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One Woman's Medical Emergency in Vietnam - and How She Kept Going
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Alexandra set out on a bold adventure to Vietnam—but when a sudden medical emergency left her reeling, she came close to calling it quits. In this gripping (and unexpectedly hilarious) episode of Go Far Girl, she shares the story of how everything went sideways, the moment she nearly gave up, and the stubborn strength that pulled her through.
Follow Alexandra and all of her adventures on her website, The Bucket List Mermaid, and on Instagram.
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Transcript
Introduction to Alexandra: Adventure Junkie and Mermaid
00:00:01
CHANTELLE KINCY
Hey there, welcome to Go Far Girl. Today on Go Far Girl, I'm joined with Alexandra. She's an adventure junkie, travel photographer, and a full-time mermaid. Known for capturing the wildest corners of the world with a camera in one hand and a tail in the other, Alexandra dives headfirst into epic experiences to inspire other others to chase magic and memories.
A Medical Emergency Abroad: Testing Resilience
00:00:22
CHANTELLE KINCY
But today, she is here to talk about a completely different kind of story, which is a medical emergency that she had abroad, tested her resilience, left her realizing she's capable of so much more than she ever imagined.
00:00:34
CHANTELLE KINCY
So Alexandra, welcome. I'm so happy to see you.
00:00:38
Alexandra
Thank you so much for having me. It's so fun to be on this show.
00:00:42
CHANTELLE KINCY
I was so stoked. And it's like kind of like going to be a weird subject, right? We're like oh it's a medical emergency. I'm so excited to talk about this.
00:00:47
Alexandra
true. Oh yeah.
00:00:48
CHANTELLE KINCY
But I because like not everything is perfect and rosy all the time.
00:00:54
Alexandra
it's very true
00:00:54
CHANTELLE KINCY
And sometimes these experiences are the ones that were like, yeah, I did that.
00:01:01
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like, plus, like, I think it's good for people to know that like, it's not all Instagram worthy, right?
00:01:01
Alexandra
who
00:01:01
Alexandra
oh yeah
00:01:07
CHANTELLE KINCY
Sometimes like, it just sucks.
Diving Incident in Vietnam: Lost Earring and Buddy
00:01:09
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:01:09
Alexandra
Oh yeah, we we we we have to be authentic. Cause I do have a lot of really cool stories that I'm like, yes, I did this and I checked this off my bucket list. But man, they're like, they're like, tell me a real story when you were just like scared and didn't know what to do.
00:01:15
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:01:18
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:01:20
Alexandra
And I was like, I'm go about to, I'm about to hit you with this story. And every time they're like, wait, what?
00:01:26
CHANTELLE KINCY
Bring it. All right. So backstory, where were you?
00:01:27
Alexandra
Bring it on.
00:01:31
Alexandra
Okay, so I was in Vietnam and I actually decided, because I moved to England when I was 18 and spent all of my university years there. And then afterwards, after I was done with uni, i was like, oh, I'm going to go backpacking.
00:01:45
Alexandra
So i I was on the road for a long time. Like it was like six or seven months that I was just traveling straight, like in and out of hostels, out of backpacks.
00:01:51
CHANTELLE KINCY
Okay. Yeah.
00:01:54
Alexandra
And I was in Vietnam and I was doing a dive. And I was traveling with a group, but I wasn't traveling with anybody. Like I was just by myself and nobody wanted to go diving with me. And I was like, whatever, that's fine. I'll go by myself.
Sea Lice Infection and Medical Challenges in Vietnam
00:02:07
Alexandra
So I went diving and I had a piercing in my ear. I had two piercings and it was kind of like in the upper side of my ear.
00:02:15
CHANTELLE KINCY
okay yeah
00:02:16
Alexandra
And I think I just jumped out of the boat. If nobody's divers here, you kind of like grab your, you know, grab your mask and just kind of step off the boat kind of thing. And I think I just knocked it, like knocked my earring.
00:02:30
Alexandra
And it was like a year and a half after I had gotten this piercing. Like it was not new.
00:02:33
CHANTELLE KINCY
So it wasn't like fresh. You weren't thinking about it like constantly.
00:02:35
Alexandra
Right. Yeah.
00:02:36
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:02:36
Alexandra
Yeah. Like I could kind of feel that I knocked it a little bit. But anyway, I digress. So I had a great dive and kind of a mini adventure within the story is I lost my buddy.
00:02:48
Alexandra
So like halfway through, I just I like was looking at this clownfish and I was like, oh, my gosh, this clownfish is so cute. And then I looked up and everyone was gone. like I was just like by myself so i was like okay remember your training Alex here we go so like stayed down there for whatever you know like a minute or two and then you know surfaced um I call it like the they were like a safety sausage where it like blows up so it's like a rescue me kind of thing and I just sat there for like a good solid like 40 minutes to an hour and I was like this is how I die like I just don't
00:02:57
CHANTELLE KINCY
Oh my gosh.
00:03:23
CHANTELLE KINCY
yeah Even when you came to surface, you couldn't see anybody? Like...
00:03:25
Alexandra
No, like the boat.
00:03:26
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:03:27
Alexandra
Yeah, like we were basically, um there was a huge rock that was right in the middle. And that's what we were diving around.
00:03:32
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:03:33
Alexandra
And the boat had gone the other way and I was flowing the other way. So it took them a long time to actually get back to me. And I was just sitting there. I was like, huh, okay, this is cool.
00:03:45
Alexandra
And I think what happened is there was like sea lice, like little tiny things that were like biting me as I was in the water. And I think it just got in my ear and it just infected it so so that
00:04:03
CHANTELLE KINCY
I'm visualizing.
00:04:04
CHANTELLE KINCY
Don't love the story already, but...
00:04:04
Alexandra
oh
00:04:06
Alexandra
oh Oh, man. And I was doing great. Like, I was fine. And they they apologized. a like They were like, sorry, we went the other side of the rock. We're just going to, like, take you to this pristine Vietnamese beach and give you all this really good Vietnamese food. So I was happy. I was fine.
00:04:23
CHANTELLE KINCY
I mean, for sure. That's a win, right? Like, yeah.
00:04:25
Alexandra
Oh, yeah. was like, this week still ended well. Like, I'm happy about it.
00:04:28
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:04:29
Alexandra
Little did I know what was just brewing in my ear. Yeah.
00:04:33
CHANTELLE KINCY
Could you feel ah like you knew you hit your earring, but then could you feel anything like while you were in the water? Like, did you immediately know this is something's weird with this? Or was it like, okay, so a couple days.
00:04:40
Alexandra
No, no, I didn't notice it at all. Yeah. And then the next morning I woke up and I was like, something's wrong. Like it's, I can't, but I still like tried to go, I tried to clean it really well. And then I ended up like talking to the person who pierced it and was like, I don't know what to do. She was like, oh just do this. And i was like, girl, I'm not in America right now. Like I am so far away.
00:05:02
Alexandra
i don't know what to do. ah So then what happened was i I tried to take it out in the airport because I was going to Ho Chi Minh and it wasn't coming out.
00:05:14
Alexandra
and There was like some people who saw me crying in the bathroom and they were like, we'll go get help. And they were like, go to an ER right away as soon as you land, which is but what you want to be told when you're traveling abroad, like you're 20 years old traveling abroad.
00:05:24
CHANTELLE KINCY
Right. Exactly.
00:05:27
Alexandra
that's That's exactly the words you want to hear is go to an yeah ER.
00:05:29
CHANTELLE KINCY
And you're about to get on a flight. It's not like you're going to go do it right that second. So then the whole time I'm like, oh my gosh, the pressure. What about this?
00:05:36
Alexandra
Oh yeah, I'm like seriously sitting here just like overthinking everything that's happening.
00:05:41
CHANTELLE KINCY
Do you speak any Vietnamese?
00:05:43
Alexandra
Oh, no, no. I wish I could.
00:05:44
CHANTELLE KINCY
Okay.
00:05:45
Alexandra
I wish I could.
00:05:45
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:05:45
Alexandra
But, um you know, other than the basics that I did know um just from traveling.
00:05:48
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah. Okay.
00:05:50
Alexandra
um So then I got there and apparently all of their doctors take like a day off each week and then they're just like on call. So this was not like a medical emergency. Like but my life wasn't in danger. So they were like, deal with it.
00:06:04
Alexandra
I was like, OK, sounds good. um
00:06:07
CHANTELLE KINCY
Well, it's a mental health crisis, so yes it is an emergency.
00:06:10
Alexandra
I know, I was like, I don't what to do here. like I'm like in like the Ho Chi Minh tunnels, just like crying. Everyone's like, what's wrong? I was like, I'm just in so much pain. Like, don't know what's going on.
00:06:23
Alexandra
um And it was really funny because I did find a ah local hospital and they told me that I needed to be hospitalized and put on an antibiotic drip for like two weeks. And I was like, surely not.
00:06:34
Alexandra
I was like,
Painful Recovery and Emotional Struggles
00:06:36
Alexandra
what do I even do?
00:06:36
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like, this is really escalating from this isn't an emergency to hang on for two weeks.
00:06:40
Alexandra
Right, right, right.
00:06:41
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like...
00:06:43
Alexandra
So I'm like trying to talk to my doctors back in the US. I'm trying, oh yeah, it was just this whole thing. So by the time I actually did get medical attention, super gross, but ah my ear had gone over the earring.
00:06:58
Alexandra
So yeah, like it had just like swollen so much that the it just like enveloped the earring. So gross.
00:07:04
CHANTELLE KINCY
I can imagine how painful that pressure was too.
00:07:07
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like you couldn't lay down or do anything because that, I mean, it's terrible.
00:07:07
Alexandra
Oh my gosh, so painful.
00:07:13
Alexandra
Yeah, yeah. And I'm like in a, in like a coed hostel.
00:07:13
CHANTELLE KINCY
And it was like, perfect, perfect.
00:07:15
Alexandra
So like, it's not like I'm in a, yeah, yeah.
00:07:18
CHANTELLE KINCY
Did you meet lots of mates?
00:07:18
Alexandra
i
00:07:20
CHANTELLE KINCY
Did you meet like, like Hey,
00:07:23
Alexandra
Everyone's like, what is wrong with your ear?
00:07:23
CHANTELLE KINCY
yeah what's wrong with the girl with the ear?
00:07:25
Alexandra
And I'm like, don't look at it. Just don't look at it.
00:07:26
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:07:27
Alexandra
Okay.
00:07:29
CHANTELLE KINCY
Was it oozing too, or was it just like, because sometimes it it's gross when it oozes, but at least it relieves some of that pressure, right?
00:07:34
Alexandra
Yeah.
00:07:36
CHANTELLE KINCY
Or was it really just like building up in there?
00:07:36
Alexandra
Kind of. It was just really just so red and so just, it's just angry. had an angry ear.
00:07:43
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:07:44
Alexandra
Oh, it was, yeah, just so painful. And then, so we did x-rays because they were like, maybe the back of the earring fell off. No, it just my it was just underneath my ear. So they they told me, they were like, we're going to have to surgically remove it, which is the second greatest thing that you want to hear when traveling as a 20-year-old solo female traveler in Vietnam.
00:07:58
CHANTELLE KINCY
Oh my gosh. Bring it.
00:08:07
Alexandra
ah Okay, so here's, are you ready for the dicey part?
00:08:10
CHANTELLE KINCY
bring it
00:08:11
Alexandra
Okay, here we go.
00:08:12
CHANTELLE KINCY
but for
00:08:13
Alexandra
ah Hold on to the wheel. Let's go. So i go in there and I'm like, great, it'll be fine. They'll like put some numbing agent on it. They'll cut it off five minutes.
00:08:25
Alexandra
Instead, a nurse came in and she held down, like put her forearm on my head and just like held me down to the table and they just cut it out. Just no anesthesia, nothing.
00:08:38
Alexandra
And I just like sat there and screamed for like 45 minutes.
00:08:42
CHANTELLE KINCY
I am going to cry right now. oh my God.
00:08:48
Alexandra
it was so painful and so scary. And they ah my family makes fun of me for this still to this day, but um they would, they were like, like obviously like cutting the earring out of me and and they were like screaming Vietnamese at each other. And I had no clue what they were saying. And then every once in a while they would just like look at me and they would go,
00:09:07
Alexandra
you pushed through a pain! You so strong! and I would just be like, like, I'm just, like, sobbing.
00:09:14
CHANTELLE KINCY
Oh my gosh.
00:09:16
Alexandra
So every time my family's like, you pushed through pain! You so strong!
00:09:24
Alexandra
Uh...
Cultural Challenges in Cambodia
00:09:25
CHANTELLE KINCY
oh my gosh
00:09:28
Alexandra
ah So then um she, she like grabs my earring and like, obviously it's done. And she like shows it to me, like the bloodied earring. And she's like, look. And I'm like, and then I was like, i was like, where's the other one? And she's like, the other one's not infected. And I was like, get it out of my ear.
00:09:45
CHANTELLE KINCY
Take it out.
00:09:45
Alexandra
right now, take it out, I'm never doing this again. And then she starts cutting the other one. And I was like, girl, it's not infected. just Just unscrew the back. And she was like, no, no, no. no So then it was another 45 minutes for her to cut the other earring out of me.
00:10:00
CHANTELLE KINCY
Oh my goodness.
00:10:04
CHANTELLE KINCY
Why was there no anesthetic? Like, I understand you're not in the U.S., but you're not like in like the outback with just like Aboriginal medicine either. Like you're still in a city.
00:10:17
Alexandra
Right, well, now and then um but my little nurse friend leaves that was holding me down there. And I was like, where is she going? And she was like, oh, she's gonna go get some anesthesia for the sutures.
00:10:28
CHANTELLE KINCY
Stop it.
00:10:29
Alexandra
And I actually like like was so close to madness by this point. And I was like, why wasn't that used? She gave me some medical explanation, but I was like, i don't care, don't care, it's fine.
00:10:39
Alexandra
So she came back, but she she cut open my ear enough where I needed stitches on that upper portion of my my ear
00:10:44
CHANTELLE KINCY
And then gave you anesthesia to suture
00:10:47
Alexandra
And I was like, at this point, I can't even feel my ear. Like, it's gone. I don't even know if I have an ear anymore. and then I asked her and i was like, I'm in some serious amount of pain here.
00:10:57
Alexandra
Can you give me something? And she was like, oh my gosh, yes, girl, I got you. And she gave me a Tylenol, like an acetabedophen.
00:11:04
CHANTELLE KINCY
it.
00:11:07
CHANTELLE KINCY
And how did that help? but
00:11:09
Alexandra
ah oh it helped so much. Not really.
00:11:12
CHANTELLE KINCY
You may as well have like had a Skittle or something. Obviously. I'm all in.
00:11:16
Alexandra
So that if if you want to keep hearing about how this story develops, um ah yeah, so, um the oh because it keeps getting crazier.
00:11:20
CHANTELLE KINCY
obviously i'm all in
00:11:25
Alexandra
Well, not as crazy, but it just keeps going. and So um after that, i at the day after, I spent 16 hours on a bus crossing into Cambodia. So that's what I did the day after.
00:11:37
Alexandra
i was just like a walking ball of stress at this point. And as i said, I'm 20. And so I'm calling my mom and I'm like, I have never been tested this hard. Like, Like, don't know what to do.
00:11:49
Alexandra
And um when she wrapped my ear, it is actually funny because, you know, I stopped at a couple of locations. So there's just these pictures of me, these beautiful Vietnamese locations, like going on boats. And I just have like a huge ear bandage
00:12:03
CHANTELLE KINCY
Oh, and then you probably couldn't dive anymore either, huh?
00:12:06
Alexandra
Oh yeah, no, I couldn't get it wet for three months after this happened.
00:12:08
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:12:10
Alexandra
Like not even like in the shower. I was like, and she's like, you're going home soon, right? And I was like, no, I'm still going to be i'm still goingnna be traveling in three months.
00:12:16
CHANTELLE KINCY
Wasn't the plan.
00:12:19
Alexandra
So there you go. but ah But anyway, so um she didn't use the nonstick gauze. So it just had like dried to my ear. So it took like these two men like an hour to like cut it out.
00:12:33
Alexandra
but like the gauze out of my ear and so at this point i'm I'm just freaking out I call my mom and I'm like I this is just like the worst thing that's ever happened to me like I don't know what to do and she finally got me calmed down and I went back in my roommate that I was sharing a room with is puking her guts out because she ate something weird and no joke I'm sitting there and a cockroach crawls across my bed
00:12:57
CHANTELLE KINCY
Nope.
00:12:57
Alexandra
And I was like, nope. So then I called my mom back and I was like, mom, mom, fly me home.
00:13:02
CHANTELLE KINCY
Nope.
00:13:05
Alexandra
And she, you know, those like Snapchat filters where it's like a, you know, it like superimposes your face onto things.
00:13:08
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:13:12
CHANTELLE KINCY
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:13
Alexandra
So she superimposed her face onto a hot dog and she sent it to me and said, don't be a wiener.
00:13:21
Alexandra
She's like, that's the only thing I can think of telling you right now.
00:13:24
CHANTELLE KINCY
what
00:13:26
CHANTELLE KINCY
Did you laugh or did you cry?
00:13:29
Alexandra
I did, honestly, I was like, that's kind of what I needed. Just tough love and humor. That's, that's totally what I needed. Oh,
00:13:35
CHANTELLE KINCY
You're like, okay, rebound. But you had to also just be like emotionally exhausted too.
00:13:41
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like, and cause you know, like when you get, like you go through something like that and then once it's like kind of done, you just crash and, but you can't, you still got to be on a bus and you've still got to be like on alert and you've still got to like be in public places and doing all these things.
00:13:41
Alexandra
yeah.
00:13:49
Alexandra
oh yeah
00:13:54
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like when did you like come down? Like London in three months or like...
00:13:57
Alexandra
I feel like I just did Like it was just, and it was also hard. Cause like, like a few days after it happened, I went to really, really sad, but very moving was ah like the, think it's S 21 prison and like the killing fields in Cambodia. Yeah.
00:14:13
Alexandra
And it was so hard for me to be there. And it was kind of recent. So I got to talk to some of the survivors. It was, as I said, such an amazing experience, but it was so hard for me, you know, not to like compare anything of what I went through to what they went through.
00:14:28
Alexandra
But I was like, I get it.
00:14:28
CHANTELLE KINCY
Right.
00:14:29
Alexandra
Like I get like being held down and like having something hurt.
00:14:33
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:14:34
Alexandra
You know, so it was just it was such an interesting experience for me to be able to like have just like a slight 0.2% of what they went through.
00:14:35
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:14:43
Alexandra
i kind of understood.
00:14:44
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah. know Yeah.
00:14:45
Alexandra
Yeah, it was very hard for me to be there. But very beautiful, very reflective.
00:14:48
CHANTELLE KINCY
When it was so, it was so recent and you were still feeling that pain and that emotion too. So it just like was kind of in your face. Oh my goodness.
00:14:56
Alexandra
Yeah, yeah, it was it was very crazy. So i did I did get the sutures out in Cambodia and they like they dropped me off and they like didn't have sterile tools.
00:15:07
Alexandra
So they ended up having to like bike down to the village to like get the sterile tools to take the stitches out. And I, like, made friends with the nurse. Like, he was super nice. And he spoke really he spoke really good English. So I kind of became friends with him.
00:15:22
Alexandra
And after a while, he was like, do you want a snack from my village? And I was like, heck yeah.
00:15:27
CHANTELLE KINCY
Always yes.
Emotional Challenges and Support from Mom
00:15:28
Alexandra
Let's do it. And he he gave me a tarantula.
00:15:29
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:15:31
CHANTELLE KINCY
Oh.
00:15:32
Alexandra
And at that point, I was like, this has to be a joke. Like, like i where are the camera crews? Like, this just keeps...
00:15:37
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah. Thought we were friends, dude. I was kind of looking for something. Yeah.
00:15:42
Alexandra
No, they love us. That's what they eat. and i And I just ate a tarantula in the hospital. Just right there.
00:15:50
Alexandra
He's probably like, watch this. This is going funniest joke ever.
00:15:54
CHANTELLE KINCY
Look what I get the American to do.
00:15:56
Alexandra
like i'm going to get the American to eat a spider in this hospital. That's what she needs right now.
00:16:00
CHANTELLE KINCY
yeah I'm going to tell her it's a gift so she can't say no.
00:16:08
CHANTELLE KINCY
um Okay, so how was that prepared? Was it like fried? or was it like still hairy?
00:16:15
Alexandra
I'm not sure.
00:16:15
CHANTELLE KINCY
What was happening with the trench?
00:16:17
Alexandra
I didn't ask.
00:16:18
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like on a stick?
00:16:20
Alexandra
No, it was just like a little, trickch it kind of tasted like beef jerky a little bit. Just like like, like it wasn't terrible. I didn't eat it all. I just ate enough to, you know, like be respectful.
00:16:31
Alexandra
But yeah, it was just, it was just such a funny, i was like, yeah, sure.
00:16:38
CHANTELLE KINCY
You like at this point it is what it is. Like, sure. Give me the damn spider.
00:16:41
Alexandra
You know. Yeah, I was like, you know what? I'll eat anything at this point. Whatever. It's fine. and
00:16:50
CHANTELLE KINCY
Oh my gosh. All right. So any like lasting scars or did you get repierced? How's the ear?
00:16:56
Alexandra
Oh, oh man. it's So it's not as bad. I think it could have been a lot worse for sure.
00:17:01
CHANTELLE KINCY
right
00:17:02
Alexandra
And I think that it was funny because when I came back to the US, I went to like an actual, you know, like I went to one like my doctor and, and, um you know, like the nurses in there, like triaging and taking the story, you know how they do in a doctor's office.
00:17:09
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:17:15
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:17:16
Alexandra
And I was like, you want the long version? You want the short version? And he goes, I want the short version, obviously. And then I start going, he's like, I'm going stop you right there.
00:17:24
CHANTELLE KINCY
Wait, give it all to me.
00:17:24
Alexandra
do you do Do you mind if if you just come out here and tell this? Because like, like I'm going to hear it. I'm like, they're going to hear it anyway. And they're all going to read this, but we all need the long version of this story. So I went out there and told my story. And yeah, he said that um it's always just going to be like kind of hypersensitive. I do have like two little dots there, but it's nothing, it's nothing terrible. But there are some lasting scars from, a from these two earrings.
00:17:50
CHANTELLE KINCY
You know he tells people about you, though. They're like, oh, I'm headed to Asia.
00:17:52
Alexandra
Oh, sure. Yeah.
00:17:54
CHANTELLE KINCY
And he's like, oh, I had a patient once who, like, but they're like, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:59
Alexandra
Right. And I told him, I was always like, you can tell whoever you want because this is a weird one. And he's like, I have never heard of this before or just any, like, like that is so traumatizing.
00:18:06
CHANTELLE KINCY
good
00:18:09
Alexandra
i was like, I know. Isn't that crazy?
00:18:12
CHANTELLE KINCY
Because i worked in where I worked in a dental office before I started doing travel full-time, and there are certain patient stories that we tell everybody.
00:18:21
Alexandra
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:18:22
CHANTELLE KINCY
because They're just like, what? But like no one knows who they are or anything.
00:18:25
Alexandra
Right.
00:18:26
CHANTELLE KINCY
and
00:18:26
Alexandra
We're still HIPAA compliant, but, you know.
00:18:27
CHANTELLE KINCY
But there's certain stories that like everybody tells, and so I know you're one of them.
00:18:28
Alexandra
Yeah.
00:18:34
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:18:34
Alexandra
Oh, oh, I know. And that's why he was like, he was like, these nurses, everybody on this floor is going to hear this story. So you might as well tell it.
00:18:41
CHANTELLE KINCY
I can hear it from you. I love that you can laugh about it now though. Like in the moment when you're sitting there like biting your tongue and like clinging for life as they're cutting your ear open. I'm sure you weren't like, you know, one day is going be my favorite story and I'm to go go on a podcast and tell everybody.
00:18:58
Alexandra
Right. You have be like something.
00:19:00
CHANTELLE KINCY
and
00:19:00
Alexandra
My pain will be used for entertainment later. That is what I'm here for.
00:19:05
CHANTELLE KINCY
I know I'm only laughing because you are like if you were still crying I would be slightly more sympathetic right
00:19:10
Alexandra
Oh, no, no, no. I have to laugh about it. You know, that's what taught me. You just you just got to laugh about it. Let it go. and there it is.
00:19:17
CHANTELLE KINCY
see
00:19:17
Alexandra
It is kind of funny. And I do feel bad for like my poor parents and my best friend who had to, you know, it was like 3 a.m. m there and I'm just calling them and I'm like, they didn't use anesthesia.
00:19:24
CHANTELLE KINCY
may
00:19:29
Alexandra
And they're just sitting there going, No.
00:19:31
CHANTELLE KINCY
and You can't do anything either as a parent, like nothing even remotely the same.
00:19:34
Alexandra
no
00:19:36
CHANTELLE KINCY
But when my middle son went to college for the first time, he would call me really upset in the middle of the night. He would be like, football's hard. Like my classes are hard. I hate everybody here, blah, blah, blah, blah. blah And then he would be upset.
00:19:49
CHANTELLE KINCY
And I would kind of like, okay, you just got to get through it. Everybody's feeling the same way. no everyone's having a great time, but me. And I'm like, no, no, no, it's okay. And so then I would stay up for like hours. I'd be like, oh my gosh, he's so, he's so unhappy.
00:19:59
Alexandra
Just worrying. Yeah,
00:20:01
CHANTELLE KINCY
He's so this. And I don't know, did I make the right choice by saying like, he had choices to where to play football. Maybe he shouldn't have gone to this one, like that ah all these things. And I would just be up all night. And then I would cry because I'd be like such a piece of crap mom.
00:20:12
CHANTELLE KINCY
So the next day I would text him.
00:20:12
Alexandra
but you can't do anything, you know?
00:20:13
CHANTELLE KINCY
I'm like,
00:20:14
Alexandra
Like, what can you do?
00:20:14
CHANTELLE KINCY
But you can't help, right? And I would text him the next day.
00:20:16
Alexandra
Yeah.
00:20:17
CHANTELLE KINCY
I'd be like, how are you doing? He's like, great, why? And I was like, oh, okay. So you're good. It'd be like, he just needed to vent. And then he was fine.
00:20:27
Alexandra
Right.
00:20:27
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like as a mom, I'd be like, should I fly down there? Like, what should I do? Like, should I send them a present? Should I like put money on his Venmo? Like, what should I do? And he's like, what are you talking about? was fine.
00:20:37
CHANTELLE KINCY
I'm just going class, you know?
00:20:38
Alexandra
you didn't you you didn't You didn't turn yourself into a hot dog and say, don't be a wiener?
00:20:41
CHANTELLE KINCY
No, no. Now, when I knew there were drinking stories and he sent me this
Finding Humor in Travel Mishaps
00:20:48
CHANTELLE KINCY
one one day and his whole leg and left side of his body was like ru road rash.
00:20:53
Alexandra
Oh.
00:20:54
CHANTELLE KINCY
He's like, oh, I fell last night. I'm like, did you fall last night, Nate?
00:20:59
Alexandra
Yeah.
00:21:00
CHANTELLE KINCY
You know? And then he's like, yeah. I'm like, did you fall at the frat house? And then he'd be like, um and then all the jokes because I don't care.
00:21:10
Alexandra
laughter
00:21:10
CHANTELLE KINCY
But like... Like make stupid choices, win stupid prizes. i don't care.
00:21:16
CHANTELLE KINCY
That's on you. Okay.
00:21:16
Alexandra
with stupid prizes.
00:21:17
Alexandra
I love that. You know, I'll, I'll tell you a story that'll make you feel a little bit better as a mom so that you don't say, Oh, at least that's not my kid.
00:21:22
CHANTELLE KINCY
okay
00:21:25
Alexandra
Uh, on the same trip, you know, as I said, I was gone for quite a while and I was in Thailand previous to this whole incident. And I kind of, um, I just fell like I've just, I just fell off a curb, you know, and I, um, I kind of skinned my knee and we were going,
00:21:40
Alexandra
into lao laos you know and we were doing this like pub crawl on the river um so it's like you get in an inner tube and then they like throw you a rope and you just go to pubs all along the river and then you just tube to the next one but anyway
00:21:51
CHANTELLE KINCY
Okay. Water and alcohol. Good choices. Good choices.
00:21:54
Alexandra
Yep. Oh, yeah. It's such a bad idea.
00:21:57
CHANTELLE KINCY
Probably hot and humid already.
00:21:57
Alexandra
But um oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, no, this is not a great idea.
00:22:00
CHANTELLE KINCY
no
00:22:02
Alexandra
But um they told me that I had to put like a bag over my injury just because like the water wasn't clean. And I ran into another guy with a bag over his leg in the same place. And I was like, oh, my gosh, dude, what'd you do? I fell off a curb because I'm clumsy.
00:22:19
Alexandra
This dude, he's Australian. Let's just preface that. So they're all Yeah.
00:22:24
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah. Indeed.
00:22:26
Alexandra
Him and his buddies got drunk and they went to this like archery range right next door. And he bet his friend that he couldn't shoot an apple off of his head and he shot it through his leg.
00:22:39
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah. See, I raised three boys, so I already knew where this story was going.
00:22:42
Alexandra
this sounds This sounds really, you're like, oh, this is familiar.
00:22:43
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:22:47
Alexandra
This happened last Tuesday.
00:22:50
CHANTELLE KINCY
Wait, is his name? No, just kidding.
00:22:55
Alexandra
He's like, don't tell my mother. And I just did on a live podcast.
00:22:57
CHANTELLE KINCY
it
00:22:59
CHANTELLE KINCY
And your grandma's going to hear it too.
00:23:03
CHANTELLE KINCY
um Interesting. Yeah. They're so weird boys, not Australians, boys. Like i don't get it, but yeah. So I was always that kind of mom that would just be like, you going or you going to die?
00:23:15
CHANTELLE KINCY
like but like emotional trauma that would break me like physical trauma i'm like so is the bone in or is it out but like if you're like my feelings are hurt i mean oh my gosh what am i gonna do yeah
00:23:17
Alexandra
rub Rub some dirt in it.
00:23:23
Alexandra
Right.
00:23:28
Alexandra
But it just made me like his attitude was so amazing towards it that I was like, I feel like I need to go to Australia and find a husband.
00:23:30
CHANTELLE KINCY
yeah yeah
00:23:35
Alexandra
Like, I want your level of calm during this situation.
00:23:37
CHANTELLE KINCY
yeah
00:23:38
Alexandra
Like, it was so just like commendable.
00:23:39
CHANTELLE KINCY
And then you're also like wanting to unwrap your leg because you just fell off a curb and like don't have a cool story or like you have to make something better.
00:23:41
Alexandra
I was like, wow.
00:23:46
Alexandra
No.
00:23:46
CHANTELLE KINCY
like you
00:23:47
Alexandra
Oh, yeah.
00:23:47
CHANTELLE KINCY
but
00:23:48
Alexandra
No, mine was not cool
Overcoming Adversity and Gaining Confidence
00:23:49
Alexandra
at all. It was not like that. Yeah.
00:23:52
CHANTELLE KINCY
ah That's amazing.
00:23:56
CHANTELLE KINCY
um What kind of things were you telling yourself back to the ear? Yeah.
00:23:59
Alexandra
Oh, yeah.
00:24:00
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like what got you through like your mom? Like, I know she helped, but like, how were you like, I want to go home. I mean, I know you thought it, you had to have been like, screw all of this whole trip, this whole country.
00:24:10
Alexandra
Oh, yeah.
00:24:12
CHANTELLE KINCY
I don't want to do it. um But then like you didn't. So what,
00:24:18
Alexandra
I think it was just that I had so much left to do ah you know like on my trip. I mean, I still had like yeah Australia and Fiji and New Zealand, and I was like going over to Hawaii. So i was like, okay, I just need to suck it up and just ride it out. And I think I just kind of realized that you know this was happening to me and it sucked. It kind of felt like one of those dreams that you have where like everything's going wrong and then you wake up and you're like, oh, that was just a dream, that makes sense.
00:24:46
Alexandra
But it's just I would wake up and I'd be like, nope, that actually happened.
00:24:48
CHANTELLE KINCY
like Nope, still hurts.
00:24:48
Alexandra
Cool. Still hurts. Awesome. But, you know, just like honestly just kind of writing it out just being like, it sucks. I can't do anything about it. All I can do is just, you know, do my best just to try to heal it and still have a good time and live life.
00:24:58
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:25:04
Alexandra
So that's kind of what what got me through it, too.
00:25:04
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:25:07
CHANTELLE KINCY
Even though it definitely put a damper on your plans because I know you wanted to be in the water. I know you wanted to, you know.
00:25:13
Alexandra
Yeah, I did. ah did break that um promise to my doctor like three times and and how I did, I tried to like MacGyver my entire side of my head with like band-aids.
00:25:26
Alexandra
Like I had like band-aids like coming all down my face and like all around because I was just trying so hard to keep, oh my gosh, I know.
00:25:31
CHANTELLE KINCY
Because like three months seems excessive. Like I'll give you like six weeks ish, but three months is like a long time.
00:25:37
Alexandra
Right, three months. Yeah. So I think that's so that's another thing that I was very, you know, grateful for this experience is I was like walking around these waterfalls and like doing and, you know, diving down and stuff with like these huge things and people would stare at me and I'd be like, i don't care.
00:25:51
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:25:53
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:25:56
Alexandra
Like, I just don't care. Like you can stare at me. It's not going to make me need like your magically heal. but Yeah, it's not contagious.
00:26:02
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah. It's not contagious. Go away.
00:26:06
Alexandra
Don't worry about it I'm just trying to survive out here, okay?
00:26:12
CHANTELLE KINCY
But now you can laugh about it. And now when little things happen to you, you can be like, oh I just missed a train. That's nothing because I've had my ears sliced open with no anesthetic.
00:26:22
Alexandra
Oh, yeah.
00:26:22
CHANTELLE KINCY
in the So like, this is no big deal. Like probably nothing is really that big of a deal at this point. Right. You're like, yeah, it's an inconvenience.
00:26:28
Alexandra
Yeah, that's...
00:26:30
CHANTELLE KINCY
It's just, you know,
00:26:31
Alexandra
Yeah, that's definitely something that I have like reflected on a lot with like the lessons that I've learned where i was like, okay, you know, something crazy happened. I dealt with it. You know, I didn't lose my ear.
00:26:42
Alexandra
I was, the you know, my life wasn't in danger or something and I just dealt with it. And that brings so much confidence, you know, where you're like, oh my gosh, like i did all of that by myself.
00:26:48
CHANTELLE KINCY
Heck yeah.
00:26:52
Alexandra
I mean, you know I might have cried to my mom, but I was the one who dealt with insurance. I was the one who, you know even when I was in so much pain and you know so it was really like a confidence booster.
00:27:01
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:27:02
Alexandra
And it is like, you know I'm like, oh, things can happen while we travel. It's just not going to be that level.
00:27:08
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:27:08
Alexandra
And if I can handle that, I can handle anything.
00:27:08
CHANTELLE KINCY
No.
00:27:11
CHANTELLE KINCY
And your mom can talk to you all you want. She wants, but she wasn't there. She wasn't there. You were the only one there. You weren't with a big group of friends. Like you had to suck it up really and just
From Medical School to Full-Time Mermaid
00:27:22
CHANTELLE KINCY
do it. And so that's so bad-ass.
00:27:25
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like you were 20. You were just like, yeah, let's do it. That's so I mean, I'm not happy that happened to you, but it's very empowering and it is kind of cool that you did it. So in hindsight.
00:27:25
Alexandra
Thank you.
00:27:36
Alexandra
Yeah, and you just you never know with with travel, truly, you know, and you just never know where you are. I actually had not not as much of a health scare, but like kind of something similar happened like two months previous.
00:27:48
Alexandra
I was in India and it was just so hot and I think I had cracked heels and I was walking around all these temples without any shoes because they don't allow shoes in most of the temples.
00:27:55
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah. geez.
00:27:58
Alexandra
So I actually got cellulitis in my foot and had to take like this train to Agra.
00:28:00
CHANTELLE KINCY
um geez
00:28:04
Alexandra
and where Yeah, but anyway, so I got there and was like, please help me. And all of the doctors were on strike. So I never got any medical attention from it. And I had to, um I was um prepping for medical school at this point in my life.
00:28:17
Alexandra
So I just like read a bunch of books. like a scientific journals and just self-diagnosed by myself and got and got like black market antibiotics like had like I just like grabbed someone was like okay where can I get these and they're like okay down that shop but it's a little seedy I'll go with you and I was like oh my gosh so I think at this point my parents were like we don't even want to hear from you until it's over like just tell us it worked out fine
00:28:24
CHANTELLE KINCY
I
00:28:27
CHANTELLE KINCY
ah but
00:28:39
CHANTELLE KINCY
i was just going to say, but you didn't tell your mom that part, right? Because that's the kind of stuff that sends us.
00:28:43
Alexandra
Oh, yeah, no, she she was like, oh, just don't tell. And i was like, what do you want me to do? Not take him at all? And she's like, well, no, I just like want to make sure they're legit. And i was like, how do I tell? i don't know.
00:28:53
CHANTELLE KINCY
What do you want me to do?
00:28:54
CHANTELLE KINCY
Get out my little drug test kit and scientifically examine the contents?
00:28:55
Alexandra
what do you want me to do?
00:28:58
Alexandra
I don't have a lot of options here.
00:29:04
Alexandra
Luckily, I did have two nurses that were traveling with me and they um like looked up all the ingredients. So so they kind of like looked it over and they were like, okay, well, if it is it's everything that it says it is, it should be fine.
00:29:15
CHANTELLE KINCY
If it wasn't made right here on this corner, then you're probably fine.
00:29:18
Alexandra
Right?
00:29:22
Alexandra
Oh my gosh. So, you know, it's just, it's just these stories that really like, obviously they're not great and you wish they don't happen to you, but you know, I'm just like, you know what?
00:29:23
CHANTELLE KINCY
at you surviving.
00:29:33
Alexandra
Bring it on. Anything that happens during travel, bring it on.
00:29:37
CHANTELLE KINCY
I know. Isn't it funny too? I feel like I'm so like a different person when I travel. Like at home, ah you would do something totally different. Like this wouldn't be a funny story. would like, oh, my freaking ear got infected and now I got to do this. and
00:29:51
Alexandra
Yeah.
00:29:52
CHANTELLE KINCY
And I would just be so grumpy about the whole thing. But now like when it happens somewhere else, you're like, oh my gosh, sure this so this one time I was like, it's just like a totally different, guess that's why we should just travel full time so that we're happier about everything. don't know.
00:30:06
Alexandra
I know it definitely does put it in perspective for sure.
00:30:08
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:30:09
Alexandra
You know, cause yeah.
00:30:09
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like i had to get like an IV in Naples and all this antibiotics. And I spent the whole day like hooked up to IVs to like, you know, like feel better.
00:30:18
Alexandra
Oh my gosh.
00:30:20
CHANTELLE KINCY
yeah, Then like the next day I just went out and had pizza and like, was I would have milked that for a week. if I was like, good look at the bruise.
00:30:33
Alexandra
Look at the bruise.
00:30:33
CHANTELLE KINCY
Oh, I still tolerate.
00:30:34
Alexandra
When you're traveling, you're like, oh, no, no, no.
00:30:35
CHANTELLE KINCY
I couldn't even get to eat.
00:30:36
Alexandra
Get me out of here.
00:30:37
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah. You know, I'm just like, like, so we've got five more minutes of this, right?
00:30:39
Alexandra
I don't want to be here.
00:30:43
CHANTELLE KINCY
Cause I got something to do like go do in a minute.
00:30:46
Alexandra
like, yeah, man, if this is the US, like people pay for that. To just lay there with an IV. I used to be an EMT, so I know.
00:30:54
CHANTELLE KINCY
um I was just sitting in there like listening to music. was like, did it, did it.
00:30:59
Alexandra
least you got pizza afterwards. Like that's a pretty, that's a pretty good trade-off.
00:31:00
CHANTELLE KINCY
Right? I'm Naples. Hello.
00:31:03
Alexandra
Oh, yeah, like the best pizza in the world.
00:31:04
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like, come on. So, okay, we can't end this podcast without knowing how you became a mermaid.
Current Adventures and Future Plans
00:31:12
CHANTELLE KINCY
that is brilliant.
00:31:12
Alexandra
Oh, yes.
00:31:15
Alexandra
of oh so It's kind of a different... So um after I was done with this, I kind of realized that I was like a very like adventurous soul. You know, that was kind of who I am. But I ignored all of it. I ignored all the signs, everything. And I actually went to medical school in Hungary for a while.
00:31:31
Alexandra
And then just kind of sat there and was like, what am I doing? Like, i just I just want to... you know help people adventure and help people travel and you know maybe put their mind a little bit at ease.
00:31:42
Alexandra
you know If you are a female solo traveler, fact that I did that, you can too. There's nothing special about me. You can do it too.
00:31:47
CHANTELLE KINCY
i
00:31:49
Alexandra
you know So just, ah yeah. So I quit. i sold everything. I moved into an RV. And I just think, ah well, first of my parents got married underwater.
00:32:00
Alexandra
So I've always just kind of been like a mermaid.
00:32:02
CHANTELLE KINCY
You were born into it, yeah.
00:32:03
Alexandra
ah Yeah. and you know, they're they're free and they're fun and they're adventurous. And, you know, so that's kind of, um you know, it just made sense. It was very authentically me.
00:32:13
CHANTELLE KINCY
That's so cool.
00:32:15
Alexandra
I definitely get a lot of looks in public. So it it definitely has forced me to step out of my comfort zone even further.
00:32:22
CHANTELLE KINCY
Heck with it. um And you only went to medical school so you could treat yourself when you travel without having to stop and chill.
00:32:28
Alexandra
know.
00:32:31
CHANTELLE KINCY
I just want to help my community.
00:32:32
CHANTELLE KINCY
My trauma has taught me to never deal with this again.
00:32:32
Alexandra
Right.
00:32:34
Alexandra
Yeah. like, doctors are on strike. Doctors taking a day off. I'll be the doctor. Fine.
00:32:41
Alexandra
ah True.
00:32:41
CHANTELLE KINCY
of my trauma has taught me to never deal with this again
00:32:45
Alexandra
i will be my own doctor. Thank you.
00:32:47
CHANTELLE KINCY
but
00:32:51
CHANTELLE KINCY
I love it. So right now you're in the U S is that where you are for a while now, or do you have any other abroad plans or are you just cruising around?
00:32:59
Alexandra
Yeah, just kind of cruising around the US. I am going back to Europe. I'm going to Italy in September. So very excited about that, going back over there.
00:33:07
CHANTELLE KINCY
yeah
00:33:07
Alexandra
Maybe I'll go to Naples, go get a pizza, go get an IV.
00:33:11
CHANTELLE KINCY
yeah Yeah, they're very good at it. You'll feel very good. Do you have a home base at all? Or are you really just nomading it right now?
00:33:21
Alexandra
um So a lot of my family does live in Colorado. So that's kind of like the home base, but ah yeah we're not here very often.
00:33:24
CHANTELLE KINCY
Okay.
00:33:27
Alexandra
so
00:33:28
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:33:29
Alexandra
Yeah, it's fun.
00:33:29
CHANTELLE KINCY
Oh, good for you. Very cool. Thanks for sharing your story. That was a lot of fun. I know it wasn't fun at the moment, but it was a lot of fun to hear about. And I think it's such a good example of just like, it's not always great, but it is always worth it.
00:33:44
CHANTELLE KINCY
And
00:33:44
Alexandra
Yeah.
00:33:45
Alexandra
And I'm so sorry. if I mean, I know it's a very intense story, but I think it's a, I do like telling it to people because I'm like, don't be afraid. It's fine. I mean, like that was a, yeah, like that, that was pretty bad situation, but like I'm alive here right now and I did it.
00:33:55
CHANTELLE KINCY
what's the worst that could happen?
00:33:59
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:34:00
Alexandra
So don't, don't worry about it.
00:34:01
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah.
00:34:02
Alexandra
Just do it.
00:34:03
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah. I'm not always like you. I'm always like, if I could do it, you could do it. People are like, Oh, I wish I could do that.
00:34:07
Alexandra
Yeah.
00:34:08
CHANTELLE KINCY
I'm like, I am a mess. Like if I could do any of these things, everybody can do it.
00:34:15
CHANTELLE KINCY
Like,
00:34:15
Alexandra
Right, that's what I was like, i'm not I'm nothing special.
00:34:17
Alexandra
If I can do it, so can you.
00:34:19
CHANTELLE KINCY
No. Yeah, just go. so very cool. Thank you so much for hanging out with us and telling us that story. I sure appreciate it. Tell everyone where they can follow your adventures.
00:34:30
CHANTELLE KINCY
I'm going to put the links down in the description for people so they can find you, but go ahead and just tell us where we can follow all of your mermaid adventures.
00:34:38
Alexandra
Yeah, so I'm called the Bucketless Mermaid and on pretty much all social media, I'm at the Bucketless Mermaid or you can just Google the Bucketless Mermaid.
00:34:47
CHANTELLE KINCY
So cool.
00:34:47
Alexandra
Easy, easy peasy.
00:34:49
CHANTELLE KINCY
And you have a cheat sheet for photography. Is that right? Is that what we're linking?
00:34:53
Alexandra
Yeah, yeah, I do.
00:34:53
CHANTELLE KINCY
Yeah. So I'll put that in there. It's always good because you travel and you see all these amazing places and things. And then sometimes you look at your photos, you're like, hmm, that's not what I was hoping for.
00:35:06
CHANTELLE KINCY
So everyone, that's why you've learned the hard way.
00:35:06
Alexandra
And I've done it. That's why i did that cheat sheet. Because, ah yeah, I made the cheat sheet for myself and then was like, ah everyone else might as well just benefit ah from this for free.
00:35:09
CHANTELLE KINCY
That's the thing.
00:35:13
CHANTELLE KINCY
yeah.
00:35:15
CHANTELLE KINCY
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00:35:16
Alexandra
So...
00:35:17
CHANTELLE KINCY
So definitely go and grab that because it always helps. You can always learn something new and your memories and scrapbooks will thank you for having less lame photos.
00:35:29
CHANTELLE KINCY
Is there selfie tips in there? Because my selfies. Woo.
00:35:33
Alexandra
Honestly, I have not mastered the selfie game. i And I should, like, I feel like I'm born in the generation where like selfies were were like definitely a thing. And I just, I can't do it. I can't do it.
00:35:43
CHANTELLE KINCY
Because my boys will be like, why are you holding it like that? Why are you doing it like that? And they can do it for me. And then they're just like, ugh.
00:35:50
Alexandra
Like I'm trying my best, okay.
00:35:52
CHANTELLE KINCY
Or like, they'll be like, take a picture. And then I'll get like a list of instructions. Don't turn it this way. Don't zoom it in. Don't use portrait. I'm like, I just touched it.
00:36:00
Alexandra
You're like, it's fine.
00:36:01
CHANTELLE KINCY
<unk> like They literally hand it to me like a surgical instrument. They're like hold it just like this.
00:36:06
Alexandra
Just right here.
00:36:07
CHANTELLE KINCY
Don't even move. Like, I'll move to you. Just I'll adjust myself. I'm like, okay.
00:36:12
Alexandra
Hey, they know what they want and they're not afraid to go after that. And I respect that.
00:36:17
CHANTELLE KINCY
So nine times out of 10, I just turn it to a forward or back facing camera and take my own picture instead of theirs anyways. So jokes on you.
00:36:23
Alexandra
Yeah, I'm gonna take a picture of myself, not you. So, haha.
00:36:30
CHANTELLE KINCY
right. Well, thanks for hanging out. We'll talk to you soon.
00:36:34
Alexandra
Bye guys.
00:36:34
CHANTELLE KINCY
Bye.