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Dreaming Big
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Scott Krava, the founder of Dreaming Big, joins the Uncommon Wealth podcast to share his journey of starting and growing his apparel brand. He discusses how he came up with the idea for Dreaming Big and the process of designing his merchandise. Scott emphasizes the importance of taking action and learning from failures along the way. He also talks about the significance of his brand's mascot, the duck, and how it represents his own journey of realizing his dreams. Scott's vision for Dreaming Big is to make it known worldwide and inspire people to pursue their passions.
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Introduction to The Uncommon Wealth Podcast
00:00:00
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Everyone dreams of living an uncommon life and the best asset you have to achieve your dreams is you. Welcome to the Uncommon Wealth Podcast. We're going to introduce you to people who are living uncommonly. We're also going to give you some tools and strategies for building wealth and for pursuing an uncommon path that is uniquely right for you.
Meet Scott Cromwell: An Uncommon Path
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Hello and welcome, everybody, to another episode of The Uncommon Wealth Podcast where I'm your host, Philip Ramsey. And I'm Aaron Kramer. Thanks for tuning in. We appreciate your time. And we have a really awesome guest that Aaron found for us. Tell us about the guest and we'll get him on the show. Scott Cromwell. He graduated with my older brother. He was following him all throughout because, you know, he played D1 football. Kind of a big deal. Yeah. So it's fun to watch him see him throughout the time because he knows that upperclassmen. Then he started a business.
00:00:53
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And I saw that get up and going all off social media. So just following them and did really big things. I mean, I bought the merch. I have it. So like it's really cool to see. And then it's always fun to see a fellow Mustang go off and do good things. Yeah, the uncommon path. So I was like, we got to get him on. Yeah, I've already asked him. He's been married for four months. So newlywed. Super excited to unpack that. But his company is called Dreaming Big. And Scott, welcome to the show, man. Thank you for your time. I appreciate it.
00:01:21
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Thank you guys for having me. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. So as we talked a little bit before, cause Scott and I didn't know each other, uh, Aaron and Scott has. And so we're just talking about like, what is this podcast about? So for all you listeners who are following Scott, cause you fricking love him, I get it. But this podcast is really just to highlight Scott, your uncommon path, how you got to where you're at.
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And we're advisors who actually really like to hear people thriving. And what does that look like? How did you start a business?
Dreaming Big Apparel: Origin and Philosophy
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What challenges? What opportunities? What things do you wish you would have done different? What things were maybe like surprising to you? All this stuff. And so we like to, we love to highlight people's uncommon life. And then we're also financial advisors that will help you create a plan to get you there. Scott didn't need us. That's how awesome Scott is. Okay, so let's start.
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I want to start back when you, cause you said you had a dream and it was started way before you actually launched this thing of dreaming big. And first for our listeners, what is dreaming big? We'll let you have that.
00:02:23
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So Dreaming Big is an apparel brand that I started officially 10 years ago almost. And basically it's a brand that it's similar to you guys. I'm encouraging people to take a step outside of their normal day-to-day lives and pursue what they're passionate about. That's really what it boils down to.
00:02:49
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nothing else is taken away from the brand. That's what I want people to take from it. So yeah, that's basically it. How'd you land on that? And for those listeners who haven't seen it, like you got to see it. Cause there's a duck, we're going to talk about the mascot, if you will. I want to hear how'd you get to that like pinnacle of like, no dreaming big, like I want you to inspire you to become something you've always dreamed you could be.
00:03:12
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Man, I wish there was a great story behind it, and I guess, I don't know, maybe it is. But I started out just designing t-shirts randomly my last semester in college. And I fell in love with it. And I was about to graduate with a sport management major, something totally unrelated to entrepreneurship, to graphic design.
00:03:37
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all of it, running a business. Perfect timing to realize my dream. I'm designing tailgating t-shirts that are Iowa, Iowa State inspired. I quickly realized that I didn't have the firepower to keep pushing those designs out because they have a relatively short shelf life.
00:04:01
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a season, you know, maybe three months to maybe four years if it's, you know, about a player or whatever it may be. So that's when I kind of started to, I took a step back and I thought, you know, I got to come up with something that's going to be more everyday, more everlasting. And I was, I was inspired by streetwear, even though I didn't really know anything about it. And I don't consider myself a overly fashionable person. So, you know, I wasn't, you know,
00:04:29
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I don't want to say I was, I definitely wasn't like built for it. I don't think, um, but you know, I wanted to be somewhere in the streetwear realm, but I wanted to have kind of a positive message, which I thought didn't exist at the time within streetwear.
00:04:45
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And so that's how I landed on Dreaming Big. I was like, all right, yeah, like this is, this is kind of my dream that I realized kind of late relatively in terms of, you know, college and graduation and all that. But, um, that was really it. Um, I, I pretty much settled on it almost instantly. And then I kind of went into designing it, which was what I really wanted to do anyway. You know, it was kind of like, I needed to have a name for it for formality sake, but like, I really just wanted to make stuff.
00:05:14
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Scott, do you think that like, I mean, I'm not like you were much older than I was like in school. So I didn't like know you too well, but like, I know I went through the same system you did. I mean, but like dream big kind of fits, man. Like not too many people from Dawson or grams get to go D one.
00:05:31
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Right. Right. So I mean, like from
Trial, Error, and Evolution in Business
00:05:33
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the heart, like from like your inner side already, like you already, like you dream big to start with. I mean, that's in you, like you, right? Division one athlete, that's not a small thing to do, especially from Dallas intergrimes.
00:05:45
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And I think that probably definitely influenced it in an indirect way that, you know, I can't say like, because I, whatever you want to call it, have that mentality to like get to that level. That that is why I started dreaming big, but I'm sure there's something within there that, that there's a connection between the two. I just don't know what it is. You know, I'm sure it plays into it. Do you know Brandon McNice?
00:06:10
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I do. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, dude. Okay. See all these people. Yeah. Okay. So it's kind of therapeutic. Like you finally get this dreaming big like idea that has to be like, okay, I can run with that because up to this point, it was just Iowa state, Iowa.
00:06:31
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merch, right? And like this dream big is like, wait, I could, this is more evergreen. I can launch this. So how do you get from, okay, wait, now streetwear, this is kind of a different deal. And with a positive message, is there any kind of like due diligence that you had to do or just like, let's just see what happens. And then we got to talk about the duck because the duck is pretty sweet.
00:06:52
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See, that's probably the part where I thought what you want, but I was in hindsight, I was probably pretty naive about all of it. It was like, I literally like had the idea and I was just like, okay, why not? And I didn't love this, you know, the, the, the, a lot of people say, you know, like I, you know, I always have aspirations of doing something like that, but
00:07:13
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Then I started questioning things. I do some research and I don't like what I found. And for me, like I did enough research to figure out like what steps I needed to take to like put it in motion. And I was like, okay, I'm going to go. And.
00:07:29
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That's really how the whole thing's gone for like 10 years. It's just like, okay, trial and error, this worked, this didn't work. Okay, what can I learn from that? How can I do it better? And it's just constantly compounding into what it is and wherever it's going to go. I'd love to say I have a vision for, I mean, I do, I have a bunch of different visions for where I want to take it.
00:07:51
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part of the fun is, you know, just being in it day to day and trying new things and trying to get better. And that's it. Dude, this is a 10 year old question. So like, you're probably not going to remember, but like, what were your first steps that you were like, well, I got to do this. Was it incorporating? Like what? And I didn't do any of that. So like after the fact, I didn't do, I didn't do any of that. I didn't even trademark my logo until like halfway through.
00:08:18
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Okay. Interesting. Is that something you'd like? I told my younger self, do it earlier or did it work out? It worked out. It worked out. And I would recommend it.
00:08:32
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In hindsight, I would go back and do it right away, but I couldn't afford it. When I first started, I was just like, well, I have nothing to lose. If it flops, I don't want to have spent whatever on trademarking the logo. So I was kind of, I don't want to say one foot in, one foot out, but I was being nauseous and optimistic at the same time. Right. That's awesome. So yeah, I didn't actually trademark dream big, the word mark, or the duck. Probably, yeah, it's probably like 2018.
00:09:02
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Wow. All right. I got to hear. So what brought you to the duck? The duck. Man, it's I don't know. It's a I love it. I love it. So this is probably this would have been fourth of July senior year in college. So you can imagine like we take a crew from Iowa State up to Lake Okeboji.
00:09:26
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You already know like what the weekend was all about. So we run a house and in the basement of this house, there's like this wooden duck that the homeowners use to like, it was like a centerpiece on like a table where like they put like magazines in it. So imagine like a box with like a goose neck coming out of it. We took it, we put beers inside of it. You know, we made it like our unofficial mascot for the weekend. And this is like,
00:09:52
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This is 2005, 2006, so Facebook is still in its infancy. And I get the idea. I'm like, oh, this duck needs to have its own Facebook page. And I immediately start adding friends.
00:10:08
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It's not even a duck. It's a goose. But for whatever reason, we call it a duck. I don't know if that's just because that's how much we had to drink or what. But so anyway, as part of all that, you know, we kind of make the duck a mascot. We kind of make it a thing on social media, on Facebook at the time. And I'm like, yeah, the next natural thing is like I got to make a T-shirt. So.
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I take a photo that we took like on a flip phone of this duck like floating in Lake Ocoboji, I tape it to a window and trace it with a Sharpie, scan it into a computer, and that was my first t-shirt design I ever made. And like, in hindsight, that's so...
00:10:49
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Not how you do it. It's awesome. It's a perfect story. But I mean, that's how I realized my dream. So when I came up with the dream and big word mark and the theme and all that, I was like, this needs to have a mascot, mostly because I didn't know what else to do with it. I thought, OK, brands just have mascots. And I thought, OK, what would my mascot be? And I was like, all right, we'll go back to what helped me realize this whole thing.
00:11:14
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the first design that I made of a duck and that fits. That duck helped me realize my dream, so that's what it's going to symbolize for what modern day dream and big is. Yes. Is that what people take from it when they see it? I highly doubt it, but that's okay. People love the duck. I wish I could explain why, but it works.
00:11:38
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That's amazing. That's because when you look at it, everyone thinks something a little different. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's part of it. And I think poetry. Right. What's that? Kind of poetry. Right. Like everyone reads something takes something a little different from it. You know, and that's what I love about it. That's what I love about anything I make is like everyone has a different interpretation of it that's different from what I intended when I created it. And that's perfectly fine. That's 100 percent. OK. Like that is what art is all about. So it works. Yeah.
00:12:07
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Cause I, to be completely honest, when I look at it, all I do, I just get happy feelings when I see it. I have no idea what I feel. I was like, that's cool. I like that. That feeling was, was intentionally a part of the design, but it's not.
00:12:26
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Okay so let's go back so you got this idea and then this is like right out of college so did you have a cash flow or did you have another job or did you just go straight into this thing.
00:12:39
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No, I was, I mean, I had like part-time jobs my second semester of my senior year. I think I was like delivering pizzas and sorting seeds at a field and at Monsanto or whatever. I don't know. Anyway, yeah, I had, I had some part-time jobs. I had an internship lined up because I was a sport management major. Um, I had an internship lined up at Urbandale high school and that their athletic department and like,
00:13:07
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I don't know, like in hindsight, it was like I knew what I was going to be making that summer for the internship money wise and like I was applying for jobs, planning for my future in sports.
00:13:18
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in doing this at the same time. So yeah, like in hindsight, like, I mean, just based on what I've told you about everything so far, a lot of this wasn't planned out the best way. Which you think that that would be like a deterrent for me, but I would say like, that's actually super attractive because there's some people who think they have to have this perfectionist mindset. I have to have everything, all my ducks in a row before I do anything, which is not true.
00:13:46
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In fact, sometimes you just have to start an act and let's see where it takes you, right? And that's kind of where you're at now. You're sitting with a, with a complete amazing company with amazing merch. And then you'd be able to like have apparel that people are uplifted. And sometimes you don't need to know the end goal. Sometimes it can formulate as you go. And so to me, that's kind of a huge beacon to some of our listeners who are sitting on the sideline on their own uncommon journey thinking, huh,
00:14:14
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maybe I don't need to have all this stuff ironed out. Maybe I can just start and see what happens.
Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs
00:14:19
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What's produced out of that. And then you can kind of go, you can kind of work backwards. Like, you know, I'm, I'm actually just now officially like going through and like redefining my mission statement, my, my vision, my, the core values of dreaming big. And it's like, I'm, I'm able to better define those now, having 10 years plus years of experience running it.
00:14:40
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Then had I done it back then, if you would ask me to develop a mission statement, I'd be like, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing in the first place. So like, how can I say like, this is the mission, you know, like it's like, sure. You can come up with something, but like, is that, is it, is it authentic? I don't know. Yeah. Right. I love that. Cause that's so true. I mean, I used to that in our business, like you'll have a mission statement or have a niche is like, well, I just.
00:15:04
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want to do business. I don't know. Like, right. I just want to do it. Yeah. Right. So tell me, how many people do you have working for you at dreaming big? Zero. Just you. Just me and your clean operation over there. I mean, I, I outsourced, you know, some of the production side of things. So, you know, I guess you could say I have employees in that regard, but they're not official employees of dreaming big. So it's not completely a one person operation, but yeah, I mean, okay, right now it's just me.
00:15:33
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OK, so let's talk about this because in the intro, Aaron was like, I've been following you for quite some time. And at some point you're like, I'm going all in. I'm going full time here. So when was that where you're like, I'm just going to fully survive on the basically all the stuff that you have produced from Dreaming Big? It was it was when we moved to Philadelphia. So January of 2019.
00:15:59
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I was, you know, my wife got a job in Philly, you know, girlfriend at the time. She got a job in Philly. We decided that's what we were going to do. And, you know, I was looking around for jobs. You know, my professional background was pretty unique in that I was a sports person, but I was working in education, you know, working in a high school athletic department.
00:16:22
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I had some parks and recreation experience some community education experience but it was when i went to look for jobs in philly i was like man i don't know like there aren't many of what i do now there aren't many of those positions out there and if they are they're hard to they're hard to get into so you know i'm applying around and not really getting a whole lot.
00:16:42
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My passion is graphic design, so I'm starting to apply for jobs in graphic design as well, but I don't have a professional portfolio. I don't have any professional experience. I don't have any education, so that's working against me. Despite how great your stuff looks to someone else, if it does, that's something that can hold you back. So I was just kind of like, I don't know, is the universe telling me something right now? Do I just...
00:17:09
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In hindsight, like I wouldn't have done it that way. I would have done it differently, but you know what? I've, I've, I learned a lot about myself doing it that way. And you know, I'm still here. I'm still going. So, you know, maybe that was the right call. So how's your, like the support you got with your girlfriend through all this? Cause we always like finding business owners, like having somebody next to you throughout the journey makes a big difference. Yeah.
00:17:38
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She's, I mean, she's 100% supportive of all of it. She knows that, you know, this existed before, you know, we started dating and, and she knows it's my baby and she's, she's here to do whatever she can to help. But, you know, a lot of times, um, I kind of just want to do my thing and she respects that as well. And it's, it's good. It's perfect. It's awesome. That's really cool.
00:18:04
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Okay. So let me ask you this. So let's say we have somebody right in the middle of the room. Like let's say we're all in the same room and they are either he or she is like, I don't know if I can do this. Like I got ideas. I got a big dream that I want to pursue. How would you, what would, what would be the council that you would give that person? Just go, just do it.
00:18:24
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That's what I say to everyone. Like I have people that approach me about starting a clothing brand. I'm like, just go like you're, and it's like, yeah, they come back with like, yeah, but I got, I feel like, no, just go, just go.
00:18:36
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It's impossible for you to know everything you need to know to be successful at this juncture. You need to actually get your hands dirty, get some experience, take some shots, figure out. Because the idea that they have, that might not even be truly what they want to do. They just think it is. But in the process of trying to build that,
00:18:56
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five other paths might appear that are more appealing to them that they never would have thought of had they not done the work. So that's where I'm big on just go because you're going to learn so much and you need the experience to do it.
00:19:10
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I'm going to take this in a whole different direction. So hang on ready. I'm going to take a quick 90 degree. What was your parents like? Like, what did they do like for vocation? And like, how do you think that you got this? Cause that's a risk tolerance. So maybe you were brought up in like, I'm going to get like deeper than probably you want to get on this podcast. But like, how did you get that inherent like drive? Because at this point you were just a great football player because we haven't really talked about that yet.
00:19:38
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But you had some kind of drive to be able to go out and create something by yourself, which you've done for quite some time. But was it instilled in you from your parents, grandparents? How do you think you got that? I mean, it had to have been like I can't I can't say definitively what it was, but it had to just been the way that they raised us that
00:20:02
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I don't know. I wish, I wish I, and maybe later in life, I'll be able to draw conclusions on, huh, that like, because my dad said, or, you know, whatever it was, but I, I, I don't know. I think it must just be, they raised us in a way that, I don't know, like, I don't want to say the, like a big theme of the house. Cause like, and it wasn't even like, my parents got divorced when I was like six years old. So,
00:20:30
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And like, that was all, I mean, I was six years old. I don't, I don't remember feeling a certain way about it. Like has, did that impact me? Of course it did. But like, I don't, I don't remember it being like a traumatic event. It was just kind of like, this is going to happen. And this is what's going to, how it's going to be from now on. And it was just kind of like, all right, sounds good. And so maybe that's it. I don't know. Maybe I was just, what have your parents done in their life?
00:20:58
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Oh, my dad's had a number of jobs. He's a he is a bowling machine expert. He goes all around the country and fixes bowling machines. He's worked in and out of bowling alley since he was like
00:21:14
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Since he was a teenager and it's just something like he just knows how they work. He got away from that. You know, he's him and my brother are kind of similar in that like anything with a motor, they just somehow know how it all works and like.
00:21:29
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I didn't get any of that, and maybe I got that, but it's towards design.
Influences and Achieving Goals
00:21:35
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So yeah, my dad's very much blue collar guy. My mom would work her way up in the city of Grimes to eventually become the city administrator, which was a position she held for 20 plus years, but she started out as like
00:21:50
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the secretary of the office and just worked her way up. So, um, you know, in hindsight, I'm sure, you know, I want to say that like seeing her climb that ladder inspired me to do it to inspired me to become the person that I am, but I don't, I don't know. I can't say that. I can't, I think it was just something that I was just like, okay, yeah, my mom's just like doing her thing and she's good at it and she's being rewarded for it. Cool. Who would you say that your mentor is like in your either business or life?
00:22:23
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I don't know. I don't know that I have one to be honest with you. I mean, it's like I, you know, I go to my parents when I need advice on certain things. I got to my wife and I need certain advice on things, friends to an extent, but like, I don't have like a mentor on speed dial that I can go to. And you know, sometimes I feel like that's something that's working against me. It's like, well,
00:22:47
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someone else who has a similar business, you know, they were brought up by X, Y and Z who had all this experience, you know, I don't have that. So am I automatically, you know, destined to not make it as high as them because of that? No. So yeah, I don't know.
00:23:05
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Lonely over there, Scott. Let's go. So I think that's good. I think there's just to speak on that and title loop and then you could definitely jump in here. But I do feel like sometimes like mentorship is the cheat code of life.
00:23:19
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Now that might be able to make your path quicker to get to where you want to go. But there is something, and I kind of been wired this way, like, yeah, somebody can tell me 17 times, but until I do it and screw up, it's like, man, I needed to learn my own way. Right. And so I think there is some truth to that too. But I just think it's interesting, especially when you're trying to do something, you're trying to pave a new path.
00:23:42
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that sometimes it's just nice to have somebody be like, Hey, I just need to talk through this quick. Like, am I in the right direction or am I just completely off my rocker? Right. So now we have chat GPT to do that. So that's true. Maybe not the best way to solve it, but yeah.
00:24:01
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throughout your entire journey, like football sports, growing a business, like what's like, would you say the number one thing is that you take away, you're like, Oh my gosh, like this was like light bulb about myself or big learning moment. Cause you don't get as far as you have without like understanding how you operate and your brain operates. Man. I mean,
00:24:30
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I don't know. I'm trying to think of the best way to put this. I don't think there's anything that's out of the realm of possibility. There have always been things that I've wanted to do and it's like, okay,
00:24:51
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Like football, for example, like I knew I wanted to, I wanted to, I want to play, I want to go in the NFL and starting out like my, my first, my, my childhood dream was I wanted to play in the NBA. Like basketball was my first love. And I always just thought like, you know, throughout, throughout all of it, it was just like, I can do this. I can do this. It's possible. It's possible. Like I can make this happen. And I don't know if there was any like one single experience that gave me that or.
00:25:17
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I don't know. Like you guys are asking great questions and I'm only coming back with vague answers. Um, yeah, I don't, I've, I've always just had this belief that like, I can, I can do it and call it what you want. Naive, call it foolish, call it optimistic. Um, I don't know. I believe it in it. I believe that if you set out to do something that
00:25:43
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If you, if you put in the work and you're willing to lose and to fail and to learn from that and to keep going, you will eventually get to where you want to go. Right. Yeah. So like, did you like to give yourself confidence? Like to me, like this has to give you confidence. Cause like so far listeners, Scott was a kicker at Iowa state. Like you, you played varsity there and you kicked like overcoming that, like making the lineup and doing all that, like,
00:26:10
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just helps like that little sear of every single time you achieve something big or little, just built on top of that confidence of like, Hey, like if you put in the work, like you're gonna, you're gonna be successful in some form. And when you actually do put that work in and you start putting those reps in, like that's empowering. And especially when it's something like, you probably know this from powerlifting. Like when you hit a lift that you didn't think you could beforehand, like,
00:26:37
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Man, that transfers over into your everyday life, and that is a powerful drug. And it's like, wow, this was something I didn't think I could do 10 minutes ago, and then I just did it.
00:26:49
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what else can I do? What else have I been selling myself short on that I need to maybe just give another go at it to see, to get to it, you know? Yeah. So like that, see that's what it's right there. It feels like you've gotten a like a taste of like loving the process, you know?
Growth Mindset and Vision for the Future
00:27:07
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100%. Like you have to. Yeah. And so you, I mean, you've gotten addicted to it to the reward. I mean, which I think all of us entrepreneurs do like, right? Like you work hard and you get the success joint. Oh man, I want more of that.
00:27:19
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Like I don't want to, I don't want to achieve my goal tomorrow. Cause then what I have to figure out a new goal and start over again, but like, and I know I'm being extreme about it, but it's like, I envision myself doing this for the rest of my life. Like we talked about this, I think it was before like.
00:27:38
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you know, when you retire, you do what you love. It's like, I'm already doing what I love. So like, technically, I could say I'm already doing what I would be doing in retirement. So like, what do I need to get to the end point for? Right? Yeah, right. Not now anyway. Like I got a long ways to go. And you're using your businesses like, well, what if I do this and this works? Or what if I do that? Well, that didn't work. Like, okay, that's fine. I would, this would be funny because if you were somebody else, I would ask you this question. Like, Hey, what is your biggest thing that you were like, Oh, I screwed that up.
00:28:07
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But like for you, I'd be, I think what you'd say is like, I don't know. Like I just learned from everything that I made up. Like I screw up a lot, but like I learned from it therefore. So why am I even like next time I screw up, I'm going to learn from it. Right. And it's, it's interesting looking at you. Cause like a kicker to me is kind of a lonely position. Like, Hey, go dance monkey dance kind of thing. And like you either hit the field goal. Everyone loves you or you miss the field goal. Everybody loves you. And you have to learn from it.
00:28:35
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Does that make sense? Like if you're the one who's like going to miss that field goal and you're going to get down on yourself, cause you know, everybody else is kind of frustrated. It ain't your position, not your position. Right. But for you, it's like, well, I need to learn from that. Like I wish I would have hit that, but now that I missed it, maybe I'm even better because I didn't give me it another shot. Right. That seems like your attitude. Am I wrong?
00:28:57
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Yeah. And I wish, I wish I thought of it more that way when I was a kicker, but you know, I guess maybe I just hadn't failed enough at that point yet to, to, to realize that. But yeah, like going back to what you were saying before, like if you asked me like what my biggest failures were or whatever, it's like, there are too many to count. And like, I don't want to say that like, it's okay to lose and fail or whatever. Like that's not what I'm saying at all. But like, you need those lessons to, to learn, you know? So it's, I, you know, I value them in that regard.
00:29:26
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Yeah, I think it is okay to fail. Yeah, like it's okay. Well, I mean, I just saw like a clip of an old interview with Kobe O'Brien, you know, like talking about, you know, you just love to win or lose or hate to lose. Yeah, that was what the reporter was like. Do you just, is it the strive to win? I think I've seen this. Or like the hatred to lose. And he's like, it's neither. Neither. Right. It's like, it's the process. Like, yeah.
00:29:52
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You know, it's like what you have. Like it's the whole, like loving the process, learning from it. And if you constantly learn from something, did you actually lose? I don't think you lost because you got better. Right. You know? Okay. So you said you had a vision. So what's your vision for dreaming big or do you, is that? Yeah. Yeah. Like what's your future? I want it to be known worldwide. There you go. Yes. I like it. Plain and simple. And then what's it's a message that applies to anyone and everybody. And.
00:30:22
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we like, like we've already talked about, you know, like, you know, like you guys said, the basis of this podcast is like, there's, there's no shortage of people who are afraid to pursue their dreams or to do what they really want to do. So like, I feel like the, the wider this message gets and the more people it reaches, the better we are off as a society as a whole. So that's my goal is to make it known worldwide.
00:30:46
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It's good. I feel like you should be our, our uncommon mantra. Uh, so I have to go get something, but, uh, so how does our listeners hear more about you? Hear more about dreaming big, go buy all your apparel. You know, how that, um, I'm on all the social media platforms at dreaming big, D R M N V G. Uh, website is dreaming big.com.
00:31:10
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Or you can just shoot me an email, Scott at DreamingBig.com. I talk to anyone who has a question or wants to reach out. You know, I don't turn anyone away. So I'm I make myself available. But yeah, that's where I'm at. Oh, man. Awesome. Go go and get a stuff. Your hat is like my favorite hat. Nice. And you get a new one because it's really dirty now. But then my sunglasses, dude, I just got you have to know this, like, uh, they're my favorite sunglasses, those wooden ones. Yeah.
00:31:37
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Then my, my wife said, Oh, no. So I gotta, I gotta do, I gotta do the new ones now. It's good. Well, Scott, I appreciate your encouragement and just your passion about just going out and doing something and create something. Cause you've created something that's super important. And I love the message. Um, and I love that we're kind of on the same path of trying to empower people to go out and pursue something that they get excited about because that's where life is. It's not working at Wells Fargo or principal financial group. I'll tell you that right now.
00:32:08
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Anyway, you've been listening to the Uncommon Wealth Podcast. I've been your host, Philip Ramsey. And I'm Aaron Kramer. Until next time, go create something awesome. Yeah. Thanks for listening. Dream big. That's all for this episode brought to you by Uncommon Wealth Partners. Be sure to visit uncommonwealth.com to learn more about our services. Don't miss an episode as we introduce you to inspiring people who are actively pursuing an uncommon life.