Celebrating Episode 10
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Hello, hello, hello. Morning, morning. As they say in the Bahamas, made it to episode 10. Episode 10, I feel like it should be a big episode. This is Little Woods Outdoors, Whit Bell speaking. I got my
Podcast Growth & Future Hopes
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boy, Jake. I got Drew Hampton on. We're looking for a good episode tonight. Drew, episode 10. It means a lot to us. I mean, we, episode, I mean you, episode one, everybody's like, ah.
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You probably ain't gonna make it to the next one. Episode two, they're like, okay, these guys got something going. About episode 10, they're like, my gosh, did they do anything besides podcasts at this point? I mean, we done okay. It took a while, but.
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Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah, it's weird to think that we're at episode Tien. I feel like we just
Fatherhood & Diaper Mishaps
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started yesterday, and I feel like we've gotten so much better from the end, talking with a couple of guests here recently and kind of finishing up the 2022 season, going into 2023.
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You know, just a lot of life changing experiences for us and, uh, in our families and our hunting lives and our personal lives. It's, uh, it's weird to think that we've reached this point, but I'm excited. I mean, I'm excited for episode 20 now or X episode 25 or episode 50. Uh, I feel like it's, it's just going by so quickly already. And, uh, I'm really looking forward to it. I don't know about y'all. Yeah, it's, uh, it was pretty wild.
00:01:58
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I listen to a lot of other podcasts and it's like, they're on episode 872. I'm like, did I listen? 870 hours worth of podcasts, but I did.
00:02:13
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You know, we get to 870. I guarantee you we're going to be, Jake's going to be about four kids deep by that one. No, I'm not. Yeah, that first one, all it did was just spur you on just to be practicing some more. I know it did. Talking about changing diapers and all what would you say earlier? You said you changed about 40 today. You've been home about an hour and a half. I mean, my gosh.
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I've changed a bunch. Well, what's my favorite part is when you change a diaper and you get that clean diaper tucked up under there and he's kicking, you know, and you think, oh, he's good to go. And then he just rips that pee and that pee flies just over your left shoulder, you know, wherever it lands. I don't even know. Just throw a towel down and start scooting it around. But it's one less diaper I don't change.
00:03:11
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Makes you thankful for wood floors on it. Oh, yeah. It saved that one diaper for ya. That pamper's
Ohio Incident & Environmental Concerns
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build just went down for sure. I haven't figured out, you know, I was telling somebody that I was like, yeah, he'll pee on you while you're changing him or he'll pee out of a diaper. But, you know, I was like, is it operator error? Am I putting it on wrong? Or he just, you know, has the force with him when it goes the time to pee? I don't know.
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He's got it down to a science. Must be that Martin trait. I don't think I ever could do that. I could never pee out of that diaper. I mean, I don't remember what I did, but. That's awesome. I just can't wait to teach him how to pee outside, you know.
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I feel like that's what every man is waiting to do for his son. Let's just go outside. Let's get on the front porch. Just let it go. Man, I love doing it to this day. There's too much information. There's very little areas around this house that you're just strolling around. You just got to go. That's what you were taught to do. I mean, that's what I was taught to do.
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Drew grew up in the city around the highway. They seen him squatting back there? They still ain't caught me yet. That's why in the city they might come build those privacy fences. You know what I'm talking about? Drew Hampton, old hammer right there in the backyard. We were worried about him. Just popping the squat.
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That's pretty good. You know, episode 10, I feel like it. I didn't go let Drew get in on that. I just leave it at it. Let it go. He just over there humming at it. It's just, hmm, hmm, hmm. Sounds like one of my kundos wanting something. He just sort of, hmm, hmm. No, episode 10, you know, we thought we'd have something great for you on that, but you know, we're starting with something good.
00:05:21
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talking crap on Drew. So I feel like that's the best episode we could probably start with. Uh,
Mardi Gras & Cultural Experiences
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you know, a couple of things trying to relate to the national news and all little bit of things going on Ukraine. Uh, you know, but there's probably something bigger going on up in Ohio, Ohio. It's kind of, it's kind of getting shoved under the rug, but I mean, that's, I don't know a ton about it. Y'all been watching any of that or what?
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You ever watched a little bit, I have a friend that's with Union Pacific and he's been posting a lot about it. It's a bad ordeal up there. I don't know. I don't know how they have finally got that under control or if they actually have. I know it was burning pretty good for a while. All I know is if that train would have had a drilling rig or something oil fill related on it,
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They'd have been up there just, I mean, going nuts over it. Yeah. The next natural disaster. And I saw a funny thing on Facebook the other day and it's just a picture of the, you know, the U S with all the drainage, et cetera. I mean, the Mississippi river drains a lot of crap.
00:06:40
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I've caught catfish out of the Mississippi River thinking I was good, but now it's got all this stuff. I mean, you look at it, take a step back. That river that's way up in Ohio somehow makes its way down to the Mississippi. And I was like, oh yeah, we're catching these albino catfish. This one don't have an eye.
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All that, and I thought it was something cool and spectacular, but in all honesty, it's probably had something messed up going on with it. I mean, that's, that's abnormal. It is. Well, and I'm not sticking up for anything on the spill side of it, but here comes that oil field. No, it's not oil field. I mean, I could be, but you're talking.
00:07:34
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The people within a close radius, the people right there at ground zero for that instant have a major problem by the time it gets to the Gulf or anywhere, you know, halfway back up stream, you know, the dilution, the way it's diluted down, you know, surely it's not going to be a major, just a total loss of, you know, habitats or.
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wildlife or fish, you know, but there's billions of gallons. I mean, I don't know the number. We can probably Google it coming down. What do you think? Well, you know, it goes back to kind of what happened out there in the Gulf, you know, all of that millions and millions of oil that got spilt out into the ocean, you know, it's, it's, I don't know. I mean, it definitely, you know, affected the habitat, but I don't think it was to the point where,
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It absolutely just destroyed everything beyond repair. Uh, but you know, the Mississippi river, there's, there are a ton of rivers that just intertwine and connect to it. And, uh, there's no telling what comes in and out of that, you know, from the top of the, from where it starts all the way down into the Gulf. I can't imagine all the contamination and everything we put, but, but if you look at the big picture.
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You know, you got all the city runoffs and I mean, like I said, I'm not sticking up for it. I think it's a bad deal, but it's like there's certain places that, you know, there's just say a parking lot or a gas station when it rains, all that runs off somewhere to your local regional reservoir. You know, I mean, I don't know. I mean, it's crazy to think about when you really think about it. It's wild.
00:09:32
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You know, a great explanation of a really nasty place, runoff. Have y'all- India? Have y'all, no. Closer to home than that. Have y'all ever been to New Orleans during Mardi Gras? Let me tell you. No. Let me tell you. That's probably the nastiest place I've ever been in my entire life. And look, tomorrow, I'm pretty sure it's Fat Tuesday. I went to school at LSU. I know what time of the year it is.
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Everybody's getting these King cakes. You go down to New Orleans, you're there. One of those evenings that they're doing parades. That is the nastiest place
Crawfish Season Anticipation
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I've ever been in my entire life. Guaranteed. I mean, I lived in Lafayette for about a year when I worked off shore and, uh,
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It's a happening deal across
Southern Cuisine & Specialties
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that whole state. It's not just New Orleans, it's everywhere. Fat Tuesday's a holiday down there, if I remember right. Oh, yeah. Then we got Ash Wednesday. Take a little piece of Ash, dot your head. That just always reminded me of that Dave Chappelle skit that Ashy Larry character he had. I don't know why.
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Oh, me. I, I'm glad I'm not down there. I loved it. That was a great one-time experience, but I don't think I'll go back though. That's just not for me. It really isn't. Gordon just went down there. I know. My sister. He called me the other day and I was like asking me where to go and Baton Rouge. I'm like, Ooh.
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That's not really a town, man. You got to go to Lafayette. They, they have big party scene on that. Really. Lafayette's Mardi Gras party Monday through Friday, seven days a week. Yeah. Lafayette. There's a few little year round towns down there. Um, the only, only thing I take as a benefit from all of that is crawfish season started up. I mean, that means it's about time you get some mud bugs.
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They're hiring cats back right now, but at some point we'll be able to eat them. So we'll have to do us a cookout. I told Gordon, I said, man, I said go when you're in New Orleans. He was asking me, I said, y'all just need to go to Lafayette and just go down there and hit all the, all the eating spots up. Cause everywhere down there is slapping hard when it comes to food. And I said, if you go to New Orleans though, you need to go hit up Felix down there and get some turtle soup.
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Let me tell you. That's right there by the race track, isn't it? Uh, I think so. Yeah. What
Fishing & Childhood Memories
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is that? Uh, what's the track down there? Fair, not the fairgrounds. It's a fairgrounds, isn't it? Is it? Yeah. I can't remember that track down there, but all I know is it's hard to beat some good turtle soup.
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I mean, how many times you had it once? Uh, while I was down there in New Orleans. Yeah. No, I've had it twice. I had it from two different places. Was the second as good as the first or what? Well, the first time I had it was at a place called commander's palace in the garden district. And it was good. Uh,
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Me and Jess was seeing how tough those hand grenades were that trip. And, uh, I lost. Yeah. They got about a four hour delay. Oh, about killed us. And, uh, second time we went to that Felix and it was, it was hidden.
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That's awesome. Yeah. The, the turtle soup. I feel like it's probably going to be a location on the kind of delicacy. Well, the only thing better than that I've had was, uh, I don't know what the Cajun or, uh, whatever term it is for is, uh, the pork belly po' boys. I love a good po' boy. Well, the pork belly.
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the way they prepared it kind of moistened up that bread, which I don't, I like po' boys, but they're not my favorite because the bread sometimes a little overwhelming, but they slapped that gravy or whatever they call it on there and that pork belly. So yeah, pork belly is pretty good. It's kind of, I guess the only times I've had it just reminds me for people that don't know what it is kind of more, it's almost pork rind like just,
00:14:32
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It's just fried fat. I mean, that's just straight up all it was. I like it. Yeah. Fried fat squares and it's good. I mean, it, it don't help your cholesterol. None. I know that much, but you know, touching back on that turtle suit. I mean, I went golfing Sunday and I seen the turtle sitting on this rock.
00:14:59
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He probably ain't a candidate for that. You think, I mean, or is there different varieties of turtles you use for this? Do you know? I don't know. Uh, the stuff I see on TV, they always get them big snapping turtles. Uh, and I don't, I don't think they're endangered, but I don't think you can just go get 15 of them a day or nothing like that. So I don't know. I've caught some soft shell turtles out there catfish in the river and I mean,
00:15:28
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They look edible, I don't know. You try to grab a hold of them bad boys, their neck's about three times their body length. They'll try to snap your finger off, dude. I only mess with them no more. I mean, it can't be any worse than the crow, right? No, no, there's no way. You try and take one of them off the hook and it's like level 15 extraction. Oh yeah, it ain't possible, ain't nothing compared to them snapping turtles and soft shells.
00:15:59
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They just they bend or something their neck. I ain't lying. I was catching them down there Here's what happened We were catching the firehouse and catfish down on this sandbar. I guess I don't know if is the Season or weather changed then I was down there. I was like man. I keep catching these turtles and uh
00:16:23
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It's catching them soft shells. And I was trying to keep my lure, or not my lure, but my hook and all that stuff on the leader. And I was trying, you know, I'd pin them down about mid back. And them little jokers, man, they just, they got some reach on them when it comes to that neck.
00:16:45
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Well, thank you in advance for everybody that's listening right now. They going to be just trying to just extract that hook. I guarantee you. No, don't sleep on us. Don't sleep on a soft shell turtle. They, they probably don't have the G force as a big snapper, but they're quick and they can get, I mean, they can just go right up straight over there, you know, 12 o'clock on you. That's funny though. I, you know, I,
00:17:13
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I see my dogs all the time out there trying to hit that pond bank just in time to catch one of them little red-ear sliders. Yeah, that old soft shell might give
Wildlife Encounters & Humor
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them a run for their money for sure. Oh, them red-ears ain't got nothing on them. They looking like a nose ring hanging off their nose. Well, they say they won't let go till the thunders. That's what I always told growing up. Yeah, that's that snapping turtle saying, isn't it?
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You remember them catfish ponds down there? They used to have all them turtle traps on them. Oh yeah. I always wondered how many was down in there. To this day, I know they had probably, they probably had two traps for each pond, didn't they? At least. Little backstory, our family, me and Jacob, they used to do fish farming. So as kids, we'd spend a lot of time either
00:18:11
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A, riding around chasing birds off, or B, trying to help them catch the fish. I feel like I remember seeing so many turtle traps. And now you look on fish farms, there ain't that many out there anymore. I don't know if they found a solution to that problem or what, but.
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I don't know, we was talking about sunburns last episode. One of the first horrible sunburns I got was saying in catfish out there sitting on that tractor, dragging that net up and just getting roasted. I didn't even know it. And then I'm not a noodler. I don't noodle catfish, but I guess I was noodling at a young age and I didn't even know it whenever they're like, Hey, you want to go help them boys together? Some eggs, some catfish eggs. I'm like, well, I guess, I mean,
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So you go out to these catfish ponds and they're all about, I don't know what were they, about four or five foot deep. And they got these little buoys, I mean, hundreds of buoys around the edge of them. And you got to, you get down in there, you have this little basket that floated behind you, tied around your waist. You go that, you pick you a buoy that you want to start at and you pick them buoys, go to them,
00:19:29
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And the guy trained him and he's like, he's like, get up there and tap on that can. There's about a three foot by two foot can, maybe about a foot and a half tall off the bottom with a hole in it. And I get up there. He's like, sometimes there's a catfish in there. Sometimes they're not. I'm like, okay. Well, I don't know. I was probably 14. I don't remember how old I was. Feeling tough. Oh yeah. I'm like, I'm going to go get some eggs.
00:19:58
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And, uh, if, if you feel it, if you feel something bump the side of that can, when you reach down there and pick it up, he's like, lift it up, you know, shake it up and down a couple of times. I think Bart, old Bart was still on the farm. And I mean, he was a big old boy. So I don't think he was scared of anything. So he's like, just lift that can up and shake it a couple of times. And then that fish will swim out of that hole and you reach there and grab the mix. I'm like, all right, well.
00:20:27
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I did a few of them. No problem reaching there. You float them little eggs out and you put them in your basket behind you. Well, then I got to one. I'm like, all right, I felt it bump. I felt it bump. Shook the can. I felt it. I don't even know how big these catfish were. 10, 12 pounds, maybe.
00:20:47
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I don't know what kind of catfish they were. And, uh, I mean, I don't, and it's swim out between my legs. I'm like, all right, safe to go. I'd go in there and get them eggs. Well, then he didn't tell me about the ones that don't tap the side. I'll get to them. I'll lift this thing up. I don't feel enough. I stick my hand in there and I'm talking, but bam, just, I mean,
00:21:14
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Like Mike Tyson grabbed ahold of your hand. Just, I mean, they just ball up on you. And, uh, about ever 20, you get hammered like that. And I'm like, can you wear a glove? You know, Oh, you can't feel the eggs. If you got a glove, I'm like, all right, you know, my knuckles are bleeding pond one. I'm, I'm bleeding out, but I did that. I did that a few summers. Uh, I never got any better at it.
00:21:45
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Just had to get it. That's funny. That's funny. Brought that up. I mean, I, I don't know nothing about catfish. When you were walking around those ponds, I mean, that's what I was asking. There was a bunch of turtle traps on there to go on with it. Turtle traps. There wasn't no snake traps. So that was weird. You know, the snakes are just out there just floating by. It's like, yeah, I mean, I'll scare snakes in. I ain't too bad now, but, uh,
00:22:14
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It wasn't in like saying, and there'd be snakes all around. It's waiting on that free meal. Oh man. I can't, I, I guess I was just a little braver then. Nowadays I'd be like, I don't know if I'm going to get that water. It'd be that, that pond water be like 90 degrees.
00:22:33
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I'll be the first one to say that I won't be sticking my hand in a can like that with a catfish. You know, the worst place I ever did that was over at the reservoir. They used to put them over there on that, uh, on the zero grade side of the reservoir bank over there. And, uh, those catfish ponds, the bottom was all level. They were all precision level. I guess levees, everything was the same.
00:22:56
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Reservoir? I was walking through. There's sticks poking me in the leg. I mean, it's like a crappie bed I'm waiting through. It was not fun. Just waiting to just go down. Hey, Drew knows about that. He can't even walk in and wait. Yeah, no. You take me out of the reservoir right now. I'm done. I better boat in there and just take two steps out. That's all I need.
00:23:20
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But my favorite thing about catfish, you know, farming, which I mean, as a helper was chasing the birds off, you know. Oh, you don't have a driver's license hopping this pickup truck and just drive around all these. I don't even know how many there were, but you take a full day out there chasing birds off. Take this AR. It's fully loaded. Here's about three clips to go with you. Yeah. Banana clips for everything.
00:23:50
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Just don't scare them off. Yeah. Just don't worry if there's anybody on the other side of the reservoir or the pond, just start shooting. You might get it hard. Yeah, it was, uh, it was wild. But anyway, turtle soup. I don't know what they do or where they get it or what kind they are, but I'll eat it every time.
00:24:13
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Yeah, I couldn't do the snakes, uh, you know, lifting up those livid gates in the rice fields that you see a big old ball of cotton mouse just rolling around. That scarred me for life. Well, that's during COVID whenever there wasn't nothing to do. I really got into the herpetology stuff, like trying to figure out what snake I need to break my
Training Hunting Dogs: Stories & Gauntlets
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leg over. Cause I'm in the woods all the time with these dogs.
00:24:40
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And there's a lot of water sometimes, you know, it might be a rattlesnake. I just need, I just need to know if I see a snake while I'm crossing a creek. If I need to snap through my legs, ankles, or hamstrings to get away from it, or if it's just a water snake. I see people now, I mean, it's February 20th.
00:25:05
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And it's 70 degrees outside and I see people posting pictures. Watch out on this pretty day. There's snakes out and I, you know, that's the only thing about spring. I don't really enjoy at all. Snakes are coming back out. You know, I'm ready for the grass to grow back. Cause my yard is a mud hole just probably like everybody else's. I can't even do anything in the yard without rutting it up. Just praying the long guy don't kill me when he's bumping over.
00:25:34
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Well, that's me. So I might be upset about that, but you know, you're talking about all these different things and, and trivial things you have to go through, but that brings me back to coon hunting. I mean, you, you mentioned it already. When I was in Louisiana, I stayed in Northwest Louisiana, Brown Shreveport Benton area. And when I was in vet school for an internship for a month from February to March and we coon hunted.
00:26:06
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probably five nights a week while I was there. And we would hunt these little bows and draws and stuff. And I wasn't worried about snakes. I did have a bad skunk experience while I was there, but I really wasn't worried about them either. We had hogs everywhere. I mean, hogs were a thing. He had hog dogs. I wouldn't worry about the hogs either. Dude, I am so glad we live just north enough for now till global warming gets us, I guess.
00:26:34
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for alligators to stay their butts down south because that was my main thing. I'd hear Hank over there running a trail. You know, Jacob, there's chop, chop, chop, chop, chop. He get quiet. And that's the first thing I'd think about. He done got got, but we were very fortunate. It never happened. But all them old timers, they said that happened all the time. It does happen. I listen to a lot of hound podcasts on these guys. I mean, they don't worry about it, but it happens. I get snatched up.
00:27:07
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That's not for me. They're talking about gators being all the way up in Northeast Arkansas. I don't think I've ever seen one up that far before. Maybe that chemical spill will push them back south. Force them down the other way. If that works, I'm going to spill some chemical around here. I'm just kidding. I ain't going to do that. Please, nobody comes to censor me. This podcast is not going to make it on Spotify now.
00:27:38
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I mean, hopefully we don't get any around here. When I was a kid, my favorite thing to see, talking about all these big fish and everything, my grandmother's got, there's a little river right beside where we grew up and it is called the White River near Dez Arc. Some people might know it, just a little bit north of Stuttgart, Arkansas. Man, that river apparently used to be warm and it used to house a bunch of different kinds of big old fish in it.
00:28:08
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Now you get in it. It's about the coldest thing I ever been in my entire life. Grandmother said when it was little, when she was little, they'd go fishing for gar. And she's got these scales from these alligator gar. You ever seen that Jake? I guarantee you, I don't even know a good measurement for it. It's probably two inch in diameter or better just to scale off that thing. Oh, them things get huge.
00:28:36
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And that was like their big thing to catch. They'd carry, I think little baseball bats out there to hit them or a 22 to shoot them. Uh, and they catch them from the bank. That was what they liked to do. They'd catch the, uh, bunch of gar balls. That was the thing. So, Oh, those, those eat good too, man. And gar sandwiches or whatever they make down laugh yet, man. They don't waste a gar and they're good.
00:29:07
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Yeah. You used to have a family friend that would always tell us if you ever, you know, caught a guard to hang onto it and he'll take it. He make all kinds of stuff with it, but you know, I, I've seen in the museum over here, desert, uh, like 125 pound guard, I mean, probably 14, 15 foot long. It's unbelievable how big they can get actually. Um, yeah. And then we get in that river and swim around. Yeah. Let's just smart in it.
00:29:37
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You ever seen those videos from the Trinity River where they both fish down there? Then things are about the size of alligator. You talking about down in Louisiana? Uh, it might be Louisiana or Texas or both. I don't remember where exactly. I watched some YouTubes on it one time. No, thank you. I do know that, um, back towards my later years of vet school and my first years of being a doctor up here, I was,
00:30:07
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I used to go crappie fishing with my boy Cade over there. They had a place in Sam Rayburn and this kind of gets back on alligators though. We were out fishing one day and we pulled up in this cove and I swear to you to this day, I've never in my life, it don't matter if it was captive or alive. It don't matter if Nat Geo put the world's biggest alligators. I guarantee you these two alligators I seen in this cove there in Sam Rayburn,
00:30:36
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We're over 13 foot and they were massive, massive. And, and little to think me and him and everybody else were swimming off their dock, probably 300 yards down the way. I just don't swim at night. That's all I gotta tell you. Don't fly drone over that in the daylight. It's like them short videos. What, uh, we've been doing with them dogs. You've been running the gauntlet or you've been training that pup.
00:31:08
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Yeah. Uh, lately the, the dog's been, I ain't going to say they're being lazy because that's probably me that's been lazy, but, uh, recently kind of my biggest thing that, uh, kind of occupying my time is it's February. Deer season's over for most unless you're still bow hunting. I think that goes for a little bit longer, but, uh, our main thing is.
00:31:33
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Kinda trying to knock down on some of the predators for the turkeys around here, especially where I live. I, I've got a pretty good spot that I'm trying to manage behind the house for, um, it's not going to be a true Turkey spot now.
00:31:50
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But I think it could be a potential for a few years down the road, maybe on the kids, if I ever have kids or if Boone ever wants to come turkey hunting. I feel like that would be kind of what I'm managing it for right now. We've been catching raccoons. I've been shooting coyotes. Uh, we shot those Bobcats that day.
00:32:08
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I mean, we helped, uh, and we just trying to keep some of the numbers down there. And recently I've been using live traps instead of like the regular dog proofs that I typically use. And the main reason, cause I got that little putt from Hank that has got to see a raccoon. I mean, he just needs to, um, I think, let's see, is it two days ago, I got to run the gauntlet.
00:32:38
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I ain't going to go into a lot of description of what the gauntlet is because I am a doctor for animals. And so we're going to just leave it at that. But a gauntlet, if anybody's ever played Call of Duty, kind of knows what it is. It's mono E mono. You got a, it's a see who comes out alive kind of situation. And, uh, the pups been, he's been pretty interested. Uh, we had a good training opportunity the other day and, and he really liked it. Uh,
00:33:07
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He started to kind of show a little aggression towards it. So, which he's starting to be that way about his food with other dogs too. So I don't, I don't think I can really like tone that down any, but, um, that's just the red bone in him.
00:33:24
Speaker
Yeah, you're probably right. He really does. He really did enjoy it. I think he's out of anything though, the live trap. And I think people are like, Oh, especially these young dogs. And this is just me opinion. I mean, just from what I've trained dogs wise, I feel like if anything, when I'm catching these coons alive and these traps,
00:33:47
Speaker
The biggest limiting factor that's kind of, kind of almost to some extent scares these dogs is that metal cage, man. I, I feel like once, once that raccoon gets out of that metal cage, he's, I mean, he, he feels like he could just jump over the moon, outrun it. I mean, he probably could outrun it, Lord willing. Um, but he just thinks he can handle it fine, but that metal cage just puts a fear factor for some reason.
00:34:17
Speaker
And I, I just, I just trapped one. Finally, I've had a, the longest drought I've ever had trying to catch a live raccoon, but I just, uh, showed my little pup his first raccoon, uh, two days ago. And he had a good reaction. He, he wasn't worried about that trap. He was just going wild. And my GP Rebo was going wild and.
00:34:44
Speaker
They got a good training experience. Got, uh, that scent fresh on their mind and I got to run him up a tree and I just really want to see his reaction, how he was going to, he's, he's kind of a timid dog, which I'm not a big fan of, but he saw the coming out of his shell. And, uh, that's why I wanted to let him get up close and personal and, you know,
00:35:12
Speaker
but it bumped him on the nose a couple of times. Did you have any kind of like gauntlet action? Was there any gauntlet action? I mean, it was kind of gauntlet-ly. That's a word. But no, he hopped on the first tree he got to and it was, he got out of Dodge quick. That's probably smart for sure. All right, to some extent,
00:35:42
Speaker
Of my three dogs, I've got to be real careful how I train on this puppy because my, my adult male dog knows what he's doing, but he is, as soon as that coon hits the ground, it's his and ain't no other dogs. So I got to be careful with him. Like I want him to teach him, but at the same time, it's like.
00:36:04
Speaker
I don't want him to teach him all the bad habits that he learned, but a lot of it was because I just hunted him so, so low his whole life. That's probably my fault, but I mean.
00:36:18
Speaker
They say a, they say young dog will pick up a bad habit faster enough, pick up a good one. But like you said, he's been hunting by himself so long and he's had so many that have been his that, you know, it's understandable in my opinion, but I mean,
00:36:38
Speaker
training them pups is a, I mean, sometimes that's a two person job. You know, you gotta have somebody helping hold dogs and trying to let the, let the coon loose. And I mean, it gets wild there. If you're by yourself real quick, I, I had that cage of mine cut scratch up my hand. Pretty good. I got homeless. I told you, I said, Oh, that cage that had nothing on it because it, I came back bleeding. You had a recent tetanus shot or what?
00:37:09
Speaker
I mean, it's, it looks fine today. Throw some dirt in it. I hit it with that, with that, uh, Dawn dish. So, you know, let it get down in there and eat. Yeah. In all honesty, I mean, I'm not an environmentalist or nothing, but I think that probably would have helped up there in Ohio too. Oh yeah. But now I've been, uh, I've been doing a lot of pup training. My pup judo, he, uh,
00:37:39
Speaker
Before I show him that coon, the three days prior to that, he went out hunting on his own a little bit, struck a couple tracks, whether they were deer or skunks or who knows what they were. He's out there running around making some noise and I'm fine with that. So he's showing me pretty good progression. He's kind of coming out of his shell a little bit and
00:38:05
Speaker
You know, you know, my, and I'm glad it's a training opportunity because I get so much crap for this gauntlet being ran to my yard. My wife
Hunting Dog Training Advice
00:38:16
Speaker
thinks that for the 45 minutes of hounds and I've got a border collie and I've got a Labrador retriever. And you would think that I got a pack of five hound dogs. Cause it's so loud at my house, all five of them.
00:38:34
Speaker
after it. I get a little bit of crap over it. I mean, she's not a fan at all. She hates the gauntlet. Oh yeah. Well, it sounded like it was my pup. He's loud. He's got a high pitch ball with the squeal mixed in it. It's very loud. So I bet, you know, the neighboring
00:39:01
Speaker
houses around me, we're probably like, what is going on over there? Yeah, you're not city like Drew, but you're pretty close, aren't you? Well, I'm in town, but out of town. He still shoots firework or what? I can, uh, I can cut the dogs loose here and not be too worried. My question is, do you have a stop light in your, in your town there? Oh no.
00:39:29
Speaker
Not close. There's about $4 general though. One every quarter mile. Yeah. But, uh, we went last night, I guess it was last night or maybe the night before. And me and the pup was up kind of high on the property line and my Jip Rebo, she was down low and she sounded off like she was treated on something. And I knew it was probably something on the ground, but
00:39:58
Speaker
I never, you never know with her. So I was like, all right, let me go see what it is. And I walked around the corner on the little full water trail. And, uh, judo was right there with me and he took off. I'm like, uh, maybe there's something over here. Well, then I heard something over my right shoulder running past me. I look over and there's a skunk. I mean, knocking grass down. Oh my God.
00:40:25
Speaker
And the only thing that kept a dog from getting sprayed, the wind was in, I'd say my favor because I couldn't smell where he had went. And, uh, I was hollering and snatching them up, trying to tell him to let's go this way because that's not something I want to deal with right now. That could have been bad. Yeah. I mean, he was four feet from me. Just tried it right past while, right where I was walking.
00:40:55
Speaker
Ooh. He was full plumage too, boy. He was black and white as they get. Just like them spoonbills, baby. Oh yeah, he looked like one too. Tails hiked up, boy, he's ready. Mm, I'm glad it hasn't happened. You know, but- It's gonna happen. And I think, you know, something you taught me the other day that I feel like
00:41:23
Speaker
You know, if anybody on here is thinking about it, get a coonhound. I mean, this is something that it makes a lot of sense. I'm not a, I watched a video today of a canine tracking dog and they've got this sin on the ground. It's, it's like concrete and they've got this wet line on the ground. I mean, we could have smelt this sin and they've got these little treats on it. Have you ever seen those kind of videos? Jake or drew, were they trying to train this dog? He's got to walk this scent line.
00:41:53
Speaker
Y'all seen that? I don't know if I've seen it. I've seen some of that training where they do that with the treats, but I don't know about the, just a straight up drip. This one had it. I, I don't know what it was some police department training a dog on scent. I mean that, that dog, he, they didn't start him early enough if he needed him a one foot swath of liquid on the ground, but I, some of them start late. I mean.
00:42:22
Speaker
I feel like I could learn a new trait right now and I'm old. So, but the other day he was kind of talking to me, Jake was, he, he's a big and, and a lot of y'all kind of will take this effect. He loves a Coonhound and he's listened to a ton of real good information. I'd assume it's good information. It's here to say expert, good Coonhound opinions.
00:42:49
Speaker
And the other day I had the certain scenario where I, it was a great night to go run a coon out. I, on the way there, almost hit two on the highway. I was like, Oh my gosh, they're moving. I get to where, get to our farm. I'm going down by our Lake, you know, a watering spot. Like that's, that's where a raccoon should be anyways. This raccoon is standing in the high in the road. I'm like, Oh my gosh, that's a fresh scent.
00:43:18
Speaker
I drive up as fast as I can, the dogs see him. It's not like it's a mystery game when I let them out. They, for some reason, my dumb self, I might've had a beer. I don't know. I had the back window wide open and these dogs bail out, right? One of them had a collar on, one didn't. They go off through the briar thicket, they get treed up out there. I don't see anything in it.
00:43:47
Speaker
How did they miss that hot trail? Now Jake, tell them what you told me. What's the best way to handle that? I know there's more than one person, like a hot trail sounds good, but it can be too hot. It can.
00:44:02
Speaker
Well, and this is coming from a guy I listened to on another podcast. It's really good for if you're into the hound scene and learn about dogs is a Heath Hyatt and he trains canines and from what he says is that scent is like a, you know, molecules or whatever. Well, when you got that hot scent,
00:44:32
Speaker
If you see a coon run across the road or a deer or whatever it is, it takes that scent a little bit of time. It also has a lot to do with the barometric pressure, if it's coming up or down, which way the wind or the scent's going from where it originates.
00:44:54
Speaker
but it takes that sin a little bit of time to get down on the ground and leave its little footprint or whatever you want to call it and his recommendation is and I've heard it from other guys too that's been running dogs a long time especially those guys out west where they're hunting I mean day old stuff you know from them
00:45:13
Speaker
them outlines and bobcats and all that dry ground stuff, but it takes that sin a little bit of time to get stuck on the ground or whatever leaf or whatever it's on. And they say, if you see that happen, you want, you know, run a track, drive past it or, or stop or wait 10, 15 minutes, let that settle out and then go back and cut your dogs on it. And, uh,
00:45:43
Speaker
I guess it increased your likelihood to strike that, that track, you know, and I've had it personally happen too. I've done the same thing. I've cut my dogs on a coon. It ran across right in front of the ranger. And same thing. They just, they're running, they smell it on everything. You're they're stirring it up. You're stirring it up and they just don't know which way to go. You know, uh, my wife's been with me a couple of times and we've had the same thing happen. One time it happened in the middle of the summer, which.
00:46:12
Speaker
The dogs were already out of the vehicle, so I couldn't stop them from running too fast. And, uh, my wife was like, Oh my gosh, they don't know what they're after. They stink. They suck. They're not good. Coon house. I'm like, man, I just got to figure out what the problem is. But it makes sense. I mean, when it's hot like that, you would think it would take longer for it to settle. Um, all.
00:46:37
Speaker
Like you said, the molecules or whatever moving quicker, everything's spreading around. Um, then when it gets cold, that's why I feel like I have the most success after either during a really light sprinkle of rain. It's like it pushes things down. Don't you think that kind of helps to some extent? Well, I mean, yeah, anything, anything where it's going to help you. Uh, I know.
00:47:07
Speaker
Like, and I'm, I'm sure all this changes from the like sun heat, like sun, like what do you call it? UV rays are the worst thing for a scent track. It's the hardest time for a dog to get on something because that just eats that scent away from what I understand.
00:47:27
Speaker
So the same scenario in the mid summer day, it, that track's not going to be there as long versus at night. The pressure's pushing scent down. That's like a coon that's light up or, you know, whatever your squirrel or whatever's in the tree and that sense coming down versus the sun. It's just eating that smooth up. So do y'all think that.
00:47:55
Speaker
you know, terrain type of weather. Does that play into a factor like how you would train a dog here in Arkansas compared to when you train in Wyoming or whatever the case may be? I literally, I literally was just thinking that. I mean, cause you go out to the mountains. Sorry, Jake. I mean, cut you off.
00:48:16
Speaker
But you got to the mountains and the big thing me and Sam kind of dealt with that I was foreign to, and a lot of people might be, when you go hunt things in the mountain and the wind matters so much in the mornings, that wind's pushing one way down the mountain. And then the afternoon's about right when it gets to warming up, it starts pushing up it. So our whole goal was to try to be either above or below
00:48:47
Speaker
what we were trying to kill, you know, during the day. So I feel like at some point, I feel like maybe in the mornings, still pushing it down. Maybe you cut the dogs on the bottom side of the mountain. Is that wrong to think about or what? I don't know. I listened to a deer hunting podcast here not too long ago. I was talking about how these deer like to get elevation. If they get spooked or, uh,
00:49:16
Speaker
injured or if you shoot a... I think it's when everybody's helping a buddy track a hurt deer. And that's why it's stuck with me. But they say they go up because they can smell the rising scent. They feel safer at higher elevation. But I mean, we've all seen deer run down to the creek too, all the way be laid up dead in a creek or a small river or something.
00:49:46
Speaker
I mean, I don't know a hundred percent, but back to talking about all them different areas. Uh, you listen, these guys that hunt these competition hunts that, I mean, they're hunting for a hundred thousand, you know, they're hunting for big money all over, all over the country. Excuse me.
00:50:08
Speaker
These guys are sending their dogs to somebody different regions. Guys from Louisiana are sending their dogs to Ohio, Michigan. Those guys are sending their dogs out east of the mountains.
00:50:24
Speaker
They're putting those dogs in every scenario they can, because when it comes to a big money hunt or a regional, a dog's going to hunt different. You know, if you hunt in the swamps of Louisiana every weekend, a dog that goes up and hunts small patch woods on farmland up north, you know, they're going to have a trouble.
00:50:42
Speaker
They may have a trip, have trouble figuring that out versus taking a dog from the North down South. It's never had to chase a coon or a, or whatever through a swamp. Right. And there's guys that do that all the time, missing these dogs all over the country. And I mean, that's just trying to help their, their odds at having a more rounded dog. It makes sense, you know, from what I've listened to and I mean,
00:51:13
Speaker
You got a dog that hunts farm edges, rice fields, bean fields, to go in and hunting big mountain timbers out east. I mean, it's going to be a different ball game for them.
Shed Hunting & Wildlife Management
00:51:27
Speaker
kind of touch on when, my dad used to just beat my head that when is an important factor in anything you do hunt wise. I mean, deer especially. Duck, you know, how you set up your Fred. Elk hunting, you know, it's amazing how sensitive smell is to these animals, but to get on the coon side of things, I'm kind of a novice when it comes to this. I'm not real familiar. I don't have any dogs, unfortunately, but
00:51:55
Speaker
I'm just going to ask you guys this. You know, a coon's a coon, I guess, in a certain sense. But, you know, is there a difference between a northern coon and a southern coon or an eastern coon compared to a western coon? Like, do you think that there are different scents? There are different. I mean, I know we can play the weather factor, too. You know, we've got a lot of humidity down south, whereas it's not so humid. It's dry air through a windy up north. Just kind of wonder if there's really a difference with that.
00:52:24
Speaker
I mean, there might be I know there's they're harvesting raccoons up north that are like bear cubs. They're huge. So, I mean. You would think they would have more scent, put off more smell, I don't know, I guess. I mean, this time of year, they're starting to to rut around, you know, it's they're getting wild season, so they're going to put off different scent this time of year. I don't know. I mean, I mean, you might be on to something there.
00:52:54
Speaker
Yeah, I just didn't know. I mean, obviously, like I said, you know, a whitetail deer is a whitetail deer wearing elks and elk and raccoons or raccoon or whatever, but, you know, there's just something different about like the humidity smell of a buck rutting, you know, down here south and I've got the, I had the opportunity to hunt up north and
00:53:16
Speaker
I mean, you could see it, but the winter time, it's a lot colder up there. You really don't get that smell. It's just real strong wind. And I don't know if that kind of played the same factor, you know, and how that factors into your training as a, as a pup and everything. I personally think that, uh, the main, and this is just for my personal experience and opinion for sure, but.
00:53:38
Speaker
The first year that I was training on Hank and Hank's killed, he's treated a bunch of coons, a bunch for me, a bunch for me. I could take him to night. He'd probably find me something, but hundreds. I'm too lazy. The first year that I trained him, it was one of the, well, we've had dry winters ever since, but it was one of the driest falls and winters that I've ever tried to hunt a raccoon. I mean,
00:54:06
Speaker
To this day, I feel like we were going into January and it was still just was leaves were just as dry as they've ever been. And we killed a bunch of raccoons that next year. It was halfway wet. I was down in Louisiana. It was swampy terrain.
00:54:21
Speaker
He made me look like a freaking hero just because he had to work so hard that first year on that dry scent. I feel like I don't think it, I personally don't think it matters so much where you're located. Like you were saying, Jay, I don't think it matters much. I just think it was the difficulty and, uh, getting a dog to, you know, I really think it all that it boils down to. If the dog knows the scent that it's looking for, it's going to find it. It don't matter where it's at.
00:54:51
Speaker
I, that's what I think it really comes to, but they got to overcome obstacles. If a dog's not used to waiting chest, deep water, you know, for 200 yards versus, or running up a say 1500 foot elevation, you know, that's going to be, yeah, no, I think, I mean, they're different on that as far as yeah, the elevation thing, we won't be there because I won't walk up it with him. So.
00:55:15
Speaker
I ain't gotta worry about that. I will tell you, I've got a picture of it today. He's got half his body in the water and half of it on the side of a tree and there was a coon in it in Louisiana. I really thought I walked out there to be mad at him and there was a coon in the tree. Maybe he just bumped into it. I don't know. No, he knew it was there. I follow some guys that hunt down in Louisiana that hunt that kind of stuff every day.
00:55:44
Speaker
even a guy over in Georgia, was that the Okefenokee or whatever? I don't even know how they pronounce it, but they're just wading water, 24-7 down there, tree and raccoons. I know it word dog out though. Well, speaking of elevation, I don't have a whole lot, about 700 foot behind the house. And Reba just be lined up that thing the other night. So you can go up it pretty quick though?
00:56:10
Speaker
Oh yeah. And it's perfect habitat for Armadilla and this Armadilla is it the same one? No, this is not this one. The one right out here across the yard. That's the same one. I'm about ready to remove him from existence. But, uh, now this is a different one. I walked up this hill and the leaves are so thick. I get up there.
00:56:39
Speaker
I knew I could hear that arm deal making that little squeaking, kind of that little crunching noise, kind of like a catfish makes, you know, when you hold them out of the water. I could hear them like, oh man, I just walked up to this, kind of sweating. So I got her off of it, sent her on her way, made about three steps, and then I descended about a hundred foot elevation on my back, sliding down these leaves, and it's the old road bed up there, and then like right where it breaks off again.
00:57:09
Speaker
Slick. Oh, it was bad. I, I went down. I, uh, you know, and, and we've been doing a little bit of coon hunting now, which that adds another little bonus thing. If, if you pay attention while you're out there, coon hunting, you might stumble across something that's pretty cool this time of year. I know that you've, you've had a little success and what we're talking about is a little bit of shed hunting. I know.
00:57:32
Speaker
Uh, I wish I had a dog that would find one for me. I got a lab that she won't pick up a light or a dead dog, but man, if I could get her to pick up an antler, that would be pretty sweet. Well, my little pup judo.
00:57:49
Speaker
About four days ago, five days ago. He just, he's out here running loose. I got this baby. I can't go hit my normal coon hunting spot. So I've been sticking around here, just letting them run loose. And, uh, I look out on the porch. She's sitting there gnawing on something like, what's he got? I go out there. He's got that gun shed. Okay.
00:58:14
Speaker
It's pretty gnarly. It's not real big, but what was it? Six points. Yeah. One side. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. It had a little character on it. And then so then I'm fired up. I'm like, I went and started hiding it, you know, trying to get him on it. Just, you know, just like you said, a bonus type deal and.
00:58:36
Speaker
He'd go find it, but he likes it. No, he's like, I think he thinks he's a squirrel cause he likes to eat it. So he doesn't shoot off. It's a, it's a five point now cause he doesn't got that one, but, uh, so that was cool. And then today I'm checking a whale. We had a, a pipeline leak. So they said, go take some pictures if they can get in there. So I'm easing off out there and I pull up on location.
00:59:03
Speaker
Park, I get out and I walk about three steps. I'm like, look at there. There's a little five point shed had the whole split brow tines on him. So I'm, I got two so far and I ain't really been looking. I mean, I just was riding the ranger back behind the house and found one on the road. Uh, I'm glad I found it before I ran over it. That would have been pretty awful, but.
00:59:25
Speaker
Anytime you find a shed this time of year, it's pretty awesome. But me and the wife, especially the wife, she likes to watch these deer and see what else we got kind of back there. At one point, we had a bunch of coyotes on camera. Since then, they've been eliminated or scared, one of the two.
00:59:47
Speaker
We really, we've been trying to on the prettier days before stakes get real bad. We've been out looking for sheds, but last night swear to you had two eight points on camera, still just carrying it like crazy. So yeah, I don't know what affects them falling off earlier late. I mean, I guess there's a lot that comes in play. I don't know nothing about that, but
01:00:12
Speaker
It's got me fired up. I'm out here. I mean, I went, I took the dogs for a little rip this afternoon and.
01:00:19
Speaker
Uh, I was out there just like I was a metal detecting, you know, but just looking around, scanning, looking, looking for them sheds. You know, we have pretty decent deer, but, and, and me and the wife, we run the dogs today and we seen a spot had, it was a bunch of deer out in the field. We were like, I told her, I said, that'd be a great spot. We go out there and look for some sheds kind of, we saw where they ran back to in those woods. Like they're probably holding up there pretty good at this time of year. And.
01:00:47
Speaker
And it just gives us something kind of to bridge the gap to the next hunting experience. I mean,
Turkey Hunting Season Plans
01:00:53
Speaker
we're, we're all ready for Turkey season and we're all trying to plan our Turkey hunts.
01:01:00
Speaker
We're trying to. We're going to get on those turkey hunts. I feel like that episode's coming up pretty near though. I talked to T-bird today. I got some spotted out here on the military base and I think we're going to get our little permit so we can hunt out there. That would be so awesome. Y'all close enough to do it. I know. I mean, I don't know nothing about turkey hunt. I just, I'm fired up just just to go. I mean,
01:01:27
Speaker
Uh, he said, he said, I'll call you one up. I said, I'm at the shoot at 18 times, but that, I just hope that Benelli fires. Yeah. So I say, I was like, I don't even have it. I don't even have a Turkey choke. I'm fixing to have to put that, uh, you don't take that pattern master to get him.
01:01:48
Speaker
I mean, I can shoot ducks out there, out there where you... Where you don't want to go get them? Out there in the Olympic range. I'll get one out there. Hey, I've killed one with the modified in. I killed that big Tom over there in Kansas with a modified choke in. And I've seen you miss one with a modified in too, so I don't want to hear nothing. I'm a modified some.
01:02:15
Speaker
That's going to be a turkey season coming up. We've got plenty for that at starting March. I guess we're going to be March 18th. So our first hunt me and drew and, and my father-in-law and, and his dad, we're going to go to South Texas. We're going to South Texas to kill Rio this year. So, uh, we'll keep everybody kind of updated on that story and probably, you know, if we got decent service, I feel like we could probably.
01:02:43
Speaker
shoot a podcast down there and I, that would be awesome. Uh, hopefully the wife, she got a new camera for Christmas. Hopefully we can get a little video footage to where we can maybe add a little content to the Facebook page in terms of video. So we can put some, you know, a little bit of face to the name. I mean, we're, we're on here. What turtle man called it live action. We're going to get that live action, baby. Then he, he gives us one of them yells.
01:03:13
Speaker
Yeah, but I think, I think it'll be good. And, and you know, for tonight, episode 10, I, I can't think of no better way than to spend it with you three, you two guys here. I, I enjoyed it. Jake, keep growing that baby, man. Y'all are doing good. Month old today. Diaper expert right here. There you go. Drew.
01:03:42
Speaker
You got anything to leave us off with? No, I'm excited. We're getting close. We're, baseball season started too, so I'm excited. I'm ready, ready to go. Hey, before long, it's gonna be like one of those, like one of them fantasy football style podcasts on here. Drew be giving us all the stats of the baseball teams around, so y'all just hold, y'all hold still. Just hang on. I'll win you some money somehow.
01:04:09
Speaker
I do like some college baseball. Hey, it's the time of the year. It's a change. Everybody can feel it. The weather's getting nice. It's supposed to cool down a little bit, but not too bad this weekend. So the springtime here, what makes me mad is it's wet.
01:04:26
Speaker
And it's windy about every single day. I'm ready for it to just kind of make its mind up. Uh, Turkey season's coming up. Little woods outdoors is going to be killing turkeys this year. I guarantee you. I think the way that everybody's trips are lining up, not just mine, not Drew's, but my brother's, uh, T-bird Jacob, he's going to Kansas this year. He's already told me all about it. I feel like this is going to be the year he kills his first Turkey and enjoys it.
Episode 10 Wrap-Up
01:04:57
Speaker
just got to take our shotgun with me. Yeah. And we're not talking about beer. We ain't shotgunning beer out there. It's shotgun. Well, you know, my Kansas trips, they're always a blast. Uh, you know, we have a pretty good block party at least two nights of the week. So, you know, y'all only there for three.
01:05:21
Speaker
I know. We'd do it hard. I think that'll be good. We're going to try to get one up here pretty soon. We're going to get some of Jake's buddies on here. He's got some good guys. One's just a
01:05:38
Speaker
He actually makes duck calls. He's big into his business right now. We're going to try to get him to make a little time. And then he's got another buddy Tyler that Turkey hunts out to Kansas with him. Hopefully we can get him on. Oh yeah. Tyler's always got something going on, but I, in the meantime, everybody have a great rest of your week.
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Um, I, I can't thank you enough for listening to the podcast episode 10. Uh, this was, this is another one grandma really enjoyed it last time. This is, this is Momo worthy right here. She can listen to this one. There wasn't any bad cousins. So everybody have a great week. Uh, stay out of trouble and we'll see episode 11. Everybody have a great night.