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EEO's And 1767's For The Win
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On today's episode, episode #13 of the Postal Blue Podcast we speak on the EEO, Equal Opportunity Employment filing system and briefly speak on what 1767's are as far as the postal service is concerned. We speak up where we left off, leaving the grievance process and going to the next step. If you really want something to change in the post office, these are the two tools to use if your union are allowing bullying, harassment or hostile work environments in your office.
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EEO Phone Number - 1-800-669-4000
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Transcript
00:00:01
lastyles
Yeah, what's going on? What's going on? What's going on?
Introduction and Purpose
00:00:07
lastyles
Everyone out there, we're getting ready for another episode of the Post It Blue podcast, episode 13.
00:00:15
lastyles
ah the post What should be a very ah educational ah episode, right? um
00:00:25
lastyles
I don't, sometimes we don't mean, and I don't mean to be ah super informative, but some of these shows, right? That don't really involve short stories in my personal situations, right? Are for you to get the information,
Importance of Timely Information
00:00:41
lastyles
right? Because I feel like the faster you guys can get the information, right? Then the faster we can get change going on versus me dragging out a ah one topic for five episodes that take a month and a half to get out, you know what I'm saying? And when we should have been fighting it the first week that you got the information, you could have been fighting, you know what I'm saying? so
00:01:02
ShereeVWatkins
Biggest.
00:01:02
lastyles
This one is probably the two biggest game changers um that we need to start utilizing. And we're gonna go over those today, right?
Main Topics: EEOs and 1767s
00:01:11
lastyles
Which is the your EEOs and your 1767s, right? But we're gonna, the main meat on the plate, the entree, the so to speak is EEOs, right? Now, a lot of people from what I'm told, oh, let me slow down. What's going on, Ms. Watkins?
00:01:30
ShereeVWatkins
How you doing, Mr. Anderson? I'm okay.
00:01:33
lastyles
Walking this year fee will be here later.
00:01:34
ShereeVWatkins
She's ready.
00:01:38
lastyles
Right. I had to, I had to get her straight because she tried to cook sandwiches for Sunday dinner. So we definitely going to talk bad about her on another show.
00:01:43
ShereeVWatkins
But she cooked last week, so she cooked last week, and we'll get into that, you know, as usual.
00:01:46
lastyles
Listen, last week was last week. I was seven days ago.
00:01:53
lastyles
Listen, it's a routine that she started in her household. She's been a body maker start that that's, you know, so you know, you got to keep that up. You can't choose to make sandwiches and it's a clock.
00:02:02
ShereeVWatkins
But if they don't eat it, if they don't eat it, that's a problem. That's going to be a problem for the next Sunday.
00:02:06
lastyles
All right.
00:02:09
ShereeVWatkins
That's the issue.
00:02:10
lastyles
So how's open to have issued in because now it's going to be an uproar. and Now somebody got to deal with that, but we'll get there.
00:02:15
ShereeVWatkins
You'll hear them feel right.
00:02:16
lastyles
You definitely go harass her when this time y'all y'all know what we do.
00:02:17
ShereeVWatkins
OK.
00:02:21
lastyles
Right. So ah But Watkins is here. Coffee is MIA. Watkins is sitting at a search party for him.
00:02:28
ShereeVWatkins
i Oh. Black Knight. All right.
00:02:33
lastyles
But Watkins is this here now.
Approaches to Handling Issues
00:02:35
lastyles
Before I go into any details, which I want to go straight to the EOS, which I will, let me let me preference this by saying this, right.
00:02:47
lastyles
Me and coffee are probably the two most extreme guys in our group. Extreme on two different ends, right? Coffee is the first person to try to put hands on somebody or kill somebody. You'll find them in some type of oil can, send stuff on fire when he feels some type of way. That's coffee.
00:03:05
lastyles
Right? Being honest, you can ask Fe, she'll tell you. He done killed a million people on our other podcast before, but ah in the past two years. And then we'd be having to take his weapons from him out of his speech. And he kind of be on time out on some of his words, cause he goes straight to killing people in other shows. So, um and me, I'm more on the stream side of,
00:03:27
lastyles
doing things that's not fatal. You know what I'm saying? Coffee is more than fatal.
00:03:31
ShereeVWatkins
right But does things.
00:03:32
lastyles
um'm like I'm gonna get right to the part where it's fatal, but but you don't die.
00:03:34
ShereeVWatkins
and
00:03:36
lastyles
You know what I'm saying? So I'm like a leg shot in both legs and both arms, but I'm not trying to kill you.
00:03:37
ShereeVWatkins
You're going to wish you have died. so that
00:03:44
lastyles
Correct.
00:03:44
ShereeVWatkins
stuff for us, that's what he liked.
00:03:45
lastyles
So, but, but within, but within rights coffee is willing to break the law on you. I'm going to, I want to be within the law, but on the verge of it could have been criminal activity, but it, it wasn't, you know what I'm saying?
00:03:57
lastyles
That's me. Right. So I said to say, my Leonard Anders opinion is Leonard Anders opinion, no matter who's on the show. What I think and how I move is what I think and how I move now it'll go there's some instances where the stars a align and we all got similar opinions, if not the same opinions or we got the same. ah We want the same outcome, but we get to them differently right so nobody on the show is is responsible for anybody else's on the show's opinion.
00:04:28
lastyles
Theirs is theirs, mine is mine. Sometimes we have great debates on that. Sometimes the stars are just aligned where we kind of in a similar field or the similar lane where we both kind of feel, where we all kind of feel the same thing to a degree.
00:04:38
ShereeVWatkins
Okay.
00:04:41
lastyles
But what I say is what I say. So if you got problems with something I say, you make sure to holla at me about it. If you ain't willing to holla at me about it, then really, you don't feel no type of way, right?
00:04:45
ShereeVWatkins
Look, he stay ready. Y'all hear that? He stay ready.
00:04:51
lastyles
Because I don't want nobody catching slack for anything Leonard Anderson says. Holla at me. right I'm very reachable. Anybody in the post office who know me in the district or know of me, have heard of me, can reach me whenever they need to reach me if you want to have a conversation. right I didn't talk to supervisors. I talked to managers. I didn't did that before. I i called the union hall. that The phone works two ways. If you guys problem with something that I'm saying, you can call me. You can find somebody that got my that has my number in contact.
00:05:22
lastyles
And we're going to leave that there before I get into, it cause I don't want nobody catching strays for something that I'm going to say.
Understanding EEOs
00:05:28
lastyles
Right. Cause again, I'm more on the extreme side of things. At least at this point, I i wasn't always like this in the post office. I got to this point. The post office got me there. Right. So I'm like on the edge of being postal, but not actually postal yet. You know what I'm saying? But we verbal sash will be shot soon. It's letting you know. So yeah, it's going to be what it is. Right.
00:05:50
lastyles
Again, highlight let me for what I say. um Okay, so with that said, right, last episode we were talking about how the grievance process is not working while we keep attempting to use the grievance process for some things.
00:06:07
lastyles
There is a place forward, right? um Everything is not to this next step where we're feeling what we're going to talk about, but in the current state of the post office, a lot of things actually fit in this
00:06:13
ShereeVWatkins
I don't want to go.
00:06:19
lastyles
fit in EEO, which is why I'm bringing it up, but we're not using it.
00:06:22
ShereeVWatkins
I'm going to go on the right.
00:06:22
lastyles
It's a tool that we should be using in these cases, but we're not using it.
00:06:26
ShereeVWatkins
Here we go.
00:06:26
lastyles
And we're going to talk about, I'm going to give you information on what it is, how you use it.
00:06:29
ShereeVWatkins
There we go.
00:06:31
lastyles
What you need to use it what you don't need to use it right how to use it properly. Right, so you guys, because I want to just going out there and I won't give everybody a gun and an ammo and just tell you shoot at people, I want to show you how to shoot you know im saying we don't need innocent people being shy. I want you to shoot the person that you shouldn't that that's that's the point you don't say so everybody don't have to catch it right.
00:06:54
lastyles
So we're going to get into that, right? Again, this is a more informative and educational episode right here. This is this is direct to you, and then we'll lean back um on the latter half of of this show, right?
00:07:06
lastyles
Where probably a few of us are turning up, and then we have more of a conversation in general about the EEO, Grievous, and regular postal activities, or whatever the case is, right? Until we get to that around that hour mark or so.
00:07:18
lastyles
But we have people showing up in in the meantime.
00:07:19
ShereeVWatkins
Okay.
00:07:21
lastyles
ah You wanted to start by saying something, Watkins, or were you good?
00:07:24
ShereeVWatkins
Nope, I'm good. I'm ready for you to start so I can take off.
00:07:30
lastyles
Okay, so what a grievous process is when violations are consistent repeated and and you start to lead into that high side work environment, you start to lean into that harassment, you start to lean into discrimination. This is what EEOs pick up at, right? And a lot of people from what I hear don't know about EEOs, how to properly follow EEOs or about reporting EEOs, or maybe they just feel like
00:07:57
ShereeVWatkins
Oh, yeah.
00:07:57
lastyles
they don't have the information and what they're telling people falling on deaf ears.
00:07:59
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
00:08:00
lastyles
Well, guess what? You don't need anyone for you to file an EEO. You don't need anyone in the post office. You don't need your steward, your safety captain, your supervisor manager. It'll all be done online.
00:08:12
lastyles
Now, one time I brung this up, let me let me ah clarify this as well. One time I brung this up, someone one told me that they didn't think following the EEO would be worth it because wouldn't they be on management side for the EEO specialist. They were under the assumption that EEOs or the people over EEOs, which are specialists, are part of management and they're not. ah Go ahead Watkins, you want to say something?
00:08:37
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah, I was ah just wanting to ask, Stewart asked me this recently, and this inter this person said, how can it be discrimination if you guys are the same color?
00:08:55
lastyles
ah discrimination. So under the EU policy discrimination, there's multiple categories in discrimination, just like regular life discrimination, not just postal discrimination or um federal discrimination or government discrimination, right? So discrimination ah encompasses gender, right? So from man to woman, it incorporates, um there's an age, so for older people, there's, a if you have A level of restrictions.
00:09:24
lastyles
So for disabled, you can argue disabled people right as a discrimination for for disability for handicapped individuals.
00:09:31
ShereeVWatkins
All right.
00:09:33
lastyles
Right. Meaning it like that would be an example if they keep bothering you about how fast or how slow you're moving and you have a restriction. That's discrimination.
00:09:43
ShereeVWatkins
Right, right, all right.
00:09:45
lastyles
Or you can argue that that's discrimination. If they consistently do it. If I remind you, Hey, I have a restriction. I have shoulder surgery and you keep doing it. Then at that point you're harassing me and you're trying to treat me a handicap person trying to say that I should be moving as fast as a healthy person.
00:10:03
lastyles
And they're trying to hold me to that standard or threaten my job or write me up for it. And then you're discriminating against, against me.
00:10:09
ShereeVWatkins
See, it's like once he, once he asked me that, you know, I never thought about that, like, you know, OK, just because we're the same race, it can't be no discrimination.
00:10:10
lastyles
Right.
00:10:22
ShereeVWatkins
But then I got to thinking, like, maybe people are scared because it's like, OK, we're the same nationality and you can't discriminate on me because we both African-American, we both Caucasian,
Forms of Discrimination
00:10:36
lastyles
Well, for one, I will say i would say that that's false, right? A black person, let's say black. African-American person can discriminate on another African-American person.
00:10:36
ShereeVWatkins
we both Latino, you know,
00:10:42
ShereeVWatkins
OK.
00:10:44
lastyles
I'm not saying you racist. I just say you're racist. I just say you hate black people.
00:10:48
ShereeVWatkins
But I'm saying, you say do you think most people kind of be scared to kind of go that extra extreme because it's the same race?
00:10:49
lastyles
You know what I'm saying?
00:11:00
ShereeVWatkins
You know, because when he asked me that, I thought about it. I'm like, well, damn, you know, I wonder, do they go through people's minds? It's like, OK, we're the same color, so.
00:11:09
lastyles
No, listen, we all for once, okay,
00:11:12
ShereeVWatkins
You know, I'm not going to think about discrimination. I'll just probably think about disrespect or, but I ain't thinking about discrimination just because we are the same color.
00:11:23
lastyles
okay. Look, I'm gonna give y'all a good starting point, right?
00:11:23
ShereeVWatkins
and
00:11:26
lastyles
For discrimination. If you see yourself getting treated differently than other people, there's probably something in there and you should start looking forward. I say that, right?
00:11:39
lastyles
Host of Blue, we all the same. We all supposed to get treated the same, right? So at any point in time, if you feel like you're getting treated differently, let's say you just start getting assigned more overtime than other people.
00:11:52
lastyles
That's there's something to that. Okay, let me notate that, right? That's a starting point, because something differently has been taking place when nothing differently is supposed to be happening. You know what I'm saying?
00:12:02
lastyles
Me, coffee, shout out coffee, you just showed up, Black Knight in the building.
00:12:05
ShereeVWatkins
Hey, coffee.
00:12:07
Blackknight
What up? What up?
00:12:08
ShereeVWatkins
Hey, got the barrel, got the barrel voice going on.
00:12:09
lastyles
ah What the heck? You done did, man.
00:12:12
ShereeVWatkins
How you doing, sir?
00:12:14
lastyles
Wait, what?
00:12:14
ShereeVWatkins
Hope your team, uh, we taking these out.
00:12:15
Blackknight
I'm good. How about y'all?
00:12:17
lastyles
Your mic just fell off.
00:12:17
Blackknight
Man, my team winning.
00:12:18
lastyles
Your mic, your mic just fell off like, like, your mic just fell off like dame dash teeth, man.
00:12:19
Blackknight
Yeah, I'm good.
00:12:23
lastyles
The other day, the the video.
00:12:23
ShereeVWatkins
He picked it up, though, without listening to beats, so you good, coffee.
00:12:27
lastyles
Listen, man, you gotta, you gotta stop using your strong hand, man.
00:12:27
Blackknight
You crazy.
00:12:30
lastyles
You gotta stop, stop grabbing the mic with your right hand. I know you normally grab the mic with your right hand, but it's a different type of mic. You know what I'm saying? You gotta relax.
00:12:37
Blackknight
Hey man, you got to do what you got to do.
00:12:39
ShereeVWatkins
I know that's right.
00:12:40
lastyles
It ain't no jerkins in there, is it?
00:12:42
Blackknight
No, no, no, no baby wall over here.
00:12:45
lastyles
1,000 bottles? Oh, OK.
00:12:46
ShereeVWatkins
ah
00:12:47
lastyles
I thought you should have been a Rico. You know what I'm saying? They could be looking for you.
00:12:51
Blackknight
No, sir.
00:12:52
ShereeVWatkins
Oh, yeah, Pink Diddy did it.
00:12:53
lastyles
You know what I'm saying?
00:12:53
Blackknight
Don't be looking for me.
00:12:54
lastyles
There's going to be a mission to guilt, man.
00:12:54
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
00:12:57
lastyles
You have been to the one in parties?
00:12:59
Blackknight
Man, no, oh no, no, no, no.
00:13:01
lastyles
OK. So, so, so, so, Post the Blue ain't got to worry about you showing up on no tape or nothing. Is what you're saying?
00:13:06
Blackknight
No tapes at all, man, you know?
00:13:07
lastyles
OK. All right.
00:13:09
Blackknight
Ay.
00:13:10
ShereeVWatkins
man
00:13:10
Blackknight
Ay, I party solo. I don't um don't do those kind of parties.
00:13:14
lastyles
Okay, um I just got double check man.
00:13:15
ShereeVWatkins
We don't know what kind of parties they were.
00:13:16
lastyles
and Ever since, ever since they got Diddy, we ain't seen you.
00:13:18
ShereeVWatkins
i mean we would
00:13:19
Blackknight
Ay.
00:13:19
ShereeVWatkins
ah
00:13:22
lastyles
So I'm saying, ever since he got indicted, ain't nobody heard from you, man.
00:13:22
ShereeVWatkins
ah
00:13:23
Blackknight
Ay, look.
00:13:26
Blackknight
Ay, look, I was over there making sure that I was, you know, checking the tapes to make sure Watkins, you know, she was in making the band, one of them making the bands. Just making sure they ain't have a name in there.
00:13:37
ShereeVWatkins
ah
00:13:37
lastyles
Okay, I just had to double check, man.
00:13:38
Blackknight
ah so I was just looking at, you know, I've been a real teammate. I made sure Watkins tape didn't get found.
00:13:41
ShereeVWatkins
yeah
00:13:44
Blackknight
ah
00:13:44
ShereeVWatkins
I'm going to get you next time, coffee. We going to talk back on. I got you.
00:13:52
ShereeVWatkins
OK, you know, we'd like to see how you feeling tonight.
00:13:52
lastyles
um
00:13:53
Blackknight
Actually, I was doing, you know, the pretty good, pretty good.
00:13:56
lastyles
oh so Oh, so,
00:14:00
ShereeVWatkins
All right, let's get into it.
00:14:02
lastyles
um Fia be back rejoining us when she get home.
00:14:07
lastyles
Well, I'm gonna tell you what what she got going on too. So we got to talk crazy about her later.
00:14:11
ShereeVWatkins
Hater. It ain't no major cause.
00:14:13
lastyles
Look, she says in Sunday dinner, we got to discuss it. I'm just gonna let you know. In Sunday dinner today, she making sandwiches.
00:14:19
Blackknight
Okay.
00:14:21
ShereeVWatkins
Cause last week she cooked Sunday dinner and they didn't eat.
00:14:26
Blackknight
I got nothing to do with that.
00:14:26
ShereeVWatkins
A nice meal. i ah yeah yeah We'll talk about this on feed get up.
00:14:28
Blackknight
I ain't got nothing to do with that. Don't bring me no sandwiches on Sunday. I'm sorry. It ain't gonna go well for you.
00:14:34
ShereeVWatkins
Cause I need some backup.
00:14:35
lastyles
See, that's what I'm saying. that um just i just I just want you to be ready.
00:14:36
ShereeVWatkins
I just. on
00:14:39
lastyles
you Get your mental rolodex going, get your defense going, because you know she's going to say something crazy.
00:14:44
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah, because you ain't feel like that last Sunday when the food didn't get ate.
00:14:45
Blackknight
You already know.
00:14:47
ShereeVWatkins
That's the problem.
00:14:48
lastyles
Maybe he wasn't hungry. Could have missed a lot of things. Maybe the person feel good, the stomach was hurting.
00:14:50
ShereeVWatkins
oh
00:14:52
lastyles
Whatever your daughter don't eat ain't got even nothing to do with me. That's your daughter.
00:14:57
ShereeVWatkins
i guess
00:14:57
lastyles
i'm different Her man, I'm different. You know what I'm saying? Jamie, Jamie, not, not the daughter.
00:15:01
ShereeVWatkins
yeah
00:15:03
lastyles
If the daughter didn't eat, you got nothing to do with me. Me, I could have been sick. My stomach hurt and I could have already been full. A lot of things why I didn't eat that dinner, but I don't deserve to get dinner the next week after you made it a tradition.
00:15:11
ShereeVWatkins
no No pass.
00:15:15
lastyles
Nah, we not doing that.
00:15:15
ShereeVWatkins
Ain't no wrong with the sandwich. Okay, we're back into the EO.
00:15:18
lastyles
So, um, um, so, so what I was saying is when you start seeing a difference,
00:15:19
ShereeVWatkins
Go on.
00:15:26
lastyles
Right. And this, this way I'm gonna get into later on when I talk about doing things the proper way. Right. And not just flying off the handle to think everything, good just like not everything is a grievance.
00:15:37
lastyles
Not everything is a EEO, but we're going to get into that once we get there again. I don't want y'all attempted to misuse it because using it and not getting anywhere. It's not going to help the ah cause at all.
00:15:47
lastyles
You know what I'm saying?
00:15:48
Blackknight
copy.
00:15:49
lastyles
So, so with with that said, right. So yeah, EEO and discrimination wise can go to race, can go to gender. can go through ah as ethnicity, can go to ah religious beliefs, politics, or um ah disabled. So I'll just say, hey, health. You know what I'm saying? But did they have a disability discrimination. um So I just say various type of health issues or restrictions or whatever the case is, injuries and things that people have can be discriminated against, right? Along with age, right? People over 40, that's in paperwork, people over 40
00:16:25
lastyles
are not are not on can't be held to the same standards of people that's younger than for that's also a thing.
00:16:31
Blackknight
Copy. So true.
00:16:33
lastyles
Right that's well everything i'm saying is in paperwork, let me let me work everything we saying is in paperwork, you might not have a paperwork might not show you the paperwork but it's in paperwork a lot of this also you can look up.
00:16:41
ShereeVWatkins
So what are we?
00:16:45
ShereeVWatkins
So what is your 40? I'm 40, so I'm 40.
00:16:49
Blackknight
What have you with?
00:16:49
lastyles
Okay. 40 and up okay 40 enough.
00:16:52
ShereeVWatkins
40 and up.
00:16:52
Blackknight
U.S.A. your citizen in the federal community.
00:16:57
ShereeVWatkins
Oh, coffee, I'm getting you.
00:16:59
lastyles
Hey.
00:17:00
ShereeVWatkins
Okay.
00:17:03
lastyles
Right? So um so you can follow EEO.
00:17:04
ShereeVWatkins
Okay. Noted.
00:17:07
lastyles
And you don't need a union steward to follow EEO. You don't need your manager, supervisor, a senior union ah lead, or head, or whatever the case, to follow EEO. You can do it online. I'm going to start with, ah
00:17:18
ShereeVWatkins
So you just go to your light blue and go to the EEO process and just do it that way.
00:17:26
lastyles
forget, forget.
00:17:26
ShereeVWatkins
Not even calling the union or.
00:17:27
lastyles
You can. Now what you can do? Because you can start it by mail, by telephone, ah telephone you can go to an EOC office that's that's near you, or you could do it online. What I will first do, right outside of doing your due diligence to make sure you got actual case, is you can call the number. right You
Starting the EEO Process
00:17:48
lastyles
give them the information, and they will let you know if you have a case or not. that's that You could do that first. I'm going to give you the number. right this It's a 1-800 number, so anybody can call. why We're going to give you all the information first.
00:18:00
lastyles
1-800-669-4000. Right, I'ma read you what it says about the telephone part. Although we do not take 1-800-669-4000.
00:18:08
Blackknight
Say the number one more time.
00:18:15
lastyles
So it's four zero, I'ma say a single. 1-800-669-4000. Now it says, although we do not take charges over the phone, you can get the process started over the phone. You can call 1-800-669-4000 to discuss your situation. A representative will ask you for some basic information to determine if your situation is covered by the laws they enforce and explain how to file a charge.
00:18:51
lastyles
You don't need assistance as far as in the post office. You can do your own thing when it comes to EEOs, right? Cool. Now, let's get under what EEOs cover for the most part that I can find and remember, right? Your EEOs will cover harassment, discrimination, and typically, hostile work environments.
00:19:18
lastyles
Now there's little things under each category.
00:19:19
Blackknight
What type of, well, I was just, I was just about to say elaborate on each one, but you was about to do that anyway.
00:19:22
lastyles
Go ahead.
00:19:30
lastyles
Oh, well, harassment is self-explanatory. You know I'm saying?
00:19:33
ShereeVWatkins
What, no, no, what what kind of harassment?
00:19:35
Blackknight
No, no, it's a, it's a lot of
00:19:37
lastyles
Well, look, there's there's only one, I think there's only one type of harassment.
00:19:37
ShereeVWatkins
That need to be clear.
00:19:41
lastyles
I'm assuming, I'm not talking about sexual harassment. I hope that's not the case. You know what I'm saying?
00:19:45
ShereeVWatkins
A, sometimes it be, but it's like, OK, this manager keeps staring at me every day.
00:19:47
Blackknight
a
00:19:50
ShereeVWatkins
He's giving me the googly eyes. Is that a harassment?
00:19:53
lastyles
OK. so
00:19:54
ShereeVWatkins
You know you have to tell the two.
00:19:57
lastyles
Well, OK. Because y'all trying to do too much.
00:19:59
ShereeVWatkins
aye
00:20:01
lastyles
Hold on. I'm going to tell you something.
00:20:02
ShereeVWatkins
ah
00:20:03
lastyles
I'm going to use the basic term for you.
00:20:03
ShereeVWatkins
coffee,
00:20:08
lastyles
Hold on.
00:20:08
ShereeVWatkins
googly eyes.
00:20:11
ShereeVWatkins
now
00:20:12
Blackknight
man, you know that you know how the male supervisor be doing, you know, they be out to walk as you know what I'm saying?
00:20:12
lastyles
I'm going to break something down for you. All right.
00:20:15
ShereeVWatkins
hey
00:20:17
lastyles
All right. I know.
00:20:18
ShereeVWatkins
man yeah
00:20:18
lastyles
Watch this. This is the definition.
00:20:20
Blackknight
She she got that Gio Scott, uh, hair drag going. They be liking that man. She had that Gio Scott, uh, hair rag. They'd be looking.
00:20:27
lastyles
No, you know, she was listening to, you know, she was listening to Eric about do what she clean house earlier.
00:20:28
ShereeVWatkins
oh yeah
00:20:31
lastyles
So,
00:20:32
ShereeVWatkins
yeah
00:20:32
Blackknight
Mm hmm.
00:20:33
ShereeVWatkins
show was, and tuning in to wild views. So funny.
00:20:38
lastyles
so look, this, this, this how broad it is, which also works in our favor.
00:20:38
ShereeVWatkins
That's how some of y'all.
00:20:43
lastyles
We're going to get to why we don't use it later.
00:20:43
ShereeVWatkins
Okay.
00:20:45
lastyles
Why I think, why I think it's my disclaimer. We don't use it later, right? If someone is abusing, insulting or otherwise harming you on a regular basis is called harassment.
00:21:02
lastyles
Cruel and unusually really annoying harassment is also illegal in some cases, right? Harassment is a word that describes any kind of ongoing term ah torment, any type of ongoing torment.
00:21:17
lastyles
As school, work, anything of that nature.
00:21:20
ShereeVWatkins
Okay.
00:21:23
lastyles
So it's normally any type of repeated unwelcomed ah behavior or unwelcoming unnecessary behavior, right? That's that's continues in any and any environment, whether it's school, work, um in public, or whatever the case is. You know what I'm saying? This is how stalking is harassment. Stalking is stalking, but stalking is a charge because it's harassment. Even though that person is across the street looking into your window, it's unwelcomed and uncomfortable It could be harming you mentally, type of behavior, and you repeatedly doing it.
00:21:57
lastyles
Stalking is harassment. That's why it's harassment. And you can file charges to get people put in jail or sue people based on harassment. Example, if I'm at my case and I'm working at my case, and you come to me saying, hey, Leonard, you got 45 minutes.
00:22:15
lastyles
I don't say nothing. I nod or keep working. I'm working. You come back, hey, Leonard, it's been more than 45 minutes.
00:22:21
ShereeVWatkins
Okay.
00:22:21
lastyles
OK. I still, I'm still working. I'm working. At least 55 minutes, you got to get out of the office. At this point in time, I'm going to tell you, excuse you, but I believe you're starting to harass me. This is unwelcome behavior and it's unnecessary. The rules say as long as I'm working and I have work to do, I'm supposed to continue working.
00:22:44
lastyles
You coming over here repeatedly is not gonna change the fact that I still have mail to case and I still have work to do.
00:22:48
ShereeVWatkins
Okay, thank you.
00:22:51
lastyles
At this point in time, this is unwelcome attention that you keep bringing my way. Almost like you're going out of your way to keep bothering me. That's harassment.
00:22:59
Blackknight
Okay.
00:23:00
lastyles
You could say whatever you want to say from your desk. You could have said this over a telecom on a microphone or something. You ain't got to keep coming to me. But again, I give you the leverage to say you can say what you want to say because it is a free country.
00:23:16
lastyles
That's your given right, legally. But you ain't got to keep coming over here bothering me with whatever it is that you're trying to do.
00:23:19
ShereeVWatkins
Don't yell at me.
00:23:24
lastyles
That ain't going to change nothing. So I'm going to let them know. At this point in time, you starting to harass me. That's how I feel. Now, mind you, the law says also that the person who's doing the harassment or creating a hostile work environment is not the determiner if they're harassing you or have a hostile work environment. You can't determine if it's a hostile work environment from the person that's creating a hostile work environment. Only the people in the environment can make that determination. That's what it says. If y'all didn't know.
00:23:54
lastyles
Right. So if it's four of us in the office and you feel like you're not creating a hostile work environment, but me walkers and coffee say that you is. Then you are pretty much that's how I go. Then you are clearly you doing something that maybe you don't know that you're doing, but you're doing it. We just letting you know. Now, if you don't advise yourself or re advise yourself on what you're doing and make yourself aware of what you're doing and correct what you're doing.
00:24:19
lastyles
Then that allows me to go to the proper next step because again, I'm trying to do everything proper because I'm trying to win everything I i got every time I go there. Once I go to where I'm going, I'm when they say, yeah, that is harassment. They're going to say, well, I didn't know. I can say I told him it was multiple times. He refused to acknowledge it. He refused to change anything because he thinks he's right. This is why I believe that he should be gone.
00:24:46
lastyles
You know what I'm saying? not Not being retrained because he's a grown man who can read what harassment is. Or he's a grown man who chooses to take a job in management.
00:24:59
lastyles
Why wouldn't you know what harassment is or what a hostile work environment is? At the age of 40, 45, 50, then clearly you don't want to know what it is. I don't believe that you're going to change and I want you removed from the post office.
00:25:11
lastyles
That's what I would say.
00:25:13
ShereeVWatkins
Okay.
00:25:13
lastyles
Me personally. right And if the post office don't remove him, then I feel like at that point in time, if he's allowed to stay, then I need to put paperwork on him again. And then I need to put paperwork on you for allowing him to stay.
Filing an EEO: Steps and Expectations
00:25:28
lastyles
That's just how I it was going to eat. You know what I mean? But I digress. That's what EO, so that's a burden of harassment. Again, discrimination, it could be age, it could be gender, race, ethnicity, a multitude of things. um handicap, disabled, um various levels ah of restrictions.
00:25:47
lastyles
I want want to keep saying various levels ah of restrictions because that's that's what it is. um Not everybody who per se who probably has a restriction is considered disabled or whatever the case is. I don't want to make it seem like I'm talking about people that can't work or whatever the case is, but with various levels of restrictions, right?
00:25:59
ShereeVWatkins
Right.
00:26:02
ShereeVWatkins
Short-term restrictions, getting harassed about doing more or you can do this and that, you know, people know about that with the restrictions, but yet they still feel like, okay, that was an instruction, no, not if you have restrictions.
00:26:03
lastyles
um
00:26:18
ShereeVWatkins
If you can't do it, you can't do it, so how can an instruction make you do it if you just can't do it?
00:26:19
lastyles
Correct.
00:26:22
lastyles
out Listen now, those of you.
00:26:25
ShereeVWatkins
I don't know what he said.
00:26:27
lastyles
On a short note, those of you who have restrictions are to stay within your restrictions. It's a side note. Stay within your restrictions. You can't choose to break your restrictions when you want to break your restrictions and then look at them when they come to ask you to do more work.
00:26:42
lastyles
You feel like, oh no, you're breaking my restrictions. Well, you broke it yesterday when you did 12 hours on the street or you broke it.
00:26:45
ShereeVWatkins
Yep.
00:26:48
lastyles
So once you break your restriction, you almost technically don't even have a valid work restriction anymore.
00:26:48
ShereeVWatkins
Yep.
00:26:51
ShereeVWatkins
Is game open? Yep, is game over?
00:26:54
lastyles
Because you just violated proving that you you no longer need those restrictions. If that makes sense, that you no longer need those restrictions because you're better than that at that point in time. So I would watch that if I was you or any of the those of you out there who has restrictions.
00:27:09
ShereeVWatkins
And it'll hurt you in the long run too, you know, when you, something else happened major and it's like, okay, you know, so yeah, definitely note that and watch that.
00:27:09
Blackknight
Absolutely.
00:27:19
ShereeVWatkins
but If you can't do it, you can't do it.
00:27:23
lastyles
um
00:27:23
Blackknight
I mean, you gotta to understand that, I mean, if you got a restriction, you got a restriction. It shouldn't be, you shouldn't be doing something if you can't do it.
00:27:35
Blackknight
No matter if y'all today, I feel a little, I feel like I can do it. You shouldn't be doing it at all.
00:27:43
ShereeVWatkins
I agree.
00:27:45
lastyles
um so So harassment, discrimination, there's a lot of things that that fall under that. And then you you have the next biggest one would be hostile work environment, right?
00:27:56
lastyles
Under that somewhere also falls ah favoritism and biasness, right?
00:28:00
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
00:28:02
lastyles
That can go into discrimination, but favoritism and biasness, everything has to be fair across the board or that opens up the door for ah some form of discrimination. So favoritism and biasness is also in the EEO, right?
00:28:15
lastyles
Again, if you have any questions, you can call it that number. We'll reiterate that number. Hopefully, if I remember by the end of the show, matter of fact, I'll try to put it in the description. All right, the show's description, so y'all can call that. um that's That's what we'll do.
00:28:29
lastyles
um So, you can start by mail, you can start by phone, you can start online, or you can go to your EEOC office to start your EEOs now.
00:28:43
lastyles
When you do your EEOs, I typically wouldn't start with someone, I felt violated one time and then I want to follow EEO, right? Me personally, because again, I'm looking to get people removed. That's that's my purpose, moved or removed. At this point in time, I think we're beyond having people moved because I think there's a bigger ah bigger issue up top. And I don't think a lot of the, let's say the supervisors don't do things under their own mindset, they're being told to do it, right? So you having that person moved to another station, but they still getting told to do it. They just going to do it at another station. That's going to be my whole argument. Currently, if I was to put EEO on someone, that would be my whole argument in there, which is why I want them removed. Because I don't feel like this person has a mind of their own to not harass me or not create a hostile work environment because they're being told to do it.
00:29:38
lastyles
So if this person can't never be their own man or own woman and stand up with their own mindset, then they're just gonna go somewhere else and do the same thing. So at that point in time, if that person not stand up enough, they should be just removed from the post office. And any supervisor that don't have their own mindset just be removed from the post office. And if they tell me, oh did my manager told, oh, your manager told you, oh, okay, what day was this?
00:30:00
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
00:30:01
lastyles
Yo, what'd they say? Okay, let me go to those supervisors, okay?
00:30:02
ShereeVWatkins
Okay.
00:30:04
lastyles
Got EO on you. Oh, my man. Oh, your manager told you that too. Huh, what? No, take that. now Now I'm going to the manager.
00:30:11
ShereeVWatkins
Oh, man, you're lucky with those.
00:30:12
lastyles
Only takes EO, I need you gone. Now I need the manager. Oh man, listen, that's just how we do things now.
00:30:16
Blackknight
Yes, sir.
00:30:18
lastyles
The CSOM, oh, the CSOM told you to do what? I'm Frank Lucas in this joint all the way up the chain, man. That's what we need to be doing at this point in time. Somebody listen, man.
00:30:30
lastyles
Just like Diddy from the Drop Dimes, I need everybody in the post office to say names.
00:30:32
Blackknight
Yeah, damn. Yeah. they Yeah.
00:30:36
lastyles
name Listen, if you think you're not but about to be named so he can take, listen, they gonna get that man one month off per name.
00:30:38
Blackknight
da Wow.
00:30:42
lastyles
So he got about a thousand names, so listen. Coffee said he wasn't there. I just interviewed Coffee, y'all. He said he wasn't there, even though he got the name Black Knight like he was there. Clearly, the name Black Knight is his poor name.
00:30:51
Blackknight
I wasn't there.
00:30:53
lastyles
Clearly he was there, but he said he ain't on tape, so I can't prove it yet, but stay tuned. We'll do a further investigations.
00:30:58
ShereeVWatkins
ah
00:30:59
lastyles
We'll interview us a couple of other people, see if his names turn up in any documents.
00:31:02
Blackknight
I wasn't there.
00:31:04
ShereeVWatkins
We're
00:31:04
lastyles
I definitely let you guys know if I find this name on documentation.
00:31:08
Blackknight
I mean, y'all gotta, y'all gotta worry about Watkins.
00:31:08
lastyles
ah
00:31:08
ShereeVWatkins
rolling.
00:31:09
lastyles
oh ah
00:31:11
Blackknight
Watkins was in making the band, y'all. So we know if she walked across that bridge before it got there, yay.
00:31:16
ShereeVWatkins
Coffee, you better stop.
00:31:19
Blackknight
look I don't know.
00:31:21
ShereeVWatkins
I don't even eat cheesecake. Actually, I don't even eat cheesecake.
00:31:23
Blackknight
I know. Wait, look, look. Watkins got a beautiful voice. Y'all. Hey, I don't know what she did to be living in it and living in a $10 million dollars mansion right now.
00:31:29
ShereeVWatkins
Coffee.
00:31:33
Blackknight
And she had to release no records. She had to release no records, but she, a she, ah she always, she always very, ah very, very, very lubricated.
00:31:37
ShereeVWatkins
I'm not oily. I'm not oily. the li
00:31:45
Blackknight
So i I'm just saying.
00:31:49
ShereeVWatkins
Hey, L.A., and like cut that off.
00:31:50
Blackknight
They said Diddy has houses everywhere.
00:31:52
ShereeVWatkins
good Cut Coffee Mike off.
00:31:56
lastyles
Hey, man.
00:31:56
ShereeVWatkins
I hate that.
00:31:57
lastyles
Hey, man.
00:31:58
ShereeVWatkins
and
00:31:58
Blackknight
Uh,
00:31:58
lastyles
That's his proof, man.
00:31:58
ShereeVWatkins
ah
00:31:59
lastyles
I don't know. I'm trying to.
00:32:00
ShereeVWatkins
That's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole, that's the whole,
00:32:02
lastyles
I like where this investigation is going.
00:32:03
Blackknight
but
00:32:04
lastyles
You know what I'm saying?
00:32:06
ShereeVWatkins
coffee a got no proof
00:32:07
Blackknight
ah
00:32:08
ShereeVWatkins
it was was getting back on the e
00:32:09
Blackknight
Hey, look, say they say this is, you know, when you, when you barking up the right tree, that's what Diddy has said. You know, when they first rated his own, ain't got no proof.
00:32:16
ShereeVWatkins
coffee is like that was ah This that kind of episode.
00:32:20
Blackknight
I ain't got that proof.
00:32:20
lastyles
Huh?
00:32:20
ShereeVWatkins
episode.
00:32:21
Blackknight
You know what I'm saying?
00:32:22
lastyles
Huh?
00:32:22
ShereeVWatkins
They got some.
00:32:22
Blackknight
Yeah. I can do it.
00:32:23
lastyles
She copping police like Meek Mill.
00:32:25
Blackknight
Yeah.
00:32:26
lastyles
Meek Mill better do what he on Diddy.
00:32:27
Blackknight
Yeah. and Yeah. im going to be I it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:31
lastyles
Listen man, Diddy kept holding my...
00:32:32
Blackknight
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:34
lastyles
Hey man, Diddy kept holding my hands. He said he wasn't gonna release no new tracks unless I did, you know what I'm saying? Whatever I had to do. But now now he gonna be named because he didn't file no paperwork, you know what I'm saying?
00:32:42
Blackknight
yeah
00:32:45
lastyles
So file paperwork.
00:32:47
ShereeVWatkins
Hey, me too.
00:32:47
lastyles
Otherwise, it's like you you was complaining. Your hand up coffee.
00:32:51
Blackknight
Yeah. On a, on a serious note, uh, one thing that makes an EO, uh, become better and, and not saying all, I believe all, you know, are legit, but the difference between one that doesn't seem legit as others is trying to have other people witnesses.
00:32:52
ShereeVWatkins
Oh, go ahead.
00:33:10
Blackknight
The more witnesses you get, the better your case are going to be. Uh, so if you're getting harassed, talk to your neighbor, to your left and to your right.
00:33:19
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
00:33:20
Blackknight
to like, can you, can you just listen out for it?
00:33:22
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
00:33:23
Blackknight
Cause I think they're doing this, they're doing this. So if you have a witness, that's going to help your case. And you know, that's, that will be how you can prove things more than just your word against the other person word.
00:33:36
Blackknight
Uh, you know, and that's all, that's on all spectrums. I mean, uh, managers can put EDOs on their bosses. Supervisors can put it on their manager.
00:33:48
Blackknight
that manager can put it on their, uh, their CSUNs to CSUNs can put it on their post-master, the post-master can put it on your district manager. This is a tool that is, should be used in all cases and all crafts in all positions, because the truth about it is we all should come to a workplace that is safe and free, a zero policy of harassment in any type of form.
00:34:15
Blackknight
that's verbal, that's sexual, that's age discrimination, whatever it may be.
00:34:19
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:21
Blackknight
That's how this workplace should be. And everybody should be able to witness for somebody who's getting done wrong. It shouldn't be, well, I'm afraid they're going to retaliate against me.
00:34:32
Blackknight
Well, guess what? It will be you one day. If you don't say anything, say something and that way you can make your, ah your workplace a better place, but not saying anything is only going to go to make it worse.
00:34:44
Blackknight
And that's where the supervisors were watching another supervisor do it to somebody. One day they might do it to you. And dan what did then you're going to be looking for somebody to say something. So we all need to stick together.
00:35:22
ShereeVWatkins
Hopefully they take that in heat, you know, that's the biggest issue. People don't want to be involved, you know.
00:35:28
lastyles
The other part of that is if there's harassment going on in your station or your plant or ah annex, most likely you're not the only person then, right? If it's a house out work environment, then most likely only doesn't just affect you. So with that said, it shouldn't just be you following the EEO.
00:35:53
lastyles
You know what I'm saying? The other thing to back up, your EEO is other people's EEOs.
00:35:57
ShereeVWatkins
But that's how I be though.
00:35:58
lastyles
If Leonard filed an EEO for house style work environment or harassment, the other thing that backs up to things I'm saying in my EEO is the fact that Watkins has an EEO and it says similar things. And then Coffey has an EEO and it says similar things. Then Fee has an EEO, it says similar things. It's going to be highly unlikely that all four of these people who has these interactions with you just got the same very similar information all in EEOs or 10 to 15 people you all got to remember.
00:36:28
lastyles
We outnumber management like a hundred to one, depending on your size station, 30 to one on average, right?
00:36:33
ShereeVWatkins
Oh. Yep.
00:36:36
lastyles
30 to one, meaning um they can't beat you in a numbers game. Once they do something, they violate multiple people across the board. So yes, it should be multiple people filing these paperwork.
00:36:49
lastyles
You know what I'm saying? air Every time. um Don't say, oh man, well Linda gonna file one, so I ain't gonna file one. I did that. All right, I was in a situation where I did that. Guess what happened?
00:37:00
lastyles
They stopped messing with me, but about everybody else. Everybody else was still getting messed with though.
00:37:04
ShereeVWatkins
I want it.
00:37:07
lastyles
They just didn't mess with me. So me, Fala, didn't help you to a degree. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta you got to put in your paperwork. um But that's where EEO is at, right?
00:37:17
ShereeVWatkins
Oh
1767 Forms: Reporting Safety Issues
00:37:18
lastyles
And then a couple with EEOs, we need to be using 1767s, right? which Which is for safety. Now,
00:37:25
Blackknight
Yes.
00:37:25
lastyles
foot now When I, when I couple these two, let, let me start by saying this before I go on my next part. Right. what Well, I think why we're not using these tools again. So, oh, let me ah go back to y'all add the information with EEOs. Right. When you win your EEO, they're going to ask you what you want. You should know what you want ahead of time. Right. You cannot ask for it. Especially the, don't worry. The specialists are going to tell you this. Right. So I just want you guys to get in your head now that you can't ask for.
00:37:26
ShereeVWatkins
man.
00:37:58
lastyles
something that you're supposed to be getting already anyway, right? So when you will you, I'm gonna give you an example.
00:38:03
ShereeVWatkins
But how would they know that? How would they know, like, would the specialist tell them they options? Like, okay, you can do this, this, this.
00:38:11
lastyles
Nah, because the specialist cannot interfere or try to guide you to an outcome or to a solution, right?
00:38:18
ShereeVWatkins
Okay.
00:38:19
lastyles
So I'm gonna give you an example. The biggest example I can give you on not asking for something that should you should be getting anyway, right? Is to say, well, I want it to stop. Especially going to tell you, don't ask for that.
00:38:30
lastyles
and You can't ask for that because they're not supposed to be doing it anyway. After this outcome, they won't be doing it anyway.
00:38:33
ShereeVWatkins
Right, okay.
00:38:35
Blackknight
X.
00:38:35
lastyles
So why would you ask for something that's going to happen anyway?
00:38:36
ShereeVWatkins
All right.
00:38:39
lastyles
right So in the EEO, typically what you're what you're probably going to be leaning more towards is um settlements. right This is where the payola come in at, which is what I wouldn't ask for.
00:38:50
lastyles
To me, that's first level stuff. This is what this is why a lot of people who have done EEOs On these people on these people was allowed to stay in the post office afterwards, because we settled for money instead of getting them the heck out of here we settle for money. Right, and which is something that we got to stop doing so you can ask for money for payola right you do a settlement. You guys for them to be retrained right, which is the supervisors managers, all of the above you asked for them to be moved to another station.
00:39:22
lastyles
or you could ask for them to be removed from the post office. Now, depending on what's what and what's easier to settle in the group and something just might have to go up to arbitration, right?
00:39:31
ShereeVWatkins
I'm sorry.
00:39:32
lastyles
um Also, when you go in, when they actually scheduled a meeting, they say, you do have a case. They say, no, you got a case. We gonna call. the So once they once they get off the phone with you, right? So so a short process is, you let's say you call, you speak to a representative.
00:39:47
lastyles
They say, you got a case, cool. We need you to go online. create this so and so and so, add whatever information or documents if you have any documents to the case, cool. In the meantime, the next step for us is, not for us, the people, the specialists, they're going to contact your station.
00:40:01
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:02
lastyles
I need to talk to the supervisor, almost like an investigation or the manager, whoever name is on this EEO that you put in the EEO, I need to contact them and ask them about these charges that they finna get. Do they know that they doing this?
00:40:13
lastyles
Was they aware that they doing this? Whatever the case is, has it been brought to their attention? Whatever the case is, Y'all don't gotta worry about that. They gotta do their due diligence on the other side. Cool. Don't change the fact that they done told you you got a case. Now the next step after them, after they talk to whoever gonna be involved, is setting a date. Then they set a date, they gonna meet with you, you, the specialist, the manager, and whoever your representation is, next part, you can choose for it to be a union steward. You could choose for it to be a lawyer. You could choose for it to be a close friend who's knowledgeable. you Your representative is whoever it is that you want it to be.
00:40:45
lastyles
Typically people would choose a union steward or go in with your lawyer if you know that for whatever reason you want money or you plan on suing.
00:40:49
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:52
lastyles
That's the two reasons why I would go in with a lawyer if you think that is it and got to that point is that that is that serious.
00:40:52
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
00:40:59
lastyles
Right? Steward or lawyer? um Then your 1767s is for safety protocols. if You could use 1767, that is a form. ah You could talk to your safety captains or your stewards. Safety captains is probably the most knowledgeable on 1767s. I'm going to keep it real with you. So it's ah there's something that they use in practice consistently because they use it around the station or various circumstances. But it's not just a station tool for management to keep having a leaky ceiling.
00:41:28
lastyles
Managed we got expired fire extinguishers is also meant for other purposes, such as harassment as well. Right. And you could start with that too, by putting management on notice that they're harassing you. Go ahead, coffee. Want to say something?
00:41:42
Blackknight
ah Yes, you can use it for harassment as well if that's management that is ah Other craft employees is still a safety issue We be having safety issues on the route or you having safety issues in your station though it can be used for that also it just don't have to be things like a ah water portal is in the middle of the floor of the station or
00:41:59
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
00:42:07
Blackknight
I like socket is, you know, i'm blinking off and on. It can also be for harassment. It all can also be for if you hear somebody talking, telling ah a a vocal joke and you feel offended about it and you can feel I want as well for that. But because we do have the third party at we meaning that you heard something that wasn't supposed to be heard, but you heard it.
00:42:36
Blackknight
That's also harassment too. You can use that form for that as well.
00:42:41
lastyles
Correct, so if you if you think you have a harassment situation. ah or a possible hostile work environment, which most likely means. most likely that there's harassment in there.
00:42:52
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
00:42:54
lastyles
I will start using the 1767s as well, because once I create my case, I can use those documentations or copies of those documents as my notice, right as my evidence that I have rung this to a management statistician.
00:42:55
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:06
lastyles
I can get rid of the word of mouth because my safety captain know, my union steward know, and I have documentation that was sent to management a month ago, three weeks ago, two weeks ago, and one week ago putting them on notice that this is harassment behavior and they've ignored it.
00:43:20
lastyles
That's evidence for you.
00:43:22
ShereeVWatkins
So, Koffee, you were supposed to be a safety captain at every station.
00:43:29
ShereeVWatkins
because my manager asked me like, well, you could just be the safety captain. So I'm like, no, I don't know nothing about that. I'll point somebody else to or ask somebody else do they want to do it, right?
00:43:36
Blackknight
I mean, it should be one at each station.
00:43:41
ShereeVWatkins
What the hell?
00:43:45
Blackknight
ah Unfortunately, um it's failed to through the cracks.
00:43:45
ShereeVWatkins
Okay.
00:43:51
Blackknight
It's supposed to be a partnership between management, upper management, and the union ah to be able to find that bridge that got to have somebody who knows what's unsafe in a building so they can speak to it
00:44:06
ShereeVWatkins
No, I told you not.
00:44:07
Blackknight
Therefore the management team that's in the building should listen to it. They should almost take it as, this is a warning before I file a 16, seven before I file a official document. So if it should be one of each station, the problem with it is you got to have a person who wants to be able to hold other people accountable.
00:44:31
Blackknight
that's where it first starts at. Most people don't want to tell somebody if somebody outside and they got their truck running and they run back in the station, that person needs to have that personal, uh, conversation with them.
00:44:43
Blackknight
Like that's a no, no, you shouldn't be doing that.
00:44:45
lastyles
Now, as I added on coffee, if I continue, buts my apologies, a safety captain is in between management in the union.
00:44:50
Blackknight
Go ahead.
00:44:53
lastyles
Technically, he or she can bring to the attention on both sides that you're all doing something unsafe.
00:44:55
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
00:44:58
lastyles
It's why coffee just use an example of a carrier doing something.
00:44:59
Blackknight
Correct.
00:45:02
lastyles
Go ahead, coffee.
00:45:04
Blackknight
Correct. I mean, you as a carrier, leave it on ah um a car running while they run back in the building. That's a no, no. You can also, if you, if I feel or the safety captain feels like that a manager is verbally abusing or ah just hounding a particular carrier, that safety captain can intervene and say, I don't believe this is correct. Proper etiquette.
00:45:33
Blackknight
for you to be doing to this person. Now I'm pretty sure that manager supervisor going to be upset about that, but you got to have that kind of brass tacks to be able to say what safety and you can't just want it to title.
00:45:47
Blackknight
You got to be more into like, no, you don't do that. Um, so it's, it got to be a person who's willing to, it's a, it's a job that you're not going to get a lot of notice for it.
00:45:50
ShereeVWatkins
Right.
00:45:59
Blackknight
It is not going to be something that you, you can put it on your resume, but I mean, unless you're a company who want to be safe, that's what's going to happen. I think a lot of times so um what happens is that most stations don't have one because those station managers don't take safety to be um that high on a priority. yeah I'm just going to keep it frank.
00:46:24
Blackknight
Um, both management and the union should want a safety captain in place. He or she should be in place. So it makes your, it makes that place more safe. You should want to other, another eye of accountability. And far as anything, even when, if you don't think you can talk to the union steward, you should be able to go talk to the safety captain about things that you feel that is ah that is unsafe.
00:46:52
Blackknight
If you feel like, I think you said it earlier, where a manager or supervisor making googly eyes at you, you can have that conversation with that safety captain. Like I'm starting to feel a little creeped out by him or her looking at me all the time. They should be able to have that come that uncomfortable conversation. Uh, if somebody's inside of the building whose hygiene is bad,
00:47:18
Blackknight
that falls on the safety that's bothering your, your nose, is making you, on making you unsafe in the building. Cause you can't smell everything. You can have that conversation with your safety to captain. So he can have that conversation with them. And most safety captains try to have things off book, meaning that I try that they'll try to have that conversation with that person before paperwork has to be done. But in some cases, ah like in most cases, paperwork had to be done for most people to be like, Oh, damn.
00:47:46
Blackknight
I do so kind of respect, should respect what he or she is saying. So the safety captain should be in each building. And if not, you if you're a union steward or you just, any craft employee should be talking to your union and to management about why don't we have a person like that? That person is like, I would almost say that person is like the deacon in a church. It's not, it's not, ah it's not a huge world until you need that person to be there. Uh, it's just like, it's like,
00:48:15
Blackknight
the custodian in the building. It's just it's just a paperwork, it's the clerical person of that that way. So I think we should have one in every building and we should want one in every building.
00:48:25
ShereeVWatkins
All right. All right.
00:48:28
Blackknight
And that's from management side and the union side.
00:48:34
lastyles
Okay, cool. So, that's the gist on 1767s and EEOs.
Independence of EEO Specialists
00:48:41
lastyles
Now, if you all need further information, again, you can always go to the EEO website.
00:48:44
Blackknight
i
00:48:48
lastyles
um They do have a website, my bad, my bad, the eeoc.gov, right, and you can look up under there how to file charge of employment discrimination of various things, such as that nature.
00:49:02
lastyles
Also a quick run back on what I was saying, EEO specialists are not a part of management, they are their own entity that was created.
00:49:10
ShereeVWatkins
Okay, thank you.
00:49:12
lastyles
right, to make sure the job stay in check on discrimination, harassment, and hostile work environments, right? They're not with management, they're not with any ah actual business, right?
00:49:23
lastyles
And once any business hit, I believe, 100 employees, they will have to start a buying by the EEOC protocols once they get of a certain size.
00:49:24
Blackknight
correct.
00:49:33
lastyles
So this goes for all businesses. This ain't just for the post office. It's for all all businesses that have to abide by this type of thing. Go ahead, Kofi.
00:49:43
Blackknight
I'll just I was just saying I know we hadn't we hadn't found me. McNeil had made a personal appearance but I thought I saw McNeil's in the back of Watkins uh uh You know, wherever she had hiding out it.
00:49:56
Blackknight
It's a little dark back there. Watkins. I don't know if you got you hiding me.
00:49:58
ShereeVWatkins
I'm at, I know, no, I'm at home.
00:50:01
lastyles
Yeah, he you he was taking the boxes lotion out back so he can bury them.
00:50:02
Blackknight
Okay.
00:50:02
ShereeVWatkins
I just got my, like, Sam, Samuel was cooking, so.
00:50:03
Blackknight
okay oh
00:50:08
lastyles
So just in case, just in case that they break in. had But how'd your baby oil? Remember that one Fast and Furious? When Tyreese told me about rock controller.
00:50:19
lastyles
Hey me, but how'd your baby oil?
00:50:21
ShereeVWatkins
Okay, stay, y'all.
00:50:21
lastyles
He totally told Tyreese, you better hide that big ass forehead.
00:50:27
Blackknight
for real.
00:50:28
ShereeVWatkins
I don't know.
00:50:28
lastyles
wo
00:50:29
ShereeVWatkins
Sam cooking, so.
00:50:30
lastyles
Felicia, now Phoebe, Phoebe definitely be shiny as as a joint. Felicia got probably the most, I don't wanna say lubricant, cause I don't want to mean sexual.
00:50:37
ShereeVWatkins
Don't you dare.
00:50:40
lastyles
You know what I'm saying? Cause that could be lubricant. Listen, we gon' move forward.
00:50:44
Fee
Don't start with me. don but Don't.
00:50:45
lastyles
You know what I'm saying?
00:50:46
ShereeVWatkins
I know that's why I'm so glad you, see you hear that?
00:50:47
lastyles
Listen.
00:50:49
ShereeVWatkins
You hear that?
00:50:49
Fee
Don't start with me.
00:50:53
lastyles
Phoebe, you be shiny though, I'm just saying.
00:50:55
Fee
but
00:50:55
lastyles
Listen, you're a woman, so I'm not, you know what I'm saying?
00:50:57
Fee
I can't help it.
00:50:58
lastyles
It is what it is. You can, you just...
00:51:00
ShereeVWatkins
They want you to be assy.
00:51:03
Blackknight
And that's what Diddy said.
00:51:03
lastyles
Listen, I'm just saying, if anybody with over, and anybody,
00:51:06
ShereeVWatkins
Why you put those shades on?
00:51:10
lastyles
because he's pleading the fifth, you know what I'm saying?
00:51:12
ShereeVWatkins
Oh, man.
00:51:14
lastyles
Anybody with over 10 bottles of some type of lube in their house right now, probably going to get the reco. I'm just letting you know. So if you might want to throw a bottle out, flush the bottle down the toilet. If you got 10 or more, they're probably coming.
00:51:28
lastyles
so
00:51:28
ShereeVWatkins
They'd last for a long time.
00:51:29
Blackknight
Watch out, Watson.
00:51:30
ShereeVWatkins
I didn't.
00:51:30
Blackknight
They coming.
00:51:32
lastyles
Look, but, but look, this is how you counter that. When you go, when you show up at court, just go to court ashy. I will click. Listen, y'all can look at me. I don't use Lou. You know what I'm saying? I don't know who that was.
00:51:43
lastyles
Clearly somebody did you trying to set me up? You know what I'm saying? I've never been to a party. I'm not in the video. I don't know where that came from. I don't even use lotion or Jurgens or baby oil, Vaseline, whatever it is that y'all use.
00:51:56
ShereeVWatkins
Well, I hope ain't nobody using nothin' Johnson Johnson, but that's a whole nothin' thing.
00:51:56
lastyles
So I,
00:52:01
lastyles
I mean, depending on what you're gonna afford.
00:52:03
ShereeVWatkins
It don't matter. You can't afford cancer, that's for dang-o, sir.
00:52:05
lastyles
We just came out the pandemic. You lucky it ain't water, something we just...
00:52:08
Blackknight
he did yeah
00:52:08
ShereeVWatkins
I knew was weird, like...
00:52:09
Blackknight
you also I mean, all that baby boy, he been putting on people. That was Johnson and Johnson. i i that's That's why you got out of making the band.
00:52:17
lastyles
He kept him in business. Look, you know what he should do? He, he, he should say, he should say, listen, none of this is new, right?
00:52:23
ShereeVWatkins
hit
00:52:27
lastyles
I stocked up on baby oil during the COVID. You know what I'm saying? That's what he should say.
00:52:31
Blackknight
way During the pandemic.
00:52:32
lastyles
Listen, we couldn't go outside like that. You know what I'm saying? I got to make appearances and a lot of stores shut down. So one time I went in Walmart and I just bought as many bottles of lube as I could just in case. Cause I ain't know we going to come back outside.
00:52:44
lastyles
You know what I'm saying? So I got like a lifetime supply, like a bunker.
00:52:45
ShereeVWatkins
yeah
00:52:47
lastyles
You know what I'm saying? I got canned goods back there.
00:52:47
ShereeVWatkins
i
00:52:48
lastyles
I ain't used. I got a lot of, uh, ah Whatever, you know what I'm saying? That's what you need to do. That's what I say. I bought this during COVID, man. I just had this in COVID and I just ain't use it yet.
00:52:56
ShereeVWatkins
they they ah but They are about to arc Kelly, that boy. I don't think he's going to get out. Like, even from that denial, that's a whole other
Holding Management Accountable
00:53:07
ShereeVWatkins
thing. but they and They arrested Bill Cosby.
00:53:11
lastyles
Man, let's...
00:53:11
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah, he outta here.
00:53:13
Blackknight
That didn't be around.
00:53:15
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah, they did, but at least he out, though, so.
00:53:18
Blackknight
I just want to know, are they going to put him and R.
00:53:19
lastyles
don't don't
00:53:21
Blackknight
Kelly in the same jail?
00:53:22
ShereeVWatkins
Where is R.
00:53:23
lastyles
I don't think they can.
00:53:23
ShereeVWatkins
Kelly?
00:53:25
Blackknight
Hey, look, i like all I know is if they put him or Kelly in the same jail, they better make some hell of live music. You got to produce a writer and a singer.
00:53:34
lastyles
No, this is what I'm gonna say though. This is all I'm saying. If they in the same jail or Kelly run the jail, did he?
00:53:49
ShereeVWatkins
he'd have been there long
00:53:50
lastyles
R. Kelly, R. Kelly, nah. Diddy's name ain't never gonna be up there with R.
00:53:53
ShereeVWatkins
I'm not, I'm not.
00:53:55
lastyles
Kelly. He made a lot of money. His name ain't up there with, I think, I think Kel's got a level of respect in the jail that Diddy wouldn't.
00:54:02
ShereeVWatkins
I mean, he should have that now, but.
00:54:03
lastyles
Diddy been on camera hey kicking chicks and whatnot, man.
00:54:06
ShereeVWatkins
I just think they.
00:54:07
lastyles
Like they gonna have to fool on Diddy. R. Kelly might save him though. R. Kelly might have the power inside to save him. Like, hey man, just, hey Diddy, come over under.
00:54:12
ShereeVWatkins
I guess.
00:54:14
Blackknight
ka ill say You ain't saved me when I was up in here. So, hey, come on.
00:54:17
ShereeVWatkins
Nah, they double Jeopardy, ah R.
00:54:19
Fee
Okay.
00:54:21
ShereeVWatkins
Kelly for real. Y'all should have charged them for that shit 20 years ago.
00:54:22
lastyles
yeah well
00:54:25
ShereeVWatkins
I don't want to hear that. Y'all put a documentary out there and he's a nigga going to jail for the same shit he done did 20 years ago, just like they did OJ. They couldn't get them for, they couldn't catch them for that first one.
00:54:39
ShereeVWatkins
Didn't give them 30 for taking, that's something else, but.
00:54:43
Blackknight
I got, I got a question.
00:54:44
lastyles
No,
00:54:44
Blackknight
I got a question. What is, are you in hiding because you believe that you was part of and you going to be charged in this Rico case with a Diddy and that's why you and I didn't know.
00:54:48
lastyles
but...
00:54:55
ShereeVWatkins
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, I'm always, hey, I ain't hard to find.
00:54:59
Blackknight
Okay.
00:55:02
ShereeVWatkins
I ain't done no action.
00:55:03
Blackknight
Yeah.
00:55:04
ShereeVWatkins
And coffee get up off me, so.
00:55:04
Blackknight
All right.
00:55:08
ShereeVWatkins
I don't know, I'm telling you, you got some little shades in your hand.
00:55:11
Blackknight
You, you, you, you, you see fee hide. She definitely had Puerto Rico charges.
00:55:17
ShereeVWatkins
She ain't ducking, no action.
00:55:20
lastyles
Listen, I'm gonna tell y'all, before, before Fi hopped on the show today, she gonna text me and ask me, do I got a voice changer for her?
00:55:20
ShereeVWatkins
See where you at?
00:55:27
ShereeVWatkins
I wanted a voice changer too. Like, I mean,
00:55:31
Blackknight
Why?
00:55:32
ShereeVWatkins
because LA be trying to have this little dark, he be having this little, or, you know, like, okay.
00:55:33
lastyles
Because you did, because, because they did some, that's why.
00:55:37
Fee
We do nothing.
00:55:38
lastyles
They did some, they did some, that's why.
00:55:44
ShereeVWatkins
There I that at first, I said, oh, no.
00:55:45
lastyles
and good The first time Fi came in here,
00:55:48
ShereeVWatkins
other
00:55:50
lastyles
That's what her title said.
00:55:51
ShereeVWatkins
i
00:55:53
Blackknight
What?
00:55:54
lastyles
Guess 1576.
00:55:56
ShereeVWatkins
I know that's my thing.
00:55:57
Fee
for
00:55:58
Blackknight
Well, I tell you.
00:55:58
lastyles
It's like an inmate number. So she already get mentally prepared that she going down.
00:56:03
Blackknight
you.
00:56:05
lastyles
She know she going down.
00:56:06
Blackknight
See, I already know it.
00:56:06
lastyles
She know she going down. Yeah, she get ready.
00:56:08
Blackknight
See, I already telling the feds what her number is.
00:56:10
lastyles
Inmate 1576, just go ahead and put that on my joint.
00:56:11
ShereeVWatkins
yeah
00:56:12
lastyles
You know what I'm saying?
00:56:13
Fee
You're not ignorant, man.
00:56:14
lastyles
Because I got too much oil to hide.
00:56:14
Blackknight
Yeah, I did.
00:56:15
ShereeVWatkins
I promise, buddy. Look.
00:56:19
lastyles
I got too much oil to hide, so I don't have to go down.
00:56:20
ShereeVWatkins
i
00:56:23
lastyles
But but all ah jokes aside, yeah, that but that's the general of what EEOs and 1767s are now. Well, OK, I give it to the to the group. Why y'all don't think we use EEOs or 1767s as much as we should be using them as a postal service?
Why EEOs are Underused
00:56:39
Blackknight
I'll tell you why.
00:56:39
ShereeVWatkins
I personally think, uh, hold on coffee, let me take this real quick. I think they're not, they're not encouraged enough.
00:56:44
Blackknight
Go ahead. Go ahead. Do your thing.
00:56:49
ShereeVWatkins
People, a lot of people won't tell you about them. You know, I found thought about EO's through someone else and it was just like, damn.
00:57:01
ShereeVWatkins
You know, people don't tell you like, okay, it can be the worst situation. And they'll call, maybe they'll call the union or talk to their steward and stuff like that. And then it's like, okay, they don't try to file a grievance that he just going straight for the juggler because the situation be that bad. So people think just like typical workroom harassment. Oh, we'll just file a grievance. That's not an EEO.
00:57:32
ShereeVWatkins
They think it's on a whole other level and they really don't know about it. I don't think they talk about it enough. you know I didn't tell several people about it and they like, damn, I can do it like, yeah, I didn't know that either. What you think? I mean, they don't say it enough. We hear a lot of grieving, grieving, but we don't really hear a lot of that. With the worst managers,
00:58:01
ShereeVWatkins
you know
00:58:04
Blackknight
I think the reason we don't use it ah enough is because, A, like you said, it's not talked about enough and it' not it's not a tool that we tell people to put in a toolbox.
00:58:12
ShereeVWatkins
Right.
00:58:17
Blackknight
Number two, I believe that we have got, I think everybody has got two too saturated with, with allowing bad behavior to exist.
00:58:31
Blackknight
We're learning how to be able to live with bad behavior other than, you know what I'm saying? Making sure that bad behavior doesn't, we got Stockholm syndrome. We were just starting to be okay with somebody treating us any kind of way, which shouldn't be what it is.
00:58:42
ShereeVWatkins
Alright. Alright.
00:58:48
Blackknight
And third, I believe I don't,
00:58:50
Fee
Okay, Eric.
00:58:53
Blackknight
I don't think any union person I have ever talked to have said, I'll take that back.
00:58:57
ShereeVWatkins
Alright.
00:59:01
Blackknight
I know one, uh, the only, I don't even know one person who won't say you should maybe think about it. EO is not a tool that we use ah enough.
00:59:14
Blackknight
Certain situations don't, you shouldn't have to use it, but a lot of situations you should, and therefore, we find ourselves in position and in positions where carriers have to behave badly. And that's when we start saying, Oh, we should have did this. Well, we should do it from the beginning. You got anything for you?
00:59:35
Fee
No, keep going.
00:59:38
Blackknight
I just, I just think it's one of those two that we don't want to use it for just because you feel upset.
00:59:40
Fee
know
00:59:46
Blackknight
It's not something if you get your feelings hurt.
00:59:46
ShereeVWatkins
True. I agree. I agree because some cases people be like, well, he did this. That's the EEO. It's like, no, that's just maybe a dignity and respect. Maybe just, you know, maybe they just need to get checked. Let them know that, you know, you got them on notice about that. I ain't going to tolerate that. You ain't going to talk to me any kind of way or whatever the situation may be. But You know, I think it's just kind of a little unbalanced there.
01:00:14
ShereeVWatkins
Like I said, you know, people really don't talk about it this much. Not saying, I don't know if it steps on the union toes when people reach out and go that other step, but some people have to.
01:00:28
ShereeVWatkins
Some people file the same grievances on manage the same person. It can be the same thing.
01:00:33
Fee
ah
01:00:33
Blackknight
Correct.
01:00:33
ShereeVWatkins
And it's just like, come on now. Like what now, you know, if this was happening, we are in the real world, but we are federal as well. And it's like, okay, that's a lawsuit.
01:00:45
ShereeVWatkins
That's all you thinking about. Okay, this is a lawsuit. This says not to do this in the contract, they still doing it, but they're telling me to do this. I probably should have done that.
01:00:58
ShereeVWatkins
You know, goes back to a lot of people just, you know, just always ask questions.
01:01:00
Blackknight
correct
01:01:06
ShereeVWatkins
No question is a dumb question. I don't give a crap.
01:01:09
Blackknight
Never.
01:01:09
ShereeVWatkins
Always ask questions. I ask so many questions. I don't care if I asked you before. I didn't get it before. I'm going to ask.
01:01:18
Blackknight
ah yeah and you gotta to be And you gotta stop being afraid to be a person who know your rights.
01:01:19
ShereeVWatkins
and
01:01:24
Blackknight
You need to know your rights. That's the first that's where it started first. You need to know that an employee can't treat you a certain type of way. Also, you need to be able to understand and communicate like what I can say to other people about should this be happening to me?
01:01:41
Fee
Thank you.
01:01:44
Blackknight
Should somebody be able to do this to me because I'm in a lesser role? I'm not in a power dynamic that they are. So asking questions, like she said, is the most critical position that you want to be in.
01:01:56
Blackknight
Because if you ask people questions, they'll tell you that and you can look and you want to be able to look at their face and know If that's something somebody should be able to do to you or not, they, you would know that right off the jump.
01:02:08
Blackknight
If somebody said, Oh, I have a supervisor who every time my, my, my back is turned, he comes and, you know, rubs against me, even though it was enough room for him not to touch me.
01:02:23
Blackknight
You're going to see everybody face go like, are you serious?
01:02:26
ShereeVWatkins
Right, right.
01:02:27
Blackknight
Uh, you are, you know, I, I like to tell people. Because I don't use profanity. um Profanity is harassment.
01:02:37
Fee
You use it, but you use it in a different type of form.
Profanity as Harassment
01:02:41
Blackknight
See, do I use the profanity words?
01:02:46
Fee
To me, those are propensity words, sir.
01:02:48
Blackknight
I do not use profanity.
01:02:48
Fee
But okay, I'm gonna let you have it. I'm gonna let you have it.
01:02:53
Blackknight
ah Just because I substitute, he it shows great restraint.
01:02:56
Fee
um
01:02:58
Blackknight
um but
01:03:00
ShereeVWatkins
All
01:03:01
Blackknight
If somebody is using profanity to to you and towards you, you have the right to be like, hey, excuse me, please don't talk to me that way.
01:03:05
ShereeVWatkins
right. All right.
01:03:12
Blackknight
I feel offended that way. You know, tap somebody to your left or right and you make sure that they can hear you and you'll be able to respond like, OK, that's what you think. That's an EO.
01:03:23
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah, you in the middle.
01:03:25
Blackknight
And anything, any other thing that you have
01:03:33
Blackknight
anything else you have walking on any other harassment thing that you can think about that you can share so that I know what's harassment or what's not.
01:03:39
ShereeVWatkins
Okay. Yeah.
01:03:43
ShereeVWatkins
I mean, just just like, you know, you gotta to start from the basics. The way of a person talk to you, you know, the way you're being treated. You know, you got a people situation, okay, this person, why they doing this to this person and treat me like that.
01:03:54
Blackknight
All right.
01:04:00
ShereeVWatkins
It can be on any different level. You know, it can be some petty ass, okay, this carrier outside smoking right here, but when I come outside and smoke, it's an issue.
01:04:12
ShereeVWatkins
You know, you just got to watch your back with management and, you know, be a part of the winning team. You know, whoever and for the fight, whoever, you know, just not going to sit there and just let anything go on.
01:04:21
Blackknight
um Yes.
01:04:27
ShereeVWatkins
Because that's very important. Because like Koffee said earlier, you know, you can be that person. You know, hey, they don't discriminate with that.
01:04:36
Blackknight
yes
01:04:38
ShereeVWatkins
Anybody can get it. So, you know, Ask questions and, you know, even if, you know, it's been situations where a person is saying this and that and they still might not do a statement or whatever.
01:04:43
Blackknight
Absolutely.
01:04:54
ShereeVWatkins
Don't think it stops there.
01:04:58
Blackknight
Correct.
01:04:58
ShereeVWatkins
That's when the place should be harder. You know, your word is bond. Just think about it that way. You know, I'm the type is like, OK, you ain't got to write a statement, but I'm going to put it in there that you were there because that's my detailed statement.
01:05:12
ShereeVWatkins
You were there. You was probably five feet away. So, you gonna get in this regardless. Whether you want to or not. Now if they ask you about it, you can lie and say, oh, I ain't see nothing. That's what you can do.
01:05:28
ShereeVWatkins
but but you were here, so that's just it. Don't be afraid to say something in or just ask somebody or if that person, if you feel you ask somebody something, and it's like, okay, he telling me some bull crap.
01:05:43
ShereeVWatkins
Go to another person, Google stuff, read, listen, audio, you know however you get your information or can't understand it is important.
01:05:46
Blackknight
Yes.
01:05:55
Blackknight
Correct.
01:05:55
ShereeVWatkins
You know, we gotta stop this work harassment. We gotta stop um just thinking everything is a simple grievance. If you gotta take that extra step, you have to take that extra step because it's happening to you.
01:06:09
Fee
Sometimes I think, too, not that they're not knowledgeable. Sometimes they just sweep it under the rug. And i I know I find that a lot up here, where I've told them to put EOs on management.
01:06:22
Fee
And they don't.
01:06:23
ShereeVWatkins
But they be fearful feet.
01:06:24
Fee
They're scared.
01:06:24
ShereeVWatkins
They be kind of, yeah, they do.
01:06:25
Fee
Exactly. They're scared to do it. For some odd reason. But if you want change, you gotta move forward and go and start putting the paperwork on management so that either you can get them removed, get some type of discipline, put on them because they don't hesitate to do it to us.
01:06:32
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
01:06:44
ShereeVWatkins
Put them on notice.
01:06:44
Blackknight
what you got to understand is that what are what are you afraid of? You already been treated badly, right? You can't be afraid of the obvious. They're going to treat you any type of way they want to. The only way you can ever say, Hey, this is not the way I want to be treated is saying by with your paperwork.
01:07:11
Blackknight
If you allow somebody to treat you a certain way, how can you be mad about the way they treat you?
01:07:12
ShereeVWatkins
All
01:07:17
Blackknight
Send bands.
01:07:17
ShereeVWatkins
right.
01:07:18
Blackknight
If you're silent, you are complicit to the behavior and layman's term that you're okay with the way they're treating you when that's not the way they should be treating you.
01:07:29
Blackknight
They should be treating you like an adult, like a person, like a human being that should be respected, heard from. That's how they should be treating.
01:07:40
Blackknight
you Doesn't mean that everything that they say is wrong. It doesn't mean everything that you access wrong. Everybody has a job. Everybody's supposed to be doing a job. It's the way that they talk to you.
01:07:51
Blackknight
It's the way it's not, it's what they say to you.
01:07:54
ShereeVWatkins
. . .
01:07:54
Blackknight
They can have, they can tell you, look, you're the point that you're trying to get across is not violent. I need you to go. I need you to go throw, if you're a clerk, I need you to go make sure you throw them packages.
01:08:05
Blackknight
If you're a carrier, I understand what you're saying. Guess what? Once you, when you come back tomorrow, you can ask for union time and then you can try to get your steward to file agreements.
01:08:16
ShereeVWatkins
All right, all right.
01:08:17
Blackknight
That's, that's not harassment, but if they come up here and tell you, man, shit, shit, the blank, blank, blank, blank up. I don't want to hear a blank, blank, blank, blank thing. You see it. That's a different story.
01:08:27
Blackknight
than That's discrimination. That's harassment. That has been, you know, nobody should be talking to you in that type of way. Nobody should be belittling you in that type of way. You shouldn't be a person that's being talked to that type of way. So one thing I'll always, uh, echo to each and every person is you are, you are somebody and you should be treated like somebody. And that's the best way I can ever tie a bow to it. And sometimes we, we get to, to the mindset of whole,
01:09:01
Blackknight
If I don't do it, if I do it, they're going to feel, they're going to make me feel bad. Okay. You already feel bad because they're they're doing it to you already. So, you know, let's be less fearful of a short term, uh, situation.
01:09:16
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
01:09:17
Blackknight
Cause you're in a long-term situation already for the next however many months to years, you're going to be there with that person.
01:09:21
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah. Yeah.
01:09:24
Blackknight
They're going to continue to treat you that way. Do you want to be treated that way or do you want to be treated with, with dignity and respect? Sophie, yeah what what things do they say they're fearful of when they say they don't want to do one?
01:09:39
Fee
Okay, so I got an instance where I told one of my carriers to follow EEO on the management. Well, I'm scared that they're going to retaliate on me and do worse things to me than what they're already doing. And like I like I explained to the carrier.
01:09:55
Fee
They can't do that. You document everything. Every time they come to you and say something that they shouldn't be saying, every time that they make rude gestures towards you, anything.
01:10:06
Fee
You document that. You put paperwork and have a paper trail on everything that they're doing.
01:10:09
Blackknight
Yes.
01:10:11
Fee
So when you file an EO, you got a list of things that they done. And you can either get them about the station, get them retrained, get them fired, anything. Get them removed.
01:10:24
Fee
anything but you can't be afraid to put paperwork on management because they're not afraid to put it on us.
01:10:31
Blackknight
That's true. One, one thing I always say, and I say this to management a lot, cause you know,
01:10:34
ShereeVWatkins
All right.
01:10:37
Blackknight
A lot of times we not understanding, a lot of craft employees don't understand. Management is under a lot of pressures, Will, in the same way that craft employees feel like they're attacked, management feel like they're attacked. I would say this to management. man You're going to continue to get attacked if you're if you somebody is telling you to do something that you shouldn't be doing, right? They're telling you to you know sound harass and abuse the craft.
01:11:08
Blackknight
The one thing I will tell you change is not going to be easy, but it's necessary. So as a management and management part and part of the management team, one thing you need to know is that you didn't sign up to be to overuse your power or to abuse your power.
01:11:27
Blackknight
So you should be saying, okay, how do I turn around and put an EO on my upper management?
01:11:31
ShereeVWatkins
Thank you.
01:11:35
Blackknight
And I know a lot of people gonna say, Oh, that's career suicide. You're already in a situation that's going to continue to get worse. Continue to get worse. Craft employees. If you do not say something, it will continue to get worse.
01:11:58
Blackknight
Nothing is going to change if you do nothing. I'm not going to tell you it's going to change overnight. I will be lying to you. What I can tell you is change is like a snowball rolling down a, a snow, a mountain. It doesn't look like something when you let it go, but as it builds up more and more snow, it will be an avalanche. So we have to start somewhere so we can stop people from talking to us and treating us.
01:12:31
Blackknight
ah any type of way. The best way to do it is to be able to come in and have a productive conversation in the EEOC process.
01:12:38
ShereeVWatkins
Okay.
01:12:44
Blackknight
It is there for us to be able to talk about issues and get those issues out.
01:12:52
Blackknight
Sometimes we have supervisors and management behaving badly. because of a lot of different reasons. The most, the most notable reason is I'm trying to impress my boss. And so I get a little, you know, a little too, too mouthy. We need to be able to do better than that. And I know we can do better than that. Um, that's, that's from craft. That's for management. We have to treat each other the way we should be treated.
01:13:22
lastyles
Mmm. Is that how you feel?
01:13:24
Blackknight
I mean, absolutely. I mean, we're not going to get better. Because you got to ask yourself if you're in this for a year, then you don't care.
01:13:29
ShereeVWatkins
And then you are your site.
01:13:34
Blackknight
I understand why you wouldn't care if you in this, so you can buy a new car and then you're going to get out of it. I understand why you don't care. But for them, for the majority of us, we're in here for the long haul.
01:13:50
Blackknight
We're in here for retirement. We're in here to make sure our families can have a better life. Perfect. to provide a life worth living. And therefore we must provide a company that's worth being a part of.
01:14:07
Blackknight
And that's to each and every person. That's not only to management, that's not only to craft employees, that's not only to clerks, not only to ah custodians, carriers, material handlers, a four-foot driver, truck drivers. That is to each and every man and woman who say they are proud to be a United States Postal Service member. The mission is to be able to go out and provide great community service toward these communities, to be able to be counted on to do the things that we need to do. That's the call. That's the mission. The mission is bigger than you. The greatest thing we can do is be accountable for our behavior. And what I will say to management,
01:14:58
Blackknight
abusing your power is only telling me that you're a very small person.
01:15:05
Blackknight
When you entrusted with power, you should be using it for good. Just because you're in a position today to be able to say, go do this, go do this does don't confuse that as that, that means that you're somebody great. Great leaders work for their people to make their people look better. And when your people look better,
01:15:34
Blackknight
just from their, from their success, you're going to look better. So you shouldn't, eo the EEO, the EEOC process shouldn't be taken to place. It should be in any workplace.
01:15:45
Blackknight
You shouldn't want to even have and one employee believe that they have to do that.
01:15:45
ShereeVWatkins
Hello.
01:15:49
Blackknight
But if they do, we want them to know that is their federal right.
01:15:55
Blackknight
And we should not handle the process. If you, if some, if a person put charges on you, guess what you should do? Tell the truth. And if you did it, Be there be a man and a woman and say I did this but I'm gonna do better Yes
01:16:10
lastyles
Okay. So I miss, I miss part, right? So, so, so in short, what, what was your reason for why you believe as in your opinion, that we, that they don't use the EEO and 1767 in, in, in the more extreme ways.
Union's Role in EEOs and 1767s
01:16:28
lastyles
Cause I told you both me and coffee, both extremists of the group, he typically more violent extremists.
01:16:32
Blackknight
right
01:16:33
Fee
Okay.
01:16:34
lastyles
I'm typically more. push you to the edge. So I would like push you to the edge, like to get you to do something, as long as it was legal, I will put you, I will push you to the edge of the cliff, which is not illegal, right? But I'm willing to take you that far to prove a point. Coffee would definitely push you off the ledge and then take a piece of the ledge and throw it down on top of you just to make sure that you ain't getting up. That's coffee.
01:17:01
lastyles
And he don't care if that part is legal or not. So we both extremists. we just We just two different type of extremes. So I miss it i miss his ah his opinion or his, yeah.
01:17:11
Blackknight
Well, the first reason, I mean, I don't think they, anybody mentioned it to you until you're so frustrated. It's not, it's not so a tool that they give you to put in your toolbox.
01:17:23
Blackknight
Number one, you don't, most people don't know it, that it is. Number two, I don't know if the union don't want us to use it or if the union just don't think.
01:17:30
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah. Yeah.
01:17:35
Blackknight
They should come to that. So I'm not going to say the union don't want us to use it, but I don't think the union ever publicizes it to the whole like a if this situation just becomes so problematic that we should be using this. I don't think that they come down and say, hey, this is going to be problematic. I agree with the process is not going to be the greatest process for this. You should go do it. Not saying they don't say that. I just hadn't heard what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure they believe in the process as well.
01:18:04
Blackknight
But I think the problem is I believe it's too many damn scary people.
01:18:13
lastyles
and what what was And what was yours, Watkins?
01:18:13
Blackknight
I'm just going to be honest with you.
01:18:17
lastyles
Did Watkins say?
01:18:17
ShereeVWatkins
i I mean, you you can't really take the the fear out of people. I don't understand.
01:18:26
ShereeVWatkins
but I get it, but I just don't understand. It's like, to get treated like that on any kind of level, I don't care what it is this or... Now, some people in the union encouraged me to like, okay, Cherie, that's the EO, you know.
01:18:44
ShereeVWatkins
I wouldn't say everybody did that, but some, so.
01:18:48
ShereeVWatkins
It's just, it's really important though, you know, sometimes you gotta to take that extra step
01:18:48
lastyles
Okay.
01:18:57
lastyles
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
01:19:00
Fee
Yeah, i said I said because they're scared.
01:19:01
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
01:19:04
Fee
It's like they they they feel like they're intimidated or if they put an EO on management, that management is going to go and retaliate.
01:19:14
lastyles
and and didn
01:19:18
lastyles
Oh, OK. So um let me let me preface this yeah before I go off.
01:19:23
Blackknight
I thought it was second too, but yeah, she's still safe.
01:19:27
lastyles
What happened? She got found. ah thought I thought the ray hit it already. OK.
01:19:37
lastyles
OK. So did you tell me what what happened? What did I miss?
01:19:41
Blackknight
ah She was just saying that she found out she wasn't in none of them tapes. So she know they ain't coming for her feast fee fee don't know yet. fee. That's why fee ain't exposing her face yet because fee said she don't want them to know where she at. She land low somewhere. She's somewhere in, you know, in a Colorado somewhere.
01:20:01
Fee
um at home um' I'm at home writing grievances for Article
01:20:02
lastyles
If I see any video, and but if i if i see any and if I see any of the videos that come out and they don't show the woman up a torso but her thighs were up together, that was fee.
01:20:02
ShereeVWatkins
If they were Oh God, I got an article 14
01:20:16
Fee
that but but
01:20:17
lastyles
I'm telling y'all now, that's my sister.
01:20:18
Fee
but ah
01:20:21
lastyles
Especially if it's blue pants with a dark blue stripe on the side, if you see a hole inside or whatever, or the thighs rubbing together, that's fee.
01:20:26
Blackknight
Yeah, I do.
01:20:28
lastyles
And she had on postal plans, clearly. I'm just letting y'all know now.
01:20:30
Blackknight
Yup.
01:20:30
lastyles
So keep a lookout for us. Let us know in the comment section below. If you you see this all online somewhere, make sure you tag us. Hashtag postalblue. A, Cass, we found her.
01:20:40
ShereeVWatkins
And they don't know.
01:20:42
lastyles
Here she go.
01:20:42
ShereeVWatkins
and
01:20:42
lastyles
You know what I'm saying?
01:20:43
ShereeVWatkins
And they don't know right where we at because of coffee and we did anything.
01:20:45
lastyles
Yeah.
01:20:46
Blackknight
Hey.
01:20:48
lastyles
Kofi said he got to clear himself because he might've been in one of them.
01:20:48
Blackknight
Look, and I wasn't in that at all.
01:20:51
lastyles
So Kofi trying to get, Kofi doing the right thing.
01:20:51
ShereeVWatkins
You know, he.
01:20:52
lastyles
He trying to get out in front of her. Hey, I'm going to start snitching now before they come get me.
01:20:57
ShereeVWatkins
That's that.
01:20:57
lastyles
You know what I'm saying?
01:20:57
ShereeVWatkins
That's that. Yeah, big big woody right there.
01:20:58
lastyles
Let me, let me throw people in front of you.
01:20:59
Blackknight
that But first of all, first of all, me and Woody is not like, I tell everybody I am.
01:21:01
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
01:21:01
lastyles
You know what I'm saying?
01:21:07
Blackknight
I am a, I am a very upstanding law abiding man. If you do something with me that you don't want the authority to know, you might not want to do it to me.
01:21:18
Blackknight
I don't break laws.
01:21:18
ShereeVWatkins
um
01:21:20
Blackknight
I don't break laws.
01:21:20
ShereeVWatkins
ah
01:21:21
Blackknight
i
01:21:21
ShereeVWatkins
face
01:21:22
Blackknight
I'm gonna tell you Ray. I look the police and ain't gotta come look for me If you think I'm a part of something just come over here to drive up like hey you you have something to do with that Nope, I don't I didn't have nothing to do with that But I saw when uh when Watkins went in there bought that 15 bottles of baby.
01:21:38
ShereeVWatkins
Hey, extra, extra information.
01:21:38
Blackknight
Well, I saw that Look
01:21:41
ShereeVWatkins
They asked you one question. Did you have anything to do with it?
01:21:44
Blackknight
Look
01:21:45
ShereeVWatkins
I, you know, coffee,
01:21:46
lastyles
but But you gotta get a full answer though, you know what I'm saying?
01:21:47
ShereeVWatkins
It's over. it is a
01:21:49
lastyles
Sometimes you gotta give a full answer.
01:21:49
Blackknight
Yeah, look
01:21:51
ShereeVWatkins
He just added some information.
01:21:53
Blackknight
Look, the more, them more the Look, they already at my door.
01:21:53
ShereeVWatkins
But I seen her do this. I know you did.
01:21:59
Blackknight
I don't need my neighbors knowing that the police like to frequent my my address. So look, I got to get them all the information. You ain't got to come back. Uh, I will it look, all I ask for them to testify is the, is the boot, you know, a great suit and, um, and some, and some fruit.
01:22:16
ShereeVWatkins
we where We're here on a telecom high carrier got caught with baby oil in a vehicle. I'm sure Leonard are here first.
01:22:27
Blackknight
Well, I mean, Hey, Hey,
01:22:27
ShereeVWatkins
ah From coffee station.
01:22:27
lastyles
It's gonna be a post. It's gonna be a postal scandal. We're gonna bring it to y'all first. It's a postal scandal.
01:22:35
ShereeVWatkins
From coffee station.
01:22:37
lastyles
Postal employees hauling a baby oil for Diddy across America.
01:22:42
Blackknight
i the stuff that go down and go down at the T station where the T station always been that station has been popping.
01:22:48
lastyles
Listen.
01:22:49
Fee
um
01:22:49
lastyles
Listen, if any if any anybody that's curious right now, if you get a package that's leaking, don't even deliver that.
01:22:50
Fee
ah
01:22:55
lastyles
Take that back to management.
01:22:55
Blackknight
No, he's a little bit.
01:22:56
lastyles
You know you don't want to be caught in it.
01:22:58
ShereeVWatkins
ah
01:22:58
Blackknight
Hey.
01:22:58
lastyles
You don't know what's in there. I don't know what Diddy got going on.
01:23:00
Blackknight
Don't put your fingerprints on it.
01:23:02
lastyles
If he trying to hide evidence or something, but somebody going to have to take care of this, I ain't got nothing to do with it.
01:23:05
ShereeVWatkins
I'm on a 15 power stretch.
01:23:07
lastyles
Don't even take it out the office.
01:23:07
Blackknight
I promise.
01:23:09
lastyles
Don't even take it out the office. Hand it right to the desk. Like, hey, man, here you go, man. I don't know what that is.
01:23:14
Blackknight
I promise you.
01:23:15
Fee
Mm, mm, mm.
01:23:15
Blackknight
Look, that's Watkins and you know, that's her route, but that baby will be coming up missing all the time.
01:23:21
ShereeVWatkins
You're going to see me in the office for failure to follow. I got a 15-pound, I got a 15-pound restriction. I can't give you all the baby oil. ah we No, ma'am.
01:23:32
lastyles
Hmm.
01:23:33
ShereeVWatkins
I don't even use baby oil back.
01:23:34
Blackknight
Come here.
01:23:37
lastyles
Now, OK, so don let let let me let me get a pe people my idea.
01:23:38
ShereeVWatkins
so
01:23:41
lastyles
So let me let me clarify this again.
01:23:43
Blackknight
oh here
01:23:43
lastyles
The Leonard Leonard opinion is Leonard opinion.
01:23:44
Blackknight
Hold on, hold on for you to say.
01:23:45
ShereeVWatkins
the Yeah. He always do that. Like.
01:23:47
lastyles
Let me let me let me clarify because listen, I want to say people been shooting shots behind the scenes, man.
01:23:48
Blackknight
Hold on, hold on, hold up, hold up. Hold on for you to start.
01:23:54
Blackknight
Hold on, hold on.
01:23:54
lastyles
You two call for you. You don't call some strays.
01:23:56
Blackknight
Hold on.
01:23:57
ShereeVWatkins
Do.
01:23:57
lastyles
I had to say something.
01:23:58
ShereeVWatkins
Man.
01:23:58
Blackknight
Hold on.
01:23:59
lastyles
I had to say something.
01:24:01
Blackknight
let me Let me just get my let me get mine off myself.
01:24:01
lastyles
All right, go ahead.
01:24:04
Blackknight
I just want y'all to let y'all know I go by black night But my my official government name is Demetri Ricardo coffee singer Don't send a message to somebody else for me.
01:24:12
ShereeVWatkins
Oh, my God. Ricardo.
01:24:18
Blackknight
I ain't hard to find I ain't hard to find let me tell you something if you don't like something I'm ah Yeah, cuz I look right look
01:24:22
ShereeVWatkins
You may, you may be hard to talk, you may be hard to talk to. You know, you got that look.
01:24:29
Blackknight
I'm just letting you know, if you don't like what I'm saying, and you don't like what I'm doing, there's only one thing you can do. Either you going to come up here on live and with us on the podcast and you explain what you don't like.
01:24:40
Fee
after.
01:24:41
Blackknight
But I'm telling you, I'm from Mississippi. and I'm like a Baptist preacher. I don't mind putting my hands on people.
01:24:47
ShereeVWatkins
That sound welcome.
01:24:47
Blackknight
Lead me in what? Lead me in whatever I'm doing out of it.
01:24:51
ShereeVWatkins
Whoa.
01:24:53
lastyles
The government guiding y'all government, government government got it.
01:24:55
ShereeVWatkins
Good.
01:24:56
Fee
but
01:24:56
Blackknight
Okay. oh I don't I don't I don't want to hear no.
01:24:57
ShereeVWatkins
Good.
01:24:57
lastyles
yeah
01:24:58
ShereeVWatkins
Good.
01:25:00
Blackknight
Oh very Yeah, they're trying to look leave me and what I'm doing if you don't like what I'm doing Leave me alone, but I'm telling you now.
01:25:00
ShereeVWatkins
He out.
01:25:02
lastyles
The government disconnected you for a second.
01:25:12
Blackknight
I ain't trying to mix no word.
01:25:12
ShereeVWatkins
and Don't repeat that coffee.
01:25:14
Blackknight
did Look stop Stop going
01:25:16
ShereeVWatkins
Sorry.
01:25:17
Blackknight
Stop going to other members of this podcast, believing they going to say you. Cause when it's on read is on read. Now I respect everybody. I believe in love.
01:25:26
ShereeVWatkins
yeah
01:25:27
Blackknight
I believe in healing. I believe in Jesus, but I'm from, the I'm from revelation. now I'm from the revelation, but I ain't look, I made it to Psalms and I a made it.
01:25:37
Blackknight
I look, leave me alone. If you don't like what I'm saying, just say, Hey, that's his opinion. and Until I put your name in it because I will because once I hear who you say I'm definitely going to address you You definitely not gonna be anonymous.
01:25:51
Blackknight
I'm gonna say your whole name here and if you say If you say so, I'm definitely gonna put your name out.
01:25:53
ShereeVWatkins
Don't tell him. Don't tell. Yo, don't say.
01:25:59
Blackknight
I don't care if You don't like something do something about it. What we're doing on this podcast is we're sick and tired of the status quo and if You're saying that you're doing the same thing.
01:26:13
Blackknight
We're doing you're fighting you're fighting for kill for carriers You're saying you're fighting for the car app. You say you're fighting for a management didn't fight I'm I I'm Martin a mackerel before he went to mek before he went to the Mecca.
01:26:28
ShereeVWatkins
yeah
01:26:28
Blackknight
I'm just gonna be honest with you So so So leave me and I I'm telling you now.
01:26:30
ShereeVWatkins
Government! Government! He's gone government!
01:26:37
Blackknight
I want no problems, but I don't mind having them So my opinion is going to always be my opinions. I don't back down. I don't run for nothing. My daddy left me where, where my boat.
01:26:49
Blackknight
I thought he had sex with my mom. I had nobody to run home to now. So I'm telling you now, I hard to find.
01:26:54
ShereeVWatkins
Mike check, Mike check, Mike check, Mike check, Mike check, Mike check, come on coffee bag.
01:26:56
Fee
but
01:26:56
lastyles
Yeah, you gotta get that off you gotta get that off
01:26:57
Blackknight
I already find that is what I do.
01:27:01
Blackknight
the
01:27:03
lastyles
Yeah, you got to get that off.
01:27:03
Blackknight
I'm just saying you but people have too much stuff to say about nothing.
01:27:07
ShereeVWatkins
He gotta give a backstory on why he's gonna do it, no.
01:27:08
Blackknight
I don't, I, one thing I don't do is, When a person has something to say, you can say it. If you, if you feel like my views, LA views, we're going to leave Watkins and fee out of this because they don't, they don't sit on the side of the street that we sit on.
01:27:24
Blackknight
You know what I'm saying? But if you throw a rock at them and I see you, I'm going to throw a boulder at you now because they don't like, they don't like violence. Like me in LA, that's a different story, but I will fight for my people.
01:27:32
Fee
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. I'm with the smoke, bruh.
01:27:35
Blackknight
You and you.
01:27:36
lastyles
Yeah.
01:27:36
Fee
I'm with the smoke.
01:27:37
lastyles
When you throw the rock at them, coffee going to throw the boulder at you.
01:27:40
ShereeVWatkins
but
01:27:41
lastyles
And then I'm going to throw a bottle of baby oil at you too.
01:27:42
Blackknight
Yeah.
01:27:44
Fee
but
01:27:44
Blackknight
Yep.
01:27:45
lastyles
Take this with you.
01:27:45
Blackknight
We're going to make, we're going to make sure you don't get away.
01:27:46
ShereeVWatkins
i guess I got, got some more.
01:27:48
Blackknight
We'll make sure you.
01:27:48
lastyles
Great. It didn't call the police.
01:27:50
ShereeVWatkins
again
01:27:50
lastyles
It didn't call the police.
01:27:50
Blackknight
Yep.
01:27:51
lastyles
Once I pulled the baby oil on him, calling the police, hey, I think he in it. Rico, come get him.
01:27:54
ShereeVWatkins
<unk>
01:27:55
ShereeVWatkins
yeah the way
01:27:55
Blackknight
They're going co-conspirator.
01:27:57
Blackknight
Like, like, come on.
01:27:57
lastyles
Come get him.
01:27:59
Blackknight
I'm brave. Like we are here for the, for the, all the same reason for the Marine to bring information, to bring, uh, better ways to do things, to bring awareness to things. If you don't like what I'm doing, then that's cool.
01:28:11
Blackknight
But I'm telling you now, you got a problem with me. I put an ad on and I come, I pull up on, you know, I ain't got any problem with it.
01:28:16
ShereeVWatkins
Coffee ain't nobody got no problems with you, man.
01:28:18
lastyles
Look, look, look, I told y'all he works for you.
01:28:19
ShereeVWatkins
God, man, they don't, man.
01:28:19
Blackknight
I'm just saying, just saying.
01:28:22
ShereeVWatkins
Calm down, coffee. the take This this ain't, we talk, we talk, we talk, man.
01:28:24
lastyles
It's got to be physical smoke.
01:28:25
Blackknight
You know, cause, cause I mean, correct.
01:28:28
lastyles
It can be verbal smoke. Look, the problem is people will say things behind the scenes, but nobody wants to answer to the things that they're saying. And we're not even saying that it has to be a physical confrontation to answer for.
01:28:40
lastyles
it Come talk to me.
01:28:41
ShereeVWatkins
Ain't nobody coming to talk to coffee right now.
01:28:42
Blackknight
That's it.
01:28:42
lastyles
If anybody can feel different,
01:28:45
Blackknight
What you mean?
01:28:45
ShereeVWatkins
and go
01:28:45
lastyles
and
01:28:45
ShereeVWatkins
um
01:28:46
lastyles
and
01:28:46
Blackknight
no I I look, I'm just saying, cause I'm from, I'm from art school.
01:28:46
ShereeVWatkins
well
01:28:52
Blackknight
I don't believe that you should address somebody through somebody else.
01:28:52
ShereeVWatkins
the
01:28:56
Blackknight
I don't believe in it. If I have a problem with you, I must come talk to you man to man, a man, a woman and have that conversation with you. When you're talking behind somebody back, it gives me.
01:29:07
Blackknight
It gives me the nervous feeling that you might do something to me because you're talking behind the back.
01:29:10
ShereeVWatkins
nervous mut nervous you nervous
01:29:13
Blackknight
It may. And once I get nervous, you know what I'm saying? I'm liable to do anything. That's what the therapist say. But as I digress, if you have something that you would like to say about this podcast, all you got to do is hit somebody phone line.
01:29:34
Blackknight
and say, I would like to come on and be able to air out my grievances with you.
01:29:37
ShereeVWatkins
I'm nervous, you nervous, you nervous?
01:29:39
Blackknight
If that's not what you want to do, go to our YouTube, go to amazing studio, YouTube page, and just put, get in the comments. Don't send it to one of the people on the screen right now.
01:29:48
lastyles
ah
01:29:50
Blackknight
Cause then I feel a type of way.
01:29:55
ShereeVWatkins
It's up now.
01:29:55
lastyles
you good
01:29:57
ShereeVWatkins
It's all the way up.
01:29:57
lastyles
yeah you got that all
01:29:59
Blackknight
Yeah, I'm good. I'm good now.
01:30:00
lastyles
Okay.
01:30:00
ShereeVWatkins
He done set the mic down.
01:30:00
Blackknight
God is good.
01:30:02
lastyles
okay
01:30:02
Blackknight
God is good all the time and all the time God is good.
01:30:02
ShereeVWatkins
Oh, Lord Jesus.
01:30:05
Fee
Good.
01:30:06
ShereeVWatkins
You don't want to mess with him now. You don't want to mess with him.
01:30:10
lastyles
um got Now on my part, right? I made up my mind earlier this year, over a period of five and a half years, that something was going to have to change in the post office if me or anyone that's in any of my circles was going to stay here a long time or long term.
01:30:22
ShereeVWatkins
and nothing to know about it.
01:30:29
lastyles
I made up my mind that comfortably something would have to change drastically in the post office for that to happen. Otherwise that wouldn't be the thing. Now people shouldn't have to run from a job, not because the job itself is bad, but because people keep doing antagonizing things to cause you to have a bad day. When there's things in place to stop that from happening, I shouldn't have to give up a 30 year job because
01:30:56
Fee
Okay.
01:30:56
lastyles
A don't want to protect me from B when A whole job is to protect me from B.
01:31:01
ShereeVWatkins
And the job not hard.
01:31:01
lastyles
Right?
01:31:02
ShereeVWatkins
The job not hard at all.
01:31:03
lastyles
Correct.
01:31:04
ShereeVWatkins
I enjoy my job. I honestly do. I mean, it's not the job itself. It's the people giving instructions and everybody else on top of the tree.
01:31:13
Blackknight
Okay.
01:31:18
ShereeVWatkins
We're just at the bottom, we're in the side too, you know.
01:31:19
lastyles
And the side of the tree. but which which Which we don't talk about right for the game.
01:31:24
ShereeVWatkins
we
01:31:25
lastyles
That's all I'm trying weather weather the calm before the storm. Right. So this is what was important. I made my mind up way before I did we did the first episode of the postal blue already had to sit in my head on You're going to do this.
01:31:39
lastyles
I know what it was called. What did we look like? If it was going to be a show, if it was going to be a project, you got to go down, start carrying mail, and then just started from the ground up with putting EO's on people just to start leading by ex example.
01:31:47
ShereeVWatkins
We... on the street.
01:31:49
lastyles
But it was going to happen. I had made it up in my mind that it was going to happen already. Right. So me personally, I have a clear, uh, finish line that I have in my head already,
Call for Systemic Change
01:32:03
lastyles
right?
01:32:03
lastyles
I have to go from here and for me to get from here to there along with the post office intact, some things are going to have to be addressed in between times and some things will have to change in between times, but I can see the finish line, right?
01:32:17
lastyles
I can see it.
01:32:18
ShereeVWatkins
I
01:32:19
lastyles
With that said, if you in my way, for whatever reason that you choose to be in my way, I will address you when I get there.
01:32:22
ShereeVWatkins
know.
01:32:27
lastyles
That's your choice. If you're doing anything by this path, I mean, if you're doing anything that you ain't got no business doing, you might want to stop doing whatever it is that you're doing by the time I get to where you're supposed to be at in my road.
01:32:39
lastyles
That's your problem.
01:32:39
Blackknight
breach.
01:32:40
lastyles
Because for the fact the past five and a half years, y'all have made things my problem. What made things coffee problem or walking problem or feet problem. And ain't nobody doing nothing about it. So now I'm gonna bring the problem to you.
01:32:50
Fee
sir
01:32:51
lastyles
Hopefully you not there when I get there. But if you there when I get there, you going to have a major problem. And that's just how it's going to be. You can accept it, not accept it.
01:32:58
Blackknight
My lord.
01:32:58
lastyles
You can do the Kevin Lyle step down. Soon as Diddy, soon as Diddy got convicted, niggas left. People step down from positions. Let me get out the way.
01:33:07
ShereeVWatkins
Hey, you see, hey, you see the public, she turned off her email and her phone number.
01:33:07
lastyles
They saw it coming.
01:33:11
lastyles
Thank you.
01:33:13
ShereeVWatkins
She just said, right.
01:33:13
lastyles
correct. So this is what I'm saying. this i' i'm I'm telling you what it's going to be.
01:33:16
ShereeVWatkins
rat
01:33:19
lastyles
Stay in your position.
01:33:19
ShereeVWatkins
and
01:33:20
lastyles
Stay with you at. Do what you do. Hopefully you're not doing something in the negative light by the time I get there. Because if I get there and I see it, it's going to be names. It's going to be what it is.
01:33:30
lastyles
And we're going to address what it is at that point in time. And there ain't going to be no talking about it. no if It ain't going to be no nothing. You got all this time currently right now to get out the road. You want to stay in the road and accept getting hit.
01:33:41
lastyles
They're just going to be what it is. And I say that to say, I say that to say, right. I do believe before I go into my details from my side, I do believe that union stewards should be getting paid to do union steward stuff, right? They, they are carriers or clerks. They do hold a craft position along with doing quote unquote, kind of like extra work. They should be getting paid to do it. I also believe safety capitalists who I don't think get paid. I do believe safety capitalists should get paid.
01:34:11
Fee
Well, we get paid accordinged we get paid according and to our when we go to our meetings.
01:34:12
ShereeVWatkins
I didn't know they did get paid.
01:34:12
lastyles
And I don't know.
01:34:12
Blackknight
They don't get paid.
01:34:16
Fee
That's how we get paid.
01:34:17
lastyles
Correct.
01:34:17
ShereeVWatkins
And it ours is kind of like due to grievances.
01:34:18
lastyles
um But correct.
01:34:21
ShereeVWatkins
It's like the more you file.
01:34:22
lastyles
This is what I'm going to get into. But when I get into it, I'm not going to be addressed that y'all should be getting paid. I'm often to be off the hinge in the minute. You know what I'm saying?
01:34:29
ShereeVWatkins
worn and Warning.
01:34:30
Blackknight
Go ahead, do your thing.
01:34:30
lastyles
So let me get that out the way now.
01:34:31
Fee
Okay.
01:34:31
lastyles
I do believe that stewards should get paid.
01:34:32
ShereeVWatkins
Warning.
01:34:32
Blackknight
Do your thing.
01:34:34
lastyles
This is my opinion. My name is Leonard Augustus Marcel Anderson. I reside in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
01:34:38
ShereeVWatkins
Oh, man.
01:34:39
lastyles
I work at the Hampton Station. You can see me and find me.
01:34:40
ShereeVWatkins
Hey, hey, hey, hey. She was so smart.
01:34:42
lastyles
Wherever you can see me and find me is where I'm at, right? If you were in the union, you ain't mad at me.
01:34:46
Blackknight
It is.
01:34:47
lastyles
If you don't know who I am, never came across me. If you want something to say to me, you can call them. They will forward you to me, you know what I'm saying?
01:34:54
ShereeVWatkins
think
01:34:54
lastyles
And we can talk, right? Cool. Or you could get in the comments. You can hit up somebody at your station to see how you want to get on the show if you want to address it like that in front of people. Cool.
01:35:04
ShereeVWatkins
Do you know other people?
01:35:04
lastyles
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I'm not, I'm not. The problem is a lot of y'all are not going to do that.
01:35:08
Blackknight
Hey.
01:35:09
lastyles
And if a lot of y'all are not going to do that, then really you ain't got nothing to say to me then, right?
01:35:13
ShereeVWatkins
o
01:35:14
lastyles
Cool.
01:35:14
Blackknight
Facts.
01:35:15
lastyles
Cool, right? So with that said, I do believe stewards should get paid for doing steward type of work.
01:35:17
ShereeVWatkins
I didn't know that.
01:35:22
lastyles
I believe safety captains who don't get paid, if I'm mistaken, coffee or safety captain, right?
01:35:26
Blackknight
They don't get paid. They don't get paid.
01:35:28
lastyles
I believe they should get paid. They don't, which just goes into coffee earlier, right?
01:35:32
ShereeVWatkins
I didn't know that.
01:35:35
lastyles
Before the white man held me back. Coffee was saying earlier about there's not as many safety captains, but that's because there's no incentive to be a safety captain.
01:35:37
Fee
Thank you.
01:35:39
ShereeVWatkins
I'm going to play.
01:35:44
lastyles
You just have to do extra work along with still carrying around or being a clerk or being whatever it is in your area and doing extra work without getting extra paid, but you just got extra work continuously. You know what I'm saying?
01:35:55
Blackknight
My Lord.
01:35:56
lastyles
To me, that's not cool. They should get paid as well. Right. Um, with that said, I am starting to believe, or we'll be starting to believe very soon. If I don't see any changes by the end of the year and this grievance slash higher than grievance, higher level than grievance processes, but, but I don't get it.
01:36:07
Fee
Okay.
01:36:11
ShereeVWatkins
Come on, man, that's only three or four months. That's only three or four months.
01:36:15
Fee
Okay.
01:36:16
Blackknight
yeah know Get him.
01:36:17
ShereeVWatkins
They need a year for that.
01:36:19
lastyles
No, said but since I've been in y'all to have five and a half years and ain't changed nothing.
01:36:24
ShereeVWatkins
We ain't giving you nothing.
01:36:24
lastyles
I shouldn't have to give you another year or two or three, four years. I'm given to the inner there's new people in positions who said that they weren't those positions to make a change.
01:36:29
ShereeVWatkins
like
01:36:34
lastyles
So if I don't see these changes, then what I'm supposed to give you a year to make change.
01:36:38
Blackknight
Get him.
01:36:38
ShereeVWatkins
Least six months.
01:36:39
lastyles
Nah, I ain't gotta to give you nothing.
01:36:40
ShereeVWatkins
Least six months. what
01:36:42
lastyles
But some of these, some of these people already been infamous. So look, this one, this one I'm gonna say, right?
01:36:47
ShereeVWatkins
like smart
01:36:48
lastyles
ah but What that said, for people who don't know, you're stewards. And again, this is not a shot at sports. Let me, let me, let me preface this by saying, stewards can only do a certain amount of things in their station.
01:36:55
Blackknight
at home Right.
01:37:01
lastyles
When they file grievances, stewards are not responsible for making your payments or getting you paid. They just got to file paperwork. If you're not paid, then they got to go for a non-compliance and send that up.
01:37:12
lastyles
right So when you're not getting paid ah but by certain levels, that's not because your stewards are not filing your grievance or they're not trying to fight for you in those types of ways. I want to make sure I clarify that before I hop off the i hop off the edge.
01:37:22
ShereeVWatkins
Thank you.
01:37:24
lastyles
right So again, these shots are not at necessarily the stewards, but the people hired in stewards.
01:37:30
Blackknight
Oh yeah.
01:37:32
lastyles
Now, stewards do get some level of payment based on the grievances that they file. right This is my personal opinion.
01:37:40
ShereeVWatkins
When you say your poor name is scary, I don't even know what you're going to say.
01:37:41
lastyles
My name is Leonard Augustus Marcel Anderson again, right?
01:37:44
Blackknight
Breach.
01:37:45
lastyles
You need to look. I want people to be able to find me on any social media platform. Look it up.
01:37:52
Blackknight
Get them.
01:37:53
lastyles
You might be able to find me. If not Milwaukee, Wisconsin, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. I can't, I'm doing everything but give out my address and my phone number.
01:38:01
Blackknight
Get on.
01:38:02
lastyles
But if you in the post office and you got a problem, you can find me by my government. You know what I'm saying? You should be able to find me by my government.
01:38:07
Blackknight
Get on.
01:38:09
lastyles
or even the union. Y'all got access to computers, you can find me too. With that said, I'm starting to believe that the higher level union, which is why this is me personally, are not fighting more than what they're supposed to be fighting because they keep getting paid off the grievances.
01:38:13
ShereeVWatkins
we go. for
01:38:27
lastyles
And if they told you the secret to using EEOs properly or 1767s properly, that would cut down the grievances, which means they money would be less.
01:38:38
Blackknight
Uh oh.
01:38:38
Fee
Okay.
01:38:39
lastyles
if that makes sense to you. Now again, that's not on the stores and I'm not trying to cut into the store's pocket.
01:38:41
Fee
Okay.
01:38:45
lastyles
Y'all can file your own grievances. Now, if you don't know the process, don't want to do the process, then you just do it. I use a Stewart, even though I've only, you know what I'm saying? I don't file no grievances. They just put my name in grievances and when it's a grievance and I'm cool with that.
01:38:56
lastyles
I got, cause I got no problem with my Stewart. If you don't got a problem with your Stewart, then cool, right? But the people hired in that, that's supposed to be stopping, right? Go with coffee.
01:39:07
lastyles
We shouldn't, we're not supposed to keep filing grievances for the same thing. Right? A grievance is an acknowledgement that you did something that violated the contract and you're not supposed to do it again, which means if they keep doing it, then higher than Stewart's supposed to come in and put a stop to that one way or another, whether it's EEO 1767, getting the department of labor involved, talking to lawyers, whatever the case is to cease and desist that action.
01:39:15
ShereeVWatkins
carl
01:39:32
lastyles
But instead they're opening the floodgates to allow those grievances to keep coming through because they keep getting paid off just grievances. At the cost of our paying, at the cost of newer carriers or PSEs losing their jobs, getting fired consistently. ah We can't retain nobody. And people just get an overall emotionally overwhelmed, mentally overwhelmed, whatever the case is that filed grievances.
01:39:57
lastyles
Hey, just do it. Call a grievance. Hey, just let them harass you. but It's all my opinion. Just let them harass you. Follow grievance. Hey, we know it's a hostile work environment. Everybody in the union know that's high level know that there's a zero tolerance in the post office for any federal jobs to zero tolerance for allowing the hostile work environment. Meaning anybody caught creating a hostile work environment. This is federal law. You can look this up. Anybody caught creating a hostile work environment, which in this case at a station would be either the supervisor or the manager.
01:40:26
lastyles
is automatic termination, meaning they fired. Anybody allowing a half style work environment is supposed to be fired, right? So in my case, in my thought process, and when I talked to my lawyer, did this is what it would be, is that my management is creating a half style work environment and my union is allowing the half style work environment.
01:40:46
lastyles
So to me, they both should be fired.
01:40:47
Blackknight
Oh.
01:40:50
Blackknight
Uh-oh.
01:40:50
lastyles
Now stop me where I'm wrong. This is what I'm starting to believe. Now again, I could be wrong and somebody could show me something different by the end of the year. If it's not done by the end of the year, this me personally, I'm gonna start to assume that you end with them. Same thing I said in the last show. I'm gonna start to assume that you end with them. And if you end with them, then you gotta catch rec with them. That's just what it's gonna be. Management gotta to get paperwork. And if you gonna sit by and allow them to keep doing things, then you gotta get paperwork too. That's just gonna be what it is.
01:41:23
lastyles
Also with that, do y'all know, people that's out there, if you feel like you're not being properly represented and things are not happening, that you can take your union dues off the table and not pay the union, you don't have to pay the union nothing.
01:41:24
Blackknight
Papers.
01:41:34
lastyles
Here's the kicker to that part. Ladies and gentlemen who didn't know, they still gotta represent you regardless.
01:41:35
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
01:41:38
lastyles
Keep your money to yourself.
01:41:40
Blackknight
God damn.
01:41:40
lastyles
why Why allow them to sit in the office and under AC when on, but let them tell it, management want to turn off the ACs and stations while you in heat.
01:41:40
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
01:41:49
lastyles
They want to sit in the union halls under the AC getting paid by your money while still not fighting for you. Take your money off the table. You could do that.
01:42:00
lastyles
If you don't want them to get more money from you in your grievance, buy your own grievance.
01:42:05
lastyles
Why are we paying them anything for you to be harassed? That only makes it, I wouldn't pay a lawyer who keep giving me jail time.
01:42:15
lastyles
You my lawyer, how do you keep agreeing with them, but I'm paying you. At what point in time do I tell you, you know what, dog, you got to go. That's, that's where I'm almost at with it. And by almost I'm saying about the end of this year, and that's why I said 2024 is the start of a change and it's going to happen.
01:42:31
lastyles
Whether anyone liked it or not, it ain't, it ain't up to you no more.
01:42:33
Fee
Good.
01:42:35
ShereeVWatkins
Why you got them bangs in your phone?
01:42:36
lastyles
Whether you imagine the side or union side, it ain't up to you no more, right? Y'all had a lot of time to get things situated and it ain't happening. So now the bigger force, which is our population of carriers, we going to make the change and either you going to get in line or you going to get out of line.
01:42:52
lastyles
That's just bottom line. This is how it is.
01:42:54
Blackknight
That's a lot of lines.
01:42:57
lastyles
And that's why me personally, I believe that they don't use the tools that they supposed to use, like EEOs.
Union's Conflict of Interest
01:43:02
lastyles
That's why they don't give you or not. Now watch it. I'm gonna give you this. Somebody told me when I asked about an EEO before, they told me that they felt like they would be liable if they gave me information to do a EEO, but I didn't win the EEO.
01:43:08
ShereeVWatkins
Huh?
01:43:16
lastyles
Not if they fought for me. If they gave me information, which I don't know what an EEO is. I don't know how to file it. What is it for? Exactly what I'm asking for information. It's all I asked for.
01:43:28
lastyles
Person told me in the union told me that they, that they wouldn't give me no information because they felt like it would be liable. They would be liable if I lost the EEO.
01:43:41
ShereeVWatkins
wow
01:43:41
lastyles
Now I don't even know how that makes sense.
01:43:41
Blackknight
That's crazy.
01:43:42
lastyles
It's like me asking the lawyer, Hey man, do you think I got a case or not?
01:43:43
ShereeVWatkins
whoa i heard that's crazy whoa
01:43:43
Blackknight
That's crazy.
01:43:46
lastyles
Cause I might have to sue somebody. Could you let me know if I got a case? And the lawyer say, no, I can't let you know if you got a case because if you don't win the case, I'm going to be responsible. That only makes sense.
01:43:55
ShereeVWatkins
that that it really don't oh wow well somebody tell that person that
01:43:57
lastyles
So I didn't get the information. This was somebody who was supposed to represent me, told me.
01:44:04
lastyles
And somehow this was supposed to make sense. But again, it made sense at the time because I'm new and don't know no better. I don't know what the EEO is. So maybe that person is correct. Maybe they may come up down the line.
01:44:15
lastyles
They don't even make sense as I got more knowledge. Don't even make sense to me.
01:44:18
ShereeVWatkins
That's crazy. Somebody must have told them to say that because that don't even make no kind of sense.
01:44:26
lastyles
So <unk>s there's a problem.
01:44:27
ShereeVWatkins
it That's a big issue.
01:44:28
lastyles
And we got to just focus to save the post office. Because at this point in time, I don't believe management is going to save the post office from going under. I don't believe the unions are going to save the post office from going under.
01:44:39
lastyles
Because we're go going under two different ways. We're going under from on the financial side. And we're going under from just the work environment. Who's working to fix either one of those? Nobody did I see.
01:44:52
lastyles
So the job is getting ah be is becoming a worse job. And we we quote unquote, we never argue going bankrupt, but just for term purposes. And we we lose our money and it's becoming a work a worse ah workplace environment.
01:45:07
lastyles
That don't make sense for nobody to continue to want to work at. So you can't have both. Somebody got to fix something. If the people that's in charge of fixing it, not fixing it, then maybe we need new people in charge.
01:45:13
ShereeVWatkins
hand one of them
01:45:22
ShereeVWatkins
i'm so hungry
01:45:24
Blackknight
Tokyo ish. Tokyo ish, no?
01:45:25
ShereeVWatkins
oh Don't get him started because this we we at the 145 mark guys.
01:45:26
Blackknight
Come on, eh?
01:45:34
ShereeVWatkins
We at the 145 mark.
01:45:36
lastyles
And the next time I show up at a union meeting, I'm coming with baby oil.
01:45:38
Fee
ah oh lord jesus
01:45:41
ShereeVWatkins
um
01:45:41
lastyles
I'm coming with a whole box. I'm leaving it there. I'm playing evidence to get ready to do whatever I got to do.
01:45:48
Fee
They gonna put your tail up out of there.
01:45:49
lastyles
Watch your back. I pay union dues. They ain't touching me.
01:45:53
ShereeVWatkins
That ain't federal property on it at the Union Hall.
01:45:55
Fee
exactly at the union hall sir they gonna bounce you right on up out of there
01:45:57
ShereeVWatkins
That's what I was saying.
01:45:58
Blackknight
Hey, hello.
01:45:59
lastyles
I say I pay union dues. I say I pay union dues is what I say. I'm still part of the union. I'm a carrier. I didn't come in here.
01:46:07
ShereeVWatkins
and
01:46:08
lastyles
I don't know violence. I ain't come to threaten nobody, but I could come with, I could come to my personal supply of baby oil, whether it's 10 boxes or not.
01:46:09
ShereeVWatkins
good
01:46:15
lastyles
it But it doesn't matter. It's minus. I could come in here with that.
01:46:17
Blackknight
Well, I put some baby oil around you.
01:46:19
ShereeVWatkins
well but
01:46:19
Blackknight
They ain't gonna be able to come to you.
01:46:22
ShereeVWatkins
Retirees do come in with jello shots and, you know, little treats for the carriers and the general public.
01:46:29
lastyles
I'm going to come in here with 10 boxes of, of, of airplane size baby oil. Lotion, Jurgens, Vaseline.
01:46:35
Blackknight
Damn.
01:46:38
Blackknight
What about some Johnson and Johnson?
01:46:41
lastyles
Is that what he used?
01:46:43
ShereeVWatkins
No, that was not.
01:46:43
Blackknight
That what he was using, they said Johnson and Johnson.
01:46:47
ShereeVWatkins
oh
01:46:48
Blackknight
That's what they said.
01:46:48
ShereeVWatkins
They about to sue him. They about to sue him.
01:46:52
lastyles
Well, what rumors e is the upper management be having their own DD parties.
01:46:57
Blackknight
Wow.
01:46:57
lastyles
And we ain't gonna talk about that. We ain't gonna talk about that.
01:46:59
Blackknight
God damn.
01:47:00
lastyles
Y'all know who y'all are.
01:47:02
ShereeVWatkins
I think I seen a couple of clips.
01:47:02
Blackknight
God damn.
01:47:04
ShereeVWatkins
I see a couple of clips.
01:47:05
lastyles
Y'all know who y'all are.
01:47:06
ShereeVWatkins
ah ah
01:47:07
lastyles
Don't make people start saying names.
01:47:08
Blackknight
boy
01:47:08
lastyles
You better get out my way. You better get out of my way.
01:47:11
ShereeVWatkins
yeah
01:47:12
lastyles
And I guarantee and i guarantee you somebody got tapes and I can get them.
01:47:15
Fee
Uh-oh.
01:47:16
lastyles
I guarantee somebody got tapes and I can get them.
01:47:17
Fee
Uh-oh!
01:47:19
lastyles
Let's start playing post office.
01:47:21
Blackknight
God damn, not the tapes.
01:47:24
lastyles
Y'all all on OnlyFans.
01:47:24
ShereeVWatkins
ah lot um ah my my face we no
01:47:29
Fee
but
01:47:31
Blackknight
Sheesh.
01:47:33
Fee
ah
01:47:33
lastyles
Keep playing with me. Patreon!
01:47:36
Blackknight
God damn, x.
01:47:37
Fee
My lord.
01:47:39
ShereeVWatkins
in He's sleepy. He's sleepy.
01:47:42
Fee
He needs sneakers.
01:47:42
ShereeVWatkins
He's tired. yeah a yeah yeah Yeah.
01:47:47
lastyles
I don't think I ate with a bowl of cereal today.
01:47:49
Fee
You need a sneaker. yeah
01:47:54
Blackknight
guys at least all I can tell you is to close this segment but before for Marcel or Leonard to get going again look I a cowboy's loss and I'm all I can tell you is I don't know about the Browns I know the Cowboys Seahawks won that's all I really care about
01:48:02
Fee
yes
01:48:03
lastyles
Shout out to everybody who football team winning. I don't know who playing right now. You know what I'm saying? I hope the games look good.
01:48:07
ShereeVWatkins
I heard the Packers won.
01:48:07
Fee
You don't even like football.
01:48:11
lastyles
um fell to the sports fan
01:48:12
Fee
um I'm taking it to Brown's theater too.
01:48:20
Blackknight
but to close the table on this and not put any baby oil on this serious talk. If you have something that you want to say about the postal blue podcast and all serious that I will ask you to do is to ask the person that you're going to say something to.
01:48:26
ShereeVWatkins
Oh!
01:48:39
Blackknight
Hey guys, can I come on this on the show? Because I believe you guys are very informed on certain different on different topics. We will allow you
01:48:48
lastyles
And to add it with that on coffee, to add with that down, let him continue. Cause I want to forget this. I feel like I'm gonna forget this cause I don't know how long he's going to go.
01:48:56
Blackknight
and we are going
01:48:56
lastyles
For those of you who do want to be a part of the show or feel like you got any type of story or experience that you want to get out the chest, you could come up. Whether you want to be anonymous or not, just let whoever it is know that, that you talk to on the show and we'll make that happen.
01:49:10
lastyles
No problem.
01:49:11
ShereeVWatkins
So how do they reach out? They just reach out to somebody from the show, reach out to you.
01:49:16
Blackknight
from the show you can go to you can go on uh the twitter i mean ex formerly known as twitter and getting uh and uh, post a blue podcast, uh, discord and talk to us that way.
01:49:28
Blackknight
If you guys, if you know somebody that, um, days on the show, you can get through them. Also, you can go to amazing studios on YouTube and under one of the videos you leave a comment and we'll be able to get back to, get back to you that way as well.
01:49:44
Blackknight
But talking.
01:49:45
lastyles
or go to the the Twitter community, host a blue podcast on Twitter, go to the community, right?
01:49:47
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah, those that want to be anonymous, yeah.
01:49:51
lastyles
You can send me a message on there or add a, or add a message in that community saying, Hey, you know what I'm saying? LA or whoever, why can I, you know what I'm saying? Can I, can I have a conversation with your own from the, whatever the case is, then we can be in contact that way and we we can start the communication through there.
01:50:07
lastyles
Yeah. That's if you don't know us personally or can't get a reach of us in in the Milwaukee district. ah Us right here are in the Milwaukee district. But anybody outside of the ah the Milwaukee district, if you're in Ohio, try to find fee.
01:50:21
lastyles
She's going to be doing 9 to 10 soon. So I'll reach out to her as soon as possible.
01:50:25
Fee
I'm going where?
01:50:26
lastyles
um Huh?
01:50:27
Fee
Where you say I'm going?
01:50:29
Blackknight
Feds.
01:50:29
ShereeVWatkins
No.
01:50:29
Fee
but Okay, yeah, I'm going to lay it down.
01:50:30
ShereeVWatkins
No.
01:50:30
lastyles
Yeah.
01:50:30
Blackknight
Feds.
01:50:33
Fee
For putting my hands on the supervisor.
01:50:34
lastyles
Yeah.
01:50:38
lastyles
yeah you They should have got you for that.
01:50:39
Blackknight
Allegedly. Allegedly.
01:50:41
lastyles
This bitch should have got you for that.
01:50:41
ShereeVWatkins
She didn't hear nobody.
01:50:42
Fee
but
01:50:43
ShereeVWatkins
She was just talking loud.
01:50:44
Blackknight
Allegedly.
01:50:44
ShereeVWatkins
They said, we can talk as loud as we want to, as long as we talking about the contract. We can scream. So you good on that. Keep screaming.
01:50:55
lastyles
But yeah, so ah don't be afraid to reach out is all I want to add before call for the 10.
01:50:56
ShereeVWatkins
I wonder why they go here.
01:51:01
lastyles
Y'all can reach out. Anybody got a story or experience? that they want to come on the show, talk about a dress, or just get get something off your chest. You're more than capable of doing that. If you want to be anonymous, we can set that up, too.
01:51:13
lastyles
I got no problem with that. You know what I'm saying? No names, no face, no nothing. It's also a safe place. Just not if you're doing crooked stuff. is not If you're doing crooked stuff, this is not a safe place for you.
01:51:20
Blackknight
Okay. Here you are now.
01:51:22
Fee
All right.
01:51:24
lastyles
if you if If you're good, you're good. Right? I got no problem with that.
01:51:26
ShereeVWatkins
i
01:51:26
Blackknight
really
01:51:28
lastyles
You're good, you're good.
01:51:28
Fee
um
01:51:30
lastyles
If you do it doing stuff you ain't got no business continue to go to the cabinet in the woods where y'all go I know that's what it is yeah y'all know I know what i'm talking about if I said that go to the cabinet in the woods y'all know where y'all go and then do what you do go up there get your meet me alone somebody gonna record you with a phone to the door you know i'm saying and you're gonna be on war star next go ahead coffee.
01:51:36
Blackknight
God damn. God damn. God damn.
01:51:42
ShereeVWatkins
Oh my god. Oh my god.
01:51:49
Blackknight
and
01:51:53
Blackknight
i I just want everybody to know, yeah I get very passionate about how I feed my family, and that's through the post office.
01:51:56
Fee
but
01:52:01
Blackknight
And I'm really i'm very disheartened when people want to talk about We're trying to make people more knowledgeable of their rights and things that should happen. So if you really got something to say, and you ain't want to talk smack, just reach out, get on, get on here.
01:52:17
Blackknight
Let us know what your opinion is. it know It doesn't have to be the same opinion that I have, uh, Marcellus, uh, Leonard has or Watkins or fee.
01:52:28
Blackknight
You know what I'm saying? I don't know how long walking is going to be out because our tape is coming out, but that's all you got to do.
01:52:30
Fee
Thank you very much.
01:52:36
Blackknight
is just come on and let us know what's going on.
01:52:36
ShereeVWatkins
And the hood and you.
01:52:40
Blackknight
That's all you gotta do. Ain't nobody asking for you. You can come on here and say your name, some ah some other name. But I will say this, I will echo this.
01:52:50
Blackknight
Why would you get abused in public and privately wanna fight?
01:52:56
Blackknight
I don't know how they ah how they work and maybe I'm built differently. But if a person slapped me in the face, I'm gonna have to say something back to their face.
01:53:01
ShereeVWatkins
You are.
01:53:06
Blackknight
The change begins when you stop being enslaved by your fear. You cannot be great. You cannot succeed in life. If you're paralyzed by your fear, that's just not only with the post office, that's a life lesson. Never let your fear overwhelm you that you, will that you will allow somebody to do you any kind of way. When you woke up this morning, you was a man or you was a woman.
01:53:35
Blackknight
or whatever you, wherever you want to be. I yeah ain't no judgment over there the judgment free zone. Don't let your fear paralyze you from standing with the respect that you have earned that Jesus gave you. So don't, don't let that be something that you afraid to do. But if you don't want to, you, we will black your screen out. We will change your name to, you know what I'm saying? Draroni drone and let you speak your peace.
01:54:03
Blackknight
And we might, and we also will change your voice on here. We'll, we'll, we'll get that, get that figured out and you can sound like a robot, but we'll let you get your truth off.
01:54:14
ShereeVWatkins
Say the vowel.
01:54:15
Blackknight
That's it. What you got? Walking clothes. closes out
01:54:19
ShereeVWatkins
Just closing it up, just patting back, you know, this is a safe zone. So, you know, tune in, stay tuned. Get the information if you don't got it.
01:54:31
ShereeVWatkins
No question is a dumb question. If you don't know, you don't know.
01:54:34
Blackknight
No questions, no question. And get your big oil, because Diddy took all of it.
01:54:38
ShereeVWatkins
We'll appreciate it.
01:54:39
Fee
And just know we fighting this fight with y'all.
01:54:42
ShereeVWatkins
Yep.
01:54:43
Blackknight
All day, every day. That's all we want to do. We want we want everybody to be in a better position. my My overall thing is I want the post office to be better when I live when i leave it. Somebody left the door open for me, and I came in, and I'm being provided a living provider for my family.
01:55:00
Blackknight
I want to leave that door open for somebody else. And only the only way we do that, we fix it from within. Let's not fight with each other. Let's inform each other. Let's give each other information so our company can be a better company. I'm done, LA. Whatever you got.
01:55:16
lastyles
You got some fee.
01:55:17
Fee
Nah, just have a good productive work with guys.
01:55:21
ShereeVWatkins
Thank you, because I got to be there in the morning.
01:55:21
lastyles
I saw that. With that, air everybody stay safe. um Just just a reminder. um If your wife make a sound just for you on Sunday night football day, does she wrong?
01:55:25
ShereeVWatkins
Pray for me.
01:55:35
lastyles
And you could definitely contact us at the Husbands of America.
01:55:36
Blackknight
in Rome.
01:55:40
lastyles
we We're going to be starting a new union for Husbands of America. We're going to represent you and get you what you need.
01:55:44
Blackknight
Yes.
01:55:46
lastyles
If your wife is not putting out the way she's supposed to, we're going to represent you. She making sandwiches on game night, we're going to represent you.
01:55:49
Blackknight
Show will.
01:55:52
lastyles
she She's showing up with an attitude. If you're waking up to her and she got something tied around her head looking like Watkins, we're going to represent you. That ain't right and you deserve better.
01:55:59
Fee
Y'all not about to sit here and do that to us.
01:56:00
Blackknight
No, no, no, I like no, no, no, why no, no, I can't.
01:56:00
ShereeVWatkins
yeah
01:56:01
Fee
You ain't about to sit here and do that to us.
01:56:02
ShereeVWatkins
but you know what you know what you know what see hopefully they ready to prepare they ask for that five day notice the representative for that too hey hope you give him somewhere to go
01:56:02
lastyles
this
01:56:08
Fee
Exactly. yeah
01:56:12
Blackknight
I look, I look, I look.
01:56:14
lastyles
Listen, I'm just letting people know what we got going on.
01:56:14
Blackknight
Look, and guys, stop letting your woman put put put the house in in her name. That's what you do. Stop letting her put the house in her name. So when she give you that five day notice, you can call, and you can call the sheriff department and say, this five day notice for you.
01:56:29
ShereeVWatkins
You ain't got to have your name on the leash. As long as you've been there for about two weeks, you can get a little, you know, they ain't going to put you out.
01:56:32
Fee
ye Yep.
01:56:35
ShereeVWatkins
But don't be acting crazy. I'm scared now.
01:56:38
Blackknight
the a Look.
01:56:39
lastyles
Now look, look, look, but watch this, watch this.
01:56:40
Blackknight
look.
01:56:42
lastyles
Hey, make sure you get mail there for at least a year.
01:56:46
Blackknight
yeahp
01:56:46
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
01:56:46
lastyles
We'll talk about that.
01:56:47
lastyles
We'll talk about that upcoming, you know what I'm saying?
01:56:49
Fee
i i know and i know what And I know what to do for that ass if you do, brother.
01:56:49
ShereeVWatkins
He going to talk.
01:56:49
lastyles
About behind the scenes.
01:56:50
Blackknight
it
01:56:53
ShereeVWatkins
Right.
01:56:53
Fee
I'm going to the court systems and you're getting out of here.
01:56:53
ShereeVWatkins
like
01:56:53
lastyles
Listen, listen.
01:56:55
Blackknight
Yep Look the the way energy beyond your name Hey
01:56:58
lastyles
Listen.
01:56:59
ShereeVWatkins
We'll do that squadin' shit.
01:57:00
Fee
Eviction.
01:57:01
ShereeVWatkins
We'll do that squadin' over here.
01:57:02
Fee
Right, you vixen!
01:57:03
ShereeVWatkins
We'll do that squadin'.
01:57:04
lastyles
Ain't no squatting to get mail there.
01:57:05
ShereeVWatkins
Not over here, baby.
01:57:06
Fee
but
01:57:06
lastyles
What you talking about?
01:57:07
ShereeVWatkins
I don't care what he gets there.
01:57:08
lastyles
You lay there.
01:57:09
ShereeVWatkins
I don't care what he gets there.
01:57:10
lastyles
You lay there.
01:57:11
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah, okay.
01:57:11
lastyles
You in there.
01:57:12
Blackknight
Put that we energy bill in your name. This is really a show for ice coffee, but we just don't, it's really a show.
01:57:16
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah. but
01:57:20
Blackknight
We're going to bring them back on this show right here. Cause I don't know what women be talking about. All I can tell you is all I can say is I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you a sneak peek into ice coffee.
01:57:25
lastyles
They be trying to get off.
01:57:29
ShereeVWatkins
Off and on.
01:57:33
Blackknight
I just want to know if you're 30, if you, if you're 30 and you don't have a child, we're going to have to have a coming to Jesus moment.
01:57:43
ShereeVWatkins
Coffee, you know what? I'm 40 and I don't have a child. What?
01:57:48
lastyles
So you 10 years behind, yo, yo, you 10 years past due.
01:57:48
ShereeVWatkins
What? Yeah, you want this?
01:57:50
Blackknight
Yeah, yeah.
01:57:51
ShereeVWatkins
You know what? Y'all gonna get the smoke.
01:57:54
Fee
They want it.
01:57:55
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
01:57:55
Fee
They most definitely wanted the night.
01:57:56
ShereeVWatkins
they they really they They really do.
01:57:58
lastyles
but Listen, this, this ain't, this ain't got nothing to do with y'all.
01:58:00
ShereeVWatkins
hey They are.
01:58:01
lastyles
This ain't got nothing to do with y'all.
01:58:01
ShereeVWatkins
Coffee's been on that all night feed.
01:58:02
lastyles
We was talking to the male.
01:58:04
ShereeVWatkins
No, all night.
01:58:05
lastyles
We was talking about the male, the male listeners.
01:58:05
Blackknight
we
01:58:06
Fee
So y'all going to back up off of us.
01:58:07
lastyles
They ain't got nothing to do with y'all.
01:58:09
Fee
Females in charge now.
01:58:10
ShereeVWatkins
So, yeah, we we got this. Wait till the next one.
01:58:14
lastyles
the
01:58:14
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah, okay.
01:58:15
lastyles
See, that that thought process is the problem, y'all, but we gonna address that.
01:58:16
ShereeVWatkins
They smiling now.
01:58:17
Blackknight
one
01:58:18
ShereeVWatkins
Yeah.
01:58:18
Fee
Hahahaha!
01:58:19
lastyles
We gonna address that.
01:58:19
Blackknight
a Please.
01:58:20
ShereeVWatkins
They smiling now.
01:58:22
lastyles
You know what I'm saying? With that, again, y'all make sure y'all be safe, protect each other, protect yourselves. If you a carry, keep your head on the swivel. You know what I'm saying? If you work in a plant or in an annex, just be safe down there.
01:58:33
lastyles
Be careful. People be just doing whatever the case is. Mail handlers on the mules. Heard about people getting their hands ran over and things of the nature. Just be safe in general. Everybody out there, protect the, Your mental for those of you who's working in the stations, you know what I'm saying?
01:58:46
lastyles
They use your tools, use your tools. I can never stress that enough. 1767 for safety issues.
01:58:50
Blackknight
Not baby order. Not them tools.
01:58:54
lastyles
Well, it depends on what you're doing.
01:58:55
ShereeVWatkins
If you got exactly, if you need to slide through to get out.
01:59:00
lastyles
The Carter got her, not bat feel there got her, The setup, the setup real, you know, real.
01:59:01
ShereeVWatkins
but
01:59:02
Blackknight
See? See? She just told on herself. She just told on herself. See? I knew she was in there. I told y'all.
01:59:08
ShereeVWatkins
if you
01:59:08
Blackknight
I told y'all.
01:59:09
ShereeVWatkins
yeah
01:59:09
Blackknight
See?
01:59:10
ShereeVWatkins
no
01:59:10
Blackknight
See them come out? See them come out?
01:59:10
ShereeVWatkins
and and and
01:59:12
lastyles
See, let's throw a little bait out there.
01:59:13
Blackknight
Paws.
01:59:13
ShereeVWatkins
they
01:59:14
Blackknight
Paws.
01:59:14
lastyles
Let's throw a little bait out there.
01:59:14
ShereeVWatkins
and
01:59:15
Blackknight
Yep.
01:59:15
lastyles
You know what I'm saying? She went right forward.
01:59:16
Blackknight
Mm-hmm.
01:59:17
lastyles
You know what I'm saying?
01:59:17
ShereeVWatkins
and
01:59:17
Blackknight
Yep.
01:59:18
ShereeVWatkins
see oh mary
01:59:19
lastyles
You know what I'm saying?
01:59:20
Blackknight
ye Yeah.
01:59:21
ShereeVWatkins
and
01:59:21
lastyles
Got her.
01:59:21
Blackknight
Yeah.
01:59:23
lastyles
With that, we're going to get up out of here, man. We appreciate you all stopping by. You know what I'm saying?
01:59:26
Blackknight
Wow.
01:59:26
ShereeVWatkins
Good night, everybody.
01:59:27
lastyles
Be safe. Be careful. Be careful on another one.
01:59:29
Blackknight
Peace. Love.
01:59:30
ShereeVWatkins
All right.
01:59:30
Blackknight
We out.
01:59:31
ShereeVWatkins
Peace.
01:59:36
Fee
I have.