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Little Woods Season 1: Episode 6- Round table with Drew, Whitt, Cole, Tyler, and Seth
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Weekly round table with Drew, Whitt, Cole, Tyler and Seth.
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Introduction and Technical Glitches
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all right we made it to episode six we got a good group of guys here tonight this is wit speaking little woods outdoors we're glad to be here the theme music's got our new uh a period today he's already judging the theme music so i think we're
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We're on a good track for the last episode. Brent hit us right in the face. So tonight we got Drew on. Hopefully Drew's audio stays on the whole time. Drew, why don't you go ahead and just say something for like three seconds. So we'll see if it's going to last. All right.
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Hey, I promise you I'm here adjusting and we lost him. That's like that. All right. So that was a good, the goods. That's awesome. All right. Then we got Cole. Cole's here tonight. He's watching for kids. So, uh, good luck with that. I'm glad to have you.
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supporting the uh you know married life and kid life which i don't you know teaburger knows a little bit about it jake's we'll get a whole education about it but we're here baby uh jake you all know they're in there i think i think i can see you a little bit oh yeah
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All right we're getting ready.
Guest Introductions and Audio Troubles
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Tyler Birdsfield finally had him back on. He's been waiting for it. He's in a closet so he gets good noise reduction. We're about to have a good episode and you already sound better Tyler. Nice to have you here brother. Glad to be here. And last but not least
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It's the man, the myth, the legend. We ain't even let up with that yet this year, have we? Seth Spate. Straight out of West Hickory Plains. He's there right now in his dojo. He's about ready to go. What do you know, Seth? Oh, I don't know anything. That's about the only place there is. There is no other place in Arkansas but West Hickory Plains, East Hickory Plains, or the OG Hickory Plains. That's right. That's right. Where's OG Central?
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That's original gangster. Yeah, that's the in the city limits. Which is 350 yards. Give or take. Well, we're glad to have you on here, Seth. I think as a friend. And just kind of giving everybody a little bit of background on Seth, his dad and my dad were great friends. I'm pretty sure Cole's dad knew him way back in the day. You know, this is.
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It's pretty awesome to have him on here because he's probably one of the most opinionated people that I know, which comes with its perks and its flaws at the same time because he's going to be the friend that tells you that something sucks right off the bat, which a lot of people need to hear.
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But at the same time, I mean, there ain't nobody else you can trust as good as this. So, uh, glad to have you on here. Seth, we're going to talk a little bit about, uh, we're going to talk a little bit about the week of hunting in general.
The Humorous Side of Hunting
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Um, and then we're going to get him on a couple of rants. I think it's going to be basically like angry Patrick on a hundred point three. Well, no, just stay away from.
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Stay away from the following subjects and you won't get me too fired up. We'll start with Sitka Gear, don't get me there. And then Short Guys Out West who backpack deer out over their shoulder. Those are my two bugaboos. That's great to know right off the front. Thanks for the heads up. But it looks like we got Drew here on the mic now. Drew, you here?
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I'm here, buddy. I'm here. I'm back, I promise. I think I've got it figured out a little bit. Hopefully, not gonna guarantee, but I'm here. I reserved you a room over at ASU to borrow their internet if you get lined up with them. At least they got fiber out there. Hey man, Aristotle slaps in desert. Don't ever doubt it. Well, about that.
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That's pretty awesome. But no, I, I think, uh, you know, looking back, we had Brent on this week and, and I don't think we really touched on much in terms of hunting, but, um, me and Seth were fortunate enough to get to go this morning and it was a beautiful, beautiful morning. Uh, we just, we just can't shoot at all. Not at all.
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Um, it was also part of the time that I kind of convinced him to come on. So, uh, it was, it was a business meeting in itself. So glad to have you on here. And, uh, you know, those ducks died. They didn't die in vain today. It was for a reason, but, uh, Jake, I know I'm going to ask you what you've been doing, but I already know your answer. It's done.
Critique of Modern Hunting Culture
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Oh man. Yeah. I've been, uh, messing with the dog. That's why I was kind of running behind tonight.
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Uh, my little pup was out there trying to bow up on something in the woods. I don't know what it was, but he didn't lock it. And, uh, I didn't do any duck hunting nights and buddies. They'd been, they'd been up in the expedition hole. We, uh, we had a couple, three weeks ago and they killed two limits of green heads out of there and been on them pretty good. But I haven't, I was going to sit in the deer stand this weekend and I just didn't happen.
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You know, as we start to get older and I, and I say older, I'm only 30, but, uh, as we start to get older, it gets real hard to get up in the mornings. I looked at my phone this morning, I got sass location. I don't know how I talked him into that. And I saw that he was actually driving down the road to come hunt with me this morning. I was like, dang, I got to get up. So I'm glad you're on your way. What time do you go in this morning?
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Oh, 4.30. I mean, I'm used to it. I get up at 4 a.m. the bulk of the year. I mean, it's not something that's new, except for it's a lot easier to get up at 4 a.m. when you're actually going to make money. And instead of just going to look at blue sky because waterfowl hunting in Arkansas
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It's basically, you can say about it about like you can the country of Afghanistan. It's bombed up and depleted. It's pretty awful these days. I'm going to be one of those idiots that always talks about how good it was in the good old days. It's bad when you can't even drive and you do better hunting than you do when you've got everything you need.
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But I know why we didn't do what we were missing this morning. We did not paint our faces. Yeah. I mean, we did not. I mean, I've yet to find the value in that.
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I mean, here we go. It's coming in hot. And I mean, it's just like, I've always questioned, I mean, I always wondered, was there something we're missing out on here? Or is it just like, we want it, we're kind of always wanted to wear makeup, but we weren't girls, so we didn't need to because it wasn't socially acceptable. Did we just put it on? I mean, I always, if I was going to wear face paint, I think I would just make like a bullseye on my face, you know? And
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or make me a sweet mustache with a hand with curlicues on it or, you know, something really cool. I don't want to do something. I mean, if you're going to go, go all in, damn it. I mean, don't be, I mean, don't be an idiot. I mean, just go all in. I mean, commit to it. And I mean, I always want to be one of those guys that wears it like walking in max prairie wings, just walking around like, oh man, look at me. I'm hard. I've been hiding from the big bad duck. And
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I'm like dude Rambo killed like how many terrorists and I mean he never went on face paint but I mean just you know if you're gonna go hard go hard in the paint and wear your skull site quit with the face paint. Is there is there a special kind of paint or is it just uh I don't really know I'm curious I don't know where these people order it from I mean I have so many questions about the whole face painting community
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And I mean, it's, it's kind of like, it's like, man, if you're, you know, you've got like $5,000 worth of camo gear on.
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Do you really need a $10 thing of grease paint to put on your face? I mean, you know, you're not going up and snatching somebody from behind with a piano wire here. I mean, you're not, you're not on seal team six, man. I mean, you're, you're duck hunting. I mean, get over it. Just don't stare straight up in the sky and, or wear a hat. Yeah. Wear a hat. I mean, you know, we're trying to look cool. We're trying to make little designs on your face, like making you try and look hard. Um, nobody, everybody knows, nobody cares.
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I always think they're, you know, getting ready to catch a punt or something or a kickoff or turn, you know. Yeah. I mean, shoot, man. I mean, it's just like, why? What is the point? I've just, you know, it's like, I get it, you know, people wear it playing football or baseball, it cuts down the glare, whatever, like that. But I mean, this is, this is a, I don't know. It's just like, man, it's like how you see these people and they got like, they spent, I call them the cart before the horse crew.
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they buy the high dollar camo, they go spend a grand on uninsulated waders. And, you know, they just do all this stuff. And then they turn around and it's just like, they got like a Remington 887 shotgun. I'm just like, where are you? I mean, why spend the money on the, on the look and not the tools?
Nostalgia and Changing Traditions
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I mean, you know, invest your money in your tools first, and then let the other stuff follow behind it. I mean,
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If wearing $5 craps your bag, baby, it's your bag. But I'll tell you on the, the, I will give you my one sickest story and I'll leave it to things. I know some of y'all probably wear it and it's quality stuff. I'm not saying it's not.
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but it doesn't really cater to the big boy community like me. It's more for the slander, Westy built type crowd. But my one story, I was talking to somebody and they're like, you just don't understand. It's quality gear, man. It's quality gear. I'm like, yeah, I get it. I get it. I'm not saying it's not. I'm like, but you could save yourself some money and go buy you some Gore-Tex, some mossy oak with Gore-Tex and you'd be just fine. You'd be okay.
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I mean, you know, you probably saved yourself a couple thousand dollars. That's just not as good. It's not as good. I was like, do you know who owns Sitka? And they were like, who? I said, Gore-Tex. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're getting on Sitka. No, I said, this is my one story. I said, this is my one story and I'm going to leave it at that. I told them, I said, you know, I said, Gore-Tex owns Sitka. And they looked at me like I had a hole in my head.
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I mean, they just could not believe it. I was like, you know, it's okay to go with the OG stuff, man, to wear something that'll cut you down a little bit. All right, Jake, go ahead. Hey, I got something that's sick and I don't know nothing about, and I got some pajama bottoms that I got from Walmart that I dare you to wear them when it's above about three degrees, because I don't know what it's made of, but you are not getting cold in that stuff. I wear it all the time.
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oh dude yeah the old the old i'm talking about the old waffle cone looking undies from walmart man you wear those things when it's above freezing they'll burn you down and bag your ashes i mean they are absolutely i mean it's just like i mean you know like my dad back today i mean he's rocking the stuff with the trap door on it man i mean he he nobody went harder in the paint than old pops and i mean he got cold easy too but he's uh you know i mean it's just like
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Where did we go wrong on all this stuff? I don't know. I mean, I really don't know. I think social media has ruined a lot of it, but it is what it is. I think a big thing you just touched on your pops. I mean, um, we hate, hate to have lost him here recently and he was such a good role model for your life. And, and he was kind of, he was part of that crowd that, you know, the good old days you talk about, he used to run up and down that cash river constantly. I mean,
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Yeah, yeah, and it's, I mean, you know, that's, I mean, that was the thing about, you know, the way dad always was. And he, you know, he told me, you know, as far as waterfowl hunting went, he went, him and Brent Calhoun's dad went up to the Bodeal Missouri years ago. I mean, they used to be pretty big into DU and everything. And they went on this guided hunt up there in Southeast Missouri. And
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they uh he told me he saw at the end this was like in 1991 where they just had just grain stockpiled up there i mean all these organizations that have all been for the outdoorsmen and all this kind of stuff they have gone to be about nothing but the money and they they've really trashed our flyway because i mean it used to be there's no reason with the advances we have the modern things we have now that
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Waterfowl hunting in Arkansas shouldn't be better than it was 30 years ago. It should not have gone the other way. And it's all due to people that are doing things.
00:13:29
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There's so it's too much self-serving and there's not as much. It's not anything for the environment. It's not anything for, you know, it's not anything for the outdoors. It's all, it's, it's the May generation. I mean, that's what's, that's what's trashing it. It's absolutely making it terrible. But anyhow, let's talk about something positive. Cause I could sit here and I could sit here and sit on this toilet all night long. No, I mean, and, and
00:13:55
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You know, all the negatives in terms of it. And big thing from today that I think we kind of got from it is, uh, you mentioned that the reason we didn't do good was because of the face paint. I'm going to step us back just a little bit, which what you're doing is giving us an excuse for being poor shots today. I mean, we were pretty bad shots, but pure sarcasm. But at the same time, we had a pretty good, there was quite a few waterfowl in the area. I mean,
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There's quite a few. I mean, it wasn't like it was, um, a lack of ducks. I mean, you had several come in there working, but, um, that little, I want to blame the little thin layer of possibly ice across there might could have been playing a little factor, but, um, it was a beautiful morning lot. We had a good South wind.
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Um, and we did talk a few in, so that was a good time and I enjoyed the heck out of it. You know, the, the minus face paint thing, that kind of gives me a good story. I wish John was back on here. I told you in the blind, Seth, but, um, I think basically my favorite thing that John has ever told me when we were duck hunting is we were sitting in some timber and we were.
The Joy and Challenges of Aging Hunters
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We're working them okay. And we're kind of just peeking up at them. I'm like, where they at, John? And then about that time, he just looks up and it wasn't like I was asking to look for them. I mean, it's like, hold on, wait till they're not right above us, flare them with your face, et cetera.
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About that time, I said, John, you ain't worried about your face shining on him? He said, no, man. I was just hitting him with the mojo. I just flashed in my face. I turned it once out of the other, once out of the other, just like a mojo. We were out there on that public ground. We had John's face as a mojo. So I thought that was hilarious. I, I told Seth about that out there. I said, Seth start flashing him like John. No, I couldn't get over that. The mojo flash, baby. Well, whatever he's doing is working because they beat on in the last couple of days.
00:16:01
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Yeah. He's still young enough that getting up at 1 a.m. stuff is still, that's still gravy to him. So congratulations to him. Because trust me, when you hit that wall, I'm telling you, you fall off of it big time. I mean, it is just, it's, it's, I just realized that I am too, I am too old and too obese to be doing that anymore. I'm already at risk of heart disease and I don't need to run it any higher. You don't get up with it and chase them or what?
00:16:29
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Yeah, just getting up there early in the morning going anymore is just, oh man, I don't know. 4.30 is hard enough. I mean, it's 1 a.m., that'll put you in early grade. But more power to people that can do it. Power to them. Another kind of funny thing that I know you've shared with us, you did used to chase some of them though. You weren't always this old.
00:16:58
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I don't know. Yeah. I mean, that, that was, that was always the game, man. I mean, it was fun. I mean, it was fun. You used to look forward to going and, you know, being in your old 1542 with the 25 short on it, trying to.
00:17:10
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trying to run a gun with the, with the big dogs over on the float road, man, that was always, that was always quite the, quite the experience. And I mean, it was like, it was almost like survival. Cause you're like, I know I'm in a boat that really doesn't need to be here, but so let's try not to get swamped today. I mean, that was, I mean, weekends were awesome. I mean, you would see some real, I mean, world-class I'm talking about, I mean, I've been honored to be around some world-class waterfowlers over there. I mean,
00:17:38
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I've had a couple run-ins back in the day with some fairly well-known people now. They get a little sideways with you. I love the, this is my spot crew. I'm like, well, I mean, sorry about your life, but I should have got out of bed 10 minutes earlier, bro.
00:18:04
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That was always, I mean, public land hunting used to be actually pretty enjoyable. I mean, when people always got along and, you know, you gang up with two or three other groups and you can bang it out and wear some ducks out and everybody happy and go on their way. But now it's just, everybody's so dang possessive about everything. And I mean, it just goes back to that. I mean, it's like, I'm pretty sure we all learn in kindergarten that it's the right thing to do to share. I mean, you know, not, uh, not, not be,
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You know, not being, you know, just, just don't be, don't be a dick. I mean, that's about the, I mean, that's about the long and short of it. I mean, just go have fun. And everybody tried to turn into a competition and, you know, last time I checked, they don't hand out a Super Bowl trophy for duck hunting. When do you think that changed? Because I've definitely seen it change over the years as well. When do you think you really saw that kind of develop into what it is now?
00:19:01
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You know, uh, I'm, I'm probably not the best person to ask cause I was very fortunate growing up. My dad would never let us go to the river, do any of that. Um, uh, Seth probably out of all of us would be the best one to ask on that. But I mean, it was probably in my kind of thoughts. It was probably mid 2000s duck commander risk. Huh? That's exactly what I was thinking. I mean, it was right in the fat of it. Right. When everybody started with that.
00:19:28
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So it's like my theory on it is it's yeah the duck commander thing I mean in respect to those guys, but people gotta understand they're hunting private land and You know, yeah, they wear them out. I mean they absolutely trash some ducks now, but they are Hunting a hundred percent private land and it all started It was all started by the time social media got big GPS is really
00:19:59
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GPS has really changed the game on that as far as people being able to just you know hallmark and shot chase a whole lot easier That changed a lot of it
00:20:11
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You know, it was, it was just, it was a popularity thing. I mean, that's really all it is. It's, it's, everybody saw it and everybody wanted to do it. And you know, I think it's helped from a commerce standpoint. I mean, look at all the stuff we have now that we didn't have access to. I mean, you know, good Lord, I mean, I'd have killed for a pair of banded waiters when I was 10 years old, instead of walking around neoprene, falling on my back, looking like a,
00:20:38
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Beached whale out there rolling around in the mud. I mean that would have been great, but I mean it's uh, you know that It's there's there's several things. I think there's I Don't know. It is just like I said, it's more it now it's more about the me generation Everybody just wants to get a picture of for a video show what they're out there and that's and that's cool I mean being the outdoors, but as long as people have respect for it. I don't have a problem with it, but it's uh, I
00:21:08
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You know, it's just you have a lot of disrespect now and you have a lot of people that are just, you know, just in it to pull the trigger and it never has been and never should be about that because I mean, you know.
00:21:21
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About that time you start having 15 shell limits on WMA's because you got a bunch of jack legs going down there sky busting. I mean, yeah, I'm sorry. You want to shoot three boxes of high dollar shot shells on wood ducks flying over. I mean, that's your bad, not mine. I mean, they could kind of cripple people like me who aren't the best shot in the world. You know, 15 shells, like, man, I am stringing a brother here.
00:21:46
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But anyway, that's what I was that's what I was gonna say is like the the pile pics was a big thing, you know social media everybody wanted to have them big pile pics and I think some people got in trouble over it too, but
00:22:01
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Yeah. I want you on that. I think it was about that, that time it just blew up. Yeah. Nobody, I mean, those people wouldn't, the only, man, the only pile, most of them dudes ever seen is a pile of ducky. I mean, they, they, they don't, they don't know what real is and they, uh, you know, it's so funny you get people out there and they're like, Oh man, there's 18 of us out here and we killed six greenheads this morning. I'm like,
00:22:27
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man that seems like a lot of effort for uh for minimal gain i mean but you know hey it is what it is to each and their own more power to them but uh
00:22:37
Speaker
That's a lot of face paint. Yeah, that is. That is. That's a lot of Remington 887 shotguns. Maybe a Versamax or two in there. I'll have to tell this story. I got a good buddy from Texas. He's great. I'm a great friend of mine. He came hunting with us and he was always saying, man, I got to get me one of these semi-automatic shotguns. We took him a few times and he had a blast and we were fortunate to have some good hunts with him.
00:23:02
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hey uh the next year he showed up he's a man said i'm keeping up with you bro keeping up and i never have been just like when i was you know i was shot at browning or winchester or something like that he was like man i got me a remington verse of max i just looked at him i was like huh well let's see how that works out and i mean
00:23:22
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First volley comes in that morning, he pulls the trigger once and jams, and I just looked over at him, kind of smiled. He said, don't you say an effing word. I don't want to hear about it. I think you went and traded it. I think you went and took a hit and traded it that afternoon, maybe. But it was, I mean, you know, to each and their own, but still, I'm just like, you know, a little research goes a long way. Yeah, they make a heck of a boat paddle. Yeah, they do. They do. I'm almost as good as a Mossberg. Yeah.
00:23:49
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I was eyeballing that Versa Max that I picked one up and I was like, good Lord, that joker's heavy. Oh yeah, man. I mean, it's basically an 1187 with a little bit different accents on it. You ever picked up an 1187, by gosh.
00:24:04
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I mean, you go have a workout in for you, those things. It's a heavy, I don't guess heavy shotgun ever picked up my life, but. It's all there for sure. Yeah. But I mean, it, I shoot a Jammin' Ellie, so I can't say much. Man, I bought my wife a little M2 Benelli 20 gauge.
00:24:24
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I'm gonna tell you, that gun is awesome. I mean, I've never been a big Benelli guy, just because I was like a gas gun. I mean, I'm not smart enough. I mean, a lot of times inertia guns, I mean, it's just, they're good. But man, I got hurt that gun. That thing doesn't, I bet it doesn't weigh two pounds. Doesn't feel like anyway. It's like holding a matchstick and that thing shoots beautiful. I mean, it's so smooth and I mean, I gotta give some props. Benelli, they got it right with that thing. Yeah, I've been up and down on mine, but
00:24:53
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Uh, here lately it's been doing good. I, I kind of let it get a little, a little too nasty and it, it don't act right when it does. I don't care what they say online. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that that last time you come down here, I guess it was last year we shot into that group of
00:25:11
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Some odd ducks, but anyways, long story short, I'm pretty sure half the time you didn't even have a shot going off, did you? It was broke down, looking for a pin or using a rice straw, trying to fix it. I couldn't remember what it was. The year before I was having issues, the firing pin was striking the primer or whatever on the shotgun shell and leaving a mark, but the shell wasn't going off. So I was like, well,
00:25:39
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I guess these are bad shells. There's half a box of three and a half inch shells over there in Oklahoma one day from where I couldn't figure it out. I get mad and I just jacked that shell out while the next one would fire. I'm like, how's one of these three every time not working right? Anyway, it came down, it was just dirty.
00:25:59
Speaker
Before I came hunting with y'all, I tore it down in about 1500 pieces, put it back together. I didn't put one of the springs in there or whatever it was in the right order. And that first round came through and I just went to pull the trigger and it was just all the way back no matter what. And then, yeah, I had to do a little field gunsmith action out there with a pitching wedge and some duct tape, make it work.
00:26:27
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Yeah, it still turned out to be a pretty good hunt. That was a few years ago. That's two years ago at least. Um, you know, drew, he, he shoots a Benelli. I think the only problem with his Benelli is the shells he's shooting out of it though. I mean, little rusty had to shake the rest off.
Memories vs. Trophies in Hunting
00:26:43
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I swear to y'all when he shows up and he said, I brought shells. I I'm like trying to, I'm trying to find another.
00:26:51
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Box of shells that I got buried down deep somewhere because he, he gets these rusty ones that I'm scared. They're just going to just pop right there beside me or I'm going to put him on the other end of the blind, something like that.
00:27:04
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Hey, they shot pretty straight this weekend when we went goose hunting. We ought to talk about that too. That was a pretty neat experience that you and I got to see. A young kid got to come out there with us. Clint cries young boy. He got to see something that a lot of people pay a lot of money to want to see. Wick calls it the white spin cycle.
00:27:28
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Uh, getting the chance to go out there and watch them geese just fly over the top of you and make so much noise, man. It was a, it was a great experience. Yeah, that, you know what?
00:27:41
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We, we kind of talked a little bit on that goose hunting earlier in the season about how special it is to get to experience certain things. And I know Seth stepped away for a second. When he gets back, he's probably going to be trashing on us about goose hunting because he don't like it. But, uh, the main thing to kind of take from it is this, this weekend. We, we had a pretty good morning there Saturday week.
00:28:07
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Friday afternoon, it was kind of a one-day scout kind of situation. I didn't know what it was going to do. It got cold that night. We had ice on the field. They were really wanting in. But we set up right beside it in some panel blinds, which early season when the ground's not frozen and you can't get plum out there and set up to be laid down on it, I don't care to lay down on mud ground. I've done that too many times. I'd rather panel blind from the edge. And Jacob, I mean, in all honesty,
00:28:38
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This is one of your kind of hunts. You could just barely push that decoy stick down in the ground. The ground was so solid. So it was pretty. Oh yeah. I don't know nothing about those. It was pretty nice. I, the, the specs wanted to work us early, but they had been hitting that ice field. Um, I call it an ice field. It had a little bit of ice on that on the little zero grade that we had with little water. And, um, and they're just, there was just a little bit of glare off of it or something that.
00:29:06
Speaker
This is my excuse. They flared. It might've been my calling. It might've been my decoys. I don't know what flared them, but they spent a majority of the morning flaring. And, but we did scratch out probably, I think we scratched out six or seven specs and, and we did have two very, very, very nice spins of whites. And, and if the shooting was a little bit better, Drew, uh, we would have killed a little more.
00:29:33
Speaker
Yeah, I think so. I talk about the young kid being out there and it kind of reminds me of myself being with my dad. I trade a hundred bad hunts just to have one hunt with a kid that gets to take his first bird or take his first deer or whatever it may be. That's something special that, like I said, I trade a lot of my individual hunts just to get to experience and be a part of.
00:30:00
Speaker
You know, it was a memorable one for me because, you know, like I said, I'd rather see the kids, the future and everything else, you know, just enjoy the outdoors like we do. And, you know, to get to spend that with this dad was pretty cool. Did they get that bird mounted? I seen y'all texting back and forth about getting that goose mounted. What was the deal on that?
00:30:24
Speaker
Man, we were harping on his daddy to get that bird mounted. And it's just funny, Clint and my older brother, they were really good friends and still are, I believe. And we were just giving him a hard time the whole time. You got to get that bird mounted for that boy. You got to get it mounted. And he was like, oh, I don't know. Maybe I'll think about it and this, that, and the other. But we were giving him a hard time there on Facebook to get that bird mounted for that kid.
00:30:52
Speaker
Yeah, we were kind of trying to spend some of Clint's money there. I hope he listens to this one day, but that was pretty funny. I think it all started down there with Mark on the other end. He's like, man, if, if, if that was my son, I'd mount that, that goose for him. They're like, what kind of goose is it? Like, Oh, it's a, just a juvie snow, but it looks really good. I love it. It's got a little gray on it, but that's pretty bird. I mean, it really was, I mean,
00:31:19
Speaker
It don't matter how old they are. If they've got good coloration, they're not beat up too bad. I mean, it would probably make a pretty good mount. I'm playing in by the end of the year to have a couple that I'd like to have done because hopefully at some point we have just a little bit of a lodge. I got some deer heads to hang up, boys.
00:31:45
Speaker
All right. So my thoughts on this are, I mean, that's awesome. I mean, you want to just look at it from a, you know, it's not about the trophy.
00:31:55
Speaker
Um, I mean, I got a hilarious story about this. I got a good friend of mine and wits. He, uh, he told me one time when he lived in a house in town, uh, he told me, he said, yeah, I said, one of these days, my dream is to build me a house out in the country. And he's in a deer club down in South Arkansas and you know how South Arkansas deer are. And he, uh, he said, it's my dream one day to just have a wall full of nothing but medium sized deer heads. And I said, uh, man,
00:32:24
Speaker
That's the kind of energy we need to bring to the world today. It ain't about the gross. It's about the memory. I always told that story and always had a lot of respect for that. It's ultimate not worried about anybody else thinks it's all about what you think. It's like any deer camp over here in my neck of the woods. You walk in there and it's just pine cone eaters left and right.
00:32:52
Speaker
I love it. I enjoy the stories behind it. You know, anything, you know, you, if you enjoy it and it's your first or, uh, your last Lord, well, it's not your last, but I mean, it's, it's, it's really is a blast to get to take some of those. I think, uh, you know, I started blaming myself a little bit because what out of our group, I mean, we had a,
00:33:19
Speaker
We had a sizable group, nine there, two blinds, and there was only one of us calling. I think more calling would have helped that day, Drew, a little bit, but at the same time, it was pretty still days. So I'll tell you that I only heard one group in that area that was shooting more than us, and they spend millions of dollars to get ducks in their area, so I ain't real jealous of that.
00:33:49
Speaker
It was a blast. It was a blast. Oh yeah. It makes that early wake up call just a little bit better. I think, you know.
00:33:57
Speaker
And in the end, even if we wouldn't have killed anything, I think we would have had a lot of fun out there and got to meet some new people. And that's what it's about. I think for me, it's not the fact that you take anything, but the fact that you go and enjoy it and spend time with your buddies or your family. And that's my favorite thing about the wars. Just remember kids, don't paint your face.
00:34:28
Speaker
What's your hunting status in Northwest Arkansas been up to? Man, not a lot. I've been busier this year than I have in a while. I got a small little pine cone eater buck that I shot and a doe. Duck season's been pretty bad. I think we came down and killed what, maybe 10.
00:34:49
Speaker
A weekend or so ago. But yeah, other than that, it's been pretty quiet. Yeah, I seen you went out east the other day. I was wondering if you did any deer hunting or just duck hunting or what? Yeah, just duck hunting. You know, I did. And in a lot of those trips, I got to go once with you. Y'all went.
00:35:12
Speaker
Y'all went several times. Five or six times, huh? Yeah, we went four or five times, yeah. Y'all was a good timing. I mean, like you guys said, the memories, that was better than the hunts for sure. You just didn't have me there running that skeet machine. That's what it was. Stepping on it. Stepping on it. You know, Tyler, I just want a little breakdown, because, you know, me and Seth kind of talk about it every once in a while. You hang out with my brother, Sam, okay?
00:35:39
Speaker
I got a brother that's pretty level, mellow, you know, just average guy. And then I got Sam, okay? He's just a goofy rascal. Ain't he sad? I mean, is there any other way to put it? Oh man, I ain't gonna dog my boy. I mean, he's the most chilled out, doesn't let it get to him. He does not let anything bother him. He's kind of,
00:36:09
Speaker
I don't know. I've always really admired that about him. I mean, I think he's called me on the phone and I think all we've said back and forth to each other for the first five minutes of the conversation is boy before the conversation.
00:36:26
Speaker
I got a story on that. Last time I was down there, I took my dogs up to Whit to get vaccinations and all that stuff while I was down. And I was gonna drive my truck and he's like, I'll just follow you. And he's like, no, he said, just, he said, load the dogs up in my truck. We'll go down to the Little Woods Animal Hospital. I said, well, I said, Reba don't ride inside the truck very good. She's a maniac inside the truck. He's like, no, she'll be all right. I'm like, no, she ain't gonna be all right.
00:36:56
Speaker
Anyway, so I load Judo and Reba and then we get his dog, Ann, up in the front seat. Three red, three red bones in this truck. We don't even get down with driveway and Reba just starts treeing in the back seat. I'm like, Oh my God. This is dude. I was so mad. That whole ride is about a 25 minute ride. Sam's like, Oh, she'll be quiet in a minute. I'm like, I don't think she's going to be quiet in a minute. He's like, no, she'll be all right. He's like,
00:37:25
Speaker
It's like you just got to ignore it or just, it just didn't bother me. I was, I mean, I was mad as can be and Ruby just back there. Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, every breath.
00:37:37
Speaker
Yeah, and honestly, that's the good thing about Sam, man. He is even kiln as they come. And going on these hunting trips with him, it's kind of needed because I'm so just go mode all the time and I can get up and down pretty quick, especially with turkey hunting. And his energy, he kind of levels you out and he's kind of that...
00:37:58
Speaker
Whisper and voice in the back saying hey, it's gonna be alright. We're gonna get this done. Don't worry. So He's a great man. He's a great guy to have on a hunting trip because he just keeps it level. I Will say this I have one the best my favorite Sam thing is talking about turkey hunting We they finally taught me and to go into Mississippi with them opening weekend one time I went with Sam. I haven't turkey hunted a lot in my life. So I kind of still on training wheels there and
00:38:28
Speaker
I went with him the first day and we got out there, we were trying to locate turkeys. And you talk about he's so laid back, but I've never seen someone get more into a hoodow call than I saw that morning. I mean, he bared down. I mean, all just, I mean, doing him a whole charade out there, it was pretty spectacular. That made my whole trip for me. I was like, shoot, I'm gonna turn around and go home. I've seen all I need to see. He prides himself on that.
00:38:54
Speaker
He needs to get in that calling contest.
Weather and Hunting Adventures
00:38:56
Speaker
Brent was talking about the other day that in Tennessee, we'll take him up there and get him in that hoot out contest. I mean, it's, it's not just the hoot out noise he makes. It's, it's the act. It's good. It's good. I mean, he's the only one in the duck line that's going to wake you up first thing in the morning and hit you with a rooster crow with a duck call. You're like, what in the world? Me and him went down to Clarendon one time by ourselves, duck, just to tell us going down there, duck hunting.
00:39:23
Speaker
And we were driving and, um, he's, he got in the truck with me. We got the boat hooked, uh, we're headed down there and he just looked at me and he said, boy, he said, we're going to Harley house after this. He says, it's the only reason I got out of bed. I was like, you know, it's the only reason I'm up to. I was like, it ain't about that baby. It's about the breakfast. He's a good time. I'm glad that, uh, you and him became good friends, Tyler, cause I enjoy when you come down here. Uh,
00:39:49
Speaker
It's always a blast that some years we bust on them. Some years the game order runs you off. Some years it's like this. I mean, we had a weird split there where, you know, the last couple of podcasts, we were kind of down in the dumps, weren't killing anything. And then, oh my gosh, it got cold again. Look what happened. There's birds back, right? It's just awful. It's weird. Arkansas weather.
00:40:18
Speaker
Uh, Drew's or Seth's already been on his rant about, you know, everybody up North holding these birds from us. But I mean, there's, there's gotta be some kind of explanation unless they all got shot. So. Yeah. And I kind of doubt that.
00:40:37
Speaker
I heard they just got mannequins with face paint on them out there in them rice fields, just wheat fields and corn fields, whatever they got up there, just standing there with face paint. They never see them, they just hit right there and just lied on it. They're so vicious up there, they shoot them with a compound bubble, they don't even mess with a shotgun.
00:40:57
Speaker
That's so awesome. That's so awesome. Man, Seth, I couldn't have thought of a better night to have you on because we didn't have just a great topic, but I knew that a topic in itself would be talking to you. So I appreciate the time. Pick another one. Pick another one. I'm game for some game for about another 15 minutes.
00:41:19
Speaker
I want to hear about the CrossFit hunts that they do out west, where they got to do that high altitude training and all that. I mean, you're not into that?
00:41:29
Speaker
Man, you can look at me and the Lord built me to be on flat earth. And I mean, it was very little change in elevation. I mean, I don't really need to be doing a whole lot of that walking where you can hear your heart beating in your eardrums. I mean, those more power to those guys. But the funny thing is, is this all for the content.
00:41:49
Speaker
and it's all for the it's they call it doing it for the gram and they think that's what the kids call it today and they like you see these pictures of these guys they're like throwing like a 55 pound dough over their shoulder i'm like well that works out good for you because i mean respect to the short kings out there but they're like all these dudes are like five foot five and i mean it's just like uh
00:42:13
Speaker
It's just like, wow, man. I mean, why? I mean, you're, you're promoting it. Like you're doing all these back country, DIY, element, OP, hunts. And I mean, but you're going to high fence stuff. I mean, everybody knows you are. It's like, dude, everybody knows nobody cares. Quit trying to act like you're doing, you're something you're not. That's all I've ever got.
00:42:30
Speaker
at with it. I mean, it's just like, they're like, oh man, I've walked back country 12 miles straight up a thousand foot face of just shale rock with my bare feet to kill, to harvest the six point Colombian black tail cascade mountains buck. And I'm like, dude, I mean, I just saw a video of you from somewhere else. You were in West Texas last week hunting a high fence. I'm like, dude, just, just
00:42:53
Speaker
Just stop. I mean, just stay in your lane, be who you are. I mean, I'd love to have the money to go high fence hunting. I mean, just admit it. Just be who you are. I mean, just say, hey, I want to shot this buck in the high fence. Yeah, he's 195 inches and I'll pay for every bit of it. I'm like, that's cool, man. That's your bag, baby. Carry it.
00:43:11
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not trying to free solo a mountain to go kill any kind of animal. I mean, did you go watch that? Did you watch the documentary free solo? Good Lord. That scared me. I had nightmares. I had nightmares. I was falling off a thousand foot cliff for a week.
00:43:29
Speaker
I mean, it was just like, wow, I mean, people out there are intense. And I mean, it's just, I mean, more power to them, but I mean, the Lord, the Lord made gravity on my side. So he, that's why he made me a big boy. You think that old boy was up there scouting when he climbed that Yosemite?
00:43:48
Speaker
I highly doubt that. I highly doubt you're going to be on a scouting mission on LCAP, but I mean, that guy, man, his motor hums at a different rhythm than everybody else's, because I'm just like, man, I don't want to climb up a 10 foot ladder without any kind of support.
00:44:05
Speaker
I mean, you got dudes getting 15 foot up in Arkansas, this is the culture difference. You got dudes going up in a climbing stand, 15 foot up in a tree and making sure they're harnessed to the tilt. And you got this guy out there, he's just like, man, the hell with a rope. I'm going straight up this 5,000 foot rock face, just my bare feet, baby. I'm like, God, you talk about going hard in the paint. That is, that dude's the Shaquille O'Neal at rock climbing. I mean, I was just mesmerized by that, but I did have nightmares about it.
00:44:30
Speaker
Yeah, he was talking air traffic control. He was so high up on the side of that thing. I'm like, man, you just, wow. I mean, you do that with a bottle of chalk and some, I mean, just nothing but basically you and your skivvies, baby. That's, that's, that's, that's, I mean, you fall, you slip one time. I mean, it's, it's, there ain't no coming back from that, man. I mean, it's, there's no, there's no more, there's, there's no writing home to mama. I mean, you're,
00:44:58
Speaker
you're headed the other way.
Western Hunting Dreams
00:45:00
Speaker
You know a lot of times those guys that do that kind of stuff that you're referring to, and I ain't going to mention no names because I don't know who you're talking about.
00:45:09
Speaker
Do you think there's a little bit of play to it? Maybe a little bit of horse action, e-bike, you know, the e-bike is popular now. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're not, you know, you don't want to say any names, but the one guy, the first name rhymes with spam. And, you know, I mean, you don't want to, you don't want to say any names, not pointing fingers here, but I mean, you know, I mean,
00:45:34
Speaker
Lord knows I don't need to be wearing a cutoff shirt with exposed nibs. I mean, it's just not, it's just not the way of the world. But, uh, I mean, yeah, I think there's some e-bike going on. I think there's a lot of, Hey, these outfitters are driving these guys out there and saying, Oh look, there's that elk kill it. I mean, which has always personally been a dream of mine. I'm really gets part of it. It's kind of jealous cause I don't have the sponsor dollars or the money to go do something like that.
00:45:56
Speaker
I'm like, but don't tell us a different story than its reality. I'm like, yeah, man, I had the opportunity to go out with this outfit or go out with these guides, man. They took me around, showed me, and there's a six by six bull standing there, and I lit him up like a Christmas tree. I mean, just be who you are. I mean, just be real with it. I mean, don't lie. I mean, you ain't got a lot of kick it.
00:46:17
Speaker
Yeah, if you see me up there in the mountains out west and I'm hunting and I'm taking a picture, there's a helicopter behind the cameraman. No doubt. Yeah, all speaking of helicopters, if I ever had to go out there and try to do any kind of hunting, you remember that meme that came out with the helicopter picking the person up and they just kept spinning around and around and around in circles and they were trying to lift them up. Oh yeah, that's me right there in the full bag. I mean, I'm going. I'm headed for the big ride, baby.
00:46:47
Speaker
just nothing but G-forces. Oh yeah, nothing but a cardiac explosion. I mean, it's just like, wow. I mean, it was a, I'm pretty sure if I ever had to go on like a back country expedition like that.
00:47:01
Speaker
once things went south, I would be the first one to get eaten. I mean, I'm going to be the first one that gets taken down. I mean, it's no doubt about it. That's why I just try to stay in my lane. But I mean, it's a, you know, about a hundred yard walk to the deer stands, about all I'm good for.
00:47:20
Speaker
I like the, uh, the 300 wind mag where you could drive the ranger right up to them and just saw them jokers in there, you know? That's right. Cause I mean, I'm out there, if I'm going to kill a elk, it's not about telling this great grand story about how I walked in from like, that I walked across Wyoming to kill it. No, I'm going out there so I can bring it back and eat that thing.
00:47:42
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, you think, uh, you think that crowd has them, uh, uh, 5.1 or 10.1 stickers on there with like an elk head where they walked? No, no, no, these days are straight 26.2 guys, man. I mean, they're, they're, they're going the distance. I mean, they, they, they got that song by Kate pumping in the background, you know, go in the distance. I mean, they're, uh, they're, they're, they are. Yeah.
00:48:10
Speaker
I mean respect to them ones that want to try that but I mean my my appetite for death is not not that not that deep It's cool. You got Different strokes for different folks, you know, everybody likes to do their different things I mean now that we're on this Western hunting though in general though out of all of us here
00:48:31
Speaker
I think the, the experiences that we've had have been pretty slim, uh, just because a, all of us are, are more waterfowl, Arkansas hunting in general, turkey, duck, deer.
The Art of Bird Hunting
00:48:44
Speaker
Uh, but Seth just kind of on a, on a whim, you ever see yourself going out there trying to shoot some of the, those critters?
00:48:52
Speaker
Like a antelope or an elk, what? I'm going to tell you, if I ever just have an extra 15 G's clanking around in the bank. Oh yeah, that's definitely be awesome. Just like you go out there, you're like, Hey man, I ain't here for a long time. I'm here for a good time. And you know, stroke me out there. There he is. Set him down. Let's pack him out. Let's cut him up, freeze him up and get me back to Arkansas ASAP.
00:49:21
Speaker
So, I mean, yeah, I'd love to go out there and, you know, as far as the, you know, going to Rancho and out there or something, that'd be great. But no, I am not trying to go to the Sierra Nevadas to shoot some kind of sheep or something. I mean, there's just, there are things that certain people are made for and I'm not one of those people.
00:49:40
Speaker
I would like to go out west and do a mule deer hunt. And also, I'd like to go out west with those guys that run those hounds for mountain lions out there, those dry ground hunters. I think that'd be really fun. That's a whole different thing out there. That's definitely a dream of mine. See some hounds, chase those. I don't want to walk with them as far as they walk. No, you got to ride a horse or a mule.
00:50:07
Speaker
I'm not real good at that. I'd have to ride on the back of yours, I guess, since you're the saddle up, the horse guy.
00:50:13
Speaker
Now, Tyler, you got any aspirations out there? Anything you're trying to kill out west that way on top? Yeah. I mean, I, I definitely would like to get out and, you know, try for an elk or a mule deer, antelope. I don't, I don't even know if I'd like to eat one of those, but I'd like to try to kill one for sure. But again, you know, it's going to be me probably paying or trying to do something that's fairly easy because I'm not big on hiking up and down a mountain either.
00:50:39
Speaker
Did our grandpa just go hunt pronghorn out there or would they go up north or was that just your grandfather or what? I know they used to go. You're asking something I don't have much info on. I wish I knew.
00:50:56
Speaker
I thought they were more bird hunting people, but that's all I knew. It might have just been a one-time thing, I don't remember. I'm gonna tell you like this, if we had in Arkansas, if we had the pheasant hunting like they have in the Dakotas and Western Kansas and places like that, I would have two bird dogs and I would never put a pair of waiters on again.
00:51:19
Speaker
That's right. That is my absolute favorite thing in the world to do. I mean, there's nothing more fun than shooting pheasants. I mean, they are, they are, they are a blast to go hunt. I mean, there's, there's, there's no comparison to me. I mean, go ahead. Tyler had a good pheasant hunt up north this year, didn't you?
00:51:38
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I've gone two years in a row to South Dakota went with a group of 15 or 20 guys. And I mean, like Seth said, there's, there's nothing that compares to that. It's, I think I'd hang my waiters up for the same thing, man. I think in three days, both, both times we went, we killed right over 140 birds. So
00:51:57
Speaker
It's a blast watching the dogs work and walking. And the walking is not the best part, but you get to talk and you kind of get to be loud and have some laughs. So it's a good time.
00:52:09
Speaker
Well, the Dakota is the walking parts, not that bad. It's really not too bad. It's the gradient terrain. We're not talking about stuff where you shatter your femur. I mean, it's a little more Arkansas style field, a little more gentle. Yeah, it's a gentle slope. It's made for the Husky boys. I mean, it's pretty forgiving, but I mean, me and dad went up there one time and got caught in a sleet storm. And I think it took him about half the day to unthaw.
00:52:38
Speaker
I mean, that was, that was pretty intense because the wind's a lot more fierce up there than it is here at home, but it's, I mean, but still, it's, it's, it's fun. Watching a bird dog work, work pheasants is, is one of the, that's one of the joys that you can get in the outdoors. I mean, if you don't ever see it, I never seen it before. It's, it's worth the trip. Just watch the dogs.
00:52:58
Speaker
What kind of dogs they use up there mainly? They stick to a certain breed or they use a little bit of everything. I've been several different places and a lot of Britney Spaniels, a lot of Britneys. The two best ones in my opinion that I hunted with were two Griffin Corners. I mean, those were those wire hair griffins. Those are pretty awesome dogs. And then, you know, they're,
00:53:28
Speaker
I mean I even went with some labs and I mean a lab will make it a lab will make a good bird dog if you if you work them hard Yeah, that's that's what the guys that we went with all had they ran five or six labs the whole time Yeah, lab is I mean a lab is a real everybody looks as a waterfowl dog. It's a super versatile dog I mean there they're pretty pretty gifted. I mean they really are but they're
00:53:51
Speaker
I mean, some of the better, been on some good hunts, been on some pretty good hunts with some, with some, uh, with some labs. So, I mean, it's not a, it's not real restrictive. You can have about any kind of bird dog and make it work. Do you, uh, do you think you're going to be taking your lab next year, Seth? Oh.
00:54:12
Speaker
I'm not going to get that carried away. I mean, it's, uh, I think he might go duck hunting with me once or twice, but I mean, he's, uh, he's probably not. I'm sorry. I had to charge my headset, but they're, uh, he'll probably go once or twice with me, but I mean, he's, he's, he's, he's got a little bit of growing up to do.
00:54:33
Speaker
Hey, real quick on the labs, I mean, I follow like hound pedigrees and stuff like that pretty good with, you know, the red bones and all the hounds that I'm interested in. Do people do that on the labs as far as like finding a good duck dog, or I know they do a lot of field trials. Y'all know anything about any of that? Yeah, I mean, it's all been a, it's a, you know, pedigree is a big part of it, but I'll be honest with you,
00:55:00
Speaker
My father-in-law had one that he got for free from somebody and with a lab, it's all about exposure. I mean, it's all about how much they're outside, how much they're out running around and they'll learn, they pick up more stuff. I call it on the job than anything. I mean, it's, it's all about exposure with them and they can be the best house dog in the world or they can be the best duck dog in the world. It's just all about the environment that they're exposed to. I mean, he had one of the best dogs I've ever seen in my life. I mean,
00:55:31
Speaker
Great pet, well mannered dog, but I mean, he would sit still the whole day and I mean, Roger told me he fetched duck after duck, after duck and go right back and sit down and never move a muscle till it was time to go. Nobody ever taught him nothing. They're either born with it or not. I think, I think, uh, you know, kind of addressing that in terms of exposure. I mean, you go to think about it, Jake, we got these dogs out of, out of Hank June and
00:55:59
Speaker
you know, how much exposure I gave Hank. I mean, I used to get Seth to go right around with me. We just would look for raccoons to try to get him trained. You remember that, Seth? I mean, I'd go three or four times a night. I mean, it wasn't like it was overnight. He went to a trainer for three months and he knew how to do it. That's just not how it goes. Uh, one guy, hopefully we can get on this podcast, kind of talk about training dogs and
00:56:29
Speaker
and give us a little more insight on the labs. Hopefully we can get Mark Wilkes from Frog Bow Retrievers. He's worked on a couple of our dogs before and he hunts with us occasionally. He's pretty knowledgeable. He does a bunch of that AKC hunting you're referring to, but my kind of opinion in terms of it, like from a veterinarian standpoint, what I see, you can pay for a really, really, really high caliber, full of energy pet.
00:56:58
Speaker
that you can't pay for the experiences that you get when you're out there in the woods. I mean, that's kind of just hits exactly what Seth's talking. I mean, if you don't kill ducks where you're at, they ain't going to know how to pick up a duck. I mean, that's just, that's all it goes to.
00:57:14
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Well, I just didn't, I didn't know if the lab guys are big into like, you know, well, I want to breed my dog or buy a dog out a certain field champion or, you know, I don't know how they do the labs, I guess, you know, the hounds are not champion, grand night champions. And I mean, I got two scrolls in there for my dogs and you know, I don't mean they're going to trickoons or whatever game you're pursuing. I just didn't know if the lab side was just,
00:57:43
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It's hardcore about that as the hound side of it. Oh yeah, there's some people out there pretty hardcore about labor orders. I mean, they're, I mean, you can go as broke as you want to buy one, but you can buy the, like Whit said, you can buy the most high dollar genetics to the hilt.
00:58:01
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lab in the world, but if he won't fetch ducks, he won't fetch ducks. But I've always liked them because they're such a versatile dog breed. There's so much you can do with them, so much they're capable of, so much more they're capable of, and they've always been a pretty gentle species too.
00:58:25
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They're a gentle breed. I mean, they're, you know, they're always good around young kids and they're not a vicious dog by any means. And you're not ever going to have to worry about them turning on somebody or anything like that. I mean, the lab's pretty much just a lab as far as personality goes, but they're, uh, yeah, you can, it's just all about exposing them. I mean, the more they hunt, the more they go, the better they get generally.
00:58:47
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The one thing you can, you can go buy 5,000, pay that $5,000 for one, but you're rolling the dice because you can shoot shotgun over its head and you'll never see him again. So, I mean, you look up and all you're going to see is the bottom of his paws running away from you. I think the funniest thing from kind of the weekend of Tyler's and it's not funny to Tyler, but that old dog of his, boy, he was glad to be there, wasn't he? Yeah, he was, he was amped up. I mean, and he's got it.
00:59:18
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Don't let me get this wrong. Yellow lab? No. Yeah. His yellow lab got a quarter chest peak. Yep. That's what it is. And, uh, that morning we went hunting, I'm pretty sure he was the board. He was, he was the most bored person in the, in the blind, even though we were all pretty bored. It was, it was pretty sad, but, uh, tell us a little bit about that story where he, he decided to come on down in there a little quick.
00:59:45
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Yeah, that was the first time I've ever hunted with him out of a pit blind and we didn't have a box. The whole, what, first 30 minutes to an hour, I was trying to get him down in there and he finally decided he wanted to come. Well, I wasn't looking when he did and he put his head right in my chest and I went to the other side of the pit blind pretty quick and he knocked over about everything in that pit blind trying to get down in there. So that's not the first time he's trucked right through me.
01:00:16
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He's got a lot of weight behind him. Auto motor too, sounds like. Yeah, he's got an insane motor. Once he's about three or four, he's going to be the best, but right now it's hard to contain him. Thank you, Whit, for calling me out on that. If I'm not the one falling, I'm good to make fun of it, because Drew's little episode, he was in some of them Neoprene weapons.
01:00:40
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Uh, waiters there too, Seth, when he, he wallowed off in there like a whale.
01:00:51
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Yeah, I hadn't even got a chance to try it, really. I've been trying to stay on dry ground. I'm scared to get wet again when it's cold, but, you know, wet brings that up. We were out there in the steep reservoir, probably 22 degrees, snow on the ground. First thing in the morning, fell straight head first in. I was out there swimming around, couldn't do nothing. It was bad. It made for a good laugh that morning, though, if you want to feel good about it, Drew.
01:01:20
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Pretty good laugh. Oh yeah, for sure. I definitely laughed at myself now and later now we had probably one of our better hunts we've ever had, I would think, you know, and stuff like that, but it was good. It was a good time. You know, I think out of this episode, the best thing I can say is I'm glad to have had you this whole time, Drew. Yeah, I know what I... It's the internet, the thank you.
Technology in Hunting and Conclusion
01:01:45
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We're going to, we're going to thank our sponsors ASU library.
01:01:49
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I'm hearing BB. Another thing we might need to thank is Onyx for sharing everybody's spots on the public land, giving everybody the possessive thought, like Seth was talking about. I think that, you know, I meant to mention that earlier, but that was a big part of the possessiveness. I mean, I'm just like everybody else. I look there too. So great. I just like the good thing about that app is it lets you know that you're
01:02:16
Speaker
Maybe not where you're not supposed to be. That's right. You can always pull it up and say, I could have sworn eyes on the right property. Unless you're John. Yeah. I got to use it all the time with these hounds because they get loose and you're like, well, fixing to be having to run zero dark 30 with this headlamp through here.
01:02:46
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Man, I can't thank you enough for coming on set, spending an hour with us. I think you probably got some bigger things to do for the rest of the night. Tyler, thanks again for making it, dude. I know you're busy with the kid, but we hope to have you about every other episode at least. Jacob, Drew, consistent as always, except, well, today you're consistent, Drew. Pretty glad with that. And we lost Cole early. I think one of his four kids,
01:03:16
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something happened. We're going to call and check on him in here in a second. But, uh, again, thank you to everybody for listening. Go like our Facebook page, little woods outdoors. Um, hopefully we're going to post some pictures of, of Seth here soon. So everybody knows what he looks like when he's talking about, please, please don't.
01:03:34
Speaker
Wait, everybody needs to know what he looks like when he's talking about this mountain climbing. So yeah, you'll see why, why the Lord didn't, the Lord didn't bless me with that. But that, that does make it awesome and good way to end it. Uh, thanks for being on guys. And we'll see you on episode seven. Hopefully you need to get you some sponsors with it. You need to get, you need to get, so you can start just hammering sponsors before you get off.
01:03:59
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Uh, what about Prairie? That's the whole point. Oh, you want me to sponsor it? Yeah. Yeah. I'd give a Jacob on that one, but that's, uh, I mean, I don't know. Yeah. You can, you can throw a shout out to it. A shout out to Prairie Ag. They're right outside of desert. Thank y'all. Everybody have a great night.