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D20 Radio, your game is
Introduction and Episode Overview
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Hello everyone and welcome to Eberron Renewed, TTRPG actual play podcast set in Eberron. i am Jeff. I'm Mia.
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And I'm Phillip. And that's all of us today because it is a review today, the time where we sit and we go back over the last three or four episodes, or in this case, 16 episodes.
Arc Review and Humor
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Of the podcast. I mentioned in the discord, if you would like to be a part of the discord, I'll explain where you can track that down in a moment. ah But I did mention the discord, we would be kind of doing a light overview of this arc because it was so long. If we were to get into all of the details, um, I would not make it to work in the morning or for lack of sleep.
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So um we got called away to examine or to, I've already lost words. Look at me. I'm doing great. Investigate. Thank you so much. Examine was all I could think of.
Character Exploration: Dimitri's Influence
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We were called away to investigate these interesting weapons and people who were melding with the weapon or insect ah race people who were who were melding with the weapons.
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And I think they were lizards. Oh, they were lizards. I'm sorry. They were insectoid weapons. Lizard folk wielding them. I apologize.
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But what's important is how we got there. Mia used her icon die to create Dimitri. Dimitri, the educator that Nyx hated.
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to be fair, Valk hated him first, and then no one believed him until you were trapped in a cave. Valk hated him and also might have loved him at one point. We're not sure. Potentially. there's There's a gray area in there.
00:02:19
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Yep. Valk thoroughly primed Nyx to hate this person. so But Dimitri was... Dimitri is what a certain subset of people think of when they think of Professor. He was like luch and wealthy and kind of self-important and using his students for personal gain. And those are all true about Dimitri in the way of here. Yeah.
00:02:41
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Yeah. Had his own boat. What was the name of the boat? It was named after one of his wives, right? Isn't that what we decided? was. Evelyn's B. Evelyn's B. Evelyn's B. Oh, my.
00:02:52
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And Dimitri, of course, took a liking to Selena. And Mal did everything he could to ward her off. But... I liked Dimitri, the character. i know. I understand why no one trusted Dimitri.
00:03:06
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Yeah. but No, as' a as an NPC, I thought, like, Philip thought he was hilarious. think that was wonderful. I would be willing to bet we have not seen the last of him either.
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um I think he accidentally came became too important. we We hated him into relevance, unfortunately. unfortunately um But he was helpful and important in getting us both to where we were needed to go and then also past some social barriers to get down into the mines.
00:03:41
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to continue our investigations. And I mean, the thing that sticks out to me the most, obviously is his light blackmail of yeah making it so that I had to, I mean, he basically straight up was like, going to tell people about you, nothing you can do about it.
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I can force my way in there or you can, or I guess it it was more that I can, I can be more, obtuse in my descriptions if you'll give me more information. And so I got a great scene out of it.
00:04:17
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Yeah. Probed my mind for my character's backstory. I can't, I'm sure we've talked about this, but my backstory is up to Eric in much
Dynamic Storytelling and Kaz's Backstory
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the same way. Barrick's backstory was up to Eric in campaign one.
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And Eric has promised me he learned his lesson from campaign one about destroying lives and psyches. So um Everything that you guys hear about the time in the Feywild is the first time I'm be hearing it as well.
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Well, it sounds like what he's done is he's written he's written the story so that Kaz's psyche and personal life was destroyed in the Feywild. It's just current Kaz doesn't remember anything. fair He got a redo.
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I do live in the waking nightmare of knowing that because I'm learning in real time with the listeners and many of the listeners are smarter and more well-versed in Eberron than I am. they arere going to know them ah they've They've worked out more than I know. For sure. 1000%. I'm kind of counting on Philip to to help me. He's like, hey, that's important.
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I don't know if you picked up on that, but I did. have noticed Eric has started to do to do the, like, just in case you don't know, they do this part is irrelevant.
00:05:32
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Let go. Yes. I, this is a part of, i feel like I've gotten fairly well versed in Eberron, but this is a part of it. Like when he said Lucas Ciara's other name in a future episode, I knew that one i and I picked up on that, but there's, I know nothing about the other planes of Eberron or much about the deity structures of Eberron because it's just never come up with my characters outside of the silver flame. So Anyway, yes, ah you all already know that I am dumb, so please don't hold it against me when I am extra dumb about my own character's backstory.
Team Dynamics and Character Growth
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There are listeners who are ahead of me in the game that I'm running, so ah so it it happens. Sure.
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i love that we have I love that we have listeners who... If you know as much about Eberron as some of our listeners do and still choose to listen to our podcast, it means that we are at least doing something entertaining, if not also somewhat right. So I feel validated by it, which is nice.
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Anyway, Dimitri, he's there for the long haul. From from beginning, and we never shake him. He sees everything, including the bunker and the message therein.
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It didn't seem to me like he was... I don't think he went into the bunker. Yeah, he did. Yeah. He did. Yeah. He came in and saw the whole thing. And that's why we didn't talk about it with each other until after we were on our way home. Right. We all just sit there. That was strange. Yeah. We tried to play it off as though it was also our first experience of that.
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Despite the fact that, you Grubb was able to just run and grab the, like knew what to do, but he's a special raccoon. So maybe he intuited it. Anything else about Dimitri Valk or Mia that you want to share as far as Valk's side of things or...
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Not really. i mean, there wasn't there wasn't too much that Valk was able to do here, probably because he was on a semi-leash on the forge.
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The moment he locked eyes with the the Abyss, Dimitri straight up just pulled out his weapon. Yes. So... I mean, I feel like that's just kind of the theme for Valk. But there is also, we found the wedding gift.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The bone altar to Minara. home The hive mind. Book that Valk still has not shared. sheer Yeah, Nick's got to speak her piece about Dimitri and it was helpful to the other characters to hear.
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Like, I feel like it is a neither Selina, I can't speak for, I won't speak for Val cause you're here. Neither Selina nor Kaz has had an opportunity to see a external downside of their exposure to the other planes. Like obviously Kaz's life has been thrown into turmoil, but he's not been threatened by other people about it much yet.
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Whereas Nick's clearly has.
Valk's Connection to Zoriat
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yeah So I think it was important that, at least for Kaz, I think Selena to hear that side of it, to put some context to it.
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So that was good. Yeah, no i that was, i I liked, as much as my character obviously hates Dimitri, I really liked him just as a narrative device, if nothing else, because we got tol learn a little bit more about valk We got to learn a lot more about Kaz's background and the conflict about Dimitri provided an opportunity to remove a couple of bricks out of the walls that Nix has built up as, as Val put it. And so, you know, as, as much as most of our characters by the end found him to be deeply irritating, he was a good, it was a very useful narrative device for, for getting to share some character stuff.
00:09:35
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Good job, Eric. Yeah. What do we call that accent he used? I don't know. what where where would you place that Where would you put that accent in in in our world?
00:09:46
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It kept changing. i yeah It was like French and then like Eastern European. Yeah, it kind of moved towards Germany. and yeah It was certainly pan-European. I'm glad we got that because we were being really nice about his character. So I'm glad we stuck that jab in there about the accent.
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um i The next two things in my notes are just hot bug lady and Zoriat forge. So if... Me, if you want to talk... This was... I mean, this was the Zoriat or a Zoriat arc and Valk's planar attachment is to Zoriat.
00:10:23
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It seemed... How do I say this? Is the draw that we saw Valk show towards Zoriat a conscious one? How is that played? you know what I mean?
00:10:36
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like I think it's 50-50. i think they're I think at this point, especially with how long it's been, I think it's been... um I haven't put like a specific time to it, but at least it's been...
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Well over ah probably like three years um since his like full time in Zoriat. Mm-hmm. to where Valk is that there is something is drawing him and he's not fully sure what to do about it. he's just kind of been ignoring it. But I think now with other circumstances with his past life, that has also intentionally kept him away from it.
00:11:19
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yeah um But now being on his own, and he's kind of like, i I can make my own decision. So I want to look at that and it's unfortunately not a good place, but it's, I've been playing it as pure curiosity and almost a bit of like playing with something that's taboo.
00:11:40
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Sure. Like I know something bad can and will happen. That's the more likely option with the, with the possibilities, but. Whenever Valkoi says like, I'm not fully here.
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think that's kind of like the, i'm I'm literally not fully here. There is something that's still pulling me there. So. How long was Valk in Tori at?
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Is that a known quantity? Technically, the ah the longer you are exposed to Zoriat, as physically in that plane, you begin to lose your mind.
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So we don't really know.
Humor and Character Interests
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I haven't put a time to it. Okay. But it is it was enough to cause brain damage, but not enough for him to completely forget what happened. So that's the...
00:12:39
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in the part where he he always says it so passively. was just like, yeah, I have like brain damage. Or like, yeah, it I don't really remember what happened with that. Or I'm not allowed to remember. and I think that's the part that I i i like to point to is that there is there's probably something that is saying, no, we can't let you remember this because your mental state is too delicate and we still need you. Right.
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Before you're completely lost. your Your other faculties need to stay this order. Very bold. hot bug lady. I don't know. yeah always ask that question. That's my, that's my, that is Mia's personal priority. Because if I ever get to doodling, that means i i can, I can make a hot bug lady.
00:13:21
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Can't wait. And then the forge was always A curiosity. tea That one was that moment was honestly decided on the reactions of the group.
00:13:35
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I think if no one was going to pay attention to Valk because Valk is often in the background. Valk would have would absolutely have gone hand first and then head first.
00:13:46
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Okay. But was stopped. So we don't know what happens in there. ah If you think Eric's not going to give Valk another chance to get sucked into
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I liked having Valk around because I think Valk functions as a as a different reflection of the same problem that Nyx has in that there's a little bit of a, yeah, obviously this plane is bad for me in some way, but it's awfully cool.
Team Cohesion Through Adventures
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this There's a little bit of addict behavior think what that to draw out. In that vein, I liked that it was Nyx who was the most personally active in keeping Valk safe and tethered during this arc.
00:14:36
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I think that that those actions, as well as a communal...
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We've had plenty of enemies, but we haven't had a, this guy yet, like Dimitri. And i think I think those two things together, both the Nix and Valk
00:14:55
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dynamic, and the having Dimitri there, did a lot to solidify us as a group. I think this was the arc where we kind of really came together, i think symbolized, and we'll talk about it in a minute, by the gifts that Valk got for everybody as well.
00:15:11
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We went from being the people who work at the lighthouse to like the lighthouse. I feel like during this arc, which was nice. I will say, speaking of doodles to speak reductively of them.
00:15:22
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This is a chance to say out loud on a recording, Mia, your character drawings are stellar. And now that they've been shared, we can, we can talk about them. If you are it in the, if you have been listening and you are into the discord and you just want visuals for our characters, uh, Mia has drawn the four of us and they look stellar.
00:15:43
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I just love the costumes. I think i think the the outfits on all the characters are just are just so so rad.
00:15:52
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Particularly Selena's. Particularly Selena's. like the yeah the the bone the bone in the corset like is just that's so it's so cool Yeah,
Lakara's Arrival and Cultural Context
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they're they're great.
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Okay, so we make it back, and among the things that happen at the house, some of the bigger ones are a dragonborn appears.
00:16:16
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and but ah From one of our trees. Walks out of a tree, right? Yeah. yeah I was going to say I might be conflating other things, but I believe she popped out of a tree. Yes.
00:16:28
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And we see that Arumi is on the job. Like really on it. Like, yeah, just like I popped out of a tree and then a roomie just comes out of nowhere and tackles. Like it's so, this is, I've been meaning to say this for a while on an episode because of his temperament. When I picture a roomie, it's very similar to Baymax in his, in his armor.
00:16:51
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And if you remember, like not big, not big inflatable Baymax, but once he puts on the armor towards the end of the movie, that's what I picture when I think of a roomie. Um, intimidating and lovable at the same time and anyway confused say what just a little confused a little confused but yeah so her name is la cara and she came from the feywild and or from tholanus i gotta And, uh, right. It's the same thing.
00:17:23
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And we learned that one of the, one of the archfey, one of the high ranking people in Lottis is going around kicking out all visitors and permanent residents and interlopers and other such things. And we,
00:17:39
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We, the players, I don't know where Kaz is on at, honestly, are pretty sure it's because she's mad at Kaz. The great meanness of Eric being that Lakara remembers her time and Kaz is not. And Lakara was there for a much shorter time than Kaz was. ah My, my personal theory is like this Phillips and Nick's hasn't Nick's doesn't have the sort of conspiracy theory mind that that some of my past characters have, but my personal theory is something about the relationship between the lady of stories and Kaz broke some kind of rule. And so somebody is going around kicking all the mortals out.
00:18:20
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Oh, oh, I do like that. I like that lot. There's also just could be issues of time travel. I had thought about the other day. was like you were technically out of place, but also in place in a timeline and the repercussions of that. And yeah, so.
00:18:40
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Yeah. The time of it is very screwy. um I'm leaving that to Eric to reconcile happily, but. Yeah, Lakara does agree. She talks about how she doesn't want to go back and so... to Not Argonessin.
00:18:54
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She's... Yeah, she's from Argonessin. Yeah, she doesn't want to go back to Argonessin and... ah Hendrick and Javier kind of basically say, hey, if you'll let us get your story and kind of figure some things out about what's going on, we'll send you wherever you want to go. And that's the point we are at now. i'm I'm both nervous and excited that in pretty rapid succession, Eric has brought up Argonessin twice from different NPCs.
00:19:18
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<unk> Like, we we met this NPC trying to recruit for Argonessin and then Lakara. So I don't know how that happens, but I'm... um I'm nervous and excited all at once it. Uh-huh.
00:19:32
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And not a random of NPC either, like mod who we remember from campaign one. Yes. That we remember from the future. We remembered and definitely remembered immediately.
00:19:45
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I can't believe that I did and you didn't on that one. I was like, that name is vaguely familiar. But yeah, so that's La Cara. And we have another festival.
00:19:57
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ah Here on the River Piddle, we are constantly celebrating holidays, it seems. And this one is no different, but this one is. We got there two. We got we got a twofer this time because we had the little picnic for Tira's Day and then the big festival.
00:20:14
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um The picnic was just like sort of of a scene. like it didn't it It wasn't a big a big deal, but we yeah, we had ah made a twofer. Mm-hmm. And then the festival was more of a town celebration that we were strongly encouraged to make an appearance at and provide some, just some goodwill. We were to, to do some PR.
00:20:34
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And I think we did a good job. You know, in a lot of ways, in spite of ourselves, I think I agree. Yeah. I'm not sure. Like, I think Nyx came away from that thinking, we definitely made a lot of contacts, but are they actually, is it useful that we made nice with the local jeweler? Like, is that, like, but we certainly did. For me.
00:20:56
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Maybe not for you. Good for me.
00:21:00
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If there's anything I've learned from our times in Kernville and the other ones, I remember Kernville. You got to give me a point for that. Pella's Watch. And Pella's Watch. is This stuff could happen anywhere.
00:21:13
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That's true. And every jeweler's got a cousin. And every karaoke host has has a pin
Heist and Strategic Planning
00:21:22
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pal. And so we never know where we might... You heard it here first. Every karaoke host has a pin pal.
00:21:28
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Stitch it on a pillow. But, and and we, you know, Nick's got to kind of show off her prowess in the ring against him. Oh, gosh.
00:21:39
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Oh, the do the yeah the giant warforged. Right. That launches the town. Who is in our, in my circle now.
00:21:50
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So, I have that one on a different notes app, unfortunately. so i'm not going to be able to look it up. bert I almost said Barasha. Hey, that's not him. I don't have it. I apparently didn't write it down. That's weird. It's fine.
00:22:04
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If Eric really wants it, we can cut in here and give a cutting remark on how we've forgotten his NPC names. And we learned about the town tradition where every year there is longbow on pole and the town bets.
00:22:19
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whether or not it will get stolen. And it's, I mean, that was just what an obvious hook for us to follow. yeah Like Eric knew exactly what he was doing with that one. Cause of course we're going to try to steal this book.
00:22:30
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And it was another time where we really worked together as a team and everyone kind of got, had their hand on the ball. Nick's providing distractions. And, um, actually, when I listened to back to it, i was like, I think they could actually done this without Kaz, but I was happy to be involved.
Team Bonding and Camaraderie
00:22:47
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yeah You were also a decoy. it was a It went from a very integral part of the plan to, as we kept stacking magic, it was like, Gaz doesn't really need to be here, but I'm still going to run out there and grab this thing.
00:22:59
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And it was it was fun. And we had a good... Yeah, that was fun. We chatted with Bimani again. We had a good night in the tavern, buying drinks for everybody, made a little bit of money.
00:23:10
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And again, I think it was a really nice moment of... Look at these people becoming a team, both when the chips are down and in this fun, silly thing that we can do.
Character Development Through Therapy
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What's some other like errata? Nick's moved into the manor. Yep. Yep. the The chapel is obviously haunted and it's just not not wise to be sleeping in the in the balcony if something is going to creep in there every night and mess with the walls.
00:23:43
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yeah Nick's is moving into the house. she's She's running a personal little a against herself contest to see how long she can... not allow that to be discovered.
00:23:55
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right but Boldly moving on to the second floor. That's true, yeah. Pure light. the the floor of light. three of our team had their first sessions with our therapist.
00:24:07
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Yes. Dr. Varesch. Yes. And there was some talk. I don't think any questions came up but there was some talk in the discord just discussion channel about like how surprised they were and how open we were with the therapist.
00:24:23
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And i don't know, maybe that's just my own personal history with therapy, but like, yeah, man, that's what you do with the therapist. But I understand how the characters may it would have made sense for the characters to feel differently but i know jeff just bought it on therapy so went for it like yeah man therapy's great let's do this yeah the way that i looked at it is valk is not unfamiliar with it probably because that was the arcane's congress way of keeping tabs on him was just sending a therapist air quote therapist out every month and they're saying you know they're they're fine
00:25:02
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They're stable. mean We don't have to worry about it. And then yeah go on. yeah I guess if I were to put a thing on it, talking to...
00:25:13
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his coworkers about it feels like he's trying to make something actionable. And o what he has gotten to, sorry, Kaz, what Kaz has gotten to know of his coworkers is they're not going to be helpful in a talk therapy sort of idea.
00:25:31
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So this person who may actually just be able to listen and provide comfort felt pretty promising to him. And without it being like a well, why don't we just go to Rowat and find your parents and get this over with, pull this bandaid off kind of thing.
Character Recruitment and Backstory
00:25:47
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You know what I really want to find out about all of the characters, which I don't even know about Nyx, is actually how we got this job. ah Because we had a little prequel things that were supposed to be, what's the moment where your connection to the plane was revealed, but in none of the three that I was...
00:26:10
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that I played in, and did we actually, actually learn how, how Javier found us and what that recruitment was like. Is true. yeah We have not had a Professor X moment.
00:26:23
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Yeah. I noticed that she asked a lot of people, how did you get, or why are you here? And I was thinking, don't actually know how to answer that. Like in terms of, in terms of, you know, practically, how is it that I came to, that Nyx came to be here?
00:26:37
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Yeah. What were the perks used to recruit us? Or, you know, the other direction, if it was darker than that. Yeah. Okay. Let's go ahead and get into some of the questions we were asked by members of our discord. If you would like to join the discord, you can find links to it on our social pages. We still have a Facebook.
00:26:59
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I believe we still have like a Twitter in the sense that we're sitting on the name, the geek pantheon at the geek pantheon. Sorry, is the name where you can find us, but the links to the discord in the descriptions of this episode, I think it's in the descriptions of the episodes. And also we'll go ahead and and plug the YouTube stuff since I'm talking about it. Cause there is a link to the discord and the geek Pantheon YouTube channel that Eric runs.
00:27:24
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Um, and if you'd like, we, we can, like we'll put your plug at the end. Uh, sure. i like whatever But if you search the Geek Pantheon on YouTube, that's Eric's YouTube channel where he does a lot of D&D and other tabletop role-playing game content. And there's link to the Discord there as well.
00:27:42
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Um, so we would just jump in. These are questions that date as far back as December 15th. It is February 16th as we record this So Laura asks what pets did Kaz
Kaz's Imagined Life and Character Insights
00:27:52
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have? You can't just say he has pets and then not tell us.
00:27:55
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I suppose I said he had pets at some point. Kaz strikes me as and the the family that I have built in my head for Kaz, like maybe one dog that stayed outside.
00:28:07
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And then like something that could be contained birds or, you know, like maybe like I'm going, I'm going Renaissance here. Weren't ferrets like a whole thing in the Renaissance? Probably had a couple, like a status. because They're good. ah They're good mousers.
00:28:21
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Oh, there you go. So probably something like that. I also assume there were, they weren't pets, but there were definitely like silkworms in, in, in Kaz's house because they could be harvested from porfineries.
00:28:37
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And what were their names? Oh, boy. I think you could have skipped that part if you really, I mean, you're in control. but you are right. You didn't have to. But it is it's it's right there in black and white. It says, and what were their names?
00:28:52
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I will get back to you on the names of the pets. The dog's name was probably, I don't know. i don't know. Bosco. That was the dog's name. It's great. Okay.
00:29:03
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Nathan asks if Javier is spelled with a J or an X. I believe it is a J. It's a J. Yep. Yep. Nathan continues. If your characters weren't adventurers, what would they like to be doing with their lives?
00:29:17
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the The word like is important there. ah Yeah. What would they be doing with their lives? Valk is not an adventurer.
00:29:29
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adventures happen to valk yeah he had he had a day job he's on sabbatical like he's he he is a museum like co-director handling the the magical item show procurement which is how he ends up going out and looking for quote-unquote paranormal items trying to get rare vintage antiques off of old ladies who were being haunted by some i don't know little goblin man but yeah he he has a job this is the the part time adventure that was supposed to be a nice vacation that turned out to be another job but yes he's a museum director up north I don't know that
00:30:23
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I don't know that Nixon would know how to answer this question. Like she had a sorta kind of normal life for a pretty brief while. And then some things happened and she ended up in relic and relic or even before that went sideways,
00:30:44
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She was training to be a Paladin like she was training to be a Paladin and go out and protect people and, and you know, be a serve the justice and whatnot.
00:30:56
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So I don't I don't know that Nick sees herself as having any other useful skills. Like, so what would she like to be, what would she be doing? If she wasn't, she'd be a, she'd be a, she'd go back to being an a criminal of some kind. Like she go back to being a smuggler, somebody's bodyguard or something like that.
00:31:16
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But I, I really don't know what Nyx would, would want to do if she had the option to,
00:31:27
Speaker
to not fight for cash. Maybe, Maybe be a blacksmith, maybe make swords. She does love a sword. She does love a sword.
00:31:39
Speaker
ah i I agree with the, what would they like to be doing? Does a lot of work in this? Because, I mean, the the fact is, if Kaz wasn't in the lighthouse, he he would probably be a ward of the Arcane Congress by now because he would not have the cunning or brawn to have protected himself like he has been able to with the people around him.
00:31:58
Speaker
um so But if this question might be extended to, if this had not happened to Kaz generally, what would he like to be doing? And he'd be in school. He would have gone through school and probably be doing... Obviously, he probably would have been drafted into a war.
00:32:15
Speaker
But at this point, maybe old enough to have gone back to making clothes with his dad. Honestly, he'd be in his mid-early 40s at this point. so Or late 30s, pardon me.
00:32:31
Speaker
Okay. Have your characters developed differently than you initially envisioned them? No, but there are opportunities for divergence. I would say mostly, so far, Nyx is still mostly who I thought she was at the beginning.
Unexpected Character Evolution
00:32:49
Speaker
Yeah, she's maybe, she's maybe marginally softer than I, than I initially envisioned her just because it's, it's more fun to be personable occasionally.
00:33:01
Speaker
But no, she's, she's mostly who I thought she would be at the beginning. Kaz is, i am i am i am three for three on my character becoming more outwardly spokesperson-y than I anticipated, especially in in the episode that has just dropped as we're recording this, which would be the second episode in our latest arc, um in the in the cell and with the Tanara and all that stuff.
00:33:30
Speaker
And a little bit in with the zombie town and stuff like Kaz finds himself having to be a voice of reason to the outsiders of the group, which I didn't expect for the 16 year old to be doing.
00:33:42
Speaker
But I think that's part of the eloquent as part of the Faye touched of it all. I think it kind of makes sense. It's hard to say though, because Kaz has gone through about 200 iterations before we even hit record on the first episode. I've been thinking about a Kaz-like character since 2019 or 2020. Yeah, that's a long time. He's been baking for a while.
00:34:04
Speaker
So I've kind of... There's not a lot precious about Kaz to me anymore because he's got through so many reiterations. Um, okay. For this next question, I'm going to see if I can't coax my wife to come and help answer it because it is about Selena. So give me two seconds. Yay.
00:34:21
Speaker
Hello. i'm popping in for one. Okay. We didn't actually read the question. The question is, suppose Selena and Nyx swapped familiars for a week.
00:34:32
Speaker
Who's more frazzled by the end? Ooh. Okay. Frazzled? I would think Nyx would probably be more frazzled. Selina would be more scared. Yeah, that that's probably right. like Or Selina would have become an entirely like evil arch sorceress, depending on how closely she listened to Acheron.
00:34:58
Speaker
Yeah, no, I mean, Grub's going to get into all of Nyx's stuff and disappear with bits of it, like the... Yeah, the uncontrollable nature Grubb, I think, we probably um would probably lead to conflict with Nyx very quickly.
00:35:15
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I could see that for sure. All right, I'm going back to bed. Bye. Good night. Thanks, Madison. We had to do the headphone shuffle. Next question from continuing from hot dog plant.
00:35:28
Speaker
Hot dog plant. I just read that name. Alternatively, suppose Grubb and Acheron have to hang out with Kaz and Valk for a week. Who gets who? Kaz and Acheron have hung out now, just the two of them. And Acheron thought it went really well.
00:35:42
Speaker
Jeff thought it was very fun. I would love to, I would, I would do, I would like to do more scenes of Mia's Kaz and fill up his Acheron. Which one do I think Kaz would choose between the two?
00:35:56
Speaker
and I don't know. Cause he does not like Grubb, which is a question we'll get to later. so what do you think Mia? Which would Valk choose between Acheron and Grubb? Does Acheron have opposable thumbs? No.
00:36:08
Speaker
His, like, claw hands, but not not raccoon. Not like raccoon and Jody, no. Then probably Grubb. Just knowing how Acheron speaks, I think that's too close to home.
00:36:23
Speaker
so Yeah, no, Akron's absolutely going to in encourage and join the voices in Vau's head. Yeah, that's true. Not the voices in Vau's head, the voice that was outside, the the physical Zarya that was that's just not a semi-mean antagonizing lady.
00:36:40
Speaker
Yeah, Akron's absolutely just going to encourage all of the worst worst tendencies of Valk's curiosity. But that could put Valk in an inefficiency flow state.
00:36:53
Speaker
So who knows? yeah That's true. But I mean, in terms of usefulness, probably Grubb can hold the light. It's true. So, and do shadow puppets, which I think he quite enjoyed on the trip. And go get stuff. Like Grub has so often just sort of dropped into shadows and come back with a thing. Yeah.
00:37:11
Speaker
It's real utility guy. I was that. and Thank you. folks Steve asks, what are player theories about the bunker messages and the sovereign origin story?
Lore Speculation and Eberron Connections
00:37:20
Speaker
It seems like we're hearing, like my, the only thing i'm I've got is it seems like we're hearing a story that about like there's in lore there's a a war at the beginning of history between the dragons and the fiends and it feels to me like this is the the eric canon version of that and that we're we're learning that it has a third side
00:37:50
Speaker
that's my That's my theory as to what we're hearing. I don't have any any basis for that other than I think that the overlords are the bad guys in this war, or at least the other side. Yeah.
00:38:02
Speaker
i I don't think I'm breaking new ground to say it sounds like we are hearing the pre-deification of the Sovereign. I mean, which is not, and to say, which is not unheard of. It may even be standard of a lot of the pantheon of Eberron that it was a...
00:38:17
Speaker
a person who became unto a God or, or close to us close to it. So, I mean, that's, that is the, I'll be honest, the extent of thought I have put into it is it's neat that Eric is doing this.
00:38:34
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I never have much to contribute in this area as this is my first exposure to Eberron. So it's not, i I can't theorize on what I'm learning because this is my reality.
00:38:50
Speaker
So don't have the the external context. But I think i'm one I'm wondering whether we will discover the other Sovereigns and the Dark Six will each be attached to a plane.
00:39:03
Speaker
I'm wondering if if that's what will... Cause we've had, we've had Furnia on a tar now. And in something that we, got in something we got out of the library, we had Thelanus being referred to like, it was like, like it was a person.
00:39:19
Speaker
So I'm, I'm wondering if we're going to get a a matchup for each of the, each of the planes with each of the gods. Yeah. Well, then there was also the idea of the Archfey being referred to as Boldray, which would also be like a Thalottis saying. I'm doing it.
00:39:39
Speaker
Okay, Steve has a a further question.
Moral Implications of Timeline Meddling
00:39:43
Speaker
Phillips made it clear that Nyx will not like what the Lighthouse becomes as it grows into the consortium and some episodes talking about large institutions and their dangers. How would the characters feel if they found out today that the Lighthouse will become the timeline meddling org as portrayed in campaign two?
00:40:00
Speaker
Mia, that may be gibberish to you. Yes. Yeah. um In campaign two, we found out that the lighthouse, gosh, this would be spoilers for campaign two, wouldn't it?
00:40:12
Speaker
Some parts of campaign two, we may not be able to go too deep. So I have 30 seconds ahead. Yeah. Skip, skip a bit. If you haven't listened to campaign two and you plan to, it becomes the TVA from the Loki series.
00:40:23
Speaker
Yeah, basically. Or Torchwood. Yeah. A bit.
00:40:28
Speaker
They're not just timeline, but also parallel timeline hopping. Yeah. They meet. There are other Valks out there and other Dexes, just my character from campaign one and such things. so And their function is to ensure that the right things happen in each timeline.
00:40:46
Speaker
I think right now, Kaz would think, well, as long as they're making sure the right things happen, I trust these people to decide what the right things are because he would not put together that that is no one's decision to make.
00:40:58
Speaker
Right. I think initially, I think even if I just switch into like a Valk mindset, that it's pure curiosity, especially if it's approached from like the TVA standpoint, because, but I guess he would, he would probably be more curious about it. I don't think he would fully support it, but I think he would probably try to use it as a resource of his own, not for time, but for planes, which is, i won't further comment.
00:41:28
Speaker
But I i don't i think it has a pretty strong moral compass in the sense of you you have to do good by the people.
00:41:40
Speaker
So if there is more than ample examples... of the opposite happening or that it's just more of like a self-serving or self-justified organization.
00:41:53
Speaker
i don't think that he would like that part, but I almost feel like he would try to stay involved as the person trying to actually do some good or rectify some wrongs.
00:42:05
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:08
Speaker
I think if Kaz thought too deeply about the timey-wimey-ness of it, he might be like, why hasn't future me sent someone back here to get Naomi and take me back to past me so that I can live those years that I missed and just kind of continue my own timeline?
00:42:23
Speaker
ah What are you going to do? Go back and kill past you and take his place? The day after he disappears, Naomi just comes bebopping into into the house. He's like, hey, mom, hey, dad, nothing weird here.
00:42:39
Speaker
haunted by everything he's seen in the last four months and tried to keep his magic under wraps. All right. We have five questions here from someone who's definitely not Mia. I think, I think five is excessive.
00:42:52
Speaker
So we could probably prioritize the other question. i mean someone did This is just speaking for a friend. well several of Several of the remaining questions are for Eric. So if he, he is he said that he would try to throw his answers in to those while he's editing, but I think we'll be okay.
00:43:08
Speaker
to quick fire these five. ah I'll start with answering the
Character Insights Through Memes and Lies
00:43:13
Speaker
first one first. What's a meme that you associate with your character? Mine is definitely the the Andy Dwyer, I don't know what it is, and by this point I'm too afraid to ask. That's 1,000% Kaz.
00:43:23
Speaker
And I wish I could say I thought about that, but I just kind of had that one in the chamber immediately. it's the It's the little girl with the burning house behind her Yes. What a fun question this turned out to be. think for Valk there's two there's one that's like a like an exchange where it's like ask vague questions get vague answers and then there's also one from Scooby-Doo where it's like danger do not open it's like oh man I can't wait to see what's inside of that yeah well so what is a lie your character tells themselves I don't like hurting people You know, I should have prepared for this. i think
00:44:06
Speaker
I think that Vauk is trying to start something new and has started something new, but has unintentionally put himself in the exact same position with the exact same people that he just left.
00:44:25
Speaker
Okay. i think in the vein of a lie he tells himself, Kaz absolutely does not actually believe his parents would not want to hear from him ah after all this time, no matter what. Like, 1000% he knows better in the back of his mind.
00:44:40
Speaker
um But he says that because it's a lot easier than saying, I'm way too scared to go and do this. NotMia continues, how does the way they act seemingly contradict their ability scores?
00:44:52
Speaker
Nyx is very charismatic. um like the the her ah her Her class pings off of charisma. i had the opportunity I had the option to switch it to intelligence, but I didn't didn't think of Nyx as being like the knows everything character.
00:45:09
Speaker
And so I have leaned into it when it comes to like intimidation. And she actually can she actually can deal. like She can negotiate pretty well. So I've leaned into it for those purposes, but
00:45:24
Speaker
she She could be a much more persuasive and personable person by her stats. Yeah, Kaz actually, Kaz's second highest stat is dexterity, and I feel like he has not shown himself to be particularly agile or ah quick or any of those sorts of things. i very I've been very happy to make him kind of clumsy and almost lucky in battle more than then have any sort of facility with it. Yeah.
00:45:50
Speaker
Yeah, I think Valk simpler in the charisma stack because with the racial bonus, his is a 14. he just doesn't speak. So I always thought i thought that was a fun little contradiction.
00:46:07
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Kaz's charisma is super high, but I feel like I'm trying to lean into it now, so it's not quite the right answer. um What is one thing they want each party member to know?
Perceptions of Group Dynamics
00:46:20
Speaker
Ooh, this one's deep. I had this list just in case there weren't any other questions. Oh, so I, I, I went, I went a little heavy. We can, you know what? like it. Maybe we can save that one for when all four of us are here and we can do the, who does your character, the next one down.
00:46:37
Speaker
Cause I also want to think about that one. I've not put enough thought into that one. Who does your character think is the most put together in the party? That one. Kaz absolutely thinks it's Nyx.
00:46:50
Speaker
Valk thinks everyone is a mess. I guess might put themselves in the most put together. But and I think that's fair. Valk is just like this, this, that this is not a good set of ingredients. Something so yeah is going to pop off. Yeah.
00:47:09
Speaker
I think Kaz looks at Nick's and the, both the strength. And then as a 16 year old, who's always scared, just the, I will not take crap from anyone as being put together. And like things very much embodies those things. So I, I think Nick sees Selena and sees someone who, you know what, if all of this closed down tomorrow and freelance vigilante adventuring were outlawed, um, Selena could still get a job and be fine. But,
00:47:39
Speaker
Yeah. with The fact that we all agree that no one answers Kaz means I'm doing the job right. So I'm happy with that. As a child, please. I yeah i think ni's Nix's initial impression of Selena was that she's slumming it with us.
00:47:55
Speaker
That's fair. so She could be somewhere else doing something and she's she's slumming it here until so until another opportunity comes along. I think that's changed a little bit, but I think that was Nix's first impression.
00:48:07
Speaker
Philip, does Nyx have a favorite subgenre of romance
Personal Interests and Preferences
00:48:10
Speaker
novels, i.e. historical or the Everod equivalent of the Hallmark hallmark Channel, etc.? It's certainly not the Hallmark Channel. um there's There's a charm to those, but that's not... I think I specifically said trashy romance novels when when asked, so I think it's like Harlequin paperbacks or whatever the modern... I don't even know if that's still a...
00:48:32
Speaker
still a thing anymore, but I think it's probably like that. I don't think she's, she's gone into the
00:48:41
Speaker
better written genres of, of, of romance. Um, so I, I think that's probably where it is. It's it's junk food. Like that's, that's where it is for. and Sorry. That question was from Emily. i want to make sure I attribute that and Emily continues everyone else. What's your character's favorite genre of book?
00:48:59
Speaker
um and kaz is definitely the graphic novel i think it's probably more of like don't know i guess it would be like current events just placeop happening like not reading the newspaper but definitely like the big highlights of of big adventures and happenings and and what you can find where kind of informational type of books yep Kaz also enjoys whatever the Eberron equivalent of like a Dave Barry book is like, Kaz is down for that.
00:49:31
Speaker
Um, Laura asks if you're this question, if your character was a library, what city would they be in? It requires you to think about so many things that can we ignore the followup statements that that makes this question way harder?
00:49:47
Speaker
yeah, absolutely. not Yeah. Sorry, Laura, not ever on city. I would have to know anything about any of those that aren't like the three. My answer would be Sharn because I understand it. Right. Okay. I actually had an answer without the ah the actual in-game stuff. I i do too.
00:50:03
Speaker
Go for it. my My answer is gonna I'm going to say London because there's like the Royal Arms Museum and the... the the I can't remember. they have what They have just a war museum, and I don't know what it's called, but there's a whole bunch of museums dedicated to weapons and armor in London. And so if if Nick's for a library, it's definitely in London.
00:50:29
Speaker
Valk's Chatham's Library in Manchester. it is the darkest, oldest, dustiest looking, like like dark academia type of building, just dark woods, lines of books. They're all old and you're probably a little too afraid to walk around there by yourself, but I need just see Valk just kind of like pop out from behind it. Oh, how long have you been there? Uh-huh.
00:50:58
Speaker
Yeah. I wish I had... It's the algot frisk of that library. That's funny. I wish I could give an informed answer on this. I i feel like in the vein of the way you answered for Nyx, I believe it is...
00:51:13
Speaker
Cincinnati, Ohio has a a block of like student enrichment kind of things like a science museum and a children's museum and a zoo and some things like that, or not, not, ah not, not the Cincinnati zoo, but like a smaller thing like that.
00:51:30
Speaker
Um, and I feel like Kaz's library of, Somewhat juvenile, but still trying to be useful and substantive might fit in there fairly well.
00:51:41
Speaker
I may be wrong. It may be Cleveland that has that. I'm sure someone closer to that area will know, but I have some friends in Ohio and they've talked about going. So I'm pretty sure it was in Cincinnati. All right. And Darren has a question for Eric that I will let him answer, as does Steve. Ophelia, if you were to run or play a B-plot arc, who would be in it and what would it be about?
Side Stories and B-Plot Opportunities
00:52:08
Speaker
i really want to run I really want a B-plot episode where I play Acheron and Madison plays Grub. That's funny. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think almost all of the Valk's backstory would be considered B-plot. I've made too many like side characters. I'm so sorry, Eric. I've made too many side characters. When we ah when when we start moving up north, this coin it's going to be a mess.
00:52:36
Speaker
um i I was delighted to play Asda, so I'll i'm happily play Asda again. that was That was a very fun NPC to play. Yeah, we I had a good time playing Valk's sidekick as well.
00:52:49
Speaker
I would love and either a prequel or just a, when we're gone, what are Hendrick and Javier? what What's happening back at the man? And everyone.
00:53:04
Speaker
ah yeah Like what's happening at the man we're gone. And i think that we could each take a character and and make that work. It'd be super fun. Yeah, and I guess I'd throw out I binged for little flashbacks of us being recruited. would be fun. Yes, that would be fun.
00:53:22
Speaker
Chris wants to know every character and a player's favorite sandwiches. ah Mine's a good pulled pork sandwich. That's my, my Phillip's favorite sandwich. A good pulled pork sandwich, which is not easy to find in Texas. I don't know for Nick's. I'm not a connoisseur of sandwiches. Yeah, I think...
00:53:43
Speaker
For me, it's like a, it's a chicken cheese steak the goodgan that has to be hot. Hot in the sense that it is, it is heated and then also it actually has to have spice in it.
00:53:55
Speaker
Sure. And I feel like the house would probably enjoy like the dessert sandwiches. yeah where it's like cream and strawberries and like that's not actually food, but you know, it's a sandwich and I've packed five of these. They are all getting crushed in my bag. i find know eat My Jeff's favorite sandwich is either a BLT.
00:54:22
Speaker
I love a BLT with like a good tomato or a chicken salad. I really like a chicken salad sandwich. I think Kaz's is probably a bacon, egg and cheese.
00:54:34
Speaker
Something kind of comforting, but a little decadent also. And also, I i' love bacon, egg, and cheese. Bacon, egg, and cheese is a great sandwich. I was going to say like ah like a melt, like a hot ham and cheese kind of thing, but I think bacon, egg, and cheese is better.
00:54:49
Speaker
Given the chance, Chris continues, given the chance, would any of the party attend the
Entertainment Preferences and Humor
00:54:54
Speaker
theater? And if so, what would be their favorite kind of production? Yes. Vauxhall... thing that has been developing has been kind of around the arts, ah being the museum director. Actually, one of his closest compatriots is...
00:55:11
Speaker
running, like, and not running, she's not running it. It's like like a cabaret kind of reforms. So we have a lot of theater and showcases partnerships there. What would be their favorite kind of production? That part, I don't know. That's Mia's ignorance of having a very hostile relationship with theater kids. So I mean a don't know. but And yet here you are, surrounded by them.
00:55:38
Speaker
was Yeah, there it is. Like, I was asked to be here. i'll be And we appreciate you being here. We're good theater. I wasn't going to ah please nicks Nix would attend the theater. She doesn't have any opposition to theater.
00:55:59
Speaker
Favorite kind of production? i like i don't know.
00:56:08
Speaker
I can't decide if it's like lean into her overt personality and and say it's, you know, she'd enjoy plays based on productions based on on history. And, you know, she's her her favorite Shakespeare is obviously Henry V or something like that.
00:56:25
Speaker
Or if it's like against type and she just really digs slapstick comedy. I'm not sure. Yes, Kaz would go with someone else to the theater. Kaz would accept an invitation to the theater.
00:56:36
Speaker
My first thought was slapstick comedy. like My first thought was you know Eric and I did a play a little over year and a half ago called The Play That Goes Wrong. That's such a good play. a full It's a farce to the highest order.
00:56:48
Speaker
and But I think anyone would enjoy that that you know yeah didn't hate themselves. I think Kaz would love to go to the theater and have his hackles raised a little bit. Something like Shining City or Woman in Black or...
00:57:02
Speaker
I just read a play called 222. Something kind of that's actually kind of scary live I think would be what Kaz would enjoy. Because it'd be a chance to get scared and know it's still safe. Also. i have a revision.
00:57:14
Speaker
but do you remember one play with a strong question mark? It would probably be more of like operas because I think my my favorite one that I constantly rewatched was like an illegal recording of Carmen. Okay. So i love that one.
00:57:30
Speaker
Awesome. So now Valk does two. which all has a hot lady in it. So that might be saying things. Our last question. There's one more for Eric from flame, but our last question, Irene wants to know what grub did to get Kaz to dislike him so much.
00:57:48
Speaker
And The meta answer is I thought it would be funny if I got annoyed by my wife's familiar. My character got annoyed wife's character familiar. I think the in-character answer is like, it's just, it's a it's a critter that lives in our house. And that's not a thing that, like, it's not a thing. We have an infestation. Yeah. yeah And I guess also I thought it would be funny as someone who spent a lot of time in Thalata's, the magical talking animal seems like it should be right up his alley. So the idea that it is off-putting to him, I thought would be funny.
00:58:18
Speaker
But moreover, it's just, yeah it's ah it's ah it's an outdoors critter animal that is... In fact, when anybody ever asks me why I don't allow my dogs on the bed, my answer is, I wouldn't let a raccoon on the bed either. That's just not a thing you do.
00:58:30
Speaker
So that's all that's why Kaz doesn't like grub. No real reason other than that. For pure comedy, I would also like to know this is not a call out except that it's a real it's a character from campaign two.
00:58:41
Speaker
Irene accidentally put an M instead of a B and asked what Grum did. yeah That was our initial boss in campaign two. So what did Grum do to Kaz to cause him to dislike him so much? They live it they both live in Brayland.
00:58:56
Speaker
That's true. Gosh, I have to remember things about Grum.
00:59:02
Speaker
No, Grump didn't own the four sails. He just met us in the four sails. And he got in trouble. we We all decided we liked him, but we didn't really know him well yeah before he got it before he got fired. because he Yeah, he got got to caught with his hand in the till, didn't he? And got devoted.
00:59:18
Speaker
To the... Oh, what are they called? The Delvers? Yep. See, i pay attention. Yeah, you do. I don't know what Grum did. Grum probably stiffed my, stiffed my dad on some fineries that he was supposed to pick up for the Borum hard clan. Who knows? Okay. Well, that's the last question. I think we got it. What a fun way to hit.
00:59:39
Speaker
Again, if you would like to ask questions about this hour that we are currently putting out, there'll be an opportunity to do that in the discord.
Community Engagement and Campaign Planning
00:59:45
Speaker
There's also just tons of conversation going on the discord, both about, about this campaign, past campaigns, the campaign Philip will be talking about in just a second.
00:59:54
Speaker
Um, Video games, food conversations, general life stuff. The Discord's a good, fun place to meet some good, fun people, and we'd love to have you there. Philip, why don't you tell them about Blazing Banners?
01:00:05
Speaker
ah Yes, Blazing Banners is another actual play where I'm the GM and Eric's a player. You can find it on Spotify and YouTube under the Tales from the Laughing Tree channel.
01:00:19
Speaker
and I believe that's everything. We'll be back next week to continue our journey in Olath. And until then, I am Jeff. I'm Mia.
01:00:30
Speaker
And I'm Phillip. Goodbye. ah surprise Eric at the end of the episode. As Jeff referenced, I had a scheduling conflict that popped up the last second, so I was not able to join for the actual recording proper. But I did want to take a moment to answer the couple of questions that were directed ah for me specifically.
01:00:48
Speaker
So first up, Darren asked, Eric, it feels like there's a big shift in tone and pacing between the campaigns. Was this something you consciously decided to do or did it happen unconsciously? would love to hear a bit more about your big picture campaign level planning process. Thanks. Thank you for the question, Darren. I definitely wanted this campaign to have more room to breathe.
01:01:10
Speaker
I feel like campaign to once it like hit a running pace, it It never really let up. We had like some brief moments and there would be like fun little shopping sequences, but there wasn't really the opportunity to like see what the characters did in real life when they weren't going, when when there wasn't a threat imminently around the corner.
01:01:37
Speaker
And part of that has to do with the Genesis dice and the fact that you could be just rolling to negotiate a good price when you're just shopping for clothes. And oh no, you rolled a despair and now something's kicking in the door.
01:01:48
Speaker
So for this campaign, I definitely wanted there to be a bit more breathing room, a bit slower in pace from the from a structural standpoint. And the tone i I think it really just comes down to that idea of slowing the pace down, which then gives it a bit different tone because in order to have the pace be slow, the nature of the story has to be a little bit different. It can't be, holy crap, there's something trying to kill us or there's a big world-threatening thing that is looming over us the entire time. You have to structure the campaign to be something where the player characters feel comfortable
01:02:30
Speaker
taking a couple weeks and having that downtime, which was something I wanted. So hope that answered your question. ah Hearing a bit more about my big picture campaign level planning process, this campaign actually, the idea for it came about with just the concept of like men in black in Eberron.
01:02:50
Speaker
but then also the all what will ultimately be revealed through the bunker stories. Those were the two like big picture campaign level things that I had popped in my brain and I started writing out this campaign.
01:03:05
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um So I can't get too much into the detail because that would be spoilers. But i I kind of go from... for for a campaign planning standpoint, I go for the meta, like big, the big things. I don't start with like the smaller things. I kind of start high and work my way down or I start from like a big moment. So for um the a story of campaign two, originally I had it in my brain that spoilers for campaign two potentially. So skip ahead a little bit if you don't want to hear
01:03:42
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um I had in my brain that eventually the party would kill Vigo in a way that forced um basically the Bormar clan and Satan to reluctantly turn on the party.
01:04:00
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It was much more of like that John Wick. um I think Road to Perdition is another example of that, of like the party killed someone from a justifiable point of view, but honor and loyalty dictates that the organization that they belong to turns on them. And so that was kind of the moment that I was hoping to build towards. And then obviously we took a big yeah left turn. in terms of what that looked like. But that was kind of the moment and why I wanted to do a much more like mob style story is because I wanted that kind of cool moment of you're not wrong, but I have to make you pay.
01:04:44
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And Steve has a nitpick that hits close to home. um Eric, this is a nitpick, but it hits close to home literally. When choosing a rust-built city to equate to Eston, why Pittsburgh primarily known for steel? If we want a place that built more finished products like Warforged and airships, I'd pick Detroit or Cleveland. Given that Cleveland has NASA Glenn historically produced airplane parts and was home of standard oil, clearly Cleveland is the better choice. Is this question petty?
01:05:10
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Yes. Am I sorry? No. Honestly, i it just popped into my head as being a blue collar working town. And so I said Pittsburgh because the Steelers. um Yeah. I mean, I fully agree that honestly, because clearly Cleveland in your mind is the best choice. If I had more time to think it I probably would have said Detroit just because Detroit is much more about manufacturing and like building things. So that's a a good call out. But honestly, I was just pulling an idea off the top of my head.
01:05:45
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So those are the answers to, oh, ah Flame at the very end. Eric, have you cooked anything from any of your in-game menus? No. I mean, i think technically like, I think some of my menus have had like roasted chicken and stuff like that.
01:05:59
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Yes. None of the very like i lavish dishes on my menus. I've never cooked any of those, but that's a good thought, a good idea. Maybe I'll try that sometime. to put out a cookbook.
01:06:13
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Anyway, thank you all so much for listening. Hope you enjoyed these answers we'll see you next time.