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Build Your Own Romance Book | S2Ep9
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This week we each take turns building our own romance books! We list out which tropes we'd include, how steamy they'd be, and share our dream fan casts.
If you could build your perfect romance novel what would it include? Let us know on our instagram @BringYourOwnPod
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Transcript
Kayla's On-Air Persona and Banter
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Speaker
As if we normally don't well no cuz like she acts like she's the minute she hit record. She was like, hey Are you on right now?
The Romance Book Idea Excitement
00:00:28
Speaker
I think we established Kayla hates me so true
00:00:36
Speaker
supposed to say like that's such a ridiculous statement like there's just no point in giving it I shouldn't I shouldn't even have to force you though to say it should be automatic like no Kendra I don't hate you no you I'm Kayla
00:00:58
Speaker
And today we, today we are building our own romance books, which is so fun. We're very excited. Um, but before we do, ladies,
Current Reads and Drinks
00:01:10
Speaker
what are we reading? What are we drinking? Well, Kayla, why don't you go first? Kayla, stop saying it. Okay. Kayla, go first. Okay. Brandon, you have three chances. That was your first. Okay. Deal. For the episode.
00:01:25
Speaker
I just have water, but I did have a Coke Zero like 30 minutes ago, but I drank it before we started this episode. Huge win. Just for people to understand, over the weekend,
00:01:43
Speaker
all three of us were together. It was so fun. We had a great time in Colorado and none of us could stop saying slay, especially me. And Brandy limited me. No, I guess it was only me. I limited myself because I was like, okay, I'm only allowed this many slays per day. And then instead of saying slay, I just started being like, wow, huge win.
Colorado Weekend Memories
00:02:06
Speaker
We started singing because Kendra started saying slay like everything like to everything like slay mama's massive slay, big slay If you have ever been on lesbian TikTok, you know the hey mama I just like turned it into slay mama's mega slay huge ultra mega slay 3000 Everything is a slay
00:02:32
Speaker
Yeah. Anyway, so now we just say huge win. I mean, we laugh, but huge win for us. Anyway, what was I saying? Oh, yeah. I'm just drinking water right now and I am reading. I'm reading two books that came out today as of recording this podcast. I'm reading Caught Up by Liz Tom Ford. I'm only three chapters in, but I'm having a great time. And then I'm also finishing up. I literally only have like 30 minutes left.
00:03:02
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of Better Hate Than Never by Chloe Lease. And that's what I'm waiting. Amazing. Huge win for me. Thank you. Huge win. I had a cream soda for dinner, which I love the cream soda from Jersey Mike's. So I got like a little cream soda for dinner, but right now I just have water. That's all you had for dinner?
00:03:21
Speaker
No, I had a Jersey Mike sub for dinner. Oh, okay. You went to Jersey Mike's house for a cream soda. See, I'm just so fucking skinny. I just had like a little soda. No, but right now I just have water and then I'm currently reading, physically, The Probability of Everything by Sarah Everett, which is a book club book. It's YA, like end of the world. She's like 12.
00:03:50
Speaker
Um, so it might even be middle grade, I'm not sure, but it's a book club at work and it's really cute so far, not cute. Like it's very good so far. Um, the YA vibes is why I said cute. Like it's very much YA vibes. I'm having a great time. And then I'm listening to Devil's Daughter by Lisa Kleypas because I don't think I've talked about it on here. I am in my historical romance era and
00:04:13
Speaker
I'm trying really hard to spend almost no money on Audible for the rest of the year. So Libby has been my bestie for my historical romances. And that is the fourth book in the Ravenel series. By not spending any money on Audible, does that include like your monthly subscription? Like have you canceled that?
00:04:31
Speaker
No, I just bought okay. I went a really long time without buying a credit pack because I was using Libby and hoopla for yeah, definitely and then I just bought a five Credit pack and I'm gonna I honestly am hoping I can make that last at the end of the year
00:04:46
Speaker
I believe in you. You can do it. I think I can with like the types of books I'm loving
Character Dislikes and Reading Habits
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lately. And like I've been so blessed with some audio arcs recently. So you just know that you have to save two already for the Magnolia Parks audiobooks. If you actually I don't even know if you'll ever read them. So maybe they're on Libby. And also that makes me feel like throwing up thinking about listening to those things that made me
00:05:07
Speaker
physically. I can't wait. I'm so sorry, Kendra. I will let you talk in just a second. But I was talking with Izzy today about how she and I are just so in the same mindset about Christian and Daisy. She's like, I will not be touching that book ever again in my life. She's like, why would I do that to myself? I can't spiral like that. And I'm like, you're so me, Izzy. Quick question. I'll take five seconds to ask this, then we move on. Kayla just doesn't want me to speak today.
00:05:35
Speaker
Oh, my God. Anyway, Randy, if they do get a happy ending, will you then? Yes. Oh, 100 percent. That's why I feel like I can deal with some of the pain from the couple that we know is endgame in that series. Right. I know that I can deal with that pain because they're confirmed endgame. If Jessica tells me that, like, bitch, I will buy every copy of your book. So where's the fun in that? No, that's what I'm saying. Like the the first to read through the first time I'm going to read every other book that comes out in the series forever.
00:06:04
Speaker
But a reread, that sounds sick. But there are just so many amazing Daisy Christian moments you're just going to deprive yourself of. Yeah. Kendra, what are you reading?
00:06:17
Speaker
Wow, my turn.
Concert Camping Experience
00:06:18
Speaker
Okay. Um, so I am drinking a high noon pineapple. Not my favorite flavor, but you know, I didn't even know what that was until like, I feel like a few months ago, like I, maybe I knew I didn't register. Like that's what it was. That's so crazy. People are so weird.
00:06:36
Speaker
And then I am reading, um, well, I'm so, so since we all hung out this weekend, I didn't get a lot of reading done. I am still reading Meathaminedetos by Katie Katogno, but now I'm like in it. I'm 50 ish percent. Oh my God. It's so good. Is that one adult?
00:06:53
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Yeah, it's adult. And I've never seen any form of Pride and Prejudice, but I'm pretty sure it's a Pride and Prejudice retelling because like the guy's name is like his last name is Darcy. Her name is Lily, but her she's Italian. So her name, her full name is like Elisabetta. Sorry, Italian people. Yeah, it's called Meet the Minidados. It's so it's just like Katie Tigna just is a good writer. There was a moment where I was like, damn, I hate this character.
00:07:17
Speaker
And then we got into her head and I was like, Oh, that's why I hate her because she is me. And then I'm still, I don't know if I mentioned this last week, but I started listening to Fake Empire and I have like 10% left. Oh my God. The last like 20% of this book is so good. I'm just, I was scared that you were just going to say so bad. Like it's so good. Like I think like.
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It really like it carries the book on its back the last 20% not that the first like 80 is bad It's just like the first 20 so good
00:07:48
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The last one is so good. I just think like that book does like contemporary arranged marriage. I'm using air quotes right now, arranged marriage so well, because sometimes it's like, what the fuck? But in this one, it's like, like I buy it. I get it. Yeah. It was it's it's pretty good. It's on hoopla. So anyone that has hoopla, you can instantly listen. And yeah, that that's what I'm currently reading and drinking.
00:08:15
Speaker
Win. Thank you. Huge slay. I can say slay as much as I want. I don't know about these two. I don't know why they're depriving themselves. OK. Well, do we want to talk about our weekend together? Oh, yes. I want to do that. OK, Kendra, do you want to go then?
00:08:31
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Yeah, I would love, I would love to go. So basically, I'm not gonna talk shit on you. We all hung out this weekend to go to a concert in which we camped out for. We slept in my car. I peed in a parking lot.
00:08:48
Speaker
It was honestly so worth it because we had such a blast at this concert and that is just like such a once-in-a-lifetime experience for me like I will never do that ever again and I'm just so happy I did it with you guys like so special I kind of want to do it again just because like how close we were like it was It entirely depends on what I'm camping out for or who I'm camping out for.
Driving Antics and Humor
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She was a dude in Kansas City
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I can do it in Kansas City. Well, I feel like we can get up at like five o'clock in the morning and then go get some. We don't have to talk about this now. We'll see. Because I know you're like anti me right now, so we don't have to talk about it. And then the next day we all got in my car room room and drove up to Estes Park, which is where Rocky Mountain National Park is.
00:09:34
Speaker
Here in Colorado so funny story All weekend Kayla was being a little miss backseat driver. It was cute like I I'll admit it was so I was telling the story to my best friend and I was like into her I'm like, yeah, you know like I'm not the best driver and she's like, yeah, we know
00:09:52
Speaker
We're driving. That is crazy. Crazy. Kayla's like, you know, Kendra, watch out like this, this, this. And I'm like, oh, OK, whatever, whatever. And then leading up to this moment, I was not like that just to be so you were asking a lot, which like fair. Yeah. Like leading up to the moment that she's about. I mean, like, but it was like it was the bill. It was like.
00:10:12
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It was the buildup, right? So then we're like talking about Gilmore Girls because Kayla never has seen it. So Brandi's in the backseat, like literally giving her like episode one, scene one.
00:10:23
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intro interior like living breaking it down right and so um we're like talking about gilmore girls i don't like we're obviously like the relationships and everything and i'm driving yeah we just hope bigfoot like i'm having a great time um i'm not technically paying attention that much and all i hear is can you stop
00:10:48
Speaker
And I was like, yes. Oh my God. Can I just fucking drive? And I was like, well, you were accelerating. You were accelerating. I was like, I saw them. I was going to stop whatever. And then.
00:11:05
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um we like kept driving whatever like trying to go to this beautiful lake i was like um so anyways logan yeah like randy's like trying to change the subject i felt really bad for yelling at kayla so bad because i did in fact not see those people um
00:11:20
Speaker
I was just reacting to them yelling at me to stop. And then I was trying to save our lives. Oh, my God. I admitted it to them that I didn't see those people like a few minutes later. So fucking fun. No, not a few minutes later, like an hour later. I was like, yes. So actually.
00:11:41
Speaker
It was literally so, I was telling this story to Madison last night and before I could even say I didn't see the people, she was like, you didn't see the people. And I was like, no. Like she knew. Cause I'm not, I mean, I can admit now, I'm a good driver by myself. It's just the pressure of having other people in the car and these two are fucking passenger princesses. So they're used to just like, I've been in, I've been in the car with you and Daniel, we were in the parking lot and you yelled at us so bad.
00:12:06
Speaker
Because he wouldn't like go right away because you let another card go. Y'all are used to like, but I'm not used to having someone like in the car with me at all times. I was just like, okay. Anyways, such a sleigh of a weekend. Honestly, I love these two girlies so much. We had such a great time. But then Kayla told us that she won't come back to visit unless her husband's with her. I was like, why? I said that's probably gonna be the next time I come back.
00:12:35
Speaker
And I was like, why would a man, why would a man be there? But I mean, she just hates it so much. She's like, I can't ever visit them again without Jared. We were joking after we dropped Kayla off at the airport, we were driving back to our apartments and we were like, she's gonna go home and tell Jared that we refuse to let her eat vegetables. She's gonna have a whole long list of like, oh my God, babe, never let me go here again. They did this, they did that, they did that. I'm like, no, sorry.
00:12:58
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But it was so fun. Kayla, be honest, did you enjoy your time this weekend? Of course I had a good time. You just had to make up for yelling at me. So bad. I apologize. I know, I know, I know. I'm just being annoying. No, of course I had so much fun. It was a lot of fun. I can't wait to do it again in a couple of weeks, even though I'm pretty good.
00:13:21
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I know.
Concert Trip Plans
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Fucking work. Well, it's just because it's on a Wednesday. How lame is that? They're going to this concert again. The concert that we just saw. So I'm like, oh, you know, Kansas City, whatever concert. Very excited for.
Romance Book Brainstorming
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Kayla sent me a TikTok last night of A$AP Rocky and Rihanna's house. And I was like, it's like this mansion. And I was like, Oh, what is it like? Yeah. $12. Like, Oh, do you guys want to build our own romance books?
00:13:56
Speaker
yeah let's do it sure yay okay so yeah we're gonna build our own romance books and i want to start this off by saying that none of us are writers okay and if you are an author or an inspiring author and you feel inspired by any of these ideas you know where to find us hit our dms we'll gladly
00:14:14
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sell you this idea so yeah we just thought it would be so cool if we read a lot of romance and obviously we always I think any romance reader thinks like oh what would my romance book be even if you have no desire to write one so we thought it would just be a really fun idea if we went around the horn you know I sound like I'm in one of my meetings around the horn
00:14:36
Speaker
And we went around and shared our individual ideas for romance books. And like I said, if you think this is a good idea and you think it should be a book, hit us up. And yeah, we're just going to go around, say we're each going to say the tropes of our books, and then we're each going to take a turn
00:14:52
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like giving more detail and then we'll like do some fan casting fun at the end. Yeah. Just also to be so clear, like Kendra said, if any authors want these ideas, feel free to hit us up. But yeah, these are like skeletons. This isn't like we know every single detail. I will be making this shit up as we go. Okay. Who wants to say their tropes first? Mine are just like, if you know me,
00:15:19
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You're like fucking duh. So I'll do mine first. I will go into a little bit more detail when it's my turn to like give my skeleton of this book. But like
Brandy's Romance Idea
00:15:27
Speaker
this book has lived in my head for almost a year now and it's single dad. Shocking. Yes. Right. Whoa. Single dad, grumpy sunshine, age gap. She's a teacher. Those are those are my like four big tropes. Like she's a teacher. She is.
00:15:47
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. Who's the grumpy? We find that out later. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But those are my tropes, right? So like, if somebody was making my book into an Instagram post, the little arrows would point to the tropes. Single dad, grumpy sunshine, age gap, teacher FMC.
00:16:05
Speaker
Wow, hugely. I'll go. Mine would be second chance romance, single parent kind of. And I'm trying to think if there's any other like it's I guess like it's always been you.
00:16:23
Speaker
Maybe small town. No, I don't think I want to do small town. I don't really. I don't know. But that's that's the basics. It's like in terms of like hardcore tropes, not really no age gap. I was going to write a 17 year old, but Kayla told me no. Oh, my God. Oh, in Canada, in Canada, Canada. Sure. Toronto.
00:16:49
Speaker
Um, all right. So mine actually has like a little mix of what both of you guys already said. So mine is. Oh, you're going to say slay. I was going to say slay. Mine is also a second chance. Mine, however, also has past present timelines and it's not quite grumpy sunshine because I don't think the girl is grumpy.
00:17:16
Speaker
But the boy is like a golden retriever, dude. Well, I'll say this part when it gets into our summary, but those are like the main. Oh, and one bed. I forgot that one. There's one bed trope. I just decided that. There you go. So there. So there. Why not? Throw it in there. Knife to throat. Contemporary romance, knife to throat. That would be actually kind of concerning. A murderer?
00:17:46
Speaker
Hunting Adeline? The dark romance? Very dark romance. They're just cooking guys, like chill. Someone cooked here. Love that. OK. I bring you my skeleton now. Yes, go ahead. OK, so this like idea was born out of something that happened to me, not with the romance part, but I was telling my friend Haley about this thing that happened. And she she went, what a fucking great
00:18:16
Speaker
meet cute, that would be. And I was like, whoa. And then it's every like all the wheels start turning. Right. So you're saying that Haley is the is really the idea behind this. No, she just literally. Oh, my God. I'm going to.
00:18:29
Speaker
No, I know. I am a teacher and I previously had been teaching middle school in Los Angeles for many years. There was one day I was on the teacher leadership team. So there was one day there's like a ton of our admin was out for like meetings and shit.
00:18:48
Speaker
And they were like, we just need another person in the office. Can you sub as vice principal that day? And I was like, oh, sure, whatever. So I told my friend Haley, it was like, oh, whatever, blah, blah, blah. I'm subbing as vice principal today. This is so funny. And she was like, oh my God, somebody's dad's going to come in and yell at you thinking that you're the vice principal. So that's where all this was like the idea for this was born, right? So I am not, just to be very clear, I did not envision myself as the teacher when I was thinking about this at all.
00:19:18
Speaker
But so not autobiography. This is not an autobiography. This is not a self insert. Stephanie Meyer. This I just like when Haley said that would be such a great meet cute. Like we'll start a turning. Right. So that exact scenario. Right. There's a teacher who is just a teacher. She's not on the admin team, but she is stopping his vice principal that day.
00:19:40
Speaker
And a single dad comes in and just starts immediately yelling about his kid to this vice principal, not realizing that this is a sub, right? This is not the real vice principal. He's just like yelling, yelling, yelling. Won't let her get a word in edgewise for her to be like, I'm the wrong person. You're yelling at the wrong person right now. And he like storms out and he's such a dick. You know how like sometimes dropping sunshine crosses the line? He doesn't cross that line. He's not so much of a dick that you can't forgive him.
00:20:07
Speaker
But he's like, on behalf of his kid, like really yelling, right? And his kid is a problem child in the school. Like she has a lot of behavioral issues. And throughout the book, you like learn that that's like deeply rooted in mommy issues of like her mom abandoning her when she was at like a very
00:20:24
Speaker
at an age where that would really affect her, probably like seven or eight, right? Long enough to have built a bond with her mother. And then to like watch her mom walk away, choosing something else. I don't know what it is. Choosing a different life for herself than the one that their family had built. So now it's just her, it's just the kid and the dad and grandma, dad's mom.
00:20:43
Speaker
And so they're living with grandma and her dad is raising her as best as he can, but it is like a big city. It is expensive. He's working a lot. He's doing his best and his kid keeps getting in trouble for shit that he does not think that she should be getting in trouble for. So he comes in and yells at the vice principal, not actually the vice principal. Later they just have like a meeting and he realizes his mistake.
00:21:05
Speaker
He feels really bad. He apologizes. He decides to go on the PTO, which is like the parent-teacher organization, right? To like do fundraising because he feels like a dick, wants to give back to the school, close proximity. And I think like what would make this book so interesting for me to read is like if the teacher was some sort of mentor for the daughter, right? I'm picturing like older elementary or middle school, so like fifth, sixth, seventh grade-ish.
00:21:32
Speaker
Um, at a time where they could like really use like a young female presence in their life. And like the dad is like 36, 37 teachers, like 26, 27, 10 years. Right. And so like, she's just like trying to really be there for the kid and like give her that guidance.
00:21:50
Speaker
that she could use to like stop being such a problem at the school, like stop with the behavioral issues because the kid is really smart. She's just not applying herself because she's pissed and she wants the attention that she's not getting from her, like very, very busy dad and obviously her mother who abandoned her. And so yeah, that's my skeleton.
Kayla's Romance Idea
00:22:07
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Do you picture the relationship with the child and like the teacher being similar to how it was like with
00:22:14
Speaker
in a jam. Thank you. I could remember Jeannie and Shay Shay. Yeah. Do you picture it being similar to that? Because like that because that's kind of like a similar situation where like Jeannie was having.
00:22:27
Speaker
I don't even with having issues in school, like she couldn't like go to school and like be. Yeah, I think the difference is that like Jenny had ADHD. Right. Where I like I don't see I see this child like choosing to be a dick in my book, like because she's just like so pissed at the world and she's like really capable of doing all these things. And I think there's just like a building of self worth.
00:22:53
Speaker
with this kid, especially at the age of like middle school, when like most children's self worth is at fucking zero at that point in their life. So I like imagine that it's much more about like building a child up instead of like with Jenny, it was. I mean, I like I guess like similar. Jenny's just so much younger that she was. Yeah, I think she's like not aware of like how a lot of the stuff affects her, whereas like the kid in my book, I imagine them being completely aware.
00:23:19
Speaker
of like my mom chose something else. My dad is too busy for me. Like kind of thing. That's not the truth. Obviously we'll find out that that's not the truth. He's doing all this for her. Like the dad cares so much about her more than anything else in the whole world.
00:23:33
Speaker
Obviously, this is a romance. Like, what's the smartest thing that happens between that you would like to see happen between these two characters? I have thought about this a lot ever since I saw a TikTok video. They fuck outside her door. She has a ring camera and she has it recorded on her phone. She watches it back and like jerks off to them fucking.
00:23:50
Speaker
That's pretty good. Wow. The people at her security place are just going to be like, whoa, the FBI agent. Like, whoa. Yeah. Like the ring camera company is like, damn. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. But like I like imagine that or like they get to watch or something. And would you like there to be a third act breakup or no? You think it's necessary because sometimes I'm sorry. Some of these people I have people are like, oh, there should be no third act breakups. Some of y'all need to break up. Sorry.
00:24:20
Speaker
I think like a third act conflict, not necessarily a breakup. I, and like, I, I wanted desperately. I thought about this. Like I said, this book is like lived, quote unquote lived in my head for a year. I think the mom coming back is like the conflict, but it's not like other woman bullshit. It's like just with the kid.
00:24:42
Speaker
Like, yeah, like wanting to find a place in this child's life and like the teacher, female main character being like really insecure about that. Because I think throughout the whole book, she's also battling with like, am I doing what I thought I wanted to do with my life? And like having a lot of insecurity about her profession and her, you know, like what she's doing with her life and like late twenties, you know, midlife crisis kind of deal or quarter life crisis.
00:25:05
Speaker
So I think like she has just like a lot of insecurity about doing the right thing with her life. So when the mom comes back, she's like, what am I doing? Like inserting myself into these people, like into this family, into this life where they could be like functioning. But I think it's like really important to me that it's not other women bullshit. So like, I think the mom has to come back not wanting anything really from the dad. Like it has to just like look different. What if the mom has like a partner in that way?
00:25:32
Speaker
Yeah, and maybe she chose that family and then realized how bad she fucked up. And I think since the daughter has gone through so much growth, because if the mom would have come back before she built this relationship with the female main character teacher, she would have been like, fuck you. The daughter would have been like, get the fuck away from me. Never come back. I don't want to see your stupid fucking face again. But she's willing to thrive. The mouth on this kid. She's naughty. She's calling her teacher bitches. And she's like that kid in my mind.
00:26:03
Speaker
So I think she's willing to be like, we can go extremely, extremely slowly, because I've realized that my worth is not tied to our relationship as a mother and daughter. So we can try and go slow. So I think that's what the conflict would be, is the mom coming back and the teacher being like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, how does this? Was I a placeholder? What am I doing here kind of thing?
00:26:25
Speaker
Very nice. Somebody pick that up. Please lay. I like it. This feels like an, uh, this feels like
Kendra's Romance Idea
00:26:33
Speaker
an auction. Like, all right, up next. Yeah. One, one better two betters. Yeah. Okay. Um, I can go.
00:26:41
Speaker
So mine, like I said, is second chance single parent, but I want it to be to where the dad, like Brandy, like the dad would be the single dad, but the second chance is with like the mom of the kid. So I picture like they got pregnant maybe when she was like, I don't want her to be too young. Cause then I feel like that's just like a cop out. Like, Oh, you blame it on their young. Um, maybe she's like 25, 26, like,
00:27:12
Speaker
They were together for a long time and had their shit figured out. They got pregnant by surprise, but they're like, you know, we'll keep it, it'll be great. Well, they thought it was gonna be great. And then the baby comes and the mom just gets hit with the biggest wave of postpartum depression and anxiety to the point to where she's like, if I don't leave, I'm going to harm myself and this child and possibly other people.
00:27:39
Speaker
So she dips and she goes to live with, I'm assuming like her family lives somewhere else, like never really liked the guy or whatever. So she like disappears, pretty much disappears from the kid's life and goes to get her shit together. And I think she spends a lot of time like in inpatient and outpatient care, like just trying to figure it out. It's rough for a few years. I don't know how many years I would want her to be gone.
00:27:58
Speaker
But then she's like, oh, fuck, I just like walked away, rightfully so to save myself. But she like misses the love of her life. And she's like a little curious about her kid. So then you have the dad who's been like raising this kid by himself. And he's like her, obviously, that the girl just up and left. I just can't decide if she like leaves and doesn't tell him or she just like they talk about it. And then and then she dips.
00:28:25
Speaker
Cause I feel like it's hard. I feel like it'd be so hard to forgive her if he didn't know. Right. But I feel like that, like, I just feel like it's so like, it just, it's, it's a little more real. It's like, I don't know, like. Yeah. Cause I think that if, if he knew and they tried to talk it out, he would have been like, well, like, let, let's get you help. Let's do stuff together. Like, you know, you can go, I don't know, see a therapist, whatever. They would have like tried to figure things out together. He would have tried to help her.
00:28:50
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What if they never talked about it, but because he's the love of her life, he fucking knew like he knew he was watching her go through this. And then he often is bad because it's like I feel like on his end, he's probably like, I should have like he should have done more, you know, like he shouldn't have because this probably isn't like the first time that she's dealt with depression. It's just like the worst it's ever been. So he's sat with her through these times before. So he just thought, OK, she'll get through it like.
00:29:15
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It's fine, it's whatever. And so then yeah, homegirl comes back. I don't know how old the kid will be. I feel like the kid has to be kind of young in order for it to really work. No more than five to where, I feel like when you're five and you get, because essentially this would be a new parent, you're more easy to adapt. Because I see TikToks all the time, like, oh, you adopted me when I was, you became my stepdad when I was five and it was great. They're a little older, they just have more of an opinion on their parents' love life
00:29:45
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Whatnot. So, yeah, the mom would come back. I don't know how she gets back to the city that they're living in. And we're going to set it in San Antonio because I feel like it's a great city to be set in. I don't know how she gets back there, but she does. And I think she just like stays with her friend and is trying to like just at least be in the same city as them. I don't think she goes back expect like she misses the guy.
00:30:07
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and would love to be with him but that's not I think her main priority I think she just wants to like make amends and not really want to pursue anything romantic right away but then like obviously he's like oh my god the love of my life is back and he's just like so sweet I mean he's heartbroken I think a lot of his friends don't want him
00:30:23
Speaker
pursuing this again like he was kind of I don't know forced is like the right word but like forced like become a single dad and he thought he would be doing it they'd be doing it together but he yeah they just find their way back to each other and I think his family is really pissed and I would just love to explore that
00:30:41
Speaker
of like the mom being the one to come back. Because I think so often like in single parent romances or like even secret baby romances, it's always the guy coming back into the picture. I just think it'd be so cool if it was like the mom because like moms leave all the time. There's so many people with mommy issues and they just dip. So I don't know. And I also really love the idea of forgiveness. Like what is the worst thing you can do and can you come back from that? Is he like?
00:31:11
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equal parts mad and relieved to see her when she comes back or is he just happy or is he just mad? I think it's I can't picture him being mad I picture him happy and shocked because I think he's afraid that she's gonna like dip again I picture him like being one of those that like tried searching for her own social media and like everything
00:31:33
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but she just like didn't, I think she just like went completely dark. And I don't know if that was like her own decision to go dark or like maybe the, her family that she's like staying with when she goes away. He's just been like searching for her everywhere. Like, you know that I'm going to sound like such a Swifty, but you know that in what song is it? It's on folklore, but she's like, I, something like I would look for you in like every grocery storyline, like,
00:31:58
Speaker
stuff like that, it's been him for the past few years. And I think he would like try dating, but nothing would work out. Like I almost want him to be kind of celibate. I love them. That happens in books. Like I don't want somebody to start crying. I love, I mean, I feel bad for the girl, but like, I love that. Like
00:32:15
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I think his friends really want him to start dating. Maybe he even has. No, because I also, I don't want a girl best friend. I was thinking that, but then I was like, I also don't want other women drama because I feel like I want the best friends to be very protective of him and apprehensive of her coming back. Yeah. And I think it'll be great, especially if they had a friend group. And so the baby mama was friends with everyone. So not only does she have to get back,
00:32:39
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Yeah, she has to like never understand why he wasn't like so fucking pissed. Yeah, because they're all mad. And so then like she not only has to make amends with like her ex and her kid, but also like these friends who like, I think were really good friends. She just like, she just dipped.
00:32:55
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I think, yeah, I also, I saw a TikTok of this woman explaining how she was friends with this guy. Like they were never mentally involved. Like she was straight and he was gay. They were really good friends. And then he was like, girl, like you need to like change your life. Like let's move to New York together. Like it'll be great. He's like, yeah, like, don't worry about like you can stay with me. And then he got hit with a wave of depression so bad. And he was like, you have to leave this apartment.
00:33:18
Speaker
And she just picked up her entire life and thought she was going to be able to move with him. And she then had to move out and find her own way and also find a job and had to slum it on people's couches. And then at the end of the video, she revealed that
00:33:35
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once her friend came out of that, like they were able to talk it through and she forgave him. And it was so interesting to see the comments of people being like, I would never forgive a person if they did that to me. Like, blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, she obviously like loves that person very much and understood that they were going through like a mental health crisis. Like, and it worked out for her because then somehow, someway she landed her dream job. So I don't know. It's just I like a redemption story tied in with mental health because, yeah, people are just so black and white with a lot of those issues. Yeah. But yeah, that's my story.
00:34:05
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So obviously romance book, two things. Do you have a third act conflict in mind? And also what is the hottest thing that they do? Okay. Third act conflict, I think would involve her like being tasked to watch the kid for the first time by herself and like panicking. And she like does something. So like the kid like hurts him, hurts themselves or something, but like nothing life threatening, like just a kid being a kid, but she like panics and it was like, maybe I'm not built out for this. And it would be just them.
00:34:35
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talking it out and him reassuring her like no like you're like the first time you should have seen her the first time she like did something and I panicked too like it's okay like I'm gonna be here for you we just have to rely on each other that way because yeah they wouldn't break up um and then Smut I think this would be a slow burn you would get like nothing from her but I think it would be nice from him I love it like they jack off to
00:35:00
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her. Yeah. And he's like, I've been doing this for fucking years and now she's back so I have a new image. And then the as far as smut, it's so funny I actually this now I'm like, Oh, I since I picture them like they were either like high school or college sweethearts. So I picture them just kind of like
00:35:22
Speaker
fucking in a place that they used to do like in a car somewhere and like a significant like place so like if they were high school sweethearts they like fucking the parking lot of like they conceived the baby yeah like something like that like i i think that would be i think that would be really hot and then obviously there'd be a breeding kink involved maybe some anal
00:35:43
Speaker
Maybe. Yeah, it's not a book without that. Yeah. And I would think he's been celibate, but she has not been. I think that's really interesting, too. But she's just been fucking to like it over him. She's always thought about him the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, it was a very angsty, emotional book. That's like my bread and butter ship. Yeah. Nope. Again, that book is now available for sale. You want to. Is it OK? Yeah.
00:36:10
Speaker
I would love for it to be on KU as long as the KU is hooked up to my bank account and again we can discuss it in details.
Detailed Romance Plot Discussions
00:36:18
Speaker
I should hire Gianna's ghostwriter.
00:36:28
Speaker
okay i'm like nervous for mine because like what if it sucks so as i said this one is kind of like a it's a second chance but it's like a fling and then like later you know like they were so i call those first chance take two
00:36:43
Speaker
Okay. Oh, cute. Well, okay. Let me explain. Okay. Yeah. This girl is in her, uh, senior year of college. Okay. So her and her girl, just listen. Oh my God. No, I was, I was, I was like, well, she's like, she's like 21, 22. Okay. She's in her senior year of college, her and her group of girl.
00:37:06
Speaker
Not 17. Sorry. Sorry. Not 17. No, if you start if you're in your senior year of college when you're 17. Wow. You must be a genius. Yeah. Oh, yes. Anyway, she and her best gal pals decide to have hot girl summer in Europe. OK, like everybody does. I feel like so they go there. I don't I don't exactly know where they are. They're all over the place. Gallivanting.
00:37:35
Speaker
but they have like a whole month there, okay? Like their second weekend, they go to this bar and our protagonist meets this guy, okay? And they like, you know, have a nice little hookup, you know? They have a little fun together, whatever, okay? What base do they get to? At least second. Okay. Yeah. No oral?
00:37:59
Speaker
Is it in public? It's in a bathroom. I'm making this up as I go. I don't know. You're asking me questions when I'm deciding on the spot. Handsome in the bathroom. Sounds great. Have you heard of an OTPCR? Oh my God. Can I move on? Sorry. What's OTPCR? What is it? Over the pants cockroat. Over the pants cockroat. I will accept that. Can you come in his pants? Sure.
00:38:25
Speaker
I love that you guys are helping me with this. Anyway, no, no, no, you are so fine. It's fun. Okay. Okay. So it doesn't turn out to be a one time thing because the next day that the girls go to like lunch, dude walks by the cafe and is like, Hey girl, like in his best European accent. I don't know. Again, I don't know where he's from yet. I haven't decided. Is he Portuguese? Hello girl.
00:38:54
Speaker
What was that? Where is that from, Kendra? You want to explain? Where was that from? Which country? I'm picturing him like a multicultural king. So, you know, a little Italian, a little whatever. I was aiming for Italian. I'm so sorry. We keep interrupting you. Go, go, go, go, go. Anyway.
00:39:15
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Um, he ends up sitting with them at lunch. They, they have a great time. They're actually like talking this time, you know, not just, you know, with their lips and their hands. They're actually talking like with their mouths and they're getting to know each other. They like each other. They have this fling. Okay. That lasts a couple of weeks while she's in Europe. She like spends as much time as she can with this dude.
00:39:32
Speaker
They share a lot of their aspirations, their hopes, their dreams. He wants to know what she wants to do after college. And she chose this really safe, pretty basic degree that she's graduating with. But she has really big dreams, but it's just not realistic for me, so I'm just not even going to do it.
00:39:54
Speaker
He's very much an adventurous, take a leap of faith type of dude. She's more like a shy, reserved type person. So he also has these like, you know, a bunch of dreams and aspirations. He's just more willing to take the leap. He kind of encourages her to do that. And so they kind of make this agreement that once she goes back to the States, because they know that this is going to
00:40:16
Speaker
and even though like you know in their heads they like don't want it to they like think they're falling in love with this person but like they're not gonna voice that they kind of make this agreement and they're like okay you're gonna go back to the states and promise me that you will do again I don't know what her dreams are I haven't figured that out yet this is just a skeleton she's gonna go back to the stage she's gonna work on that
00:40:35
Speaker
He's going to do the same thing while he's here in Europe, okay? And then, okay, so they part ways. I haven't quite figured out, like, if they exchange contact information or what yet. We'll figure that out later. So she comes back home. She gets started on what she wants to do. She graduates. She's so excited. Like zest for life, right, after coming back.
00:40:55
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from Europe. But then you guys know, same with Kendra. I love angst and sadness in a book. I don't know who it happens to yet or how it happens, but probably like a parent, a guardian, whoever gets terribly, terribly sick. And she has to now live full time with this person. She can't do what she wants to do.
00:41:21
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Okay. So she now is living full time with this person at like some work from home or like a desk job somewhere that she just absolutely hates. But she's living with, with this guardian full time to take care of them. And this lasts for like five years. Okay. So she's with this person for, or maybe like, maybe that's too long of a time. I don't know yet. Haven't decided. Um, she's, she's with this person for years. Um, European boy.
00:41:47
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Whatever dreams he has, again, I don't know what they are. He ends up in the States. They somehow meet. They'll have to be in a big city like New York or Chicago or LA in order for this to happen. No, not Kansas. It makes sense if it was in a small town. But they meet again and he's like, oh my God, I did.
00:42:06
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Or I'm doing whatever my dream was again. Don't know what that is. And he's like, how are you doing? And she's like, um, I haven't done anything, you know, or just, you know, it's a very sad conversation. Basically, I mean, spoiler alert, the Guardian does die. During the book or before they meet up again? During the book, probably, because I also envision like,
00:42:31
Speaker
him like meeting the guardian and like or get parent whoever and having like just nice little like moments and she sees them together and like sick I don't know I just like envision like I don't know I think that that would be really sweet to see like again you guys know I like sad angsty things and so I just yeah like that but yeah and I
00:42:56
Speaker
parent or guardian whoever does die eventually and so like the book kind of touches on grief this will be like more towards the third act as far as like whether or not there's like a third act conflict I similarly I don't think that well yeah similarly to Kendra I don't think they'll necessarily be like a breakup per se I think it'll be just I think it'll be a slow burn um and I think yeah like that person dying being like a big piece of of that uh third act
00:43:23
Speaker
And then like them getting together and having their happily ever after at the end is like, that's that's part of it. It's not it's all building to that, really. I picture it a love in books where it's like this like second shot, first time, first time, whatever that Kendra cute little name called it. Like we're going to get to see them fuck in the bathroom in Europe. And then we have to wait. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Like I
00:43:53
Speaker
Yeah, even though in the beginning the girl is kind of shy, reserved, she's still excited about possibilities of life. Whereas when you see her years later, she's sad and just depressed. Even though she loves this person that she is caring for, she feels stuck, trapped. And so I kind of envision him when he comes back,
00:44:18
Speaker
because he's still excited about everything, you know, about his life, whatever. And he wants to know all about her and blah, blah, blah, and remembers all the times that they had. And she's like so different and again, just sad and depressed. And so he's like, I think trying to help bring back different pieces of her that she lost, you know, along the way. And so not that he like fixes her because I don't want that, but you kind of get what I'm saying. So that's kind of how I picture that. So how are they fucking?
00:44:49
Speaker
Just the important parts. God, that's such a. See, I've I didn't even like we got the bathroom. So that's yeah. The bathroom is like that'll like start with the bank. I'll hit people with that one. Yeah. And then like they'll be like, oh, my God, this is going to be so great. And then they won't get anything to like.
00:45:07
Speaker
78%. No, seriously. I envision them having sex around that point, but they're not together yet. Kisi gets really frustrated with her afterwards. Maybe she freaks out or something, and then a guardian dies, or maybe they've already died. I don't know yet. And then they have another lull while she's getting over that. And then at the end, we have another one where they get actually together, together.
00:45:32
Speaker
As far as what actually occurs during those scenes, I don't know. Give me an idea. Something with like, cause I feel like if she's on European vacation, like in Europe, people become such big foodies, you know? So I think it's something involving like something edible that you can also use during sex. I bet. He cream pies in her mouth.
00:45:58
Speaker
Well, you can't really it can't be a cream pie because I said in her mouth, but he puts a lot of cream in her mouth and then. Wow. I was going to say, like, they're definitely like baking, giving something, giving red with the whipped cream. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I think cream would be really good. Oh, yeah. I like baking something like a family recipe.
00:46:16
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Yeah, wait, he's a really good cook because he grew up in Italy or wherever. And she's like arguing. Oh yeah, whatever. Hello ladies. But they're like arguing over whether ready whip or like something store-bought versus homemade is better. And he's like, I'm going to show you how much better it is homemade and then he makes something rubs it all over. Maybe they're like, they're doing something with like a turkey and he's like spanking the turkey.
00:46:45
Speaker
He's like, you know what else I can spank? That pussy. And then they...
00:46:49
Speaker
And then he smacks her pussy. Oh, I love that. Do you guys remember that? I mean, it was an older video before this, but it became pretty popular on Vine, that name of that woman who's baking bread. And she's like slapping the bread and she's like, who's your daddy? Who's your daddy? Or like, you know, the, uh, the macaroni in a pot. What if they're making like, yeah. He's like, you know what that's like? Yeah.
00:47:16
Speaker
The sound takes me back five years ago. Wow. Actually, you know what I was picturing? This is completely not like what we were talking about. But from scratch, you remember the like the first couple episodes when they were falling in love while she was so young in Italy? That sounds like oh my God.
00:47:33
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That's what I remind you. Can I name a book that I think each of our books like would be compared to? Yeah. OK, so Brandy, obviously I thought of like funny feelings
Comparing Book Ideas to Existing Themes
00:47:42
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because like just a single dad like trying his best, like, but Hazel wasn't a problem child, so that would be like the differentiating things like funny feelings meets like in a jam meets whatever else. Well, you're going to say for mine. What what am I going to say for yours? Simple.
00:48:00
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Well, yeah, because of the guardian thing. Yeah. But yeah, I was going to say, yeah, on your slip. Yeah. And then for mine, I was thinking of reminders of him by Colleen Hoover. But I mean, she she went away for a complete opposite. Totally different. Yeah. Yeah. And had that baby in jail. That's not a spoiler, by the way. I know nothing about that book.
00:48:23
Speaker
Brandy, honestly, I think it's one of my favorite Colin Hoover books. I think it's really good. It just came out at, I think, a wrong time, because it was at the peak of her hype. So obviously, people are shitting on her left and right, but I think it's a really good book. Maybe. No, I'm dead ass. I think you'd like it.
00:48:40
Speaker
I love all of our books. Somebody should definitely write all of them. And if you would like to write these books, yeah, head on down to the app. Bring your own pod. Instagram. Do you guys have any like people in mind, any fan casts for your people? I just picture like a big bearded man for mine, like big and like thick, like not like.
00:49:05
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Not like, doesn't have to be like a ripped thick, but like, I'm like thick. I want him to have big thighs and like a soft middle. You guys know who I want from mine? Henry Cavill.
00:49:18
Speaker
No. Wow. Who's a big weirded man? No. Travis Kelsey? Oh my God. No. What the fuck? How am I supposed to... Oh, Ross McDonald. Yeah. Yeah. The basis of the 1975, if you are unfamiliar. He could totally be Italian if he was more tan. I feel like Italians look more like Mattie Healy than...
00:49:42
Speaker
Wow. What? OK, he could find that Ross can be Portuguese, Greek. OK. Oh, Greek. Yeah. Mm. Greek. What's a Greek accent? I like Greek.
Authors Who Could Write Their Ideas
00:49:55
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I'm OK. Do you know any Greek words? Percy Jackson.
00:50:04
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What about you, Kendra, who are you fan casting for either character? This is really hard. My female main character is Daisy Edgar Jones. I picture her as every female main character that I read. Like when it's a blonde female main character, I picture Daisy Edgar Jones when she was blonde and when it's a brunette, when she's brunette. Like she's a good one. She is. I'm so in love with her. And she like would look the right age to be like, you know, right.
00:50:34
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I want like, just because I am obsessed with this actress, I think she's so good. Her name is Dominique Fishback. I think she's like stunning. She was just in that, I didn't watch it, but I know she was in a Transformers movie recently. This is what she looks like. She was in, and then she was just in that show swarm that was like based off of Beyonce. It's like the beehive. I didn't watch it because I just,
00:51:00
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didn't watch it but I think she's a phenomenal actress and like since this is so angsty I think she would carry that really well for the guy
00:51:08
Speaker
I don't know. OK, this is like such a huge I think he's like too old to be the guy. But oh, fuck, let me look up his name because he's from Hymet, your father, because I want to keep him employed. He's so fucking hot. Oh, I don't know how to pronounce his name, but he played Sid on Hymet, your father, and I really don't want to butcher it. Can we see him? Yes, he's so hot. Oh, he is hot. And like on Hymet, your father, he's just like he's just.
00:51:37
Speaker
I'm so mad that that show got canceled! Because he had such a long future ahead of him, and I hope he still does. I think he's also on a movie on Netflix, something with weddings.
00:51:48
Speaker
But yeah. Well, I guess I know I need to also. Also, I don't really watch Netflix like that anymore. So I'm like, I still have an Netflix account. I logged in when Brandi and Kayla were here and we were watching Homecoming Web Beyonce. And I was like, oh, I'm surprised they didn't kick me out. That's like, Kayla, who's your girl? I don't know. Is it you? I don't know. Hey, it means I can be with Ross. Sure. You saw the women I have questions on and see if any of them stick for you.
00:52:14
Speaker
Renee Rapp. Audrey Plaza. Sabrina Carpenter. Sabrina Carpenter. She's so hot. I have a list on my phone. Renee's got a list of girls. Not just girls. I have a crush on. SZA, Dua Lipa.
00:52:36
Speaker
Litten Meester. I think she's a little too old, but I love Litten Meester. She should be too old. It's got to be somebody that was young enough to be a senior in college and also like in their late 20s. Elizabeth Olsen. Oh, Elizabeth Olsen. I cast her for everything. Elizabeth Olsen and Liz Gillies are like my go-to white women to cast her for. She played the grief so well. Elizabeth would. Oh, she really would. She would. She would. I mean, they would make it into a series and then it'd be Emmy nominated. Oh, my God. Sorry for your loss. Anyway, that's a good show.
00:53:07
Speaker
Even though she's a little too old to be a senior Yeah, yeah, like we can imagine them at any age, you know, I mean like when she was okay Yeah, I can't think of like an actual man that would fit my wants. No man lives up Oscar Isaac Big enough I can beat him
00:53:27
Speaker
He's not tall enough. He's not like traps Kelsey, like a slightly less attractive. Chris Evans is like the vibes that I'm wanting. You know what I mean? Just like a big you want him a little ugly. I mean, just like Chris Evans, just like too pretty. You know, I like like more rugged. Like what about what about Chris Pine? Because I feel like he's like a rugged.
00:53:50
Speaker
I want to be bigger bearded. I want a lumberjack. Chris Paine can be bearded. Yeah, he's had... Yeah, that's true. Sure. I'll stick with that until I can think of something better. So in case you missed us saying it earlier, if you would like to write these books, just let us know. Yeah. And if you have an idea for a romance novel and you want to share it with us... We desperately would like to hear it. I think every romance reader probably has a lot cooking. And I will say...
00:54:20
Speaker
because I have a lot of other ideas, but I didn't want to share them on this podcast because I want to keep them to myself just in case I do want to pursue them. So if you think your idea is worth value, maybe don't. I mean, I think all of these ideas are worth value. I would love if someone actually was like, yeah, girls, let's write these.
00:54:37
Speaker
If you think your idea is worth value and you want your name on it, you should keep it to yourself. I mean, tell your friends, but write it. Yeah. Don't tell, don't tell us. Cause then I might steal it. I won't do that. I won't do that. Oh, wait, wait. Is there an author who you think could write this right now? Like who's tone and like you'd be like, yeah, I would read it. Abby.
00:54:59
Speaker
For you? Yeah. For me, before you even said you were comparing 20 feelings, I like pictured Tara writing this. Yeah. Kendra? I don't know. I don't know. I asked you guys questions. I don't have the answers to. I don't know. Like I say I say Abby because she's already written a protagonist who has been a caretaker and like in the beginning of the book, like when my protagonist is like.
00:55:25
Speaker
more like happy and funny and carefree she just writes those moments really well too and grief and loss and everything like that she writes all that really super well too so that's why abby okay so i have two options the first ava walder just because i think she would tow that line really well like the angst like
00:55:45
Speaker
Yeah. Or Jessa Hastings, because Jessa Hastings knows, she just, she already knows how to write and doing like something that is, that others deem unforgivable and have them work their way out of it. So I think she would do such a good job of writing that. So, hey, Jessa girly. I know you're busy writing Magnolia Parks universe. You're nowhere near done. But if you want to talk, I'm around.
00:56:09
Speaker
Yeah, I think I think the reason that I said Tara is just that like I think she can write. I mean, I've only read it in funny things because her other two books aren't single parent. But like the way that she wrote Myers relationship with Hazel and funny feelings just like. I felt that so deeply like his like worry and love and like never feeling like he's doing enough for her. So like from that aspect is my book is definitely dual POV. So that aspect, but then also like
00:56:39
Speaker
Like you were saying, Kayla, like young, like midlife crisis vibes. Like, I feel like Tara could do that really well because she did it with Lauren. So, yeah, that's why. So those authors, if you want to hit us up. Yeah. Dams are open.
Episode Wrap-Up and Social Media Shoutout
00:56:55
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