Introduction to the Special Boxing Edition
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He's with the millions. That world heavyweight float. Championship belt wrapped around my waist, yo. I got that Ric Slam, fake it, flow.
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Slam you on the pavement, that's why they call me Street Pro. Create heat on beat flow. Like Jordan after the second time he three-feated, folks. Get ready, set, let's go.
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Fight toe to it toe, release the flow created by this micro. Lights, camera, get low. Action packed, back to back, in fact this monster will go, y'all better let em know. Man with the master playing and you have no need to know, heart like winter cold.
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Bust these fools, anything less than killing whack rappers is a crime, I stay trying, get mine. Stacking value, packing venues, winning overtime, ain't no fine timeline.
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Meet the Experts: Clever D and Tom Hitch
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Introducing, from parts unknown, your UFC and combat sports insider, Clever D, the combat GM, the sports professor, Tom Hitch.
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Yes, indeedy. We are back to feed the needy ball and buds. I don't know. I don't know. The first thing that came to mind, ball and buds, baby, we are back. You see it ah here for a very special boxing champs.
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special edition of our fight picks for the huge, huge main event this weekend for the undisputed titles. We have Canelo Alvarez.
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We have Terrence Crawford. And as always, you know, if we are talking any combat sports, I must have my expert, my guru, when it comes to the combat sports boxing, UFC combat sports insider, Club of D, the combat G.
Significance of the Canelo vs. Crawford Fight Weekend
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Europe. What up, We're to have a fun, fun show. We got a lot of guests. We got a lot of stuff to cover. We have one of the biggest fights in the last, i don't know, 5, 10, 15 years. We'll say 20 because it sounds good on wax, but it's going to be a good show, and I can't wait to talk about this.
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Hey, yes, sir. It does sound good on wax and... Oh, okay. I like it. Team Petty. And ah someone else who also sounds good on Wax and in his videos and where he will give you boxing's foremost history. Yes, he is boxing's best historian. You got to go check him out at YouTube from 86 Boxing.
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Josh, what's good, brother? What's going on my people right there? I'm flattered, flattered. Definitely a lover of history. That's what I would say right there, but glad to be here. Big weekend, the biggest weekend in probably a decade as far as fights are concerned.
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Yes, now tell them where they can find you.
Boxing Historian Josh Joins the Discussion
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Upcoming Fight Previews and Insights
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Wait, is that ai is that a new podcast that you are promoting i that you want to tell the audience about? Oh, you're talking about the light on the yayo?
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ah Oh! Hold up a second. It's in the works. It's in the works. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't get me started. It's a little too early all that. Okay. All right. I thought might want let the people know, but that's okay. We'll keep it. It's my time. Yeah. All right. All right.
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Yo, yo, what up, Rube? What's going on? Appreciate you tuning in. Rube. Yes, sir. All right, cool. Well, gentlemen, hey, before we get into the main event, y'all stick around. We'll go into Canelo Alvarez and Terrence Crawford here.
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That'll be the last thing we talk about in the show. We
Heavyweight Title Fight Implications
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got a bunch of other bouts we want to talk about first. And we have some news that we want to talk about. So going to go around the horn and get everybody's piece of news for the day. They're boxing news. Clubber D, let's start with you. What do you got news of the day here?
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I'll go over one of the fights that got announced. well ah got a big ah heavyweight title shot coming up or implications with ah Joseph Parker going against Fabio Wardley. ah That's going to be October 24th.
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think it's that Saturday. And basically the winner, as my dog shakes his head, the winner will be going against Usyk because he'll be the number one contender. So I cannot wait. I think Parker should have fought Usyk last.
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We all saw what happened to a dinner to boys. But yeah, that's a big fight they just announced. All right. Word.
Weight Class Challenges in Pitbull vs. Roach
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And there was also a mention of Pitbull Roach. Was that something we wanted to talk about as well?
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Oh, I was going to let someone else say that. But yeah, yeah, they just announced. I don't know. Pitbull versus Roach in December at 140. So we got Roach who just fought at 135 his last fight against Tank Davis. And we all know what happened about this rematch.
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And now we got him moving up to 140 now going against Pitbull. So I wonder if he vacated WBA at 130. That's what I wonder. Interesting. yeah I like that fight, though. That's a very interesting fight. Josh, what you got
Tiara Brown's Title Defense
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on the ah news of the day?
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Yeah, Decker B. Great. Yeah, those are all each interesting. ah I wanna note that, of course, the Dark Minish, Tiara Brown, undefeated WBC World Featherweight Champion,
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She's going to be putting her title on the line for her first de defense in Houston on OTX 16, September 20th. I'll be out there live in the building. She's taking on Emma Gungora, a f French fighter who decent, solid. But I'm telling you, just from seeing Tiara in training camp, she's about to put that hurt and honor. I'm telling you, stay tuned.
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Team Tiara all day.
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Insider information. Shout out. He's going to be there in the flesh. Y'all got to make
Las Vegas as a Potential Fight Venue
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sure you check out 86 Boxley. I'm sure he will be going live there for y'all. Shout out to Hurricane Howard out here in Tennessee. Boxer from Tennessee. Tune in on Instagram. We appreciate you.
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Yayo, what you got on the news for today? Look, man, I heard Vegas is dried up. More than a raisin turned into a prune or something like that. words Maybe it's the other way around. but so I'm trying to figure out what Vegas is trying to do. Are they trying to get a money grab real quick with this Canelo Crawford thing? know saying? This is the last hoorah. You know what I'm saying?
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All my picks are based off a conspiracy theory, baby. You best to believe it. big you um
Engaging the Audience
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I mean, hey, we were there a couple weeks ago. And while it was a fun and amazing trip, obviously we had a bunch of our friends together. So that's what made it really fun.
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It was a little more dead than the last time i was there a couple of years ago. So I can understand some of the and, you know, I've first heard from people that live there about the decreasing, um you know, tourism and things like that. So but it was still a lot of fun, no doubt, when we went out there. So.
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Yeah, they like apparently. Yeah, he now you know, like for free money. is legit, but it wasn't as a people. You know what Omar was doing. Omar was looking for the tiny twins. He said, I'm trying to do a little bitty with it. Hey, let's go.
Main Event Fight Order Debate
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Let's hit up some more comments here before we get into our bouts. Hey, Canteen, shout out. What's good, my brother? Thank you for tuning in. Appreciate you. What's up, fellas? Also, morning, Wombat.
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Yes, great to see you as well. Thank you for tuning in as always. What up, M-Dub? M-Dub in the house? All right, cool. Well, let's go ahead and start with some fights here. Now, what I was thinking, gentlemen, since obviously Bud and Crawford has to be last, I'm thinking we just go, I mean, Bud Crawford, Bud and Canelo.
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That's what, no, that's why, that's why. That's hilarious. ge whoever he measure up well you ye no thats up to Whoever wrote it on Instagram, I copied that from Instagram. It says Bud versus Crawford.
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It's your fault. It's a mirror match. anyway Since we're doing that last, I'm thinking we'll go from backwards to forwards and we'll go ahead and start with the ah with the Crocker Donovan fight and then we can go into Inouye and then we can go into the big card. Is that what y'all want to do?
Lewis Crocker vs. Patty Donovan Preview
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it. all All right. Sounds good. Well, let's move into the first fight. It's going to be actually this Saturday, September 13th from Belfast, United Kingdom, Windsor Park.
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It's going to feature 21-0 Lewis k Crocker versus Patty Donovan. Patty john vi patti Donovan is so two years younger than the ah Crocker, he also holds a 79% KO percentage, getting KOs in 11 of his 14 wins.
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Although, on the other hand, Crocker does have ah the experience advantage with 38%. ah thirty 39 extra pro rounds.
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So there you go. That's your
Predictions for Donovan vs. Crocker
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intro there. ah Let's go ahead and start off with you. Club Rudy. you think about this fight? We got a rematch from, I it was with a legal blow that stopped us in eighth at the last fight.
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I vaguely remember watching the first one, but as we were discussing before the show started out there, I think Donovan was winning, right? He was, he was one kind of, kind of up on this one or was it the other way around? I think it was one of them.
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Donovan was winning. but Okay. Okay. So I'm going to equate that to this being as similar to Roy Jones when he fought, ah was it Montel Griffin? Is that his name? Oh, yeah. He took the knee and then hit him. And then after that, so i I got this fight. I don't i don't see him go past three rounds.
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have to change my picks, but yeah, I got Donovan on this one. Okay. Donovan, ah is just KO or TKO? Yeah, I mean, either way, he's going to win three rounds.
Impact of IBF's Rehydration Rule
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There you go. Josh, what do you think about this fight? Hey, I'm looking forward to this. You know, here in D.C., we have this... long-running kind of tournament or I guess you could say competition is called the Belfast Beltway Boxing Classic where some Irish fighters come over and they'll go against some of the DC amateurs and then they alternate in some of the DC amateurs, DC area amateurs, they'll go over to take on the Irish amateurs and it's
Betting Odds and Strategies for Canelo vs. Crawford
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a nice program that they offer there And I was there earlier this year because there was one and it just so happened to be some people who were connected to in some capacity. I guess you can say Andy Lee, Patty Donovan, so team Ireland right there.
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And i was in agreement with them when we were having this discussion that, of course, I thought Donovan was about to stop. Crocker in that last contest, but it's just the way the fight flowed, he ended up getting disqualified for a late hit. Now, I was of the opinion that the referee took too many points from Donovan early on because he was claiming headbutts, but he wasn't warning Cracker who had this guard with his head stuck out as much as he was warning Donovan. So Donovan lost two points there early on. So the referee kind of had no choice. The punch was late. It was after the bell, but the referee had already dug a hole. so
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There was no way Donovan was going to get out of that. So I'm with you there, Clubber D. I think that the better fighter is Donovan. He's less shot worn as well because Crocker, he has been in some wars, but that's just how he's built stylistically.
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But Donovan, I think, will be too much for him. I'm picking stoppage as well. I'll take
Adams vs. Boachuk Rematch
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it round five, TKO. It's over, Donovan. Crown demands. through Round five TKO. I neglected to mention, my apologies there, ah everybody watching the stream. This is for the vacant IBF welterweight title.
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Yayo, so what you got on this one? Man, I enjoyed the hell out of the last fight. Sort of. cause i get high Listen, man, I get high blood pressure watching them, the zone cards, man. them The referees are straight trash. Oh, my God. I mean, it's is like, it's i don't know. It's openly it's just really easy to see that it's, you know, it's real funny style.
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So to be honest with you, I had Donovan stopping him last time. So um I got Donovan KO nine. I'm saying let's cash him in. ah Yeah, I'm going to make it a consensus four for four.
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ah While both of these fighters obviously are
Heavyweight Bout Analysis: Franklin vs. Deitchco
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good and Crocker does have a a little more experience, I don't have to go over where all the gentlemen just mentioned in the favor of Donovan. So I am also choosing Donovan KO6 to win the vacant IBF welterweight title. I will add, since this is the battle of shepherd's pie, um with this being for the IBF...
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They have the 10 pound, you know, you can't be over 10 pounds the next day rule. So that might play in a fight for the fighter as well. You know, you you can't rehydrate over 10 pounds, which is, don't know why the IBF does that. No other belt does, like why, unless you're unifying, that's, that's always in play. That's what hurt Boots in this. play And also it's worth noting that that last contest was apparently a title el or interim title I believe either interim title or title eliminator, believe is for the same one. It is now up. I don't know who previously had it. I don't recall.
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It was an interim title, I believe was on the line for that last one. Interesting. All right. Work. We'll go ahead and go ahead and keep those. I'll make sure I put those on the stream later.
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But make sure you put your bets in with all these gentlemen's picks here today as obviously they know what they're talking about. And you should too. Make sure you subscribe and tap in at everyone's channels here today.
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Let's get into the monster. What was that? No, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Let's get into the monster. Niowa, in a way, undefeated 30. And, oh, he is going um he's going up against, I don't want to butcher this name, but it's Akhmalaev. It's called it. Lurajan Akhmalaev. I call him MJ.
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MJ. Hey, hey, let it roll off your tongue, Josh, a little bit there. um ah Pause on that. Anyways, so there's a – this is for all the belts on
Walsh vs. Vargas Predictions
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the line in terms of the featherweight belts.
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So let's ahead and start with you, Yayo, what you got on this matchup. Look, man, this is going be –
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I'm going just say it like this, man. In a way, it's Cheney. He'd have been sat down by Southpaws a couple times now, know what I'm saying? and this particular Southpaw has an amazing counter left hand, even though he's a Southpaw.
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And he has a counter uppercut. And an uppercut that he times when right-hangers decide they want to run up in that thing. So to be honest, man, what does vegas want to do i'm only picking off a conspiracy theory zone what does vegas want why is vegas got in a way and bud and canelo fighting all in the same weekend are they trying to say somebody's better than
Mbili vs. Martinez: Fight Preview
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somebody you know i'm saying trying to get that number one spot figured out so i would love to say ahmedelev sits um in a way down which he probably will because the last couple people have but i'm gonna say
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Inouye, by stoppage, probably around KO9, but he takes a seat somewhere early on because he's going to get cracked coming in. So the only reason why i'm picking Inouye KO9 is because I don't think they want him to lose.
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Okay. I mean, that makes sense. um Just to let you all know, Inouye is a 900 favorite, so an overwhelming favorite. Josh, what do you got in this one?
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ah s Slipping on my man MJ now. This should be an interesting contest right there. MJ, he has the amateur background. He's putting me in that work here on the pro side as well.
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And he's battle-tested, you know. He has a loss in that game, I believe, against Topalas. And it was in a situation where could have gone the ah other way, honestly. And there may have been something off with MJ. Yeah.
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in that particular contest. All that said, ah do think that Inouye is on top of his game right now. He
Strategic Breakdown of Canelo vs. Crawford
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has been dropped. He will set himself up for exchanges and he will put himself in vulnerable positions to get off shots of his own. So that is a risky proposition, but he seems to not really mind risking it, which is why he has been dropped in his last couple of contests.
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I think that MJ is a hell of a boxer. I do think athletically speaking, Inouye probably tops him slightly. I'm going to go with Inouye via split decision. I think MJ will put up a fight and I think he will stand the test of time because I haven't seen anything that would say otherwise as far as him not being able to withstand it for the duration. But Hey, that's why we watch him too, you know? So I got a, in a way, split decision.
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All right. Well, there you go. ah In a way does have a 90% KO percentage, getting 27 KOs in his 30 wins. Clever D, what do you got?
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ah Go ahead. I saw your finger up. I forgot to say something. ah The reason why I was picking a KO nine is because in a way he's going go to the body on him I'm saying he's going to stop him to the body.
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Oh boy has an opening that he does when he's ah on the inside. so That's I want to make sure that was out there. Gotcha. I was was going to make sure you didn't say something was going to say. So yeah yeah you didn't.
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So I had to say that, too. I'd say for this one, you know, I like to go. like to go with the better jabber and anyways, a better jabber. I know MJ's.
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MJ's last fight, what did he say? Uzbekah power whatever. and you know he He does have power. He is a good fighter. and I do think he will rock anyway. might Like Yayo said, he might knock him down ah early in that fight.
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um but I feel like the way Inway's style is with him jabbing and and he's gonna basically he'll put himself out there which hasn't worked in the last few fights as far as him getting dropped, but he he'll put himself out there to set up traps for later on in the fight.
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And I think that's what's going to happen. He might, you know, get caught once or twice, but he's going to put himself out there so MJ can put in position to get taken out. And I think will be very competitive. And i actually, I sent this earlier today.
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Yeah, you were kind of the same. I got knocked out anyway in the ninth round. But it will be an action-packed fight in the first, ah probably say six, and then it might start start changing.
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So you got the monster KO9? KO9, yep. All right, cool. KO9. um Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to disagree with the with the gentleman here that have chosen Kale. Obviously, as I just mentioned, he does have a 90 percent knockout
Final Predictions for Canelo vs. Crawford
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rate and he is undefeated in so many bouts for a reason. ah Experience does matter as well.
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um And again, I get exactly what Josh is saying and you You could see it going the distance, but I'm going to go KO as the as the other gentleman did. And I'm going to say, ah I don't know. Let's say KO. He usually gets people out of there pretty early. So I'm going to say KO, KO5, let's say.
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Okay. Not bad pick. um All right, cool. Well, again, thank you everybody for tuning in. Make sure you hit us up in the comments. Let us know what you think. You think the monster's going to KO him? Do you think he'll go the distance?
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but you think about Donovan and Crocker as well? We are about to get into the huge main event this weekend. We're going to go through the whole, not the whole card, but most of the fights on the card because it is, as ah Josh said, a very stacked matchup.
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card um So we're going to get into that. But make sure, again, that you please hit that like button, whether you're watching now or on the replay. And please make sure you tap in with all of the ah channels here. Again, Ball and Buds, Clubber D, 86 Boxing, Skywalker Boxing Media, Boppy Chunyeo on Instagram as well. Let's not forget Mo Boxing, no problem.
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That's right. As they are also a partner with us there. A lot of stuff like Country Box as well. Shout out Country Box. All right, cool. So again, yeah, let us know in the comments what you think we're going to move it into this huge Saturday night main event card.
00:22:41
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ah Wow, this is going to be a doozy, gentlemen. Canelo Alvarez, let me see. I don't know why that's not shifting up. Hopefully that'll work. Let's see. Boom.
00:22:53
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Canelo Alvarez versus Terrence Crawford. I can put that up so at least later I can go back and make sure I know where to enter that in at. But that's what we're talking right now. Let's go ahead and get into the prelims here of the actual card.
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So first, we're going to go ahead and start off. with Deitchco versus Franklin. um So again, this is on the undercard. This is a 10-round heavyweight bout.
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So Clubber D, we will start with you on this one. what do you think about this fight? daichiko you know he's he's that prototype that tall uh uh fighter with power he doesn't he's not he hasn't been as active throughout the years but he's definitely someone they're trying to market um jermaine uh franklin's magic fiddle there he's you know out of detroit i do yeah He's out of Detroit. he um He had a great showing against Deleon White and um and Joshua.
00:23:51
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you know I think that's where he gained his respects. I thought he was pushover, and you know those fights were very close. I'm a fan of Jermaine Franklin. um I feel like he's one of those fighters where He's just, his body style is just not fit for the heavyweights of this era.
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I think if he was a little lighter, i think he'd do a lot, he'd fare a lot better. um But he's good he's definitely going to give Daicha, hope I say his name right, he's going to give him a get him a run for his money, but I'm i'm going with Daicha. And I'm not sure what round I had the fight done in, but I'm going to say for Essin Giggles, I'm going to say ah we'll go by decision.
00:24:31
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By decision, and Deitchco, by the way, is undefeated, 15-0, 14 of those coming by way of knockout. I have fifth round KO, but I might be good decision.
00:24:44
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Okay, 23-2 with 15 KOs is Franklin. So, Josh, what do you got on this belt? I think this is a good fight, actually. And echo what Clever was saying, of course, Franklin, yeah, I think he probably is better served being a bit lighter than what he is. And at one point, he wasn't fighting full time. I believe it was after the Joshua fight or somewhere in there where it transitioned to where he was fighting full time. He came up, he came in a little better shape, I remember, I believe, in that fight than he did in
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in the one prior there with Dillian White in a fight that, of course, many thought that he won. but That being said, yeah, I think he's one of those guys that kind of is right there on the cusp, on the outside, you know, not probably won't make it to that top 10 in terms of where we view him and his value as far as heavyweights in the world.
00:25:43
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But he can hang in and around there, not a world beater or whatever it may be. Deitchco, he is a big, solid guy. think he's in the neighborhood of 6'8", 6'9", somewhere in that range. And his power seems to be legit, but it's you can argue it's only as legit as a level of competition as well. So this is no doubt a step up for him.
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It's not necessarily a step up for Franklin, but it's certainly ah heck of a test for Franklin. And i think Deitch Co.
00:26:17
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will ultimately prevail. I'm going to go TKO9. I think that he's going to have to come out and put on an actual showing that gets people mentioning that, hey, he deserves to be a name amongst these others out here. And I feel like there's no better time, no better platform and stage. The fact that he's on this platform, he's got to take advantage of it as far as I'm concerned.
00:26:41
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All right. no I mean, that's that's very, very astute analysis. Great job. um I do want to say, though, and this isn't when you're when you're thinking about this sort of thing, obviously, you have to take into account.
00:26:55
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um The fact that it is going to be, and this was mentioned before, and especially when it comes to heavyweights, but certain heavyweights fighting in different countries than their own and possible decisions of that. And I think it was you, Yale, that mentioned that one time on this show as well. So give me more about your thoughts on this matchup.
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Well, I mean, I don't know how you could possibly follow up what Josh has said. i think he he said it all, man. Honestly, I think this is one of those fights where it's a win-win for both fighters.
00:27:32
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um It really is a test for Dishko, and I just think this is the one fighter that he won't be able to stop, the one that can actually take him the distance. So, To be honest, I just want to take go by, you know, it's probably like unanimous decision, but for our boxing league, I'm going to take it a majority decision.
00:27:53
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Okay. All right. And I actually, you know, I grew up on loving math. I'm an i'm an analyst. I just like numbers. And since he has 14 KOs and 15 bouts, I'm just going to assume that that was going to happen again.
00:28:08
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then he's going to him again. But I do think it is going to be, as all these gentlemen mentioned, a much much harder fight than um than he's been ah put up to in the past.
00:28:19
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So I'm going to say it's going to be a late KO as well. I'll go, now let's say KO eight. <unk> I'll say this. If he does KO Franklin, like debts that's going to be very good. you know major name It's a major statement because he was been in it with Joshua and Deleon White and went the distance. So, um you know, it's going to be ah pretty big if he could do that.
00:28:39
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Yeah. And last I just said, I'd be interested in seeing what Franklin comes in at weight wise. Yeah, that's what I think. think he's at a good solid weight, then OK, that means he's locked in here in the training camp.
00:28:54
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Hopefully he's not at one of those heavier weights to where I can't remember when he last fought, but I feel like I hadn't seen him in a little bit now. But hopefully he comes in in top shape and that could you know really change things.
00:29:08
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00:29:43
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00:29:54
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00:30:12
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00:30:22
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Two and a half days in the wake up. You are a no. Two half days in a wake up, baby. Let's go. All right. Let's move it in to the next fight on this card.
00:30:34
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It's going to be Bohachuk. Versus Adams. And this is 12 rounds in the in the super welterweight.
00:30:44
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Bohachuk is 26-2 with 24 KOs. While Adams comes in at 25-4 with 16 KOs.
00:30:55
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So, Yayo, we're going to start with you on this one. Listen, man. um Adams, Brandon Adams is a very, very underrated fighter.
00:31:07
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All right. they People saw he had a little layoff and they thought he was going to come back and be rusty. And he came back and just put on a masterpiece. Feel me? He's one of those guys that, you know, he stays switched on. He's always ready.
00:31:22
Speaker
ah I, you know, I like Brandon Adams, you know, his boxing style. Now, the other guy, he's a killer. You know i'm saying? He's got one mission is to seek and destroy. He ain't trying to box.
00:31:37
Speaker
He trying to smash your head in. And unfortunately, i think he's meeting this match this match. I think he's going to run into a skilled boxer. He's not going to be able to load up and drop them hammers ah on on Adams like he usually did with other people because Adams is not going to be there be hit.
00:31:53
Speaker
And he's going to get tired from missing. And I think Adams is going to make it it look a little easier than what you know people think he could do. So I'm taking Adams by unanimous decision. I wouldn't be surprised if he stopped him lately.
00:32:08
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we defer i yeah There you go. adcy your nameous decision We got Walsh versus Vargas. I'm excited. Shout out Nate. Thank you for tuning in. We're going to talk about that in just a couple fights here.
00:32:20
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Josh, what are your thoughts on this fight? Yeah, so this is actually a rematch, and it's two fights in the making, I guess you can say, since they last met.
00:32:31
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And at that particular time, similar to now, Boachuk came in. He's kind of the guy that was knocking a lot of cats out. High motor, going to keep coming forward. and Adams was able to outbox him and found some spots and ultimately was able to stop him, which I think won't be too far off in this particular contest. I think that Bullchuk sits that time. He is now, of course, more battle-tested, but that that's that that being said, I don't know that he's necessarily elevated a level above Brandon Adams to where he's going to come in here it's going to be
00:33:09
Speaker
a largely different fight. So I'm going to stick with kind of what Yayo said there. I'm going to go Brandon Adams to pick up the victory, but I think decision this time will probably be suited. So I'm going to go split decision in favor of Brandon Adams, but it should be a very interesting fight, I would say.
00:33:31
Speaker
All right, there you go. Clubber D, what are your thoughts on this fight? ah Like like like Josh should said, you know, this is a rematch, um but, you know, Adams did stop him. But this was that was what 2021 writing a smack dad of covid, um not making excuse, but making one. And the only other time Bolchek lost was Virgil Ortiz, which was like, you know, they're fired a year. And he I thought he won that fight.
00:33:52
Speaker
um His last outing was against, ah I forgot that his first name, but Fox. it was It was a good fight. Fox is no slouch, and Bojic didn't look as much as a killer as he did against Ortiz. But I think for this fight, I actually have Bojic winning by decision. i think he's going to be a ah different man than the one that fought in 2021.
00:34:11
Speaker
And he wants to prove that he is who we say he is after his last performance that wasn't so great against Fox. He still got the dub, but I'm going with Bojic by decision.
00:34:22
Speaker
All right. There you go. So um in this fight, yeah, Boachuk, i when I have seen him fight, he's a very tough fighter. He's going to be able to take a lot of the punishment that the opposing fighter is is going to give him.
00:34:40
Speaker
He also is a very hard puncher himself. um Again, I'm just going to... go with logic here in terms of the numbers and who has more knockouts here in terms of, you know, I'm just going along with the, with the picks group.
00:34:58
Speaker
So I'm going to go at Boachuk as well. And I'm going to go KO. And I'm going to put that in the sixth round KO six. Okay. So,
00:35:08
Speaker
There you go. um All right, cool. Let's get to some comments here real quick. ah Let's see what we got here. We got... ah Oh, that's just y'all commenting.
00:35:19
Speaker
anyway You got power up on there. Power up. ah ri in a Oh, yeah, I think you already got him. My bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out Power Up. Nate, appreciate y'all tuning in. And then, all right, cool. So let's go ahead, move it into the next fight on this card.
00:35:35
Speaker
um This is going to be your M. Billy versus Martinez. Oh, no, no, no. Is that over Walsh? Oh, yeah, no. That should be the co-main, I believe.
00:35:46
Speaker
Okay, because in Bobby Live, they have Walsh under that. Oh, they do? I don't know. Damn. Damn. damn but um think i think I think the co-main is in Billy, Mark. That should be the co-main. That should be the co-main.
00:36:00
Speaker
Okay, let's do Walsh-Vargas here then. So we're going to go ahead here and switch that up. We're going to go to the Walsh-Vargas fight. So you got Callum Walsh, 14-0 with 11-0. with eleven 15 KOs versus Fernando Vargas Jr. 17 and 0.
00:36:17
Speaker
15 KOs, 10 rounds. Junior middleweights. Clubber D, let's start with you. What do you got in this fight? You know, was a big fan of the Vargas family. I love Fernando Vargas Sr. He's one of my favorite fighters. um Him, Mayweather, I think what David Reed was part of that Olympic team.
00:36:34
Speaker
um I thought he fought Trinidad a little too early, but if they get knocked out in 12th, that was a close-ass fight. But anyways... oh
00:36:43
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Now saw people saying like, this battle, the prospects. I don't know if Fernando jr. Still a prospect at 28. I could be wrong. Trust me. I'm not right all the time, but at 28, I'm still a prospect. Uh, Walsh, is definitely the prospect is about 24 years old. I believe 24, 26, one of two, but, ah He's a tad younger. he's Walsh is the hype trainer behind Dana White's UFC boxing.
00:37:04
Speaker
He's also dating a u ah UFC fighter. um I know the trash talk has gone little crazy where Fargus has made comments about his girlfriend and DMing him and things like that. I'm not a big fan of that stuff, but you got something.
00:37:17
Speaker
Yeah, it's the way Fernando's doing it. It's crazy. but ah oh i I feel like
00:37:26
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Fernando needs this fight more than Walsh does, and that's just because of the backing but but behind Walsh. He's also trained by Freddie Roach, so you know he got some sparring with Manny and everybody. ah So I actually, for this fight, i was going back and forth, back and forth on this one, but you know I'm being kind of...
00:37:44
Speaker
ah as my shirt says, petty on the reason I'm making this pick. But I'm going Walsh by decision. Because, you know, you're not going like ah racist tweets by certain people. Okay? I can't cant can't mess with you. So I'm going with Walsh on this one.
00:37:58
Speaker
All right, Walsh. And thank you, ah Yale, for the odds here. know what I'm talking about. Odds 330 favorite here for Walsh. Vargas Jr., the 245 underdog.
00:38:11
Speaker
Josh, what do you got on this fight? Yeah, this is an interesting one, and I kind of viewed it as a pick-em. Vargas Jr., course, he's following in the footsteps of his father. That can always be a touchy and tricky situation for a fighter.
00:38:29
Speaker
That being said, he's got some other brothers out there doing their thing as well. and they seem to be kind of separating themselves individually, kind of on their own little paths and whatnot.
00:38:41
Speaker
i I've seen some Kalem Wash, probably seen a little bit more Vargas. And I think it's a very interesting fight. You never know how. One will turn out until they step into one of those step-up matchups, and I think that's the case here for Vargas Jr. Walsh.
00:39:02
Speaker
I mean, he I believe he he'll hit the ball. Come game, he'll have that fighting in his blood representing for his country. So there's no doubt that he's going to be there to stick it all the way through.
00:39:14
Speaker
I'm going to lean on sort of the corner and pedigree behind Vargas Jr. So I'm going to take him via split decision in what will be an interesting context, I would say.
00:39:28
Speaker
Yeah, and just to answer Cliberty's question earlier that he had 24 years old, Callum Walsh. okay Fernando Vargas is 28. Gotcha. Also, both of these dudes, Yale, are heavy hitters. or ah Fernando Vargas has an 88 KO percentage, 15 and 17 wins, while Callum Walsh has a 79% KO percentage, 11 and 14 fights. So this is going to be a very hard-hitting battle, my friend. What do you think?
00:39:54
Speaker
Yeah, just like you said, man, the respect is going to be earned. You better bring your ass on for the main event, sucker. You better bring your ass on for tomato area ah the the respect is going to be earned pretty quickly.
00:40:09
Speaker
They're going to realize what but one another has. And to be honest, man, this was a tough one for me. Let me ask y'all this. Where is the fight at? Vegas.
00:40:21
Speaker
Later stadiums. Big crowd. Allegiant Stadium. Big crowd. They like to send the Europeans packing sometimes, don't they?
00:40:32
Speaker
don't know, fam. You got to understand, he's backed by Dana White. This man's been on Monday Night Raw plenty of times where they're like, oh, Kyle Ross, an up-and-coming fighter. Who's promoting this fight?
00:40:43
Speaker
This whole card. I got the fight on it. i gotta to go on the distance i got i i gotta i gotta split decision down i just don't know if it's walsh or vargas jr yeah gonna ride gonna ride with walsh split this is a tough one yeah but that's female tweets and the lol got me yeah Oh, I hadn't seen that.
00:41:08
Speaker
Yeah, that's when he did the bananas. um and he didn support any racism When he did the bananas to Keyshawn, he was laughing about it. Nah, bro. No racism to support him on this show.
00:41:23
Speaker
I do see Vargas can win. he's good hes This is a good fight. this is so be ah can We have three Friday nights on this card. What does Vegas want to do, man? Like,
00:41:34
Speaker
Are they trying to clean up this weekend? should you know is this another draw fight? bargain said The underdog, so very interesting. They lean towards the marketable Irish 24-year-old. They certain people. They get down crazy. Yep. They hit him with that shepherd's pie uppercut. Take that.
00:42:00
Speaker
hit with that shepherd's pie upper or cut like buy out but ah No, I mean, a seasonal seasonless. seasonless that <unk> No love. No love. Very seasonless. I'm with you, though. They're both going to be throwing uppercuts and it's going to be again. i If I'm looking at this with my eyes and I'm looking at the numbers, I want to take Fernando Vargas by K.O.B. And I'm also thinking because they both are heavy hitters like Are they both going to be able to go all the way to a decision without one of them getting knocked out or they going to stand toe-to-toe and one of them is just going to take the fall on their short kind of thing?
00:42:39
Speaker
So – so i'm i'm I'm convinced by the past decision arguments, and it kind of makes me want to lean towards a decision because you're making me think that both of these men can actually get through the 10 rounds without falling victim to KO.
00:42:55
Speaker
um But since I've been on the numbers kicking, since that's what I'm picking in the ah fight group, I'm going to stick with what I got. I'm to Fernando Vargas lineage type of pick here.
00:43:06
Speaker
KO, late KO though, you know I'm thinking even like a KO8, KO9 sort of situation. they just like They're brawling at the end and just like foul, just catches them sort of thing. yeah I guess I would be remiss if I didn't say you just Could end up being a stinker, too. So, you know, that's never off the table. Well, thanks a lot for just killing everything I said for you, Josh. Hopefully it's not a stinker, but hopefully they're not there and super cautious with each other, you know, but we'll see. Everybody gets hacked. They're going fight. They're going to fight. Nothing.
00:43:41
Speaker
Just tap me. Shout out. Let's see. Skywalker, I'll be on my badges getting home. All right, not a big deal. Then Nate says, I got Canelo, but I feel like Crawford is going to win just like Usyk did ah Fury. But if Canelo wins, it's good so we can see a Benavidez fight.
00:44:01
Speaker
Well, he ain't taking that fight. if I was going to say it. Wait a second. It's not happening. It's just a trail there. nu Unfortunately. He's not going out with a beatdown like that. Like Hall of Famer gets bludgeoned to death. They're trying to call them off. Bludgeoned death. Bludgeoned.
00:44:21
Speaker
yeah Oh, that's like crazy. i had to put ah and to put this banner up for the main event that we're about to get into. But no, that that's, i yeah, Nate, I think the the gentleman spoke on this last show that we did. But that fight, I think everybody consensus has it never happening in our lives. So, sorry.
00:44:39
Speaker
yeah sorry Anyways, all right, let's keep it moving. There we go. We'll move it into the co-main event of the evening. Papi Chunyeo, we're going to start with you on this one.
00:44:52
Speaker
Mbili, 29-0 versus ah Martinez, 19-0. So both two here undefeated fighters. Mbili, 30 years of age. Martinez, 29 years of age. Martinez does have a two-inch weight.
00:45:06
Speaker
height advantage on him their ko percentages are uh pretty much equal 84 to 83 percentage so again another hard hitting battle um and billy does have the uh experience by a lot of pro rounds actually it's uh gonna be let's see uh 59 pro rounds more than um than Martinez, which obviously shows in the record as well. He's also ranked number one ah by the ring, according to box live.
00:45:35
Speaker
So Bobby, how do you feel about this fight? Yeah, man. ah You know, unfortunately, i think in Billy is like he's a wrecking ball fan. And it's just go it's go be different.
00:45:49
Speaker
You what I'm I know Lester, you know, I'm saying he has he has an amazing record. um You know, he definitely has the ability to stop people. But in Billy, that that reach angle make a difference.
00:46:01
Speaker
A man is coming forward. He don't get tired and he's going to catch him. It's going to be early. But. I don't know. I just there's going to be a lot of knockdowns in this fight. um I think there's going to be like three knockdowns in this fight because old boy got mad heart and he just ain't going want to give it up like that. I think if Billy going damn near have to kill him and that's what's going to happen.
00:46:22
Speaker
So I want to say in Billy KO somewhere six to eight. But I think he's going to think I'll sit him down a few times.
00:46:35
Speaker
two Choose one, six or eight, please. so for the Six. We'll go with six. For the YouTube crowd. All right. KO6 for Mbilly. All right. Thank you for joining us there, Skywalker.
00:46:46
Speaker
so sorry, man. 8-7 Central, bro, is not 7 Eastern. So I got a big mix-up, bro. I forget that you're Central. so Right. But in in the post, I put Eastern time. Do you not know how to do the hour back? Is that what we're doing?
00:47:03
Speaker
What's up, homie? I even told Carlos i was all seven your time, bro. And because I had a Carlos from Fantasy Prediction League wanting to hop in and get his tape.
00:47:14
Speaker
So I sent him the link right now. in My bad. I'm so sorry, guys. I just just a busy day. But a much love to everybody and glad to be on. And you made it, brother. And we're talking about Christian ability, that Canadian super middleweight monster.
00:47:28
Speaker
oh He's been a putting people out quick, man. He's got that style, man, that, that swarm pressure. um I got him KO for this fight. KO for, for Skywalker. All right, cool. Uh, Josh, what, uh, what are your thoughts on this fight?
00:47:44
Speaker
Hey, this is for me, the most interesting fight on the card outside of, I guess the main thing you could say, uh, but man, I'm so torn and this is partially because i just like both fighters. I like both fighters in terms of what they bring to the table.
00:47:58
Speaker
and just in general, and man, it's been torn. It's been one that I've said it was kind of 50-50, but that experience edge is on the side of Mbili. Mbili is a bit more battle-tested, but that's not to say Martinez isn't ready to bring that hammer, you know, because he's got some pop to him as well.
00:48:16
Speaker
He has a win over Carlos Gungora, who's a solid fighter for sure, um but Mbili, he has, I guess, in totality, more of the better, I guess, more signature wins.
00:48:29
Speaker
And man, this is like a prime time. So no excuses for either of them. I think they're coming in both in their prime, ready to go. And it's going to be interesting for sure.
00:48:40
Speaker
Martinez out of Guatemala. I was about to say that. Don't see too many Guatemalan fighters getting to this level right here. I think he has that makeup, that championship style status in makeup.
00:48:54
Speaker
But Mbili, man, he's such a force and he goes nonstop. And man, he he's just been impressive his entire career because usually when you see guys who throw that amount of punches with that type of build that he has, they really don't tend to last in the later rounds. But that is opposite the case there with Mbili because he's winging these things for the duration. So you could argue he's built different in some sense.
00:49:21
Speaker
so Man, this is such a tough one here for me. Such a tough one. I mean that legitimately. I think that...
00:49:31
Speaker
Yeah, it's so freaking tough right there. I'm going to go the contest. Oh! Yo, draw! Oh! yo draw Yes, sir. All right. Well, just to let you all know and update you on these odds, M. Billy is a 170 favorite. Martinez, a 135 underdog. Clobber what do you have on this fight? Like everybody said, this is a tough fight. And and kind of like the the prior two fights we just talked about, this can be fight of the night without even going to the main event, which is going to be, hopefully, fingers fingers and toenails crossed is a big one as well.
00:50:04
Speaker
um My thing with Lester Martinez, he trains with Bommack and Crawford. um Bommack says that he gets stronger later in rounds.
00:50:16
Speaker
He's got to stay on that front foot. He's got to use that jab. He is a taller, bigger guy. But, ah you know, and Billy, you know, he's nonstop pressure. He has great endurance. He's going to to take you out. His last fight was a first-round knockout.
00:50:28
Speaker
I mean, he's knocked someone out. looked like he was sleuthing when he was going back. I mean, he got this might had some serious knock-the-race-off-your-face power. I know. And they are going to meet in the ring and kind of see who's go who's the who's the better fighter.
00:50:41
Speaker
And I feel like, you know, it's that scene from Creed, think part two, when you had the ah tire and they're in a desert and you put your foot in the tire with the other person, you're just going at it. oh yeah I feel like that's going to be this fight. And,
00:50:54
Speaker
um For some reason, Lester Martinez, shout out to a man, Glenn, who runs Auto Game Detailing out in Stafford, Virginia. That's the homie. He's from Guatemala. like Got a lot of close-to-ear friends out of Guatemalan. And then, you know, this man's born and raised in Guatemala, I think, city. I think it's where he's from. But, ah you know, he's a hell of a fighter, but...
00:51:17
Speaker
ah i gotta stick on my and billy ko in seven rounds okay i i got and billy winning in seven rounds but this is i'm gonna do a club or caveat i can also see uh lester winning in 10 rounds but i'm gonna in billion seven When I was looking at this, man, I didn't notice that it it was Lester Martinez. I thought it was it was a different Martinez, but this this is the one that beat Joshan James.
00:51:44
Speaker
Yep. Oh, this guy's a bad dude, bro. This is going to be, a like Josh said, this going to be a good, good fight. Talk about the fire right here both gun gore is the only opponent they both went against you know i think i think uh lester stopped him and and went to distance with and billy so you know fighters though you um yeah um lester martinez is is got that one one hitter quitter you know i mean like he's gonna put your ass to sleep with the the thunder the thunder And Billy is just constant motherfucking pressure getting cracked.
00:52:18
Speaker
So it's a different kind of power, both pretty pretty scary. It's going to be a good fight.
00:52:26
Speaker
Got one last question. Oh, my bad. Go ahead, though. My bad. No, go ahead. I would say, like, to me, this is like a ah ah ah poor man's Morrell versus Benavidez.
00:52:36
Speaker
Yeah. I don't think I would agree with that. Yeah, it is. Yeah, you're right. I think there's going to be a lot of 50-50 exchanges, right? Yeah.
00:52:47
Speaker
Because they both are crushers. And I just think, me, I think, and Billy's going to get to them faster. Me too. I just do. i see it I see it happen. I see somebody swinging, and I see somebody getting their furs, and, you know, you're just running right through it.
00:53:03
Speaker
Yeah, both of them do. Yeah. Yeah, both of them have something. Three plus knockdowns. Melatonin Awards coming up. ah so Hey.
00:53:15
Speaker
Go ahead. I was just go to say, I will say that in Billy, I think you mentioned Omar DeGeech. They have him rated number one there at 168, which I think is deserved. he put it He's put in some good work here. So this is a tough fight for him, a risky fight for him as well, as everyone kind of waits in line for that Canelo sweepstakes that everyone ultimately hopes to get.
00:53:39
Speaker
so it was risky fight.
00:53:42
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it is a very risky fight. And again, it's also just like the last couple fights we talked about, two very heavy hitters. These guys, again, are knocking out most of their opponents. But as you mentioned, ah you know...
00:53:57
Speaker
It seems like at least when you watch these fighters and Billy's power is just a little more powerful, like Skywalker was saying. i think you I think that's evident when you're looking at the TV.
00:54:11
Speaker
um So, yeah, I think it's going be a really great fight here as well. But again, I'm going to go in terms here of them both being really good fighters, good records, heavy hitters. I'm go to go with experience here.
00:54:22
Speaker
and And Billy is the one with the experience. So I'm going to go KO as well. Let's go. I don't know. Let's go KO eight. Maybe. I don't even know. I might have to change that later. so that's sound I'm knocking out even earlier than that. So probably like a KO six or seven. I would even say i had seven. What you have? ah ah yao I went with six.
00:54:45
Speaker
Okay, cool. Six, seven, eight. I like it. Since Lester it was, can I switch my pick? Of course you can. Yeah, sure. I'm going to do KO7 as well.
00:54:56
Speaker
That's okay. Yeah, a little later. I think. I ain't Vegas. ain't holding you to no bench. Yeah, yeah. No, KO7. I'm going go KO7 and Billy. And I think it's going to be like a – not a KO. It's going to TKO. It's going be a rough a ref stopping it because too many big shots being landed.
00:55:14
Speaker
yeah I can see that. Yeah. I might have to watch this one shoe on and I have pull a sleeve up just like that. I might just just sleeve up on this side, shoe off on the other side. might have watch it just mismatch like that. You know what I'm Let's see some comments here. Morning Wombat says, I'm backing Mbili here. I think he's the better athlete of the two, and I think he's fought the better opposition with Selecki and Derevchenko.
00:55:39
Speaker
um Everybody seems to agree with you there. morning warm yeah have to ah you interviewed that with shaco We appreciate you tuning in, brother. what'd you say number You interviewed him, Devinchenko.
00:55:49
Speaker
Yes, I did. He's crazy. I cheated on some fights. I tell you, you got cheated against Triple G. Triple G, I thought he won that fight. He won that fight. He went on the tough end of some decisions for sure.
00:56:06
Speaker
I thought he got Charlo also. That Munguia fight was good. You know, I was. Oh, Munguia. Munguia. Yeah, that's what i thought he got. Yeah, Munguia. Fight of the year. Yeah, that was fight of the year.
00:56:17
Speaker
Man, we just seen a fight of the year the other day, guys. i don't know if you guys were watching that dad fight the other night. ah You know, uh, Damn, Diaz and Sugar Nunez for the IVF strap. Oh, I need to see it.
00:56:29
Speaker
I called highlights. i didn't see I need to watch that that full that full fight. I want to call the highlights of it. Holy shit. Watch that whole fight if you can get a chance. That fight was fight of the year for me so far. Oh, there you go. There's a recommendation for you. and Go check that out, y'all.
00:56:44
Speaker
Fight of the year for me. So for Skywalker, Sugar Nunez, and Diaz, man, for that IVF strap. Wow. ah Diaz came to fight, man. That was a good fight. And by the way, yeah, that reminds me, i want to mention again that that in Billy Martinez is for the interim WBC super middleweight title. So it is for an interim title. and Maybe the winner gets a shot at Canelo, potentially.
00:57:09
Speaker
If Canelo wins. New undisputed. Might be issues of Lester wins because he trains for BOMAC and that's that's Crawford's trainer. So it might be a little, ah you know. Those are up for grabs.
00:57:22
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Mm-hmm. But maybe Crawford, and it'll be his swine song if he wins. You should. Like, I'm done. don't know. Nothing else to do. Nothing else. Appreciate the love, Just Frank. Thank you for tuning in. Appreciate everybody tuning in.
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00:57:51
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00:58:06
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00:58:21
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Cool. Jose Diaz, there's the biggest size difference. I think he's referring to the last conversation that you gentlemen were having. So we'll go there. And now we're going to get into the main event of the evening, what we all came for.
00:58:38
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Yes, one of the biggest fights in, I mean, most of the memory that I have. um and I don't even want to say recent memory. It's just like in memory. ah We got Canelo, Saul Alvarez, 63-2-2 versus Terrence Budd, the illest you-know-what from Nebraska Crawford.
00:59:01
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And we got them coming in at 41-0 undefeated, by the way. And let's not forget, Crawford here is going to try to become the first men's boxer to be undisputed champion in three weight classes in the four belt era.
00:59:17
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ah Clarissa Shields just recently did that for the women's side when she defeated Danielle Perkins for the heavyweight title in July. Professor's fun fact there. um But anyways, when we're looking at this, let's look at the odds. The odds are 180 favorite in terms of Alvarez.
00:59:34
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Crawford is a 145 underdog. Crawford is two years older and one inch shorter. We also have all heard about the size difference. Obviously, moving up two ah weight classes is huge, going from 147 to which you're up at Wowzers.
00:59:59
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What a huge, huge main event club or D we are starting with you. What are your thoughts on this fight? Well, I mean, a
01:00:10
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when I first, we first talked about this a while ago, i was like, you know, styles, styles, not styles make fights, but there's weight classes for a reason and things of that nature. Um, Crawford last fought at 154 over a year ago. So he's had time to put the proper weight on and train correctly for this fight.
01:00:28
Speaker
um Charlo came out in a recent interview saying that he wished he would have held more weight when he came, when he fought Canelo. And he just put on his track shoes the whole fight. um i i really honestly feel...
01:00:42
Speaker
Crawford will have a great ah game plan. He's not a runner for all you fans saying that he runs. He doesn't run, so what are you talking about? um I think he's going go to the body. I think he's going to do his best to keep Canelo off him because the main thing is go be hitting the arms. Canelo's just trying to bruise him anywhere. You know what i'm saying?
01:00:59
Speaker
I think that's going Canelo's um ah game plan going into this fight. Canelo's going to the bigger guy, obviously. I'm... i'm going to go with a split decision. I'm going to go with Crawford because you cannot. There's no way in hell you're going to win your dance play against Canelo.
01:01:22
Speaker
There's no way. Ask Floyd. Ask Bivol. We've all seen those fights. I'm going to go with Crawford split decision. caveat ah draw See, this is crazy because when I was making my pick earlier, Clever D, I was thinking about all the times we've talked about this fight over the past couple years since it was first and announced.
01:01:43
Speaker
And I was thinking about all the times you mentioned that size difference is just going to be too much. And a lot of people agree with you. A lot of people that have been talking about this this week, including Mike Tyson, came out and said as much as he wants Crawford to win, he thinks the size difference is just going to be too much. So Mike Tyson agrees with you.
01:02:01
Speaker
with you there. ah But then you look at somebody like Teddy Atlas who comes in and points out that just like you had mentioned just now in Canelo's last fight, not as active anymore. How can that affect the fight as we're coming in?
01:02:16
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Plus, as you mentioned as well, Crawford has had time to gain into that actual weight that he's building into. So all of these things, as I was thinking about my pick, I'm also analyzing these things and I'm thinking,
01:02:29
Speaker
And now that you've said this, I'm like, that damn, we were we were thinking along the same exact line. So that's crazy. But yeah, there you go. Josh, what do you think about all this? Man, this is crazy. This is crazy.
01:02:43
Speaker
I'll try not to be long winded. Now leading up to this, i've been going I've been leaning, no stranger to leaning towards Canelo in all of the previous conversations I've had surrounding this. I've ah leaned in the direction of Canelo Alvarez, factoring in kind of the size, his status there, being solidified at 168 pounds.
01:03:07
Speaker
then what it is and what it means for Bud Crawford to jump up two weight classes to try and take out the top dog at that weight class. but i've thought long and hard over it for several weeks now and even here within the last week or so even harder you know i'll say that you know but there's just something about him he is mentally tough he's 100 dedicated to this he's going about everything the right way tactful uh
01:03:40
Speaker
He's meticulous. He's going to make sure that he's he comes in there 100% ready to go, and he's put on the weight the right way, which is all you can ask for. and There's something about those guys who don't blow up in the offseason or whatever you you want to call it, who don't get far beyond what they generally walk around at or whatever it may be.
01:04:03
Speaker
And I think he is one of those guys. He doesn't smoke, doesn't drink. He's 100% dedicated to this sport. And you know, he's got some dog in him. And I just feel like he has some of that dog in him that might be a little bit different, you know, coming up in Omaha, Nebraska.
01:04:20
Speaker
Bud Crawford, Omaha, Nebraska. I can only imagine there in school and all of that stuff. And he said he used to have to fight all the time. I can only imagine the Jones and the joking and all that stuff that built him up.
01:04:33
Speaker
Mentally, I think he's mentally tough. He's mentally there. I always say that a it's interesting, but we have some historical precedent in terms of a great smaller fighter growing up to be a great bigger fighter. And you could argue, okay, where were they at?
01:04:52
Speaker
whether or not they were both in their primes or whatever, but thinking Carmen Basilio, Sugar Ray Robinson. So Basilio was welterweight champion of the world, went up to beat the middleweight champion, Sugar Ray Robinson. And this was a case where you didn't have the in-between 154-pound class.
01:05:06
Speaker
So essentially like jumping up two weight classes, you have Leonard going up, beat Hagler by that same token. Duran went up, beat Leonard. and You could say the top style of fight did he fall. And I think about guys like Barbados JoWalkov, who was fucked but 40, and he could knock out heavyweight stings of that nature. And this is going way back there.
01:05:28
Speaker
So what I'm saying, I say that to say that, man, as I've thought about it and looked at sort of how Crawford has approached this, his confidence and overall expectations and taking nothing away from Canelo, because I think he is one of those guys who makes it a situation where a smaller great fighter is fighting a bigger great fighter, but I'm going to go ahead, sign, seal, deliver, and say Terrence Crawford wins this fight. I'm taking that decision. I'm going to say split decision, but I'm going to go with Terrence Crawford.
01:06:10
Speaker
And as I mentioned previously, I've been all in on Canelo, but I just think that there's something. And Crawford has that makeup of some of the guys that I mentioned, like the Basilios, et cetera, who will go up.
01:06:23
Speaker
And hey, they're not going to be shook or afraid about what's coming back at them because they're on a single mission. And that mission is driven by their own mentality. So I'm going Crawford, split decision.
01:06:35
Speaker
Wow. And and yeah, you know you you make a good point there because Virgil Hunter, you all know him, who has trained Andre Berto, Andre Ward, so on and so forth, ah is said that Crawford will have to go ahead and absorb all of you know Alvarez's punches. Now, Crawford holds a three and a half inch reach advantage, but that doesn't mean that if...
01:06:57
Speaker
Canelo is able to catch Crawford, which is ah if with Crawford's speed, that he does still have heavy hands, especially at that bigger weight. So Hunter said Alvarez will have to quicken his pursuit, as you mentioned, right?
01:07:12
Speaker
um Obviously, Canelo is going to have to work to cut off the ring at different points and get in front of him. Yale, what are your thoughts on this huge, huge main event? Man, I ain't even tripping about none of this shit. yeah what Really, you know ah as ah as a fan of the sport and ah as a fan of the boxers, I can say this.
01:07:34
Speaker
Canelo Alvarez is a great fighter. Bud Crawford is a great fighter. but it's some bullshit ass fans out here, fam. And them motherfuckers got me in my bag. Like, oh, it's the blacks versus the Mexicans. No, man, it's two athletes versus two athletes.
01:07:50
Speaker
right But since y'all motherfuckers been talking a lot of shit, big shit. Listen, I'm going to give y'all some game real quick. A lot of people say that 10 pounds of fat weighs more than 10 pounds of muscle.
01:08:04
Speaker
You ever heard that before? Mm-hmm. I've heard it. hear it totally. I thought it was the other way around. No, muscle weighs more than fat. Oh, muscle weighs more than fat. If it's 10 pounds of muscle and it's 10 pounds of fat, don't they weigh the same?
01:08:18
Speaker
They both 10 pounds, right? Yeah, true. true thank you So listen, man, where a when we get to the weigh-in, both of them are going to be on weight. That means they both weigh the same amount, right? yeah I don't know what's fat and I don't know what's muscle.
01:08:31
Speaker
But what I do know is Vegas does not want Canelo to lose. Black folks don't want Crawford to lose. Mexican folks don't want Canelo to lose. It's about to be like a mini Civil War, but a man, listen.
01:08:45
Speaker
OK, I'm um betting two times. I hope I'm riding with Crawford by split decision just because, you know I'm Mexican people have pissed me off for the last long. The shit they've been saying about us.
01:08:59
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? I'm taking Bud by split decision one way, and then I'm taking a split. I will call it a split draw. I think it'll probably be one one card in favor for Canelo and two draws, one fourteen one fourteen then but um But, you know, inside, i'm hoping um um I hope Bud beat Breaks off that, motherfucker.
01:09:19
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? listen, man, you do not have to take punches, fam. I want to be pissed off watching this fight. I want i want three punches to land for a round. I want all three of them to be buds.
01:09:32
Speaker
You know i was saying? That's what I want to see. I want to be ugly so I can talk some slow shit to you, motherfucker. Slow shit. That might be new slogan. Slow shit. Slow shit.
01:09:43
Speaker
Hey, David slays Goliath. We done seen it in history before. One Goliath, a redhead giant, you gots to go. Canelo went up and fought Kovalev. He jumped to what, three?
01:09:55
Speaker
Two or three weight glasses? Kovalev was fighting Canelo like he was sparring with his grandmama. He had just fought Yard. He just fought him like a month ago. Kovalev didn't punch Canelo hard at all. Right timey.
01:10:16
Speaker
I completely ah you know agree with what you said about all of the different factions, right? It's Mexican Independence Day. So, of course, ah you know the the contingent is going to be in Vegas, hard pause, but also um ah it's his weekend usually,
Canelo vs. Crawford: Style and Strategy Discussion
01:10:35
Speaker
right? That's like his mid-weekend in Vegas to go out there and show show show off in front of everyone.
01:10:42
Speaker
That's the boy Mayweather's. That's Floyd Mayweather's big weekend, remember? Did take a mile my birthday Floyd say, lookloy said let me hold that,
01:10:53
Speaker
so But when you also look at it, right, Turkey Alashik wanted this fight for a reason. He does like Crawford, right? yeah And when you're in Vegas, you see these things all the time with these fights.
01:11:04
Speaker
You know, how are they really, are they really decided the right way? So I can completely see everything that has been said, split decision, split draw. but I can see every ridiculous card out there that could be for this fight.
01:11:17
Speaker
What do you think, Skywalker? Hey, respect to to both fighters is a good fight. Uh, I know it's a two weight class difference. Um, Canelo, you know, his last fight against skull, he was, you know, uh, in a, in a, in a tough fight, having to chase skull down skulls running the whole fight.
01:11:37
Speaker
Um, but, but Crawford, uh, he had a, a bland performance against, but against a very good fighter in Majumov. You can't, you know, Majumov monster, right?
01:11:48
Speaker
oh I'm not counting Bud out on this fight at all. He's put on the put on the the weight correctly. It looks nice. um He's a great counter puncher. I think that Canelo is going to be very hesitant on his attacks. We're not going to see an explosive Canelo. I agree with Mornin Wombat. We're kind of seeing the tail end of a great fighter in Canelo. This is towards the end of his career.
01:12:12
Speaker
And you know this legacy fight, Bud is the kind of fighter, I'm giving him way more credit than what they gave Jermell Charlo. And and like there's a lot of believers in Jermell, and we've seen what Canelo did to Jermell.
01:12:29
Speaker
um I got Canelo by decision. I don't think he's gonna get Bud out of there. i think he's gonna be very cautious with Bud because Bud's a very good, one of the best counter punchers in the game, the best switch hitter in the game, you know what i mean?
01:12:41
Speaker
So he's going to have to be very ah intelligent and and cautious with Bud. um i do I'm not counting Bud out. if I believe Bud could win this if he can score a lot of nice counters on Canelo's offense and just stay away from him, kind of like how Skoll did, you know get around the ring and and outbox. He can possibly outbox Canelo.
01:13:05
Speaker
So that's that's my theory. If Bud wins, I believe Bud will win by decision, not by knockout, but a very nice nice fight. and But, yeah, I got Canelo by decision, man.
01:13:16
Speaker
What kind of decision? Unanimous. unanimously Unanimous. Unanimous decision. All right, cool. Let's get to the comments here, as he was mentioning, more Morning Wombat. I think Canelo is too complacent at this point of his career. The old Canelo who fought Trout and Lara would have cut off the ring.
01:13:30
Speaker
He allowed Skull to circle him for most of the fight. Clever D did say Lara's footwork complicated. Canelo, was a close fight, in my opinion. Jose Diaz, why did boots do that? Skywalk. Oh, that was a comment you were saying about Skywalk. got you. Salute to Bruce Gass, Boxing Jazz and More. We appreciate you tuning in.
01:13:51
Speaker
Morning Wombat also says he seems very entitled because he is Canelo and he's been a big star for so long. Let's not forget after Bebel outclassed him, Canelo was claiming he won the fight.
01:14:03
Speaker
I think that Crawford is hungrier. ah He then goes on to say, my main concern is the fact that I think Bud has to outbox Canelo to win, and Canelo always seems to get the benefit of the doubt, as I was mentioning just a couple minutes ago, on the scorecards in Vegas.
01:14:21
Speaker
it's there Yayo comes in. Canelo had trouble with smaller fighters. Jose Diaz says he looks super dehydrated. ah Yayo says Canelo's output is trash.
01:14:34
Speaker
Jose Diaz has parents by decision. So there you go. I'm wondering how much Canelo's going to weigh day of the fight because i remember when he fought Amir Khan or even when fought Koto, just like two separate weight classes when they fought.
01:14:48
Speaker
Like Khan said, he was Damian Cruiserweight when they fought and he... you know, knocked his head off his shoulders. And when he fought Cotto, he looks so much bigger. don't know if it was just because he's trying to get revenge on Cotto's older brother that had him rocked back in the day. But, you know, i really wondering how big Cano's going to come in for this fight. And I think the key really for Crawford is going to good to the body.
01:15:11
Speaker
Like Roy Jones thinks he's going to stop him to the body later in the fight, which be very interesting. Roy thinks that will stop Canelo. Yep, to the body. Hey, I said something.
01:15:22
Speaker
I would aim in on it. I wanted to note that I know they announced who the judges are. I can't remember who the judges are. The referee is going to be Steve Taylor, who I think is a solid referee.
01:15:33
Speaker
Got some good experience and all that stuff. So he should let them fight. And he's not the type to jump in there and take a point or anything in quick. So I think, yeah, this could play out in a multitude of ways here. So it was very interesting.
01:15:48
Speaker
Very compelling fight at that as well. And then I was going to think, I was also just thinking of here the back of my head. Remember when Kell Brook jumped up to middleweight to fight Triple G? Oh, yes. We got Brook now. And I like Brook at that time. And I and i think he's legit.
01:16:05
Speaker
But man, he just couldn't handle them shots. Now, that being said, Crawford, I think he the way he's gone about it, he's going to be a little bit better. set was that Was that after Earl Spence?
01:16:16
Speaker
The fight directly after Earl Spence? I think it was the one before it actually. I think it was before. Because he he wasn't ever the same after that eye socket. Oh, no, you're right. in with that it was I think it was after it actually. this because early No, that's the other socket that got broke.
01:16:33
Speaker
Yeah. I think he had both of them broken. Both of them broke? Okay. The fight 2017. I know that for sure. Yeah. Crawford did them dirty too. Yeah, he got that other one. Because he was never the same after that after that ah triple G. I was like, oh, Jesus. So that's kind of a recent example of where a smaller guy, we don't think got that hurt and put on him. But that being said, Canelo, he did start out at like 140, the low 140s or something like that. Sometimes he was younger.
01:16:59
Speaker
So it's been a gradual rise for him. Crawford started out 135. And it is interesting that he's only had that one fight at 154. So it's almost like, hey, you're jumping up 40 weight classes in some sense, know, but very interesting. And that usually happens with most boxers as they get older, right? They're going to gain weight. They're going to get bigger. They're going to sort of move up in divisions.
01:17:22
Speaker
And if they're a great boxer, like a Clarissa Shields, like a Terrence Crawford, like a monster in a way, like these fighters that can move up multiple divisions and win world championships, when you're that good,
01:17:33
Speaker
sometimes weight just doesn't matter. Now, obviously that's harder to say in combat sports because weight does make a difference most of the time. But when you have a skilled fighter such as Terrence Crawford, sometimes you can just kind of throw the the difference out of the window sometimes if you really think that his skill is above and beyond. And when you look at Robert Garcia, the trainer of World Junior Bantamweight Champion Bam Rodriguez, he He agreed with you, Yale, and he was saying and and Skywalker, and he was saying it doesn't really matter
01:18:04
Speaker
um who he's facing, right? He needs to be able to move, and as Josh was saying, move quickly to the body, duck out of the way, stay out of the way of of of punches of Canelo, ducking and moving, sticking to the body, and just trying to capture points, um you know, at the end of rounds. He said
Canelo's Career Choices and Fight Stipulations
01:18:21
Speaker
he's goingnna have to have ah the perfect fight at the beginning.
01:18:23
Speaker
In those first six rounds, he's going to have to gain those points on Canelo then, because obviously as the fight goes on, right, those heavier punchers weigh on is what he said. and And as I'm looking at it, right, I'm agreeing with Also, with what Skywalker said, when you look at Canelo's last fight, especially, but the last four or five fights, honestly, his his activity has precipitously, yes, Clever D, precipitously decreased his um and his And he's just not as quick as he used to be. And if you still have Terrence Crawford, who is quick and can stick and move and can possibly stay away from those limit punches, from those really heavy Canelo punches.
01:19:08
Speaker
I want to ask you guys something, too. This is what might happen in the fight. What happens when you have two high IQ fighters in the ring? What happens? Ugly. it's a not a good It's not a good matchup. stlessli does sometimes Somebody's going to have to press the issue.
01:19:23
Speaker
No. We made him quit. Nope. we made him quit nope uh-uh the IIQ fighters are not gonna wanna they're gonna be very uh cautious of each other right grab him and hold when you inside bud wrap his ass up wait do you like the ball do like the ball got in the pocket did we had to do them stepped away as good we all got in a pocket did we had to do them stepped away And Canelo was against the rope, like, come on, come on. I was like, no, no, no.
01:19:54
Speaker
So, yeah, it'll be interesting to see who's going to on the front foot or whatnot. i think both are pretty decent countering or very good countering both of them. So, yeah, that's going to play back. I guess that reach edge being in favor of Crawford got to count for something. Let me look at it. And then you see him standing there, I mean, Crawford, hey, he looks like he's done about it the right way.
01:20:18
Speaker
I mean, he has three and a half inch reach, as you mentioned. He can stick and move. He get in there. He's put the weight on properly, as you said. And if we look at this way too, gentlemen, if we think about this way, Canelo has been basically choosing, not basically, he has been handpicking opponents the past at least five, 10 fights, which he knows he's going to win most likely.
01:20:38
Speaker
um He's also in Vegas most of the time where the judges have his background are going to give him decisions when they can. Also, um He has ran like he did in the skull fight.
01:20:51
Speaker
but Crawford, on the other hand, now this is comes into the point that you just mentioned. If Canelo does run and does hold and does try to stay away from those stick and move punches of Crawford, then Crawford won't be able to fight him like he did in Earl Spence when they were both getting in there and he was able to knock him down three times.
01:21:08
Speaker
Right? So... i Yeah, no, i I really want to go with Crawford because I think, as y'all mentioned, he did everything the right way. And he has consistently gotten better year after year after year and hasn't slowed down yet while Canelo has.
01:21:25
Speaker
ah The only thing that I come back to and we'll get, yeah, I see you wanted to say something. The only thing I get back to is how is it going to be judged again in Vegas when Canelo usually has that sort of advantage, right? Go ahead.
01:21:38
Speaker
What's the biggest shit talking that Crawford's been doing to Canelo? He's been, he's been talking to, or I mean, what Canelo has been telling Crawford is, is it's like, who have you fought? Who's Ricky Burns? You know, who are your opponents?
01:21:51
Speaker
So a lot of people have questioned Crawford's resume. You know what i'm saying? You know, the, the Errol Spence fight just put them fucking, I mean, way up top. I mean, yeah, undisputed at 140, but lot of people questioned, you know, how, how he got there and,
01:22:06
Speaker
i mean he went up against some good fighters i mean i think that of course it's not like those superstars that he was fighting but that being said i mean if you even compare it to history there are always these good fighters contenders in and around the weight classes or whatever so i think he went up against a lot of good fighters contenders who were competing at that particular time, you know, and had he been over there on the PBC side, and could have gotten a hold of the likes of the Porter Spence's and Ugas type earlier, then I think he would have showed himself to be who he is then as well. But unfortunately, the boxing politics got in way, you know.
01:22:49
Speaker
my My caveat to a lot of that stuff, when i I hear certain fans say that, who is Crawford Fault, my caveat is also, Who did Canelo fight without a stipulation or where were they in their in her career?
01:23:02
Speaker
OK, you fought Amir Khan and that was at a catch weight, I believe. You fought Cotto and you're way bigger than him. You you you drain people. you You say they can only come in a fight weighing a certain amount. Like, Charlo could only be 10 pounds over when they fought. there's a lot of stipulations on who he fights, even though they're big names. I'll give him Austin Trout. I'll give him that all day.
01:23:21
Speaker
But after Mayweather, when Mayweather drained him those two pounds, since then, it's kind of like he's always dictated the rules on when he fights somebody and how he fights somebody. You know, so that's always my caveat to that. Yes, they're names. But if I if I played against Magic Johnson in 93, when he had HIV, wasn't saying Magic in 88. You know what mean? So it's like it's just Magic Johnson.
01:23:42
Speaker
i be I didn't guard him. You know what saying? hey, the head shot. I'm not Carmelo. don't be a Shashi Santana. my speaking and Where's Jake at? Where's Jake at, man? You know what means things he's saying? He's saying it with his chest.
01:23:56
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Yeah, Jake, Jesus Christ. hey i mean ah s good One other thing, because I was just thinking of it, and not that it is a one for one or necessarily apples to apples. i was just thinking, say Crawford, we know he's a great fighter. And you look at Canelo opponents. If Crawford was moving up, jumping these weight class, he took on Jack Ryder or.
01:24:18
Speaker
Zach Ryder, the Ryder guy, John Ryder. I would pick Crawford. William Skoll, wouldn't we pick Crawford over William Skoll, even if he's jumping up over him? So maybe some of that factors in as well, you know, and it it just depends on, I think the onus is going to lie largely on Canelo to look like his old self. Yep.
01:24:41
Speaker
That greatness of Canelo that ah he was able to garner, he's to have to bring that out, I believe, in this contest. Canelo's record is not going to reflect that he tried to fight Macaboo and Cruz. Oh, Macaboo, yeah. Oh, golly. The record's not going to reflect that he tried to do that.
01:24:59
Speaker
yeah We all know we all all know that's some bullshit. They did a face-up. thank They did a face-off somewhere. Pasuda with a side of Pasuda. Man, and they almost saw that bullshit.
01:25:12
Speaker
Well, that's that strategy stuff right there because he could have got up there and potentially could have gotten Cruiserweight title, you know, that strategy right there. He would have got that record. He would have got that belt for sure. That's why he was going to do it. No challenge. Maybe I'll give him...
01:25:25
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no challenge <unk> i you love give them go ahead i I give him credit for the plant fight for sure. For sure. yeah You know, that that was a tough fight.
01:25:37
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? And c plant really plant really tried to do what he could do. So yeah I give him credit for that. Canelo has had some great fights, man. But he's yet listen, fellas, he's not Superman.
01:25:48
Speaker
We've seen this dude get beat. We've seen him get cleaned up. People act like the dude ain't, like he's unstoppable. The only thing that's unstoppable on that dude is his chin.
01:25:59
Speaker
We've never seen him being cracked. I don't think Bud could crack his chin. He once. He was on skates when ah Kodo's brother fought him back in the day. That's the only time.
01:26:10
Speaker
That's the only time. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, the dude's got one of the best chances of boxing fans. So, yeah, you know, I just don't I don't see yeah only person I could possibly see in the canvas, but I hate to say that shit.
01:26:21
Speaker
But we know that that level, so I'm serious. You don't know if it's going down low or it's coming up top. So, you know, like I said, grab him and hold him. um Ask Charlo. He felt that hook, and then he said, I'm going run.
01:26:35
Speaker
I'm just going to run. Charlo went and laid on the ropes. He's like, oh, okay. That's a million. That's a million. but That's a million. Bud would do better than Charlo. Charlo really wasn't trying to engage much. Not at all. Very, very cautious. I feel like Bud, he's got something in him where I think that he's going to go for some things.
01:26:55
Speaker
Once he gets the range, I think, once Bud gets the range down, um That's really going to dictate the fight. If you realize where he needs to be to kind of keep Canelo ball from and have Canelo come in, Paul's, that's going to be really the how the fight's going go.
01:27:10
Speaker
or Wowzers thats that one. I stayed myself. Let's get to some comments here. here Jose Diaz offered by decision. Holy canilies.
01:27:23
Speaker
oh Andrew G says, shout out Andrew G. Thank you for tuning in. Says boring fight when you have two high IQ fighters. ah Jose Diaz says if they have IQ, they got to show up sometime. Right. You got to start throwing punches.
01:27:37
Speaker
um Shout out Picasso. Says, salute everyone. Skywalker wouldn't do. um Yale comes back, says Canelo has been beaten before, isn't invincible.
01:27:48
Speaker
Says we can't act like Canelo didn't grab the cocaine belt without beating the... Sometimes kind I should read these comments before I put them up. Canelo learned afterwards, Mayweather, how to conduct his fights.
01:28:04
Speaker
ah Picasso, you get better, man. Yeah, definitely. Facts. Bommack and Bob blocked the Pacquiao fight. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then Andrew G finally says, Badu Jack killed Macaboo.
01:28:18
Speaker
So, yeah, Canelo would have destroyed him easy. wo I mean, do you guys give credit to Canelo if he beats Bud convincingly? Like just. Yeah.
01:28:28
Speaker
so Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Where would you rank them amongst all of the best Mexican fighters like Julio Cesar Chavez, Salvador Sanchez, you know, all of them.
01:28:40
Speaker
Not even close. He's not not even top five, fam. If we keep it a around. Because they don't respect him. I think he's top five. I don't think. If he've not got five clubberd me updated is short um he's He's top five for me. I think I have him at four. He's not I'm going to do a video on the most disrespected Mexican fighter in history, so I'll say that.
01:29:07
Speaker
Him not fighting David Benavidez gets him some get them some negative spot rankings. Yeah, that does, though. I agree with that. yeah That's a bad one. And the people are calling for it.
01:29:18
Speaker
Even Nacho Laird says something about it. yeah He's in the running there for top five. I think he's in the running, but it's tough me when you really break it down and look at things special. If you look at it on paper, individual thought, but I think he definitely is in the running there.
01:29:36
Speaker
would have to think a little bit harder about it, but I think from an accomplishment standpoint, he that's going to help to elevate him, you know? That's going to be a little bit different, you know, in terms of for some of the guys back in the day when it was just a single belt to be undisputed in this four belt era, you can become a unified champion and stuff a little bit differently, you know? So Bevo said, Bevo said he wanted to touch him up at 168 too. He went, Oh yeah, he did. He ducked that smoke.
01:30:07
Speaker
He went that that's smoke. But like I said, I have been picking Canelo leading up until this point, but I've i've switched my pick to Crawford. I
Judging Concerns in Vegas Fights
01:30:16
Speaker
just think Crawford's going to have it, you know?
01:30:20
Speaker
Yeah, and again, I i mean, Clever D and I have talked about this fight for, going I mean, since it got announced going on two two years, more than two years now. and And everybody going along the way had agreed. It was kind of, you know, the size difference, things like that. But again, two years is a long time.
01:30:34
Speaker
And a lot of things can change. And a lot of things have changed. And I agree with I agree with Yale. um He's not going to knock. He's not going knock him out. He's probably not even going to knock him down. If he's going to win, it's going to have to be.
01:30:46
Speaker
by decision. ah But I'm looking at the trends. Again, I'm an analyst. I look at the numbers. I look at trends. If I see Canelo is going one way in his fights, and I see Crawford is still going the other way in his fight, well, I am only to assume that that's the way it's still going to continue. But then I have to layer in the factor of Vegas, Mexican independence weekend, Canelo getting all of these kind of decisions that maybe he doesn't deserve.
01:31:14
Speaker
And I am going off the cuff and we're doing it. A draw. straight draw. Just the worst shenanigans ever. Yes, money. That's exactly right.
01:31:27
Speaker
That's what i said. I said ah a Crawford by split or a draw. You make a lot of money for a part of the score. I'm going to put some money in. I'm going to do it bug it. Whatever. I'll put $10 on it. We'll see what happens. they mentioned ah As I had mentioned, they announced who the judges were. I just don't have it off top. But they're seasoned.
01:31:43
Speaker
We got seasoned judges, the seasoned official. You know? yeah Man, hold up a second. Let me see if can find who the judges are. i Watch it be like a 11th round Crawford knockout to the body on Canelo.
01:32:01
Speaker
yo how many how many fighters has canelo fought that has come up from like two weight classes listen no no jose sito lopez oh yeah yeah jose sito lopez yeah making miguel miguel codo then he fought america um then he fought america next next not later but nextx ah
01:32:33
Speaker
and then you got uh okay then i mean you got you got mail and then you got you got butt and you mean you can't forget about you know we all know what floyd did to him well hold on ya yell how many times do you get gifted the wba fight when you fight liam smith uh mosley wait a minute shane mosley too he did like mostly mostly was pretty much past yeah he was done that's what saying the times when he fought these fighters when he fought them they were kind of you know
01:33:08
Speaker
what are we What are we making the case for here? Are you saying this dude's one of the greatest fighters ever? and We talk about people who could have possibly been fighting at 140 135 pounds and the amateurs?
01:33:20
Speaker
You know what i'm saying? Like that, bro, that shit is crazy. Yeah, it gets a bit more nuanced than the record alone when you factor in those types of things right there. will say it does. People out here are calling us monkeys and shit and this motherfucker is out here fighting.
01:33:34
Speaker
He out here bullying little dudes. go true I guess the solace would be that Candelo, you know, he did start lower. I think he might have been in the low 140s or something like that.
01:33:47
Speaker
And he burst on the scene but by the same token. He was 15, I believe, when he turned pro. So he's kind of grown up in the sport and he didn't have an amateur background. So he's kind of learned on the job there in terms of working his way up here.
01:34:03
Speaker
But no, you're right. But I definitely
01:34:12
Speaker
but i definitely don't view him as the number one Mexican fighter of all time. No, sure. I know, but some people have him there at that marker, you know. Salvador Sanchez. Angel Diaz says who's the Cesar is the best. That's Mike. He's the best.
01:34:30
Speaker
I got another guy, but I'll say it later. percent she Um, Andrew, uh, Angel also says they haven't been in the ring for a long time. So he's seeing a little bit of ring rust, uh, here.
01:34:42
Speaker
Um, and then Andrew G says they want to preserve the two fighters. That's right. Draw. Um, and in that regard, I had kind of brought it up, but I think about when Sugar Ray Leonard beat, uh,
01:34:56
Speaker
Marvin Hagler, he had been out for a little bit and he came in, he had the right strategy, got in there. He won some of those later round. Though it seemed to be split, which I wouldn't doubt if this goes into decision, it'll be the case here. But
Boxing Community's Reception of Canelo vs. Crawford
01:35:10
Speaker
some think that Hagler won, some think that Leonard won. I feel that Leonard won based on me seeing him scoring it.
01:35:17
Speaker
But I could see us having a case of that, especially if it turns out to be a close fight. So how do we feel about this, Josh? I got your referees for your judges for you. Excuse me.
01:35:29
Speaker
yeah The three judges will be the same judges that were just judging the controversial Manny Pacquiao versus Mario Barrios fight. Oh, yeah. You'll never want to see.
01:35:43
Speaker
We've got Tim Cheatham, Max DeLuca. Oh, Cheatham. Cheatham. Cheatham. Weisfeld, too. I mean, their season, they got championship pedigree in terms of their judging and all that stuff.
01:35:56
Speaker
Yeah. But, man, now he's right. He's interesting. Yeah, motherfuckers got some garlic-infused olive oil splashed on their Motherfuckers. Do you think that controversial decision, though, in that last fight, do you think that that might – do you think we might see, again, something fishy here, then, and because of these judges? we do What are we thinking?
01:36:23
Speaker
That is, man. Them hotels dried up, fam. I told you. I mean, I think it's going to depend on how definitive either fighter looks. If it's a close fight, I'm sure it's going to be controversial.
01:36:35
Speaker
regard Sort of like the Triple G fight, you know, outside of the third one at least. ah It was controversial, like that first one being a draw. There were people who were definitive and adamant that Triple G won that first fight.
01:36:47
Speaker
And by that same token, and the same with the second, you know. Personally speaking, you know, it's certainly really tricky. I can tell you from an officiating standpoint, I've been on the wrong side of some decisions there on the amateur side and all of that. And man, it can be tough. Like, what are they seeing or what am I not seeing, you know? Yeah, it's going to be interesting.
01:37:09
Speaker
Somebody set themselves apart. ah Josh, has anybody any of the boxers ever tried to fight you because they didn't like your refereeing? ah No, but I've gotten yelled at by coaches and parents and things of that nature. I feel somebody's like, yeah, they always get mad at the referees in these things or something. Hey, man. Omar, I ain't going to lie you, fam. I fired Josh up from the stands, man. I fired him up.
01:37:36
Speaker
I'd be calling all type of names. Hey, my baby one, man. At least in Josh's defense, he's not a little fella. So, you know, at least that's kind of, you know, if you were like a five foot string bean, they'd be like, man, give this guy a body. What's he doing? He's like, get out of here. Hey, somebody get this some glasses. Hey, it's one of those things. Hey, the winning, the winning quarter, they're to be in favor of me as a referee, but the other quarter is going to be opposite of me. You know what saying? it all depends on which end you're on, you know?
01:38:05
Speaker
yes Angel Diaz, I just realized you were catching up on the stream. So when you catch up to this, shout out to you when you catch up on this. That being said, shout out to everybody who tuned in today. What an amazing show. We really appreciate everybody that tuned in on all of the different channels here.
01:38:23
Speaker
And we really hope that you have a great and amazing boxing weekend. That being said, we are
Panelists Share Their Platforms and Social Media
01:38:27
Speaker
going to go around the horn. Please tell everybody where they can find you, where they can subscribe at. We're going to start with you, Josh.
01:38:33
Speaker
Luke Diaz. Hey, you know what it is? 86 Boxing, at 86 Boxing, um pretty much everything, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, you name it, Twitter, all that stuff, at 86 Boxing. So I appreciate being here. Always enjoy the invite and being able to come on the chat with you gentlemen.
01:38:54
Speaker
Yeah, and again, y'all, Josh is, I mean, i love watching Josh's boxing videos because if you are a a fan of boxing, you will definitely get the knowledge and history that you're looking for. So definitely check out 86 Boxing for ah definitely all your boxing history. It's tremendous.
01:39:10
Speaker
That being said, let's move it on. Papi Chunyeo, where can they find you at? Yeah, um you can find me folks roasting your favorite Canelo supporter somewhere online. Nah, I'm just waiting.
01:39:26
Speaker
Y'all can find me at Papa Chun Yayo on IG. What we do, we're helping to build a sport, and having to roast a few people along the way. But we're just here for sport. That's it.
01:39:40
Speaker
but for that's it Yeah, here for the love of the sport. We are all been longtime boxing fans. We love the sweet science, as it is so aptly called.
01:39:51
Speaker
ah Skywalker, you're putting your kids through boxing training. You're doing all kinds big in the boxing world. One of the foremost boxing networking people. he gets all the interviews with all the fighters, all the coaches.
01:40:04
Speaker
Tell them where they can find you. Hey, man, I'm the only ah Mexican on the panel. Viva Mexico, cabrones. Let's go Canelo on Saturday. Let's go Mexican independence. Shout out to all the Raza tuning in.
01:40:17
Speaker
Much love to all my gente. And, uh, you can follow me at Skywalker boxing media on all platforms. And then you can find me on my network, uh, Mo Boxing, no problem, man. We're out there grinding. We got Dom out there covering the Canelo Crawford card. She's already interviewed Canelo. You can check out Dom. Yeah, she's been coming on the show lately.
01:40:39
Speaker
She's a part of the Mo Boxing Network, and and she's out there putting that work this weekend, man. Shout out to her. so But thank you guys, man. Much love to everybody, and have a blessed fight weekend.
01:40:54
Speaker
Someone's mute. Yeah, you're muted. I'm muted myself. I was typing in where I want everybody to subscribe, so I didn't want anybody to hear. But yeah, salute to you. That's awesome. Salute to her. but she' wherere were She's all where we're trying to get. We all wish we could have an interview with Canelo or Crawford. Like, come on, man.
01:41:08
Speaker
I could have win, bro. couldn't afford the hotel prices a Canelo weekend. You got to have some hookups in Vegas, man. As Yeo said, they need to make their money where they can, apparently.
01:41:23
Speaker
ah Have a great night, Angel Diaz. We appreciate you. Clubber D, the Combat G, my brother. Yeah, Combat G, always in a place to be. You can find me. Check out at Clubber D on YouTube. Check me out. i Got a couple of videos. Got some coming up.
01:41:38
Speaker
Also. On Sundays, Ball and Buds, we do a Sunday showdown at 7 o'clock Eastern time. We're going to about the football games that went on that day. We'll give my Niner review. Omar will give the Raider review. Lamar will give the Falcons review. And we got Pete, if he comes on, he'll give the Commanders review.
01:41:57
Speaker
We'll play tomorrow. But, yeah, but we got a lot of things popping. But check us out. Check me on Ball and Buds. Check me on a tip on page ah at ClubberD. And that's about it. Yes, sir. He said it. And look, I hate all that. I put all the YouTube channels in there for you.
01:42:10
Speaker
So please make sure you subscribe there as well. Papi Chunyeo does not have a YouTube, but please follow him on Instagram. Yeah, he does. He has a YouTube. It's connected probably too. It's his name. What's your name? Papi Chunyeo.
01:42:35
Speaker
He's not fucking right here.
01:42:45
Speaker
He got a lot of shows on his shit. Hold on. I'm trying i'm trying to um'm trying to find you for real. Hold on. Wait, really? I see it. Okay. We don't have to fire him up.
01:42:57
Speaker
Yeah, love it. is Poppy Toon Puppet in the house. Bob, take your time. Thank you. um One of my favorite shorts is still the one we're where you came in with the puppet the first time after Climberty had made that comment. You were like, Dusty Rhodes. Dusty Rhodes. Dusty Rhodes.
01:43:22
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01:43:44
Speaker
So catch us there again, talking all the NFL and college. ah That's right. but That's right after the day games, right before your Sunday night game, seven Eastern, eight Eastern. All right. Well, thank you again, everybody.
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01:44:12
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