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Speaker: Hello and welcome to Fit For My Age, the health and wellbeing podcast from Abysida, where we don't tell you what to think, but we do hope to make you think. I am Michael Millward, the Managing Director of Abysida.
Speaker: Today, i am learning about frequency healing from Michael Upstone, the author of the groundbreaking frequency healing book series on Amazon and the president of Keep Health Research.
Speaker: Michael, although some people call him Mike, is based in Austria. Austria is one of the few countries I feel that I have never yet visited. But if I do get the opportunity to visit, I will make use of my membership of the Ultimate Travel Club to arrange my travel. That is because as a member of the Ultimate Travel Club, I travel at trade prices on flights, trains, holidays, hotels, all sorts of travel-related purchases.
Speaker: You can do the same if you're a member of the Ultimate Travel Club, and to make that easy, I have added a link with a built-in discount to the description. Now that I have paid some bills, it is time to make an episode of Fit for My Age that will be well worth listening to, liking, downloading and subscribing to, and one that you will probably want to share with your friends, family and work colleagues as well.
Speaker: Now, hello Michael. Hi, Michael. Nice to meet you. It always feels strange when I say hello, Michael, and hello, Michael comes back. Yes, it's like an echo, isn't it? It is but it's good. We always like to promote Michael so at Abusida. But how is Austria today? It's warm and sunny, thank you. It can get unbelievably hot out here for weeks on end, but it's a very nice temperature today.
Speaker: Cool. It's a bit wet and windy here in in Yorkshire, but there's no such thing as bad weather, just poor clothing choices. Absolutely. Let's start by explaining a little bit about your journey to Austria and the story of the book. you know How did you end up doing what you're doing today?
Speaker: A combination of things, really. So the the first thing was a a fortuitous meeting with a businessman about 18 years ago who was describing how he was bent double with a back problem. It was in his office that we had the meeting and his secretary was there.
Speaker: He had to ask her to drive him to see a therapist on the south coast of England in order to deal with this back issue. And he was talking, it was like a little consciousness exploration exercise. He was talking about names that are much more ah well-known nowadays, Tesla and Reif and Reich and Lakovsky and people like that.
Speaker: I'd actually stumbled across some of these names. so But his secretary burst out laughing when she explained that he was brushed on the arm by this little device the size of a small mobile phone and invited to straighten up about eight minutes later.
Speaker: um And she howled with laughter, describing the astonished look on his face when he did, and he found that his pain was completely gone or significantly reduced after that short period of time. And that intrigued me so much I wanted to go and visit the therapist with these devices.
Speaker: I ended up buying one and getting the training with it, which was a very good move. And then I had this gadget in my pocket and I just went around helping as many people as I possibly could. And that really got me started on the whole journey.
Speaker: But prior to that, I'd been a ah great traveler anyway since my early 20s. So I've been to about 50 countries, I think, approximately. um spent months to years abroad, ah though my the place in my heart is is England, is Britain.
Speaker: And um I know intend to come back one day, but I stay out here because I've got a ah young daughter out here now. but I've got so many questions coming out of what you've said there. It's difficult not to be fascinated when you say, well, there's small device.
Speaker: What did the small device do? um it first of all connected to the skin through electrodes and it was putting in electrical frequencies does this mean like when you say electrodes does this mean like needles or nice flat metallic plates where the um this tingling sensation uh travels over the skin but also ultimately into the skin and so this uses specific frequencies that the body uses for its own communications and healing in fact, that stimulates very rapid healing responses. That's the the quick version of it.
Speaker: How it does it is also employing a biofeedback mechanism. So it modifies these specific frequencies that the body uses for these natural purposes and it tags them as a pain signal and that induces a response. So I always say this is like, you know, Laurel and Hardy. um they're involved in some construction and Stan Laurel has got a a plank over his shoulder and Ollie says Stan Lee and he turns around and gets whacked on the back of a head by it and so there's a natural reaction which is pain, um a bit of anger in that case, he might to jab him in the eye or something and then you get the other reaction coming in which is he's now upset and he jabs the other ones the other one in the eye. So it's eliciting specific responses from the body and that accelerates healing responses. It deals with pain issues, inflammation and all sorts of other things. And ultimately, the very high end equipment now is very highly evolved.
Speaker: And ah that actually leads to impacts on things like scarring. So we call this regeneration, where the body is able to go back to its original template and undo scarring, but also undo things like chronic illnesses. however The sickness and injury element of it is just a tiny fraction of what's possible because frequencies are being used by Olympic gold winning athletes, by top business people to enhance their performance in decision making, creativity, memory, to deal with stress and things like that. um And sports people are using them as well.
Speaker: Wow. I was not expecting you to describe something quite so scientific with a slapstick type analogy. Yes. The problem is that the science can disappear into its own vacuum of vocabulary and things like that, and then people just can't relate to it. So I think it's very important to create analogies that people can readily um identify with, actually, and understand. Yes.
Speaker: I agree with you. ye Using that analogy might actually be a metaphor. I always get mixed up, but it doesn't matter. What we're talking about then is that ah our body has frequencies going through it.
Speaker: And what you're talking about with these with this technology is the realignment of the frequencies. Yes. Yes. the main The main reasons why um a body won't heal seem to be a lack of energy or a lack of coherence or effective communications to distribute that energy and to apply it appropriately. And of course we we all know about the energetic systems of the body in terms of the the central nervous system running on energy. But that's intimately connected as well to the endocrine system or the hormonal or humoral system in triggering chemical responses, which means that after a ah treatment with one of these devices, the the body will produce, the brain will typically produce neuropeptides, which is its own natural healing pharmacy. So by the time the treatment is done, however long it may take, and that's a ah variable according to the body, um the healing responses can go on for many hours after each treatment.
Speaker: I can see how, given the experience that you had, and then seeing the results of this type of treatment, why you would want to get involved.
Speaker: And...
Speaker: how to explain it from my perspective is like I have so many questions. I'm not quite sure which one to ask you first. But from what you're saying, my understanding would be that someone has an injury, for example, or develops an illness. And the body's natural reaction to that is to to fight an infection or to repair the injury.
Speaker: Correct. Absolutely. But what you're saying is that that doesn't always work as perfectly or as well as it might do. Yes.
Speaker: So an injury can take a long time to recover from or something like a back pain, is recurring chronic back pain is just there and is debilitating for the person who's suffering.
Speaker: Absolutely. And one of the reasons for that is that the brain, if my understanding is correct, is almost in an overload type situation. Yeah. Yes. Everything has a finite amount of energy.
Speaker: In that situation, the body will operate according to the conservation of energy principle and prioritize its particular tasks. So the the result is that some the the priorities are dealt with, but other things will take longer or be delayed or suspended altogether. And really this accounts for the fact that, you know, when there's some kind of a bug going around, some people might not be affected at all.
Speaker: Although they're in exactly the same environment, perhaps a tight environment like a home or an office. But in other situations, ah they will get you know a little sniffle, a kind of bug for a couple of days, but other people will suffer ah much more severely with that issue. And and if they're already ill with a um ah chronic illness or... um um yeah so if if they are um already suffering from something like a chronic illness or they are much older, for example, then they can have a much more severe um response lasting for a longer time or suffer something that may never go away, like a chronic illness, because it's lost its ability to maintain its own homeostasis, which is a daout dynamic state of um equilibrium, which applies to its ah responses to injuries and illnesses. So the more we can enhance this
Speaker: natural process driven by energy and information, the quicker and earlier the body can respond to those issues coming in. So this is why we can have very different responses to the same kind of um stimuli depending on the the age we are.
Speaker: That's always the comment that comes from the doctor. He looks at you and goes, well, of course, it's your age. And then he'll look at you again and go, it's our age. And you're thinking, i'm I don't feel as old as I am type of stuff. But that's one of the impacts of just getting older. of Illnesses, injuries take longer to recover from because your body isn't as fit as it used to be.
Speaker: But are you saying in there that this type of treatment can actually um help deal with the issues of aging or even reverse aging?
Speaker: To a certain extent, yes, absolutely. So one of the applications for these kinds of devices is cosmetology. So there are cosmetologists in London and there are obviously various approaches. One is using surgery and injecting things into the skin, but other approaches...
Speaker: yeah But what is cosmetology? That is non-invasive facelifts and wrinkle removal. home So we can treat the skin with electrical stimulators and with other options like lasers, which also are energetic approaches, putting light into the body.
Speaker: And in fact, with the kind of technologies that I use, we can have visible impacts on wrinkles, in an hour. So typically we would treat one side of the face for about 25 minutes using the electrical adaptive stimulator, the electrical devices and a laser for say 25 minutes and we would say look in the mirror.
Speaker: Now I've only done this once and um i try and be quite nuanced with what I say because we have this very very complex very variable factor which is the individuality of the human body. its life experiences, its diet, um etc.
Speaker: But at the time I did this, the the lady gave a little gasp, bordering on a shriek, saying, well, the wrinkles on that side of my face are half the size or less of the wrinkles on the other side of the face, which I hadn't yet treated. And then, of course, she was quite keen on getting the other side of the face done. But that's how dramatic these technologies can be, because ultimately,
Speaker: Our bodies are built from energy and from energetic templates. And if we think about it, that makes sense. We all come from a single fertilized cell and that has to have the entire template within it for building an entire complex multi-organed body from it.
Speaker: Yeah. The amazing human body all from one cell. Right. Okay. I am sure that you will have encountered people who like, I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a moment who will say this isn't conventional medicine. yeah So it's just, know, it's one of those sorts of things, a fatty thing. It's, know,
Speaker: dealing with whatever, you know all sorts of negative comments. I'm sure you've heard it all. Absolutely. So what sort of real world results can you sort of say, this is what this has happened with people that have come to meet you? Already, you know the cosmetology um type of type of thing that you've said, but what sort of impact does it have on chronic illnesses, on back pain, those sorts of things?
Speaker: First of all, I love that. I think that's a really um powerful attribute. So, and we need to address it actually. So the first thing is that a lot of these technologies are at least 40 to 50 years old and we aggregate the clinical evidence in terms of hundreds of thousands of studies. on our website so people can look that up. So things like soft lasers for example, um a few doctors will have heard of them but they won't know much about them because their education and their training is very much um based on pharmaceuticals and on chemicals.
Speaker: Nevertheless we have 40 to 50 years worth of studies, tens of thousands of studies, put on our website from all around the world, which are ah very much demonstrative of similar results from different places with respect to not just healing effects and pain effects and inflammation effects, but regeneration effects, which is undoing illnesses, injuries, or even emotional traumas, as if they never happened in the first place.
Speaker: But this is also a prime driver why we um collect x-rays of things like bone regeneration after osteomyelitis, images, time-stamped images in the books and things like that as well, so that people can see the dramatic effects and read about them across a whole range of different applications. And they're deliberately front-loaded into the books as well, so people can just see the read sample on Amazon and get an idea of how dramatically well this proves ah this works. But one of the interesting attributes for me is that... um
Speaker: You know, skepticism is a good thing, but the the devices don't care what you're thinking. They just have effectively what I would term an energetic conversation with the body. So I love dealing with skeptics, actually. um I think it's a great attribute.
Speaker: And um there's nothing like looking at the expression on someone's face, which is absolute amazement after they've been treated for a few minutes. And um and they have a significant improvement in their condition.
Speaker: And that's normally what happens. It's not what always happens. It depends on the situation. But I would say in my experience, 85 to 95% of the situation ah even with a a chronic issue, chronic back issue, post-operative issue or a chronic illness, we can make a significant impact for people within um anywhere between half an hour and an hour and sometimes a lot less. So if I can give you an example, I was working with a a private group in the UK just a couple of weeks ago now.
Speaker: The organiser came to me and said he'd had chronic back pain for 20 years or something, it had been operated on. asked him, as always, give your pain number out 10.
Speaker: 10 being the maximum pain you can imagine and zero being no pain and he said 10 and after about 15-20 minutes I turned round and asked him the same question and he said zero um and the look on his face when I asked him to do the recalibration was great because People forget about it. They start to relax under these treatments. And it's only when you bring that back um into the front of their consciousness to say, you know, do you have ah any pain anywhere in your body now that you get this amazed catch up with what's actually happened with the body and this shock and surprise um on their face, which is a great thing to see.
Speaker: Yes, I can imagine. We all like to make an impact, but is this the sort of thing that people do once and then don't need to do again? Or is it the sort of treatment that you have to go back for on a regular basis?
Speaker: It depends on the situation. So let's talk now about the you know the kind of results bordering on the miraculous effectively. That was one. i I guess that was a good example. Another example was a guy I treated in Liverpool a few years ago.
Speaker: He didn't tell me what the problem was, but he got very excited when I was brushing his arm with this device and... and What are we doing there? It sounds like a very strange thing, but the the nerves are built on patterns and they're reflected all over the body. And very often when dealing with the back, with sciatica, for example, where you get referred like pains down the backside or the leg, um there's no obvious place to treat. But that nerve inflammation is going to be reflected in the arm.
Speaker: So I treated him and found this standout nerve inflammation going on under the skin for about eight minutes. He got very excited. And then i and and he was touching his leg and I said, you know, just sit still, let me finish.
Speaker: And I said, okay, what was going on there? And he said, well, um I could feel my leg properly again. Okay, what happened to your leg? um I broke my back.
Speaker: When did you break your back? um I think he said 28 years ago, it might have been 26. And I said, okay, so how was your leg feeling? And he said, well, numb and tingly.
Speaker: And I said, do you mean to tell me that this effect has gone in less than 10 minutes? And he said, yes. And he said, I can't wait to go home and jump in the bath because every time I've jumped in the bath for the last 28 years or so, I've had a powerful electric shock from my leg.
Speaker: And I reckon now my leg leg feels okay, um I won't have that anymore. And very often you meet people and you you don't see them again, but I was in touch with a friend of his who introduced us several years later, and he confirmed that that was a permanent effect.
Speaker: So um I've had similar things from strokes where um a woman was in a wheelchair. She was really quite young, I think in her early to mid-50s and had been a very good sportswoman. And after about a 40-minute treatment, um the first thing she did was stand up and balance on what had been her bad leg. Now, that doesn't always happen.
Speaker: um And sometimes the symptoms will start to come back, and this is what we call a treatment interval. So this is the body having a good response to the initial treatment, but then indicating that it needs a program. It needs a few more um steps of treatment to actually complete the process.
Speaker: um And we need to differentiate between... injuries in this situation and especially chronic illnesses because chronic illnesses really need whole system treatments using things that we call protocols and effectively a program over a period of typically weeks to months and sometimes it needs to be backed up by a holistic strategy looking at things like ah toxic events or deficiencies and things like that as well.
Speaker: Okay. Sounds fascinating. It makes me wonder, ah could you use this as sort like a prevention as well? So you have regular, I'm going to say realignment of the frequencies. Would that help to prevent um injuries and and illnesses?
Speaker: Yes, absolutely. And I i think um the prevention would be especially interesting in a sports context. This is one thing I've been studying recently, which is, you know, why don't more of the top sports teams employ these technologies technologies for performance enhancement? and Because, you know, you would anticipate that um a better sense of balance quicker reactions, a better anticipation to situations would actually lead to fewer injuries.
Speaker: um But a lot of the studies have been predicated on poor application of these technologies because They're using a technology in a way that is applying standardized doses, which misunderstands the fundamental biology of the situation, which is that everybody's body is different and everybody's body is different every day. So really, this is now into the the nuance of the...
Speaker: elite, if you like, energy healers, because this is a very rapidly growing area, but until you have broad and deep experience across a number of different modalities, then very often people are missing this key principle. So um indeed it can raise performance. And in fact, let me share another little strange ah impact on me from what was known as a ah first generation skanar. So this was developed from the Russian space program. They realized that you can't take pills and potions in space because everyone ends up drinking the water.
Speaker: And so to take out that level of contamination requires bigger, heavier equipment, which is naturally much more expensive when it comes to space, as well as a pharmacy. So um they put ah approximately $5 billion dollars worth of research into this area in the 1980s, and over a thousand of their top doctors, biophysicists and engineers for over a decade.
Speaker: So 10,000 manios of elite um research and development. And a certain number of devices came out of this process. And one is called the Scanner.
Speaker: And, um excuse me, the um the the s SCANAR has these kind of effects on people in terms of creating very rapid responses. One morning I was actually up in new Yorkshire working with a friend of mine who ah I'd been in the army with.
Speaker: And we ended up working quite hard and I was quite sleep deprived and I had to be up early the next morning. And they used this little scanner on specific points on my face, which connect into the trigeminal nerve, which goes into the brain. So I was stimulating the brain.
Speaker: And I noticed effects very, very quickly, literally within about 30 seconds to a minute. It was like someone one turning a dimmer switch. So not like a switch on the wall, click, click. It was more like vop half a second. And what I noticed was, oh, my eyes had been dry and now they weren't.
Speaker: My peripheral vision was wider. My depth perspective was better. um everything was clearer, the colours were more vibrant, um this slight headache and fogginess had gone. So these are very typical sort of energy effects that we don't necessarily notice until we experience these kinds of technologies. So they can be used to enhance ah all manner of our performance actually.
Speaker: Is there any anyone that you wouldn't use one of these treatments with? um We always have contraindications with these technologies and that means that we have areas where we um would absolutely never treat, given a certain technology.
Speaker: um or they may be relative contraindications, which is that we need to pay a little bit bit more care and attention than normal. So with um electrical devices and pacemakers, for example, it's not necessarily a an absolute contraindication, but in that case, we're definitely not going to be treating um directly over the pacemaker in that case. And this is the benefit of understanding the quite strange way in many ways that the body works and these technologies work in that we can then treat indirectly, such as brushing an arm for a back complaint, for example.
Speaker: Mm-hmm. I started by saying I've got lots of questions. Every answer you give me is fascinating. And that it sort of adds to the questions that I have, which is frustrating because we've come to the end of our time, Michael.
Speaker: And yeah we will later we will come back and look at these in in more detail. But for to today, it has been fascinating. And I really do appreciate your time. Thank you very much.
Speaker: It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you very much for your questions. And I would be delighted to come back on and answer any more questions that you've got. Thank you. Thanks very much.
Speaker: I am Michael Millward, and I have been having a conversation with Michael Upstone, the author of the groundbreaking Frequency Healing book series on Amazon and president of Keep Health Research.
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