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Introduction to Midnight Mass Discussion
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right, ladies and gentlemen, I am back with Gianna. And today we are going to talk about Midnight Mass. Now, couple of things before I let Lady Gianna go on her tirade.
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I like this show. I like this show a lot. And after reading the reviews and some very angry texts from Gianna, although she didn't want to spoil it for me, so they were kind of incoherent in what the fuck she was actually talking about.
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But... Some of the things that y'all are mad about make no sense. Now, this is not the Gianna part of this. When I was reading the reviews today, some of y'all were upset that there was so much religion in the show.
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It's called Midnight Mass.
Critique of Religious Content Reviews
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What? what What do you think they're going to fucking talk about? The show based on, and I'm not even Catholic, the Catholic faith. Like most horror films. Do you know why the Catholic faith is picked most of the time for horror films?
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Because they got these things, the sacrament. They got the the wafer and the blood, the wine and Christ and all that stuff. But when you give that to a dude who likes to write horror films, he goes crazy with that shit.
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That's why the Catholic faith is picked so much. You don't see a lot of Muslim horror movies. Well, probably because they might try to kill you. You don't see a lot of Baptist horror movies. Everybody picks on the Catholics because of those different rituals they got. Some people don't even consider Catholicism Christianity.
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I do. But some people don't, because I've run into these people, and they've been going their long ass tirades saying that
Catholic Faith in Horror Films
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of the religions, catholic Catholicism is a cult. It's no more a cult than anything else.
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I'm Baptist. And i'm I'm not even really a practicing Baptist. I do my own thing. But it's no different than the Catholicism, except Growing up with a bunch of Catholics, it seems to me that y'all should be getting paid because that's a lot of work being a Catholic. All the guilt and shit they put all over y'all.
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I noticed that growing up with a lot of Italian Catholics. Gianna's an Italian Catholic. That's probably why we get along so well. It just amazes me when I'm reading the reviews how angry people got this show.
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They didn't want monologues. Well, you had to expect monologues because the thing you notice about things based on Catholic horror films is monologues. They do
Defense of Religious Monologues
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this all the time. You're going to have the priest up there giving this sermon and talking to the people and giving out moral lessons and all that shit.
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Well, so many people didn't even want to hear that. I'm like, well, why are you watching this show if you know it's based on the Catholic faith? It makes no sense. It's just odd to me. Then there are people who are saying there wasn't enough horror in it, that they only wanted to watch the horror.
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Again, the show is a mix of both. It's a horror series, but it's based on the Catholic faith.
Praise for Mike Flanagan's Work
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So if you didn't want the religion part in it, or I guess you just want referenced, then you should watch something else.
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That Mike Flanagan, the guy who directed this, he's a really good director, and I'm really hoping because he has the rights to the Dark Tower series. based off of what I've seen so far of him, I'm really hoping that he actually is able to make that happen.
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Because I'm looking forward to seeing how he writes that show. Because I like the writing of the show. I thought it was very intelligent. I don't know about Gianna, because again, the incoherent texts that were coming to me were like machine gunfire.
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So I don't know. But I liked it. I'm just saying. So... I'm just a little confused
Personal Dislike for Musical Elements & Religion
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today when I'm going through the IMDB gangsters and seeing all either they really loved it or they hated it.
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And the people who hated it wrote about 10 pages ah about it, why they hated the show. And it's just odd. Now, I will give you this. I don't like musicals, and this show has a ton of singing.
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So at certain point, probably I guess around episode three or four, I just start fast look forward and do the singing. I can't handle it. I don't need the songs and the hymns. Look, I used to go to church when I was a kid because my mom and my grandmother made me go, and they didn't even make me wear the damn suit.
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And I used to sneak out as soon as they dropped me off and just hang out by the sewing machine because I never liked going to organized religion. i don't I don't feel no comfort in it or nothing like that. However, I do like religious history, so that part fascinates me.
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But I just don't need the organized religion part. Some people do. My mom was big on that. She liked the church group and going to that Cracker Barrel and eating all that weird food shit.
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And I'm like, okay, fine. But that isn't me. So to each his own. But I don't. don't need singing in my shows at all. And my mom was big on that because she grew up like that.
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But I don't need it. And I just, I was taken aback by that. That was really the only, I mean, there were some other little criticisms, but that was mainly my biggest one of the entire show.
Disappointment with Vampire Storyline
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Now I'm going to turn it over to the door of hate. We're going to open this up and let Gianna speak. Go ahead. Look, let me explain a little bit, okay? We watched House of Usher.
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Yes. Which may be one of my favorite shows in the last 10 years. Okay. It's getting up there, right? Because as we spoke about in the podcast where we talked about it, the...
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Fate horror is what I'm interested in, right? Like mystical shit or like things happening for satanic reasons, you know, that whole thing, right?
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So I didn't really read anything about this show before I went into it, right? I was like, okay. I knew his other two shows, The Hauntings, I was like, I'm not really into those because it's all ghost story bullshit, but...
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maybe this one will be like house of usher maybe and you know i grew up like you in the catholic church so i have a lot of love hate relationship with it right yeah and i was really interested to see where this went and then about halfway through and i'm gonna just spoil it right off the bat it's motherfucking vampires ah but It's such a cop-out. Like, I just couldn't, I was like, what, this is a horror?
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Oh, goddammit. I was like, no, this is not what I wanted. What the hell'd you think it was? It's a horror film. I know, but like I said, the horror in House of Usher was more what I was hoping for with this show as well, was some kind of mystical, unexplainable type horror, you know?
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Whereas what we got was a monster movie. And I was just like, goddammit. because overall it's a really good show like i like the build-up i like you i like the monologues i like the backstories i like the slow burn of the characters but it just made me really pissed off when it was a vampire i was just like really this is odd because i did not know it was the vampires that pissed you off i thought that's what it was to the blood No, it's the vampires. I'm pissed off that it's a monster show instead of a, like more, ah what did you call it?
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Oh, cosmic horror. Cosmic horror. Yeah. I wanted cosmic horror and I got monster movie. That's where I was pissed off. See, as we've been doing this show, what Gianna has found out is that she kind of does like science fiction, but it's particular brand of science fiction.
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It's what's known as cosmic horror. And cosmic horror is like something comes into existence and there's no real good or bad to
Cosmic Horror vs. Traditional Horror
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it. It just comes into existence and it causes havoc.
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when it enters our existence. And some people like that, like me. And a lot of people don't like it because they're used to, well, there's the threat. Let's get a whole bunch of Captain Americas together, fight it and beat it and win the day.
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To me, that's boring as hell. But a lot of people, that's why Disney made so much money. A lot of people like that hero journey trope that is so big right now. And they want to see the good guys triumph over the evil guys.
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And they don't want any of their favorite characters dying either. But they want that to happen. And so they can go home and eat spaghetti and be happy. Yeah. But then there's other side of this where people like me and Gianna, we like chaos to reign and there's no sense of how to fight it.
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You can try to fight it, but that doesn't mean you're gonna win. And it probably means everybody you know is going to die. But it's more interesting because it's not the traditional trope of good versus evil. That's what annoys Gianna, that part.
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She doesn't want it to be the force of evil doing this. And although technically this vampire thing, I don't even know if he was evil. And he I sure as hell don't think he was what these people think he was.
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He was basically a parasite, is essentially what he was. To her, that's a lot more interesting. And to me, it is too. However, cosmic horror only appeals to a certain amount of people, which is why you don't see a lot of it done, because it's hard to do properly.
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And it's hard to show the manifestation of what the horror is. Like this is an H.P. Lovecraft trope. He's kind of the one who made it popular. He didn't invent it, but he's the one who made it popular, although he wasn't gaining from it financially during his life because he died absolutely poor.
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He was the kind of person who says, you can't even see the horror. If you look at the horror, you will go insane, which is something Stephen King does with the deadlights. It's where it comes from, the clown that Gianna refuses to acknowledge.
Generational Differences in Storytelling Preferences
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at the deadlights, you go insane. And that comes from what H.P. Lovecraft says, that there are things in the universe that are so horrible that you cannot look at them.
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You can't describe them. and But there's no way to really fight them. You have to just live through whatever torments they give to you. And that's kind of how Fall of the House of Usher was. People were just trying to survive.
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Most of them don't. Another criticism I read in the reviews was, especially from American viewers, They didn't like the fact that all their favorite characters died at the end and stuff like that. And I'm like, what?
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Can we please grow up? Are we still 10 years old? What is wrong with you people? du First of all, none of these people truly exist. So get over that. You know, you don't have to have the same stories you had when you were 10.
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You really don't. A lot of y'all are Gen X. I'm Gen X. unfortunately, Gianna's a millennial and there's no cure for that, but I accept her how she is. I don't care. I accept her with her flaws, but you Gen Xers are ridiculous.
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A lot of y'all are overgrown babies, men and women, and y'all need to grow the fuck up a little bit. This is a fictional story and not all fictional stories have to end with Captain America showing up with his shield and surviving with the Avengers.
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That's all I got to say about it. But I do think Gianna's a little wrong about the vampire. i can't believe that the whole show is ruined because she didn't know there was a vampire in the show. Look, the show overall was fine, and I finished it, and I thought they did a good job with it, but...
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I just, that initial figuring out of what the whole premise was, like, just made me so mad. Oh my God. That's why I was texting you, because I was like, it's it's a vampire. This is what we're doing.
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We're doing vampires. But what did you think the horror
Gianna's Disappointment with Narrative Focus
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was going to be? I don't wanted it to surprise me. I wanted it to not be a typical trope. Like I said, that's why I liked House of Usher so much is because it was a it was a very cosmic horror. Like there wasn't a cool explanation. I mean, there wasn't a like solid explanation. It was just this being that exists in all time and space fucking with people.
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And the being never explains herself. Yeah. And that to me is way more interesting than a vampire. so I was hoping we would get into some kind of religious philosophy stuff that was explained differently than like some of the normal horror tropes, you know?
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Well, I told you. But still overall i thought... It was a great show with great characters and his usual cast of actors, which are all great. Yeah, yeah. You know, so there's some great performances.
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Yeah. Like I said, I liked the monologues. I enjoyed some of these really deep dives into faith and what happens to us when we die. yeah Right. That's kind of what they talk about. And it's such an interesting concept.
Mike Flanagan's Directorial Evolution
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to explore and like you said though it's funny that i didn't read the i don't usually read the imdb gangster reviews so to hear people are bitching about the religious themes it is so stupid because yes what did you think this was about thank you well it was ah it was a group gathering at a cafeteria they're gonna talk about what poker what midnight mass it's just don't i don't know what they were thinking it's just odd to me but i think i liked house of usher better Yeah.
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But he was basically building his skills up to get to House of Usher. Yeah. As far as the dialogue stuff goes, because I don't think he could have done House of Usher first. I think this was the progression.
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Yeah. On a couple episodes, he had a couple other people with him, but essentially this is Mike Flanagan's brainchild. This is what he came up with. And he is a Catholic, so you know he he's not saying he's the authority on it. He just said, I know Catholicism.
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And he must know it very well. And I'm going to put my spin on this as a horror film. And again, that's the reason it's always picked on, is Catholicism. This one doesn't have source material, right? Because the both the haunting shows he did, he worked off of a source material. No, this is him. He created but this. this all him. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. So. And like the same thing, House of Usher, it was sort of like he used the works of Poe, but he did his own... spin on it. right So I think you're right. Like he had to kind of, I feel like there was a progression of him directing two horror shows but based on a source material and then finally like venturing off into a more original, because Gerald's game too is is Stephen King, right? So it was all him adapting into film.
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So he was also that, uh, haunting of Hill
Flanagan's Move to Amazon and Future Projects
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house. And there's another one haunting of blood house, right? yeah black manner Yeah. There's supposed to be a third one, but he'd left Netflix. So he was going to do, there's a book called hell house.
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And he was going to turn that into his third part of that trilogy. And then that's when he, he and Netflix decided to split ways. Oh, okay. He went over to Amazon cause he really wants to try to make the dark tower series.
Stephen King's Influence on Flanagan
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But this felt like a Stephen King story to me. It does. Yeah, for sure. The small town and everybody's turning on each other and all and all the religion stuff going up.
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It actually, the religious lady. We'll get into her character. Yeah. yeah So there was like parallels. And I think that's what he was kind of based on because he's a super Stephen King fan. He loves the man, except Stephen King had nothing to do with this.
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Go ahead. I was gonna say to you too, that actress you probably hated the most in both of the shows, right? She played your least favorite person on the House of Usher too. so That really speaks to her skill though.
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Oh man, dude, her character, and well like I said, we'll get into it, but her in this show, Like you just hate her. You just like she's crazy, you know, like and she shows that that whole mentality of like people getting so caught up in the religious fervor. Right. That's what's happened. That what that is is exactly what happens to her. She starts to like disregard reality yeah because she's so believing in God. And then at the end, it just kicks her in the ass. Well, because she believes that she's got chosen by God.
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Yeah. you know, over everyone else. Although I'm pretty sure God hadn't said shit to her, but she believes she is chosen by God to do what yeah the the Lord's work in his name. So her name's Samantha Sloan or Sloan.
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And she plays Bev Keen in this one. And the woman's, I mean, she's awesome. I've only seen her in these two things. Maybe Gianna's seen her before, but I've only seen her in the Michael Flanagan stuff.
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But he does like to use a lot of the same actors because then he knows how to write for them. That's kind of why I do that too. The more you work with someone, you know how to write towards their strengths. They'll give you their best performance. They just need the the best material you can give them And when the two work, they work very well.
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And that's what happens here.
Character Development of Riley Flynn
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Clint Eastwood does this too, but he don't write nothing. But he likes to use the same actors over and over again and then get the best writers. So that's how he gets around that. jump into the first episode basically our main character we're introduced to is riley flynn who's played by zach gilford who i really like he was in house of usher as well he was in friday night lights he's i think he's always been a great actor this opening is pretty rough and i think i texted you about it because it's pretty gruesome yeah but basically the opening of the series is riley is this hot shot this supposed to be new york i mean i guess they really don't
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They are in New York. They do. so They're in New York, right. But they're on, they're like upstate New York. Yeah. Yeah. But he gets into a drunk driving car crash and he kills ah young, like college age girl.
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It goes right through the windshield and it's a gruesome scene. I was texting Sean about it because i was like, this is, if this is how the whole series is going to be, this is going to be rough. Because it's like really, know, they really make you feel it. Like this girl that he killed and, you know, and obviously, and even the cop says it to him, like it's, you know, that it's always the drunk assholes that get away scot-free. Yep.
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And he ends up getting sentenced to four years in prison? Yeah, he gets a four to ten sentence and he only serves four of it. Yeah, but they do a lot of like the way they film this I love because it's haunting. You see how he's haunted like it comes through. Yeah, because he keeps seeing this dead girl like with glass in her face and like the police strobes reflecting off of her face and it's it's It's a lot.
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it's It was hard for me to watch. I i couldn't watch it all the time. I had to close my eyes a couple times. Every time he tries to go to sleep, the girl appears. And she doesn't say nothing. She just stares at him.
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And you're in a prison cell. yeah ah You know? It's not like you can't leave the room or anything. You had to sit there and look back at her until you fall asleep. it It would be hard for me to do it every single night lists looking at that.
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But this was probably like, what, the first 10 or so minutes of the show? Like, it was pretty intense. Like, I feel like like a way to set the beginning of this whole series. Mm-hmm. And then, so from there he gets out in four years and he decides to go home to this place called Crockett Island, which is ah super tiny island community where the residents are all very religious, as we mentioned earlier.
Riley's Return to Crockett Island
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and it's also kind of a, it was a fishing village that we find out later has had some issues due to like an oil spill and just several other things that have kind of taken their toll on this not really being a vibrant community anymore.
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So Riley gets home and we see his mom, Annie, his brother, Warren, and his father, Ed. His mom and brother are happy to have him back, but his dad definitely disapproves of what his son has become right in the big city.
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We also see, so he gets to know, there's also Aaron, who's a woman on the island who's recently pregnant, and we find out that she and Riley kind of have a history together as well.
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Riley comes back, a mysterious man with a giant trunk who comes on the
Introduction of Mysterious Man
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ferry. like so it's a I forgot to mention that, there's only two ferries that come from the mainland every day. And when Riley comes back, Bev are, she's a nun, is that what you, like what is she really? oh with Bev?
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Yeah. Remember when Riley comes back, she goes to the boat and asks if the father came back on that boat, right? I don't know if she'd technically be a nun though. She's more of an assistant. I mean, I don't think there's like a rank for her, but yeah I don't think she's a nun.
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okay Now she acts like some nuns that some of my friends used to tell me about all the time, you know, except they used to get hit. i don't know if you can do it today, but the nuns back in the day used to physically hit you. If you disrespected them or got out alive today, I don't think you could do it, but back then you could.
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Yeah. We also get a scene where like the mom's talking to Riley and she wants her to go to church and he's just um absolutely not into it. but So he's kind of the returned atheist, right? Like, I think like kind of how you and I would be if we went back to a church community and we're just like, yeah, no, I'll pass. Thank you. I'm just here for the food.
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Just driving through. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. But we do, like I said, we do get a little bit of, i guess I should have taken this as a hint because the man that comes back with the trunk, he does knock on it and something knocks back on the
Beverly Keene's Devoutness
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inside. And maybe that's when I should have been tipped off that there was a stupid vampire inside.
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It doesn't necessarily mean it's a vampire. Like I said, we saw a scene where bev Beverly Keene is her name and she's super devout. She runs the church on the island. And like I said, she was very surprised when Monsignor Pruitt is the guy's name.
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Yeah. it' supposed to be back after a so ah sabbatical. Is that what you call it? Like ah just a trip to Israel? Yeah. He was on a swim. Pilgrimage. Is that what they call it? Pilgrimage. Yeah, basically. And then to see the wailing. They show him later in the wailing wall.
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And then. Yeah. Yeah. But he's basically on there for a pilgrimage. kind of And Pruitt was in his 80s and basically senile. They talk about how he would wander around by himself, disoriented.
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Riley refuses, or not refuses, but says he doesn't want to go to church. The the dad kind of gives him shit too and says it should be a condition of his parole. Yep. They mention also that he has to go to mandatory AA meetings once a week on the mainland.
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like i said we meet some of the other residents there's the mayor and his wife and their daughter lisa who has to use a wheelchair yeah and there's a town physician who's played by annabeth gish who i love too she's oh there's a great cast and she has a mom uh that suffers from dementia
Father Paul's Influence and Mysterious Events
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we've got the town drunk who i guess this was the actor that played the husband ah Bill on Usher, but I didn't recognize him until I actually.
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i didn't recognize him until i looked him up. Yeah. Very different. Yeah. And we also see that they have a sheriff who's a Muslim, so he gets a lot of shit throughout. One thing Yeah.
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I am now a Henry Thomas fan. I didn't care about him in E.T. even though I saw it when I was like 10. Oh, yeah. But I like him in House of Usher, and I like him in this.
00:23:27
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This guy's a very good actor. I don't know what happened to him over the last 40 years. Maybe he's just been able to, he was typecast a lot when he was growing up. I don't know. But he should be a bigger star than he is. Because I don't even think he considers himself a star.
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He considers himself character actor, but he should be a star. Yeah. He's a damn good actor. If Paul Giamatti could be a star, this guy should be a star. Yeah, I mean, he puts on two really incredible performances.
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Yeah. So, yeah, I definitely think he should have a bigger career, for sure. so back to So, yeah, we get the law um the sheriff, who's the only law person on the island, right, that we see.
00:24:05
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Yeah, didn't see any other ones. And his son, who are both Muslims, like I said, they get a lot of shit, especially from our friend Bev, about not being Catholics. Aaron is...
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the name of the girl that Riley had dated when they were teenagers. I think she's considered the bad girl of the town though. Yeah, because it says she kind of ran away, right? We find out later She's the rebellious one. And she's returned home pregnant.
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Not that that's a big deal. I mean, I get that a Catholic town, that's a big fucking deal, right? But like, I just feel it like they give her a lot more shit than- um But that's a real small town though. Yeah. so it's it's magnified in a small, small town.
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Yeah. We also see, I think it's the first night that, uh, he gets home. The t a couple of the teenagers take a boat out to like some kind an island. Yeah.
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And we see that there's a bunch of cats that wander around and this is like kind of the first little bit of horror too, where they kind of get scared by something that like is in the bushes. Right. You just see its eyes, but they're also getting high. So the end drunk, right? So they just kind of like wave it off as a, as not being something.
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That's why drugs are bad.
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Even gummies for you gummy fans out there. and Okay. So like saying earlier, we learned that Crocodile Island was hit by the oil spill. And so I think the mom starts talking about it right. And that she says that a lot of people have left and the community isn't really a community anymore.
Suspicion over Father Paul's Motives
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Yeah, she said there used to be, what, hundreds, and now there's dozens of people there. that yeah That's it. I guess since the oil spill, you know work slowed down too. So yeah they they everybody's got to survive, so the people who just didn't want to leave, they stayed.
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The population has shrunk since that oil spill happened. But they did get a settlement, though. Yeah. But she mentions that a lot of people sold or just left. or like It's just not, like it's dying. The town is dying, right? Yeah.
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So then we see that the all of the parishioners gather for mass in this tiny little church on the island and a young priest comes in, or younger, I should say, not the not the senile old father that was supposed to come back.
00:26:16
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And it's the same man we saw earlier with the trunk. Father Paul. Father Paul is who he introduces himself as, yeah. He claims that Monsignor Pruitt fell ill and had to be hospitalized so that they sent him instead to take over as a temporary solution.
00:26:33
Speaker
Which is, I guess, believable, right? At first... When the pedophile stuff pops up, they switch him out. That's true. You're right. Yeah. They get rid of the guy who committed it and they they replace him with somebody else. They do it real quick too.
00:26:46
Speaker
That comes from the top and they ship him right on out of there. Bev is all over him right away because she visits him in the quarters and calls him out for wearing the wrong color robe. as She would know.
00:26:57
Speaker
For the ceremony? Yeah, because she's ah crazy Catholic. Yeah. And he claims that he couldn't find the, i think it was a green one he was supposed to be wearing. Yeah, it's green. Couldn't find the green one.
00:27:08
Speaker
And you could just tell it's a weird, something's weird about this dude, right? Yep. but We see a storm roll in and Father Paul is in his, it's like the priest
Hints of Dark Secrets in Religious Setting
00:27:21
Speaker
quarters, right? Like they, I think that's how it works is like when you're the priest for a town, you get like your own little house in a lot of these places.
00:27:27
Speaker
So there's the church and then there's behind the church, they always put a little house behind the church and that's for the the priest. And I don't know if this is a thing around the world just to make it easier for the priest to get to the church.
00:27:41
Speaker
But a lot of ah books I've read that wherever the priest is, it's always close to where the church is. So that's and I also noticed between the church and the house, there was about seven or eight cemetery plots sitting there, too.
00:27:53
Speaker
mean, it wouldn't bother me because I like quiet when I'm home. So dead people don't make noise. yeah Well, unless it's Walking Dead type shit. Basically, his house is about 50 feet from the church. yeah And then the rec center is also right next to this. So it's like a triangle kind of thing.
00:28:09
Speaker
So we see this big storm start to come in. And as it's happening, Riley swears that he sees someone on the beach and he thinks that it's the Monsignor. He runs out to try and find him, but there's no one there.
00:28:22
Speaker
you but I guess you sorry I should say there's a lightning flash and you see ah figure look back at Riley yeah but run away. The next morning after the storm's gone through, there's like seagulls going crazy on
Mysterious Occurrences on Crockett Island
00:28:34
Speaker
the beach. So the Flynn family goes over and there's all the dead cats along the shore.
00:28:39
Speaker
There was a comment I read on the reviews of the first episode, and he said that the guy who wrote this show has a lot of animal hate towards animals. And I'm like, they're not real.
00:28:51
Speaker
i knowt i No cats were killed in the making of this stupid series. So what are you upset about? It's so odd to me. but was say, though, so, like, that's, like, the basic recap.
Character Development on the Island
00:29:02
Speaker
So, like, not a ton happens in this first episode, but what I like is they do a lot of character development, right? Like, we see how much hatred is towards the sheriff because he's different, right?
00:29:12
Speaker
We see Aaron has her baby that's, like, saves, it's, like, a life-saving thing to her, right? Something has happened to her that this baby has saved her. We see the drunk dude who's always drunk and interacting with people. We see how Bev hates the drunk guy, right? Like, you get a lot of insight into character building, I think, in this episode, which is something you and I- And Riley.
00:29:34
Speaker
Oh, and Riley, obviously, yeah. You get the most with him being obviously full of guilt and, you know, regrets what happened, but also is struggling to figure out what his life means now.
00:29:48
Speaker
I like Annie too, because that's the kind of mom that no matter you come home from school or work, there'll be food on that table for you. I like that. but She really loves her children. She really does. yeah She thinks about it.
00:30:01
Speaker
My mom wasn't to that extent because she had a ah regular job every day, but I did when I go to certain people's homes, I met a lot of mothers like this. They would anticipate when the kids were coming home. So there'd be food right there when they got there.
00:30:13
Speaker
You know, yeah I like that. Yeah, I know. She's like, you're always welcome home no matter how bad of a thing you've done. No matter what you did. Yeah. Even Hitler had a mother. Just saying.
00:30:27
Speaker
But yeah, like definitely, like I said, you and I like this whole character development. That's why the first episode hooked me because it's hard to talk about it because it's i mean it's not allowed to say except for they just really delve into each of these people and give them a little more three-dimensional personality.
00:30:45
Speaker
but that was a knock too in the reviews because they were saying it it's too slow because the second episode is kind of slow too and they were saying it was too slow that nothing was happening we're just getting to know these people that we don't care about that's what they kept saying we don't care about them yeah you're supposed to learn about them yeah it doesn't come in first 10 minutes yeah he's taking the whole episode to get you to know them actually taking probably two episodes to do that Like I said, you and i love these type of shows where it's a slow burn. Yeah. And not not a lot happens, but, you know, and I would think the same with the second episode. My notes are not that extensive. Like, it's it's not a lot happens, but you get a lot of insight into the characters, right? and Yeah. And what's, to me, it makes it more mysterious when they're building slowly like that.
00:31:31
Speaker
These were like an hour piece. Yeah. I don't think there was no 45 minute anything. They were all like about an hour at each one of them or at least an hour. So yeah. But yeah, that's like a lot of the second episode is spent with father Paul giving sermons and trying to win over the people in the town. I think there's a couple of the the scenes you love in this one too, where everybody's singing.
00:31:56
Speaker
There's a lot of singing in this show. Yeah. I didn't realize how much it was going to be till I got deeper into the show. So we see also that the father Paul, once he realizes that Riley has to travel to the mainland, he offers up to do an A meeting just for, basically just for Riley.
AA Meetings and Conversations on Faith
00:32:13
Speaker
And so he doesn't have to travel every day. But... This leads to, I shouldn't say, but this leads to a lot of really interesting conversations though that they have. And again, it's a slow, I guess you can consider it a slow thing, but it's really interesting because they dig into the topics of recovery and how religion can be used as a, as a way to cope with your recovery. Well, that's what the AA is about, right?
00:32:38
Speaker
Yeah. Well, are all AA's religious based? Like, I don't know. Well, no, I think they used to be. And then there were a lot of atheists who were drunks too. Well, they didn't like the fact that it was based on God.
00:32:51
Speaker
They wanted it to be based on so self-determination. I figure out how to solve my own issue. So there are ones today where they have none of the religious overtones to them.
00:33:02
Speaker
Yeah. But you're right, like this one, i mean, obviously, because there's a priest giving it as well. Yeah. You know, they, he, I think he leans into like Riley should be using God and religion to help him cope. And and Riley's more of an atheist and saying how like those, it's not a tool he wants to use.
00:33:21
Speaker
Yeah. Right. So. Yeah, because like some people, even you to a certain extent, the mere mention of religion is off-putting to them.
00:33:34
Speaker
And so that's how Riley feels. He does not want any external force that can't be defined or otherworldly being the solution to
Exploration of Belief and Guilt
00:33:45
Speaker
his problems. He wants either someone to guide him that's flesh and blood, or he figures it out.
00:33:50
Speaker
But he doesn't want the boogeyman, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or God, or anybody else who he would consider fictional to be the reason why he solved his problems.
00:34:01
Speaker
He doesn't want that. So you see, again an interesting, like you said, I think that Flanahan has like a lot of, he knows the Catholic religion, right? He does very well.
00:34:12
Speaker
Because these conversations are very interesting with how it's back and forth about belief and whether you actually believe or not and what belief means, right? yeah So he does a lot of these good monologues with Father Paul that's you know I don't remember them all and I'm not into like the whole religious thing to know enough about it, but it's just interesting to hear how we you know they they kind of fight the two sides of it, right? Riley the non-believer versus Paul the believer.
00:34:42
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, and he also brings up the ah thing that a lot of Catholics learn when they're older is it's almost like you're trained to feel guilty.
Impact of Catholic Guilt
00:34:51
Speaker
Before you do anything, you're trained to feel guilty about it.
00:34:54
Speaker
And it's used as a weapon against y'all. It's so odd to me. And so throughout this show, that comes up too about the guilt that that you should or should not feel and the way to get rid of the guilt, which is yeah what we learn later in the show.
00:35:10
Speaker
Mike Flanagan does really know, or at least he at least researched a lot about the Catholic faith and the ins and outs of it. And like I've talked to a few priests because I've had some priests. I just met another one the other day when I did ah the show called The AWS Show, and he was actually one of the people working as the one of the helpers, although he's retired priest now.
00:35:29
Speaker
And we hit it off really well because I'm fascinated by religious history, and but he's like practicing the faith part. But we get along really well because there's places where we can merge and talk without having arguments and all that kind of stuff.
00:35:42
Speaker
We have these big picture kind of conversations, and it'd be sort of like what you were seeing in this show. And there's a lot of people who would have to walk away from that conversation we were having. So we had to walk go away and talk amongst ourselves because we didn't want anybody to get offended by what we were saying.
00:35:58
Speaker
so yeah I understood it. That's why this show appealed to me. Because I could have seen myself having all of these conversations. Yes. yeah Every one of them. Yeah. No, it's definitely like that's what kept me drawn
Gianna's Skepticism towards Religion
00:36:10
Speaker
in, right? Is because I was like you. I grew up in the Catholic Church. I've not really been into it but anymore. Yeah. You know, it's because to me, there's a lot of holes in the story. but You know, it's like, and like you said, these conversations really hit something because you're like, wow, like, yeah, these are the conversations, you know, that I always wanted to have or like thought about in those times.
00:36:36
Speaker
Yeah. So moving on, there's a couple other things
Liza's Paralysis and Community Dynamics
00:36:39
Speaker
we learned in this episode. We learn from a conversation that Liza, the reason for her paralysis was because the drunk guy, Joe, was drunk and accidentally shot her.
00:36:49
Speaker
Yeah, with a hunting rifle. Yeah, so that's why there's a lot of disdain towards Joe, obviously, because, you know, again, a terrible accident that fucked somebody up pretty bad. But it's also the reason why he's drinking.
00:37:03
Speaker
Well, yeah, because Liza's only like probably 14 or 15, right? Yeah, she's about 14, 15 years old. Yeah. There's a conversation with Hawks about, like we talked earlier, the oil spill. Everybody got payments.
00:37:15
Speaker
But they mentioned that Beverly, our favorite person, encouraged a lot of people to donate the payments to the church.
Bev's Influence in Church and Town
00:37:25
Speaker
And then she put this money towards building this rec center, which is where they're having this AA meeting, by the way.
00:37:32
Speaker
What is the point of that small town having that rec center? Yeah, well, that's why they make you think that she's been, like, stealing the money, basically, right? Because, yeah, what's the point of... you know, because Joe's the one that's talking about this because he hates Beverly so much. yeah And he's saying that by her convincing all these people to take the settlement and then donate to the church, she basically killed the town.
00:37:55
Speaker
So that's why he holds a lot of anger towards her. We see that a lot of this is Father Paul struggling to... capture the town.
00:38:07
Speaker
So there comes this moment where he's in church and he's giving communion and Liza, who's in a wheelchair, goes to take communion and as she moves the chair forward he steps back.
Miracles and Skepticism
00:38:20
Speaker
Which is pretty fucked up, you know, in the moment. You're like, what the fuck is this dude doing? And the whole room is upset about it and then he beckons her forward and she starts to like come again, he walks up the stairs, right?
00:38:33
Speaker
And he tells her that she can stand and come to him. And again, I'd be pretty upset too if I'm in the audience watching this happen. You're like, what the fuck? But sure enough, she stands up and she's able to walk to him.
00:38:49
Speaker
And this becomes the first quote unquote miracle that's performed by Father Paul. Now see, here's the thing. I don't know how often this happens in the Catholic faith and Catholic churches around the country or the world, but in the South, in the Baptist faith, they used to have a lot of people like Jimmy Swaggart and all them guys yeah who could heal you from the audience. And you can see or walk or fly or whatever you used to do that you can't do anymore.
00:39:22
Speaker
Magically, just like this. I know what happened throughout the nineteen hundreds I don't know if they can go back in the 1800s with that. But the 1900s, this happened a lot. yeah From the beginning of the century to the end of it. Because there were preachers who figured out a way to make money off of poor people was to perform miracles in front of them.
00:39:39
Speaker
And this is why I thought, one of the reasons why I thought you have your bias against religion is because of these shysters. Yeah, it's bullshit. It's all set up in advance for that person to stand up.
00:39:50
Speaker
I can walk. I can see. I can fly or whatever. And people buy into it. It's the same reason the 700 Club and all them used to be getting all that money when Oral Roberts said, God wants y'all to pay me $8 million dollars where he's going to kill me. you know So you have Oral Roberts University, which a lot of that money was funded to.
00:40:08
Speaker
This was what I thought was going to turn you off when you saw that kind of stuff. Again, I still at this point am not really sure what's going on, right? Yeah. So... Did you think it was supernatural she really got up out that chair?
00:40:20
Speaker
No, definitely something supernatural, right? Okay. But I wasn't sure... I guess like looking back now, because I was going to talk about that too. We hear, so basically there's a scene too where we see a shot almost like we're flying around the island.
Supernatural Elements Unveiled
00:40:37
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah And now i looking back now, it kind of makes sense what they're trying to do, but at the time it didn't really land with me what they're insinuating. Right. Yeah.
00:40:48
Speaker
And we see this, scene kind of dropped down on the roof of Aaron's house. And then she looks up like there's a noise. On top of the roof. yeah Yeah. And so she goes outside to, or she looks out the window and doesn't see anything. It's just kind of setting up that creepiness, right?
00:41:04
Speaker
We don't see the point of view of what it is that we're, who's looking. yeah Something's flying above the town and we don't ever see what it is. And it's at only at night. But at one time it lands on Aaron's house and she can hear it walking on her roof.
00:41:18
Speaker
She looks out the window. and then something happens that she has to be called away. but But she never went outside to investigate. don't know. Would you have went out there by yourself? No.
00:41:32
Speaker
You crazy? Well, you know, some people, you know, in the horror movies, it's always the white people, but it's usually men, who go out, I heard a noise. I'm going to go investigate.
00:41:43
Speaker
I know it's probably a dude with an 18-inch butcher knife, but that's OK. I'll outsmart him. And he ends up dead. yeah
00:41:53
Speaker
But this is where we see later the guy Bull, they call him, right? Yeah, the drug dealer. The drug dealer is a walking by this abandoned house and we see a creature attack him.
00:42:07
Speaker
He heard a noise, as I just said, and wanted to investigate. That's right. Like a fucking idiot. Yeah. But this is when we get the first, like, obviously some kind of creature attacking the cats, attacking people, like something's going on. Right.
00:42:22
Speaker
By the way, on that beach, there was hundreds of cats. Oh I forgot to say that. Yeah. Hundreds of them on that beach. Yeah. So also after this, Aaron pays a late night visit to the doctor because she noticed some like spotting.
00:42:35
Speaker
So she's worried about the baby. Sarah, the doctor says nothing serious, but after she leaves, we get and ah thing into Sarah's mother, like we said earlier, who is, has serious dementia.
00:42:47
Speaker
Yeah. Claims that she saw Sarah's father, right? Who's been dead for 15 years. Look, looking in the window. We also know that Sarah's mother had to be moved downstairs because she doesn't want to Sarah doesn't want to go up the stairs anymore.
Community Struggles and Decline
00:43:01
Speaker
And the mom keeps trying to wander up there because that was her bedroom, right? Oh, because she doesn't want her falling down the stairs. Yeah, it doesn't want her falling down the stairs. Yeah, that's yeah why. But that's like a big plot, not plot point, but there's a big thing they keep showing too, is that the mom keeps trying, like she's just so full of dementia, right? That she can't do anything for herself.
00:43:19
Speaker
So finally we get to, there's a potluck that the town folk throw every year and everybody's having a good time but in the middle of it we find out that Joe the drunk's dog has been poisoned.
00:43:35
Speaker
And obviously again, like, guess he just does hate animals, right? All the cats dead and the dog gets poisoned too? So that's episode number two. And then the dog is, that's Joe's dog. And he ate a hot dog and died.
00:43:48
Speaker
i mean, he's the poison, the the drool and vomit's coming out of the dog's mouth. So it wasn't an easy death, you know? But people don't die easy in this show either. Even the dogs and cats, I guess.
00:43:59
Speaker
So, Joe is convinced that it was poison, and that someone poisoned his dog, and between him and the sheriff, they both think it's the obvious culture of Bev. And we kind of think this too, because it's shown that she has this closet at the church that had rat poison in it.
00:44:14
Speaker
And she claims it's for the rats, as, you know, anyone would. Yeah. But, no, don't really know. Is she the kind of person that would... kill the town drunk's dog because she hates him so much. I mean, yeah, probably. Probably.
00:44:29
Speaker
We also see the sheriff go and talk to Bev, who kind of talks him in circles.
Bev's Manipulative Conversations
00:44:34
Speaker
Like, she's pretty good at what she does when it comes to, like, beating someone verbally, right?
00:44:41
Speaker
But she's had ah lot of practice. Yeah. Right. Apparently she's been the town asshole for decades. So she's, she knows how to shut you down every which way. Cause she's got the power of the Lord backing her. Yeah. The power of the Lord.
00:44:58
Speaker
i forgot to say too each one of these episodes is named after a book of the bible right that's right this was the first one yeah so all the religious themes again i don't know why people are mad when it's filled with religion stuff i don't know what they were expecting
Father Paul's Illness and Powers
00:45:14
Speaker
Oh, and I forgot to mention, I believe it's the second episode too, where after the miracle is performed, Bev goes into the father's house and sees him like sick on the floor, right?
00:45:26
Speaker
And she also turns to a photo on the wall. We don't see what it is yet, but she has like a revelation. Yep. So it's an old photo, all hints of old photo. Yeah.
00:45:37
Speaker
Hanging on the wall. So we get to the next episode. i think father Paul's been there a few weeks now. And obviously with the miracle of healing Lisa, the people are now starting to believe in him or like be curious of what is happening.
Suspicions about Father Paul's Intentions
00:45:56
Speaker
I mean, I guess I would too, if someone suddenly walked after all those years, right. You got I think it would inspire, I'd obviously be skeptical, but it would inspire questions, right? No, keep going with that.
00:46:09
Speaker
So you're telling me I walk into your house and Craig ain't feeling well, he's got 118 degree fever. All of a sudden I lay hands on him and he's healed. You're not thinking, Sean, you're the greatest thing since peanut butter and jelly.
00:46:23
Speaker
Yeah, man. Well, I mean, like, okay, that's a different one because if Craig's only had a fever for a couple days, I'd be like, well okay. But this this chick has been paralyzed for what, 10 years? Not 10 years, but like three or four years maybe?
00:46:36
Speaker
So yes, if suddenly she walked again, i might be a little bit like, oh, what the fuck? But the man did that though? Well, you don't know at this point, right? No, no, no. I'm talking about you Would you, would, are you saying the power of God worked through that man make her walk?
00:46:54
Speaker
wouldn't say that. I would be skeptical of what happened. I don't know if I would say the power of God. Okay. Let's, let's not get crazy. well what What was he channeling then if it wasn't God?
Faith vs. Logic Debate
00:47:05
Speaker
I mean, he's a priest doing it. So yeah, I guess, but see, that's like we said, we're, we're in such a, a time of seeing people fake it so much. Oh, I know.
00:47:16
Speaker
That like, it would be different if you lived in a town where everybody knew this girl and knew that she was legit paralyzed. Yeah. She started walking again. That I think would probably be like a punch in the face of what what is going on right whereas a lot of the ones we see you don't know if the person's a plant or what's going on that's right so yes i think in a certain situation if someone was healed in front of me i might believe in something. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. But I don't know. It would be the circumstance, right? So... Ladies and gentlemen, her defense is a weakening.
00:47:55
Speaker
She is starting to crack a little bit here. Yeah, shut the fuck up. Move on with the show. You don't think you would be a little bit curious at what happened? I would be incredibly curious!
00:48:05
Speaker
Are you kidding me? But I'm the guy who wants, look, ladies and gentlemen, I'm the one who wants to see the four horsemen in the flesh. I want them to show up. I want this to happen.
00:48:17
Speaker
I want revelations to happen, all of it. Gianna would not want this because one, she doesn't believe in it. And two, she thinks it. What's the point? What is the point of all this?
00:48:27
Speaker
You see what i'm saying? I'm the guy. I'm the Kool-Aid drinker. I say this to people all the I believe every single word of the Bible, but I can't prove any of it.
00:48:38
Speaker
And to me, that's the point of the faith. You're supposed to believe without proof. Gianna has a hard time doing that because she's very analytical. So she can't do the faith part. it It hurts her soul or some shit.
00:48:50
Speaker
So that's why she can't do that. But if it was in front of her, I'm just wondering, it would test her. She'd have to make some decisions. This would be a test. If I was in a situation like that where someone I'd known for a long time and knew was legitimately crippled or some other like sick or whatever, and they were suddenly healed, yeah, I would probably question myself a little bit of what I believed.
00:49:14
Speaker
right But it has to be, like I said, it has to be a very particular situation situation for that to happen it can't be fast eddie just laying hands on some chicks say hey the power of christ compels you anyways back to our girl lisa who again this girl is an amazing actress because she was lenore in house of usher and she was so good oh that's right that's right i forgot about that but she decides to go and confront joe yeah
00:49:49
Speaker
But is a beautiful scene, I thought. She tells him how much she hates him and what he did to her, but in the end, she forgives him. And it's a really beautiful scene. So you you did like
Themes of Redemption and Healing
00:50:02
Speaker
I did, yeah. See, this was my favorite scene of the entire series. Really? And I didn't know people were going feel the same way because I did read some reviews some people were just blown away by it. But of the entire, what, seven episodes, this scene right here is what blew me away more than anything else I saw.
00:50:20
Speaker
It's beautiful. Yeah. it's I mean, that that must have been really difficult to write that the way it was. because that I mean, he must have had hit that with several tries because you don't do that on the first, second try. It was so visceral.
00:50:32
Speaker
Her emotions were so raw and she had to focus it. All that hate that she wanted to inflict on this man. She was holding back just to let him know that I forgive you for what you did to me, even though you fucked up my life.
00:50:45
Speaker
Yeah. So I thought it was great. Yeah, no, was well written. it Like she did a phenomenal job acting in this scene. Like it was so, you felt it, right? You really felt all the emotions she's struggled through and her own fight probably inside to forgive someone for hurting her so deeply, you know?
00:51:06
Speaker
yeah But this also inspires because of how she forgave him, Joe decides that he's finally gonna deal with his demons and joining the AA meetings with Father Paul and Riley.
00:51:18
Speaker
He admits to Riley that he never thought he'd ever step foot in the church ever again. So this is like a really big deal for him. Mm-hmm. We also see lovely Beverly who likes to fuck with people. Gives out Bibles at school. Yes, she does. She gives as the kid of the sheriff, who's a Muslim, and pisses him off a little bit that, you know, that she doesn't respect other people's religions.
00:51:43
Speaker
Because you can't do that at a school unless it's a private school. Yeah. And so he goes to a ah town meeting and like really goes at her after it, but she...
Bev's Leverage and Influence
00:51:56
Speaker
ends up using the ah miracle again to kind of compel all the other parents in the room to agree with her, basically. Okay, can we stop right there? Yeah. This is something I've read a lot, too. People thought that this show was a show that is supposed to convince people to become Christians.
00:52:13
Speaker
Did you feel that? No. I didn't feel that one time out of any episode I saw, but I saw that same statement several times that there was a commercial for being Christian and how it's the one true faith, which a lot of Christians believe, but I did not feel that this show was the purpose of it was to convince people to be Christian.
00:52:36
Speaker
I thought it was a story about Christians, about this particular set of Christians, but it wasn't an advertisement for Christianity. And a lot of people felt that way. I mean, maybe that's just the times we're in because people very sensitive to any kind of, I guess, subliminal messaging that they feel the writer is inflicting on
Debate on Religious Themes
00:52:54
Speaker
them. yeah So it's it's basically how you interpret but what you're watching.
00:52:59
Speaker
But I saw that statement a lot in the IMDb gangster reviews. so See, to me, it's the opposite. It's a cautionary tale of how you shouldn't believe in something too much. True. Yeah, that's true too. Like that's how I feel about it. Like, because it does kind of the fervor, or the religious fervor kind of takes over
Sheriff's Discrimination Experiences
00:53:18
Speaker
a lot of people. It does.
00:53:19
Speaker
They just blindly follow, which we'll get to in the last episode, all the things that are going on. Yeah. But I mean, part of that, so yeah, so this, Kind of leading up to that, like the son, Allie, is talking to the sheriff and he's upset because he wants to go to to church and the dad doesn't want him to.
00:53:37
Speaker
And he tries to explain to him, like they start talking about the miracles and he talks about how the wife and mother, like she died of pancreatic cancer and he stopped believing in miracles because there was nothing that could save her. Yeah.
00:53:50
Speaker
But we also see that when he turns off the bedside light, there's a face with glowing eyes outside the window. There you go. That peeping Tom. So we're getting the hint of the monster here. But yeah, that leads up to later because oli then decides to join the church, right? Because he's also rebelling against his father. Right.
00:54:10
Speaker
I liked it. They incorporated someone who was Muslim into the series too, right? To show that there's different religions and different points of view and not everybody believes in
Sheriff's Struggles with Acceptance
00:54:20
Speaker
Right. Honestly, I thought it was a little weird though, for this particular town, I could see it in a bigger city, but I thought it was weird because of the size of this town, but they explain it later. Right.
00:54:31
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I know. i just But it just kind of felt weird. Like, it felt a little forced to me. I guess you're not voted, because some sheriffs are voted in. Yeah. So you can apply for it just like a regular state job or city job or whatever.
00:54:44
Speaker
I don't know how easily the town would have accepted ah Muslim sheriff. Well, but let's just go ahead skip. I don't remember which episode he talks about it in, but yeah, he basically says that after nine eleven he was discriminated against for being Muslim, right?
00:54:59
Speaker
And so it went from him being like a hero to him being like no one wanted a Muslim on there on their squad. Right, because they didn't trust him. Yeah, so he ended up having to really just take the only appointment that was available and ended up on the island.
00:55:15
Speaker
But I mean, he talks about how everyone kind of hates him on the island and how he hasn't been welcomed. You know, like, I feel like they did a good job of showing that it wasn't easy for him.
00:55:26
Speaker
What I'm saying is even if you took the job, I would be surprised that the guy would stay. Yeah. Because this is even more magnified because the island is so small. Yeah. And you got to see the same people every day. I mean, literally every day.
00:55:39
Speaker
And so it it it just depends on how much of the the mean looks you're going to get and the but people making jokes about you. Bev, later in the show, refers to him as a terrorist. And he was a law enforcement He's a law enforcement guy still.
00:55:53
Speaker
And she refers to him as a terrorist only because he's a Muslim. And then one guy calls him a raghead, which is a slur against Muslims, Arabs, whatever. And so, yeah, it's just, that's that's my point. It just,
00:56:05
Speaker
hearing that every day would be very difficult for a man or woman to deal with all the men i don't think he would have done it if his wife was still alive though i don't think he would have been there then but i just think that would have been very difficult with your son and so if you're getting it your son's getting it yeah that's true that's my only if he was a single man maybe but i don't think he would have taken the job but him and his son and his son's getting the same shit yeah that's why i felt kind of forced to me is what i'm saying Yeah, I can see that.
00:56:31
Speaker
So we also see Father Paul possibly performing another miracle because he starts to visit the mother, Mildred, and do service for her. They talk about how devout she was and how she used to attend service every day.
00:56:44
Speaker
yeah So he decides to start making house calls and giving her communion every
Miraculous Health Improvements
00:56:48
Speaker
day. And we see one day that her daughter, Sarah, the doctor, sees the mother out of bed and standing up and lucid.
00:56:57
Speaker
Yeah, she recognizes her. Mildred's her name. She did not recognize Sarah. Well, cause she's in, I guess, advanced dementia. And then one day she says like, this fog was lifted over me and I can see you now.
00:57:11
Speaker
See you for who you are now. And then like we said earlier, Father Paul is getting increasingly sick. Like he performed that musical, musical, sorry, he performed that miracle, musical and miracle, and got really sick when Bev went and found him.
00:57:28
Speaker
And then we also see that after he's performing another service, he passes out. Yeah. And then also when he does and one of the AA meetings with Joe and Riley, he ends up collapsing when they leave.
00:57:42
Speaker
So Father Paul manages to get himself to the rectory. As soon as he gets inside the door, he starts spitting up blood. But we don't know why. but just know there's something going on with him.
00:57:54
Speaker
During this episode, Father Paul is kind of sitting in a confessional booth and kind of giving us a little bit of a talk over what's happened to him. And he tells us that Monsignor Pruitt was actually much sicker than anyone realized when they sent him on his pilgrimage.
00:58:13
Speaker
And his dementia had caused him to wander off from the group and he found himself in the middle of a desert.
Father Paul's Transformation
00:58:20
Speaker
he so this i'll get into this in a second why lot of this is a plot hole but he takes shelter her in a cave during the sandstorms and when he lights a match he discovers that there's a figure in the cave yep this is where i figured out that it was fucking vampires oh my god but this creature begins drinking his like attacks him and begins drinking his blood right and then fed him his own blood and so we see that
00:58:47
Speaker
Father Paul actually is Monsignor Pruitt. Yep. That he has been restored to his best self. Because this is a myth with vampires, right? That if you you turn into a vampire, you get like preserved as your best, most healthy self or whatever, right?
00:59:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's usually in your 20s or 30s. Anywhere it' between 20 and 40 is where you regress back to physically. But Father Paul calls it an angel. They which is very interesting, they never say the word vampire in the entire series.
00:59:15
Speaker
I know. I did in my notes. I just kept calling it vampire creature. I never called it an angel. Like I said, I immediately was like, motherfucker, we're dealing with vampires.
00:59:26
Speaker
yeah However, there's credence to this because he found him, that cave was part of an underground church that was buried by the sand. So he's basing the fact that that creature was there as being an angel because it was a church that he founded it.
00:59:43
Speaker
So here's my plot hole. Do more of these creatures exist? well And if so, why are they not made it out into the world? Because you're going to tell me there's only this one creature that fucking he finds in a cave, a cave that's open, right?
00:59:59
Speaker
Right. To the world. So you're telling me this creature never got out and never attacked other people. No, no, no it It has to get out because it has to feed. Yeah. So where are the rest of the vampires?
01:00:11
Speaker
That doesn't mean there's more vampires. Just because we don't know how old that vampire is. That's true. And plus he's in a part of the world that I normally never hear about vampires.
01:00:22
Speaker
They're in Israel and Damascus and all that. But why also would this creature choose to save Father Paul with his own blood and not just feed on him? Like why? The only reason you would do that is because youre you want a slave.
01:00:37
Speaker
So I'm assuming the purpose of that, even though it's never said, is he he wanted to get out of his current situation of living in that cave.
01:00:48
Speaker
And he needed an apostle, which is Pruitt, to do it. you know And so that's why he turned him. Because once you turn them without killing him, they become your servant. They have to do what you say. Yeah.
01:01:00
Speaker
So, but again, this is never said because throughout the show, it's presented that this was all my senior peer slash father Paul. This was all his idea. He wanted to put him in the trunk and haul him all the way back across to America.
01:01:14
Speaker
Cause we never hear the vampire speak. No, we never hear his thoughts. There's no internal monologue or anything. It's all coming from father Paul. So we don't know what the vampire's motivations were because he never says them.
01:01:26
Speaker
However, he could have just stayed in that cave. He could' have just killed them and fell off the body till it was all dried up. Yeah. As far as the multiple vampires think, there's no, I mean, we don't know there's not more of them. Like I said, that's the first time I've ever heard of a vampire in that part of the world.
01:01:41
Speaker
you're Usually they're in Transylvania or somewhere in Europe somewhere, but I've never heard of them, any of them down in the Middle East. Never. So it was a different twist on that. I still don't know why he would think it's automatically that it's an angel.
01:01:56
Speaker
What, just because of the wings? And if you remember, demons are just fallen angels. Yeah. But they're fallen angels, which means they're not good guys anymore. They they play for the bad side of the universe.
01:02:09
Speaker
Yeah. So I don't know why he blindsides himself saying, well, it's an angel. But I don't even question the fact that it could be a demon. See me, I see that thing coming out of that cave after it attacked me.
01:02:21
Speaker
You're in demon territory. You're not an angelic. I'm not seeing Michael or Gabriel or Uriel or any of them guys saying, well, you know what? I'm a good guy angel, but I'm going to take a nice big chunk out of your neck real quick.
01:02:33
Speaker
It's not going to happen. But so that's that I agree with. it It didn't make any sense. But I just I handlaid it because I'm like, let's just get on with the story.
01:02:42
Speaker
I thought it was kind of cool, though. I thought we were going to see more of that church. i Because I thought when we first saw the creature, I thought we were going to find out more about him from his point of view. Because the creature can't communicate. He just doesn't speak to us.
01:02:55
Speaker
But Father Paul says he can hear his voice in his head. So we could have heard some of this, and they never do that for So we don't ever hear the the motivations of the creature itself.
01:03:05
Speaker
We just see him. I guess kind of later we get the motivation for why Father Paul brings this angel back. Oh, we do know why, yeah, later, yeah. But like, why does the creature let him bring him back?
01:03:17
Speaker
Like, that's a whole thing as well, right? Because I feel like this creature could have easily just fed there. Right. And been done. I looked up Damascus. It has a population of 2 million people. The creature can feed all day and people are traveling through the desert all the time.
01:03:31
Speaker
That's what was saying. I don't know. I don't know why he needed to go to America or why he decided to turn Father Paul because have done that to anybody. Clearly he leaves that cave at night yeah and goes to find people to feed on because there's nothing in the cave but him.
01:03:46
Speaker
And you see what happens when they don't eat. You know, they get those hunger pains. So for episode four, we find out that Aaron goes for an ultrasound with the town doctor, and it shows that she doesn't have a baby at all anymore inside of her.
01:03:59
Speaker
Yeah. The doctor kind of tells her that she probably had a miscarriage, but they don't... Like, Aaron has no recollection. Normally, you know when you have a miscarriage, right? Especially because I think she's supposed to be a few months pregnant.
01:04:11
Speaker
Yeah. So it's very... weird because she doesn't have any recollection of what happened. But clearly this hits her really hard because, like she had said earlier, this baby was like saved her.
01:04:23
Speaker
And we do find out because this kind of ends up to her and Riley spend basically a whole day and night together just talking about things. And she tells this story to Riley about how we find out like her childhood was pretty fucked up because her mom once made her get a pet bird and then clip the wings of the bird to show like basically traumatized her showing that like, I forget what the mom exactly said, but like that there's no freedom, that your freedom's clipped, right? And that's how Erin felt on the island.
01:04:56
Speaker
And that's why she eventually ran away. Yeah. But she also talks about how she then got into an abusive relationship and had she not found out she was pregnant, she probably never would have left that relationship and come back. So yeah, the the her becoming pregnant was kind of a sign to her that she has purpose now.
01:05:16
Speaker
said There's something bigger than her in this world now. And clearly that husband wasn't working out for her. so But she looked at that baby as a sign to get out, to find a better life. And that's why she returned back to Crockett's Island for original home.
01:05:30
Speaker
Then Riley also shares with her about his dreams that he's been having of the the woman he killed. yeah And so they really like, I thought all these scenes were really good. Like them talking and just reconnecting, right? Because it's been so many years since they actually like were together or knew each other.
01:05:51
Speaker
Well, they would have talks throughout the show, though. Every time he walked by our house, she'd be sitting on her porch and they'd talk. That small of a town, you're going to see the same people every day. And there's only one yeah store, like grocery store, called the, I guess it was the general store whatever.
01:06:05
Speaker
One store. Oh, by the way, that's where the sheriff's office, too, is, in the back of the general store. So I thought that was weird. was like, good lord. Oh, I also noticed something else. I don't know if you noticed this, but when Joe of the drunk is in his cell, so there's a toilet next to his bed, there's a desk in front of the jail cell.
01:06:25
Speaker
So I got to sit at my desk and watch him take a shit? No, thank you. No, I would have built him an outhouse or something. I'm not going to sit there watch this man and smell this man's vileness coming at me when I'm working at my desk?
01:06:39
Speaker
No, thank Just saying. But we also see that Aaron is a little... distrustful of the doctor on the island. She goes to the mainland and she's shaken when they tell her that there's no sign she was ever pregnant.
01:06:53
Speaker
And they basically tell her to go get some psychological help. You know, someone made a comment in the IMDb gangster section that this show was promoting the fact that pregnancy was an illness.
01:07:06
Speaker
That's how he interpreted that. And I know some people have said things like that in the past. I just thought it was weird, because I got none of that. got literally none of that. So let's talk about that part. Like, the whole theory is that because we find out Father Paul has been feeding everybody vampire plug, right?
01:07:25
Speaker
that it healed her, I guess. But I don't know if it's taken as pregnancy as an illness. It's just that pregnancy is a parasite on your body, right? Because you're using your body's resources to feed something else inside of you, i guess, yes is how you would put it.
01:07:42
Speaker
So yes, when something is supposed to be restoring you to your peak of physical health, I guess, yeah, it would probably reverse a and no other better way to say it, parasitic thing inside your body, right?
01:07:56
Speaker
But he's saying the the point of the show that pregnancies are illnesses. I understand from the point of the virus what it was, because the virus is taking over a healthy person and turning it into an infected person.
01:08:10
Speaker
So anything that's not normally supposed to be there, the virus will attack. yeah But he's saying the subliminal message from the show was that pregnancies are basically an illness. No, I mean, I guess I could see how someone stupid would think that, but like, no, it's not saying that it's an illness. It's saying that it's something different in your body that's not optimal, right? Yeah.
01:08:32
Speaker
If anything, it's a condition that women go through in certain periods of their life. but that doesn't make it an illness. But and I could see this virus, because I thought that was interesting once the doctor was explaining what this virus was. yeah And ah once she said that about how it takes over the body, then I could see why it would attack the child.
01:08:53
Speaker
But apparently it's painless, because it wasn't like a lot of bleeding and stuff she had to go through, her severe pain. it It basically, I guess, absorbs and destroys the child. you know And you don't really notice it until you get examined, or you don't have the baby. It doesn't come to term.
01:09:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But we also see the hint of this, like we said, but the hint of the fact that they all have the vampire blood is that Sarah, the doctor on the island, has a vial of Aaron's blood and it's in the sunlight and it explodes.
01:09:23
Speaker
So, you know, because vampire blood cannot be in the sunlight. This is the first time I'd ever heard anybody break it
Scientific Explanation for Vampirism
01:09:29
Speaker
down scientifically. I thought it was so I thought that was kind of interesting because I'd never heard that before.
01:09:34
Speaker
yeah I've always heard it from the supernatural angle, but this guy figured out a way to scientifically explain what vampirism really is. I do agree. It's an interesting, like I said, i was really pissed overall about the fact that it is vampires, but he did a very good job.
01:09:52
Speaker
of creating a different story with vampires, right? Because like you said, it's an interesting about, you know, vampire blood is mythologically supposed to heal, right? So that's what he's doing is by giving a little bit of his blood to all of the town people during communion, he is like healing them, right? like By sort of turning them into into vampires, but not really turning them into vampires.
01:10:19
Speaker
So it's an interesting commentary on how all that works, I guess. However, when I was seeing the miracles happen, this is before you were giving me the machine gun text.
01:10:30
Speaker
I was like thinking. I wonder how many people would take that blood if it cured your
Vampire Blood as a Cure?
01:10:36
Speaker
disease. I bet you millions of people would do it, even if they only could come out at night.
01:10:42
Speaker
I bet you in real life, millions people would do it because it's better than being paralyzed from the waist down. It's better than being blind or it's better than being in dementia. At least I have some semblance of my regular life before whatever caused the affliction to my physical or mental stability.
01:10:59
Speaker
I guarantee you, because I know how humans are. And even if they only live in half a life, they can only live half the day and have to stay hidden the rest of the half. It's better than living with the affliction that they are suffering from.
01:11:12
Speaker
I bet money a lot of people would take it. Yeah, that's true. Even though you become addicted to it, because without the blood, I mean, you got to keep taking it. So it's basically a drug.
01:11:24
Speaker
It's not like a one shot thing. So we get into that because like you said, being
Father Paul's Blood Addiction
01:11:28
Speaker
a drug. So father Paul, we see is like, he needs to feed. Yup. Right. And so we see that he's getting more and more like twitchy and needing blood. He's giving a sermon and he gets sick again. Right.
01:11:40
Speaker
Yeah. And at this point, Beverly is also encouraging him to come and tell the town that he is the Monsignor, that he's not father Paul. But you'd have to explain that. That would be hard to get. How are people going to explain an 80 year old man looks 40 now? Yeah.
01:11:54
Speaker
yeah But yeah, after Beverly leaves him alone, we see Monsignor place his hand in some light and it starts to burn. There you go. And we also see that he's in in all this pain. So he has his rosary, he cuts his palm and he starts drinking from his own palm. Yeah.
01:12:13
Speaker
And then ah the wound heals immediately once he's done. He's starting to get a little bit crazy because he starts to ask the angel, scream for the angel to come back. Which I guess, is's so he's just let the angel flying loose at this point, right?
01:12:26
Speaker
Well, yeah. Remember, it lives in that house where Bo got killed. That's its home. Oh,
Joe's Death and Beverly's Beliefs
01:12:32
Speaker
that's right. That's right. Yeah. So then we see Joe, our town drunk, goes a whole day without drinking, and he's very proud of himself, and he visits to talk to to Father Paul.
01:12:43
Speaker
But he sees Father Paul chugging wine directly from the decanter, from the bottle. Maybe he has a fancy name for it. I don't know. Father Paul sees him and says that he's proud of Joe because he knows the compulsion that, you know, the hunger.
01:12:59
Speaker
Father Paul calls him over for a hug and Joe gets a little weirded out because it's a little bit too much of an embrace. and when he tries to get away, he falls backwards and he cracks his head open. Bleeds out on the floor.
01:13:12
Speaker
Bleeds out. And of course, Father Paul can't resist because it's blood and he just begins drinking it. I would make a horrible vampire because I can't ingest people's blood and I'm not licking it up off the floor.
01:13:26
Speaker
I'm a germaphobe too. You got two things going against you there. So I think I'd have to take the sunlight death, you know, barbecue my ass because I can't get past the fact that I'm licking blood off the floor. It's disgusting.
01:13:40
Speaker
it's just It just bothers me. But you know every time these vampires see it, they just get intoxicated by it and start tasting it and then licking. and It's gross. Just saying.
01:13:51
Speaker
Yeah. So this is where we get into how true of a believer Beverly is, right? Because but Father Paul is late for the morning mass, so she goes to check on him. And she sees Joe's dead body, blood everywhere, and Father Paul in the corner.
01:14:09
Speaker
And instead of freaking out, She goes and grabs two more of our side characters. Yeah. Oh, that was Sturge. Sturge and the Wade. The met Mayor Wade. That was actually the mayor.
01:14:23
Speaker
Oh, that's right. That's the mayor. Yeah. It's weird because he doesn't act like a mayor. He acts like just a regular old dude, but he's actually the mayor of the town. Yeah. And tells them they need to get rid of the body. And she sucks about how it's an act of God, compell you know, because Father Paul is performing miracles.
01:14:39
Speaker
So bitch is crazy. but
01:14:44
Speaker
he also shows her how his hand burns in the sunlight. yeah So she believes that he's supernatural, right? and Or agent of God. Agent of God, yeah.
Riley's Suspicion and Attack
01:14:57
Speaker
But we see again, because Father Paul is spiraling, he doesn't know what to do. And he prays for the angel to return. and I love when the angel comes in, he's wearing this the coat and hat of the Monsignor.
01:15:09
Speaker
Ridiculous. I thought it was weird, too. He walks in in a trench coat and a hat. So you're just walking around like that, and no one notices you because you got the hat and the trench coat.
01:15:20
Speaker
You don't stick out a little bit. And you're like six foot five. So, you know, you you really are a big man. So I don't know. it was i I thought it was odd, but whatever. But yeah, the vampire begins to fill the empty bottle with his own blood for the Father Paul.
01:15:36
Speaker
And he cuts his hand open and lets it bleed into the bottle. So now here's where we get trouble because earlier in the episode, Riley had asked Father Paul about Joe, where he was, because he missed an AA meeting.
01:15:50
Speaker
And the father actually lies to him and says that he went to visit his sister. But Riley knows that he Joe hasn't talked to his sister in years because he he said something to him earlier about it.
01:16:02
Speaker
And she passed away a few weeks ago. sorry, passed away. That's right. Yeah, yeah. yeah Yeah. Riley knows that he's full of shit and he's been walking around kind of like upset about it. And he decides to go.
01:16:15
Speaker
back to the church and visit it and unfortunately when he does the vampire the creature is there riley gets attacked yeah i don't know what he could even have done the thing lee he he stops bleeding in the bottle turns around and leaps across the room and just tackles him and then starts biting into his neck like it's a big old chicken yeah riley's uh our main character of the story basically is now Well, after this episode, we don't know. Is he dead or is he a vampire?
01:16:45
Speaker
Well, the in the comments, that's what they were saying. they're like, wait a minute. The only character I liked in the story and you kill him off? I know.
01:16:55
Speaker
And especially because didn't mention earlier in that episode, Riley and his dad finally like make up, you know, they finally come to terms with everything. Yeah. And we also see that like the whole town is getting better, right? Because we see that like his parents have been doing better, like don't need glasses or whatever. And yeah, his father had back pains and that they went away. Yeah.
01:17:16
Speaker
Oh, I think we also, in that episode, I forgot to say that that Mildred, the mom who keeps getting better, um recognizes the young Monsignor Pruitt at a certain
Mildred's Regression
01:17:26
Speaker
Oh, she's also getting younger. Not regressing is the right word. like Is regressing to her better self, I guess? I don't know. The right word to use. What was it when Brad Pitt did it in that movie where he...
01:17:38
Speaker
Oh, yeah, when he ages backwards, guess that's how you would. Yeah. so Benjamin Button. Benjamin Button, yeah. So it's the same thing. She's aging backwards, and you can't hide it. And no one seems to know why it's happening to her, because they don't know about the blood yet.
01:17:52
Speaker
But the dementia was the first thing to go away. What we didn't know was going to happen was she was going to get younger. But the difference with her and everybody else, Father Paul goes to see her every single day.
01:18:03
Speaker
So she has the blood every day. So she's getting a lot more than everybody else is getting. Yeah. So that's why this is happening to her. We see at the beginning of this next episode that Mass has been moved to Midnight Mass now. Yep.
01:18:16
Speaker
Because Father can't go out in the sunlight, obviously.
Father Paul's Divine Army Speech
01:18:21
Speaker
so when a younger mildred the younger looking mildred and sarah show up for mass father paul gives a very kind of crazy speech it's little disturbing when he talks about them being god's army yeah and how there's things for them to fight and sacrifices will be made yeah mildred is actually a little scared and she says that that's not That he's not the man she knew. Yeah.
01:18:49
Speaker
I don't think at this point everybody knows who he is, but she's ah aware that this is not the Monsignor that she knew. And it's not the church that she wants to be a part of. Although she still isn't saying anything about how it's possible he's regressing like that.
01:19:03
Speaker
Yeah. Why is he young? She still hasn't said that that never comes up when she's regressing. You know, there's it's odd to me that that, I mean, that'd be the first question. If I'm 80 years old and then I see, and some people knew me, you know, when I was younger and they're saying, how come we're all old and you're like 40 again?
01:19:21
Speaker
Like, I don't, I don't know. I mean, I like donuts. Maybe that's what it was.
Riley's Transformation into a Vampire
01:19:26
Speaker
So we see that Riley survived and that the father decided for whatever reason to turn him into a vampire as well.
01:19:33
Speaker
And Father Paul starts to tell a story about him interacting with a young Riley. And obviously Riley doesn't understand yet that this is the Monsignor in front of him. Because again, nobody really knows except for Beverly and Mildred at this point. Yeah.
01:19:54
Speaker
And so this is where Father Paul kind of explains to Riley everything that he went through and says from now on he'll be honest with him. But he still believes that this is all God's work, right?
01:20:06
Speaker
And that when he killed Joe, it was like he couldn't save him at that point. But Riley asked what the creature was that fed on him, and the father is still convinced that it was an angel.
01:20:17
Speaker
Right? So it's still a little bit of crazy. We see Beverly and Sturge come. And again, Beverly's all in on it because she like helped basically turn Riley into a vampire. Yeah.
01:20:30
Speaker
And they make, ah they have Sturge give some blood that Riley can drink. And they tell him, That again, don't use the word vampire, but that he is transform transforming and he has been chosen by God.
01:20:44
Speaker
It's just so crazy. I know. I know. It'd be weird if it was actually a real thing in our world. I mean, there are people who believe they're vampires, but yeah I mean, real vampires. I'm not talking about wannabe vampires.
01:20:56
Speaker
Yeah. But then we get a little bit of an argument because Beverly thinks that they need to keep Riley behind closed doors. And Father Paul thinks that he should be able to do what he wants. It's God's will.
01:21:09
Speaker
And that's ah that Riley can return once the hunger and at which point they will... figure out, you know, a chosen person for whatever he's got to feed or whatever.
01:21:23
Speaker
So. Because in that instance, where that blood came from that they gave Riley, Sturge cut his arm open and then bled into a cup. Yeah. And then the thing is with Sturge, apparently he's been doing this for a couple of times because he has different bandages up and down his arm.
01:21:37
Speaker
So, you know, I don't know if I'd want to be someone's personal blood bank. I'm just saying, I need the blood for me too, you know? We also see that this is the first time they show Father Paul in this episode pouring vampire blood into the communion wine.
Manipulation of Communion Wine
01:21:52
Speaker
So gross. This is an episode where most of it's spent on these scenes of the father and and Riley talking again. And like you said, we, we get a sense from this, that Bev and Sir Sturge have not done this.
01:22:06
Speaker
This isn't the first time, right? They're fully aware, but fully aware, cause they still think it's an angel, but they're fully aware that they're co-conspirators and whatever crazy shit's going on. Right.
01:22:17
Speaker
Yeah. And they just believe that this is the the work of God. So they're all a little bit crazy.
01:22:26
Speaker
Although, is it though now? Because now that you see how the, what's happening with the blood, that's still science. Yeah. I mean, and honestly, the vampire, it's not a supernatural vampire.
01:22:40
Speaker
No. I think it's just a different species of something. that we don't, just apparently has not been discovered or either it's where vampires, bats grow into, which I guess that could happen. yeah But honestly, there isn't very much supernatural stuff in this.
01:22:57
Speaker
If you look at it, what's supernaturally happened so far? um that was actually supernatural not based on science because once they explain that blood thing that's all science right there that's why i wish the vampire would have talked i would have known wanted to know more about him where he came from what and like you said where are the ah where your buddies at where are the little blood sucker guys at you know yeah right i want to know more um but before i get to the last scene of this episode i forgot to mention that one of the talks that Aaron and Riley have in their times hanging out together as they talk about what death, what they think death is, right?
01:23:36
Speaker
And i this is another scene I really enjoy. So you did like this? Her monologue, I thought it was beautiful. Yeah. A lot of people I was reading didn't like this.
01:23:47
Speaker
There were talks about how like, I wrote a couple them down. She says, I remember that every atom in my body was forged in a star. This matter, this body is mostly empty space after all, and solid matter is just energy vibrating very slowly while there is no me.
01:24:03
Speaker
is The writing is just beautiful. yeah you know And then she says, just by remembering I'm returning home and it's like a drop of water falling back into the ocean, ocean yeah of which it's always been a part, all things apart.
01:24:17
Speaker
I just, I love that how she explains what she thinks God is, is just space and infinite. And you know, it's just, I thought it was a really interesting way to discuss death.
01:24:31
Speaker
Yeah. Well, a lot of people think when you actually die, taking all the religious components out of it, you just become energy again. the yeah The spark that makes your body go. yeah like Your body just dissolves and goes to nothingness. It just rots.
01:24:46
Speaker
But the actual spark that is you, the soul, whatever, yeah that goes back into like this vast sea of energy. Because essentially what everybody supposedly is, is energy.
01:24:56
Speaker
It's just we're covered in flesh at this point in time. that So you don't technically die. You just go back to the source and then come back whenever he or she whatever wants you to come back.
01:25:07
Speaker
I think it's an all right theory to it. It's just the only thing I don't like about that is that you probably will never know your current loved ones again.
01:25:19
Speaker
Yeah. Because all the the memories and stuff that that was just for this life. They don't carry on with you when you become energy and back to the source. Yeah. That I don't like because that's kind of sad to me because that means I don't ever get to talk my mom again.
01:25:32
Speaker
And I don't like that part. And then the man made. I don't know if it's man made. I'm just saying this. Don't all y'all get offended. the The way the Bible says heaven is to me is kind of like a feel good thing.
01:25:43
Speaker
that you'll see all your loved ones again, all your pains and aches will go away, and it'll be like a whole big reunion again. That just sounds like someone who wanted to make you feel good going when you when you finally do die.
01:25:54
Speaker
yeah But this is more of a scientific thing where it says you go back to the source where you came from, but you don't take the memories with you. You just take your existence with you, and then you could come back again as a different person and then relive. Because I think she also says you this over and over and over and over again.
Philosophical Conversation on Death
01:26:11
Speaker
So you've had lots of family members, lots of lives, you know? Yeah. But it to me, I still kind of like the fact that I had my one mom. I mean, her theory, I could have had 10 moms.
01:26:23
Speaker
But i I don't remember the other nine. i just remember the last one. So it kind of, to me, devalues the importance of the one I currently remember, not the nine I don't remember, you see?
01:26:35
Speaker
So... Did you like this conversation, though, between the two of them? um I don't know. i I was getting what they were saying. but i was a little bored by I really was. It it wasn't, it was, I like deep philosophizing like this, but I don't know. It just, for me, maybe cause I'd already heard different variants of this.
01:26:56
Speaker
It just really wasn't hitting me. Cause like i said, I'm a big science fiction guy. And in science fiction, this comes up a lot, this kind cause they figure out what is death, what really does happen to it. So I've heard this kind of stuff before.
01:27:08
Speaker
So to me, it wasn't as big as, like I said, with the girl with Lisa, when she was confronting ah Joe, you know? yeah But it was it wasn't like like some of the people in the comments hated it. They said yeah it was just boring. It went on because they didn't they said there were so too many monologues.
01:27:23
Speaker
And they said the monologues between Riley and Aaron were just endless. That you were just filling up time. I don't know. that's a That's a lot of work to put in that dialogue just to be filling up time.
01:27:35
Speaker
you know You have to really mean it. I don't agree with it. It was just filling time. I do agree that it was a lot of monologue and a lot of conversation. But again, like we've talked about many times when we review stuff, you and I like conversation. I do. We like these scenes of intimacy like this. Yeah. doesn't have to always be action. It can just be two people having a real talk. Right.
01:27:58
Speaker
And that's what I think a lot of this show was, was just building the characters and understanding motivations of why people were doing things. Yeah. But some people just don't have the patience for that. they They want, there's that thing where they say show, don't tell.
01:28:14
Speaker
yeah And they equate this to that. What that really means is you're not supposed to hand feed people things throughout the show. yeah You're not supposed to explain everything about what people are going to do.
01:28:26
Speaker
But that's not what this is. This is them expressing their feelings of something. That's what this is. So it's relevant to the story. It's not like I'm explaining my plan of how I'm going to handle A, B, C, and D. That, I understand, is the part you show.
01:28:42
Speaker
But this is two people expressing their feelings to each other because they want to see how the other one is thinking. they And the only way you can do that is to say it, unless you're going to write letters to each other.
01:28:54
Speaker
But today's environment we live in, people don't want long conversations in films anymore. They want action, action, action, and then gunshots, action, action, action, that kind stuff. Or sex.
01:29:05
Speaker
They to see that too. Big old titties.
01:29:14
Speaker
Oh my God. This is how the world is.
01:29:20
Speaker
But anyways, this whole, that whole conversation is what leads, I think, to this final scene.
Riley's Sacrifice
01:29:26
Speaker
Which is Riley decides to meet up with Aaron and he takes her out on a rowboat in the middle of the sea.
01:29:35
Speaker
And he's telling her basically that he's always loved her and felt connected to her. And then he starts to tell her what happened to him.
01:29:47
Speaker
And of course she's super skeptical, right? Because... It sounds crazy. Yeah. And then she starts to get worried. Like, did you bring me out here to scare me or to isolate me so you could, you know, do something to me? And he tells her, no, he did it so that he would have nowhere to go.
01:30:06
Speaker
And. That he knows she'll go back to the island and save everyone. But he needs her to believe and that's why he's doing this. Yeah. And then we see as the sun rises, he goes up in flames.
01:30:21
Speaker
I thought this scene was great. The whole thing. But see what's cool too is it intercuts to we see Riley seeing the face of the girl he killed reaching and reaching out to him. Yeah.
01:30:33
Speaker
But in reality, we flash back to Erin screaming and crying because she's now seen this guy she loves evaporate in flames. Yeah. Yeah. And see, and was that episode six, right? Five, right? five yeah So you just still got two more to go and you basically killed the main character off.
01:30:52
Speaker
And I like that. And I know there was pushback because people don't like their main characters they care for getting killed off before the end. And I'm like, no, that keeps it interesting. Because now you don't know who, as most of these people like to do, who to root for now.
01:31:06
Speaker
Now you don't know where to turn. Yeah. Because you the hero's just been barbecued. So now what do you do? you know But I thought it was interesting. Because I didn't see it coming. loved it. yeah Yeah.
01:31:17
Speaker
but i was wondering when he became a vampire like how do you move on with the show and that's this is the perfect way he sacrifices himself to show aaron that she needs to go and help everybody and and stop this craziness you know yeah So, yeah, what Erin does in the beginning of the next episode is she gets back to town and she tells Sarah, the doctor, that
Proving the Vampire Threat
01:31:38
Speaker
And even though Sarah is skeptical, she believes her. And the reason is because she goes and shows her the blood samples that catch on fire. So they grab Mildred and they all sit around the kitchen and and they start to kind of discuss. Well, Mildred was another reason because now Mildred is even 10 years younger than she looked the last time that Aaron saw her.
01:32:01
Speaker
so Yeah. And this is where they have the conversation, like we said earlier, of why Aaron's baby probably disappeared. Yeah. you know And that's where they kind of explain that, yes, if this blood is taking you...
01:32:12
Speaker
to or whatever's happening is taking you to your best self it's technically going to take away anything that would be hindering you from being your best self so that essentially means that female vampires can never have children yeah because they will always the body will kill it i think that's in the mythology of vampires right i don't think a female vampire has ever been addressed to have some type of reproductive oh because the the reproduction is when you bite someone and turns them Yeah, because also your body is technically dead, right? I guess so.
01:32:45
Speaker
I mean, well, it's dead, but it's still functioning. So your heart's still beating, your brain's still thinking and functioning. But you're right. I'm trying to think. Well, I know you don't go deep in this, but Blade, the reason why Blade is a vampire is because his mother was pregnant with him and bit by a vampire. Oh, weird. OK.
01:33:06
Speaker
I don't think you ever watched True Blood, right? No, that's TV series, no. Yeah, and True Blood, it was, like you said, they would create a new vampire. That's how you had a child, basically, was you would make a new vampire. Yeah. And then they would always be connected to you because you shared your blood them. the blood, yeah, the blood connects them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
01:33:27
Speaker
We also find out that before Riley killed himself, that he wrote letters for his parents and his brother. and Ed, the father, goes to Father Paul the next day distraught and doesn't understand all the things that Riley wrote.
01:33:44
Speaker
And believing that Riley was, like, suicidal, he gave them to Father Paul along with a letter that he had written to the Monsignor. Riley's words are, remember we are dust into dust. We shall return. Yep.
01:33:59
Speaker
So Riley's like, I'm coming for you. Motherfucker. yeah ah Although I don't know why, I guess like, I like the choice that Riley was killed off, but also there was another version of this where he could have stayed and helped.
01:34:13
Speaker
Right. I guess. I don't know. Yeah. But Riley doesn't seem like he's the kind of, he's not captain America. And I guess he didn't trust himself either, right? not feed on somebody or he didn't want to be that person.
01:34:26
Speaker
Look, the way I interpreted Riley was Riley was so broken by killing that girl and then doing the prison time that the Riley that would have done something died. The Riley we were seeing was a shell of himself and wanted to die.
01:34:40
Speaker
So this gave him an out where he didn't have to do anything. He have to put a gun to his head, didn't have to cut his own throat. He just waits for the sun to come up and then toast, gone. yeah you know So because I just saw just a broken man who did not want to live anymore.
01:34:55
Speaker
He said he had no goals, no ambitions. He didn't think he was going to ever leave the island. So he was already feeling, even though he wasn't articulating it, suicidal. He just didn't know how or when he was going to do it.
01:35:07
Speaker
And being turned into a vampire gave him his out. That's how I look at it. That's true. Yeah. So now Sarah is clearly freaked out, right? The doctor. And she goes to the sheriff and tells him that she feels there's a contagion being spread at St. Patrick's.
01:35:24
Speaker
And she wants to take blood samples to the mainland. And she wants Sheriff... to help. But this is where he tells the story we talked about earlier about why he ended up moving to the aisle island because, you know, he when he was targeted with racism and all that stuff, but it the lesson he got from that was to not overstep.
01:35:47
Speaker
He didn't want to come out as like heavy handed to people. Yeah. and And he already knows that they resent the fact that he's there to begin with. So unless it's necessary, he doesn't want to interfere in anything.
01:35:58
Speaker
He's even gone to so far that he like doesn't carry a gun or anything, or doesn't really get involved in the town business because people were already racist when he arrived and he doesn't want anything more. Yep.
01:36:10
Speaker
And so this is when we see him go home and his son wants him to join the midnight mass. And they have this big fight because the sheriff does not want to go and doesn't think that his son should be going either. The reason Allie wants him to go is Father Paul has told everyone he's planned a big surprise for this mass.
01:36:28
Speaker
Well, also cause Ali is amazed by the miracles yeah and he's thinking that maybe Christianity is the one true way to God. I mean, he's what 15 and he's seeing these miracles and you know, this isn't something that happens normally and he's a Muslim and he ain't seen one miracle in the Muslim faith. So that's why he's buying into this.
01:36:49
Speaker
Yeah. So we find Sarah Mildred and Aaron go to the dock to take the ferry and we learn from Sturge that, oh, all the ferries are in service so they've been canceled for the next day.
01:37:01
Speaker
Suspicious, okay.
Island Isolation and Tension
01:37:03
Speaker
Then we see that all of this has been orchestrated because they cut the power later and they've disabled the cell phone service. ye So they're basically stranding everyone on the island for whatever it's about to happen.
01:37:16
Speaker
And they've already, it says that half the boats on the island have already been taken away. And they want Sturge to get rid of the rest of them. So they're basically just stranding everybody there.
01:37:29
Speaker
And this is where a lot of singing starts. So I know you love that. it was a lot of singing. a bunch of members gather and sing on a procession towards it's the Easter vigil is what it is. It's a special Easter vigil.
01:37:40
Speaker
So annoying. Oh my God. so fun It was a lot of singing in this show. I did not see that coming at I guess I really didn't like, now that you say that i I do remember that, but I guess it didn't bother me as much. Oh my God.
01:37:53
Speaker
I don't know how everybody else is reading into all these messages that aren't there. The singing's right there. and ain't even hidden. It's right there. that You didn't see a lot of the IMDB gangsters complain about all the singing? Actually, that was the least thing. I didn't hear anything about that. they they All they kept talking about was the messaging stuff you know that they were reading into and stuff like that. But the singing wasn't a big thing for them, I guess.
01:38:19
Speaker
Yeah. Although a lot of people were saying, like I said, with the dialogue stuff, that the show felt very boring because they said, why am I getting this religious sermon when I'm supposed to be seeing horror? And I've also noticed something else about this that I guess I've been reading this a lot too.
01:38:35
Speaker
Within the horror community, there are a lot of people who don't consider horror, horror, if it's not in the modern world. Like, they don't want to see science fiction horror.
01:38:46
Speaker
They want to see horror in today's world. You're dealing with the axe murder or saw or that kind of stuff. They want that. To them, that's horror. And I didn't know there was a difference between.
01:38:56
Speaker
I thought horror was whatever tries to scare you. Yeah. that That's what it's supposed to be, right? Like, there's a lot of movies you won't watch because you don't want to see all the gore.
Modern vs. Supernatural Horror Debate
01:39:05
Speaker
But apparently it's becoming a different or it's breaking into different sects today.
01:39:10
Speaker
Because I've been reading that a lot. The people, every time they don't think science fiction is the horror they want to see. They want to see that guy like in Scream chasing you with the mask in a butcher knife. I guess that's what we talk about. It's different types of horror. Like, I don't like that type of horror, but I like the more psychological horror.
01:39:26
Speaker
Yeah, you do like that, yeah. I do read some people like that. They don't want gore, but they they like the atmospheric horror. So we get to Father Paul. He's wearing his gold robe again.
01:39:38
Speaker
And he talks about how it wasn't really an accident on the first day because for him it was a special day because the gold one's only supposed to be worn special days. And he tells the... ah congregation that he's been lying to this all the time and he actually is the monsignor and he wants to share this gift that he's gotten from the angel with all of them and this is where shit gets crazy because sturge comes up and drinks a cup of rat poison and kills himself yeah so this is where we get the whole jonesborough right is that where they all drink the kool-aid right
01:40:13
Speaker
In South Africa? Yeah. think it's South Africa.
Mass Poisoning Scene
01:40:16
Speaker
That's where the coal all drank the Kool-Aid because the dude told him to. Yeah. And I was like. They didn't know it was poison, though. He knew it was poison.
01:40:24
Speaker
They didn't know it was poison. thought they did, but maybe I'm. I don't remember them knowing. I thought he knew it. And then, like, I guess his lieutenants knew. And they put it in there. And they all drank it together.
01:40:35
Speaker
But I don't know if they all knew. It's been a long time since I heard that case. I don't remember. But yeah. I will say this, though. In this particular scene, when this happens and what Sturge drinks it and dies, the sheriff grabs his kid tries to leave. yeah Isn't that a crime right there?
01:40:53
Speaker
Shouldn't someone be doing something? Yeah, right. I mean, he's the only law enforcement on the island. No, he's just like, I want to get the fuck out of this place. I want to get out of here. That right there, when I said earlier, there were some other things about this that kind of bothered me.
01:41:09
Speaker
That bothered me. You're law enforcement. You saw this man drink this poison and the priest is holding him saying, no, just let it let it happen. Let it happen. Are you kidding me? You should be all over this.
01:41:21
Speaker
Call an ambulance. I don't know what they got there. I don't know. I didn't see any medical services there. There weren't even like cars, were there really? I don't even remember gar seeing a car. You know what? I don't remember any cars either.
01:41:34
Speaker
I think it was just boats. Yeah, people were just walking everywhere. That's true. Or you had a bike. ah There weren't kids that had bikes. So, yeah, you might be right. But, yeah, when the sheriff grabs him, though, he runs right into the creepy-ass vampire in a gold robe with, like... There he is. That vampire just likes to get stylish, huh? Like... Well, I did think that was a little odd, too, that this guy's wearing clothes. yeah Because when he was sitting in that dark-ass cave, how many clothes do you think he was wearing?
01:42:03
Speaker
but But yeah, so now the, let's we're going to just call him Monsignor from now on, is pleased to announce that his angel is here and we see Sturge wake up resurrected.
01:42:16
Speaker
he does. Now the here is that because they've been consistently drinking the blood of the vampire, they're already good, right? Because isn't normally you have to be fed the blood of the vampire to cure you like when you die? so No, no, you have to be bit first.
01:42:34
Speaker
Yeah. but But that just transmitted. you You're already drinking it Yeah. So it's already being transmitted to you. But normally you're bit. they They don't put it in cups and drink it. Normally you're bit. And that's how the virus leaves the source to the whole um from the host so into the prey.
01:42:51
Speaker
oh But they're voluntarily, well, they don't know it, but they're drinking it every day or every week. So it's already in their system. But yeah, so they decide to hand out cups of rat poison and they encourage everyone in the room that all they have to do is die to be reborn.
Sheriff's Son and Radical Beliefs
01:43:09
Speaker
And what's this is, I mean, I thought this scene was great. The kid does it, the sheriff's kid decides that he's all in. Yeah. And he just goes for it. And the poor sheriff is pinned to the ground and forced to watch his son drink poison.
01:43:22
Speaker
Like, it's a great scene. Like, this was really good. and And then, yeah ah go ahead. Oh, was just going to say, not everybody in the room was about this. No. Like, I would have a hard time.
01:43:34
Speaker
I don't care how many people in that room. I'm going to drink rat poison because that priest thinks I'm going to get back up. No, thanks. I don't care if I see other people getting back up. I don't know if it's going to work for me. But we see lot of people like Sarah, Mildred, and Erin obviously trying to stop everybody.
01:43:49
Speaker
But, you know, like the young girl's parents, lisza her parents both drink it. They tried to make Lisa do it but she wouldn't take it. But they were trying to put it to her mouth and she would not take it. So Mildred gets a hold of the of the sheriff's gun and shoots father Paul.
01:44:04
Speaker
Right in the head right in the head. And the vampire grabs her and and flies off into the night. And we should say at this point, Mildred is completely like a young woman now. Or like ah like in her thirty s right?
01:44:15
Speaker
yeah So we see that, like you said, half about half the room has not is not doing it. But we see the newborn vampires start to rise and they can't control their hunger.
01:44:28
Speaker
So they just start attacking and eating all of the non-believers. There you go. The sheriff, Aaron, Sarah, Liza, the brother, and warren Warren, and the mom, Annie, all escape.
01:44:42
Speaker
And they find Beverly hiding. The woman of faith, remember? Yeah, right. And they shoot her ass. Yep. Only turning her into a vampire faster.
01:44:54
Speaker
But when Beverly wakes up, she steps out and finds all the bodies everywhere and the church covered in blood. And she tells Sturge to just unlock the doors and let them roam. Because originally they were just going to keep everybody in the room as they transformed.
01:45:08
Speaker
And now she's evil and she's like, fuck it, kill all those non-believers.
01:45:14
Speaker
She's the true, you know what? Look, fuck the vampire. Bev's the true villain of this show. She is. She's been that way since the beginning. Yeah, she crazy bitch. so Yeah, because at least Father Paul really did think, I still think it's crazy though, but he really did think that the Lord was moving through him.
01:45:33
Speaker
He just was blinded, honestly. And it does make a little bit sense when we find out later about why he did all this. So let's talk about that because basically that's the start of this last episode is Mildred is now a vampire and she finds father Paul who's still alive because obviously he can't be killed with just a gunshot.
01:45:53
Speaker
And they sit by side and they talk and he tells her that the whole reason he brought the vampire back is because he wanted her back.
Father Paul's Family Motivations
01:46:01
Speaker
And we find out that they had an affair and that Sarah is actually their daughter.
01:46:05
Speaker
That's right. So he just wanted the love of his life back. That's why he did it. And he didn't want them to ever die. He wanted them to live forever. Because he also wanted Sarah to live forever, too. Well, because he tells her they wasted their lives by not being together, right? Because he didn't want to let go of the faith.
01:46:22
Speaker
Because, you know, in Catholicism, you're not allowed to have children or a wife if you're a priest. Yeah. I think it's the only religion that does that. Oh, maybe Buddhist monks, too. I'm not sure. The vampires are out now.
01:46:35
Speaker
Sorry, not the creatures, the the newly born newly born. And Bev is encouraging them to go door to door and burn all the houses down and basically turn everyone into vampires ye or kill them.
01:46:48
Speaker
You know, well, I guess if you kill them, they become vampires, depending on if they've gone to church or not. So well, she's literally saying we are now in revelations now. Yeah. It's also sort of Genesis. So instead of the biblical flood of water, we are going to create a biblical flood of fire.
01:47:03
Speaker
And that was why she started telling everybody to burn all the houses down except for the rec center, because there's a reason for that, and the church. She refers to the church as the ark.
01:47:14
Speaker
That is the ark was going to keep, because she said that there was apparently there was a fire there before. And things burned down except for the church. So she's interpreting that is, God did not let the church burn down, and he will not let this church burn down either.
01:47:26
Speaker
Because that church, there's a sign in front of the church that says, established in 1824. So it's 200 years old, ah close to it. yeah But it's never fallen down.
01:47:37
Speaker
No so natural disasters hit it, nothing. So she interprets that as, that's the divine will of God. there you go. So Beverly and Sturridge Vine a group of survivors. And When they realize it's really hard for them to escape, the mom, Annie, decides to go out and distract them while everyone else gets away.
01:47:56
Speaker
And they also encourage the two kids to go grab like the only rowboat that's left and get out to sea as fast as possible. So Lisa and Warren, right? Yeah. I like this scene too because you get Beverly finally being taken down a little bit, you know?
01:48:11
Speaker
When the mom tells her that, like, you're not special. Right. Like, God, this is happening to everyone and you shouldn't think that God loves you any more than anyone else. And you can see it does hurt Beverly a little bit to hear that.
01:48:25
Speaker
Yeah. Plus nobody in that town likes her except for maybe Paul. Yeah. That's it. And so Beverly being the evil person she is slits the throat of the mother.
01:48:36
Speaker
And he cut her own throat. Oh, I'm sorry. You're right. She cut her own throat. Yeah, she cut her own throat because Sturge is there. She goes, why does she do that? And she goes, it doesn't matter. No, it's to distract them because they start feeding on her. Oh, I know. But Sturge didn't know that.
01:48:51
Speaker
And then, of course, when she falls down starts bleeding out, Bev and Sturge get on their knees and start drinking the blood out of her neck. So gross. Yeah. That's how hepatitis C gets spread.
01:49:02
Speaker
Just like that. Yeah. Just saying. We see Annie after she is back at turn, she finds her husband and they...
01:49:16
Speaker
realize that it's not impossible to hold back that they don't have to do it right so you see that like there is a choice right and they're making a choice not to go and feed on people but it it only lasts so long as long as you can keep fighting that hunger off you're going to give into it at some point you're going go mad so you gotta you get the only other way out is death because you're now you're addicted you you're sick you have the virus now So Beverly has filled the rec center with cots for all those that have been chosen to sleep through the day.
01:49:49
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and she shows Father Paul and Mildred the burning island. And this is when the father of Monsignor finally realizes that she's fucking crazy and that he was wrong for doing this to the town.
01:50:00
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and But because Beverly is the villain, she says that he's no longer the leader and that she hopes they both enjoy the sunrise. Yep. ye Sturge informs Beverly that all the boats have been burned now, so there's no way at all to leave the island.
01:50:16
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They were like keeping a cache of boats, right, for when they turned so that they could go spread the gospel. The two main boats were going to come back in the morning, and they were waiting on that. But the problem is you got to leave before sunup.
01:50:29
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You can't go in the daytime or you get toasted. so that But they were going to come back in the morning. Monsignor finds, now we know his daughter Sarah, pouring gasoline in the church and he says good.
Resistance to Becoming a Vampire
01:50:43
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When i she's obviously taken aback by this, he starts to tell her that he's her actual father and how proud he is. But as this is happening, Sturge shoots her. It's devastating.
01:50:55
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All Father Paul Monsignor wanted was his daughter, his family. yeah right They cradle her and he attempts to give her some of his blood and she spits it back out because she does not want to be one of these creatures.
01:51:09
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I agree. I'd rather die too. Fuck that. It's just a great scene because it shows the consequences of his actions, right? Like he thought he could create this family and it turned it into bloody chaos. Yeah.
01:51:23
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But as they carry her body out of the church, they light it on fire. And we also see that the sheriff and Aaron have put gas all through the center as well. Yeah. and the vampire gets Aaron.
01:51:41
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and begins to feed on her. And this is a, well, this is just such a, the way he goes at her neck, man, it's a lot.
01:51:49
Speaker
Well, this is also when she's cutting his wings. ah She's distracting him by keeping him feeding. And yeah, she's smart enough, she had a knife in her pocket to start cutting his wings, which was ah but throwback to her whole clipping the wings story, right, at the beginning. Oh, I didn't even think about like that.
01:52:07
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Yeah. Oh, okay, yeah, i guess that makes sense. Yeah, okay. But yeah, because you see he has wings that are like made of a very thin material. But he feels the cuts, but he doesn't stop feeding because he's so intoxicated by the blood, and he just lets her keep cutting his wings open.
01:52:24
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But we also see the sheriff gets ah shot by Beverly. Yeah. And he's unable to finish, but his son, who's still, who understanding now what's going on grabs the lighter and sets the rec center on fire.
01:52:39
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And now everybody realizes there are there's nowhere to hide now. Yeah. but The sunrise is going to come and it's done. Because you burnt all the houses down. Yeah. Good plan.
01:52:51
Speaker
And this is when you see Beverly finally realize there's nowhere to go. Right? she's a She tries to dig a hole in the sand for herself before she fucking explodes. It's crazy. This bitch is just so evil, though. ah yeah Well, at least she gets to go to God now.
01:53:14
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As the sun begins to rise, we see the angel try to fly away, but he can't because of the holes in his wings.
Uncertain Fate of the Angel
01:53:22
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He did get lift off because remember the children saw him.
01:53:26
Speaker
Yeah. Cause they say, you think he can make it 30 miles? Before the sun gets him. Yeah. Yeah. And then we get a really good shot of Erin. She's bleeding out, but she's staring at the stars and, you know, it goes back to that conversation, right? Of going into the cosmos once you die. Yeah.
01:53:45
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So we get the last of it, which is Liza and Warren were watching from the rowboat. The sheriff and Ali praying on the beach together, right? As their Muslim prayer. Right.
01:53:56
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And Father Paul takes off his collar and asks Mildred to finally forgive them. And like the last scene is Liza turns to Warren and says she can't feel her legs, but she's happy about it because it means that it's sober.
01:54:12
Speaker
Overall, it was a good show. I was just very upset about the vampire stuff. Apparently, I mean, ladies and gentlemen, machine gun text of anger.
01:54:22
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It's like, it was insane. Like I said, I didn't even know it was about, till the day, i thought she was upset about the blood. I didn't know it was about the vampire. i had no idea.
01:54:34
Speaker
Stupid ass vampires. They gave you the science behind it. So I figured that'd be okay then. Yeah, it saved in it. But I think the reason I was texting you is because the initial, this is a vampire show pissed me off a lot.
01:54:49
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Well, it's better than it's a zombie show. That's true. But there's the occasional zombie show I've liked too. So. yeah I do recommend it delving into the psychology of the Catholic church.
01:55:03
Speaker
I thought that was super interesting as someone who was raised that way. Yes. Even though you're a fallen away Catholic. Yeah, pretty much. Yep. Although there could be a return. Who knows?
01:55:14
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Who knows? You know, you could see a miracle in front of you and then boom. Maybe, maybe not. yeah All right, y'all, this is the end of the episode.
01:55:25
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Appreciate all of y'all listening to the show. Until next time, goddammit.