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Jedi Trials: The Semifinals | Scott Carasik vs. Dan Kotnik

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The road to the championship runs through the semifinals!

After surviving the opening rounds, Scott Carasik and Dan Kotnik return to battle for a spot in the Jedi Trials finale. With questions spanning every corner of the Star Wars galaxy—from movies and TV to Legends and deep-cut trivia—only one contestant will earn the right to compete for the title of OPE's ultimate Star Wars trivia champion.

Who keeps their cool under pressure? Who crumbles when the timer starts? And who punches their ticket to the championship match?

May the Force be with them... they're going to need it.

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Intro

Introduction to Star Wars Trivia Series

00:00:55
Speaker
and Welcome back to another episode of Ope. We are coming back to the Star Wars trivia. i keep forgetting what we were going to call it. I think it was the Jedi Trials or the Boonta Ope classic. ah I think last last episode, David and Alex both thought that the Jedi Trials was maybe a little bit better because you felt like you were going through the child ah trials to become the the master of Star Wars trivia. So maybe that's what we'll stick to. Maybe it's not. Who knows?
00:01:26
Speaker
I don't know.

Semifinals and Participants

00:01:28
Speaker
um This week is the semifinals. As I explained to these guys before the ah we started recording, because ah i've been saying this last few episodes, it's like herding cats when it comes to getting everybody scheduled and and matchups all in.
00:01:44
Speaker
But we have to skip a couple of people. We're going to just jump right into the semifinals. We've got Dan Karasik, or Dan Karasik, Scott Karasik and Dan Kotnick.
00:01:55
Speaker
There's too many K sounds in this stuff.
00:02:00
Speaker
But, gentlemen, it's good to have you back on here. Scott, we were talking a little bit about it, Braves baseball. I look forward to seeing you on here because I don't get to talk to many people about Braves baseball.
00:02:11
Speaker
But, you know, how we feeling today about this matchup? You're semi-finalists. Do you want trash talk? I'm not going to trash talk because I'm surprised I made it this far. so I put the Darth Scar there as as as a yeah was' the word sarcastic kind of thing. like I'm the guy, I'm the evil empire, come take me down, but no.
00:02:38
Speaker
Same. i went with I went with Dan Solo because I thought I was going to be here for one round.
00:02:45
Speaker
And, you know, we did because of that one round, which was the first episode in this thing, we had to scramble and come up with different ways for so we don't end up with any ties and tiebreakers and all that stuff. So, Dan, this is your chance. How you feeling about today's matchup? Do you want to talk any shit to Scott or you just want to let things play out like they were?
00:03:06
Speaker
Oh, God, no. Joe, like, I... like it's that i i felt I fell back asswards into this here, so i'm just i'm just happy to I'm just happy to be on the team at this point.
00:03:21
Speaker
Well, like I said, it... it With the matchups that we had, they kind of fell into each other and they've been good matchups so far. um you know i'm I'm happy that everybody was able to get that everybody that we could get scheduled could fit into their schedule, so I appreciate you guys being here.

Trivia Questions and Categories

00:03:37
Speaker
Once again, to go over some of the rules, it is 10 questions each, back and forth. you guys pick from the categories i ask you the question you got 30 seconds to answer it you can give me your answer if it's wrong and you still got time on the clock you can try again but once 30 seconds is up it's done unless it's one of those questions that like dan messed up in the first episode where you know it was so easy that that there should have been no issues and then quite a bit yeah was it like who played han solo
00:04:14
Speaker
No, it was, uh, what animal did Obi-Wan Kenobi imitate to scare off the Tusken Raiders when he said, one pissed me off there.
00:04:25
Speaker
there So, but it's fair. i don't think they ever mention it in the original trilogy what the animal actually is, but you do kind of find out pretty quick what it is throughout the rest of the stuff.
00:04:38
Speaker
So if it's something egregious like that, then maybe I'm going to end the time and say, nope, you're you're just getting that one wrong, and and what we'll go from there. I do have to say that I put that clip up on TikTok, and somebody did call Dan out on that saying,
00:04:54
Speaker
didn't everybody know it was a crate dragon oh in my defense in my defense he puts his arms up like this and go and starts wiggling and them around like it's an octopus i've seen one crate dragon in my life and he didn't go like this see i would i would have tr i might have gotten dings would have been like i thought it was called the crete dragon but Even that would have been like, it's mix up.
00:05:27
Speaker
That's a small mix up. That's not, I don't know what it is. I froze on the, I froze like, but like a penalty kick. I just skied it. I'm, I was, At least it didn't say it was like a banter or anything.
00:05:38
Speaker
Yeah, RathlinPNW said, a Krayt Dragon. I thought everyone knew this. oh ah Yes, we we got called out on that one and all that stuff, so maybe we'll have another one of those moments on on this episode. Who knows, but...
00:05:59
Speaker
we did I did do a little bit of a change up and I did try to explain this the best I could to these gentlemen beforehand. There are still gonna be five categories and the categories are as follows. In another galaxy far, far away,
00:06:14
Speaker
which is Star Wars references in other TV or movies. Idiot's Array, with which is just anything that covers from a New Hope to... um I don't think it quite covers to Ahsoka Season 1, but it does cover some of The Mandalorian and things like that.
00:06:38
Speaker
So it's just a a wide array. Who said that? I give you the quote, you give me the person who said it. Who played me?
00:06:49
Speaker
i give you the character, you give me who played that character. Now again, with this one, it's ah it's a little bit different because I know there are different possibilities on who played certain people.
00:07:01
Speaker
We don't want the... the ah So the example I use is if i give you Din Djarin, I don't want Brendan Wayne or the other gentleman that's the stuntman in there. I would be looking for Pedro Pascal. so But if there's more than one person who plays them in media, so you know obviously there are some people... Yeah, Vader, there's multiples. ah For everyone that you give me that I have correct that have down here that that is a correct answer, I'll give you the points for it. So if there's three possible points and you get all three of them, then you got the points on that.
00:07:41
Speaker
oh And then the last one is the what the heck was that and this is where the change comes in. That one is going to be our wager question. So if like Scott dealt with when he faced off against my co-host Mike Kawano got way ahead of Kawano and Kawano needed a way to get back into this, this would be the way you could do it. If, let's say it was seven to three, you want to wager all three points and go with what the heck was that? These are creatures in the Star Wars universe and they're not humanoid creatures. They are rideable creatures, food creatures, you know, things that aren't like ah ah a Wookiee or an Ewok or Rodian or Twi'lek or anything like that. These are animals that you would see in the background or as like pets or something like that.
00:08:30
Speaker
But you would choose that one, wager how many points you want to wager that you have so it's up to the points that you have. So if you get three points, you can only wager up to three points.
00:08:41
Speaker
You get the question right, you get the three points. If you get it wrong, you are you are going to lose those points. So it could be either or, either way.

Underdog Narrative and Movie References

00:08:53
Speaker
scott since you won last time a big victory i should say i'm gonna let dan go first so because he's he's he's kind of he needs all the help he can get um But I tried i kind of tried to bracket these kind of like a March Madness thing. So you you got your rankings and Scott's a little would be a little bit more ranked because of the the size of victory he had. ah Dan, and you've barely pulled it off. So every every everything you keep saying just makes it feel like, well, we want Dan to feel included. so we to feel included Dan you know that's that's the whole point here we we bring in all types and let the make them feel included it's like an old school college football schedule for me is what I'm hearing
00:09:52
Speaker
so Dan you are up first make ah your selection Okay, um I'm going to start with one that I really enjoyed last time. I'm going to go with In a Galaxy Far, Far Away.
00:10:08
Speaker
I enjoyed this one too, and just to let you know, before the last episode, I did add some more in here, so there are going to be even more to select from. Or I mean, even more possibilities here.
00:10:26
Speaker
okay
00:10:29
Speaker
And I laugh because I can picture this in my head because this is one of my favorite Star Wars-ish movies. What is the name of the coffee shop Windows Meets Rogue Leader at and at in the movie Fanboys? Let me read that again since I messed up.
00:10:44
Speaker
What is the name of the coffee shop Windows Meets Rogue Leader at in the movie Fanboys? 30 seconds starts now.
00:10:54
Speaker
I had every intention of watching that movie, Joe, because when we were doing watching stuff, we were going to have you on to do fanboys and then we stopped. I've never, I have, I still haven't seen it. So co okay. So coffee shop, it's gotta be something.
00:11:11
Speaker
It's gotta be something like a coffee pun related. Um, final guess, uh,
00:11:24
Speaker
i don't know i don't know uh all right time is up java the hut yeah fuck i was damn that's a good one good name i like the fun it's it's it's such a funny scene i would love to tell you about it but if you haven't seen it i don't want to ruin it because it is very funny um but yes if you guys probably had If you haven't seen Fanboys and you are a Star Wars fan, make sure you watch it.
00:11:55
Speaker
I know. on my list It's very funny. it very very It's got Jay Bruchel. He's Windows.
00:12:07
Speaker
It has Dan... Oh, I can never think of his last name. The boy?
00:12:16
Speaker
oh yeah yeah uh then he's been in the vogler that's it vogler very funny um Then there's a couple of guys that i I know them from other things, but I can never think of their names. The one is played the kid in Jungle to Jungle, the movie with Tim Allen. Oh, shit. Yeah. um He's one of the other characters. And then the other one I've seen in other things, but it's hard to describe him, but it's a very funny movie. And then it's got ah ah Kristen Bell in it.
00:12:48
Speaker
so Yeah, I need to watch this. Which feels very out of place because Kristen Bell probably doesn't belong in that movie. You would think so, but she plays it perfect.
00:13:01
Speaker
all right. Anyway, that's the end of my ranting. That is question one. Scott, it is your choice. I'm going to in another galaxy as well. Okay.
00:13:15
Speaker
Let's see here. Try to say something so there's not dead air on the situation. all right.
00:13:25
Speaker
java the hut what's another star wars coffee shop name that we could do see i was trying to i was trying to think of something like darth bean or something like i i got stuck in just trying to like brainstorm java the hut was such a layup the bean delorean would be fun there it is there there'd be one that you could do with like boba fett because like boba tea boba tea yeah there's something there Yeah, so anyway, I will be honest, I have never watched this movie, but it is by one of my favorite directors, and I know the situation here. so
00:13:59
Speaker
Hooper X, Holden, and Banky have an argument about Lando Calrissian's role as a strong black role model in sci-fi and fantasy in what movie? 30 seconds starts now.
00:14:15
Speaker
what were the names hooper x holden and banky yes holden and banky have an argument about lando calrissian's role as a strong black role model in sci-fi and fantasy in what movie god 10 seconds
00:14:37
Speaker
i'm gonna be honest with you have no idea okay that it is in the grant too chasing amy oh my god i should have known that one i've loved that movie like 10 and i have a j and silent bob as my banner on twitter like i shouldn't have movies but i've not sat down and watched chasing amy because It's the most serious one.
00:15:09
Speaker
Yeah, it didn't seem to fit in his movies that he was making at that time. So it just it didn't seem right to me. So it's it's dead even again. So we are on question two. Dan, you're up.
00:15:22
Speaker
i want to I want to go back to this well again at least one more time. I'm going to go back to Galaxy Far, Far Away. Okay. Okay. Now I will all also let you know in a weird way that I have just been putting the questions back in at the bottom of the stack. So at some point there may be a repeat of a question. I'm just going to spam this category until I get back to it. Yeah, there's probably like 40 questions. Right. It's a future investment.
00:15:51
Speaker
so you're investment man yeah Well, to be fair, we could be getting back to some because this has been a very popular topic amongst everybody. So, okay.
00:16:04
Speaker
In what movie does a character use a Darth Vader helmet in place of a football helmet? 30 seconds starts now.
00:16:14
Speaker
In what movie does a character use a Darth Vader helmet in place of a football bookhel of and place okay football helmet? Oh, okay. Time out on this real quick. I did forget to mention in the rules, you still have the three lifelines. So you have two hands and then you've got the one reshuffle. So 22 seconds now.
00:16:35
Speaker
Okay.
00:16:38
Speaker
It's not a movie I've seen before, but I feel like it's in this vein. Is it Little Giants? It is Little Giants. Oh, that was... that was us We call that a swag, a scientific wild-ass guest.
00:16:52
Speaker
but I'm surprised you haven't seen that one. That one's a very... I know. It's another one that's right in my wheelhouse that I should have i should have watched by now. And it was the dorky little kid, too.
00:17:04
Speaker
no no it was the big guy it was zoltek the center oh
00:17:12
Speaker
yeah because he would act like uh lurch whenever anybody called his name he would they'd yell for zoltek and you and then you could see the vader helmet just kind of ah skewed on his head and this was in practice i i am so full of useless information that he wrote these questions from memories what i'm hearing Pretty well. Pretty well.
00:17:36
Speaker
I mean, I go through and and verify my answers just in case I'm going crazy or something. But all right. So this should be question three.
00:17:49
Speaker
Two. For Dan. And as far as I can tell, our score is Dan one, Scott nothing. ah Where did I get my second question? Oh, is this second question? This is really the second round. Yeah.
00:18:02
Speaker
Yeah. So... my turn. Yeah. Second inning. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That was the third. It was the third overall question. It's it's Scott's second question. Yeah. We're in the bottom of the second.
00:18:15
Speaker
Yeah. Hey, I never said I was a great host at a game show. Come on. I'm doing this off the top of my head.

Navigating Challenging Trivia

00:18:23
Speaker
All right. So it is. It is your question too. So pick your category.
00:18:29
Speaker
Let's do who played me. Who played me? Again, this is one of those that if you happen to get the right character, you could score a few points. So just want to throw that back out there for people if they're listening.
00:18:46
Speaker
We have, for some reason, found a lot of new listeners when it came to this. So maybe they stick around. if If you're here, stick around.
00:18:57
Speaker
If you guys have listened or watched any of the other two episodes, and this actually popped up in it.
00:19:05
Speaker
I gotta get my clock ready. Sorry. See, I told you. i I never said I was a good host. Asajj Ventress.
00:19:19
Speaker
That is Gray Delisle.
00:19:24
Speaker
Okay. and And it's probably spelled Delisle, but she says it Delisle. Okay, so that's not the name I have down here. But I will pause the clock...
00:19:35
Speaker
and we will do a quick search to verify. VAR. send it to Send it to the VAR. Because it's the same voice as Azula.
00:19:50
Speaker
Sa's Ventress voice.
00:19:55
Speaker
Okay.
00:19:58
Speaker
In the 2003 Clone Wars micro series, she did voice it. However, since the 2008 animated film, this person has been the voice. So you get one point, but if you can name the other person, then you will get... Fetterman or Futterman, something like that? Yes.
00:20:19
Speaker
She's one of my favorite characters. I was going to get this one. Legitimately have a Star Wars lightsaber that has that curve with the spikes on it because she's one of like literally one of my favorite characters.
00:20:34
Speaker
so yeah that that's one of those situations and i'll even show it on here i had the fuderman as the thing i didn't even have gray down because i i keep forgetting that there was a clone wars thing before clone wars and i don't think i've actually sat down and watched it so because of that not takes lead
00:20:58
Speaker
i think i do above the window above the window next to chewbacca Oh yeah, okay, I see it now. Got it. Yeah. It's based on... Sorry, everything's tiny on my screen because I got too much shit open at one time. Alright, so because of that, Scott now takes the lead 2-1.
00:21:18
Speaker
Dan, now it is question 3. Your choice. And now everybody knows how that works. So if if that happens again, I have no problems looking it up. I'm going to go who said that.
00:21:33
Speaker
for 200 alex one of these days i am going figure out how to do i saw so a podcast actually do one on youtube i'll have to figure out how they did it there's probably learn how to learn how to host friends joe yeah well you know it might be better if i have other things than like a text dot me app or text open over here and shut up dan or you're never coming back okay who said that i guess every once in a while both sun shine on a womp rat's tail starts now
00:22:23
Speaker
it i can hear it i it's
00:22:30
Speaker
actually have his bobblehead up there somewhere. I feel like it has to be the only the only thing I can think of is Han Solo. that makes That kind of makes sense.
00:22:41
Speaker
No. Three seconds. It sounds like something Han would say. Lando, I don't know. Nope. You're you're thinking of the right type of person, but you need to be a little bit newer. It was Cobb Vanth.
00:22:55
Speaker
Mmm. wow. That's him at the old. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That, yeah, that sounds like a and old west. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. ah The Star Wars is a space western. and's And of course, like it makes it's tattooing specific.
00:23:14
Speaker
So it has to be someone from. Yeah.
00:23:17
Speaker
All right. So now, Scott, it is your question three. We'll do another in another galaxy. I need a little redemption for missing a Kevin Smith question.
00:23:32
Speaker
You know, he's supposed to be in Des Moines in September. They're having a show in Atlanta. And it was great. Galaxy Con in in September.
00:23:44
Speaker
And i was like, OK, well, I'll go see Kevin. smith They're having Kevin Smith, Jay Muse, Brian O'Halloran and Jeff Anderson. I was like, OK, great. I'll go up. And then I saw they have Hayden Christensen. It's like, ah,
00:23:57
Speaker
Do I spend the $200 on Hayden Christensen? Or do I... Because it was $100 for Kevin, then it's like $60 for Jay, and then it was $30 apiece for Jeff and O'Halloran. And I already have an O'Halloran and Jeff autograph over here. So do I just go up there $200 for the Hayden...
00:24:20
Speaker
I got to do the $200 for Hayes. If can remember my remember the dates and have it all set up, going to go up there for in September. But anyway, that's not what we're here for. This is oh in a galaxy far, far away.
00:24:39
Speaker
jay says, what two people had a Star Wars themed wedding and tied the knot as stormtroopers? Do I even need to start the clock?
00:24:48
Speaker
I'm trying to figure out what movie this one's from.
00:24:52
Speaker
jay says, what two people had a Star Wars themed wedding and tied the knot as Stormtroopers? God, why do I not remember this?
00:25:03
Speaker
God, I feel even worse now because this another Evan Smith one. This is probably the better one too.
00:25:13
Speaker
I don't know why I keep thinking Clerks 2 or Clerks 3 referring to Clerks 2. One last guess. Nah, I don't have it. Dante and Randall. It's in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
00:25:27
Speaker
After Jay does his little rap. I was um tip of the tonguing on their names. was like, the Clerks. The fucking two Clerks.
00:25:38
Speaker
What are the Clerks' names? but And it's funny because we were talking about them. I was like, it's the clerks. All right, Dan, this is question four.
00:25:52
Speaker
It is still two to one. mean I'm going to go back to Galaxy Far, Far Away again.
00:26:00
Speaker
You're hoping to get one of them repeat questions. i know how it is
00:26:09
Speaker
require me to remember the answer you gave me the last time I missed it. All right.
00:26:22
Speaker
debating if I want to do this question or not. These two characters have a debate about all the innocent workers and technicians who died when Death Star 2 blew up. You got to do another one, man.
00:26:41
Speaker
No, i because i'm not I'm not a... I assume this is a Kevin Smith thing. Can steal for redemption? I'm going to give you a hint and let you ask for it. in You know what? Hold on. i'm go ask for i and that's I almost forgot about my things. I'm going to for a reshuffle.
00:27:01
Speaker
Okay. Dante and Randall. It's Dante and Randall. It's the clerk. yes i'm i ah Kevin Smith is a gigantic blind spot for me. I love him. I just watched him in an episode of Storybots, a kid's show on Netflix that I had to watch today.
00:27:17
Speaker
I'm a big fan of Kevin Smith as a entity, but the movies are a blind spot for me, and I admit that. I'm strong enough to admit that. Kevin Smith can be a tremendous director and writer.
00:27:33
Speaker
I just think on some of his movies, he's missed a lot on Well, yeah. Now, if you go through the Arrowverse, he had done some amazing episodes in the Arrowverse.
00:27:47
Speaker
But some of his more... I haven't watched Clerks 3 yet, I don't know about that. I haven't seen it yet either. but like clerks clerks 2 jane silent bob strike back stuff like that are great movies i wasn't big on reboot it was a little weird but it was it was okay for what it was um what was his best uh yoga hosers was was really weird but i'm telling you dogma is his best movie
00:28:19
Speaker
It is, and it's even funnier when you find out that he goes and protests his own movie yeah with a bunch of religious fanatics. And they had no clue who he was. Okay, anyway, here is your reshuffle question.
00:28:35
Speaker
In Night at the Museum Battle the Smithsonian, Darth Vader comes to life and unsuccessfully attempts to force to choke who? Time starts now.
00:28:47
Speaker
I assume Ben Stiller. no um what's his character name i never i assume it was even if you have the character name it's not him um is it uh owen wilson no hank is area the king is it k it's it's not king tut but it's like it's something like that it's um Oh, I can't remember. Is it the Pharaoh guy from... it is, but I need his name, and it's Kamun Ra. Oh, damn it. Kamun Ra.
00:29:27
Speaker
because Yeah, another galaxy might be the hardest one, but it's the most fun. right ah Well, what makes it even, what makes it fun for me are these are all things that i know because I've watched most of these movies and everything else because yeah.
00:29:45
Speaker
All right. So Scott, this is your question for idiots array. Idiots array. This one's a little bit more of a thing for star Wars fans because it's a general overall question thing. So
00:30:06
Speaker
That was close. I almost put that up to the camera. What the hell am I thinking? I wasn't paying attention, so you're good.
00:30:17
Speaker
Okay. This one, I could say, could rival the Krayt Dragon thing, if you happen to get this one. It could. It's borderline there.
00:30:27
Speaker
What codename did the Kaminoans use for Boba Fett when he was cloned? 30 seconds starts now. Wasn't he just the template? No. He actually has a name, and you find out a little bit more about it in Bad Batch. Oh, Boba Yeah. 13 seconds.
00:30:52
Speaker
He's an unaltered clone.
00:30:57
Speaker
And this is his code name. Five seconds. Primary? No.
00:31:04
Speaker
I kind of gave and a hint there with the Bad Batch thing because there's Omega. alma al Oh, Oh, God. like At first, when you when you said Boba Fett, I thought you meant that that was his codename. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait.
00:31:21
Speaker
I got to remember I got the hints. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, totally forgot. that You should go ahead. Two to one. So the question five goes to Dan. We're halfway done here. Okay. Um...
00:31:36
Speaker
And it's not bad. It's two to one, so you don't have to risk anything yet. Yeah. I really want to go back into who played me because I like that, but I'm fucking awful at those. And I will admit there are a lot of hard ones in there. I went back through and started reading them. was like, oh, maybe I should have went a little bit.
00:31:56
Speaker
Maybe I should like throw this card and this card and this card out because even I wouldn't get this if I was asked. Um, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try, throw idiots array at me, because I gotta get back into the actual Star Wars based questions.
00:32:12
Speaker
Okay. Well, they're all Star Wars based questions. Like, actually, Star Wars, Star Wars questions. Not another galaxy far, far away. Yeah, but you got who played me. Not the Kevin Smith category. I need a Star Wars category.
00:32:28
Speaker
but but You know what's i ironic is even though he didn't direct or anything in it, Fanboys is technically a Kevin Smith style movie. He's in it. And I think he was like executive producer, but he wasn't the anything else on it.
00:32:44
Speaker
Okay. This one definitely is a Krayt Dragon thing. So if you get this wrong, I am re-spoking your, your Star Wars card.
00:32:55
Speaker
What is the name of the ship Leia was on when she was captured? Go. Oh, no. Better you than me, my dude. 20 seconds.
00:33:10
Speaker
and Hint. or hand Oh, my God. oh What's a good hint for this?
00:33:21
Speaker
There's three more before this one. And it starts with a T. Is it is is that a good hint? Okay. Because it's in... It's it's also in um Rogue One, too. I mean, it's the Corillion freighter.
00:33:43
Speaker
Five seconds.
00:33:48
Speaker
I don't know. um i will throw this out there it ryan it has a brown hive let's put it that way
00:34:05
Speaker
brown hive you'll get it when i on
00:34:16
Speaker
I don't know. Time's up. Tantive, tan, brown, and then Tive rides with Hive, four. i did i I didn't know that.
00:34:30
Speaker
i didn't know it either, so you're good. Okay. oh i that one through That makes me feel better. Let's do another Who Played Me for my turn.
00:34:41
Speaker
That was one of the toys big toys that you get when I was a kid. was like, ugh. I would have loved to have that thing.
00:34:50
Speaker
All right. You said who played me, right? no
00:34:55
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And we're still two to one, so nobody's lost or anything, but I do have a feeling if I put that in as a clip, Dan is going to get

Star Wars Characters and Quotes

00:35:03
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ripped apart. but It's okay. I will too, so it's fine. i'mla I'm glad I can generate content for you.
00:35:12
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<unk> the whole point of this thing right here is generating content man it's okay i'll get ripped apart too because the entire time i'm going i have no idea either okay dr royce hemlock and go i'm gonna reshuffle that Oh, okay I know. Oh, wait, hold Okay. I don't, I don't remember the name, but that's like one of the first times you've read one, like a more obscure one that actually remember that's who that's from the bad batch, right? Yeah.
00:35:44
Speaker
It's, I can't remember his name, but it's, it's McPoyle from always sunny. Um, Jimmy Simpson. Yes. yeah is miracle That's why I'm reshuffling. yeah um no i'm i'm so glad scott got that one because that would have pissed me off for like 30 seconds i would have just because know who it is i just don't know yeah it'd be like getting from the voices the robot in row one it's like oh right i know him he was steve the pirate he's the pirate i'm gonna meet him at a dragon con this year it's gonna be fun oh that's that's cool
00:36:25
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Um, but yeah, Jimmy Simpson is such a character, uh, actor because he's he's not been like a main character in a lot of things, right but he's played a solid, uh, uh, and he's been in like everything. Like I said, one of the things that I know him most for is playing Mary lightly in the, in the show psych and yeah, that's Jimmy Simpson. oh my God.
00:36:49
Speaker
See that I would know. I love that show. Psych's amazing. Love psych. uh okay this one is going to strip your star wars card if you don't get this one book you said that about the last three oh yeah tear hold on i'm trying to hear it bo katan sack off yeah yeah yeah that was yes that's the proper use of the reshuffle that pretty much so
00:37:23
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and But honestly, the other two are if you I will give you a pass because you both are a little bit younger than me.
00:37:35
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But around my age, you start getting a lot of like the the Tantive for a lot of us know that because of the toys and shit like that. So. All right. So, Dan, it is your question six I believe Okay, I'm going to go back to the comfort of in a galaxy far, far away and pray it's not another Kevin Smith movie. There's probably a lot of them in here. I know. He loves Star Wars.
00:38:07
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I got last one last time that was Blunt Man in Chronicles. I was a big fan of that. Okay.
00:38:15
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Okay.
00:38:22
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And I could see this one in my head too. it This 1999 animated movie has a soldier parody of Jar Jar Binks who says, you're the people gonna die? oh ah no. No, this one
00:38:45
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Oh, and it makes it worse. Oh, yeah. 17 seconds. can i have do i have one more hint? Yeah.
00:38:56
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Okay, give me the one more hint. one one more hand It is a very, very, very long-running cartoon on TV.
00:39:08
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ah
00:39:11
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is and And this random character doing this is very... Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I totally misunderstood.
00:39:24
Speaker
Hold on. It's a cartoon. read the question seat Wait, just read the question back one more time. It's not Small Soldiers. like ninety nine this 1999 this 1999 animated movie has a soldier parody of jar jar okay i know you goingnna die no exactly what this is this is the south park movie is yeah yes yes i i thought i literally almost said that out a lot of like well i know there's that line in the south park movie because when i hear when i heard animated i immediately thought kids movie
00:39:57
Speaker
and so i was like i'm like i'm like that's a weird place to go for a kids movie but which is why i thought that was scott was spot on i thought small soldiers was the next was my next guess like what kids have that but i'm like it's got that dark kind of yeah this is south park but he said animated movie he's thinking small soldiers i i use some people And it makes it so much worse when you think about the backlash Jar Jar Binks had because he was, quote unquote, that stereotypical racial character. And it's a black soldier. And that's how they stereotyped the black soldiers and stuff. I'm so glad that they gave Ahmad Baxter, like, what whatever ah whatever, retribution or whatever.
00:40:47
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i can't think of the word, but. and Yeah, retribution, yeah, reprieve, yeah, that that works too. So Dan, I am going to give you the point. i am going to be nice and give you back your your oh lifeline just because you misunderstood the question.
00:41:07
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Okay.
00:41:10
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So... I really was having hard time with you not getting that one. being I knew it right off the bat, but I'm like, you like I know they worried like who copied South Park.
00:41:22
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yes What's funny how you just said South Park. You like, it's not South Park, is it? You would have been like, yep. I know that's I'm like, I should have just talked it out loud. Damn.
00:41:33
Speaker
All right. So Scott, this is your question six. Let's do a idiots array.
00:41:42
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Idiots of Ray. Next year, if I do this, I'm going to have like sound clips that I can just hit the button and you're going to have like, Idiots of Ray or something like that.
00:41:56
Speaker
Get cameos from actual Star Wars actors. I thought about it. you know they They have those video cameos you could do. I thought about having something like that.
00:42:07
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right. I just didn't want to pony up the moment money. So that means you guys out there listening, go by merchandise's over over at ohannapackers.org and buy merchandise. I actually have Star Wars themed merchandise over there.
00:42:22
Speaker
May the Ope be with you and join the Ope side. We have Jordan Love and Cheese Curds. And yeah, it's great stuff.
00:42:34
Speaker
Okay. I'm not going to say what I normally say about this, but this is a fairly...
00:42:42
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Which color squadron is Luke part of during the attack on the Death Star? Red, and he's number five, because I play that in roulette every time.
00:42:53
Speaker
yeah right Red five, I go luke Skywalker every time when I'm playing roulette. In one of our...
00:43:06
Speaker
tabletop RPGs, Star Wars campaigns. One of my characters became a pilot and I named the ship Rogue Five. but
00:43:20
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I couldn't take Red Five. he wouldn't let me take Red Five, so I just went Rogue Five since it's the same squadron just renamed. Okay. Dan, question seven. Okay. Um...
00:43:35
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I'm going to go who said that. Who said that? I just did for 20 bucks.
00:43:47
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Did I mention again that I am open to bribery too? you know, I'm not this cut Alex Trebek style host store here. Okay.
00:44:01
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I'm one with the force and the force is with me.
00:44:12
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this no one would give its like chemp kinway some oh my god i can it starts with like a ch it's like a ch but it's um oh man can i have a hint because i i you're on the right track without me actually spelling it out for you she It's like Chi Kemwe or Chems. Oh, fuck. you can it's I will say this. It's two names. If you can either give me the first or last name to it, I will probably give you it because you're on the right track. i just
00:44:47
Speaker
I can't give you a great enough hint. What? Is it Imwe? Imwe? Yeah. It's Chirrut Imwe. C-H-I-R-R-U-T-I-M-W-E.
00:44:59
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Okay. Pretty sure Flo Koon also says it and like or something similar to That's true. yeah he does Yeah, when he's... yeah He probably did, but that's not the answer on the card, Scott.
00:45:13
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I understand, but I'm pretty sure Flo Koon says it in Clone Wars at one point. So he probably did. And it was probably early on in the, in the series. And that was the hard part about that series was the first few seasons were so hard to get through because it just felt like they drug on and on and on. And then finally after season four, was like, okay, this is an amazing show. All right. So we are still Scott is four. Dan has three.
00:45:41
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This is Scott's question seven. So. What are we going with? Who played me? Who played me? Scott's trying to go for that big one that he hopes that there's going be like four or five answers to.
00:45:57
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Give me Darth Vader. My God, if I pull that one, I am reshuffling the damn movie.
00:46:07
Speaker
It's such a layup, too. Okay. Let me get my clock here.
00:46:17
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This one is, it can be easy if you know it, but it's hard if you only have a general idea. The original Emperor. Go. Was it not Ian McDermott?
00:46:30
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No.
00:46:34
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Uh, hint. Okay. So, in Empire Strikes Back, When Vader talks to the Emperor about Luke Skywalker and all that stuff, it is not Ian McDiarmid. They cut him back in. In the original trilogy, it was somebody else.
00:46:54
Speaker
I will give you a character he voiced, because that's the only one that I know of off the top of my head. In Batman Animated Series, he was Alfred.
00:47:06
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I don't know if that helps you or not, but that's the best I can do. because I know the guy, and I could tell you what he's Batman Animated Series, and there's been a couple other things, but those are the two most known things that I have for you.
00:47:20
Speaker
No, I don't have it. Do you want to throw anything out? Because you've got a little bit of time on the clock.
00:47:29
Speaker
And no Google. No, I know. I have no idea. I'm going to be honest with you. have no idea. i know I've got time on the clock, but like Ian McKellar, McDermid, like those would be my names, but Michael Caine, like. Clive Revel. He's actually in the boat of Michael Caine when it comes to British actors. It's Clive Revel.
00:47:51
Speaker
Yeah, wouldn't. I wouldn't have had that. um yeah I was like, give Palpatine, but not that Palpatine. Not that one. That one. Um.
00:48:02
Speaker
But yes, when they win oh Georgie decided to we oh remaster Star Wars, he put Ian McDermott in there, but it was a different oh person altogether in some weird-ass makeup. I even heard rumor at one point that it's not even Clive Revel under the...
00:48:31
Speaker
ah makeup. It was some old lady that was under the makeup and he just voiced it. But I never caught that one. I just looked it up. He was literally just the original voice.
00:48:45
Speaker
Yeah. well that's you see the um I never saw the original trilogy in their original format. I only saw them remastered. yeah at least you joe didn't say at least joe didn't say this is a crate dragon question no this one i will be honest if again if you don't know it um you don't know it yeah uh then it's very much
00:49:20
Speaker
Not an easy one

Emperor Palpatine Discussion

00:49:22
Speaker
to get. I was trying to pull up the picture here for it real quick. Because, no, the original Emperor absolutely looked like a lady in makeup.
00:49:36
Speaker
And that's what I've heard. But then when you actually see what he looks like, it's like, okay, well, maybe not.
00:49:47
Speaker
I mean, he does look like the Emperor. That's why I pulled him up on my screen. But especially in some of these pegs. I'm trying to...
00:50:03
Speaker
want to do this so everybody can see it.
00:50:10
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right, can you see that?
00:50:14
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Not yet. I see it in a little the little bubble down there. Oh.
00:50:23
Speaker
Yeah, he looks like it. but Well, I guess that's Ian McDermott. Sorry. i ah The picture of Ian McDermott is the one in the back, but this is Clive Revel without the makeup. And then... blue That was not an easy one by any means.
00:50:49
Speaker
It's definitely one that like you have to know to know.
00:51:02
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sorry i'm new at this format no you're good and that's that's terrifying yeah that's original emperor from um empire strikes bag that's absolutely a woman in makeup but you can see that if you look at the other picture that i showed you of just clive revel he's got kind of the same jawline
00:51:29
Speaker
And you could see that maybe, because this is probably 30 years, that picture that I showed of Clive Revel was probably 30 years after. um You can take that down now, Joe. I don't need to see that anymore.
00:51:45
Speaker
It's kind of haunting. Yeah, that I will see that tonight in my dreams. Makes sense why in the original Star Wars, Vader was the big villain, but You didn't really know about the Emperor until the Empire. I'll say that was one Joe got, or not Joe, George got right remastering.
00:52:07
Speaker
that That was a win. That was a win. Agreed. Okay. Massive win. Now that we've bumbled my way through of doing ah trying to show stuff on screen, Dan, this is your question eight. We've only got a couple more questions left. Dan, it is Scott has four, you have three.
00:52:27
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Alright. um yeah Yeah, I'm hanging in there. I'm hanging in there, Coach. um They had me in the first half. I had me in the first half, not going to lie.
00:52:37
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ah
00:52:40
Speaker
I'm not going to get another South Park question, so I'm going to stay away from Galaxy Bar far away. ah Let's go to Idiot's Array. Okay. Do you know there is another one that I could do from Star Wars that I realized that I don't have in the questions over there, so...
00:53:00
Speaker
okay this is another one like the last question that it could be interesting that if you know it then i give you props for it boss what is the name of the genozian genozian leader what is the name of the genozian leader
00:53:22
Speaker
they're the bug guys right yeah i don't track yeah yeah mentionedian Geonosians or whatever. Geonosians.
00:53:34
Speaker
Nah, no, I'm not. i'm that I don't even click, click, click. I don't know. like i' I'm trying to pronounce it in their native language. OK, so I will say this. I'll just go ahead and run the clock. um I think it was mentioned actually in episode two.
00:53:51
Speaker
sure Yeah, I'm sure it was. But it was more known in like Clone Wars. It's Poggle the Lesser. OK. Poggle the Lesser.
00:54:01
Speaker
so scott your question eight let's do who said that who said that simuel jackson
00:54:17
Speaker
i mean if i get any samuel jackson questions wrong that uh like he's an atlanta guy like come on i should i should know his entire library My thing is I'm surprised George did not let him get one motherfucker in the whole star Wars thing, or at least like the star Wars.
00:54:39
Speaker
All these bantha fucking sin and his band. of Or at least when he got off or at least when he got his hand, motherfucker. Yeah.
00:54:55
Speaker
all right. The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Go.
00:55:03
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Is that not Obi-Wan? No. The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Qui-Gon. Qui-Gon. I know it's in that line because it's... Yeah. it's literally i have that screen I have that screen grab saved in my memes to use in Twitter fights.
00:55:27
Speaker
I was like, if that's not Obi Wan, it's Qui-Gon because like that sounds like something that Obi Wan would say to Luke or Qui-Gon would say to Obi Wan. He said it to Jar Jar, right? It was about Jar Jar.
00:55:39
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Yeah. But he i think he said it to Obi. He said it. He said it. He said it to Jar Jar because it he was he like he was trying to Jar Jar was trying to say like, well, like I speak, don't I like that? must be intelligent. Yeah. Yeah. You may be right on that one.
00:55:58
Speaker
all i've I've watched Phantom Menace more times than I care to admit because it's the one my son will sit through at age four because it's got a lot of very bright colors as opposed to some of the other ones. so Cartoons, man. That's why they were invented. but yeah Yeah. Imagine Rebels... I know. i'm go I need to start doing that.
00:56:17
Speaker
Rebels and Clone Wars cartoons. He will love them. Well, you got the Mandalorian, too. Everybody loves Grogu. Okay, see? And here's the problem. They came out with a... like disney junior star wars show which is like it's so he loves that so if i try i feel like if i try to start him on any other cartoon he's like this isn't this isn't my star wars show isn't that like young jedis or something like like it's like it's like yeah young jedi adventures yeah it's an all right show they say they're they're pretty spot on canonically too so really
00:56:57
Speaker
I mean, I have not sit down and watch it because I don't have young kids, but, you know. I mean, it's it's definitely it's a kid's show, but yeah. it's Isn't Ahmad Best like the teacher for that? and that he He is a character that comes in um The main teacher is... i just remember she was... ah She played a a recurring role in New Girl. That's what I remember her from. she's Yeah, but Ahmad Best does come in and play like a recurring guy in that.
00:57:26
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Haley Joe Osment plays like a talking eagle or something. He's in everything now that he's older. Right? He's great in the voice. And it's all voiceover work.
00:57:38
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Yeah. ah Yeah. Crazy. Okay. Scott. No. Dan. It's me, right? Yeah. night Okay. So you've got two more chances.
00:57:50
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Two more chances. going to try to tie it up here with Galaxy Far, Far Away again.
00:57:57
Speaker
Well, no you're too behind because he just got that one. he's Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's that's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah. That's fine. so He can always wager it all on the last one. That's plan. Not to give away the strategy, but that's the plan.
00:58:11
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Or you take a shot at who played me. I mean, you know, there's something in there too. o God, this one makes me feel well because I remember watching this movie in the theater. Damn it.
00:58:25
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All right.
00:58:28
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In this movie, after a mission briefing, Chick tells Harry, this is some Star Wars shit. This ain't for us. And go. Chick tells Harry. Oh. um Do I still have my hint?
00:58:46
Speaker
Did I keep that or did burn it already? No, I gave it back to you. You gave it back as a benevolent god. um i will take I will take that hint right now.
00:58:58
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They're sending to space a group of people that shouldn't be going to space. Harry! Oh, God, it's Armageddon! Yes.
00:59:10
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Armageddon. My brother took me, and his wife at the time, took me to see that in theaters, and it was something else. I don't know, it was... oh So, Dan keeps pace. He's still one behind.
00:59:29
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5-4. Scott, this is your question, 9. Do you go for the kill, or do you just stay pat? I'm going to go with the who played me. Who played me?
00:59:41
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Oh, the what the heck was that? I am not a Star Wars zoologist, so I would fail that. That's why I'm not even trying that right now. Okay, this one's a good one.
00:59:53
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This one's a good one.
01:00:00
Speaker
has visla as visla yeah p-a-z-v-i-z-s-l-a 25 seconds god which i'm trying to think of which visla that was it that was the mandalorian visla like in the mandalorian yeah or was he the visla in like the clone wars i think it's pre-visla yeah no i think it's the mandalorian one okay Hint. Final guess.
01:00:34
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Hint.
01:00:39
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I'm asking for a hint. Oh, hint. um Sorry. Well, no, his his audio kind of cut out on my end, so I i saw lips move, but I didn't hear anything.
01:00:50
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um
01:00:57
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What's a good hint that I can give that's not going to give it away?
01:01:07
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Can I say this is not the only Disney property he's part of?
01:01:16
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That narrowed it down.
01:01:19
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Was he... Okay, so is this Jon Favreau? Yes. Okay. I was trying Because, you know, I could say he does both behind the camera and voice. Well, I...
01:01:33
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I was trying to think of the voice, and I was like, because the one in The Mandalorian is Jon Favreau. Yeah. The one in, like, Breezy Vizla. I couldn't tell you who that is. i have no idea off the top any of this. You actually had Paz in one of the animated things at 1.2, but I could be wrong.
01:01:58
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I'll look that up. But i I know I'm not right about everything. I am a wrong man most of the time. But
01:02:10
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oh I think he because either that or he did the voice in an animated portion of something. But I know he's done some of the voiceover work on things.
01:02:23
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No, he also voiced Pre Vizsla. Okay, so. There you go. You'd been right either way. I'd have been right either way. I was like, shit. I didn't realize he was also Pre Vizsla, but it's the same voice or the same Yeah.
01:02:37
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But now you know why it was so hard for me to come up with a hint because there's so much things that you could say. Yeah. He is a middle linebacker in the replacements now. dead Or, you know, he was an assistant to a very famous multi-billionaire slash superhero.
01:02:56
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He was on Friends for a season. I was going to say, did Courtney Cox on Friends.
01:03:03
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Or you go with the behind-the-scenes things. You know, he's second in command to ah Dave Filoni. created ah Created his own, directed his own movie that he starred in that caused him to date Scarlett Johansson and Sofia Vergara.

High Stakes and Strategic Moves

01:03:21
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Yeah, that casting for that was pretty quick. Right, yeah. Yeah. But it was like, all right, it's between Scarlett Johansson and i get told of with Rosalind Sanchez. All right.
01:03:32
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All right. Let's go with Sofia. No, wait, no. It's between Sofia Vergara and Scarlett and Rosalind Sanchez. right. Sofia Vergara, she's hotter. Between Scarlett Johansson and, i don't know, Megan Fox. ah Scarlett Johansson's more believable. Okay,
01:03:50
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ah okay Dan. Question 10. I mean, i'm going to have I'm going to have to, yeah, go for the Hail Mary um and go, what the heck was that? And I'll wait i'll wager it all because it's not gonna I can't take it with me.
01:04:09
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Can't take it with you. I was going to see if there was a way. He can go three go one ahead. But. but
01:04:20
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Okay, what the heck was that? Now, like I said, I know this one is is a rough one. Trust me, I know this one's a rough one. Great. No, I'm in the category. oh okay. I thought you meant that.
01:04:35
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But also probably the question.
01:04:39
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Get my clock here. Sorry, it takes me a second. I've got to read my own handwriting. Yeah, I'm all out of lifelines. Same. We're good.
01:04:49
Speaker
what creatures appear in a large herd along the route taken by java sail barge bingo
01:05:00
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i mean think yeah banthas and we have the hail mary works the answer is banthas wow I mean, talk about everything. So he now has eight points.
01:05:23
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Scott, talk about a layup question for a Hail Mary. So we got to see if I can 13 seconds this. So ah we're going to go three points for the win.
01:05:37
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For the same category. Same category. Okay.
01:05:44
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And may the force have mercy on your soul. Yeah, I know. I'm probably losing here. Good game, Dan. but It has been a good game. well state really is new I like these kind of games.
01:06:06
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Sorry, it takes me a second to read my own handwriting, so I've got to verify that I'm going to read this right. Well, you got to type them up in an Excel spreadsheet.
01:06:16
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Yeah, but you guys hack it. I know you guys. assho yeah I'm a lone officer. I don't have that kind of computer science.
01:06:27
Speaker
What kind of creature do Rex, Wolf, and Gregor try to catch using Ziba's bait? Using Zeb as bait?
01:06:39
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They try to catch a Jumpa. Like it's big old...
01:06:43
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like it's a big old called a jupa no and you said you wagered three points right yeah we have a winner in scott okay i was like one i was like i've seen rebels like 10 times i know what what that thing's called well i got to thinking about it i like i think it's zeb but why did i put an a there it's zeb aurelios come on man zeb a gara zeb aurelios
01:07:15
Speaker
but Well, it's I have it Z-E-B-A-S. It's like, what the hell am I spelling here? I know it's Zeb. Zeb space as space bait.
01:07:30
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Gotcha. As bait. Yeah, there you go. See, I can't read my own writing. Give me a break. That's why type them up and then you go back and read them later. i just turned 40 last weekend, so I'm i'm getting my old man age on me.
01:07:45
Speaker
But yes, Scott, nine points, Dan, eight points. Dan, you have done relatively well compared to what you thought you were going to do. I scored nine last time.
01:07:58
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scored nine last time. And Kiwano only put up two, so. Yeah, compared to what I did the first time around, I'm i'm very happy with this performance.
01:08:09
Speaker
Well, even the first time around, you and Emma were scoring left and right. You were doing pretty good. Especially at the end, I feel like when we got to the sudden death one, we were kind of trading. at like we were at That's when we actually started getting questions right when it came down to the so the crunch time there.
01:08:25
Speaker
So, yes, Dan, you you did well. You can kind of hang your head up high for a little bit. you know you're You're still going to get knocked down on some of these things probably when when these clips go out. sure.
01:08:38
Speaker
but scott no we're gonna give dan the opportunity do you have anything to say to your worthy opponent i am i am very happy to lose this to somebody who clearly is a massive star wars fan and that makes me happy that i lost to someone who at least i know earned it and knows it so congratulations scott Thank you. I've at that minimum watched all of the Star Wars stuff. like Except for like Andor and I haven't finished Acolyte yet, but like I've watched all of it.
01:09:13
Speaker
i i one of these days i'm going to get the tom brady slaps jake paul or logan paul or whichever paul brother it is moments on this podcast and you know come on do you want you want you want toxicity in the star wars fan base what oh we had it okay and so scott i'm going to give you a moment to revel in your in your victory do you have anything you want to say to your worthy opponent anything to say for your upcoming matchup with david I beat your Hail Mary with my Hail Mary. So, good game.
01:09:48
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I was given a question that was probably one of the only things that I would have gotten in that category, too. so i give you props.
01:09:59
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I would have never got that with as much knowledge as I have in my head. Even I question why I came up with this topic for questions because there's no way in hell I would have most of them.
01:10:09
Speaker
The minute you said Rex, Wolf, and g Gregor, I was like, oh, that was when they were hunting Jumbas. And then you like, Zeb is bait. And I'm like, oh, it's a Jumba. Yeah. Yeah. So but i do want to throw this out here. i actually had a little bit of a tick-tock back and forth because somebody came up and was trying to justify the Leia scene in Last Jedi where she gets blown out ah and...

Debating 'The Last Jedi' Scene

01:10:34
Speaker
Oh, well, you know, that's an old force power of how she survives space. And it's like, I don't think anybody really was pissed off about her surviving space. It was her Mary Poppinsing her ass back. yeah yeah
01:10:48
Speaker
Everybody. Well, that's just force pull. It's like, so she pulled the ship to her.
01:10:57
Speaker
Or she pushed her, pulled herself. ah you Yeah, because I even said on there, if you go through a couple of the books in the old expanded universe, there was a way that Luke and Mara would survive in in space for a short amount of time by using a force healing trance, and they could survive. it just you know It wasn't like they could go out and spacewalk or anything like that, but it's the whole point that she Mary Poppined herself back into the ship afterwards.
01:11:29
Speaker
He came back at me with something else, and yeah, I haven't responded to him. So that that just speaks to the toxicity. and Well, not necessarily toxicity, but the, you know, well, my point of view is this, this, this. You're just trying to justify a bad movie.
01:11:46
Speaker
Here's the thing. The sequels weren't horrible, but there was no true direction through through line, and that's what screwed it. Yes. Dan, what what's my thoughts on The Last Jedi? I think we had like a whole two-hour episode. We did.
01:12:02
Speaker
We did. You, yeah. you You want to talk about Toxic. joes Joe that movie. If you haven't heard that, go back and listen to that episode that Dan and Aaron, I think that's the whole reason Aaron won't come onto my show is because I went and destroyed Last Jedi.
01:12:24
Speaker
see and i i think the last jedi was better than rise of skywalker i the thing that i give the last jedi there are two things that i that i give last jedi i like it it was a good seeing i didn't mind luke being the crotchety old man because you know he kind of He learned from Yoda. Yoda went into exile after Order 66, became the crotchety old you know whatever ri Yoda is. They haven't come up with what he is yet.
01:12:59
Speaker
Luke's own version of Order 66 happened, and he went off and became a crotchety old hermit on ah on a planet. I have no problems with that. The other thing is, is how, and I didn't even have problems with him using Force apparition, because again, that that happened in the old oh expanded universe a lot too.
01:13:23
Speaker
and visually speaking, yes, Rian Johnson did a heck of a job visually. Storyline-wise, horrible, terrible. Script, horrible. Again, if you guys haven't heard, anybody out there hasn't heard the episode Dan had me on, their they're watching stuff, Star Wars Edition. i think that was what your longest episode to date, Dan, i was. think definitely was. Yeah. but I mean, honestly, After Force Awakens, both are pretty trash.
01:13:55
Speaker
Yeah. Storyline-wise. But, like, Rian Johnson at least kind of went with the story a little bit. You could see where he connected it. There was no real connection from Last Jedi to Rise Skywalker. was like, well, all this is now retconned.
01:14:12
Speaker
Yeah. what i indeed It was at least fun. i mean, it was it wasn't great script, but like it's fun. Yeah, the Exegol thing and everybody randomly showing up. and um and And the little Easter eggs in it, too, because you know you saw the ghost, you saw...
01:14:30
Speaker
ah What was the other show? Dennis Lawson as Wedge Antilles. You saw Nian Noob. You saw those guys pop in and and call back from the original trilogy. but ah what i could go on a whole rant on the sequel trilogies, and I'm not going to keep you guys here for this, but I will say this.

Critique of Sequel Trilogy Storytelling

01:14:53
Speaker
What the sequels did was what they tried to do what George Lucas did with the original trilogy.
01:15:02
Speaker
George wrote it, George produced it, but he didn't direct it. He brought in three different directors for the movies and said, here, this is the way we're going with things, but I want you to put your vision into it.
01:15:15
Speaker
I could see them trying to do that with... of the sequel trilogies, but the problem was is they didn't have just one person write the story and then just had three different directors. They had three different directors. They had three different writers. They had three different, you know, everything. And it just was a cohesive mess.
01:15:37
Speaker
The real issue was that Filoni and Favreau weren't the ones doing the sequel trilogy. yeah Because if you get Filoni and Favreau the sequel trilogy...
01:15:49
Speaker
Not only does it make sense, I mean, Force Awakens probably doesn't change much, right? but what i I mean, it it it was basically Star Wars. Like, it was basically the OG original movie, recut with Rey, right?
01:16:06
Speaker
So like that, that's whatever. But the next two movies with Filoni and Favreau probably change a ton and are really coherent and make a ton of sense. And even the little like Maz Kanata and the little like dudes that are hanging out with those all, even though like the movies did kind of suck, they would have been a lot better with those two running things.
01:16:33
Speaker
i'm looking forward to it because what is it in a couple of days is when uh mandalorian and grogu is available for streaming so i'm kind of looking forward to watching that i didn't go to the theater for it but that's another thing i'm not a big theater person i always get stuck around the weird people who just want to sit there and talk and throughout the movie and you didn't need to go to a theater to see that i did i didn't need to go see but i I like to sit in in my house on my couch yeah with my dog on me the next to my wife, pause it when I got to go to the bathroom, pause it when I want a snack or a drink.
01:17:08
Speaker
I don't have to pay a million dollars for a snack or a drink. like I'm a definitely watch a movie at a house guy. Well, the thing is, is even with as bad as I thought the sequels were, I still went to the theaters for all three of the sequels. So it's like, it can't be any worse of an experience than that.
01:17:25
Speaker
But I just, like I said, I'm not a big sequel or not sequel. I'm not a big theater person. Again, I go back to my one experience.
01:17:35
Speaker
ah My brother, i my brother was able to take me to a lot of movies. He's 10 years older than I am. So he took me to see Eight Mile when it was in the theaters. and and you know because i'm an m and i i grew up as an m m fan so you know it was just he came out with the movie we went to the theaters and all that we i had no problems with the movie i had no problems being in the theater it was that we had three older people they had to be in their 50s and 60s that sat in front of us and they had to explain everything that was going on in the movie to each other and it got really awkward when it came to the sex scenes
01:18:14
Speaker
And they were having to explain that to each other in front of us. And they it wasn't like three rows ahead of us. It was like right in front of us. So, yeah, that's the kind of things that I get when I go to the theaters. I always seem to end up around people who do want nothing but talk. Yeah, I know, Dan, you got to bounce soon We all got to bounce soon. i can hear my kids screaming next to me.
01:18:37
Speaker
But luckily for you, Dan, you don't have to move on to next week, so you don't have to worry about being taken away you. An absent father. um But yes, next week should be the finale. It'll be Dan versus David.
01:18:52
Speaker
Should be a solid matchup. Dang, did I just lose? I see the D in the Darth, and it's like, my God. but oh I told you I'm getting old. I'm getting the old timers. Leave me alone.
01:19:08
Speaker
Scott versus David finals next week. Hopefully then it'd be Packer talk from that point on until the end of the football season.
01:19:20
Speaker
Whenever that be, if the Packers make a long run, who knows? We'll most likely have Dan on at some point again during the season to hear his views on the Packers. Dan,
01:19:31
Speaker
Before you go, are you doing Lombardi's Bar again this year? No Lombardi's Bar this year. um Trying to cut back on the absentee fatherism.
01:19:42
Speaker
um But still doing Pack-A-Day on Mondays with Monty and Camille. And then Monty and Camille and will also be ah hopefully doing our Head of the Pack episodes for Cheesehead TV as well when the season starts up again.
01:19:59
Speaker
Yeah, but we don't care about those. you know That's Andy and Nagler thing. It's the Lombardi bars. So you hear it heard it here first, folks. There is no Lombardi's bar this year, so you know make sure you let Dan and and Todd and Jimmy know that they're failing all of us as Packer fans with no Lombardi's bar.
01:20:18
Speaker
Scott, we'll see you next week, but is where can they find you and what are you up to and all that good stuff? You can find me on Twitter at Karasik S. I write a little bit for Blogging Dirty. It's the offseason, so I'm kind of like bored.
01:20:34
Speaker
um Not a ton of stuff to do there. But ah yeah, that's where you guys can find me. Yeah, I know.
01:20:45
Speaker
But unfortunately, don't think the Packers play the Falcons this year, so I can't say. Yeah, we did we reopen we open at home against the Falcons, don't we? On Thursday night?
01:20:58
Speaker
No. It can't be, Dan. I didn't think we played them this year. Because we played the Steelers week one.
01:21:09
Speaker
We played at the Packers in week three on Prime Video on a Thursday night. Yeah, that's the home opener, Joe, for the Packers. Okay. So we'll maybe we'll have we'll we'll get Scott on and talk a little bit of...
01:21:24
Speaker
uh falcons packers during the let's see because uh my wife is pregnant and um there you go that's that's the let's see part of it like uh-huh she's due on october 5th but like you know how that works it could end up being a little bit earlier and that a little bit earlier is would knock me out of everything from the 20 to the 24th well you know what happens if you win this whole trivia thing right you gotta name the kid after a star wars character that' right it's that you don't have that's not a middle name the first name all set up and maybe like a sneaky second middle name
01:22:11
Speaker
a Fun fact, I actually had a driver that would come into my job and make deliveries, and his legit first name, I saw it on his ID, Anakin. So that's something for you to look forward to. But anyway, you can find us wherever you find your podcasts. Make sure you like, subscribe, review, give us thumbs up, give us five stars, let us know how you're how we're doing. Again, we are going to get into the Packers stuff as soon as the contest ends. I do actually have a a present for the person who comes in first.
01:22:42
Speaker
I've been meaning to show it on here, but I haven't. It's just been sitting in my truck. Luckily, it's not something that can melt or anything like that because it has been getting freaking hot here in Iowa. But normally Mike would say Go Pack Go and Aloha, but because it's Star Wars, it's Go Pack Go and may the Ope be with you.

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