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Beyond the Saddle: Circle Y’s Legacy and the Myths of Saddle Fit
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In this engaging episode, host Taylor McAdams welcomes Jill Holloman and Scott McClaugherty from Circle Y Saddles. With over 13 years at Circle Y, Jill shares insights into the company's rich history and its position as the world’s top saddle producer, while Scott, with 25 years at Casper Companies, discusses Circle Y’s future since its acquisition. The episode dives deep into saddle craftsmanship, busting common myths about saddle fit and emphasizing the importance of proper saddle trees. Jill also opens up about her return to barrel racing after a 12-year break, encouraging listeners to reignite their own passions. Tune in for a fascinating conversation about innovation, community, and camaraderie in the Western industry!
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Introduction and Podcast Promotion
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody and thanks for listening to the kick your roots up podcast. As you always like, subscribe, share this with your friends, comment below what you want to see. You like it, don't like it, tell us. We want to hear it all.
Meet Circle Y Saddlery Guests
00:00:11
Speaker
We are joined to debt today by an iconic brand Circle Y Saddlery and they have a story to tell. I love the connection there that it's texas a Texas brand, Justin as well as a Texas brand. And so we have a lot to learn, but before we get to learn about the company, we've got to get to know the people first. So to my right, we have Jill Holloman and she's an account manager at Circle Y. Jill, how long have you been with Circle Y?
00:00:32
Speaker
I've been with them 13 and a half years. Okay, wow. Yeah, we're going to have to dive deep into that one. That's awesome, Jill. And then Scott McClarity. Scott, thank you for being on the podcast. A decision to hop in today. And how long have you been with the company? I've been with Casper Companies for 25 years. Wow. Okay. So together, this is a powerhouse. We have so much to talk about there. And I think let's just get started with you, Scott. Tell us about how you got to where you are today.
History and Innovations of Casper Companies
00:00:56
Speaker
Talk talk us through the 25 years of Casper and how you've gotten here.
00:01:00
Speaker
Yeah, so it started Casper Companies as a family owned and operated business based in Shiner, Texas. We've been in operation since 1898. So we're now in the fifth generation of management for the business. If you go back to the very beginning, Casper Companies started when Barbed Wire came to Texas. Okay, that's a fun fact. Yeah, the smooth wire was being taken down, so the founder of the company started making corn chuck baskets, force muzzles, things of that nature, and started selling them and kind of fast forward through the years, you know, developed the first wire shopping cart. So what you use at your grocery store was developed at Casper Companies. Okay, that's gonna be a quiz at the end of this. Yes. Who invented and developed the first shop wire shopping cart? There you go. Okay, Casper Industries. You know, so through that you'll find we're innovators.
00:01:45
Speaker
yeah You know, typically in problem solvers. Fast forward a few years beyond that, developed the coin-operated mechanism for newspaper stands. And we owned 90% of newspaper stand business in North America throughout the years. Wow! In Little Shiner, Texas. Yeah, Shiner, Texas, a town of 2,000 people.
00:02:06
Speaker
Home of Shiner Beer. Home of Shiner Beer, we're right across the street. Okay, wow.
Circle Y and Casper Companies Merger
00:02:12
Speaker
And then how I got involved with the business, Casper Companies owned ranch and truck accessories for 20 something years. Wow, look at that. So I worked in that area, in that part of the business for about 18 years. And then we have several other subsidiaries that I'm involved with with the business. We had the opportunity to buy Circle Eye in August of last year. So we acquired circle I and really excited to you know have circle as part of Casper companies Oh, yes, that is a huge win for you guys. I know as a fan of circle. I saw it was myself It's it's very big. So Jill kind of fill in the gaps there with circle. I I mean how tell us about your beginnings in 1960s. Yeah So I didn't start 1960 Circle Y was started in 1960 by Amanda his last name story and his family started this little saddle company and It blossomed into Circle Y and has been in Yocum, Texas the whole time The nice thing about Casper is they're nine miles from us. So it wasn't like I did something. Yeah, so we're really close and
00:03:18
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Most of all the employees know each other, so it makes it really family, but it's it's been a family business for you know almost 65 years. and um So they we do saddles, we do you know all of the accessories for horses, and we really strive to fill all the gaps of where everybody needs. So we we're really strong in trail, we're strong in barrel, we build great ranch and rope saddles. and um you know, any shape size human, any shape size shape and horse, we we cover all of that. um And we build beautiful products. We have really great craftsmen right there. And Yocum used to be known as the leather capital of the world. And that's where there was all the saddle companies were down there. And now it's basically us and one other that are still there. still Yeah, and we're very dominant. um I can
00:04:08
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I proudly say we are the number one saddle company in the world as far
Circle Y's Saddle Production and Global Reach
00:04:12
Speaker
as volume. Yes you are. and We build thousands of saddles a year. um We sell all over the world. We have accounts in Australia, Europe, all over the place. So we're a big deal.
00:04:24
Speaker
You are big we are a big deal. There's a few things that I learned when I was a little girl about Circle Y. One of them was my one of my first barrel saddles was a Martha Josie. Absolutely. And so you have you've been able to have over the years partnerships with Martha Josie, Sharon Camarillo. I'm just gonna look here really quick because Kelly Kaminski, that was another legend that I grew up listening to her name. Yeah, Clay Trian.
00:04:48
Speaker
Yes. Huge team roping because that just shows right there that you can do it all. exactly being You can, you can help everything with the cowgirls, but then also help the cowboys and probably more team rope. You probably sell more team roping saddles. No, we're, we're getting our in there. Okay. I mean, Clay's really helping us and we bake. We sell a lot of the just.
00:05:07
Speaker
Non-name one circle white okay roping saddles and we sell a lot to stores for that entry-level price point for the weekend roper And now we're starting to get more into the the really elite roping and the ranch saddles. That's our next ah little hurdle hey we' doing that Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, we have one of our founders or one of our higher-ups executive says crawl walk run and And I think that's so true. Like the businesses in any business crawl, yeah you got to crawl first, get a master it. And so, okay. So the other, the second part of Circle Y, how I have grown to love you guys was I was a rodeo queen. Anyone who's listened, they know that out there. I've talked about my trauma. No, I'm just kidding. Um, no, but Circle Y saddles is, um, a sponsor for miss rodeo America. And Justin is sponsor of, is a sponsor of miss rodeo America. So that's so cool. The worlds are coming together. yeah I'm thinking this is so awesome. Yes, we do the Circle Wide does the saddles for the Queen contest for Miss Rodeo America. And so we ah the award saddle is ours. And then we also do the saddles that they do the horsemanship in. So they test, they switch horses and they can't ride in their own equipment. So they all ride in our saddles. and Which is huge. Yes. And we never come home with any. the
00:06:13
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Queens always buy the saddles. Oh, it's a good sign. It really is. It's kind of a win-win for you guys. You can almost know going into it. Yeah, we're going to give this to you guys, but we're probably going to make money along the way. Exactly. And honestly, that just goes to show how reputable you guys are and oh yeah how good your fit is. I think that we need to spend just a second talking about that because there's Even on your website, which I love, by the way, that you guys broke down the myths of so of saddle fits for horses, because um a lot of people think that the saddle needs to fit a little bit further on the withers, or they think even further back, I've seen some of that. So talk about the fit and how perfect or important it is for getting the perfect fit for your horse, which makes everything collide together, go
Saddle Fitting Myths and Facts
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together. Well, I'm going to squash one myth right now. There is no standard in the saddle tree business.
00:06:58
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So if you go buy tires, you could go buy a 195, 215, whatever. It's the same size and shape and measurement in every tire company. In saddle companies, there is no standard. So for you to say I need a wide tree, it won't fit the same in a other brands. Different brands. And even within the Circle Y brand because of the discipline. So a wide trail saddle is going to fit differently than a wide barrel saddle versus a wide ramp saddle. Yes. Because of the where it fits on the horse and how it's meant to sit and for the discipline it is. So barrel racers, we want to sit deep, but we won't be able to get forward and get back. Team ropers want to stay right in the middle of their horse. So they're sitting on a wider, more close contact saddle. So those bar angles are going to be different. So what you do is don't make it rocket science.
00:07:46
Speaker
Too many people make it rocket science. They get too far in the weeds and they watch too much stuff on YouTube. So I'm gonna make it very simple for everybody right now. okay Put it on your horse's back without a pad. Put your hand up underneath there and feel where it's tight and where it's sitting. Step back, see if there's any gaps under there where it's bridging, which is where it's making contact in two different spots and not making contact. Which is not good, right? You wanted the hole?
00:08:11
Speaker
You want the whole bars. okay So if these are the bars, you want that to make as much contact as possible. If it's bridging, it could be sitting right here on the bar and right here and you can stick your hand under there. That's causing pain points on the horse's back. um That could be a pad issue where you could just pad and solve that problem or that saddle isn't for that horse.
00:08:29
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um then step back and make sure as it's sitting level on your horse it's not tipping down in the front which means typically it's too wide so it's like a big hat and it's sitting way down you want to sit in that sweet spot if it's tipped up in the front it's too narrow or if it won't sit down on either side it's too narrow so it's just sitting in the wrong spot of the rib cage You want to get as close to perfect as you can. It will never be perfect. And then you also take into account how much do you ride? If you're only riding for 30 minutes and you're just walking around the pasture and checking cows, the fit doesn't have to be perfect perfect because your horse, you're only up there so long. It's not going to, it's like women and you'll understand high heels. You can stand to be in high heels for a couple hours. They are the most uncomfortable shoes. Yes. 30 minutes. And you're out. If you're going to sit most of the day, you can wear high heels.
00:09:19
Speaker
same thing goes with a saddle it doesn't have to be a perfect fit i get parents all the time this saddle doesn't fit my kid's horse your kid weighs 40 pounds and he's riding him for 20 minutes that horse doesn't even know he's up there and i'm not saying you don't a bad fit but get it as close as possible. And there is a life expectancy on your saddle pad. I know that breaks a lot of people's hearts, but most... My dad out there, there are some people that are getting hurt by this, so that's good. Most saddle pads are dog beds after two years, and some of them even sooner than that. There are people that said, this pad's only eight years old. The sweat and the dirt and the horse hair that gets built in there makes hard crusty dirt clods in your saddle pad, and you can't wash it out.
00:10:04
Speaker
The wool has broke down or the padding material has broke down and you don't wear socks that are eight and nine years old. So don't put them on your horses back. So there's a lot of that that plays in. Another thing to take into consideration is there's three, so four seasons in Texas. We only have one, two maybe, but most of the other season. Yes. And football season in the same day. Yes. We may have fall, winter and spring all in the same day. yeah Um,
00:10:31
Speaker
Your horse's body and confirmation changes with the seasons. In the winter, they get a little fatter. They put an extra hair coat on, which changes the shape. We can't really do that. Yeah, right here. A winter whale. And your horse's confirmation. So you might go to a thinner pad in the winter because he's plumped up a little bit. So your saddle's going to sit a little tighter. In the summer, when they're sleek and they've shed off their hair, your saddle's going to fit a little bigger. So you could go with a little thicker pad. Typically, a three-quarter inch pad is all you ever need.
00:10:59
Speaker
If you're team roping, please don't use two one inch pads because that's way too much and you're changing the confirmation of your horse's back. Wow. So the biggest scenario I can give people to make it simple is think of your foot in your boot.
00:11:15
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If your boot fits great on your foot, why would you put two pairs of socks? It doesn't make your foot more comfortable in there. It makes it crammed in the hole and it's more squished and pinching and your foot's confirmation has changed so much. Now with two pairs of socks, the boots don't fit anymore.
00:11:33
Speaker
If your saddle's fitting tight, I hear people all the time saying, I'm going to put two pads on or a really thick one and a half inch pad because I want more padding. Well, all you've done is changed his confirmation that saddle fits horribly. I'd rather you be in a half inch pad if it's tight. Then, yeah you know, so find a good dense pad, Reinsman, and ha ah three quarter inches perfect.
00:11:57
Speaker
i I feel so, you've opened my eyes and I've ridden my whole life. I never even, of course we changed our paths, but I didn't know the reason. I was just like, okay, we're gonna do this. yeah you so You did mention something else too about sitting it on the horse's back. And I see this a lot. People will either put it too far forward or too far back. And then when they put it so far back, it falls in the hole behind the shoulder blade. And they're like, see, my saddle doesn't fit. Well, when you stand back and look where your rigging is hanging, it should be about one hand behind the elbow on the the to the cinch.
00:12:26
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So if it's clear back here, your rigging, you can't cinch your horse up. It's going to be sitting like this because your cinch is too far back. And they try and pull it forward. And so your rigging should hang right there. That's one of the signs of where should my saddle fit on the horse's back with his confirmation.
00:12:42
Speaker
And you're so knowledgeable. So this might be a hot take. So forgive me if I am backing you into a corner, we can totally skip it. But I feel like in counseling, bear with me. In counseling, they say our job is to like get you out of counseling because we want you to be better and stuff for you guys. Your job is probably to not have horses and therapy or a chiropractic therapy or awkward, or whatever. Yes. Because you want their confirmation to be good. Yes. Right? Yeah. And so we build saddles to fit 90% of the horses out. They're the general public. And we also build different trees. We build trees for foundation bread. So if your horse is that real round flatback, we make trees for that. We also make trees for the walking horses that have the real short back, high withered or real round rat rib cage. So we make a
00:13:24
Speaker
You know, we make the the gated trees, then we make everything else is based on quarter horse bars, but that doesn't mean that only fits quarter horses. So you just have to look at your horses back. We make mule trees to fit mules. um So there's different reasons for all of that, but we try and take all the guesswork out of it. And so you as a consumer cannot stress about it. We deal a lot with customers who make too much out of it and they stress so much about it. that they're not even having fun now. They're so afraid they're hurting their horse. And I'll go do saddle fits and push on their back. And i thought there's no sore spots on your horse's back. You're good. Pad a little different. Maybe buy a new pad. And there are still times you have to shim because your horse may have a little abnormal. um None of us are symmetrical on both sides of our bodies. And that same goes with horses. um you know I have two feet that are two different sizes. I don't go buy two different size shoes. I find the pair that fits the best between the two, and I live with it. meet them um you Meet in the middle. Yeah. And you'll find horses that might need a little thicker pad on this side than this side. And it's, you know, just use common sense and think I'm trying to make these two bars that run down the horse's back, yeah make the most contact for the most comfort and then go from there.
00:14:35
Speaker
And one thing that you mentioned, which I know and you know, we all know what a saddle tree is, but some people out there might not. yeah So I know that it's a tree because it's made out of wood, but tell me a little bit about the history of a tree. You know, tell me about a saddle tree. Okay.
Saddle Construction Materials
00:14:48
Speaker
Pretend I don't know. Okay. So, um, saddle trees are mostly made out of wood and they'll have, um, and sometimes they'll only have like a wood candle and a wood pommel. Um, the horns are typically lead, um, metal, not leather. They're wrapped in leather. And then we wrap our trees in either fiberglass or we call it Durahide, or we also wrap most of our performance saddles in Kevlar, which is super strong. So all the strength is in the Kevlar, not the wood. um When it's fiberglass, then you use a heavier wood. So that gives you the strength in the wood versus the fiberglass. Fiberglass is really strong too, but the Kevlar makes it super strong. And um with those trees, we can offer a lifetime warranty on the tree. oh wow The other ones we offer a 10-year warranty, so we have a really good warranty program with our trees. um But it's basically the frame that holds the whole saddle together, like the frame of your truck. So, you know, in your truck you have the frame, the chassis and all that, that your comfy seats and your, you know, your stereo is attached to. It makes the whole truck ride. yeah And then we also make flex trees.
00:15:48
Speaker
um i'm I'm gonna be confident again and say that we probably make the best flex tree in the world. Everybody's tried to copy us. You can claim it. I'm claiming it, yes. yeah um You heard it here first. You heard it here first. And um and it basically people think it's the flex is like a treeless it's not and it basically works like leaf springs in your truck so at neutral it's not flexing. i never But as your horse, if you picture a barrel horse running into a turn, they're going to arc their whole body. The front of the bars and the back of the bars are just going to give slightly and just give that to release with still having a solid top half where it's making contact on the horse. So it's not flopping around. I hear a lot of people say, oh, I don't want that because it's treeless. No, it has a solid tree in it. It's the lower bars flex slightly.
00:16:34
Speaker
um And for us, it's very popular in some of our barrel saddles, which makes perfect sense, yeah and our trail saddles. Which is interesting, but probably for the more movement. The movement, they're going up and down the hills and stuff like that. And the comfort, because trail riders tend to ride longer than, say, a barrel racers, maybe an hour. um And then the trail riders could be all day, the sack lunch, you know, so it's a little more comfortable. um And then we make a treeless saddle that's the best trailers on the market.
Exploring Treeless Saddles
00:17:02
Speaker
So it has a solid wood front and a solid wood back and then it's neoprene skirts so you have no bars and so they're great for fitting. It still has to fit the horse because of the candle and this the wood parts still have to fit but generally it takes a lot of the fit issues out because you're not fitting the bar spread.
00:17:19
Speaker
so Okay, so when in doubt if something if you can't get a saddle to fit right maybe treeless is something Yeah, you could give it a try and we have stores all over the country that you could go try them and go to any barrel race There's treeless everywhere and just try a circle wide one and throw it on there and then you can order your one Okay, and right online to write online. Yeah, you can order online or we'll lead you that you just get we have a locator in there and you can go to stores and they do saddle fits as well at stores and take your horses there and You know, I can't tell you how many times I've pulled up to retailers in the area and there's a horse that was in the trailer that they're now getting out to size. I'm like, heck yes, that is the best. Bring your horse to the store. Yeah. A lot of the stores have really knowledgeable people that can help you with, and they just, everybody wants to make it.
00:18:01
Speaker
They try and keep it simple. The biggest advice I could give anybody is don't make it too complicated. Go back to common sense and go, wait, what's my objective? I want the bars to fit this horse. When you start making it too complicated, you, nothing will fit. And I will tell you that. And you'll worry so much. So but we talk a lot of people down off of the cliff going, you're going to be okay. yeah Your horse is not impossible to fit. And some of them I've seen just need to pull a plow. They'll never fit, you know, they're just not meant to ride, but It's okay. That's okay. Yeah.
Jill Holloman's Return to Barrel Racing
00:18:29
Speaker
And for you, so you're very knowledgeable on the saddle side on circle wide, but then also you're a barrel racer too. So tell us about that, your experience. You said you just started up. Well, I started i yeah i started backup So I ran from 11 years old up until I was 40 and I'm only 39 95 right now. So there's that 21 21 and I took 10 or 12 years off. because work was just busy and crazy and they were just standing in the pasture. So I sold everything, trailer, went to a car, everything. Yeah, start working for Circle Y.
00:19:01
Speaker
ah star work of circle y And um I thought, well, if I ever get back into it, I know where I can get a saddle. So I just let it all go. I kind of just needed a break. And um during COVID, I do a whole lot of sitting home and I was like, hmm.
00:19:15
Speaker
I kind of wanted to get and back into it, so Santa Claus got me a gift certificate. Thank you, Santa. He gave me a budget, and we went and found a diamond in the rough. and um So I started running again three years ago, and the last couple of years have just been chaotic, so I haven't really ran. But this year, my New Year's resolution was I was going to start running again, so I've been hitting some jackpots. and Not as young as I used to be, but we're doing all right. So that's okay. yeah I'm at least doing it. And I will say that because it takes a lot to get back. And I talked to a lot of older women that are getting back into it. It's kind of funny after the kids are raised, they're like, I'm getting back into it. And we have our own little mom group that we keep everybody.
00:19:57
Speaker
Okay, you can do this and we cheer each other on. I'm in a lot of senior races and it's a good time because there's no kids there, no offense kids, but it's a good time. You feel like you have a shot. Yeah. And Texas too. I was in Oklahoma and I always heard how tough Texas is. So even if you feel like you have a good run, you could not even make the money, you know? Yeah.
00:20:15
Speaker
No, and everything's, you know, it's been going good and I'm getting better everyone and that's, I'm setting my personal goals and everything's going good. So I'm happy with that. And i I'm meeting so many nice people out there too. And so it's been fun to get back with that camaraderie and, yeah you know, and Meeting people in the industry like just Getting with this group at Casper and the the opening the doors of meeting all these other people and you know now with the new hire over here and Getting to work with you guys and all the opportunities I just really love where I'm at in my life and where the industry is and it you know, it's everybody wants to be a cowboy and here we are and you know
00:20:55
Speaker
Everybody put your boots on. I don't care if you have a horse or not. Let's all get back to being country Yeah, make it country again. and Yeah, you're exactly right spot on. I'm so glad you said that because it does it feels like Everyone is going back to country. Um Zach top. Have you heard of him? I just the other day my husband said have you heard this kid? He sounds like George Street George Strait, vintage country, like what we're needing. Yeah. Exactly. And I think that's so good. Like, especially with like, we have Jena Paula, Lainey Wilson, so many people that are really core nineties Western country. I'm like, thank you. This is a time to be alive. Us that were born in the nineties, we can say that we've been a part of the nineties country and now the 2024 country. Exactly. Yeah. It's the new me old country. Yes. We're bringing it back. Yeah.
00:21:39
Speaker
You're bringing back old boots from when I was okay. Let's talk about that. Ropers, the lasers. Yeah. Look at that. I'm like, wow. Good job guys. And I don't know if I can say this, so they might bleat me out for this, but we're coming with men's lasers, which is like, that's exactly how it started. Yeah. So that's exciting. viage Here comes the law man jeans and the Rocky mountains, you know? they No back pocket. Multiple buttons in the front. Really long jacket zippers for us. Yeah. Yeah. It's coming back. Hey, bring it. I'm excited. so Well, I have loved this time and I guess before we go, I can't help but ask you since you're restarting into the Western industry. Well, you're not restarting the West restarting into barrel racing. Yes.
00:22:21
Speaker
What is your best piece of advice for someone? Because I know there's a lot of us out there that had to take a break during college. We're getting our careers started. Who knows? We're even switching gears, whatever it is. What's your best advice for someone wanting to get back at it?
00:22:32
Speaker
Well, I just say ah if the opportunity is right, go for it. yeah Because you're never going to do it if you just keep saying, if this happens, I will. Find the can if. This one taught me can if. So, you know, make it happen. I got my horse and then I rode her for the first year and didn't even leave the house.
00:22:51
Speaker
because I was terrified. The next year, I didn't go anywhere, but I hauled her to the vet and to the shewer. That was the only time I used my trailer. And now that I'm back in it, just like I said, the camaraderie and just being in the saddle, my some of my days are so stressed. I come home and it might be 8.30 at night and I've got 15 minutes till dark to get on and just go lopes in circles or just walk around. It is to be around a horse.
00:23:15
Speaker
We have a full episode about that. I know, right? And just to be in this industry in that level is just so wonderful. And it's I mean, I just keep going back to the camaraderie. i The other night I was at a barrel race and stood in line waiting for my awards. Yeah, it sounds like I'm braggy braggy, but it was.
00:23:32
Speaker
Um, but I stood and talked to this lady and she was in the same boat as me. She took 20 years off to have kids and do all that. And now she's back running and she goes, I just love being back. I'm not as worried about things. You know, it's just get back into it and don't wait. You know,
00:23:47
Speaker
don't do it if you're not financially ready because it's true a bunch to bite off, I will say. But we were just talking about that. He's got a daughter going to college, rodeoing, and and um you know they're expensive dogs. They are. But the opportunities there take it because this industry and being gone, the new things that are out there that are out there for you in this industry now makes things easier, better fits, better, you know, more education. Um, people get down the rabbit hole on bits. There's so much more education out there about what bit to use. And it's just easier this time around for people. I think if you get back into it, if you just do it, follow your gut, whatever, that is the best advice yes truly and have fun. That's what I'm doing. I'm going just having a good time. I come down the alley and I'm like, well,
00:24:37
Speaker
Take care of me, Lord. And I just go for it. And I come out and I went, oh, that was so much fun. I want to go again. So, you know, that's what you got to do. Yeah, yeah that's how you're right. Have fun. You got to remember that sometimes it's hard with everything you do. Yes. Everything you do. Yeah. Have fun. We have fun at work. We have fun. Okay. I've heard that.
00:24:53
Speaker
Diana said, very good people, fun people. I love that. I'm so happy for you guys. We're a fun time. When did the merger happen? Last August. One year ago. Yeah, it was. One year. Like almost on the button, yeah. Wow. Okay, so future plans. Without telling them too much, what do you have in the works? The future's bright. It is bright. We've taken the first year to really embrace the business and merge the two cultures.
00:25:21
Speaker
Um, and you know, we're, the future's very bright. We've got some fun things coming, uh, from product side or branding perspective.
Future Plans for Casper and Circle Y
00:25:28
Speaker
Uh, you have some ambitious growth, uh, goals for the company. So, you know, we're, we're really excited. And for us, the one thing we like, you know, like Jill said, just the people, you know, the, the people in the industry are so much fun and they're just, they're genuine. And that's the, one of the biggest things we like about it. yeah And that is honestly refreshing because if you go to other industries industries that are so cutthroat and competitive and nasty, it's a breath of fresh air to realize at the end of the day, no matter what we sell, no matter who we're competitors with, we're still humans. And I think people i think appreciate that more in the Western industry. Yeah. This morning you had three different vendors helping another vendor, their whole booth fell down. And three different competitors, literally competitors, we were all up there helping put their booth together.
00:26:14
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So it was, you know, that's the camaraderie. That is that right there, along with alongside rodeo competitors, you know, rodeo competitors travel all the time against their most competitive partner, but they just, they help each other out. Yeah. You're broke down. Jump in, put them in my trailer. Yeah. Absolutely. You forgot your saddle. Here's the saddle. Here you go. Let me hook you up. Well, this conversation has been so fun and I'm sure we can have another conversation down the line of just everything that you have going forward and everything big. But I do appreciate you guys taking the time out of your busy schedules here to have to be on the Kick Your Boots Out podcast.
Conclusion and Social Media Engagement
00:26:48
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Yes. Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us.
00:26:49
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Of course. And if you guys are interested in following Circle Y on social media, um they're on Instagram and Facebook, primarily are the two ones you're going to want to reach out to. So on Instagram, you can find them at Circle Y saddles and Facebook, same thing, Circle Y saddles. Thank you so much for listening to their story. If you liked what you heard, go follow them. first of all, but also like, subscribe, share this with your friends, tell everyone about it. If you have questions about how your saddle should fit or maybe something that you're having a problem with your horse and saddle, feel free to comment below. We can pass those questions along and I know they'll be happy to answer them. So thanks for joining us on the Kick Your Boots Up podcast.
00:27:24
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Thanks for joining us on Kick Your Boots Up. I'm your host, Taylor McAdams, and we can't wait to share the next story of the West. Until then, feel free to like, subscribe, and leave us a review. Follow us on social media at Just In Boots to keep up with our next episode, and we'll see you the next time you kick your boots up.