Introduction and Episode Setup
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the street professor be spitting at. Peace with the millions.
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That world heavyweight flow. Championship belt wrapped around my waist, yo. I got that ring flash that you blow. Slam you on the face, that's why they call me straight pro. Create heat on beat flow.
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Like Jordan after the second time he three-peated folks. Get ready, set, let's go. Fight toe and to toe, release the flow created by this micro. Life's camera, get low.
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Action packed, back to bag and back, in fact this monster will grow, y'all better let em know. Man with a master plan and have no need to know. Heart like winter cold.
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Bust these fools, anything less than killin' whack rappers is a crime. I stay tryin' get mine. Stacking value, packin' venues, winnin' overtime. Ain't no fine time. line Open your eyes, you're looking for the best, and this is what you find. Game is only for the bold.
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You came prepared, now get ready for the show. Introducing, from parts unknown, your UFC and combat sports insider, Clever D, the combat G, and the sports professor, Long Beach.
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Yo, yo, yo, what up, friends? You know what it is. Ball and buzz. Oh, my God. Okay, well, you got to let me know if you was going to do that. want to bring you on. I want to bring you on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me get you off real quick.
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Oh, Holy reckless, Clever D. That was reckless, my friend. You're going to do what? Wow. Don't be reckless like me on a Wednesday evening. We welcome y'all in balling, buds. Thank you, as always, for tuning in for another episode of Boxing Champs.
Recent Boxing Events and Community Engagement
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Here for the review of Canelo Alvarez and Terrence Raw for what?
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A main event fight. Clever D, I know we're going to talk about it, but man, how do you feel from this weekend? Oh, amazing. ah You know, I was right, but still wrong. So I thought it to split, but we'll talk about all that stuff when we got the great panel on.
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But ah i'm I'm on a good boxing house. We had some good fights. Not only was the main event good. The co-main event was good. The fights leading up to that on the on the main call were good. So I'm just, as a boxer fan, I'm happy.
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I'm happy. yeah You ain't never lied, brother. That that card was stacked, ah jacked, and action-packed, as our brother Francis would say. Let's go ahead and bring in another brother on the panel. We appreciate him coming in, as always.
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The foremost boxing historian who has some stuff to talk about today ah with a fighter of his that we are very much looking forward to seeing, and we'll talk all about that.
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Josh, for 86 Boxing. Yes, sir. Appreciate it. Hey, I'm happy to be here, as always. 41 million tuned in for the Crawford-Canelo fight.
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Boxing is dead. yeah Hey, tell them. Tell them. Say it louder for the people in the back that cannot hear you. yeah Hey, my friend, you look a little blurry there. Are you are you a hostage situation? Or...
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Am I good? I'm good. Maybe just need to back back up. Maybe do one of these numbers or something. No, you're still blurry. But while you get that figured out, we're going to bring in our other brother here. You know him well, and he has a little friend joining him today.
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Maybe like Scarface. Say hello to my little friend, Clubber D. Hit that intro. We know who it is. The people know from high and low, from low to high, from east to west, west to east, anywhere in between.
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Heavy on the poppy, light on the yayo, none other than poppy tune yayo. Bam! Bam! They say hard head make a soft ass. belted ass.
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they say a whore hair be aulphfa ass built to yeah Yeah. Oh, y'all got it. Y'all going to get this work today, fam. Let's go.
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it The Dusty Rhodes legacy. Y'all see the 86? You see the merch? You know what saying? Shout out. Look at it.
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Yes, sir. All right. Wait, it. All right. Well, yeah, we're going have a Skywalker joining us here in a little bit, hopefully. So it doesn't look weird um missing one box, but Hey, we will roll with it as is ah Josh. Go ahead and let the people know where they can find you, my friend. and Hey, you already know what the deal is.
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At 86boxing on everything. www.86boxing.com. you want to drop by the site, everything else at 86boxing. Though on YouTube, there's someone else with 86boxing. This is always at 86boxing TV. But you put 86boxing, I'm who's popping up there.
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Trust me. That's right. Oh, wait. So are you not both of those? Are you not 86boxing TV? I am 86boxingTV, but YouTube.com slash 86boxing is someone in Russia who doesn't post anything.
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What? It's crazy. Right? It's crazy. He's got it. He's got it. I need to get that. It happens. It happens. Papi Chunyeo, where can they find you, my friend?
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Yo, just go to IG at Papi Chunyeo. Get what you need. Yes, sir. And also, not pictured, but will hopefully pop in at some point. You know our brother Skywalker Boxing Media is here.
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ahead and find him there. And also Mo Boxing, no problem. moral Also, so our other partner as well. We thank you for tuning in. Let's see some comments here coming in fast and heavy. Miter, we're sorry we left you there for about 20 minutes waiting for your comment, but we're happy you tuned in. And you were early, and that's okay. You wanted to say, I told you so.
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terrence Yes, sir. Luke, my man, Mike. You know what? From Nebraska Crawford cannot be stopped. Called the joke, even by Max Kellerman in the ring. I mean, we are talking things here. Hubbard hitting that 1,000% facts. Angel Diaz, thank you for tuning in. Yeah, he will. He'll be popping in with us, hopefully.
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Picasso. Yo, what's good? We appreciate you. there ah There's Scott Walker right there. ah Phone kept shutting off. He's going to pop in in just a little bit, so y'all stay tuned. He'll be right with us.
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Let's see. Just Frank. Shout out. look to What else we got here? Let's see. All right. Joy Blogs.
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Shout out Joy Blogs. We appreciate you tuning in. Yes, shout out to you as well. All right. cool. So, yeah, everybody, thank you all for tuning in. We're going talk the big fight and also get into some of those fight picks for the Boxing Champs Fight Pick Group.
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Boxing News and Fight Predictions
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That being said, Clubber D, let's start with you. News of the day from Clubber D. What you got? Well, we got we got it in a couple stuff. I'll just start with, ah um you know, the Connor Ben, Chris Eubanks Jr. Part 2 press conference. They started that off today.
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um Besides, Javante Davis Hayden got his fight with Jake Paul November 14th. um There is another fight I'm...
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probably missing. Is it the Warley? Parker versus Warley? I don't know if said that last time, but they're going to fight next, and one of that's going to get Usyk as well. um As far as boxing news, that's all I got right now. They'll probably come to me later.
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No, that's good. That's a lot of good rapid-fire news right there you gave us. So thank you for all those updates. I'm sure many people did not even know about that. Josh, what is your news of the day, my friend? Hey, you know I spoke about it last time out. Tiara Brown defending her title for the first time in Houston.
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on Saturday, going to be out there ready for her to do the thing. So tune in, folks, for sure. also want to send a shout-out to my man Shark Season, a.k.a. Scooter Davis, Derek Davis, just signed with Top Rate. You know what that is out there? They posted put in that word representing headbangers right there. So salute to him and much love.
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Hey, congrats, Chip, from all of us here. That's awesome. That's big. All right, cool. Papi Jr., what's your news? Yeah, man, y'all already know, man. I'm trying to stop the dog from shooting a jab. i' taught her how to th throw the one and the two.
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You know what I'm saying? Kick up with the leg kick, you feel me? No, man, the only news that matters is Terrace Bud Crawford is one of the greatest to ever do it. That's all that matters. Let's see. What it happened what happened to your brother Angel? Look at this.
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Do you know how many Latin channels blocked me because I said... Yeah, you know what it is. I do got one thing, one thing. ah Josh reminded me when he when he was talking.
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Shout out to Jeffrey the the Fly U. He's sitting at Winstreet, the 5-0. No miles from the corner. I believe Josh was there live in D.C. But shout out to Jeffrey. Insider information. Shout out to the baby.
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but yeah watch I watched that interview with you that y'all did with him. That was a great interview. He's very energetic about his craft. I'm coming to the gym. Shout out to Kaiser MMA. shout kind Yes, sir. There you go. Shout out to Rodolfo tuning in with us, brother. Thank you, as always. Rodolfo, man. Salute.
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All right, cool. Well, there's only one thing to do but cover this card before we get into some of those. Or do you want to do the fight picks first? Fight picks first? We can do fight pick first.
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Yeah, that's better. whatever yeah guys Let's do the fight pick first. let's let's get let's little Let's tease them a little bit with it. so Let's move into the fight pick from Boxing Champs Fight Picks group this weekend. We're going to over four fights, ah the four most important from this weekend. So if you're looking at your card...
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on Champ Ross' Boxing Champs group. You'll see the top one is Liam Perrault, who is 26-1 with 16 KOs going up against David.
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I hope I'm saying Papo. I'm assuming the T is silent. 30-0-1 draw with five KOs. This is 12 rounds, welterweights, no belt on the line.
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ah Josh, you were looking impressed at this one. let's start with you. Hey, you know, well, Liam Carroll, of course, he's a name that is out there. He had a title. He beat Sabriel Mateus.
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And that's saying something right there. That's I know that name. Yeah, yeah. That's definitely saying something, holding it down from Australia. Australia, they have some pretty solid fighters just overall across multiple divisions and everything. So I don't really know his a opponent.
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You know, that's just me. Maybe I've seen him. And I don't know that I've seen him, but I don't really know him. ah So all I can go for from that perspective is just knowing what Liam Parrow brings to the table. And I think he is most certainly one of the more solid there at 140 pounds.
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And this is an opportunity for him to continue to do what he does, get his name right back in the mix there. to where he can get a title. So I'm leaning towards him winning the decision over the person that he's fighting, despite the fact that that person is coming in with some pretty solid numbers if you just look at the resume or look at his record at face value.
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But of course, we always find out once you're actually there in the ring. And if we went off resume and what each has done in the sport, no doubt, peril is the one who stands out. So that's why I feel that he will be the one who is successful come this Saturday, I guess, if if it's happening Saturday, Friday, whenever it happens.
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it's actually It's actually a Thursday fight. Thursday. Oh, wow. Tomorrow. so my ro Thursday night fights, baby. Remind me the old ESPN thing sometimes. There you go. I And I do want to remind you, not remind you, I do want to um ah go direct to your point, Josh.
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I didn't know who the other guy was either. I'd heard of, obviously, Liam Pero, and now I know why, because I watched that fight that he beat Sabriel Matias. um I just forgot that that was him. But just to give everybody else a little update, since y'all may not even know who the guy is either, he's apparently from France,
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So that's one thing. So the T is definitely silent, just to give you a little update there. He's 34 versus Paro, who is 29. ah His last fight was a KO7, but it looks like he's only had one fight recently. It doesn't look like he's fought a lot recently. it doesn't say the the last time he fought, but...
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Anyways, he's not a knockout artist. He's only had five wins by KO, which means 25 wins have come by decision, whereas Paro has 62% KO percentage. Now, he has been fighting three more years than Paro since 2013, so he does have 60 more rounds pro experience.
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Yayo, what do you think about this fight? Yeah, man, um I think this is going to be one of those types of fights where, you know what I'm saying, the guy is just getting back and his corner is probably going to want to see, um you know, you know what what sort of improvements he's made since, you know, he took the L, you know i mean? So I think probably um this would be a fight where they want to see him get some rounds in, but I still think he might try to press the dude.
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um I think it should be like an easy win. I'm taking it like if I was if i was gambling on it, I'd probably take it by unanimous decision. and But in the league, you know I'm saying? Unanimous decision don't really get you nothing. So I'm going to just say majority decision for ah the fantasy boxing prediction league.
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Hey, there you go. And I don't even need to say anything else because that's exactly what I thought when I picked it. I was like, well, I would pick unanimous, but that's we don't need to do that. so I'm just going to pick majority. Clever D, what do you got? Well, this fight is going to have a little bit of parody, and I'm going to use it to base my shoot on this. I'm going to do a wrestling shoot about this one. And what I'm going to say is, Leon Paulo, his last fight was at 140. It looks like they're fighting at welterweight, which is at 147. So this is his first fight at that weight class. We're fighting somebody who's from France, who's from the same country of the man that knocked out Jaime Munguia,
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And then Harry McGee had to cheat on Canelo undercar back in May. With that being said, with him moving up in weight and finding a freshman that might have the knockout powers that we don't know about, all My man, Clubber D, connecting dots out here like he a damn investigator. He got the pin board up there. just like That's great. That's tremendous. All right, cool. well There you all go. Make sure you get that. That's for that first fight. We're going over three more. Let's get some comments here. Bud Files.
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Salute. We appreciate you tuning in. What's up, bud? Angel Diaz says, that ring don't lie. Yeah, we know that. We know that. Oh, look who's tuning in. Yes.
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Alicia. Shout out. Alicia. Shout out. We love you at Ball and Buds. Yes. That's family right there. And then Boxing Kangaroo from Australia.
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I heard y'all on the other the night. heard y'all getting it in. like
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Good old Carl. Carl. Oh, that's right. yes ru theateratre Carl is from Australia. You're correct about that. I had to spot something on BVO that night. I was listening. to I couldn't help. I was listening.
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let's Let's move on to this fight on Friday night. I'll give you the Friday night fights from Detroit. We got a couple of heavy hitters coming through. Brandon Moore, 18-1 versus – hold on.
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I had it here. DeAndre? so Yep, DeAndre Savage. the last name yeah ah Yep, DeAndre Savage. Savage is 34 years of age. Moore is 31.
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ah Moore does hold a three-inch height advantage. But we've got some stats here to tell you about. 18 wins for a Brandon Moore, 10 of those by KO, a little over half.
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ah So not necessarily a knockout artist per se, but his opponent, holy cannolis, DeAndre Savage, 10 fights and 10 KOs.
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Now, granted, he has a lot less experience than Moore to the tune of 62 rounds less experience. It looks like... um Darnell Savage – Darnell – DeAndre Savage has beat up on folks early because he only has 16 rounds in those 10 wins, which is 1.6
In-Depth Fight Analysis and Predictions
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rounds average. So he's knocking people out in the first or second round every time. ah But if you're asking me, Clubber D, and I'm coming to you on this one, if you – Wowzers, yes, you got me. That's a poser.
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If you were going to ask me my opinion or if you were tell me that I'm ah i' a heavyweight and you you put me up against some guy named Savage with 10 KOs and 10 fights, I'm just going to walk away.
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I'm to say I don't think I want to fight that guy. How do you feel about this? Well, you know, you hear that name, Savage, reminds me of the homie that I went high school with, Chris Savage-McQuarrie, who finished second place in the UFC ah Tough Enough ah competition from from my area. Shout out to him. But, you know, sometimes stats lie, um but in this case,
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it's har After watching Yoel Romero make his BKFC debut last Friday at age 48 and dude out, he's a savage. So I'm going with the savage. It's going to be second-round knockout.
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Yes, sir. Second round knockout. Yale, what you got for us? Man, I'm with Clubber D on this, man. I think ah i think it's going to be a little later. I got my man doing it in five because, you know, I've got to give some respect to the other guy, but I just feel like he's handing out concussions and migraine medicine.
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So be to get your Ubrel V up, fam, because you'll have a headache after that night. ah Bro, you and me, a are we all, we on the same page tonight, the same wavelength. Cause I agree the same exact way. The only thing I had different with you was KO six, but I didn't know that he was knocking out folks so fast.
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So I was about to switch and go, go a little earlier myself to like KO four, KO five, but yeah, he's still going knock them out. Josh, what you got? You know, I'm looking back at what I submitted in my thing. So, actually, i put more via SD in what I submitted to man, Champ Ross, there. But that say ah that being said, Savage, his record is more smoke and mirrors if you look at the names and all of that stuff.
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There's no question that from a competition standpoint, The edge lies with Brandon Moore. His loss is to Richard Torres, who we have a lot of promise for him, or he has a lot of promise here. Olympian, all that good stuff, representing Team USA. And Brandon Moore is the bigger fighter, and he has a okay jab, you know, when he's in there. He usually starts pretty slow, so I feel that the best chance is going for Savage at least, is going to be there early.
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As it wears on, I'm going to take... Brandon Moore, as far as him just kind of leaning in, using that body on him. But Savage himself is not a small guy there at 6'3", whatever he ends up leaning in at.
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But when you get something of this nature, you kind of just look at what available information is out there. And the information that we do have leans towards Brandon Moore,
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winning this fight so i have split decision in favor of brendan moore and it could be unanimous decision but champ said as you get more points with split decision so i'm going with that they had a press conference today on the zone so if you guys can check that out on their instagram they're going back and forth so it's pretty it's pretty good pretty entertaining how do they know more compared each other uh Is the size glaring for more?
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Yeah, yeah. i mean here's what I mean, he's a what's called was wearing a ah hoodie, but he's a big dude. Yeah, man and the mother Pillsbury Doughboy built dude. You know what I mean?
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Muffet has got built like a chicken pot pie. They got meat hanging over the side. Why not like a chicken pot pie? That's a skinny shirt. it little you know, the people wear the muscle shirt without a muscle in sight. It's one of those type things. Yeah. What were you trying say, Yale?
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No, man. We're going to have a Harper situation where my father just climb out the ring and just... Felicia, Felicia, I'm not even making it to the ring, okay? If his name is Savage and he has 10 KOs and 10 fights and they all happen in the first two rounds, no, I'm not even fighting. I'm not even agreeing to the fight in the first place.
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They're going to put it in front of me and I'm be like hell no, he can wait a little bit. He ain't ready. I'd be like, look at my record. He ain't ready for me yet. I'd I'm going to culture box. Exactly. Exactly. i yeah Now you need to wait a little bit. All right, cool.
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Let's move it in to the next fight. Actually, you know what? I want to save this one for last because that's your girl, Josh. So we'll start with the Fundora fight. This is last on your list, y'all, of the Boxing Champs Fight Picks group.
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So if you're looking, at the at the but it's at the bottom on Sunday. This is Gabriela Fondura, 16-0 with eight KOs versus Alexis Kubicki, thirteen and one with two KOs. This is 10 rounds for the IBF, WBA, WBC, and WBO. Flyweight.
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titles. Josh, since we're going to start with you with Tiara Brown, we'll start with the club or D on this one. Actually, you know what? Let's start with Yale. We haven't started with you yet. yale We'll go Yale. Yale, what do you think about this fight right here?
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I think, you know, B-side is just that, man. don't matter. We got walk them down, Gabby. He walking them down, fam. I mean, she could box and do all that stuff, but man, when she be walking them down, that shit look pretty, fam. I ain't gonna hold you on that.
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So I'm taking Gabby from Dora by KO9. You know what I'm saying? I just think she should she's just too tall. The reach is too long. And she's mean, man. Like, i don't know. Like, you see, motherfucker, that, you know, with the librarian look, and they take the glasses off and be crazier than the motherfucker inside of there. So I'm riding with Gabby by KO9, fam.
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Now, she comes, Clubber D, as we know, because we've talked about it before. The brother-sister, they were the champion combo at one point in time. They still are. Oh, they still are? Okay, cool. Yeah. Okay, so they still are. That's what I thought. Okay, I just wasn't sure. Yeah, so we talked about that before.
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ah So when you come from a fighting family, you're going to be one tough mother sucker, you know what I mean? Talk to me, to cover I mean, you got you got her brother. ah He's taking Harvard classes and and knocking people out. Asked Tim Zhu about that.
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And then his sister, she's one of the few women that can knock the race off your face. like but she became and When she hit Homegirl, it was kind of like when Bumgarner hit Harper and it was like they stood still, like stuck in time.
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Like they was on on on Kensington and Philly. On Kensington! zoned out, you know, so she's she's known to do that to women. So with that fight with that with that being said, I got Fundora, and I got her going seventh round knockout.
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It's going to be, she's probably going knock her out, knock her down in probably second round, and maybe again in the fourth, and it's going to be either towel thrown in or no moss come round seven. All right. Yeah, I mean, now you're starting to try starting to change my mind. I hadn't picked that fight yet, but just looking at it, and I mean, I know how tough Fundora is, but the other fighter looked okay. I thought maybe she could dance around for a little bit, but y'all are starting to make me rethink. Josh, what you got?
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Well, I did go... unanimous decision for Gabriela Fundora, but if she stops the her opponent, then it certainly would not be a shocker for me because I think she's a handful to deal with. And it's so ironic that she fights similar to, of course, her brother there, Sebastian Fundora. And you can just kind of see a mix of that in both of them. And that's pretty amazing. Another combination similar in nature is Caroline Dubois.
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And Triple D, Dynamite Daniel DeVoy, you know, there's another one where the sister fights similar to the brother, Big Bro, or whatever it may be. And I think this is the same case with Gabriella.
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To be able to really deal with her, you got to have a lot of endurance, a lot of – you have to be able to take a lot of punches and just be able to stand the test of the and the duration of the fight because she's one who's going to keep coming forward.
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The person she's going against, she only has one loss. That being said, of course, similar to were mentioning in other contests, If you look at the resume, you really start to dive into them. Right.
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There's really no comparison, you know. So I think that Gabriela Fundora continues doing what she's been doing. And I think she will continue that for the foreseeable future until she continues to move up. And maybe someone jumps out there who is a legitimate challenger that can push her to a different level. But for right now, man, she's in her bag. the One of the best women fighters in the world.
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And I wanna i want to, my bad Omar, just want to add one to a quick thing. um you're go I wonder how long before she signs with MVP, because going to bring up something before, once we get to the Crawford fight with Netflix, and that's almost brings up before I do, but I wonder how long before she signs with MVP.
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Because Jake paul does does very good by these women fighters. She does what she does. Jake Paul is pimp. That's the one thing he does. He is. He pimps a lot. And I respect what he's doing. If I daughter, I would have let her go.
00:27:36
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Ain't no other man finna pimp my daughter. Fuck all that. ah what was yourrition What was your decision on that one? I got a unanimous decision for Gabby Fundora, but stoppage would not surprise me.
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But what about for the fight picks group? Majority or split? just for the No, I have a unanimous, even in that. you You didn't even – that doesn't get you any more points. Why wouldn't you just – know, but feel like it's very clear. You just stood on principle.
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You just stood on principle. All right, all right, cool, whatever. I will stick with you, Josh. I chose a decision before, so I'll stick with that, although she does have a 50% KO percentage, and we know how mean she is.
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um I'm actually going to stick with the decision like you did, and I'm going to go with the unanimous decision as well. If it was a fight picks group, I'd pick a a split decision probably just because the ah seems like the other fighter at least has a decent enough record to maybe pull one judge, but I don't know.
00:28:35
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I like unanimous there. I wish we i wish we you could just pick unanimous too, but I get it. Because there are so many unanimous things. Now, what I will say, though, here is, what was her brother's ah nickname, Josh? The Towering Inferno. That's right.
00:28:52
Speaker
The Towering Inferno. That nickname cracks me up every time. That's great. What a great nickname. Big fan of his. He took glove on after the... Epson Lupin fight. The left glove was still on there.
00:29:04
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just saying. Yeah, man. i don't know, man. that shit is That shit is olive that should have is olive oil on the bottom and lambda, lambda, lambda up top. There's something for you about that. Why is that glove still on there? But whatever. Oh, man. That's great. All right, cool.
00:29:22
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00:29:52
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00:30:08
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All right, and shout-out to Champ Ross. We don't see you in here today, brother, but we appreciate you as always. Shout-out. i screen Saludos. Oh, we got a saludos and a lads.
00:30:21
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00:30:35
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00:30:47
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okay Who said lads? we yeah You know what I'm saying? I feel like I'll be letting people get punched in the back of the nugget and just be okay with it. yo Stoppage by right hook to the square to the back of the head.
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00:31:33
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Let's move into this last fight. It is your girl, Josh. Tiara Brown, 19-0, 11 KOs going up against Emma Gongora, 10-3-1 with 1 KO.
00:31:47
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10 rounds for the WBC featherweight title. Josh, what are your thoughts on this fight? Man, it's a big, Oh, my bad. This interesting one right here. This is interesting one. I was going to let him go first. Oh, okay. Yeah, I got to go first. Let's get it. But this is the first title defense for Tierra since winning the WBC World Featherweight Champion. And I think she will eventually have all the titles there at 126, but that's just my opinion.
00:32:13
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So this contest should be a pretty nice one right here. Emma Gengora, she's out of France, and she has traveled. to pick up wins before, so she's going to come in in shape. Matter of fact, I follow her on Instagram, and we've interacted on a number of occasions there just through the comments or whatnot. But Emma, she's going to come in shape, ready to go.
00:32:35
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But I'm telling you from firsthand knowledge that It is different levels when you think about it from an overall standpoint. And you'll know what I'm talking about once you actually see it. But because Tiara Brown, I think she is the one.
00:32:50
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And she's going to do what she needs to do here on this weekend to get that victory. So I actually have Tiara Brown via six-round stoppage. I just think that pressure is going to be too much.
00:33:04
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She's going to continue to dial in. and if you think back on the fight with Skye Nicholson, when she traveled down to Australia to win the World Cup, had the referee stopped all of the holding that Skye was doing there, I think that outcome could have been something that ended early as well.
00:33:22
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Emma's nice, as i mentioned, she's solid, but I see a similar situation as far as once that pressure that Tiara brings is on, It's over from there. Watch out for the check hook because I feel like that's probably going to be something that, you know, opens up things. And I'm going with Tiara Brown, six-round stoppage. I think she's ready to take the throne at 126 pounds totally. So I'll be there live and in attendance.
00:33:52
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You might see me. I'm rooting her on. So let's do it. Yeah, I mean, they're fighting from the Bayou Music Center in Houston, Yayo. And I will say, Tierra Brown has a 58% knockout percentage, 11 KOs in 19 fights, while the other lady, Emma, seems like a little bit of a light hitter.
00:34:11
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Only one KO in 10 fights. What are your thoughts, Yayo? Man, ain't gonna lie, man. I just met Tierra Brown other day. You know what saying? I got to get a look in her eyes, fam.
00:34:21
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And I just, you know, this, hey, y'all, listen, when we making these picks, it's his business. It's not personal. You feel me? Like, we just be making picks. We just be talking a little trash. Don't get mad at me because Tierra is going to be on your ass.
00:34:35
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I got Tierra putting the beats by Dre on her by KO7. I'm sorry. That's just how feel it. Iron sharpened iron.
00:34:46
Speaker
And you what I'm saying? France has been losing anyway. So know you might as well go and take this AL too. Hold that. Yes, sir. I mean, i need you next time to say that rhyme part with the puppet. Where's, where's puppy? tune puppy and You know what I'm saying? Clever D, what are your thoughts on this fight?
00:35:06
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You know, I actually, you know, I'm glad you started with Josh because Josh kind of laid it out perfect for all of us. And since this fight is going to be in Houston, this is going to be more of a showcase fight similar to Liam Paul. Yeah.
00:35:17
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and you know how i was hyping up France and how Bruno, whatever his name is, knocked out Jaime Maguia. I feel like, what's the young lady's name that Tierra's fighting?
00:35:28
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Emma Gungora. Emma Gungora is going to be similar to Paul Wall. going be sitting sideways and rink around number Knockout. TKO Tierra Brown.
00:35:40
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Sitting sideways like the girls in the day. Let's go. good try wait know um Yeah, there's no chocolate talking like dj school yes sir there's no way I'm going to go against any of these gentlemen's opinions. They obviously know, and especially Josh, because he knows Tierra Brown and her skills for a long time now. So, I mean, I agree. I think that when you're looking at the, the, the, A heavy hitter or a heavier hitter, at least, versus somewhat of a light hitter. And the fact that they started around the same time. Yeah, I mean, I just think Tiara Brown's going to knock her out, too. KO5, get him out of here. Oh, we're together.
00:36:25
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We're together. There you go, yes, sir. Oh, you said KO5, too? I'm sorry, because I was looking at my notes. I didn't hear what you said. No, no. Man, if they had more time to work, that's, hey, listen, I understand why most of y'all pick split decision and majority decision for the women because they just don't get enough time to work, man. But there's a couple of them out there that just seem like they got the the type of, you know I'm saying, walk them down mentality. And Tiara, she definitely, she she got that. She's got somewhere to be. and You know this mean like yeah got all these other girls looking certain way. um I'm going to get to that on my little nugget I have.
00:36:59
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you need so She's going to show the world who she is. and If you don't know, you're going to find out. ay Hey, I love that. All right, cool. So y'all look forward to seeing her.
00:37:10
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She is going to be on Saturday night. So there you go. You got four fights, one for each night from us. There's your boxing weekend. We hope you enjoy it again. Hit any of us up to join Boxing Champs Fight Picks group. It is a very fun time.
Spotlight on Clarissa Shields
00:37:26
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right. and ah yeah There you go. And now let's get some comments before we get into the main event of the evening. My bad, Angel. I missed this earlier. Have you seen Daniel Dubois' sister?
00:37:36
Speaker
Oh, yeah. She can fight. No doubt. Oh, yeah. She ain't no joke. you were no deal Yeah, that's a bad one right there. There you go. Adam Canelo's white ass got washed. We appreciate you tuning in, Adam. Don't worry, Adam.
00:37:50
Speaker
Don't worry. We know you're not racist. You don't have to worry about that. We know. we know it's all here's so He's white, white-looking. You can't say... We know he's Mexican, but he does look white. Come on.
00:38:02
Speaker
Look, I've been pulled over by the cops before, and when they gave me a ticket, they put white on the motherfucker. Okay? i don't like it, but they did. Okay? Especially with all the Hispanic people we got there, and they can't tell I'm Hispanic. Y'all better stop participating in them census. Hey, all you Indonesian people, y'all next. Y'all think y'all got it cool, too? They finna beat in your head, too. If it's more than 100,000, you motherfuckers, y'all gonna have a box to check. That's gonna be when it starts, baby.
00:38:34
Speaker
That's crazy. y'all go have a ah box to check and that's gonna win that's gonna be a win it stars baby oh that's crazy That's crazy. All right, cool.
00:38:45
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Moving on. C-Book. Won't lie. Crawford made easy work of Canelo. We're going talk about that. People have different opinions on that. say here that's the hoing like what you're talking some Some people may have some things to say about the judges as well, so we'll see.
00:38:59
Speaker
ah um Felicia says, put me on that free joint, cuz. I'm going to get you one when i when we get off. Let's see. Check hook reminds me of money. May put Ricky Haddon down with that, by the way. Yes, sir. Peace. All right. Hey, Ricky, the hit man. didn know How he passed away by any chance or is it still?
00:39:19
Speaker
So now we had an exhibition lined up. Yeah, they just said he was fouled like that. So, signs team to point towards, it could have been, you know, there was no foul play or anything of that nature. It could have been his own doing, but I don't know for sure. I haven't seen the exact latest, but he was just kind fouled in that situation, you know.
00:39:38
Speaker
So, and he's dealt with depression and things of that nature. And apparently, I i didn't notice he had attempted – to take his life before. Oh, damn. Wow. Yeah. No, I'm looking at all the news reports now and his family was quoted as saying they thought he was in a better place. So i alluding to what you kind just pointed at, that it could be...
00:40:02
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something along those lines. We don't want to say because we don't know. I know in offseason they would say, like, you know, Ricky Fatten because he liked eat a lot. didn't know, like, if drinking, you know, or had other vices. You know, wasn't too sure because he's, know, over in the UK. I don't really hear too much about him. I know his son was actually tired after his loss at a young age from boxing.
00:40:22
Speaker
But out to Ricky Hat, man. It's just... we stuff Yeah, he kind of embraced that, you know, that old Ricky Fadden and all that stuff. He played into it as well. But he was scheduled to actually make a comeback and in December against someone.
00:40:36
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So, yeah, I guess, yeah, is a one those crazy situations, you know. Yeah, man, I mean, if he's been dealing with it before and he's been dealing with mental health issues, you know, hey, those mental health issues will get the best of you if you don't, ah you know, handle them and nip them in the bud ahead of time.
00:40:54
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And were that's very unfortunate for anybody. We pray for anybody that has to deal with anything like that. So, um you know, a prayer is up to him and his family, especially. But yeah, he had apparently issues with both, you know, mental health, alcoholism and some other things which are Nothing to be glorified, and we feel very bad for him. and Anybody got any memories of any good fights of his or anything like that?
00:41:16
Speaker
Cost suit. Yeah, yeah. He's the one that sent Kassizu into retirement. i think about the magnitude of his fight with Mayweather when that happened and just kind of seeing that there, how went down live and all of that stuff. up and i was and so It was anticipated for sure. And he had a number of other good ones. He's one who I think I've shared it before, but always loved his trucks. I felt like they were some of the natural ones in the sport just in general where he had that sort of teal-like color with the British flag tied into it. so I always liked his trucks.
00:41:54
Speaker
Yeah. So he had a question for Mayweather-Pacquiao. So like, all right, Mayweather-Pacquiao, you're fight each other? Okay. So Mayweather did to him. Now you saw what Pacquiao did to him. said, all right, I said, I'm an opponent. Now what's going to happen with Mayweather-Pacquiao fight? But he's a British legend, British great.
00:42:14
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. Rest in peace. And obviously, it's hard to move on from a a person passing, but, you know, obviously prayers to his family. oh Let's get back to Tiara Brown because this is a comment from here. Angel Diaz says, if she gets into her or into that little triangle, it's game over.
00:42:31
Speaker
Yes, sir. With the game over, we're going to say little flip. we're going to say little flip Flip. Flip. Flip. Game over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All analogies. He's trying to give away everybody age on this.
00:42:51
Speaker
I forgot all about that song. It is right here. It is right here. It is right here. And nothing here. I'm already up there. I'm already up there. um more yeah let the record Let the record be shown. I am only 37 years old. yeah Take the hat off. damn. Answer your cousin's question. let's get that with more oh little like We'll out it's a horseshoe up at the top of that. All right, stop talking about my hairline. I want to answer Felicia's question, please. teas oh
00:43:25
Speaker
Can anyone walk Clarissa down? Anybody? nobody Nobody. Hey, oh air hold up a second. I put some information there in the chat. Because listen, man, the Savannah Marshall.
00:43:37
Speaker
ah yes red night Easy fight. Y'all know I'm a big Clarissa fan. You know what saying? But I feel like that Savannah Marshall fight was some good work. ah fine Oh, yeah, it was definitely good work. Male and female.
00:43:50
Speaker
In light of Savannah Marshall versus O'Gero, what's her name? I know her name, but it's... Yeah, she'll be the last.
00:44:03
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. She just beat Savannah Marshall. She's with MVP. little Freaking... You know what talking about, right? Anyway, she maybe is someone who would make it interesting.
00:44:18
Speaker
walking and Walking her down is very interesting for sure. I messed up. I didn't mean to say Savannah Marshall. I meant to say Hannah Gabriels.
00:44:29
Speaker
Well, yeah, Hannah, that's the one. Hannah was the only one who's dropped Parisha in all of her contests. Hannah was the one who put her on the canvas, and that was one that was that was being talked about. I would love to see that.
00:44:42
Speaker
The only issue now, of course, is Hannah. She's been out ring for about two years now. because they were going to fight at one point, but I still like to see that rematch, and it would be at a higher weight this time, because Hannah, she was putting in work at heavyweight, light heavyweight as well, prior to her, or at least in her last contest that she was in the ring with.
00:45:02
Speaker
But the the girl that beat Savannah Marshall here in her last fight, I think that she could be very interesting, and...
00:45:14
Speaker
That's from an overall standpoint, but I don't know. In terms of walking, walking down is going to take a concerted effort. You're going to have to admit to that. Yeah, man. Hey, Pat Poops, man. That's a...
00:45:30
Speaker
and No disrespect, Papoos. Ain't nobody walking Clarissa down. just thought about She thicker than frozen peanut butter, fam. ah you You feel good? Ain't nobody walking her down.
00:45:41
Speaker
She caked up, man. I mean, that's what I'm saying. This is another one. Like the savage. Like if you're going to ask me to go in and try to walk down Clarissa, no, i'm not i don't want what I don't want that fight. No, I just don't. I'll take another fight, please.
00:45:55
Speaker
Give me someone else. Okay. And it's Shadeja Green. That was Oh, Shadeja Green. Shadeja. She dialed in. I might have spelled it wrong there. Shadeja. But she's she dialed in and they like super determined in that fight with...
00:46:11
Speaker
ah Savannah, she's someone who will be interesting matchup there for Clarissa Shields, especially at this stage. It just be a matter of what weight because Shadeja's at 168.
00:46:25
Speaker
Clarissa's last two fights have been in the heavyweight division, which is generally in on the women's side over 175. So she's coming in about 177 or somewhere in that range. So it makes it it interesting.
00:46:36
Speaker
I think it depends on also when Shadeja called her out. I know that Carissa doesn't get along well with Jake Paul or his those a partner MVP. So that's another thing that would be tough. She's talked about fighting Jake Paul. Yeah, they don't let get along. So someone has put their ego aside for that to happen. I think for one of those big fights to happen, Carissa's already selling out the Little Caesars Arena in Detroit. So she's getting a great crowd.
00:47:06
Speaker
Yeah, she's got some tough. So it's going to be, you know, why would I want to leave ah that spot and go somewhere else? But she said she wanted to be on the undercard of like a Crawford fight or something like that. what I would love to see you because that's what Jake Paul does. He he put, you know, Serrano on the undercard and their second fight didn't, their third fight didn't number. So there there is a method to that, kind of like Christy Martin and Tyson when she was on those undercards.
00:47:33
Speaker
So I think for Shares to break through to more of the mainstream, she needs to be on one these big undercards and kind of, you know. Yeah. And, and I'll note that Carissa is a free agent right now. She's with Solita Promotions for the duration of her career.
00:47:47
Speaker
I know on what she's put out there online, she's even open to, she's not, she's not denouncing any promotion. So that means even MVP is on the table.
00:47:59
Speaker
I haven't heard anything as of yet as far as her signing with anyone, but she is a promotional free agent at the moment. So in all likelihood, if something major were to happen, and given that Savannah Marshall and Shadesha Green are both MVP fighters,
00:48:18
Speaker
Maybe that's where she ends up, but time will tell. The only other person out there who at 168 is Frenchon Cruz, and that's someone she's fought. That was in her very first fight as a pro.
00:48:32
Speaker
I think that would be an interesting matchup as well, but you know we'll see who Clarissa ultimately signs with, but and MVP, they're doing some things right now as far as signing with the best part.
00:48:44
Speaker
Man, that shit is foul. That last fight was a gimme. and Clarissa Shields is the queen of boxing, and Terrence Bud Crawford is the king of boxing.
00:48:55
Speaker
Period. The fact that she ain't got a statue built somewhere is bad business. If anybody else had of been doing what Clarissa Shields did, they'd have an arena named after them.
00:49:06
Speaker
You know I'm saying? She should be the the highest paid woman in fighting sports. Period. She should be the highest paid woman. agree. What they're doing for Amanda Serrano, she's accomplished so much. it's Same with Katie Taylor. She's accomplished so much.
00:49:21
Speaker
samma but The backing needs to be behind Clarissa Shields. The same way they are but behind those two young ladies. Because yeah man what she's accomplished in the sport, along with them, they they kind of ignore her. And it's all about who's the one promoting and backing you.
00:49:37
Speaker
And she needs to be on that level. I want you 100%. Yeah. I mean, not only does she need to be on that level, she's more accomplished than both of them. Yeah. you know She's in the Guinness Book of World Records, fam. Yeah. One of the closest KD, and KD doesn't have many unspeed, I believe. Right. Just or not.
00:49:53
Speaker
No, I agree. And you wish someone like Jake Paul would be like, hey, let me make her a headliner and MVP. Jake Paul, there's Jake Paul. Jake Paul has a comp. I mean, let's see. Okay. If you want to say he's accomplished things.
00:50:06
Speaker
We're just talking about the promotion of women. That's all. Yeah, but the sale though, he's not even, he's not, they're not on the same level. Like she, how is she going to, how is she going to fork up her queen status to go work for a jester?
00:50:18
Speaker
No, I was just saying. Hopefully someone would. Hold on, hold on. You got to look it like this. Soulja Boy have sold more records than Coogee Rapper. Who's the better rapper?
00:50:30
Speaker
so thats was the internet He broke their internet wrappers out. yeah Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, and we're still point who going that round. The point is, Jake Paul might be whatever, but he's moved the needle. he gets He gets more attention, right. And or she needs somebody to help her do that, somebody on that level. yep I show speed.
00:50:49
Speaker
Kai Sanat, somebody in that realm promotes somebody that kind of looks like you. That's I'm saying. but whatever Good point. You got the money. Might as well. Mr. Beast out here promoting his people. ah By the way, shout out to one of your people, CoverD. And i don't I've never actually met her in person, but she seems awesome.
00:51:04
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I'll see you. So anybody that you know that inspires someone to lose weight, this woman... And if I'm wrong, fry me, okay? but I think she was close to the 400-pound club, lost well over 200 pounds, has been marvel for people trying to lose weight.
00:51:24
Speaker
My homegirl, Karita, she is... byfi if I had your you're freaking YouTube, I would... i Not YouTube, but... ah Instagram, if I knew it, I'd say it right here, but you can put it in the comments, which are youtube what your Instagram is, but she's big into fitness. She's lost a ton of weight, and people if you're just an everyday person and don't need that YouTube fitness model that has that fancy gym, she's somebody you can follow that's an everyday person just like you, losing weight and trying to get better. So shout to homegirl, Karita, and I will see you for a high school reunion in October.
00:51:57
Speaker
Oh, that's what I see what it is. that clubing like what going I used to want to holler at her back in the day. let me mary and emily she's I'm not putting a business out there, but a grandmother. So we're okay on that. But I know she's homie. Adam says the fight wasn't fair. Canelo saw Benavidez just before the fight. shit That's the line of what I would do if saw Savage or Clear Shields.
00:52:26
Speaker
that's in the line of what i of what i would do if i saw savage or clear shields All right, let's move it into that card.
Fight Recaps and Community Interaction
00:52:35
Speaker
We're not just going to talk the main event. We're going save that for last. Wait a few more minutes, 15 more minutes. that's that's everybody yes so but We got to talk about these other fights first because as Clever D said at the beginning of the show, these other fights were tremendous as well. So we're going to through the co-main event and the second domain, which, by the way, I would like to point out. No, joking. I'm not going to say anything. But we'll start with the non-co-main event.
00:53:00
Speaker
Christian and Billy versus Lester Martinez. should have been. ah should have been a but's like I said that. I said We all agreed. it's not Okay, but I just want to make sure we all know the professor had it correct. and change hey and I was corrected. WBC interim super middleweight champion Christian and Billy, 29-0-1, 24 k-os, went up against Lester Martinez. They battled to a split draw.
00:53:29
Speaker
93-97. ninety seven Martinez, 96-94. And Billy, 95-95. b Split. Draw. Wow.
00:53:40
Speaker
This was a hard-hitting affair, gentlemen. I could feel the punches through my TV. Josh, but what do you think about this? Man, the draw, I'm not mad at it. i got to be honest. so I'm not mad at the draw. he's been It would have been cool if One fighter would have won, but that being said, I remember I went to a fight party where we were all watching it, and i remember after that 12th round, said myself, I was like, I don't know who won this. I really don't because there were so many ebbs and flows.
00:54:13
Speaker
each had their moments and i knew would be a damn good fight, but it was even better than I anticipated. I mean, they were really banging and fight of the year candidate right there. Maybe maybe it's in that number one slot right now as far as fight of the year. It's got to be up there in the rankings.
00:54:30
Speaker
And i just think that, yeah, it was an absolute treat. It should have been the co-main event as we discussed, but I understand that name value and who was involved the reason it wasn't the co-main event uh that being said i mean that was the fight of the entire card right there and they both put on and it's just hey if you're introducing someone to the sport of boxing that's one fight that i would definitely want to you know i'm like hey you know hey come check it out this is boxing you ever seen boxing hey this is the fight to check out right now
00:55:07
Speaker
You know what i'm saying? So I think both of those guys won things just given the performance in that contest. And it was back and forth. I mean, hell of a fight there for sure. I'm not mad at the draw. I wasn't scoring it live, but...
00:55:24
Speaker
At the end of it, I really didn't know. And that's what you, hey, those are the type of fights you look for right there. At the end of it, I did not know who won. So salute to both of those guys.
00:55:35
Speaker
Maybe they'll fight again. We'll see if it's the next match for each of them. If it's not, then I understand because that's a grueling matchup. A lot of shots taken from both parties, man. That that takes a little something out you right there. So salute to both of those guys because I thought they put on, they understood the moment, and neither one wanted to back down. Again, going into the contest, I picked Lesnar Martinez to win the contest. actually...
00:56:03
Speaker
picked six-round stoppage, but that was really just me kind of just throwing something out there, but I'm not mad at where he ended up right there, man. both of those guys, super-duper salute, too.
00:56:15
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, i mean, hey, it was a tremendous, tremendous fight. Yeah, what did you think? Yeah, man, you threw a wrong pick out there just like I did. You threw a wrong pick out. Listen, man, I remember what I said about this fight because I rocked with N'Bili Heavy.
00:56:33
Speaker
i was I thought that N'Bili would probably drop him like three times. I thought that he was a faster fighter, which it seemed like. um that The thing about the fight was is that you know He met a guy that that was tough, man. The dude was tough.
00:56:47
Speaker
And I'm telling you, it with they when they run it back, I'm riding with Martinez by stoppage. I feel like Martinez, if he had just listened to his corner and stepped around, because every time he stepped around, those angles were there for him. And the boy can crack. like I'm telling you, like i'm giving I'm giving him all his all his due. He could definitely crack.
00:57:07
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I just think, felt like Mbili was, I felt like he had like a little bit of an amateurish style that night. Like, he would just shoe shine, and like, he let five punts go. It was all, it's like an all heart type fight, you know what i mean So, I would definitely take Martinez, the the next goal.
00:57:24
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Hey, and that split draw, you know what I'm saying? that i said that's how, that's how I thought the that the blood fight was going to You know what I'm saying, Omar? But you got that one right, though, with the draw. that's that That's dope. Hopefully you picked it lead, because that's 25 points, man. You can't beat him. Oh, yeah.
00:57:37
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Yeah, that's 25 points. Yeah, that's crazy that you picked a draw, and it came out to me it could be a split draw. That's tremendous. Great job, Josh. 25 points right there. Yeah. Cover D, what you got on this one?
00:57:48
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Man, this fight, i actually thought ah the experience of N'Billy would get him to the promised land, around mid-round area, blood
00:57:58
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feel like the draw helped us out as boxing fans because of what the outcome of the main fight was. You got to look at Lester Martinez, a man from Guatemala, from Guatemala City. Shout out my Guatemala brothers and sisters. My grandmother is named Guatemala, which is funny.
00:58:13
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But, you know, oh he's trained by Bobak, who trains Bud Foster, Bud Crawford. Okay. so If he would have won and Bub becomes undisputed in the same weight class, that's a little turmoil. That's a little issue they're going to have to deal with. But with this big draw, we don't have to worry about that.
00:58:34
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I thought with Mbili's experience, Mbili was going to get Mabada there in the way he fights. But this was... this And like you said, Josh, this is one of those fights where... If someone is new to boxing and just want learn about boxing, I would equate it to if you want learn about UFC or mixed martial arts, watch Forrest Griffin against Stephon Bonner after Final is the first season, okay?
00:58:56
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the The ratings went from $1 million to $3 million to $4 million from the first round to the third round. You know what saying? So this is the type of fight that will... Get you on the boxing if you want to just learn about boxing.
00:59:07
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So I definitely love this fight. um I had, and Billy winning, i think seventh round or eighth round knockout, but I'm happy the way it worked out. That's why I don't only bet money on boxing because I'd rather see a good fight than worry about what round they should get knocked out.
00:59:21
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Shit. I haven't crossed over to that yet. I'm doing both. I haven't crossed over. Yeah, we all picked KOs for M'Billy except Josh. because we Yeah, I picked Lester Martinez.
00:59:36
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And, hey, you know, it's one of those interesting things. I just wanted to say this real quick. I'm flattered when you call me historian and all that. I'm just a lover of the history of boxing. So studying the history of boxing, man, this is that type of fight that is a separator because for even the best of the best,
00:59:58
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there are sometimes those fights in which all of the physical goes to the side right there and it comes down to the mental. And neither of those guys could be broken mentally on that night, you know, and that usually what's produced is what produces these iconic type of fights that you see because the the physical goes away. We know they're both in shape. We know they're, they're both in there to do their thing. They got game and all of that stuff did that mental and neither one are Both fighters, I would say, refused to be broken on that night, which is what I think makes it a very so special bout between the two. and you know a Salutes to both of them because this is the type of fight that you don't always get.
01:00:41
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And i think, as I mentioned, probably took a little something out of both of them, but they understood what was at stake right there. They understood the magnitude. And not every fighter understands that.
01:00:53
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You know what I'm saying? So neither one gave an itch right there. And that's what made it an amazing contest for us to fan. And that's why you'll see others I'm seeing in the comments and all of all that saying that this was the best fight on the night.
01:01:06
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And I definitely agree.
01:01:10
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And look, I mean, the reason I call you a historian, my brother, is because you studied the history of boxing. You are ah true historian of the game, and I actually don't know any better historian unboxing on boxing on YouTube. I'm going to continue to extol the virtues of your historical boxing knowledge, my friend. All right, cool. um Let's get some comments here. Shout out to Raz Klott, giving 86 boxing. Look at that. Shout out to whatever the channel. Raz Klott, he knows his stuff right there for sure. Hey, shout out to Raz Klott. Folks, go go follow him. He goes live as well.
01:01:48
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Raz Klott always dropping those dimes right there. He knows what he's doing right now. He understands. So salute to my man Raz Klott. Yeah, y'all definitely tap in with him. He says Billy needs to learn some defense, and he's off balance a lot. I 100% agree, and that's why he was catching those uppercuts, you know. He was getting caught with those uppercuts.
01:02:10
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Big about it. Big, though, he he fought the way that he typically fights. You know, he's going to keep coming forward. He has this knack for being able to carry that same type of ferocity, power, and energy into the later rounds, which – That definitely helps him because you usually look at guys with that build right there. They say the muscles, they tend to burn more or whatever it may be, burn more energy or whatnot and start to slow down. But he does not slow down.
01:02:38
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The lactic acid, yeah. And then speaking of lactic acid, he may not be on acid, but he's on something. Because he walks on the sky and networks with all of the boxing stars.
01:02:55
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Skywalker. Now let it rain. we look road and sorry i couldn't be here tonight i'm'm out here walk in the skies cleaning some windows for a fellow media brother but youre here though you're here right say hello this is the gabriel pail right here fell how's it going guys one of my what i my right and media in albuquerque we cover all the boxing events and and he does It's kind of like you guys, Ball and Buds. He covers and MMA and bare knuckles, his forte.
01:03:25
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Hey, we need to know you guys. We just love Matt and respect. We love Matt and respect. Who did he pick? up with Hey, Gabriel's been on the show back in the day when Angelo Leo was fighting. I don't if you remember.
01:03:37
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Who did he pick? I remember him before. Yeah, yeah. Who'd you pick in this fight? Crawford or Spence? Oh, man. I had a... I was on the wrong side. I had Canelo, man. i was telling Skywalker.
01:03:49
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yeah i got a join I'm going to line you up here in a minute. Welcome to the show.
01:03:57
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cowford but and crawper no da Respect to Crawford. Yeah, man he did his thing. Hey, man, Crawford's been getting his flowers everywhere, man. Everywhere. I haven't really seen too much flack or negativity. Y'all motherfuckers can't say shit.
01:04:13
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That's right. Respect to Bud. It's crazy. about it it was crazy heyin let hey yeah Skywalker, if you want to jump back on in a couple minutes, we'll be talking about that main event. We just got to go through the Walsh Bargain fight real quick.
01:04:26
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Yes, sir. Yeah, for sure. I'm busy working, but I just popping in just to show some love to you guys. I'm trying to get get it done before the sun goes down. It's a big house, man. so Hey, give us your quick thoughts now then. Everybody wants to hear it. Give us your quick thoughts on the Crawford Canelo fight.
01:04:41
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Hey, respect to Bud. Like I said, man, um I got to eat crow a little bit. But you know what? If you look at my prediction, I said that I didn't count him out. You know what I'm saying? I believe that i believed in him.
01:04:52
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um I believed that weight was going to be a big factor, which it wasn't. oh So, yeah, man, respect to Bud. We witnessed history in the making. But if you really want to talk history, I you know educated myself the other day with 86 Boxing. We were talking about...
01:05:09
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Yeah, a fighter holding holding it down in three weight classes at the same time. So, you know, like it's been done in the past too. so that's something I didn't know. of You know, i didn't know he was at, it was actively in three, three weight classes.
01:05:25
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yeah johnson Look at that, Josh. You ask and you shall receive. You said, I'm not a historian. And the three next things that come at you are the... part i learned so like one of the biggest learned but ah learned something. learned something. Henry Armstrong, Hammer and Hank right there. Yale, undefeated titles in three weight classes at the same time.
01:05:46
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Yes, sir. in Well, hey, we appreciate you, Skywalker. If you want to pop back in, we'll be here for a few more minutes. But let us ah but if not, then have a good workshop, brother. All right. Cool, man. All right.
01:06:00
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Later, guys. see Bye, brother. phone off and need letters All right, cool. Let's go ahead and get some more comments here before we keep it moving. Let's see. Where's the new? There we go. Okay.
01:06:11
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Ooh, Champ Ross. two and Oh, wait. yeah I missed one of Felicia's. Sorry. Felicia said, and Billy wasn't as technical as he needed to be. Needed more range, but definitely had heart.
01:06:22
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Oh, yeah. That's right. That's a clever. That's clever. Angel Diaz, you're correct. We need a rematch. a I mean, I know I want to see a rematch for sure.
01:06:34
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Some of you may not agree with me. Let's see. what was rolling but There he is. Champ Ross. What's up, brother? Look down to you, champ.
Boxing History and Cultural Discussions
01:06:46
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you. We did promote the Fight Picks group, as Poppy said. Everybody, again, if you want to join the Boxing Champ Fight Picks group, let us know. We'll hook you up with Champ Ross, and you can join the Facebook Fight Picks group for free.
01:06:58
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Enjoy. All right, cool. Let's see what else we got here.
01:07:05
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I will say, you're a Niner fan, put in the chat, if you're a fellow Niner fan. It's the Bay Area. Just saying. Ooh. Yes, well, he said, I thought Penelo would have a decision myself. Crawford looked good, no excuses. um Hey, we love it when people ah tell it straight.
01:07:20
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Vargas needs a new trainer. I don't think his father knew what he what to do with a taller fighter. We're going talk about that fight right now. Rasta, I didn't call Crawford out either.
01:07:31
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He just proved he is talented enough to fight in his true weight class. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Skip Ross, yes, sir. 86 Boxing, damn right in Soccerpedia.
01:07:42
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Let's see. Rascott, Barney Ross is up there behind Armstrong, going back to Johnson. Yeah, was about say Barney. Tony Canzineri is another one right there, Tony Canzineri.
01:07:53
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Felicia, yeah, he's like Trick Williams from TNA. Trick.
01:08:03
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Angel Diaz says, I got Jerry Rice's rookie card. I have six of them. Damn, you must be a nice one. You want to have five? Give me a deal. You call me Deion. Look here. You can call him by his heart. You call me by government. You call me Deion. So what's up? I'm a big Tottenham fan. I got some cards. I got a few cards. Let me get one.
01:08:27
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What's going on, brother? that That's fun. He is. He's the biggest Nottish fan I know. Look him up. While we're at it, my beer opened. Right here, we were doing the show the other day. It's right here. Shout out to our Sunday showdown, Ball and Check us out on Sunday.
01:08:44
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between the between the sign i my first yepp name Yeah, they like San Francisco because the LGBTQ community makes it sound. It's in San Francisco. That's fine. I don't care. We just set off. I don't care. I don't care.
01:09:03
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All the way to Farpreay. Oh, wait. Hold on. Rascott said yes, 49ers fan. But he's from Oakland. Come on, baby. Oh, that's okay. What happened to the rain? Bay Area. Bay Area. We and Alicia Gaff's family up Sacktown, the Paso Heights. We in there. Trust me. We got there.
01:09:18
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I didn't know that, Rascott. That's what's up, my man. I got you. The Bay Area. Yeah. Yes, sir. He falls around. can't live. yeah yes sir thought relax yeah Go swat the whip.
01:09:32
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Hey, hey, go swat the whip. I believe them Cowboys almost lost to them damn Giants, and you better put that puppet away. ain't got no team playboy. talking You you did. Yeah.
01:09:45
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yeah Oh, shit. All right, so Rascott says Tony Canzonari is another one. Crawford can be named next year. Yes, sir. Yeah, shout out to my man Dan. He mentioned that as well. But, yeah, Tony Canzonari, a hell of beast right there. Hey, one of the greatest fighters in history.
01:10:02
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If you don't know i look him up, folks. and You'll understand. He did law at a very early age, too. He also says Emile Griffith is a three-time undisputed guy. Emile Griffiths. He says he lives in Bretwood, property.
01:10:16
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Okay. Because he lives in Brentwood. yeah We got a lot of family up well by Sactown. I'm not going to say exactly what I just said, but other you know oh yeah, there you go. Hey, Champ Ross, you know what you can do with your Broncos ponies loving ass? You can get the fuck out of here. i He do like the Broncos. Hey, I'm not right here. You're looking back to Sir Cat. ain't heard. That's what you better be. All right, he does.
01:10:41
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Right, barely winning games. Get out of here. Somebody said club or favorite artist is Baby Bash.
01:10:50
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That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. Got a heel out there, you know what I'm saying? High heels in Dallas wearing stars. Get out of here. Hey, listen, man. I retired, Fab. I packed all the gear up. and I packed the dog jersey. All that shit went in the trash bag. i ain't lying.
01:11:09
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Wait, when was that? After what? After you traded Michael Parsons? No, man, was it was last year, man. I said that was it. I just couldn't do it no more, Fab. I was like, man, I no longer have the syndrome where you get beat on all the time and keep coming back. I don't got that. We saw where Jerry was when he was 16 at that school. he school we saw We saw that picture.
01:11:29
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, we saw that picture. Let's move it into the co-main event of the evening. Callum Balls 15-0 and 11 KOs had a unanimous decision over Fernando Vargas Jr. A total, ah pretty much just wipeout here, right? Kind of an ass whooping. Papi, we're going to start with you on this one.
01:11:50
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Man, y'all already know how I picked it to i picked it to begin with. You know, I've seen the Vargas boy in there in the bed, you know I'm saying, with the shorty over there doing the interview and stuff like that. I was like, really it was like what is going on here? this is These dudes getting ready to drop off some P.O.R.N. hub type stuff out here. He's supposed to be boxing you all up in the bed, lounging and namping and shit.
01:12:17
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No, man. But really what I what i thought was going happen kind of happened. I think Kalen Walsh was another level of above him. I believe he set him up. You know, I mean, Varkas kind of, you know, he had a lot of pride and stuff like that. And the family, the family name is is one that that comes with a lot of pressure. So, you know, shout out to him for still doing his thing.
01:12:35
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I just think Emiliano is the one, you know I'm saying my man coming in looking like Scarface. You know what I mean? Like he came in there looking like a Scarface. So Emiliano is the one out of the family, if you ask me.
01:12:46
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Yeah, me too. Yeah, but I think Walsh is ah you know wash was just a tad better that night, you know? So um I got it right, like all the other picks, but, you know... Well, you got it Billy wrong, but anyways, that's another one. Everybody got it. It's a So what you're saying is they were he was more worried about a little Netflix and chill. Yeah, Netflix and chill. He was worried a little more about a...
01:13:14
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about a Paramount Plus and down for the Count Plus. he was in He was in for a little Hulu and do you, maybe. was in for a little Peacock, and that's self-explanatory. Hey, look, y'all. Hey, listen, man. Y'all got daughters like that? Hey, women, have some respect for yourself. Make that motherfucker get up out to bed, bro. don't What kind of interview is that? like You know what I'm saying? Get up out to bed.
01:13:40
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I did see that interview. I didn't realize that was Vargas because I didn't wasn't paying attention to it. I just saw it scrolling through. I was like, what is this? Sorry. ah That's probably oops that's a ah personal message.
01:13:51
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um That's personal message too. Here we Rascott, Vargas had no game plan. He was defeated mentally. It seemed like after four rounds, he had no answer and no way to close the distance. Clubber D, do you think about that?
01:14:04
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Well, saw a video where people were were saying that, you know, Vardis had knocked them down when a their feet got tangled. And I saw someone was like, oh, that been called a knockdown. I was like, it don't matter. Okay. When i when i buy we talked about this fight ah last week,
01:14:18
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At 28, they were still saying he's a prospect, but Walsh was only 24. I'm like, nah, this prospect's really Walsh. One, it's Dane White's boy. He's been promoted by Zufa Boxing or whatever, UFC Boxing, whatever they call it.
01:14:30
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Two, this is a showcase fight. I know I give Vargas credit for calling all these fighters out at that weight class, but there's levels to this. And I feel like he doesn't have the same hunger that his dad had when he had the haircut with the little joint, with it with the dye.
01:14:45
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it's It's just not the same. I... The little
Crawford's Career and Future Prospects
01:14:50
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floof in the front. Yeah, the little floof. And that turned that fight took years off his life. But anyways, Randall was one of my favorite fighters. And Emiliano, like my Papa Tugnano, said, that's the one that I think out all the sons, that kid's the truth. He's really good.
01:15:05
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This one, is that i think he's at age 28. He's like, you know what? I need to make that step up and fight somebody or name someone to mind that can... gave over the hump and unfortunately Walsh is just too is too skilled for that and it was just clean sweep for me
01:15:21
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Yeah, I mean, it was. It was a clean sweep. that's what the judges had as well. i thought that I also thought Vargas was going to put up more of a fight. me you know I picked him because I thought he was actually going to try a little bit. But it seemed like, again, as as someone mentioned earlier, I apologize for not remembering who mentioned it, but just didn't seem like he was ah he was prepared for this type of fighter that he was going up against.
01:15:46
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um And it's like, man, if you're not prepared when you're going into a a fight like this against a Callum Walsh is experienced and is a good fighter in his own right, then you are going to have problems. And this was more of a problem. this was an ass whooping is what this was.
01:16:00
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um So, hey, it is what it is. All right. Cool. Well, thank you for that. Let's get into a couple of comments before we move into the main event. My bad, Josh. I apologize. i say so it might say so right here, but I'm leaning on the same side as the rest of them. you know I felt that one thing I didn't know is how much of a size difference it would be as far as and what Fernando Vargas was dealing with. I picked him to win via decision, but some of that essentially was tied to the namesake thinking he has a little bit of that.
01:16:31
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whatever his father has in him and all of that stuff. But I got to give props to Kalen Walsh because he pretty much took that out of him. And you're right. Fernando a bit timid as far as I'm concerned. And he never really found a way to truly close the distance, which you have to do if you're going to be the fighter giving up a bunch of reach and all of that stuff. I thought he had some good moments.
01:16:53
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I'm surprised that the scores being as wide as they were, though I do think that it was a very clear win for Kalen. Caleb Walsh. oh I wrote down one of the things I wanted to mention was that also i feel like what a disservice, I feel like a disservice was done because Following that Mbili and Martinez fight didn't help this contest right here because that was so action-packed that a lot of people, I can just tell you from just being in a fight party perspective, nobody's really paying attention to that contest because those were big shoes to try and fill right there, what Mbili and Martinez did, you know, and I thought that kind of,
01:17:38
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didn't help them either, you know, just thinking about the prospects of, of course, attracting fans and others who want to be involved in their careers moving forward. But that being said, I got to give it to Kalem Wall. She fought the fight that he needed to fight.
01:17:52
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I was disappointed in the fact that Fernando never really changed a ton up or much of anything up and Of course, he went out the way that he did, and he seemed to be a little bit content with it right there. So that's when you need that sort of separating factor right there, because I feel like his father would have found that.
01:18:11
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And I'm with Pabichun Yeo there. if I were to, you know, classify the brothers, I'm with Emiliano. I think he is the good as far as the totality of them, and i look forward to seeing him.
01:18:24
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Fernando? He's going to need to bounce back, in it'll be interesting to see if he has that hands what's needed there on that left side where the heart falls as far as being able to do something major in this sport because that was not a good look for his first real step-up fight.
01:18:45
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And, you know, time will tell if he ends up being someone that we'll continue to mention here moving forward. One thing that you said that I think does need to be addressed is, and and I didn't score this fight personally like I did the main event, so I don't actually know what I would have had.
01:19:03
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But I do agree with you then just from the looks of the fight that he probably, maybe the scores could have been one round closer or something like that. Maybe he won another round than just like almost a complete shutout.
01:19:17
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um And again, just from the looks of it, I didn't score it, but it seemed like it was he was at least in the fight a little more than than the scores indicate. yeah he Yeah, he had a small sequence there where you could see that he was closing the distance a little bit, and he was actually landing some pretty good shots, but he didn't keep up enough to where it really stood out from a totality's perspective. So I think that kind of hindered him right there.
01:19:41
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So the onus is on him to come back now, you know what I'm saying? So he's got the name and all of that stuff, but he's really got to do something – I would say he's got to be a little bit more special moving forward for people to get back into sort of the good graces, you know.
01:19:56
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Name value only gets you so far. I think all of us can agree on that. All right, cool. You got him an interview on the bed. Name value, I will say name value and also great value, depending if you have it against regular.
01:20:12
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yeah well I hope he would if he was in that bed, he was getting some cheeks, too. All right, let's get some comments here. Chad Ross says, Vargas did better than I thought. Walsh shit the bed, in my opinion. He was there to make a splash as the co-main.
01:20:26
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I wouldn't say that. How can you shit the bed when you almost, you know, blow out a person? I can't agree with that, Chad. I do agree that Vargas was a little better. I do agree there. showcase that fight to be the co-main and Billy and what's called should have been actually the real co-main. Just in attributes and accolades, that fight should not have been a co-main. That's called Dana White.
01:20:48
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That's my fighter. I want to put him in. And it brought down the momentum for the casual thing. and It brought down the momentum right there because of the type of fight that was fought, which I expected.
01:20:59
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Mm-hmm. Because let me know yeah people are like, it's it's up too worry I'm staying up too late. And you wouldn't say that if you're watching action-packed fight. you Yes. Right. That's true. Hey, and let let me put y'all on some game real quick, because I know a lot of people don't notice this stuff. But I've noticed that ever since Turkey got into the business, they've been paying European fighters and matrim fighters more than they're paying American fighters.
01:21:23
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and actually putting American fighters on the undercard, like the second or third fight of the night, bro. like They have been mad disrespectful on the placement of the bouts. You can't feed me a debuting Saudi Arabian boxer and say that he's better than somebody who's you know Steve Nelson. you can't you can't tell You can't sell that to me.
01:21:43
Speaker
They did the same thing with Tevin Farmer. They did the same thing with a whole bunch of people, man. Like, they, it's disrespectful, fam. Like, and Turkey is selling us, they selling us some whoop tickets, fam. Like, I know they trying to put some stuff together, but they selling whoop tickets. Like, you cannot push these dudes on us, man.
01:21:58
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We, uh... I think that's part of, uh, Americans, uh, dominance and ignorance to a lot of stuff because, unfortunately, we've been on top for so long and we... Stay on top....the bag of us on top.
01:22:11
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And now that we're not in control anymore because we fumbled it... they kind of say, you know what, I'm going to put... like I'm not going to say the name I'm going say, but they're going to put somebody up there ah that's from a different country that's that benefits them. Because but from Turkey's standpoint, yes, we have our American fighters, but I need to grow this sport and India or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. So I need to showcase people that look like them, opposed to people that look like us, Americans. So that's the mindset I think he's doing, because...
01:22:45
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Soon, of these fights are to be over there Riyadh season, and they're going to want to have a lot of Hamzat, Surazes, and others that kind of you know fit the bill so they can say, okay, yeah, that's that's that's that's that's our fight. Shoot the jab.
01:22:56
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Yeah, kind like, I want to see somebody who Mayweather or or you know or American, yada, ya yada. So they're just, you know, it's it is what is. Get that goop scoop ready.
01:23:08
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That's right. That's right.
01:23:13
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Not the goop scoop. Get the goop scoop. Get that goop scoop. All right, let me stop. All right, let's move on to some more comments here before we get canceled. Rascott, Callum Walsh will get better as long as he stays active. All right, let's see. Yeah, he's he's young. He's good. and He's got that. that's a private as a private comment. Y'all be having a lot of private chatter over here. It's hard to cut through these things.
01:23:40
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Emiliano... that No, that's private again. change <unk> but He's the man. He's best out of brothers. He's he's he's legit. Yeah, he is. Armando's more scrapper. I think Armando would be best.
01:23:53
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If he switched to like he's more smarts, he'd be stud. but Yeah, I like him. Armando's too aggressive for boxing. He's too open to get hit. I think if he went to MMA, he'd be great.
01:24:09
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All right. Rascott, not to mention, Walsh has some pop. and He made Vargas hesitant. Vampiro. Vampiro, we will get to this in just a second. Vampiro!
01:24:19
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Vampiro! My man right there. Says, I predicted this fight on the YouTube channel was going to put a grand on Crawford, but you chickened out. Shout out to my guy, Vampiro.
01:24:33
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I put my fight out. I'm in a nice payday right now. ah Chip Ross says, Turkey trying to make a Saudi pipeline of fighters. That's what they were just talking about. of i eat some go sco at the month right shoot Felicia says, I hear you.
01:24:52
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you I know you would demand at least a million dollars. I hear you, but they got the they got the money, so they're the shot caller. If I was in their position, I would do the same thing. That's exactly what I was thinking, Felicia, while they were talking.
01:25:03
Speaker
If I'm jerky, I'm going to do what I want. shit too bad but to go You want free pay-per-view? You take the fighters I put there, and you'll get your fighters too, but they'll get put where I put them. Man, hey, I'm telling you, Netflix is about $29 a month.
01:25:17
Speaker
I know motherfuckers that ain't got that. They'll be trying to determine whether they want to go get some ho-ho Debbie kicks or fill the gas tank or keep the lights on. So if you've got to have a Netflix subscription, it's people that can't do that, fam. I'm telling you.
01:25:30
Speaker
And his own. I'll tell you, you know what? Once we get to the next fight, I'm to say what I want to say. I'm going to start with me. with with the Oh, yeah, I got you.
01:25:42
Speaker
Rascott said, i would have loved to see Merrill versus Shiraz. Oh, yeah. Merrill and Shiraz. That'd be good. Right there. All right. And then he he also asked him if we talked about Inouye. We did not, but what are your thoughts on the Inouye?
01:25:57
Speaker
Fight, gentlemen. Anybody have any thoughts on that one? Not going to lie. I've been busy all i was busy all weekend. My brother in town. Yeah, your brother was in town. did not watch that fight. so I need to watch it myself as well. But that being said, I like MJ. And going into it, I picked...
01:26:15
Speaker
in a way via decision. And MJ, he's nice. He's got the amateur background and all that, but I heard he was dominated and wasn't really close. So I need to go back and watch it. I might do that a little bit later here tonight, as a matter of fact.
01:26:30
Speaker
But salute to Inouye, man. He's the man at 122. I think it's only up from here, I guess, unless Nakatani and him come to some decision or agree. Ooh, that would be crucial. Yayo, I'm looking at it now. It says, yeah, Inouye dominates Akhlamideev in a boxing masterclass by unanimous decision.
01:26:52
Speaker
I called some of the, I'm not getting up for any more Inouye fights. That's way too early, man.
01:27:00
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he's not He's not that guy to me. um I already thought it was disrespectful how they was trying to hand him the top spot, and that's what this whole move about him fighting this weekend was. It was like, okay, they thought they were just getting ready to hand this pound for pound number one over to any way.
01:27:14
Speaker
i've been i've been home I've been on this the whole time, fam. I see the plays, fam. You know what saying? like It's foul what they be trying to do to us, man. Terrence Bud Crawford is the king of boxing and the Clarissa Shields is the queen of boxing, period.
01:27:27
Speaker
The black American style is a style that everybody wants to learn, and I see the UK dudes starting to do it now, and that's why the Mexican dudes have a hard time keeping up with them because they copying us.
01:27:39
Speaker
like everybody else on the planet. So it's time for the respect to be gave out. it's not ah It ain't just about belt to ass like we put to Canelo. This is about respect. Y'all need to give it where it comes from.
01:27:50
Speaker
That's it. Give credit and we'll leave you alone, but you're going get this belt to ass and some lessons coming with it. I love it. That's hilarious. All right, cool.
01:28:02
Speaker
Let's get some other comments here. Champ says, I mean, it's Miss Inouye. Just seen the scores. Yeah, think we all did. Inouye literally cleaned out 122. He did. He only got Picasso left.
01:28:16
Speaker
Rascott says, Inouye is all around talented. There you go. Yeah, we get a powder for Bama. For sure. All right, cool. Well, let's move it into the main event of the evening.
01:28:28
Speaker
And I think Clubber D is going to hit on one of these points here, but ah Josh did mention it earlier already. 41.4 million viewers on Netflix.
01:28:39
Speaker
ah The U.S. audience or for... Live and same day viewers, because that's what really counts. The replays count too, but i'm car I want to know who watched it live.
01:28:50
Speaker
So live, um the U.S. audience was 20.3 million viewers, live and same day watches. um So anyways, what happened in this fight?
01:29:02
Speaker
Y'all, what an amazing fight. And I know um there are a lot of discrepancies on the cards and and where the scores ended up. And I know all these gentlemen will touch on this.
01:29:13
Speaker
But what I saw, even in the fact that, yes, Terrence Crawford did win that fight handily, I still saw a good fight. I still saw a fight I enjoyed. I enjoyed sitting there watching the whole fight, regardless of the...
01:29:26
Speaker
the the amount or lack thereof of of how people think of the, you know, dominance that Crawford put on or not, which I think, you know, obviously was pretty dominant. Again, didn't take away, as y'all mentioned earlier, when you're kind of talking about taking away the casual fan with the Callum Walsh kind of Vargas thing.
01:29:46
Speaker
You know, I was just, I was tied into this fight the whole time. Anyways, judges did score the fight. 116-112, and two 115-113s. Clubber D, I saw you talk about the 115-113s online. We are going to come to you in just a second.
01:30:02
Speaker
um So, again, Crawford started out very quick, as we all said we he needed to do in the last fight. He needed to get out to a quick ah start. He did. He came out throwing hands, and he was throwing combinations.
01:30:16
Speaker
and ah you know Canelo just looked a little like hesitant for a lot of the first rounds, a little frustrated, a little mad even at times. um Now, later in the fight, Canelo obviously started to pick it up, started to read Crawford a little more, but then Towards the end, Crawford just turned turned turned it on and pushed him out of the way.
01:30:36
Speaker
Clubber D, Crawford landed 165 of 442 shots 37%. Canelo landed 132 of 347 for 38%. Crawford did 33 more punches, but landed at the same percentage. What are your thoughts on the new undisputed super metalweight champion? but thirty eight percent so crawford didnt lay thirty three more punches ah but they landed at the same percentage what are your thoughts on the new undisputed supermetwe championmp Well, i you guys can't see this, but what I did was I scored the ah fight round by round and I put little things up there.
01:31:02
Speaker
And, you know, I know. Yeah, no, because I got i was getting drunk. and i it knew got more Shout out to the Ruby Scoopers at his house.
01:31:14
Speaker
and i I had Canelo getting two rounds, and there could have been swing rounds ah at that. i think it was like two and four. um But for starters, I'm going to talk about Netflix. And these are the numbers. they could not They might not be accurate. They could be a little false. But number one viewership on Netflix for live streaming, they had 125 for Jake Paul and Mike Tyson.
01:31:36
Speaker
They had 74 million for serrano taylor part two which i said that jake paul showcase serrano taylor and that that controversy and that career that's made for that all-female car to get viewed by so many people and then you have canelo versus crawford 41 million as the as the professor uh mentioned earlier so first and foremost i love the fact that crawford canelo their draw.
01:32:07
Speaker
People say Crawford wasn't a draw. He's always been a draw. it's It's that that that people you know think that since he's not a household name, people aren't tuning in. A lot of people tuned in to Crawford fights, even when he was with ESPN.
01:32:18
Speaker
on Second most thing I noticed, after they weighed in, they both weighed in at 167.5. Later on that day, when they filled out, the first thing I was like, oh, snap.
01:32:30
Speaker
Pause, but Crawford has filled out. He looks... about the same thickness as Canelo's super pulse. So with that being settled, I was like, you know what? and Okay, Crawford has ah has as as a really good chance at in this fight. And I know it sounds weird, a pulse worthy, but I like to see the body type. How do you feel out after you lose that weight? How did your weight cut go Look at his his the way he looked opposed to the way Charlo looked when he made that same weight.
01:32:56
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? So all that stuff plays a factor when it comes to these fights. um And he said that fighting Canelo, opposing someone like David Benavides, who might come in like 200 pounds, a taller 6'2", 6'3", guy.
01:33:08
Speaker
Canelo, he said, no, he's shorter. He's just thicker. Balls. But that's why Crawford made his decision to fight Canelo. Now, going to the fight, everybody said that Crawford would run.
01:33:20
Speaker
If you look at that ninth round where he stood in the pocket and embarrassed Canelo, Canelo said it himself, my body couldn't react with my brain. I just couldn't do it. yes That's telling you right there that Crawford's boxing IQ was one, two, three, four, nine steps above Canelo at that fight. okay He made him look like the smaller man.
01:33:42
Speaker
Crawford, you would think that was a what the bigger guy. This was like similar to Ruiz versus Roy Jones Jr. where he moved up to heavyweight. Oh, yeah. The domination.
01:33:54
Speaker
from the smaller guy. So I loved everything about what Crawford did. I thought it was going be a split decision because we know how Canelo gets down. You saw the Mayweather fight. the va Someone said a draw for the Bavol fight. So you you just don't know what Canelo.
01:34:07
Speaker
But God damn it, they got right on this. um Besides the 15, that's what dog shakes his head. and Besides the 15, the 1-13, the only thing i i disagree but regardless, Bud Crawford is the face of boxing and he's where everybody should look up and want to be if you want to become a boxer.
01:34:24
Speaker
the best. That's all I got. Yeah, man. He definitely proved it. ah He proved that he is the greatest of our generation. He proved that he is more skilled than the bri name most people had as for a long time there as a pound-for-pound fighter until you know recently when we talked about it slowing down a little bit. We'll get into that in a little bit, too.
01:34:47
Speaker
Yeah. So do y'all remember – this goes to what Clever you just talked about in the ninth round where Crawford stood in the pocket, right? And so I i know you all – I know you saw the the picture i I posted on the the Crawford thing, right, with the ah for the YouTube thumbnail where it was the the punch that he took where he couldn't believe that he had been punched. You know where he was like – oh yeah Actually, hold on. Let me show the the people what I'm talking about real quick. yeah all my hey
01:35:23
Speaker
Canelo came out of that thing looking like he was on the spectrum. here here When I watched Bernard first, Tito Trinidad, and Bernard was killing him with that jab, and his head kept on stabbing back, that's when I came with the phrase, si, senor. When Canelo got hit and looked that way,
01:35:46
Speaker
My new one is Mina. Because he's looking. It's like, ah, ah. Mina, Mina, Mina, Mina. Hey, baby. It's one of those. That's crazy.
01:35:58
Speaker
um So my first thought, and would I was trying to find a picture and I couldn't find a great picture for it. So I'm just going to use this one just because I can't find a better one. No, hold on.
01:36:10
Speaker
Actually, you know what? No, I need to find a better one before I even ruin this joke. I'll get back to it in a second. I've got to show you. But that's the picture I'm talking about, y'all. The picture I'm talking about is that punch where Canelo went back like this, like Copadice Amida, and then came back. He just looked at him like, look. Yeah, like, what the heck? What the fuck? So I'll bring the picture up. I'm talking about when I find it. It's going to be a surprise. It'll be very funny.
01:36:32
Speaker
But anyways, all right. um Let's go ahead and ah continue on there then. Yayo, you were up next. What do you got on this fight? don't know, man. Listen, i don't even, i didn't even, this thing became like a cultural war.
01:36:47
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? And that's the only thing I really even care about because it was a cultural war. And it's like, we ain't never asked for none of this. Man, listen, a matter of fact, if your small intestines is backed up with guacamole and refried beans, you probably went with Canelo that night. And you know what?
01:37:05
Speaker
And my intestines was nice and smooth, baby. I had chicken wings. You feel me? I had all own wings. Chicken wings, baby. You can refry beans and guac. Yeah, y'all can keep that because we was... I told you Canelo have problems with small fighters. Didn't I tell you that shit? Ain't Canelo been beat before?
01:37:24
Speaker
All them accolades you got? ah Let me get them. They said you was the face of boxing. Not tonight, baby. All you motherfuckers that... sport Stampeded out of the stadium and was running away from ice and shit like that.
01:37:39
Speaker
Yeah. hu We tried to tell you they don't like nobody that ain't white, but you didn't listen to us. So hu there's one for that. You know I'm talking about? I mean, bro, it was a masterclass.
01:37:50
Speaker
Crawford went in on his ass. Pause. this is two It was easy work, man. You know what i'm saying? Let's talk about the parallels. did Didn't Floyd Mayweather say, man, I was 38 years old when I cooked that boy. I was almost 38. Ain't Crawford almost 38?
01:38:05
Speaker
Damn, if history repeats itself, clap two times. Put a two in the chat. the Didn't it repeat itself? Yeah. Didn't I call it? yeah You know what? I got to say something for my homies, though. I want to thank all y'all for coming through with them payments.
01:38:19
Speaker
You know i'm saying? I cleaned up when Mayweather did Pacquiao in. I cleaned up when Mayweather did everybody else in. And I cleaned up when Crawford did Spence in. And I c cleaned up when Crawford did Canelo. But I've been cleaning up, boy.
01:38:32
Speaker
Y'all might start calling me the janitor the way I'm out here cleaning and collecting bills. You know what mean? um No, man, but it was just too it was too much racism that was happening with this fight. and Everybody that be rolling their R's and shit, all y'all motherfuckers going with Canelo. Matter of fact, I seen a Cuban dude that said, he had a Team Mexico hat on.
01:38:52
Speaker
You look like us, bruh, and you got a Team Mexico hat on. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know what? There's a ass whooping for the Cubans. Oh, hey, I know you in there, Jose. Don't run, Jose. you you know You're in eyes and drumsticks now, baby.
01:39:06
Speaker
You know what i'm saying? You just see how your boy's been taking them L's? Yeah, you picked Crawford, didn't you? They kicked you out of the group. Why? Because they don't like that you like black people like that. This is one whooping for them. You saying? Because you are dudes and we fuck with you. So we're going to put something on you. Hey, I know there's another Cuban dude out there who followed Detroit.
01:39:24
Speaker
And all three of y'all tried to back me down and said that old Canelo was too big and all that. hu This is one for you too, fam. I still love you, but get this ass whooping. You know I'm saying? Hey, hey, hey.
01:39:35
Speaker
Hey, didn't I tell you quit crying? Hey, if you keep crying, I'm going to give you some money. There's a difference between the way a black man whooped your ass and the way somebody else whooped your ass. You get a lesson with it.
01:39:47
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? That's the buckle, too. He said the buckle, too. like Oh, we trying to put dents in the motherfucker. You gonna walk out this motherfucker with a leprechaun print on your forehead when we get done stapling it across there? You feel me? You me? I don't even want to cook no more, man.
01:40:10
Speaker
I'm just telling you, like, i got some I got some pit-up shit I gotta get up off my chest with these motherfuckers because that shit is unnecessary. And I know the next person that Canelo fights, if he black, this shit gonna be switched right back home.
01:40:21
Speaker
here Oh, I'm going to have another belt for that ass. it's ah Hilarious. And next time, I hope the puppet is also in the picture when you're belting that ass.
01:40:32
Speaker
um That was great. ah Let's get some comments here before we get to jo Josh on this. Felicia says it was an excellent fight. Judges' cards were trash. ah there Champ Ross says Crawford filled out solid. He was ready for everything Canelo had.
01:40:48
Speaker
Rascott Crawford is above Manny and Floyd and Usyk and Inouye. I don't know. Well, do you all agree with the Floyd one? yep Yeah, he bent him up for it.
01:41:01
Speaker
Two division. He was two division undisputed before this fight, right? Yeah, no that's true. You ready? so I mean, but a lot of people consider Floyd to be the ah greatest small time. That's why I'm asking. He's smoking mirrors right there. That's all.
01:41:15
Speaker
He's smoking a little bit now. Champ says, what do you guys think about the foot placement Crawford was doing to frustrate Canelo to take away the left hook? all man well He did more than He would hit his
01:41:30
Speaker
Yeah, he was pinning that. He was pinning that. He pinned Canelo's arm to his body and turned him and then hit him with a five piece and then turned him again and gave him promo. Woo! When you came out with the Desperado song saying that that's what I'm messing with.
01:41:47
Speaker
I'm giving this man an opportunity to sing a song ah that's near and dear to Mexicans to prove that I'm not racist. I'm with everybody. It don't matter. We don't know about that.
01:41:58
Speaker
It didn't even matter that he he paid respects to him because that shit was it was quiet like it was quiet like crickets in that motherfucker because Carlton was beating his ass up. Canelo hit him a couple times and the crowd erupts.
01:42:10
Speaker
o Yeah, no, fam. Yeah, just just hold his ass. I felt like I felt the energy from the black people who was standing up talking shit while they was in a sea of Mexicans.
01:42:24
Speaker
And then motherfu ah owe them going from the fucking press conference all the way until he, matter of fact, even after the fight, when he gave y'all some respect, y'all was still born. Get some old belt to ask. And he shouted out Bill Haney the post press conference said that Bill Haney was the first one to say, hey, you can do this.
01:42:42
Speaker
that's just You can do this.
01:42:45
Speaker
That's great. um so And a quick reminder of the picture I was talking about, right? That's the Canelo shot that he took, right? All right. Now, I want to show you the first thing that came to my mind.
01:42:58
Speaker
I've got two pictures for you.
01:43:05
Speaker
dinner minute ah It was the first thing I thought of, y'all. I thought of this alien with the neck. I was like, it looked like that stupid alien.
01:43:21
Speaker
I'm not going to front. time I was walking my dog I had some ice cream. I was lactose intolerant. And I got to the park, kind of close to my house. I was walking like him. We walked out that diner, trying to to my house. or but
01:43:36
Speaker
It was bad. It was bad. So you tell me this is what his neck was like.
01:43:45
Speaker
but And Clever D, you know what the funniest part is? Hold on. You know what? I'll get to it in a second. Let me get to Josh first, but that's funny you said that. All right, Josh, go ahead, brother. What you got on this one? Hey, I share so many of the same sentiments that the others just shared. What I wanted to note that, of course, – I only gave Canelo two rounds, and I can't remember which rounds there were, but I only gave him two rounds. So those cards were closer than what I thought.
01:44:11
Speaker
Also, as Clubber had mentioned, I likened Crawford's move to 168, similar to that Roy Jones. The way they went about it, you just knew was meticulously done, and they went about it the right way, not just someone who said, okay, yeah, I weigh this when I walk around or whatever, and I'm just gonna go there.
01:44:29
Speaker
But he was strategic about it, and you could just tell that he's a guy that's dedicated to his craft and what he's able to do there, you know. And i had switched to Crawford for the longest. I had been leading Canelo, but then something told me, hey, you know what, Crawford, just think about it from scratch.
01:44:48
Speaker
studying say the history of the sport and some of the greatest that we've seen and there have been others who've gone up multiple weight classes to win world titles to become undisputed or whatever it may be and I just feel like Crawford had that makeup about him just seeing the way he approached things just if you know his background know what he puts into being at the level that he is then you can understand why he is able to accomplish what he was able to accomplish so that's why i ended up leaning towards him And also kind of what was alluded to here, and I was going to say, I'm sure this might be controversial for some, and just from what I've seen, just thinking about the Sugar Ray Leonard's, the Sugar Ray Robinson's, the et cetera, et cetera, I feel that
01:45:31
Speaker
Crawford would have beat Floyd Mayweather as well, just looking at what he brings to the table there. That's just my thoughts right there. really ah I see what Crawford brings to the table, and i just think that he has that extra thing about him that puts past a number of people. So he's most certainly...
01:45:51
Speaker
going to be recognized as one of the all-time greats. To think about boxing history is, of course, there have been a number of all-time greats. So it's hard. I've seen some like Mount Rushmore thing. I think Showbiz, the adult, put Crawford in his Mount Rushmore or whatever. He had Langford.
01:46:08
Speaker
He had Langford. He didn't have Ali. He had Langford and Henry Armstrong, who I'm in favor of, of course. He had Langford, Henry Armstrong, Crawford, and I can't remember who the other person is, but essentially there are a number of people that left out.
01:46:28
Speaker
I think that's a big much. I wouldn't necessarily put Crawford in or Mount Rushmore. People have their own choice, but as far as the greatest boxers that we've seen, I think that Crawford, he fits that billing, and he's going to be a name that's remembered And Mitchon, among the best of the generation for sure.
01:46:48
Speaker
And I got nothing but props for him. and i think he's proved himself. and He's proved himself. and And he had a period there. A lot of people were counting him out, talking about his resume. If you look at who he's beat, he's beat some very solid opponents, all of varying styles. So I'm...
01:47:06
Speaker
I've never been against him, and ultimately he's proved to be sort of that person that he was expected to be, at least from the standpoint of leading into each of these fights. And, hey, I can't pick against him in any scenario. I don't see any scenario right now, least. So I think he is most certainly one of the all-time greats.
01:47:29
Speaker
and not being a prisoner of the moment, I think he takes out a lot, even this previous generation, though in a series of fights, things could, you know, wins and losses could, you know, exchange hands and whatnot, but man, he's he's he's legit, real deal.
01:47:48
Speaker
So I've got some follow-up questions here then for the rest of the panel, and Josh, I want you to answer a one question one question first, and then we'll go to everybody else. Would you put him in your in your Mount Rushmore then? No, it's it's so hard, and and it's primarily because just when really look at the history of the sport, there are there have been so many names, many who have been forgotten, and comparing modern times to the olden times, essentially. Mm-hmm.
01:48:16
Speaker
It's like night and day in some sense. There's something about, say, back in the day, fighting Joe Gantz fighting 42 rounds against um battling Nelson. No top cover in the heat of Wilds. That's fucking crazy.
01:48:32
Speaker
There's something about that compared to hey what we see today with the 12th round or whatever. We're talking under the markers of Queensberry rules, so these are three-minute rounds. Think about that. 42 three-minute rounds, you know what I'm saying?
01:48:44
Speaker
42 rounds. Yeah, that's why it makes it so tough. So I don't necessarily have him in my Mount Rushmore. That being said, I really need to think about it a bit more, but he is – of the same ilk and likeness of those great guys from the past. It's just hard to compare them, really realistically speaking, once you know about the conditions of the previous years or the old days compared to the conditions of today.
01:49:14
Speaker
But that being said, all of that aside, he is certainly worthy of mentioning Among those types of names for sure and I think he's shown that by virtue of the weight that he scaled in the dominating fashion in which he's done it. So it's one thing to just beat Canelo, but he practically dominated Canelo for the duration of that contest.
01:49:38
Speaker
Same that he did with Errol Spitz there at 147. Same that he did with those at 140. Same that he did with those at 135. So I think he has that all-time great making about him and that's why I put him there and the difference between guess you to say him and Floyd is in the sense that there there were no catch weights that type thing Crawford hey he went up there he he he came from 154 where he only had one my who ground and beat the undisputed pound champion
01:50:09
Speaker
And I think that is saying something right there. So I think he's, yeah, one of the greatest of all time for sure. but and But there is a distinction between the new and the old era. So you would probably have to have a Mount Rushmore of both an old Mount Rushmore and probably a newer.
01:50:26
Speaker
And even maybe a mid-60s, 70s, 80s Mount Rushmore. So you might have to. No, man. Fuck all that. We ain't giving nobody. We're going, yeah, yo, my bad. Yeah. We didn't get nobody to know Easy House. You got to choose. Is he or is he not a big mouthwash for him? Man, he is on that motherfucker for sure.
01:50:44
Speaker
Because y'all was getting ready to give Canelo all the accolades. He done played y'all for like the last 10 years. yes He got all these great names on his resume. And when people look back, going to be like, oh he beat him, him, him, and him.
01:50:56
Speaker
It's not going to reflect that those people were... um you know, at the end of it, or they were, you know, they were cherry. It's not going to reflect that. This is going to say that he fought him. Right. And the people who can't see it are going to think that he did some great. So if they was getting ready to give him all the accolades, the same way they gave Lomachenko, all the accolades, the same way they gave all these other people, all these accolades, when a black fighter beats them, those accolades now belong to him.
01:51:20
Speaker
Period. Ain't nobody, he's the first three-time undisputed champion? What? That's a motherfucker, that's legacy-defining shit right there. And he had to do it against opposition. Like, Bob Arum really, really could have promoted Terrence Crawford better than what he did.
01:51:36
Speaker
He was spending too much money on some other people who didn't pan out. And that's usually how it goes, right? So that's why I got a problem with people not giving us our respect when it's due. They always say, oh, well, this style is wack and this style, no, man.
01:51:50
Speaker
But is it? Yo, this dude got shot in the head and drove himself to the damn hospital. I mean, can we give it up just for that? You know what I'm saying? like And then for him to go and do what he did, like, listen, no, uh-uh, bro.
01:52:04
Speaker
He's going on that Mount Rushmore because I'm tired of watching them try to put people like Chocolatito and Inouye on the Mount Rushmore. And Ronda Rousey, I remember when they said she was better than Ali at one place. You know what I'm saying? No, we're not doing that, fam. We're not doing that.
01:52:20
Speaker
Because we know, like I said, King Crawford, Queen Crawford, Queen shields, right? So if you're the king and you're the of course on the Mount Rushmore.
01:52:30
Speaker
You got to be. Okay, but I mean, i when culberty we're talking to Mount Rushmore. ah Muhammad Ali's on mine, at least, and and other great fighters. is he on your Mount Rushmore, Cliber?
01:52:42
Speaker
Yeah, so it's all it's hard with Mount Rushmore because i don't have the vast knowledge of Josh. Josh was way back to back when Stolman, Caveman Johnson fought Caveman McCormick. Caveman Johnson versus McCormick. They're fighting over to see who gets them cut that night. But, ah you know what saying? Like, for me, i feel like Muhammad Ali, for what he...
01:53:03
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His fighting is one thing, but what he did outside the ring is something totally different. And for that, he's kind of like on his own pedestal. For the fighters, you know, that influenced me, I'll put Crawford's on there for sure.
01:53:17
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You know, Jones is on there for sure. my favorite fighter of all time, Pernod Whitaker, is on there. And for one last person I'll throw would probably be... a
01:53:30
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Ooh, man. This is this this era. So it's not like, I'll say Mike Tyson, but like that. I'll put Mike Tyson. That's just like 81 though. Nothing too crazy.
01:53:41
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I would say, you know, and things could change and evolve over time. if I had to think about it just from my perspective and looking at the history of the sport and kind of tapping in and studying that aspect of it, and this could, of course, ultimately change. For me personally, I would have Muhammad Ali,
01:53:59
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I would have Henry Armstrong. I would have um Archie Moore, I think is the greatest light heavyweight champion that has ever lived. I think Sam Lankford is the greatest pound-for-pound fighter, the greatest heavyweight, of course. I think that is Muhammad Ali.
01:54:20
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And then for that fourth, it would i have to either be... Harry grab or um for me. Yeah, likely that Harry grab because I think he had the greatest resume in boxing history. When you look at it in totality of who he beat.
01:54:37
Speaker
So I had to actually put him there him or sugar and Robinson. Of course, who I think is one ah another one who has one of the greatest resume. But I think the two greatest resumes in the history of boxing are Sam Linford and Harry Greb, and they fought in the earlier years. Now, it's very different stylistically because we don't have a lot of video on those individuals compared to where we are now.
01:54:59
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So that's why I go with such. But for me personally, that's what I'd be thinking. And if you look at their resumes and digest their careers as a whole, that's when you see that it's hard to compare some of the Modern fighters to some of those from back in the day, you know what I'm saying? It's almost apples and oranges in some sense, you know, but that's where I would put things right there.
01:55:21
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but Okay, cool. Yeah, I mean, I haven't actually thought about it, but I definitely know... Muhammad Ali would definitely be on there ah for me. And moving on to other ones, I'd have to think about it for a while more. So I'll defer to these gentlemen here, but I know Ali would definitely be on there.
01:55:37
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So, all right, cool. Let's move into some comments. One thing I do want to ask as well to y'all, because Felicia did bring this up and CoverD did as well. What would you have had for the scores then?
01:55:47
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What would have been your score on the card? I know my thing, I had it, I did score it in an app and I had it 118, I think 110. that it is? Let me see what it is. Two rounds for Canelo.
01:56:03
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Two rounds for Canelo? Okay. And then we'll get Clubber D when he gets back. i Actually, i had Canelo having, oh, there he is. Clubber D, what would you have had as your judge's scorecard here?
01:56:15
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Oh, I had 10 to 2.
01:56:18
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10 or 2 Crawford. Canelo, I think, was the second in the fourth round that I i could have been swinging rounds. I'll give him Canelo just to be nice. But I feel like Crawford pretty much dominated this whole fight. he got in the pocket, got out the pocket, moved around, kind of mobilized or demobilized Canelo's offense to where he was just swinging at his trunks the whole time. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, Crawford, and he...
01:56:44
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as the After the fight, he said he felt his power and said it wasn't that bad. so um but I think that's why that ninth round, he said, you know what? We're going to do this right in the middle. so um yeah good cool so We're all along the same lines. I agree with Josh. and I had had three rounds for Canelo.
01:57:01
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um but i was also giving I was probably giving champion rounds maybe even when I shouldn't have. so but i thought i was actually trying to score it as I thought the judges would also kind of be scoring it. As you all know.
01:57:13
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I thought it was going to be a draw. I thought there was going to be mad shenanigans going on in this game, but apparently there were not. All right, let's get to the rest of these comments before we um get out of here. Felicia, I wasn't impressed with Canelo's conditioning, the lack thereof, reminding me of when Money May fought him.
01:57:31
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Champ says, right after six rounds, I knew it was over. Crawford was laughing, smiling. He had him then. Yeah. He also said, yeah, look, I don't know who else caught flashbacks, but I saw my dad coming after me when, when Poppy, uh, without the belt. I was like, I was like, no, Poppy.
01:57:53
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Champ says Floyd didn't take no risk. That's in that goat talk that we talked about with fur ah Crawford. Alicia says, not too much on Floyd. Floyd is the epitome of discipline, dedication, and drive.
01:58:05
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And held great alliteration there, my friend. And he held his title over a decade, not to mention every cat that fought him got paid because he paid. Well, he didn't buy people like us.
01:58:17
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because he didn't want fight Paul Williams, and he didn't want to fight Winky Wright. Margarito. yeah he Yeah, Margarito also. He's like, oh, ain't fighting him. he um' I'm worried about my health. It's on wax. He said that. so it's kind of Towards the end, he's fighting Baltimore and couple other fighters. I'm not saying he didn't deserve to pick and choose, but he picked and chose at the end.
01:58:38
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Okay. Champ Ross, I honestly think Crawford only got to third gear on Canelo, and he thinks he had a fourth gear. Yeah. but No doubt. Did I say pee-wee instead of sweep-pee? My bad if I did.
01:58:50
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I didn't. You're Boxing is almost like baseball. Being around for so many years is tough to nail down a Mount Rushmore. Yes, no doubt. That's why I cut it off to my the people I've seen.
01:59:01
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That's what makes it tough, you know, because there are a number of black fighters from back in the day who didn't get a shot at a world title that are some of the greatest that never won a world title. Sam Lankford being one of those, black Prince Peter Jackson being one of those, and I could go out and on, of course.
01:59:17
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So that makes it tough. Can I add to that? Yeah, go ahead. My only add is just ah my what if. What if Wittigbo and Mike Tyson actually fought the Battle of Brownsville?
01:59:30
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ah Mike probably would have bit him too. Bo was my guy until the issue. You know what I'm saying? That's Roo with Tim Ross stare.
01:59:39
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but bo was my guy until the issue ill say like as rub on ro sta For sure. Longest boxing was always Henry Armstrong, Joe Lewis, et cetera. Joe Lewis is probably somebody I would have in my Mount Rushmore, just because, again, I'm not yeah as much of history. Only lost three times in 69 fights at heavyweight, and those three, well, one of them he lost to Max Mellon. He underestimated him or whatever. And then the other two came. he was a little bit odd in his career. Like Marciano.
02:00:10
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So, yeah, it's one of those things. So that makes it tougher. Henry Armstrong, as mentioned, now you can share the video. He had the featherweight, welterweight, and... lightweight title all at once, you know, in the sense of he held all three undisputed at one time, you know, and that's crazy. He was about to win the world middleweight title, but it was some fishy stuff with the scorecards there when he fought Seferino Garcia. So I say that to say that, yeah, there's so many layers to the history of the sport and the fighters involved with it.
02:00:42
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It's hard to say one thing is definitive, you know. Makes sense. Yeah, no, I mean, I agree. I think there's a lot of people that need to be evaluated, and it's like thousands of people, and it's very hard to nail down, especially when you're bringing up to people like me.
02:00:58
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I'd never heard of Sam Langford, and now I just looked him up, and I'm about to go watch some fights now because I want to know what you're talking about. Hey, well, let me get let me give you something, man, too, something you can go look up.
02:01:08
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that was name There was a dude named Tom Molyneux. It's spelled with the French way, M-O-L-I-N-E-U-X, I believe. He fought in the early eighteen hundreds He was a slave that lived on the plantation. oh yeah there And his his owner, ah bet or the owner's son the plantation owner's son bet him to win.
02:01:30
Speaker
and he won to fight so they gave him five hundred dollars and his freedom tom know and he's from allal virginia Yeah. That's why we... That's why we... That's a lot of fucking Whipping y'all ass, man. They motherfucking... He was understudy to this guy by the name of Bill Richman, who kind of had done it first, and then he went over fought Tom Cribb, who was this British cat who...
02:01:57
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Ultimately, he was kind of cheated out of the wind where they were breaking Tom Molyneux's fingers and that type stuff in the midst of the rounds. So it's some word to check it This was in the pugilistic era of bare knuckle, you know, so it was rules. London Prize ring rules or whatever. They're like motherfuckers from the DMV been whooping ass for a long time. Yeah.
02:02:19
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would a bo boo down here by the way, answer your question there I did the calculation here of inflation from to now. one hundred thousand dollars in eighteen fifteen would be equivalent to two million ah little over two million dollars now great change this and he only gave that motherfu a five hundred dollars and his i could give my own name little more $500 is only worth in today's money. So they he got It's right now. any public is freedom so yeah That's true. Freedom is... is here.
02:03:00
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favor when the ali when the ali ad go away he he was running that dana white system yeah but ah ah dana white sister don't get in here and ili act sd the row and bigtime cons with it I don't like it.
02:03:17
Speaker
I'm not a fan. I see they're trying to pitch to the people saying that with the Aliak, it kind of takes you around. It's more of you get paid for what you're worth. but No, they dictate. yeah The fighters won't know the truth. The the Aliak currently, the promoter has to share how much they're going to make for a particular fight.
02:03:41
Speaker
or a car you fight card, you know, and this would change that to what it is when youf with the UFC, where Dana kind of dictates what you're going to pay, irrespective of what the card in itself is going to make as a whole. So I don't like it.
02:03:55
Speaker
yes It's kind of like the anti-PVC policy, because PVC was paying their five- Money grab there for Dana. It's a money grab. Big time money grab. He could have set up an MMA tournament.
02:04:06
Speaker
Why do you want to do set up a boxing type of league? Why don't you set up a another prospect-based m MMA league? I think it's BS. They want they want they want to pretty pretty much control.
02:04:18
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Yeah. cash Man, the people who should be controlling should be the ones that's whooping everybody's ass. That's how I feel. Yeah. It's crazy, man. A couple good Instagram shout-outs here. We got our brother that you were just talking about, Cleber D, Abay, that you went down to see this weekend, joined us on Instagram. Shout-out to him.
02:04:37
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so and And then as well, Dion Pruitt, the business XXL man, the fighter undefeated out of Louisiana. He saw that great interview.
02:04:49
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Yeah, he is. If you didn't see the interview I did with him, he's a very ah very energetic and, yeah, he's just upbeat. And he did the whole Muhammad Ali little poetry thing, and he did his own little twist to it, and it was awesome. So go check it out on Instagram. Salute to you.
02:05:07
Speaker
Dion Pruitt. I'll tap in with him. All right, cool. ah The last questions here that everybody really wants to know about is what's next for both of these fighters. Alvarez obviously um has been fighting a long time, even though he's only two years younger than Crawford. He's been fighting since he was like 15.
02:05:25
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in Mexico. So there are talk of possible retirement, but I know that he also mentioned in an interview that he would also think about a rematch. A lot of people want to see a rematch.
02:05:38
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um That may not be the first thing that Crawford wants to do. He said he's going to go home and rest with his family and then evaluate with his team, as most people would say in that instance. Gentlemen, we'll start with you, Clubber D. What are we thinking about what's next for both of these guys?
02:05:53
Speaker
I think, first and foremost, I think Canelo has two more fights left on his contract with The Gala Sheik. So he got paid $150 million for this. So I'm sure he's going to fight again. I don't know if it's going somebody like Hamzat or I don't know if Steve Banks Jr. was talking about fighting him as well.
02:06:16
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But I feel like it's not going to somebody that we really... care to see him fight. It's one of those bounce-back fights. And his last fight will be maybe somebody of of stature. And then finish up with Crawford.
02:06:27
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Okay. he okay It's not going to be Benavidez. don't think Benavidez is going to be it. um I feel like he's going to back down to 160. And Genovic has two belts. There's Carlos Adamos and Arislandi Lara, who has another belt, who's older than Crawford.
02:06:48
Speaker
I think Papatrinho and Skywalker talked about this on Sunday night, but I feel like he moved down to 160 and clean up that division to be four-time undisputed. So you do see Canelo and Crawford fighting at third point? Is that what you said? No. You do not see that happen? Not at all.
02:07:02
Speaker
Okay. Yayo, what about you? What do you do do you think about that? Hell no. Hey, man, Canelo, you had a nice run, my guy. but um You know what I'm saying? ah Him and his fans, they they got to exit. They got to exit stage left.
02:07:17
Speaker
These motherfuckers is not welcomed in the sport. Not by me anyways. Damn, not the whole sport, bro. They got an exit stage left because that type of shit that they was doing, that shit ain't even called for, fam. I'm telling you, that shit ain't had me pissed off like a motherfucker. I'm serious. like I almost fucked some friendships over that up over that shit.
02:07:38
Speaker
but okay very you know but we but we But we know now that Clever, you said he has to fight two more fights. So what? yeah but yeah I mean, they go. It's going to be like it's like it's been this last 10 years that he it's been.
02:07:50
Speaker
He probably going to clean up another another two UK dudes. You know what I'm saying? going to feed him. They're going to give him some lunch meat. I mean, yeah, they're going to give him some lunch meat, man. And honestly, you know what?
02:08:04
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he should i mean do he's How much more money do you got to make, fam? What's enough? right yeah worry about like What about the pride of getting your belts back from Crosby? He didn't earn them belts the right way to begin with.
02:08:18
Speaker
That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? He doesn't feel that way. he thinks His fans don't feel that way either. And and that's why you got to give Crawford all that much more respect because of what he did.
02:08:29
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He took all of that. All the bullshit they gave him, he'd get that too. like When was it when's the last time you seen a Mexican drink some Hennessy? When was the last time you seen a Mexican drink some Hennessy?
02:08:42
Speaker
He had a Hennessy sponsorship, fam. That shit is crazy. That shit is crazy. What you mean he got Hennessy? You couldn't get out of somebody black? Don't don't y'all associate us with that?
02:08:53
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Yeah, I said it. said it. You know what I'm saying? But he also came out. Listen, Bud, if I was Bud, this is what I would do, right? So I really, to be honest, I think Bud should sell off into the sunset on the top of the mountain and then just tell everybody kiss his ass on the way out because they didn't give him the respect he he earned.
02:09:13
Speaker
while he while he they didn't give him his followers why he was here. So if I was him, I would just ride off into the sunset. But if I wasn't him, I would break that belt back out. He just had a fish fry. Hey, Boots Ennis, didn't you go to try to help this motherfucker? Come over here and get this ass whooping.
02:09:29
Speaker
Ass whooping. Hey, Jameel Charlo, you remember you was going against when we was talking about Earl Spence? I told you mind your motherfucking business. And I was talking while I was whooping his ass. Come on over here.
02:09:39
Speaker
Get this ass whooping so we can really submit this because that be four divisions undisputed. If he beats Jermell Charlo, I'd love to see that. That's what they should have gave us the first time, and that's what they should give us now. If he's going to do anything else, go ahead and get that boots.
02:09:53
Speaker
I mean, you don't got to get boots, but you definitely got to get Charlo though. Charlo needs some of that hitting on women and stuff like that. Hey, come on over here, boy. We don't we don't hit women. We hit each other. You're right about that. No, but seriously, though, man, honestly, I don't want to see neither one of them fight no more.
02:10:11
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I think they've done what they had to do in the sport. Bud's made his bread. I think he should just you know, right off into the sunset and I'm giving them flowers right now and just be done with it.
02:10:22
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Go fishing. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, i'm ah I'm kind of in that same boat right there. I think that the choices with the both of them, you know, I feel like we could see a Canelo versus Chris Ubane Jr., especially if he wins this rematch with what's-a-face.
02:10:42
Speaker
Also, as it relates to Crawford, the ball is in his court. You know, it depends on what he wants to do realistically. Maybe he goes out to 160, even 154. There's still fights on the table there, but it's all based on what he wants to do. But I think he's admitted himself, as has Canelo.
02:10:59
Speaker
Not a ton more that can be accomplished by Canelo. I think he solidified himself. You know, there are many who hold him in very high regards and view him as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time. You know, so it's just a choice of how he wants to continue to compete. Do I think we've seen the last of both of them?
02:11:20
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I don't think so. I feel like both of them will be in there in some mix. yeah So it'll be interesting just to see what Crawford's next fight is, if any, because I feel like it's pretty much just open table, you know, and you can choose between 168 and 154, you know, and maybe it's Boots, maybe it's Genevich, maybe it's Sebastian Fendor versus Keith Durbin winner, you name it, you know what I'm saying, I just think the sky's the limit with him.
02:11:53
Speaker
So you don't see a Canelo Crawford rematch either? I can't see that happening as well. i can. i don't know how much of i fan sort of pulse and expectation will be there considering how dominant overall Crawford was, you know what I'm saying? So i think it would be just merely for the money if they were to rematch again, at least without having some other fight or whatever it may be in between such.
02:12:23
Speaker
I will jump in with this because this is... I had listened to Crawford on Ariel Hawane, and he touched on this this individual the name of Ilya Tapora, because they have the same music.
02:12:39
Speaker
Ilya Tapora, he's just moved up to... 155 is 155 UFC lightweight champion. And he's not happy with Canelo. No, sorry. He's not happy with Crawford using the same music as him and saying he can beat him now.
02:12:53
Speaker
Now, if this was a money grab and, um, Crawford, he's good friends with Dana White. Crawford has shown in the past that he actually did used to wrestle.
02:13:05
Speaker
If he wants to go out and become UFC champion, i' I'm all for that. If he fights Indian to Port, if the money is right and he puts Indian to Port where he needs to be, I can see him fighting him in the UFC.
02:13:19
Speaker
In the in MMA. He does not take you down. He likes stand and box. But he could take him down. Does Bud have any MMA training? Bud knows how to wrestle. You can defend a takedown. You stop that takedown. watch in the may but he could take him down does does like blood at board he broad does i have any of themetri blood know how to whistle like a federal take down you stop that takedown you can no no no i didn't know he had yeah I didn't know he had wrestling experience. because if you Oh, you didn't see him?
02:13:43
Speaker
Oh, yeah, he's wrestled a lot. When he messes with Devin Haney and his friends, he's lot of wrestling. And his nephew, he can actually wrestle. And um if anybody wants to look at MMA fighters fight, don't look at the James Toney and Randy Couture. Randy Couture a high-level wrestler.
02:13:57
Speaker
Look at Tim Sylvia versus
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02:13:59
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Ray Mercer. And so what Ray Mercer did to him in 15 seconds. so There would be more novelty, but a I guess it could definitely happen. and Shout out to my guy, Rodolfo Rivera Jr. I know he's on the same page, but I do think that what why Canelo versus Eubank makes sense is because Canelo, of course, he's primarily fought in Mexico and the U.S.,
02:14:21
Speaker
and this will be his chance in front of the UK audience. i'm thinking they can get 70,000, 80,000 more there for a contest between him and Eubank Jr. Just because the UK fans, I think they have the top fan base in boxing, personally speaking, and I think they will show up in a major way there as far as filling out the stadium or whatever it may be in terms of just getting the most amount of people out there. I think they have a top fan base in that regard. But Hey, we saw that Canelo Crawford brought 70,000 plus there for this contest. So that shows you, hey, there's interest there.
02:14:56
Speaker
So I think Canelo Eubank would do that or more over in the UK. So that's why that's one that could potentially come about. They feel that they're going to be spot Eubanks Ben.
02:15:09
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That a non-title play. I explained to our audience how that works. They got one big-ass stadium, and there's a waiting line for tickets to any event. So every event's going to be sold out.
02:15:22
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They got 90,000 seats that they can sell out, and the line is like, you know, it's like a million people deep just to get into events. So all those all those events are going to be sold out.
02:15:34
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You're going have motherfuckers in there singing Sweet Caroline. You might see about eight eight Mexican flags. You know what I'm saying? About eight. They're going to be singing the whole match.
02:15:48
Speaker
I think that factors in. And also, by the same token, here in the U.S., of course, we think about the places where we can get the most people, Michigan Stadium there in Ann Arbor, where the Michigan Wolverines play.
02:16:03
Speaker
That's like 106,000 or 7,000 that you go there. Dallas Cowboys Stadium, that's where we had some boxing events. Canelo fought Liam Smith, and they got... I want to say 52,000 plus in there against a British guy that nobody knew. You know what I'm saying? So I think you could get a lot of people there in a Cowboy Stadium, for instance. It's just going to depend on the right dance partner. You know i'm saying? Why don't he fight in Mexico? um That's another goddamn thing. He fought right here.
02:16:33
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he thought writer No, that's not the only time, but he started out in Mexico. But Ryder, they had 55,000 plus against Ryder, who is an unknown commodity or name there Mexico.
02:16:46
Speaker
I think Canelo can do even more depending on where he's at. And that was in like the Guadalajara, Jalisco area where he's from. If he fights in Mexico City, I'm sure they can get even more than that.
02:16:59
Speaker
you know That's what they should do. Go back home. Go back home and go do a fight over there. i don't care, man. i All y'all motherfuckers, y'all can go back there too. Go back there and watch the fight there. In the outside outside arena and outside arena And I hope like all
02:17:18
Speaker
I'm not forgiving these motherfuckers, man. They went too far, fam. I'm serious. i'm sorry well Canelo, he's fought... When he fought Kirkland, and I feel like there a little... I mean, that could be... People say whatever online, but when he fought Kirkland, they said that he couldn't train with Aaron Wolf, but that was at the Astros Stadium. Yeah, that's what happened.
02:17:40
Speaker
So he's definitely... You know, and I thought Colton's going knock his ass out. But that was definitely, you know, he fought a big crowd there. Crawford fought a big crowd um in in California when he fought Majumov outside. So we've had these, so some point of, ah you know, big giant crowds for boxing in America. um But it's just not like Wembley Stadium, you know. we We don't have the all hands on deck except for this Allegiant Stadium. When I saw that picture of the crowd, everybody at the stadium for the Canelo Crawford, I was like, thank you.
02:18:14
Speaker
Thank you, American fans. Thank you. But the biggest villain in that whole thing was that Allegiant does not allow bags inside of the stadium. So all the videos, people lined up to get their bags back.
02:18:26
Speaker
All the things, carry your purses. Carry your purses. Go back to the car. It was hilarious.
Cultural Unity and Sportsmanship in Boxing
02:18:33
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Oh, man. i believe the highest selling boxing event or the attended boxing event North America in the history was...
02:18:43
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um Chavez singer against Greg Hagen and I want to say it was like 106,000 or something like that. It was in that neighborhood and then we didn' Mexico to go or whatever. So that shows you the potential there that is there. You know what saying? I mean, they got venues like in South Africa and shit like that where people can go fight and and do that. You know what I'm saying? Like, just go and take that shit somewhere else.
02:19:05
Speaker
Fuck it. So first of all, I've i've got to say, Clever D, I was absolutely absolutely dying when I was watching the Instagram video of all these dudes carrying purses. And i just I just know what the conversation was like because I've been in in there before. When you get with your girl and she's like, take this back to the car, and you're like, motherfucker.
02:19:25
Speaker
Okay, fine. And then you look like a little punk like walking up. Now, it was worse than that, fam. I seen a dude put 40K up on Canelo, bro. Like, all the motherfuckers was, man, they was beten they was betting the house on Canelo.
02:19:39
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? Dudes was walking out of there mad as a motherfucker. You gotta be like, do make her take it to the car. Right. So there were some really funny moments before we sign off. We're about to sign off in a second, everybody. We thank you for tuning in. But there were some really funny moments that I want to get your thoughts on.
02:19:55
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Now, libertyerty you did say the Mexican ah um entrance for Crawford was more of a, you said that was more of like a tribute instead of an intimidation factor? Yeah, well, he knew the guy, the guy that sung song was his friend.
02:20:11
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that's the black community. He's Mexican. He's like, hey, you know, I like the song. want him to do this. and it's showing the Mexican fans that I have Mexican fans. I'm cool. It's not a black versus Mexican thing. And he's trying to prove that because as Papatrinho said, there's a lot of racism that has been happening in the last, you know, leading up to this fight. And he's like, I don't hate you guys. We're all people. So I'm having my friend who's Mexican singing this song and giving him opportunity. So shout out to Krupa for, you know, for doing that.
02:20:38
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Yeah, no, shout out. i was just confused because he came in. He had Tool first, which is like a crazy entrance for for Crawford. West Coast, West Coast. Okay, but Tool is like um like a hardcore like metal band, so I did not expect that at all from Crawford. So I was like, okay, that's really cool.
02:20:56
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um Dana White sitting ringside and Turkey on Sheik making him hold the belt, and he's like looking down the whole time like a scolded dog.
02:21:08
Speaker
y'all see that? What you think, bro? You know, old boy was probably backstage rubbing his feet down with lotion. Hey, man, go ahead. You remember, you know, turkey change outfits in the middle of the probably had one of them, you know what I'm saying, get get the sponge bath and rub down the back of his knee meat.
02:21:24
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The knee meat got rubbed down in the back of it. Yeah. Yeah, he said, make sure you get make sure you get that duck butter, too, because, you know, i got to be commando out here with this skirt on. You feel me? So, yeah. but Yeah, he running stuff.
02:21:36
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He running stuff. No. I promise you. We watched those people. Man, they were cycling people in and out of that seat and next to Turkey. Mr. Beast was like there for like eight. How the hell did he get a seat there?
02:21:48
Speaker
I want a seat there. Fuck Mr. Beast. That was crazy. Everybody had to go rub a rub a knee. I put it like this. it was very strategic for dan white to hold that belt because sulaiman of the wbc was basically not allowed or he says he wasn't allowed to get in the ring and dana white was the one who put that belt around terence crawford if you notice oh yeah like kind of like ufc fighters when you'll see fighters win is daniel white puts that belt around him yeah hey wanted that They wanted that big-ass WBC belt to be around him because he always goes out for Canelo and all these other WBC fights. Yeah, they made a custom one, too.
02:22:27
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They made a custom one and a ring. And Canelo and then Cooper gave Canelo his belts back after the fight because those are his belts. but But, you notice... They don't like to put that belt around Terrence Crawford.
02:22:42
Speaker
I would say that is something. But giving the belts back certainly is customary for the most part because they customize... But they said usually that it would be your... But Josh, they said usually it would be the team that gives it back. It wouldn't be the fighter themselves that would give it back after a win. I think he wanted to do it for respect right there to Crawford in that sense. yeah You know what? Crawford has been so gracious and so respectful this whole fucking time. Like... Yeah, so fuck it. I'm going to be disrespectful for him. Here, okay take these belts back with this ass whooping just gave you.
02:23:13
Speaker
huh Hold that. Hold that. know what I'm saying? But I was dying when I saw Dana White. I was dying. I couldn't believe it. yet it motive you He looks like a scolded dog. He was just like this.
02:23:24
Speaker
And then all the women. I'm going to need those women to stop yelling every five seconds so I can't watch the broadcast properly because these chinkas want to be out here tripping and yelling to the damn highest, hitting the top of their lungs like they know what they're even yelling about. What the hell are you yelling at?
02:23:44
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Craziness, man. And then Dave Chappelle with the with no sleeves on at the end, just going crazy for the Crawford win. I love that. That was great. It was great. All-around great weekend.
Podcast Closing and Viewer Engagement
02:23:57
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I've got to get out here because I've got finish packing for my trip tomorrow to go see Clubber D and the rest of my family and friends back in the DMV. Yes, sir. If you find yourself in D.C. this weekend, you hit us up. Josh, you might be around. Hit us up. I'll be in the bridge.
02:24:10
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I'm leaving on Friday morning. I won't be back for Sunday. How long have you been here? i'm here No, I'll be leaving back Monday. I'm just going to watch those ah those commanders get their butts whipped by my Raiders. I'll see what's up. but yeah I'm um um'm flying out to Houston on Friday morning. I'll probably be down in Stonebridge tomorrow night, but yeah next time we'll catch up for sure. Stonebridge, I know about that. Hey, come on. hey and we'll Yeah, hey, whoop we'll be there. Jamal Day for sure. Josh, let them know where they can find you eight at. Hey, at 86 Boxing, on pretty much everything for the most part. You look up 86 Boxing, you're going to see these colors right here, and you know you're in right place there. So appreciate you all for sure.
02:24:57
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And you got the Tiara Brown fight coming up, so safe travels. We're going to be there live. I might go live a little bit just to show what it's like out there in that environment, folks. So be expecting such, so.
02:25:08
Speaker
Yayo, where can they find you? man Y'all can find me at the nearest department store in the belt section. I'm looking for something fresh. I'm looking for something fresh to lay wear out. Y'all can find me at Papi Chuyayo. Listen, hey, don't come at me with that bullshit, because I love the sport, and we support all ethnicities of fighters. You know what I'm saying? but y'all got to start doing some respect, because I promise you, man, we could withdraw that support.
02:25:36
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and get to go on to work on y'all out here. put the respect out there. That's all we're asking for is respect. That's it. you i'm saying so if You know It's all love, but there's some lessons that come As long as you learn them, you don't have to get it again.
02:25:54
Speaker
That belt. Next time I want to see Poppy Toon Puppet out there with the belt. I need to see him with the belt. Clubber D, where can they find you at? ah You can find me at Clubber D on YouTube.
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