honestly, my comedy is a little stagnant right now. i'll be honest. I've been building my business, paidentertainment.com, doing voice work, voice acting.
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01:36:19
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And what does that stand for? What's the acronym? there Pay all your dues. Boom! Let's go, sucker. I like it. I heard Baja did a voiceover in a two-dog porno movie.
01:36:30
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Yup. it was It was a cartoon fluff film. I got paid. Hey, show me the bag. All had to do was some, some, some, oh.
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What that? Wow. we Do that again, do that again. o
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Sounded like a, don't do it again without him paying you. It's not going to turn your stomach like that Bad Bunny audio. Good night, everybody.
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