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Episode 246: TRANSFER TUESDAY!
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Southampton –It's been a bisy week of transfers but only in one direction! We talk about all of that, and even some bids we've made to bring players in!
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Introduction to Podcast
00:00:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back to the Daily Southampton part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. My name is Greg Elliott and as always today joined by my good friend and wonderful co-host Zach Ingo Finch.
00:00:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
How do you mate, you alright?
00:00:24
Zak
Yeah, not too bad, mate. It's build-up now, isn't it? It's not long before. I just really wish, Greg, that some of the news that we could talk about today wasn't like really weird, strenuous links from a journalist somewhere that said something maybe.
00:00:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it.
00:00:42
Zak
Except all of our outgoings, which are like being reported by mainstream outlets.
00:00:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. but let Look, like look, look, look. It's
Transfer Tuesday & Discreet Dealings
00:00:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
everyone's favourite day of the week, first of all.
00:00:50
Zak
LAUGHTER
00:00:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's get it out of the way. It's Transfer Tuesday, and these are the things, Zach.
00:00:53
Zak
but
00:00:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
What you have to do is take confidence in the fact that with Saints, frequently we have seen that you don't hear anything about the sign-ins until they're in the door.
00:01:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
They're just under the radar, quiet, calm, banged. You'll get a rumour on the Sunday, maybe, like, oh, we're going to sign a player tomorrow, and then bang, club announcement.
00:01:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
So we don't need to worry that we're not linked to anyone. It doesn't matter. It's all going to come good in the end. It doesn't matter that we've got four days until the season starts. It's fine.
00:01:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Everything's going to be fine.
00:01:30
Zak
I'm not wanting to sign people for the sake of signing them, right? like That's never what I've been about. However, is starting to get a bit like, are Again, there were meant to be three sanctioned transfers.
00:01:44
Zak
Two of those have been completed. And the other one is apparently a party ah massive massive struggle to get over the line for whatever reason.
00:01:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Radio silence. Yeah.
00:01:52
Zak
And you know that's that's on top of the fact that people you know people are still having a worry about the goalkeeper. And I know I went on a whole thing about that yesterday. But like, it's just a bit concerning because we're supposed to be winning the championship and coming straight back up.
00:02:07
Zak
And it's like,
Concerns Over Departures & Replacements
00:02:09
Zak
goodbye every single player you've ever known, which is kind of what we wanted. But we've not really replaced them a lot. don't know. Let's talk about it.
00:02:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Alright, should we get into it, mate?
00:02:18
Zak
Let's just talk about it.
00:02:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
How do you want it? You want our outgoings first or our incomings first?
00:02:20
Zak
Let's just talk about it. lets so wait We always want to end on a potential high of maybe some players coming in.
00:02:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
How do you want to go with that?
00:02:27
Zak
So let's talk about all of the players that are being butchered left, right and centre to leave our club.
00:02:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Alright, well let's do it. Okay, let's start at the top of my list and work my way down. So obviously we talked about it yesterday, but in the interest of fully covering all of the bases, Aaron Ramsdale leaves Southampton on loan with an option to buy to Newcastle for the season.
00:02:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Not entirely unexpected.
00:02:52
Zak
No, not even slightly.
00:02:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Wage packet off the bill is... I mean, look, nobody's tried to hide all summer that this was going to be the case. So, yeah We talked about it a lot yesterday. Anything else to add?
00:03:05
Zak
It it is is what it is. Weird to see someone want to leave and play second fiddle, understand why. Aaron grabs them.
00:03:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, absolutely. Also, officially leaving the club, Sonny Davis out on loan to join his dad, Kelvin Davis at Eastleigh, which is an interesting one.
00:03:23
Zak
Make sense.
00:03:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Logical youth movement out.
00:03:28
Zak
Yep.
00:03:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Uh, That's it. There's just not a lot to say about that, but you know in the interest of reading them all off, the big the big one is that. Tyler
Tyler Diblin's Transfer Saga
00:03:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Diblin.
00:03:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
We today apparently knocked back our third offer from Everton for Tyler Diblin.
00:03:43
Zak
Hmm.
00:03:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Rumours that it was £35 million up front with a potential £8 million of add-ons, and that's not hitting the price point that we want.
00:03:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
So...
00:03:57
Zak
No, pay hi pay us the money.
00:03:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's been rejected as well.
00:03:59
Zak
Simple as that. like If we end up getting like sort of 50, I can see him going for lavier money, right? I can see him going for sort of 50, 60 million quid for an academy prospect that almost left us not too long ago.
00:04:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:04:12
Zak
that you know if if he is not his head isn't going to be here, similar to like the Newcastle ESAC thing, right? then I don't necessarily want him to be here anymore.
00:04:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:04:22
Zak
You said it yourself, like, it would be really good if he had a season under the Championship, potentially come back up to the Premier League. If he is very, very heavily involved with leaving and it feels like that this is just more of an inevitability than anything else, I'm not hugely upset by it.
00:04:38
Zak
It's just a bit frustrating. But, like, we knew this was going to be the case.
00:04:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:42
Zak
There were rumours flying around January last year after Manchester United played against us once.
00:04:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely.
00:04:47
Zak
They were, like, talking about buying him. How desperate are they?
00:04:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Rumour is we're holding out for 45 million and whether Everton have deep enough pockets to dig that far, especially after completing the transfer of Dewsbury Hall today as well.
00:05:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
don't know. It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.
00:05:05
Zak
Because we we don't we don't need to sell. This is the thing where people are getting mad about the fact that, like, why are we selling our best players and we don't need to sell? It's like there's a difference between not needing to sell and then, like, from a from like financial standpoint.
00:05:19
Zak
and then needing to sell from a personnel standpoint. And like, if again, he stays and he's miserable and then he puts in bad performances and, you know, rather regardless of whether or not they should do that. And we we feel like people shouldn't down tools, they can force a move and this, that, the other.
00:05:35
Zak
Like I would rather have somebody that is unhappy and doesn't want to be here, leave and get massive payout for them than stay. And then potentially end up being a detriment down the line, you know?
00:05:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Not that I think that might be the case with him. I think i feel like he probably seems quite happy today.
00:05:51
Zak
yeah
00:05:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
He played 60 minutes on Saturday. don't think he grew up dreaming of playing for Everton, didn't he? Let's be honest. It's not one of the... like big, glorious, big clubs that he'd be wanting to move to.
00:06:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's sure, probably regular minutes in the Premier League, but it's just...
00:06:10
Zak
Yeah, it'll be where I'm at is it it will be what it will be. i don't think it will be the end of the world, but it's got to have affected him psychologically being linked, like you know, having a price tag of 100 million and then just being linked nonstop since he basically broke into the first team.
00:06:27
Zak
And basically people say, you know, regardless of whether or not you believe it, if somebody tells constantly tells you something, after a while it becomes, you know, sit in the back of your mind. And that's kind of where I'm at with it is that, you know, if if he kind of is decided, actually, no, I do want to go into better things or whatever, then I'm fine. But I'm not going to be super mad if he goes and I'm happy, happy if he stays. But I'm also not going to be one of those people that are like, well, that's it. We've thrown everything away.
00:06:57
Zak
You know what I mean? I hope you know what I mean.
00:06:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
I do. Look, it's an interesting one and it's, I'm sure, going to continue to be a main talking point until he either stays or doesn't, right?
00:07:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's going because he's such a hotly sought-after talent because of his impact last season and it's going to be it's going to be.
00:07:09
Zak
yeah
00:07:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I hope he stays and does well.
00:07:19
Zak
He probably just wants to go back to playing football in a way that, you know, ah it must be it must be you know infuriating to be surrounded with this much noise just like every time.
00:07:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:29
Zak
Just trying to do your job. like i could imagine I could imagine having like four or five people trying to contact me on LinkedIn, let alone let load like...
00:07:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:07:38
Zak
agents trying to get hold of me, et cetera, on a daily basis. and We'll see what happens, but I guess what I've tried to do you Greg, is cushion the psychological blow for if all of the three players that we didn't want to leave, leave. There you go.
00:07:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay. A
Loan Moves & Player Development
00:07:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
couple more on the out list talk about, but first time for a break and a message from our partners at Bionique.
00:08:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we are back. Okay, wrapping up the outgoing list, Zach. Our Japanese striker from, I believe from the UN21s, Takawaka.
00:08:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm sorry, everyone.
00:08:55
Zak
It's a good try, Renato, right? the guy that
00:08:57
Zak
The guy He came alongside Masuki when he joined, right?
00:08:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:09:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep, that's right.
00:09:01
Zak
Like, he was the one that immediately also... I can't remember if he immediately went out on loan to Gestapo as well. I should...
00:09:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
I believe so.
00:09:07
Zak
I should... I'm pretty sure I, like... Yeah, I talked about all of that in that episode, but it was nice to know where he is because there was a whole thing where, like, for a while, no one quite knew where he was.
00:09:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:09:19
Zak
So...
00:09:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
and so he's been seen training with uh valenciennes our french sister club uh likely to be going out on loan there for the rest of the season uh to develop and see what comes of that deal uh
00:09:33
Zak
It's good move, only 18. Sorry.
00:09:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's one of those things, right? We've got a really bloated squad at the moment, even still, even with sort of all of the players going. We're still you know not in a position to be giving all of the youth that we want to be seeing and come through minutes. And you know someone that's going to take time to settle...
00:09:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know There's all sorts of settling to do for him. There's presumably some language barrier and it's a completely different style of play to settle into. And he's really young.
00:10:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
So it's good to they make sense to go out and get him minutes, you know,
00:10:04
Zak
Yeah, so it's a positive of the multi-club model, right? Like, it's it's almost like... having a better affiliate club, you know, usually we'd send out a lot of sort of people to Eastleigh.
00:10:17
Zak
So having, you know, for me, it's a small advantage of the multi-club model against our players' experience across different leagues before bringing them back if they're good enough.
00:10:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:28
Zak
And if not, well, you know, we know what happens there. They stay for 20 years.
00:10:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:10:34
Zak
LAUGHTER
00:10:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Two more left on my list. No solid links that I can find for Joe Aribo, but a mention from Will Steele in the post-Brighton press conference that he's had a couple of offers and he's been given time off at the moment for for Headspace to try and work out where he's going to end up.
00:10:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
The implication being that he will move on this summer rather than seeing the contract out right.
00:11:02
Zak
That makes stomach sense because if not, he's gone the end of the season anyway, right? Like maybe he would re-sign with us, but I have a feeling that he kind of, this was talked about the middle of last season.
00:11:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:13
Zak
Like there was a conversation around the fact that his contract ends. He will probably be one of the ones that goes at the end of the season. it might just be a simple case that like the offers that have come in are not offers that he wants to pursue, right? Like I, you know, unless he's, unless, unless Martin's hitting him up to go back to Rangers, I don't really see it being, you know, a Premier League club or something like that.
00:11:34
Zak
And that might be why he's now having to spend some time going, oh okay, well, I thought that, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing him go to Turkey or something like that, right? Like, he might end up baking um making the move that Karl Walker-Peters almost made until he was like, actually, West Ham have come in for you, mate. He's like, oh, thank God I'm not moving to Turkey.
00:11:51
Zak
Like, it feels it feels...
00:11:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:53
Zak
It's a bit of an odd one. And, like, you know, he yeah he had such a big impact...
00:11:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:11:57
Zak
last season, but we've already we've always stood by the fact that we describe him as hot and cold, right? He's a very hot and cold player, it really, really depends on the system, depends on what's going on. He'll have a little run of form, will miss the Eribo chance if he goes.
00:12:10
Zak
But like his impact during the preseason, I think he managed like an assist. but But if he's not here and doesn't really want to be here... you know if he If he comes out turns around and goes, right, actually want to stay Southampton and see how my contract, fine.
00:12:24
Zak
But also, if we can get a bit of money for him and he goes, like I kind of would be leaning towards more of that because we don't want that many players leaving without getting a fee for them, right?
00:12:37
Zak
I don't know how I feel about that because I feel, i don't know if we need him.
00:12:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Happened a lot to us the last few years, right? It happened with Adams and then with Walker Peters and with Stewie Armstrong. It's a bit of a pattern.
00:12:48
Zak
Yeah, it's not great. And I think that you know he was one of the ones that was brought in, I think, at the start of our first relegation season. So you know he's been with the club a while.
00:13:00
Zak
I wouldn't be surprised if he decides that he wants to move on. And there was a
Joe Aribo's Future Decisions
00:13:03
Zak
lot talk around it. But the fact of the matter is, you've said yourself, there's no concrete rumours. Apparently there's been a swath of us. But I feel like if they were...
00:13:15
Zak
definite rumours he'd want to go for, like definite clubs he wanted to go for, he'd be jump jumping him, right? That doesn't seem to be the case.
00:13:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:22
Zak
don't know.
00:13:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:24
Zak
it's it's ah It's a strange one, but I don't know how much we'll miss him in the midfield that we have now. That's where I'm at.
00:13:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:13:30
Zak
If you look at Downs, Matsuki and Uribo, and also...
00:13:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:13:34
Zak
like and also
00:13:36
Zak
Shea Charles, like who you know, Eribe will be in that probably top three, but I don't know if he's somebody that I'm like every week needs to be starting. So then is he count as the bloat? Not necessarily. I think that'll do him a disservice.
00:13:51
Zak
But with all of the, you know, the fact that he might just go for nothing, I'd rather him go for something now and we reinforce down the line, you know?
00:13:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, you're right. Look, he is he's such an interesting one because he's one of these ones that has these moments. But like you say, he's so hot cold. And when he's cold, he's quite cold. I still think we should have stuck him goal at least once just to give him the full bingo card of positions played.
00:14:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
But there we go.
00:14:16
Zak
he It's almost ah similar. you know I think from from a personal perspective, he was really good mates with Onuatu and Sulemana, right? Both of them have moved on now.
00:14:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:26
Zak
So from a perspective of where you fit in in the group, that probably isn't you know that probably like plays into it a little bit as well. Maybe he's realized, like okay, all of the people that I would hang out with have kind of gone now, so maybe it's my time.
00:14:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
a
00:14:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Hmm.
00:14:41
Zak
to to move on. Also, and in a similar like vein Suleymane, he had his moments of like, you can see it there, there's like flashes of brilliance, but not enough. But I think with Eribo, there was more than most, right? Like he scored a lot, scored a lot of goals last season until a striker actually managed to take over.
00:15:01
Zak
was It wasn't a lot, but that was still moments where he decided to have a pop, scored the goal and, you know, had had his own theme music for a goal, which is great, but...
00:15:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:15:11
Zak
Yeah, I think you're right.
00:15:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
i think think part of the reason I think part of the reason he's so hot and cold is that he's quite a versatile player.
00:15:12
Zak
It's and and it's it's an odd one.
00:15:17
Zak
Yeah.
00:15:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
And like we talked about with, I think it was Smallbone a bit last year, he's just a bit of a jack of all trades.
00:15:23
Zak
Jack of all trades, master of none.
00:15:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
So therefore, he struggles in certain positions. It's just, yeah, I would be a bit sad to see him move on, but also i don't know where he fits in the lineup. So it kind of is what it is.
00:15:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
And the big one till last, Zach, but i don't think we'll have a huge amount to say on it because because we've talked it to death. It's been the talking point of the summer.
Interest in Matty Fernandez
00:15:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
No official bids as of yet we've heard of for Matty Fernandez, but the Vultures are circling.
00:15:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
12 to 13 clubs interested in the latest word being that Saints are bracing themselves for bids.
00:15:56
Zak
Is it like 12? So...
00:16:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:05
Zak
i West Ham was the one that we we heard a lot about with their owner being like, oh, fine, we can't afford him. And I'm like, you guys suck because you won't sell into us for like 40 million or whatever. and it's like, yeah, okay, boohoo, whatever.
00:16:19
Zak
But he was the one that's like, don't worry, there are other clubs.
00:16:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:16:21
Zak
And like links that I've seen that seem quite big, like Atletico and Juventus, right?
00:16:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:27
Zak
So they're quite big clubs.
00:16:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:29
Zak
Do we know what the other 10 clubs are? Are there any there that are like you know potentially sporting, I think we've talked about, which would make sense?
00:16:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
I've just seen this magic number thrown around of 12 to 13 clubs with no backing or like list of who these clubs are. Just there's lots of interest.
00:16:46
Zak
Like... Is it, is it, because it could, you know, could just be Georgie Mendes rattling the cage, right?
00:16:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:52
Zak
Because it could just be that, that like Bournemouth have, have looked at him on like, I'll have looked at him.
00:16:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:16:59
Zak
So that means that there is definitive interest for a bit. I am not saying that I do not think that there will end up being some crazy bidding war. But like, whatever we end up with, I'm just hoping we reinvest it properly, ah ah think is my big fear, because it seems like we're going to end up building out quite the war chest that,
00:17:17
Zak
and And unfortunately, I think that he will be a casualty and it must be awful. And like yeah we talked about yesterday, the whole like, was he actually ill? Again, I think that if you have severe anxiety because you're trying to figure out what you're going to do with your future, that actually counts as an illness. Yeah.
00:17:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:32
Zak
That's just me personally.
00:17:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:33
Zak
But that's kind of where I'm at with him.
00:17:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah
00:17:36
Zak
And yeah, it's going be interesting. And I worry that it's going to be a very sort of, we're going to have at least two or three games of the championship before he goes.
00:17:47
Zak
And that it's going to be one of those sort of situations, which would be really, really frustrating. and You know, like how in our first championship season, both James Waprowse and Romeo Lavia also played and Charlie Alcaraz last season.
00:17:58
Zak
It's like weird, isn't it?
00:17:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nathan Teller.
00:18:00
Zak
Yeah, exactly. More examples of...
00:18:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Teller basically scored that goal until it got taken away because it literally hit Adam Armstrong on the head. Don't forget that. Hmm.
00:18:10
Zak
I forgot about that.
00:18:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:18:11
Zak
That was good. That was a good call. But that's the point, right? It's one of those things that when it comes to... I can't work out how much of it is an explosion of noise from an agent...
00:18:26
Zak
and how much of it is like definitive. Because if what you've said is no official bids have been put in yet, you'd think, why wouldn't someone start it?
00:18:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh
00:18:33
Zak
Why wouldn't someone open it?
00:18:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, let's hope let's hope no one does. That's it.
00:18:38
Zak
can We can hope, mate.
00:18:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Fingers crossed.
00:18:40
Zak
We can hope.
00:18:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just a little piece of breaking news that's come across my screen at time of recording.
00:18:44
Zak
We're just
00:18:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Everton have called their jets on the signing of Tyler Diblin and are reluctant to meet the Saints' asking price. The valuation gap is significant and they are thinking they might not continue with that line of pursuit.
00:19:01
Zak
Oh, that that makes sense.
00:19:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
So...
00:19:03
Zak
They put in a bid for originally? 27 million?
00:19:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
27, yeah.
00:19:06
Zak
Like, which, which, you know, if you value the player at least at 50, the actual valuation originally being 100 million, what did you think you would get that for like half price are already cut down asking value?
00:19:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know
00:19:17
Zak
We don't have any to sell to you.
00:19:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:19
Zak
Like that, yeah okay, he might not sign a new contract and he might go, whatever, but like you can't, it's baffling.
00:19:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, that's good.
00:19:26
Zak
Oh, well, okay, well, we'll see. That might just throw in their toys at the pram a little bit, I'm sure.
00:19:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, that's good.
00:19:32
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Okay, and we are back. So a few that we already touched on but have seemingly progressed a bit.
00:20:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm going to start with the difficult one, Zach. And by difficult, I mean to pronounce. Armenian attacking midfielder Sprezzian.
00:20:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Apparently we have tabled a 12.5 million euro bid for him.
00:20:32
Zak
Okay.
00:20:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, so maybe that's the one for Krasnodar.
00:20:37
Zak
Here's one we've talked about previously. So the idea that we've actually put something in place is more interesting than not whether or not
00:20:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, this could be the you know that third signing that was was sort of pre-approved, but You know, it could be any one of those things making it take his time, right?
00:20:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who knows where and what in the process is the hold-up for it to to be this point. But I feel like we've mentioned him least three times on Transfer Tuesday. So we will see how that one plays
00:21:10
Zak
Yeah.
00:21:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Also... we have placed an €8 million euro offer to Alaves for right-winger Carlos Vicente, is likely to be rejected, but is sort of the foot-in-the-door style of bid by the looks of it.
00:21:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's also interest from Olympiacos and Krasnodar in him, so some kind of bidding war potential there to maybe get out of hand. but But look, there's some movement from us, right? We're we're doing things, right?
00:21:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
proper bits going out.
00:21:45
Zak
Yeah, I don't know. As I said, I like like ah but i don't want to worry. and I guess my my argument for not worrying as much is that like Jay Robinson came out of nowhere and has ended up being quite good.
00:22:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:22:02
Zak
We haven't really spoken about the fact that, you know, there was a lot of movement around Adozi and then that kind of seemed to have either cooled or not.
00:22:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:22:11
Zak
But, you know, so that might mean that we end up keeping him. You know, look at the fact that when it comes to sort of the midfield, we didn't expect Cissé to be a breakthrough prospect and he he played really well the other day, you know, considering all things considered.
00:22:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:22:25
Zak
So, yeah. you know We have a really, really healthy academy, which is you know a source of players if everything goes wrong.
00:22:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
But that's it. Right.
00:22:39
Zak
And I think it's all going to go wrong.
00:22:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:22:41
Zak
I think that there's still time for us to bring in reinforcements. And I think there's still time for them to make their decisions. And like we keep, I know it's a point we keep banging on about, Greg, right? But like, it's like selling a house.
00:22:52
Zak
All of these things start moving as soon as other things start moving. Like the whole ramsdale Ramsdale thing happened because James Trafford eventually got re-signed for Man City, which is because Burnley knew that he was probably going to go in the summer.
00:22:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah,
00:23:06
Zak
And like all of those things are like just this big interconnected web that needed to happen for Ramsdale to end up at Newcastle. And like I feel like it's just that a lot of the things that we want to do probably require all of those things to fall into place.
00:23:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
exactly.
00:23:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely.
00:23:21
Zak
And by the looks of it, you know a bit of a nice update is that would you can I would consider keeping both either Dibbling or Fernandes as a... transfer
Scouting Young Talent
00:23:30
Zak
in essentially because we've spent so much of our time thinking they're gone and at least from from my perspective trying to build it up like it's not the worst thing in the world it's not the worst thing in the world and it's not but also okay okay okay let's let's go
00:23:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
percent hundred percent
00:23:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
as well. like ah Those those are the two proper bids, but we've got a couple of other tidbits. ah less Maybe be less solid, but apparently we've sent proper scouts out for 18-year-old Drissa Guehi.
00:23:52
Zak
bit more dubious
00:24:00
Zak
Okay, he yeah, he's the one he's the one who hate is shares the name with the guy that plays for Everton, right?
00:24:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
who again yes yeah yeah
00:24:05
Zak
Where it's, yeah, he's the one who, yeah, I think it's that that for me feels a bit more solid, like actually having our staff being seen. Because yeah anyone could, any agent could say a bid has been submitted, right?
00:24:19
Zak
But having like actual members of our staff that you could identify in the stands looking at a player says a little bit more to me personally.
00:24:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah yeah no I agree uh
00:24:25
Zak
don't know how you feel about that.
00:24:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, he's 18, so I don't know if he'll be a first-team sign-in or one that will sort of slot into the under-21s in the meantime.
00:24:35
Zak
development one, right?
00:24:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
But well we'll see how that plays out and if anything comes of it.
00:24:37
Zak
Yeah, makes sense.
00:24:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we have been linked, although it said we've not expressed any formal interest, but there are links to a Pacey winger from Antwerp, Mikel-Anjay Balakwisha.
00:24:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
So... know, ah i did say we were lacking on the wings. Maybe a pacey winger is is what we're after.
00:24:57
Zak
Do we know anything about him at all?
00:24:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah,
00:25:00
Zak
Or is that literally just that? Is it just a bit pacey?
00:25:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah ah yeah he's a bit pacey. So he's from Antwerp. And yeah, he just likes taking players on. He's a wing. he's
00:25:12
Zak
i was i always worry about action.
00:25:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
I've seen him described as Sulemana-esque, as a quick-footed player. But he... Yeah, yeah he's...
00:25:22
Zak
<unk> It sounds it's sounds strange.
00:25:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's an interesting one. It will be, yeah.
00:25:26
Zak
But it's one of those things where, when it comes to Belgium, like, I look at historically, other than, like, Toby Ardeveld, right, who was Belgian, but I don't remember if brought him from the Belgian league or not.
00:25:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:25:39
Zak
I don't think so. But, like, if you look at, like, we've had, like, Gianepo, Onoacu, they've all come from the Belgian pro league. And I do think that... it almost feels like it's a bit more of a jump from some of these other places.
00:25:51
Zak
I don't quite know why that is.
00:25:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:25:52
Zak
I'm always a little bit more sceptical than I should be when I see players jump from the Belgian league to any tier of English football. But again, I'll give anyone a chance. But by sounds of it, it's that that for me sounds like an agent being like, oh yeah, Salah, they're interested.
00:26:07
Zak
but And then us having to kind of go, oh no.
00:26:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, look, it was loose.
00:26:10
Zak
Hmm.
00:26:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
I would say it's tenuous at best, but it's it's out there and it's a name. So it's it's the slim pickings I've been going on this week, mate. It's...
00:26:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's where we're at. And I guess before we wrap up, a couple of Saints entirely related, but other interesting transfers.
00:26:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ugachukwu now signed to Burnley from Chelsea, a permanent deal.
00:26:41
Zak
we Weird one, that.
00:26:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
haven't been able to find a fee for that one, but...
00:26:44
Zak
weird Weird one in general, because it's like, I understand why he probably doesn't want to say Chelsea. He's probably not going to get game time and he probably would have been sent out on loan. After having to struggle through a relegation last season, struggling to go through a relegation again,
00:26:59
Zak
You know, maybe that's disrespectful to Burnley, but like, let's face it, we all make an assumption that the three teams that go up nowadays go straight back down. But like, obviously, if they go down, he'll be relegated with them because he will be contracted to them.
00:27:12
Zak
And unless he gets sort of goes elsewhere, it just seems a bit, seems a bit strange, like all power to him.
00:27:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. So so the...
00:27:17
Zak
I hope it works out, but a I would have liked to have kept him realistically we were just going to pay the money. But I guess it's probably a league.
00:27:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's where I'm at, right? The couple of sources on fee I've seen have been that Chelsea have taken about £20 million for him. you know They paid £23 million for him two years ago, and based off of the way that works with... The way I understand how that works with financial fair play rules, which is not necessarily the way it works, but how I understand it to work, would mean that that means there's about...
00:27:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
13 million of value 12 million of value on his contract left so by selling him for 20 million they've unlocked like eight and a half million or something yeah well i just kind of feel like for 20 million i would have taken him back at saints happily did we even you know was that a conversation that was had
00:27:53
Zak
right
00:27:58
Zak
Well, they need it, right? Considering they just seem to be signing players left, right and centre. Like I swear, they're in
00:28:12
Zak
I don't know. It depend it depends, right? like Because it depends whether or not you know Spores was in by that point. But do you have that conversation with the lone player and go, hey, how would you feel about staying here permanently?
00:28:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:28:22
Zak
And if he turned around and went, they probably went, okay, and they just never bothered. And I think he enjoyed his time here, but bear in mind, it took him half a season to get into the team. He only really got into the team under Juric and was one of the you know better performers at that point.
00:28:37
Zak
And yeah, i I think I would have probably liked to see him stay. He was a solid option, but... You know, we've got Che Charles back and, you know, as talk about Ariba going and is he really worth 20 million pounds to us right now?
00:28:49
Zak
Do we want to spend 20 million quid? That's like, I'm not saying it's close. It shouldn't be close to our record breaking transfer, but unfortunately, Greg, whether we like it or not is. so it's quite a high V, uh, you know, power to him.
00:29:02
Zak
I feel like he probably would have said no because he wanted to play in the Premier League. He's managed to get a Premier League move. Hopefully it works out with Burnley. If not, could see him also being one of the ones that if they go down, leaves and then tries to move elsewhere again.
00:29:16
Zak
or he stays with them and becomes a Burnley legend, whatever. But you're right. I wouldn't have i would have been happi happily had him stay here, but I just have a feeling that they weren't willing to pay that sort of money for a position we didn't really need to get coverage for.
00:29:31
Zak
If the three
Transfer Strategy & Position Strengthening
00:29:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:29:32
Zak
sanctioned transfers have been centre-back...
00:29:35
Zak
because we knew potentially a lot of our centre-backs were going.
00:29:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:29:38
Zak
I reckon Taylor Harbour-Bellis was definitely on that list until he picked up that injury. ah ah winger, because we need we need a pacey winger and an attacking player, at no point is the word their midfielder mentioned, right? Like, other than sort of, you know, for the kind of role that I'd expect him to drop into.
00:29:55
Zak
Yeah,
00:29:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah it It was a creative midfielder we were looking for, right?
00:29:58
Zak
yeah
00:29:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Which is not what I'd describe.
00:29:59
Zak
it's not really...
00:30:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
More of a holding player. But yeah, is it just an interesting one, sure.
00:30:02
Zak
Exactly...
00:30:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, that's it. That's the end of my list, mate. Slightly slim pickings this week. Lots of outgoing buzz, but not a lot of motion.
00:30:15
Zak
It's been a theme, mate.
00:30:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:30:18
Zak
but but We said August was going to be where it's at. let Let's hope that's the case.
00:30:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well...
00:30:22
Zak
Let's hope August isn't just us being stripped apart until there's nothing left.
00:30:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
hello
00:30:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, mate, as the last transfer Tuesday before the season begins, it's almost worryingly quiet on the incoming front, isn't it? I was hoping that our head start would have given us a bit more of an advantage this close to the start of the season, but alas, here we are.
00:30:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
don't
00:30:44
Zak
Yeah, as I said, I don't do don't want it to i don't want us to just sign players for the sake of signing players.
00:30:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
know what it's going to be there.
00:30:51
Zak
But considering we we got relegated with one of the worst points tallies ever last season, do we think that almost identical squad is up for coming back up?
00:30:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:04
Zak
we all said no. We all agreed on no. The team, the players agreed on no. The new manager agreed on no. The sporting directors agreed on no. And realistically, we've let a lot of people go, you know, who we would have rather have kept. A lot of the people we wanted to go are staying because, again, who wants to buy them?
00:31:23
Zak
And so far, we've got two new players, one of whom...
00:31:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
don't know if i I don't know if I agree with that assessment. I think that think that of the players that have gone, realistically, Ramsdale is probably the only one that would have been on our ideal to keep list, but we knew that he was going to be out the door.
00:31:38
Zak
okay i and I was thinking more of if Dibbling and Fernandes go because again i have to live in a world where they're just going I have to live in that world Greg
00:31:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's if, mate. That's a big if. That's the importance. that's the important
00:31:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's the important word in that sentence. But we'll see. time Only time will tell.
Engagement & Conclusion
00:31:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
We will see. Okay, well, that is all we've got time for today.
00:32:00
Zak
indeed
00:32:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you very much for joining us, Zach. Thank you, as always, for joining me. We'll be back tomorrow as we start our proper build to the championship season. and start previewing the games and the teams as they come and look ahead.
00:32:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's starting to get real. It's starting to get exciting. And I'm on the hype train. I'm so ready for it. Let us know in comments or on social media if you have any concerns about our transfer business so far this summer.
00:32:37
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