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Episode 263: TRANSFER THURSDAY!
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Southampton – Different day of the week, same level of excitement! Lots to talk about today!
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Transcript
Introduction & Host Dynamics
00:00:14
Zak
Hello and welcome to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. I am your host, Zach Ingo Finch, as always, joined by Greg Elliott, a really, really good friend of mine, a really, really fantastic co-host, just a wonderful person around. How doing, mate?
00:00:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know, mate. Oh, what lovely intro. Yeah, Yeah, ah yeah, I'm doing good. Look, it's everyone's favourite day of the week. We've just shifted it till later in the week,
Content Planning & Transfer Thursday
00:00:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
so...
00:00:42
Zak
what do What do you mean, mate? Transfer Thursday's been a staple of this channel since day one.
00:00:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mate, look, what are we going to do with this extra day's content come September? That's what we've got to work out.
00:00:53
Zak
well we'll We'll have to figure out. What we'll do is we'll transfer rumours.
00:00:58
Zak
maybe maybe they'll be more realistic than uh the transfers uh that we have
00:00:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
like
Team Needs & Transfer Strategies
00:01:04
Zak
right so as always on our transfer days i open up with a little a little word from either like our manager or you know the the board and we're getting to crunch time like we're gonna have one more of these and then that's gonna be it and i'm hoping you by that time the incoming is gonna increase but when asked uh during a press conference what
00:01:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:01:25
Zak
Will still thought he needed on transfers. it was I still think we need a couple of things. I think a number 10 has been a question since the start. We also need a bit more creativity from the outside with one one or a few wingers that can have an opportunity and stick it at the back of the net, which is what we're working towards, but it takes a bit of time.
00:01:42
Zak
And then when asked also about whether he'd lose use the loan market at all, still on if Southampton will look to use the loan market, yeah, 100%. I think whatever it takes to get stuff done and get the right people and the right players involved,
00:01:56
Zak
and will will do what it needs. So that's kind of where we're at, right? Is that the manager has come out and said, we need things. Everybody with a brain who knows that we still need things.
00:02:10
Zak
There needs to be movement. And what we wanted to avoid was everything coming down to the last minute. But unfortunately, here we are. you know, less than a week really till the windows closed and we're going to talk about incomings, but we haven't had lot of incomings and a lot of people are upset and
Transfer Complexities & Critiques
00:02:31
Zak
mad. I understand why, but they are aware of it.
00:02:34
Zak
Clearly there is just some stuff going on and it's obviously been the uncertainty of who's leaving.
00:02:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
like we said to Like we've said since the start, there's a lot of moving parts take place. It's not as simple as, we want that player, let's buy that player.
00:02:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
like There are other considerations to take into play in so many ways.
00:02:54
Zak
Yeah, like, I think this is the problem, is a lot of people are sort of just thinking, we'll send, just give them all the money that they want. And it's like, it's not simple as that, because like, what happens, didn't know who's going, who's coming, you know, it seems like they were able to sort the whole Sugawara thing almost as it happened, right?
00:03:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:03:16
Zak
That was bizarre. But yeah, so...
00:03:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
but that's how it But that's how it outwardly views. What is likely been the case is that on his international duty before pre-season, Sugawara was probably at that point told by his manager, you need to play in the top five leagues if you want to be in consideration.
00:03:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it has taken until four days before the end of deadline to get that situation. Just because we don't see it outwardly doesn't mean that things aren't moving, you know?
00:03:48
Zak
yeah But part of what we'll talk about today is like the downfall of like, say the here we go guy, right? Fabrizio Romano, like the amount of things that he's got wrong so far, this transfer window becoming basically more of an influencer than actual journalists.
00:03:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:04:02
Zak
that's no disrespect. It sounds disrespectful, but it's like things sometimes happen now without people being told because when you tell other people, it complicates things. Sometimes agents put stuff in the media to, to try and force a move.
00:04:16
Zak
I genuinely feel like that's, had the Spurzian situation and I think that that is all I will say on it. My notes for today on that are non-existent because I don't think there's any point talking about it anymore because it doesn't look like it's happening.
00:04:31
Zak
There's been no real updates. The updates are one day he's coming, the next day he's not, then he's coming again, then he's not. and ah I'm just at a point where discussing it is a waste of everyone's time including mine.
00:04:43
Zak
don't know if you feel the same Greg.
00:04:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. 100%, yeah.
Confirmed Transfers Discussion
00:04:46
Zak
Good. Right. So as always, Greg, I'll let you dealer's choice. What would you prefer to talk about first? Incomings or outgoings?
00:04:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
But we always start with outgoings to finish on the incomings.
00:04:57
Zak
Perfect. So we've put it into two sections. We've got confirmed outgoings and rumored outgoings. So you've got a sub choice today, Greg. Would you start with the confirmed or start with the rumored? Okay.
00:05:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's start with the easy on the track out in the public ones.
00:05:14
Zak
Perfect. So, who has gone, Greg? Today, as of time of recording, 27th of August, Armel Bellacotchap has now finally made a move out of the club to Verona, which is was a surprise late move, according to Alfredo Padula.
00:05:31
Zak
And this is where I was talking about how the Fabrizio Robado stuff kind of gets... wrong sometimes is that there were reports that he was supposed to sign for Nantes on loan like two days ago.
00:05:44
Zak
There are also reports that this was very last minute late hijacking. However, he's you know flown out to Italy and the loan fee, according to D. Transferius, that's not how you say that in Italian, is it?
00:06:00
Zak
D transfers in Italian. It will include a 500k loan fee, euros that is, and a 7 million euro option to buy.
00:06:11
Zak
So he might finally get his move out of the club. I hope he has a nice season.
00:06:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Great. we when we We made £500,000 sending them out on loan, which is something we've been trying to do for, what, two years now, realistically?
00:06:26
Zak
Yeah, it's it's as i said to you before, like and I feel bad. I feel like you know he needs to restart his career. It's not going to restart here. Maybe this will do good for him, especially you know considering originally there was just got sort of, ah let's try and go back to Germany, and then obviously in France, and now confirmed Italy. So again, in order of the all of the sources got it wrong there, unless again, it was literally a last bit of hijacking.
00:06:50
Zak
So who knows? But that's our Bellicott chap. Now, the big one, which you know we've alluded to, we've talked about a lot, and it's sad to see an academy prospect go. And I think a lot of people are, I guess, mourning that more than anything else. But unfortunately, the reality is we are not a top six club. We are not club with the spending power or, guess, the European competitions or this, that, other. And whether or not people think about that of Everton, I know they don't. a lot of people are surprised Everton are still in the Premier League, especially after the last couple of seasons.
00:07:22
Zak
But they are in the Premier League, and that has been more of a pull. So, Tyler Dibling has completed a permanent transfer to Everton for an undisclosed fee. So, Greg, should we talk about the fee?
00:07:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
100% talk about the I've heard numbers floating around with all sorts of different percentages and add-ons.
00:07:43
Zak
So... 45, 42, 35, 5, 38, 35 plus 2.
00:07:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Five plus five.
00:08:01
Zak
ah
00:08:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Plus a sell-on fee, right?
00:08:03
Zak
easy. Yeah, that's easy add-ons as well, supposedly.
00:08:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
no not a not 20% sell-on fee.
00:08:09
Zak
Correct. The Athletic have been told it's not as high as the 20% figure reported for his salon fee. Now, relatively sure that the person who originally reported the 20% salon fee was somebody that worked the Athletic. So, again, it's bit...
00:08:25
Zak
here and there, right? And then there's also reports that it's 42 million and and ah people are just happy it's not got the 20% sell-on fee. Ultimately, as it's undisclosed, we're not really going to know.
00:08:36
Zak
And lots of people are really mad about it because it's like, oh, we backed down from the 50, we backed down from the 100. The 100 was its never going to happen. The 100 was to get people to go away last January, right? Sorry, this January.
00:08:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:50
Zak
50 would have been more realistic, but again, negotiation. We didn't need to sell. Something has happened, which is why they've managed to get to a point where we have gone, that is a good valuation. The idea that us as a bunch of fans are like, well, actually, i think it's stupid because we we didn't get 41 million.
00:09:06
Zak
That's bad negotiating. It's like, we're not in the room where that happens.
00:09:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
For me, no.
00:09:11
Zak
Yeah.
00:09:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
For me, this this deal is a win-win-win. It's a huge amount of money for you know a raw talent, an 18-year-old, sure, with lots of potential, but you know it's a win for the club. It's pure profit for us.
00:09:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's a win for Everton. They've got a very good player. And honestly, it's probably a win for Tyler Dibble, who now gets to go and learn his trade from arguably one of the best wingers English wingers in a long time, Jack Grealish.
00:09:40
Zak
Yeah.
00:09:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think that's controversial to say. I think Jack Reddish is a fantastic player.
00:09:44
Zak
I mean, he's proved so far. His one appearance for Everton assisting twice, right?
00:09:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:48
Zak
Like...
00:09:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. It just feels like a win all round. don't have a bad word to say about the offer.
00:09:56
Zak
Yeah, it would have been lovely to keep him.
00:09:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I think it's a good price.
00:10:00
Zak
But
00:10:02
Zak
Simple as that, isn't it?
00:10:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:03
Zak
like it would have been It would have been lovely to keep him, but it's just the reality of this situation is it's not going to happen. and and
00:10:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:09
Zak
you know We've talked about before, yeah, we don't we don't have to sell, but like there comes to a point where if it if is if it is worthwhile and amicable for all parties involved, then happy days.
00:10:21
Zak
People talking about how Well, he left Chelsea and came back. And I think we... I even did last last season, right? But also, like, it's not like... you You grow up, right? If when I was, like, 15, 16, I wanted to move away from home.
00:10:35
Zak
But then two, three years later, ah you you know, I did. so
00:10:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
But also, there's a difference between moving from a Saints Academy team to a Chelsea Academy team and moving from a Saints first team to a big multi-million pound deal to Everton, like it's different completely and you know
00:10:51
Zak
yeah i think we'll be fine. That's the other thing is that like it's not going to make or break our season. And I think that's what what you need to try and
00:11:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah just, I think it's a really shrewd deal, I think it's a lot of money for an 18 year old for for an academy product as well is's it just feels like a good deal all round
00:11:11
Zak
But like again, I can understand why people are are upset about it. i i I don't personally get it. kind of you know we If we'd have been nice to have kept him, sure. It's not the reality of the situation that he's gone.
00:11:25
Zak
Alas, wishing him well. So, another one that I was a bit surprised by. Ikenari Sagawara. so Yeah, basically, you were worried that, as we talked about the other day, that it was going to be Fernandes.
00:11:39
Zak
I said to you, I reckon it's Sugawara, just because of just the nature of how like who our big, strong international player is. And obviously, because he's been told he needs to move leagues, he has gone to Werder Bremen on loan with an option to buy.
00:11:56
Zak
So according to BILD, a German news outlet, have an option to buy set at 6 million euros, which currently is about 5.1 million, which means we'd essentially be selling in for how much we bought in for.
00:12:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that's the bit that surprises me, to be honest. But,
00:12:11
Zak
what the the option to buy?
00:12:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:13
Zak
I guess it depends, right? if maybe But the thing is, is if we get promoted and he wants to come back, I'm sure he can refuse, right? don't how that's built. But if he wants to come, you know, im just I just think of Toby Alderweireld, to be honest, whenever I think of any deal like that.
00:12:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:28
Zak
if we get promoted If we don't get promoted, he's going to end up in the same position where he needs to be playing in the top five leagues. So unless Werder Bremen get demoted...
00:12:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:36
Zak
but There's a high chance that, you know, he'll end up staying unless we get promoted, which, again, it really depends. Like, far, Roryslev seems to have stepped into issues beautifully. You know, it would have been nice to see him succeed a bit more.
00:12:49
Zak
A lot of the press coverage... The only reason that i disagree with you, Greg, that it's been going on for a long time is that... the amount of press coverage they did with him, the amount of media they did with him before the start of the season, the interviews with him about how he really wants to help the team this season.
00:13:04
Zak
I think that this has been a a development over the last couple of weeks, probably in the build-up to the next international break, where basically, you know, this national manager's done the rounds and been like, right, so we've decided X, Y, z and you've got a couple of weeks before the transfer window closes to move if you think that's the case.
00:13:22
Zak
So, again, like,
00:13:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:24
Zak
it It will be what it will be. We will move on. Rorosev's good.
00:13:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:28
Zak
just got to hope that Rorosev doesn't get injured. Because, again, Bree's currently out. And, you know, Fraser can step into that weird wing-back role. But that is reliant on us playing a back five slash back three with wing-backs.
00:13:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I mean, look, it's going to be interesting and maybe that is still a position where we need a bit of extra depth, but i guess we'll see how the rest of the window plays out.
00:13:50
Zak
Right, Joachim Kaya-Sander has moved to Red Star in French League 2. They've just confirmed the signing on loan. That was after it was rumoured. don't even think the club officially properly put an announcement, a big announcement out anyway that I can see.
00:14:03
Zak
I think it was on the Saints website, but didn't anything like tweets or anything. I don't know if i just missed it in between all of the the the business of of Stoke and Norwich and stuff. But yeah, that was, I'm not hugely surprised. He kind of tried to stake his place during preseason. They're all right. But with the amount centre-backs we have, and I feel like they want to bring somebody, you know, you don't, as we learned yesterday, don't really want a back line of like three sort of inexperienced centre-backs, right?
00:14:29
Zak
And I don't think that him warming a bench is going to be good for the level of development of his season.
00:14:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I agree. He's in the sort of tricky position, right, where he's probably a bit too good for the under-23s and not quite good enough to be in the like top selection mix of the first team. So...
00:14:45
Zak
I will tell you what's strange though, why we didn't just loan him back to our other club that are also, to my knowledge, in League 2. But hey-ho, I guess, is what it is. Maybe it's change of scenery is good for him.
00:14:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
the right offer came in is yeah.
00:14:56
Zak
So the other one, the other confirmed outgoing, Greg, is Juan. You know, everybody's favourite Brazilian striker, Juan. Remember Juan?
00:15:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:15:05
Zak
you you don't because uh gesteppy have signed him from saints fc on a permanent transfer for a disclosed fee so obviously he was one think transferred him with wellington and then went straight on loan to gesteppy and then stayed on loan with gesteppy and ha has transferred to gesteppy I think that some people wanted him to be brought into the club because he was scoring goals for fun in Turkey.
00:15:26
Zak
As we learned from Paul Onowachu, you can score for fun in Turkey. That doesn't necessarily translate to the Premier League. There must have been reasons as to why, probably, that he settled in and was part of the furniture there.
00:15:37
Zak
And that transfer's gone ahead. So that's the last confirmed transfer I have, Greg. don't know if you've got anything else.
00:15:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mocky Club. No, that's it for confirmed for me.
00:15:46
Zak
Right. So it turns out this episode's going to be quite long. Should we have a little break and listen to ah ah word from our partners at...
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Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:15:54
Zak
Did we forget the first ad?
00:15:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:15:57
Zak
Yeah, no, you're right.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:15:58
Zak
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00:16:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:16:42
Zak
Right, so we are back and now we're on to rumoured outgoings, Greg.
00:16:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
o
00:16:47
Zak
The
Rumored Transfers & Interests
00:16:47
Zak
window is not over. We still have a few rumours knocking around for who you might be leaving. There might be people that leave that are not on this list that we don't know about. I left off Sammy Adozi because we've had absolutely no updates since last week.
00:16:59
Zak
So until something happens, it's it's it's the same as it was last week.
00:17:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ooh.
00:17:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:05
Zak
However... apparently Wrexham have offered £7.5 million pounds to Southampton for Will Smallbone so can't remember we talked about this last week or not this is according to Reluctant Nico so I think a lot of people would be like as much as they love Will Smallbone that is a lot of money for you know
00:17:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think so.
00:17:22
Zak
what will essentially be our back a backup backup midfielder to my knowledge. So yeah, but again, not really sure if an official bid come in or not. That's just a rumor.
00:17:33
Zak
According to afi House, we are happy to let him leave permanently before the deadline. I think that's an interesting emphasis there. I don't know if that's by design or just, or not.
00:17:47
Zak
And
00:17:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it seems that he's probably not going to be like a huge part of the plan, so I guess it makes sense to him.
00:17:51
Zak
Yeah, like you you can kind of already see that. And you know and i it's no disrespect to him.
00:17:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:17:57
Zak
just think that it's he's not... As we've talked about before, he suffers from being a a man of many skills, but the master of none. And I think that they're very much trying to establish the squad that they want to go forward with.
00:18:12
Zak
And he probably wants to play a bit more, which I can get.
00:18:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
I
00:18:14
Zak
so And then obviously it's a bit more concrete where a Sky Sports News journalist Anthony R. Joseph has said that Will Smallbone is indeed of interest to Wrexham. So that's pretty much all the information so far. We'll have to wait to see if a proper bid comes in. But, you know, the window closes soon.
00:18:30
Zak
And as we've said, doesn't look like he's going to be hugely part of the plans. So i guess we'll find out sooner rather than later.
00:18:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
look forward to watching him on Disney Plus, mate.
00:18:39
Zak
How to do you?
00:18:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bit of extra interest, isn't it?
00:18:41
Zak
Ben Bert Diaz has options to leave Southampton and is currently analysing them. ah This is via InCangell.
00:18:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
I also saw this exact story and my only note on it mate is who?
00:18:52
Zak
ye
00:18:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
What options?
00:18:59
Zak
I wouldn't be surprised if there are some other championship... I wonder, I can't work out if it's just the wrong team, wrong setup, wrong what. Because like he scored goals for Sheffield United, right?
00:19:12
Zak
Then he went back to them and didn't. And then he's come back to us. And I think that without wanting to throw our players under the bus, we'll be mean. Because, like again, it just doesn't get us anywhere. And it's all I'm going to do is regurgitating other opinions. Watching him last night wasn't...
00:19:29
Zak
wasn't an enjoyable watch, right? Like you could tell why he's so low down the pecking order.
00:19:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah
00:19:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:19:36
Zak
And if he ever wants to break back into his national squad, he needs to probably do something elsewhere. And I have a feeling that, you know, he was just, I think he's going to go down as one of those, one of those penitentiary signings, right?
00:19:51
Zak
Where we're like, yeah, thanks anyway, like Carello and a couple of others where i would i would even put on bar with Orsic.
00:19:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
ye
00:20:00
Zak
don't know if Orsic could have gone better. We didn't see him play. So at least at least that's probably one of the benefits to him. Either way, potentially on his way out. And we'll we'll well we'll see. If not, might have to see him a little bit more around the season.
00:20:16
Zak
Maybe our opinions will change. They haven't in the last year. Right, Mati Fernandes, mate. West Ham have encountered frustration in their pursuit of Southampton's Matias Fernandes, who Saints have now said have an excellent chance of keeping after the sale of Tyler Dibbling to Everton. That according to Jacob Steinberg, the football reporter for The Guardian.
00:20:39
Zak
However, according to The Athletic, he still does remain their first-choice midfield target. I'm relatively sure, in between all of that, they put in like another bid. I think it was like £32 million, I think most people just considered an insult.
00:20:52
Zak
And...
00:20:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:20:53
Zak
Consider it to be an insult. If you're looking at the state of West Ham right now, and, you know, even bless, like, i saw Kyle Walker-Peters manage an assist last night. But if you're looking at the state of West Ham with, like, their captain having to be held back by players from arguing with somebody in the stands because of how much frustration there is clearly boiling over in certain places, like, you know, that's a lot of speculation.
00:21:17
Zak
but it's not working for them.
00:21:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
yes
00:21:19
Zak
And I can see him getting relegated. Do you want to go and fight that fight if you're Matias Fernandes, really?
00:21:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just stay here where you've already loved the hero. Get us promoted and stick out and go again next year.
00:21:30
Zak
Yeah.
00:21:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
100%.
00:21:32
Zak
it would be It's one of those things where like the same reason that I felt sorry for James Bree when he joined us, right?
00:21:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:37
Zak
Like, oh my God, a Premier League opportunity, half a million pounds, yeah, sure, I'll come.
00:21:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:41
Zak
And then like next year in the Championship with Luton at that point being promoted. Admittedly, it would have worked out for them now. They're in League One, but still, it's it's giving those kind of vibes of like, yeah, okay, I know that West Ham are a big club with big history, blah, blah, blah. But currently, you look at that squad and you look at the state of it you go, do you really want to move there?
00:22:01
Zak
you You loved here. We really, really like having you here. You're a big part of our plans.
00:22:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:22:07
Zak
Again, for every 10 transfers of the Sports Republic you've got wrong, there is at least one that is good.
00:22:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:22:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Indeed.
00:22:14
Zak
And let us not forget that Matias Fernandes is one of them.
00:22:18
Zak
So, Greg, we've got through outgoings. You happy?
00:22:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Always, mate.
00:22:24
Zak
Right, so we'll use this as a opportunity to take the second break, or otherwise, let's face it, I'll forget, and have a word from our partners at Zencastr before we talk about who's coming into the club.
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New Signings & Squad Enhancements
00:22:57
Zak
And we are back. So, Greg, we'll start with the confirmed and move on to the rumours, if you're happy with that.
00:23:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, sounds good to me.
00:23:06
Zak
Wonderful. So, George Long, experienced goalkeeper George Long has completed a season-long loan move from Norwich FC. Bear in mind what Will still said about the loan market and the fact that, you know, ah ah goalkeeper wasn't on that list, but it may be because this was already sorted out.
00:23:22
Zak
And I don't think that it is going to be for the reasons that fans are one right it's not because he's going to replace Bozzu no is because he is going to sit in the back that is pretty much what Sporz said Sporz said that George is a great guy he will fit in seamlessly with our goalkeeping group he's a player who brings tremendous experience and a level of professionalism that will be invaluable in setting standards throughout the squad so we'll talk about this a little bit. that The fan reaction to a player joining our club, admittedly, like Norwich fans piling on the fact that they're like, thank God he's gone.
00:24:00
Zak
And then just everyone seemingly losing their minds that we have got a third choice goalkeeper, which is something that's always been on the cards. And being mad that it's not... but how would you like players to be announced? Because what about is like, oh, should we save this announcement for like a week while for him being here until we've managed to put an attack in signing in to stop? No, that's not how this works.
00:24:22
Zak
They've signed a player.
00:24:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:23
Zak
He's joined. He's going to join the goalkeeping. He's going to be there as a backup if he's absolutely needed because, you know, Joe Lumley went, that that's where I'm at. But I feel like it must be horrible to join a club and then just see everybody's reaction be like, oh, who cares? Oh, it's terrible. Who cares? Oh, it's terrible. who care It's like, guys, it's not that deep.
00:24:46
Zak
I don't know what you but your feelings are, Greg, but for me, I'm just like, this is literally just somebody to work with the current goalkeepers. And then if the worst comes the worst,
00:24:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, yeah my my feelings are that I've not seen any of it because I stay away from the assessment. So, it's a good, solid third-choice goalkeeper sign-in.
00:25:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Will still said in interviews that we needed goalkeeper, you know, if nothing more than training numbers and for certain drills and You know, experience is what we're after, bringing a sensible head in.
00:25:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
just makes sense. It's logical.
00:25:18
Zak
I think, I think it's just people's frustration to me. And I get it because people are frustrated that they're like, there is like less than a week to go down. And we had a, we had a,
00:25:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right, things are moving. We've got the time. We've got plenty of time. As previously mentioned, right, time isn't real. Time doesn't exist. Each day up until deadline day is one unit, and then deadline day is 15 of those units. That's how it works. It doesn't matter.
00:25:42
Zak
but
00:25:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Things are moving.
00:25:44
Zak
i think that's yeah I think what Pupil's problem is, mate, is it feels like we have not planned properly if it has to move on last tight last day, yet we've discussed why it's not like that.
00:25:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
But it's not... Yeah, it's that's just not how it works.
00:25:55
Zak
But the perception the perception is we aren't doing anything.
00:25:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
These things take time.
00:25:59
Zak
The reality is probably very different, but unfortunately, perception...
00:26:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Life is not as simple as the instant gratification that we are more and more trained to receive. Unfortunately, it's not how work life works. It's just how it is.
00:26:11
Zak
That's a deep for a Thursday afternoon, mate. But there we are. I agree with you. Anywho, another incoming, which came under the radar. We discussed it a little bit in more in depth already. Mance Roroslev.
00:26:23
Zak
Brentford is where he used to play. He's joined us on a four-year deal since a permanent transfer. So I feel like if Sugawara comes back, you've already kind of got that right back position sorted.
00:26:35
Zak
Although Premier League might change things.
00:26:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:38
Zak
He's already made a sub-appearance for us. Did right. Made a full debut yesterday, playing for Norwich, or two days ago, if you're listening. And did a right. Solid game.
00:26:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, solid.
00:26:48
Zak
All the right places. Attacked properly.
00:26:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Technically got an assist, although I don't know if passing the ball to a man who can run 20 yards and then bang it in the goal from 35 counts as an assist. But on the stats, it does.
00:26:59
Zak
i I mean, but that that's how assists work, mate.
00:27:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
So...
00:27:03
Zak
like Regardless of the fact the amount of goalkeepers of assists makes you know is kind of but feel like if they had if he had of passed it to him at that point, he might have gone somewhere else.
00:27:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:14
Zak
So, over way, so far so good. I know there's been, you know again, a lot of noise when he first joined, and sort of Brentford being like, oh, he's a solid guy. And then other people being like, oh, he's not that great.
00:27:26
Zak
And then we'll see how it turns out on the football pitch, won't we?
00:27:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:27:29
Zak
And so far, so good.
00:27:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Looks like the shrewd sign in. I'm pleased with it.
00:27:32
Zak
like Nobody knew about it. was very funny. out of the complete woodwork.
00:27:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:35
Zak
Again, this is why I feel like all of that is that they had had him targeted for a long time and waited. And then obviously the Sugawara thing took place. I reckon at that point they pulled the trigger and he was happy to join.
00:27:47
Zak
And here we are with two incomings.
00:27:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
perfect
00:27:51
Zak
on top of the incomings we've already had this year. So what's that? Like four incomings with Downs and Quarchi and like 20, 25,000 outgoings.
00:27:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:27:59
Zak
I think it's actually like nine, but how people feel.
00:28:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
know we said we needed to We said we needed to trim the squad. This is not news, right? This is good.
00:28:09
Zak
Correct. Right. So down to the room at Incomings, the the exciting part of the but podcast, right? Or the bit everyone's excited for. So let's talk about Josh Brownhill, right?
00:28:20
Zak
So apparently we've expressed an interest in signing joy of Josh Brownhill, but he's considering a huge offer from Al Shabaab, who are considering paying upwards of week. Yeah, we're about to pay 100k That's not going to be us.
00:28:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, fair enough.
00:28:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
I
00:28:35
Zak
but still gonna be us
00:28:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
like to think of myself as quite a nice morally centred person, but I think there are not many things you could not get me to do for £100,000 a week. Life's a drink of money, isn't
00:28:45
Zak
Yeah, you know, for some people it works out, some people it doesn't, right? Jordan Henderson, an example of how it doesn't. Again, me and Greg reminded that he now plays for Brentford after talking about it many times and then forgetting about it and then once again seeing him in the line-up the other day.
00:29:01
Zak
However, However, ah Josh Brownhill has also had offers supposedly from Leicester, Ipswich and two other Premier League teams. So we'll see how that one works out, but I'm not too confident.
00:29:12
Zak
I think it would be a good sign-in. However, doesn't it's that it doesn't seem real, right? And again, like if he turns down that, I feel like most players would then go, okay, well, what's what's going on in the Premier League?
00:29:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:29:26
Zak
So something a bit more exciting, Finna Zaz. We've already had a bid turned down for him. I think it was something like 10.5 million. There's rumours between 10 to 10.5 And according to Scott Wilson of the Northern Echo, Salad that understood to be putting together an improved offer for Finnazaz after their initial bid was rejected.
00:29:47
Zak
So this looks like it will probably sort of heat up this week. he I think he scored the other day. done Been a very, very solid championship sort of player.
00:29:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:00
Zak
I think that would be really, really good for us. We'll just have to see if we can get it over the line because it seems like one of the more realistic things, right?
00:30:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:30:10
Zak
Cool. And then we've got Jessen Raksaki, who we've had a £10 million pound bid rejected for Crystal Palace winger, who is 22, and we are likely to return with another offer that is called to Graham Bailey.
00:30:27
Zak
Again, this kind of... fits our model of sort of younger fast, quick players, right?
00:30:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and wingers, we need wingers.
00:30:36
Zak
Which, yeah, like, especially, you know, it might just be that we are not putting in improved bids until we have wingers out the door.
00:30:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
So.
00:30:44
Zak
So it might be that we're just, there's, there's some waiting for a dozy's transfer to go over the line. Some of the other transfers are now over the line. Dibblings is over the line. And that's what that money will be reinvested.
00:30:54
Zak
least we're hoping. Yeah. So, yeah, that's one of the other rumoured incomings. And the only other rumoured incoming to talk about is Leo Cienza, who the future of the Heidenheim winger Leo Cienza is one to watch before deadline day.
00:31:12
Zak
And Southampton continue to monitor the player who will command a mid-double-digit fee, according to Berger Pintay.
00:31:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
15 pounds.
00:31:22
Zak
who is a reporter for Sky. so yeah, that's one. and he's He's been scoring goals.
00:31:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:31:27
Zak
He looks like he's been on our radar for a while. But again, I don't know how much I trust. I think that a lot of us has been have been, but a lot of us are chronically online, Greg, not necessarily you. have been sort of burned by the Spurzian saga, right?
00:31:41
Zak
Like, this has just been an ongoing thing for so long. And I think, if anything, it highlights the complications of any transfer with, like, a player in the Russian League, right? Just, it seems to be there's a lot of, and and again, like, we were still saying, people have agendas and this, that, and the other, and it's probably that we get in with an offer, probably was accepted, probably has then messed about a little bit, and maybe it's just a bargaining tactic for elsewhere.
00:31:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:05
Zak
Wouldn't be surprised if we've abandoned interest. this one however seems to just sort of be quietly in the background and maybe we'll hear more but as we've already seen with the two incomings we've had in the last couple of weeks we weren't really linked with them and out of nowhere they joined and that's what we've got a hope for in the coming days is that there is a plan
00:32:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:32:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, mate, lots of movement. There's always a plan, and there's going to be lots to talk about. There's going be lots more rumours, I'm sure. There's going be lots more solid like pieces of news.
00:32:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
It all ramps up now now that the deadline is as close as it is, and we get to the exciting bit where things actually start to happen. We made, what, three deadline day signings last summer when we weren't actually expecting any, as far as I can recall?
00:32:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
So things can happen. Things are going to
Transfer Day Reflections & Social Wrap-Up
00:32:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
happen. It's going to be fun. Give Give me another fun late night recording, mate.
00:33:00
Zak
yeah
00:33:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's what I'm looking forward to.
00:33:03
Zak
Yeah, though you're right. So is is one of those one of these things where it's frustrating and people are are getting annoyed. And I think a lot of us would have preferred business to be done earlier because you don't really want a bunch of players gelling for the Pompey game.
00:33:21
Zak
But unfortunately, we can't do our entire business based around the fact that we've got a derby coming up soon. like
00:33:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:28
Zak
And I know that there are a lot of Saints fans out there that would rather win both derby games and stay in the championship than, you know, achieve the objectives of a corporate entity. And I get that too. But ultimately, we're just going to have to wait and see.
00:33:41
Zak
We thank you for joining us though. And thank you once again to, I think, Just Saints, Saints Extra. we We've also go, me and Greg go through similar lists and see similar things, but those guys are always very, very reliable.
00:33:55
Zak
So yeah, once... that's pretty much it for transfer rumours. For all we know, by the time that this is out, we can have another incoming player. That's how quickly things are moving. So if we miss somebody off this list and you're like, where are they?
00:34:07
Zak
It's that we don't know because we're currently recording this at 1pm on Wednesday.
00:34:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:34:14
Zak
ah ah So, thank you so much for listening. As always, we will be back tomorrow with a match preview for this weekend. are on all of the social media. We're Facebook.
00:34:25
Zak
We are X, the Everything app, Blue Sky. We are on Instagram. We are on TikTok. tiktok wo We are on YouTube. We have a GSPN Southampton YouTube account if you fancy seeing us in person.
00:34:39
Zak
I'm also going to look to at some point put some playlists together of sort of our our wild cards and our player profiles and our staff profiles. And if I've said this on the podcast now, it holds me accountable and I actually have to do it.
00:34:52
Zak
So, Greg, if you look surprised by that, this because you're finding out now too. So, once again, thank you for listening, everyone. We hope you have a wonderful morning, afternoon, or evening, and we will be with you in the next one.
00:35:19
Zak
Also, thank you to Greg.
00:35:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay.