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Knit vs Crochet
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Welcome to your new favorite fiber arts podcast! Join Andrew (Caliri Creations) and Kelly (Cocky Crocheter) as they plunge into the exhilarating showdown of knitting versus crochet, all while keeping the vibe light and bursting with playful banter.
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Introduction to '2CCs of Fiber Arts'
00:00:14
Speaker
everyone and welcome to the very first episode of 2CCs of Fiber Arts. I am Kelly aka The Cocky Crocheter. And I'm Andrew, i own Cleary Creations. I am also known as Plant Knit Fitness. Some of you may have seen that on Instagram or YouTube.
00:00:33
Speaker
and Yes, and we are here because we decided that we had a lot to say about fiber arts because both of us are big into knitting, crochet, things like that. We're very fascinated by it and everything, and we just love talking about it.
Origin of the Podcast Name
00:00:50
Speaker
And so, yeah, but the first thing that we want to talk about before we get into all of that is why two CCs of fiber arts? So, Andrew, could you go ahead and tell everyone where did we come up with this name?
00:01:03
Speaker
Yeah, well, it was kind of like a little idea that I had because we have Kelly, who's the cocky crocheter, and then I'm Andrew with Caleri Creations. So both of our business names happen to be CEC.
00:01:19
Speaker
And, you know, just as a fun play on words, ah you know, two CCs is like also like a medical term. It's like a unit of measurement. So I thought it'd be kind of fun to play on our two businesses having two C's and, ah you know, turn it into like a yarn related thing.
00:01:38
Speaker
um We both knit and crochet. So, well, we are in fiber arts. So, yeah, thought I'd make it yarn related and fun. I don't know.
00:01:50
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, and that's really great. Yeah. It's very true. Like when you trotted that idea out, I was like immediately in love with it and thought that's cute. So let's do something
From Instagram Voice Messages to Podcasting
00:02:00
Speaker
about it. um And I think what we also really found fun about it was that we've been sending voice messages to each other just on Instagram for a while now. Like we just started because it was just easier for us than just texting um because we could just get all of our thoughts out. And we started getting to the point where we were sending so many voice recordings that it really was like listening to a podcast anytime we were listening to each other.
00:02:25
Speaker
I know for me on my commute to and from work, I know I'll have like, you know, eight or nine different messages from Andrew and it'll be like two to four minutes long on each one. And I'm just sitting there driving and like, they just listening to my little Andrew podcast. And then I turn around send him just as much to respond. And so he's also on his way to the gym or like, you know, to his knitting group and he's listening to mine. And it's just like that back and forth. and we're like, you know what?
00:02:51
Speaker
Why not start a podcast? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that basically is the idea. We're already putting our thoughts out there in audio recording, but just kind of like privately. So, I mean, why not create a public podcast and share our love of fiber arts with other people and just, you know, find ways to connect with other people over yarn and crochet and knitting and all that stuff.
00:03:18
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. And I'm like, you know what? Even if we get like only two or three people who are just our biggest fans who listen to us, we're like, it's okay. We enjoy just like chatting. So, you know, we thought, yeah, this is just going to be, it's a fun project, but you know, it also would be nice if it, you know,
00:03:38
Speaker
brought a lot of joy to other people who got to participate and like, you know, listen to some fun fiber art
Knitting vs. Crochet Preferences
00:03:44
Speaker
stuff. So yeah, so let's dive right into it. Our very first episode, we decided one of the things we'll talk about is the fiber arts that we enjoy. So we're going to be talking about knit versus crochet. Now I know for me that we have both probably, and if you're listening, you've probably experienced this too,
00:04:03
Speaker
Lots of people in the fiber arts have very like strong opinions about which one they prefer, which one they find easier, and all that stuff. And it's just it's going to be a never-ending debate until you know the end of time. But we're going to be talking about like you know our perspectives of crochet versus knitting, why we do it, and you know all that stuff. So um where do you want to start? like i yeah Do you want to start with what you prefer? I'll start by...
Andrew's Knitting and Crochet Journey
00:04:32
Speaker
ah Yeah, I mean, for me, I'm a knitter by trade. i started knitting when I was nine and I'm turning 31 in a couple months. So it's been most of my life as a knitter.
00:04:44
Speaker
And I only learned crochet recently, like in the last two years or two and a half years. So for me, knitting is always like, whenever I get back to knitting, it feels like coming home. Like I'm coming back to the same stitches that I was doing as a kid and ah feels like very therapeutic.
00:05:02
Speaker
But I've also grown to love crochet so much. And now I'm actually like a crochet designer. So, you know, you can manage both. that But what about you? You're mostly a crocheter.
00:05:16
Speaker
Yeah, i pretty much I mean, my name being the cocky crocheter, yes, it's
Kelly's Crafting Evolution
00:05:21
Speaker
primarily yeah crochet. However, interestingly enough, the first thing I actually mastered was knitting. um i say mastered. The first thing I picked up was knitting. My first time attempting to crochet,
00:05:32
Speaker
I think it was like 10 or 11 and my mom was trying to teach me and I could not figure out how to do a single crochet to save my life. Like I got the chain just fine, but single crochet, was like, I'm lost. I don't get this. But then like senior year of high school, um a lot of the people in my debate group, they picked up knitting and I thought it looked fun. So I picked it up and figured out how to do it. And it was a lot of fun and I really enjoyed it. But then it made me think after I had knitted a while, I was like, you know what? I think I could do crochet now that I know how to do knitting. Crochet doesn't seem like it would be beyond my difficulty. So I asked my mom again and she taught me and I was like I don't know what made this so hard. So I started doing it and I was actually doing both fairly equally for a while through like the beginning of college.
00:06:21
Speaker
But then after a bit, crochet just became the number one. It just, it started to default. It was just easier for me. Yeah. Um, I think, uh, you know, like I technically, yeah.
00:06:33
Speaker
Um, I, I think like, Once you get the hang of holding the yarn for crochet, that's like the biggest thing. And like once you can figure out how to hold tension in crochet, I think it's like that's the main barrier for most people, at least for me, because I can never figure it out.
Crochet Simplicity vs. Knitting Complexity
00:06:51
Speaker
um But then it is a lot faster. so I totally understand why it would be someone's like preferred thing because knitting is a commitment. but Yes, it really was. i like know that when I was doing it, I mean, it was very enjoyable, but also after a while I'm like, there's just so many loops on there and it just, I could not figure out how to purl.
00:07:16
Speaker
Turns out it's because I was doing my knit stitches backwards because of how I was learning. Like I just, I wasn't doing the right. So trying to learn how to purl was difficult for me. But in crochet, when I learned a new stitch, it was so easy, but you're right. I think that was the case is that like,
00:07:30
Speaker
holding the yarn and your project at the same time, like one hand has to do so much work yeah and the other one, like it just it's it's very fiddly. It does not feel natural.
00:07:40
Speaker
Whereas for knitting, for me, when I was doing it, I was like, you can clearly see your loops. You clearly see where the needle needs to go. And I think that's why I was able to get that much faster when I first did it. Yeah. So yeah um one of the things that I know that I'm interested in learning is you said you started knitting at nine.
00:07:58
Speaker
um And i don't actually know the origin story. Like I told you about how I started learning how to crochet and knit, but you actually have not shared your story because you wanted to save it for here. So I'd love to know, like, so you started at nine.
00:08:12
Speaker
How did you learn how to knit? Yeah. Well, actually, um you know, I was in, I think, fourth grade and my teacher brought in a fifth grader from her class last year.
00:08:24
Speaker
And it was a guy. It was like a a boy. And so I was like looking up to this guy because, you know, he's older than me and he's teaching us how to knit. um So I think that we just probably had like Red Heart spare yarn or whatever, you know, just like cheap acrylic yarn, like laying around in the classroom and pencils.
00:08:47
Speaker
And so those are my first two knitting needles are like two pencils, sharpened like wooden pencils. And he gave us a little demo in class. Yeah, i know.
00:08:58
Speaker
ah But that guy gave us a demo and I became like immediately obsessed. I was fascinated with the idea of turning yarn, which is basically like nothing, you know, you can't do anything with it.
00:09:11
Speaker
You can turn it into something that's actually useful, like a scarf or blanket or anything like that. So yeah, I was just immediately, I'm sold. I need to get to a yarn shop and I need to learn this.
00:09:26
Speaker
Oh my God. I love that. Like, I, I'm so glad like you saved that because that is such a cute story. because I know a lot of people have a very similar story to me where it's like a family member taught them like their mother, their grandmother, or something like that. But you literally had just like a fellow classmate, a grade above you. And it happened to be a guy like, I know.
00:09:46
Speaker
That's so cool. yeah like yeah Yeah. That part I think is really cool because it's like, I mean, I don't know where he is now. I couldn't tell you his name. All I know literally is that he's a fifth grader or he was a fifth grader when I was a fourth grader.
00:10:01
Speaker
So I couldn't even find him now. But literally that one moment totally redirected the trajectory of my whole life. so Oh my God. I love that. like it Because now like you're you. Okay. So then you started doing crochet. um you said like what, like two and a half years ago, you're going to pick it up. um So I know that for me, like I enjoyed crochet because of my mom at first, but then after a while I loved like what you could do with it and the freedom that you had to like make
Learning Crochet for a Group Project
00:10:32
Speaker
with stuff. um And then I started getting into crochet design itself, which we'll be talking in more detail, you know, another time, but yeah,
00:10:40
Speaker
the You like picked it up, but I'm like, what made you want to do crochet when you had knitting and you're obviously fascinated by it? Yeah, so the story of getting into crochet was, ah so I'm in a knitting group. It's a a queer men's fiber arts group, so it's very specific. um But it's a great community, and ah we meet up at this public cafe, and the owner of the cafe is like really nice to us.
00:11:09
Speaker
And he told us that him and his wife were going to have a baby, their first child. And my group decided to do a group project, a crochet project. And so I kind of had to learn crochet.
00:11:23
Speaker
So we were all making granny squares to be a part of this baby blanket for like as a gift. And like, I thank you for letting us use your cafe every Sunday, you know?
00:11:33
Speaker
Oh, that's so sweet. Oh, I love that. Yay. So I literally had to learn crochet. Okay. You're like, wasn't even a, I wanted to, it's like you had to, but I mean, that's still really like changed your trajectory. Cause like, yeah yeah. Well then if that's okay. so then now that we kind of like got our stories down there, one thing I kind of was thinking,
00:11:57
Speaker
was like, you know, since we both have had experience with both, um and obviously like we gravitate towards one, like you said, knitting is kind of like going home. And for me, crochet, like I can knit, but I'm like, there's, I have no interest really in pursuing knitting as like a primary art form. Cause I'm like, I still have so much to crochet and I don't have time. So um yeah what, yeah, for me, I'm like, I think the reason that I gravitate more towards crochet is the simplicity of it. Like you really do just need the one hook and the one set of yarn you're good to go. And I know that that's what draws a lot of people to it. They're like, it just seems so much easier. so okay but I think that definitely...
00:12:40
Speaker
By the same logic, for knitting, all you need is two needles and yarn. You know what I mean? it's You're right. you're Okay. Yes, but I will say, okay, so yes, that is true. However, i will also say that you need a bunch of other tools sometimes because, yes, you could just use two needles, but I don't really know anybody who uses only like those two straight needles anymore. They always use corded needles like the... Oh, yeah.
00:13:09
Speaker
I cannot remember the name. What is it called? They're circular needles. Circular needles. Yes. Oh my God. Why couldn't I think of that? Okay. Circular needles. Actually, you're right. You're right. Yeah.
00:13:19
Speaker
So it's always like, I'm always, that all the time, seeing people be like, okay, I've got to go buy another set of these circular needles because the current ones, that the size I need, are being held on a project. So they can't just remove those needles and use them. So I'm like, I can just use the same hook on multiple projects. Yeah. So I think...
00:13:38
Speaker
that That way, of crochet is superior when it comes to the tools. So superior? ah Sorry. Wow. Sorry. easier Easier when it comes to the tools. Yes, that's what I really meant by it. But um so, okay. So, all right. Well, if we're going head to head and we're thinking of it like a competition, knit versus crochet, I will say that I think crochet would win the battle given like tool complexity.
Starting Projects: Crochet vs. Knitting
00:14:04
Speaker
um If you want something where you have to buy a bunch of things, a bunch of interchangeables or a bunch of circular needles, all those tools, you have to use a lot more in knitting. Whereas crochet, you would just need the hook and the yarn.
00:14:17
Speaker
I'd also say that um you would need an equivalent amount of the other accessories like scissors, yarn needles, things like that. I'm like, both crafts have to use those. So to me, those are yeah true moot.
00:14:28
Speaker
Yeah, but it really comes down to that. I don't know. like Yeah. So yes, think crochet wins in that regard. Okay, well, I would say if we're if we're going to go head to head, let's go head to head, all right? Because I think knitting definitely takes the cake. Yeah, I think knitting definitely takes the cake with, like, in general, final outcome. I think knitting will look more uniform. I know you can get crochet to look very nice, um but I would say, like, knitting, i think, is a lot...
00:15:00
Speaker
It's more complex, so you can kind of like use a lot more techniques to like, like Fair Isle knitting, I think looks better than Fair Isle crochet kind of thing. um I don't know. Okay. Do you know what i mean?
00:15:15
Speaker
I do get to get what you mean. Because you're a crocheter. As a, okay, yes. because Okay, so as a crocheter, know that I probably shouldn't say this, but yes, I will say there are certain characteristics of knitted fabric that do look a little bit nicer. Okay, I admit that. I'm not saying i can't do nice things with crochet. Obviously, that's what I'm attempting to do with my designs. But yes, when you want just like that classic chic look, knitting really, I think does kind of take the cake on that. Um, yeah. Well, and also yeah it's like, I mean, fair it's a lot flatter, you know, crochet is thicker no matter what, even if you're using like fingering weight, it's always just like a little bit thicker because of like the nature of the stitches versus knitting. Like you could get that to lay like pretty flat.
00:16:08
Speaker
Okay, yes, but that does mean, okay, so think about it this way. i'm gonna counterpoint with that one. ah The knitted fabric being so flat means that the crochet will always have an advantage when it comes to making warm things.
00:16:25
Speaker
So if you want to make like a hat or a scarf or a sweater, that's really going to keep you warm. Like in the winter, ah crochet hands down is always going to be your thicker option. So, you know, ah point to crochet, right? Okay. Wow. We're keeping score. Yeah.
00:16:46
Speaker
ah Yes. Okay. So, so far we've got two points for crochet, one point for knitting. Okay. Here's another one then for knitting. Knitting. I feel like okay okay you even said it. It's a lot easier for beginners. That's what I personally think.
00:17:02
Speaker
Although I know that people have differing opinions on this. ah But to me, I think knitting is like one of those, like what I like about it is it's like rigid and it's like you go from one needle to the next and it's always that same, like one needle to the next.
00:17:19
Speaker
And I think it's a good starting place for beginners because let's say you cast on 10 stitches. Well, you know you need to have 10 stitches and it's a lot easier to find your 10 stitches in knitting versus crochet.
00:17:33
Speaker
You might be like, where the heck are the stitches? You know what I mean? Like that was so hard for me when i first started crocheting. Okay, I will concede that you are correct. Counting stitches in crochet is a little bit more of a challenge.
00:17:49
Speaker
um Yeah, I know that for me, i had no idea how to count my chains when I was working into them. And I would skip chains, work in the same chain twice. I would like drop things on the ends in the beginnings. Yes, I will give you that. It is a lot harder to count stitches in crochet. But yeah,
00:18:07
Speaker
i When you said that, like the cast on thing. Okay. So when you're teaching people how to cast on there's so many freaking cast on methods that you're like, well, which one do you teach? Which one's easier for beginners? And like, you know, all those types of things. Whereas in crochet, I'm just like, okay, we're going to start with the one cast on method we've got. or Sorry. We've got two cast on methods, magic ring and chain.
00:18:30
Speaker
That's all we need. doesn't matter. You make it. Okay. that's yeah Now I'm thinking about there's actually three. like because if you start like a foundation like you're over complicating it for yourself now okay well no looky here we've got three we've got three and that's as far as it goes foundation stitches which are more advanced then you've got the chain and then you've got a magic ring or a circle or something like that and that's all you need in crochet you don't need the italian cast jenny stretchy cast on cable cast that's a bind off that is a bind off i don't think is a jenny stretchy
00:19:02
Speaker
yeah Cast on. Okay, so then there's another point. Okay, there's another point then i would say is that, okay, well, in crochet, you want to end something, you just snip it off and done.
00:19:13
Speaker
Whereas in knitting, you're like, okay, well, what kind of cast off I need to do? And again, I just listed five or ten, okay, okay. An I-cord bind off? Oh, come on. You can't get better than an I-cord bind off. It is so clean.
00:19:31
Speaker
Okay. It's so nice. Especially like, let's say you're making a Stephen West project. It's an I-cord bind off around the entire shawl. So you have, like, a tube of yarn around the whole thing. Oh, it's so nice.
00:19:46
Speaker
This is why every time I'm, like, you know, I go back and forth between knit and crochet because I get kind of sick of knitting and then I go to crochet. And then I get sick of crochet, I go back to knitting.
00:19:57
Speaker
But this is why every time I go back to knitting, I'm, like, oh, Oh, this is why I love knitting so much. I love seeing the stitches and it's just like one little like loop, you know? um so yeah, I love how clean knitting looks and like ah the uniform nature and everything. So nice.
Aesthetic Qualities of Knitting and Crochet
00:20:19
Speaker
You know what, okay, i that is fair, um but tell me how long it takes you to do an I-cord bind off on a knitting project going around the shawl.
00:20:32
Speaker
I just had to do this actually for the mystery knit along. When I finished that, it's an I-cord bind off, and oh my gosh, it is like, it takes so long.
00:20:44
Speaker
um It's worth it. I do not doubt it's worth it. Like, do not get me wrong. I completely agree. It looks worth it. Just like yeah knitting a stockinette sweater after you've done like some beautiful like cable work or something or like a Fair Isle yoke. I'm like, but I know knitters, every time they get to their stockinette section, they're like, God, now it's 90 years of stockinette over and over again. And they get so bored. Yeah. and all that and i'm like whereas in crochet for me i'm just like it does work up a little bit more quickly even when you're using like a fingering weight yarn but then you don't have to worry about how to do a cast off the most you probably ever have to do is like maybe a single crochet border around something just to clean up the edges but single crochet borders do not take nearly as much time so i will say hey that's point for crochet when it comes to time yeah Damn, okay, we've got a point system going here. Look, I can do both yes readily. And can do complex in both. So I'll take either, honestly.
00:21:45
Speaker
ah as long as you have yarn with me, I'll figure it out. Okay, fine. You know what? it's For the bisitual maker like you, yes, you're like, I can see pros and cons to both of them. And here's the thing, even not being a maker who does knitting primarily,
00:22:03
Speaker
you You have to admit I've been fair. Like, I do agree that it's like there are aspects of knitting that do have an advantage over crochet. So, you know. Yeah, yeah. I just don't want to. Yeah. But I will also say that historically speaking, it always seems like knitting seems to get the good things and crochet is just kind of like the little...
00:22:23
Speaker
stepchild or stepsister of the craft and is like, oh, it's so cute that you can do that. Yeah. um Well, think knitting is historically older than crochet. Is it not?
00:22:35
Speaker
Knitting is like a longer... It for Yeah, right? Yes. Yeah, knitting has been around a long time. Crochet is like newer. Yeah. yeah Yes. So it's still like in its youth, essentially, like it's figuring itself out. But I will say, but yeah, I mean, like, yeah, it's young and sexy and hot, whereas knitting is old hat. We've seen that before. just going to say, i yeah. Yeah, I mean, you're right. But it's had time to evolve and blossom, you know? Okay.
00:23:09
Speaker
Tell me, what can you knit a blossom as easily as you can crochet a blossom? Okay, so that... Like a little flower? Absolutely not. I could knit something and like twist it up, but you're definitely right. Crochet is so much easier for freeform things.
00:23:26
Speaker
Or even like my hat, for example, is like, this is crochet and it would be a lot harder to make with knitting because like I said, knitting is so much more rigid. And crochet is like, you could insert the hook anywhere, even if it's not technically a stitch.
00:23:41
Speaker
And that's, you know, like, even some stitches that are canonical, like a front post stitch, that's not really a stitch, but you're like making it one. So, I mean, that's a huge benefit of crochets, the free form nature.
00:23:57
Speaker
Yeah. And I think that's also like why I'm drawn to it as well is because of the fact that I'm like, when I'm thinking of creating something, i just think, okay, I'm not limited by how things will be structured or shaped or be like, where will my needles end by the time I'm done with this row?
00:24:14
Speaker
So that I have to keep that in mind when I'm like, okay, well, now if I want to start working on this part of the work, I have to like either put these loops onto a holding yarn or holder or something like that. And then I have to start looking here. i have to pick up stitches like in crochet. You're just like, all right, fasten off right here. And now insert your hook over here and join some yarn. and I'm like, there we go. That's super easy. Now I will say that I think knitted cables hands down will always win.
00:24:42
Speaker
And I hate admitting that because i love making cables in crochet. i i want more cabled things because I think cables look so classy. But i no matter how much I try, as good as I can get them to look, I think my crocheted cables will never look as good as the worst knitted cable.
00:25:01
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, knitted cables are really nice. Ah, finally. Thank you. ah yeah but Yes. ah So I guess I have been unfair, but yes. um So like you, what I know that I really enjoy knitted cables. um you yeah So what is it that you really like about knitted cables as opposed to like crochet ones?
00:25:24
Speaker
I actually have never done crochet cables. um I haven't tried that technique yet. Have you seen... I've seen them on your pattern, but I haven't actually looked closely at them. So I don't really have great reference for that.
00:25:41
Speaker
But I do love with knitting cables that like you can rearrange the stitches and then you get this... like I mean, honestly, I don't think cabling is that hard. It's definitely an inconvenience when you actually have to switch them.
00:25:56
Speaker
But ah for the amount of work that goes into doing cabling, I think the payout is so extreme. It's amazing. Yeah, I completely agree with that. It definitely always looks good. Like I've seen so many posts on Instagram of people doing these beautiful, gorgeous, like these intertwining cables that I'm like, yeah, if we were to try to accomplish a similar thing in crochet,
00:26:22
Speaker
here's the thing, like you can do like one type of cable is very easy to do where like you cross over the front or I guess for you, it'd be like this. But the moment you want to switch that is suddenly like, well, now we're having to go behind the posts we just made and reaching back there with your crochet hook to try to work. I'm like, whereas I know in like knitting, just like, okay, well the held stitches, do I flip them forward or do I just flip them to the back and then knit? I'm like, and there we go. And then you pick them up. Like that would be like when I saw that, I was like, that is so much easier. yeah, I will say like point to knitting for having cables be really great. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So then do love cabling.
00:27:07
Speaker
And I really think knitting, like for me, I think, and not that crochet can't be advanced either. There are definitely super advanced crochet things. But for me, I think knitting is like very expansive. There's always something else to learn. i mean, same with crochet too.
00:27:23
Speaker
But for me, I think knitting is like, I don't know. It's just like I said, it's like coming home. And every time I come back to knitting, i try and challenge myself with something new.
00:27:34
Speaker
And there's just always something new. um Like I think it would take so long to perfect everything that you could in knitting. And i I
The Art and Language of Fiber Arts
00:27:44
Speaker
love that. I love how expansive it is. And there's just so many offerings, so many patterns. And, you know, there's regular knitting, stockinette, there's brioche. I mean, come on, there's...
00:27:56
Speaker
I just love how much there is so many options. Okay. So if you're going to be like, you know, there's so many options, I'm just going to say like, okay, so you've got, you got a knit stitch, you've got a purl stitch, you've got the brioche knit and the brioche purl, then everything else is pretty much just a variation of that.
00:28:13
Speaker
But in crochet, you've got your single, you've got your half double, you've got your double, you got your treble. And you got your puff stitches. You've got your like, you know, well, the post stitches are just variations of doubles and doubles and things like that. So I guess that can't count as a separate stitch if I'm saying certain things are variations. um But I will say we're going to go like who has more stitches to memorize, which is more complicated.
00:28:38
Speaker
oh God, is that a point in favor against crochet? Yeah, right. That's a good point. That is a great point. Let's keep that, actually. and i think that's a point against it. I think whichever one you prefer is like is great. And there's a lot of crossover.
00:28:59
Speaker
i think, you know, even if you're not like super well-versed in one or the other, it's kind of easy to at least learn the basics of like, Maybe not being able to identify it, but at least keeping up with the lingo of like cast on, you know, that's something that's the same in both.
00:29:16
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Not the same method. But, ah you know, if I was saying like, I just cast on this whatever knit or crochet project, you would understand that I just started a project. That's true. I would, you're right. Like there is some like mutual intelligibility when it comes to knitters and crocheters. Like when you're talking about a cast on and you say like you're casting on something in crochet, I'm like, I know exactly what you mean. No, we're not putting a bunch of loops on our hook unless we're doing Tunisian. But I don't want to even bring in Tunisian. We're like, you want to talk about redheaded stepchild? Yes. I'm like, no, Tunisian gets yeah its own separate thing. Have you tried that?
00:29:53
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ah I have tried Tunisian crochet. Yeah, I have not finished a single project in it yet, but I'm interested in it and it's fun. But it like, I mean, I would, I'd be open to I would design something Indonesian because there's some techniques in it that a one crochet doesn't have. Yeah, I would. I'd be open to it. Like it's, it's, it's just, it's a little harder for me. I'm not as, naturally it doesn't come as naturally to me. So, you know, yeah that one would take a little bit more work, but yeah. Yeah. But we're at like a half hour. I've heard that. Yeah.
00:30:26
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Yes, yes, we're at a half hour. Maybe one day we could do I'm trying to think how we're going to end this. For anyone listening, we decided that we were going to do half an hour episodes, but we knew going into this that we are both chatty cappies and that we are...
00:30:43
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It's going to be impossible to find a stopping point. um Yes. but I could literally continue going on about knit versus crochet and like all the finer points. But yeah I think we basically did cover all the basics. So if you're keeping score at home, I have no idea who who won. Well, no one is keeping score. Everyone just loves getting more, obviously.
00:31:07
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Oh, whatever. Okay. No, that is not true. I mean, okay. I'll say this. think i don't I think crochet is like, especially with like the Woobles kits coming around, I think crochet is like probably more popular than
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00:31:21
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knitting. But for the people who are knitters, I think it's like, if you're a knitter, then it's like, you're probably primarily a knitter.
00:31:30
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And like, even if you can do crochet, like if you do like advanced knit patterns, I feel like you're probably more likely to stick with knitting versus like, i think the the masses are probably going more towards crochet to make all their little tiny plushies and everything. Um,
00:31:48
Speaker
So I think it's probably yeah maybe more popular, but knitting is more like an art, like, I don't know. What do you think? mean, they're both art forms. I shouldn't say that. I think, right. Yeah, i get what you I think like, yeah. So I think like crochet definitely is experiencing a huge boost in mass popularity because of things like the Woobles kits, the stuffed toys, the plushies, people yeah making stuff. I think like just in general, like the DIY era,
00:32:15
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that we have in the 21st century like is big. And so I think people have gravitated towards both of them for those different reasons. Like they do see crochet as like this outlet for fun, bright, kitschy, yeah fantastical things. Like they have so much imagination and knitting. You can go to like, it's this very well established art form there. You're right. Like if you go onto Ravelry, there's way more knitting patterns than there are crochet patterns. yeah Because it's had that time to build that library. So you have a lot of options for knitting and very well-established techniques that like you can now master and create these beautiful pieces of clothing.
00:32:51
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Whereas crochet, what you're looking for is not necessarily like these bright, beautiful pieces of well-established clothing. You're like, there's a lot of experimentation. There's a lot of fun. There's a lot of like just excitement that crochet has.
00:33:02
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And you can make yeah these little small projects as opposed to the more involved ones that like knitting seems to be popular for. So I think like, yeah, i think it's just, what is your preference? What do you want to do with it? And yeah, totally. Yeah. So I think like, I, I, I love knitting. Like I love the way it looks. I love people who knit. So there's definitely that it's just going to be my preferences. Crochet. Yeah.
00:33:22
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So I do think, yeah, it's exactly like you said, like, uh, I think being able to master both crafts is amazing. Cause if you want something like very intricate detailed, then like maybe knitting, but if you want something like, uh, uh,
00:33:38
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like free form or like a little plushy or you want it to go super fast, like crochet is definitely hands down faster than knitting. Even if you're a super fast knitter, maybe you could be faster than crochet, but I would say generally crochet is like really fast.
00:33:57
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So yeah, it's really whatever you're trying to trying to go for. And you can choose between either one or choose both like me. yay So at the end of the day, we're both just like happy to do fiber arts. Yes. Yeah. So I would say that. Yeah. but Well, at this point, um maybe what we could do is kind of like, OK, well, let's if whoever is watching, if you want to, can leave a comment of like, you know, what do you like to do? What is your preference if you have one, if you do both? um What do you gravitate towards and why, um you know, are there any things that we didn't talk about or that like we didn't come up with that maybe you could think of as like, here's a point for crochet. Here's a point for knitting that you all didn't think about. And so, you know, i would love to be able to hear that.
00:34:44
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Yeah, honestly, because if y'all want to leave comments in here, and if there's a lot that we didn't touch on, let's do a follow-up episode and, like, rehash this out and really get to the bottom of this. Yes! Not that it's, like, I don't think we set out to do, like, head-to-head competition, but that's kind of what it turned into. But, you know what? I'm happy to talk about that.
00:35:08
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Yeah, we could do like a knit versus crochet round two. Round two, yeah. We could have like, we could hold those signs, you know, like. Yes. right. Okay. Well, now let's, let okay. So let's go and wrap it up. Since it isn't going to be like the half hour, but. um Thank you all so much for joining. we love that you joined us. Please stay tuned, like, subscribe, all of that stuff to keep up with us because we're going to be putting out some other episodes and we want you to join in on those as well. In the meantime, again, I am Kelly, ah the cocky crocheter. I'm Andrew from Cleary Creations. And thank you for watching our first episode of Two CCs of Fiber Arts. Hope you come back and listen to us. Yes.
00:35:53
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talk back and forth and banter for another episode.