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TIDBITS EPISODE 4
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The gang gets philosophical, particle-logical, and a little pixel-logical. Gaz dives into how America's most famous artist painted outside the sociopolitical lines of his time, Rob explains how people act a lot more like subatomic particles than we’d like to admit, and Mike takes us on a detour that spawns one of the most popular video games ever. It’s brushes, bosons, and button-mashing brilliance… all in the perfectly unbalanced 4th episode from The Tidbits Tower!
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Transcript
Introduction and Welcome
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guys everybody, welcome to
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that only goes to decide that at day guard
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Tidbits! We're here in the Tidbits Tower. It's me, Rob. Tidbits Rob. And with me as always is... Rob's friend Mike.
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Here I am. Rob's friend Mike! Here he is. is And then of course joining us... ah Rob's mentor, Gaz.
Cat Anecdote and Episode Feedback
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yeah Jazz, you'll appreciate this. My cat has one of those cones on because she had a thing she was like licking and inflaming. Anyway, she just knocked over. don't know why you think I appreciate certain things.
00:00:47
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No, wait, wait. I didn't get to it yet. She just knocked over Jazz, the action, the the transformer. Did she break Jazz? No. Well, yes, but it's fixed. My room is a bit messy, but it's actually much cleaner. I just worked on it recently, so I'm surprised. Look at this. Look at this patch of clean right behind me. We're in the episode now. Nice patch of clean.
00:01:04
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Clean. That's very hard in the episode. Hey, I wanted to tell you guys, we got a lot of great feedback from the last episode with our guest star, James. A lot of people really, really enjoyed James. I think people liked that his tidbit was a little different. I pretty much, got a lot of people telling me who their, what their favorite tidbit was. And it was pretty much a tie between all of us except Mike. Nobody liked Mike's.
00:01:27
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People were fiercely defending their choices. People who loved Gaz's really loved Gaz in the same way I do because I kind of have a soft spot for Orson Welles and Transformers.
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People who liked mine thought mine was the more erudite learned one. And people just appreciated James's because James's was a little bit just different. And it was kind of a cool take on Tim. Certainly well prepared. Probably the most well prepared that anyone has ever been on this show. From all our episodes and all our guests, the most well prepared.
00:01:56
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Yes. I think we can expect, not tonight, not this day, but we can expect some guest tidbitters in the future.
Purpose of Tidbits Show
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What does this go about, Rob? Oh, well, Tidbits is a show where we come together and we share storied bits of trivia. Bits of trivia that have a story behind them, maybe even a little twist. Something fun, something interesting.
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And which of us shall go first? You know, i was thinking, I don't think I've gone first. So if you guys want i'll i'll be the sacrificial lamb okay yes it's always hard to go first. Apparently my bennys tidbit wasn't beloved because it went first, i think. but Shall
00:02:33
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Okay, I thought about framing this the way I have several times and the way Rob seems to always, we'll see if he continues this, where it's like, here's a bunch of interesting facts that seem disconnected. Then you spin it around. Then, oh, look, it was your brother the whole time.
Norman Rockwell's Artistic Journey
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I'm not going to do that.
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We're talking about Norman Rockwell. That's the person. There's no big reveal. Norman Rockwell, the painter slash illustrator, most famous for working on the Saturday Evening Post doing those covers that represented America in like pre-World War II in this iconic, idealistic way. I love him.
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I do too. Now, Mike being an art student might know this. I was also an art student, but I didn't know this, but I think this is going be thing that most people don't know when I get into it. So just again, to recap, he was very popular. He worked for like five decades.
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He wasn't very respected in his time by other artists. He was very well liked, famous, popular, made money, but a lot of people dismissed him as sort of, oh, he's he's he's not a painter. he's not an artist. He's an illustrator. And he just does this banal vanilla stuff that everybody loves. And you know nowadays it's not that way. Artists recognize the craftsmanship that went into it and everything. But he was kind of okay with that because he was working, you know that was what his goal was.
00:03:33
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um But a few things started changing. One of the things was America was gearing up for World War II. We weren't involved yet, but it was becoming clear were going to need to get involved. The Nazis were pushing into England and other things where we felt we needed to get involved. He was very patriotic. He had wanted to serve in World War one He was a very tall man who was a little underweight. He being an artist, so he didn't serve ah in combat, but he was he was very patriotic. He believed in the American dream and and he wanted to serve. So when World War II was coming, he was too old to serve, but he wanted to do his part. And ah Franklin Roosevelt, kind of preparing the country, gave a speech about these four freedoms that sum up America and the world that we want to live in. And the freedoms were um freedom of speech, freedom from want, freedom ah from war, and ah freedom of religion. So Norman Rockwell said, yes, and I'm going to do a series of four paintings representing this.
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And that will be how I'll contribute because they they will be used as essentially propaganda to help people want to join the cause. And they prints of them and posters were sold for bail bonds. And he raised some crazy amount. I think it was like $132 in war bonds with the sale of these that he donated. Interestingly, one of the most popular ones is one of the most famous Norman Rockwell paintings you've all seen, the Thanksgiving turkey one with the family around table.
00:04:42
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That was propaganda. Arguably, it was good propaganda to get us fight Nazis, but it was propaganda to get people to join the army and pay for a war. it Was that freedom from want? Freedom from want, yes. But funny enough, and actually, this leads into, I'm glad you picked up on that specifically, because of the four freedoms, that's the one that America didn't seem to be fulfilling, you know what i mean? and And a matter of fact, our culture, especially today, but back then, was more about, no, you should want, you should buy capitalism, and you know we're not really necessarily interested in feeding the poor and all this stuff.
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And he saw that, and he also saw the freedom of speech and how this was before the civil rights movement and and black people treated second class citizens. And he was not happy about that. And he had been asked in his Saturday evening posts pieces, how come he never had black people featured? Black people would be in it, but as like a porter or someone in the background or a servant, never as a main character. And he said, I wasn't allowed to.
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They literally told me I could not do it and it would upset people. And he started thinking about it. And his he as much as he loved America, he was very disappointed in America at this point. They weren't fulfilling the promises that he was hoping they would make. And so he quit the Saturday Evening Post and he went and got a job with Look Magazine with the express purpose of, I want creative freedom, do whatever I want. And he was the hottest artist for magazines in the world. So like, sure, fine.
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And the very first piece he did was one of his most famous, along with the four freedoms that I just talked about. um So the first piece he did when he had complete freedom was called The Problem We All Live With.
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And that was in 1964, the same year that Godzilla vs. Mothra came out. And that's the thing. That probably leapt into Rob's mind soon as he says that date. Most of our listeners will be like, yes, that is that year. And what he depicted was something happened four years earlier when Ruby Bridges, the six-year-old African-American girl, was on her way to William France Elementary School, which was an all-white public school that was being forced to integrate on November 14th in 1960.
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And so it's a painting, sort of from the point of view of the protesters, and you can't see any adult heads, you just see her and horrible racist graffiti behind her, and like that's how he started. And from then on, he still did nice stuff, but he would just make a point of showing integrated children playing together and and other scenes like that and sort of became more political in a way that most people don't think of him. And by today's standards, isn't even political at all.
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But back then, he was ah like almost a radical, know, especially for these mainstream publications he was working for. Interestingly, time goes by. you know he he also worked for the Boy Scouts of America and stuff. He died in, i think, 78. One of his last works was in 76 for the Boy Scouts, for the Bicentennial. and so He still you know loved America and and loved painting, for lack reason, schmaltzy things and idealistic things. and Arguably, his political work was idealistic, too, of what the America he wanted to see, what he wanted us to be. be. Unfortunately, he died in 78, but had he lived long enough to see Barack Obama as president in 2011, Ruby Bridges was invited to the White House and that painting of her that Norman Rockwell did was hanging when she met Barack Obama, the first black president of the United States.
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There isn't some big twist, but it's just like there's this whole side to him that somehow I never knew and i it's amazing. It was the brother.
00:07:36
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yeah yes time for follow-ups you mike you do a follow-up well so i did not know a couple things there fact a lot of that i guess i did not know i like that norman rockwell's origin is the same origin as steve rogers captain america he was weak and sickly to join the war effort he became a super soldier of painting and a and a champion for the rights of americans That kind of FDR America stuff, I think, is the stuff that us liberal types tend to to enjoy the most and feel the strongest, warmest feelings towards. That kind of Captain America type stuff. Yes. Kirby punching the Nazis type things we like.
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So that was my follow-ups. Rob, any additional follow-ups? No. Not really, except that it it reminded me, when I first came to my district that I work in, my supervisor told me the story of of how she was one of four of the first black students being integrated into essentially white schools. And she walked me through that experience and how frightening it was for her.
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And I respected this woman greatly, but I respected her even more after i realized she'd gone through that. I think I think it's kind of cool that she went through that kind of harrowing experience and and and eventually went into education and became supervisor and a leader. For sure. That's where my mind went. And I'll do my follow-up. And this is something that strikes me every now and then, as probably all of us, how time, we have weird ideas about time, how how long ago something was, how short a ago something was. And certainly as I get older, I have a better perspective, but I don't think we ever can have a true perspective because of our short time spans on the earth and everything.
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But Ruby Bridges, if she's still alive, is 71. The girl wasn't allowed to go to white school is either still alive, like she's not that old. like like that So when people are like, you know, get over it, not us, but bad people, you It's like people that are alive now face like death threats and actual death over civil rights stuff. So it's not like, ah it's been forever ago. You know, like it it was very recent. Good tidbit.
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I like that it didn't have a surprise. Mike, you want me to go or do you want to go? You go. I'm going to go because I like saving Mike's glass because Mike's, whether they're good or bad, are the most fun. And I'm afraid mine is like... Yes, they are.
00:09:43
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So you guys are aware of, or at least vaguely familiar with the observer effect in quantum
Exploring Observer Effects
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physics, right? Yes, I am. Yeah. And and not none of us totally understand it. I think quantum some physicists struggle to understand it, but it is fascinating and strange and mysterious. it it I don't know what it is. Okay, going to explain it. Particles, ah particularly electrons and photons, they kind of exist in this fuzzy state of multiple possibilities, but when you observe them, when you put mechanics in place to detect and measure them, it forces them to decide or collapse into a specific position.
00:10:17
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Basically, the act of observing them changes their behavior. And and it's not—and it's weird, right? Because particles are not conscious, at least as far as we know they're not conscious. and So how would they know they're being observed? But if there are mechanics in place to observe them, they only do one thing and you can measure it and see it. But if you're not paying attention, they do multiple things. It's kind of, do you follow what I'm saying? I hope you do because that's all I got to try to explain it.
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The reason I bring you this up. We bring Schrodinger's cat, which is like a fake idea of this. Schrodinger's cat and is related to that. The idea is that physics is weird at the quantum level. But what I wanted to call attention to is that human beings do the exact same thing as unconscious particles.
00:10:58
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What I'm getting at is something called the Hawthorne effect. And this is how human beings are like tiny, tiny particles. In the 1920s, there was this research study at the Western Electric Hawthorne Works factory in Chicago.
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And the initial study seemed really, really simple. They're like, hey, we're going to make the factory brighter and we're going to measure productivity and see if it increases productivity. So they changed all the light bulbs and made it much brighter. And then the workers came in and the experimenters were like, hey, we're doing this experiment.
00:11:26
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You're going to notice it's brighter at your workstation. And indeed, productivity increased to a statistically significant margin. So bright lights means more productivity, right? Okay. Maybe not. Maybe not because correlation does not mean causation. You guys are hearing that a lot in the media because people are saying Tylenol causes autism, but correlation does not mean causation. So some one of these scientists said, Wait a minute, we need a control measure. So I have an idea. Let's dim the lights.
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And we're going to put in bulbs that are dimmer than they were before. And let's see what happens to productivity then. So they dimmed all the lights. The workers came in. The experimenters were like, hey, we're doing another experiment. You're going to notice it's dimmer where you work. And everyone expected productivity to go down. But here's what happened. Productivity went up again by this essentially the same margin as when the lights were bright.
00:12:11
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yeah So brightening the lights up productivity, dimming the lights productivity. So what was really going on here? What was really going on here is what is now referred to as the Hawthorne effect. which is simply that people's performance improves when they're being observed, when they're being studied, when they're being looked at.
00:12:27
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And it's not just about, hey, the boss is looking. It's also about kind of a sense that somebody cares. And just the sense that somebody cares makes people a little bit more attuned to what they're doing and and want to do better. When someone pays attention to you, even if it's just to measure your performance as a subject of an experiment, or better, gives you the sense that they care, you're naturally going to put in more effort. People change their behavior because they know they're being watched. It's not just about the pressure.
00:12:53
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It's about knowledge that somebody is attentive. And this has like impacted a lot of different things. Workplace behavior has led to changes in work hours, rest breaks, social conditions in the workplace, largely because people realized when they started paying attention to the workers, the workers felt more like part of a team. They had more social interaction. They were able to get and receive, provide feedback to and from their supervisors. So it wasn't just about the lighting. it was really about the attention that affected the motivation. So So the Hawthorne effect is like a subtle little life hack. And if you could remember it, you can use it in pretty much anything. It's used a lot in the classroom, right? Teachers will notice, for instance, a student suddenly, maybe the principal or a school psychologist comes in to observe a kid and the kid's acting on his best behavior because the kid knows somebody's there to observe him. They can see the body in the room. But it also impacts the teacher. If the teacher is just consciously paying more attention to the kid, sometimes that's all the intervention you need is to just be conscious and to be maybe measuring it, to maybe taking data on a kid. Sometimes just doing that impacts things in a positive way. it It works also in parenting. If a kid knows the parent is attentively noticing what they're doing, they're going to do it better. So it's like ah it's kind of a nice little motivator technique.
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It's a little like psychological trick and how human beings like to be seen. And if they're being seen, they tend to do better. So it's also how human beings are like quantum particles. very Very cool. Follow-up. Follow-up! Mike, what do you got? Well, I i was deferring to you because you seem so eager to have a follow-up.
00:14:22
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I did not know those things, but I do like know them now. Interesting to know that, yes, I suppose you, well, actually, no, I did have a follow-up. Cut all the everything in between. Follow-ups. i had a job, I'd say, 10 to 12 years ago where I worked remotely and All the only way that I would interact with my my boss lived actually in Hawaii.
00:14:46
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So we were very very, very remote, very, very different time zones. I felt very disconnected from like the work we were doing. There was an office in the city, but you know, I just felt very disconnected. More recently, like maybe like two, three years ago, I had like a job one summer.
Remote Work and Productivity
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I was working remotely as well, but we use Slack and Slack is like, I guess, people looking at you.
00:15:07
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what is What is Slack? It's an app. I guess you don't work remotely, but it's an app where like people now that work remote work is so commonplace, it's how people ah will communicate in offices. And it's much more like integrated into your phone and into your desktop with a lot more notifications and like very much like managing to. And I think there's different apps. I'm not advertising for Slack at all because it made me very anxious in general. I mean, is it like, is it like Teams? Yeah, like Teams, that type of thing. Okay. Just reproducing this feeling of like being in an office somehow remotely. I'm not sure what it is because it's just small things. But when I worked remotely before, it just felt like no one knew anything about like what I was doing. And it was like probably not great for my productivity. um The one with the Slack thing or Teams or any of these things. I felt like a particle being looked at. I had to say, I am i'm in this form.
00:15:54
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I have to take a form. So you're saying the Slack app is like the Hawthorne effect making remote workers more productive. That's what I'm trying to get at. Really the big concern people have about remote workers. So maybe that could be a positive thing. did I mean, did you feel like it was like Big Brother watching or did you feel like it was just kind of cool to stay connected? I my feeling on that is I I'm an independent person and I don't need to be looked at but my thought for the Gen Z and Gen Alpha people entering the workplace now that remote work is so common commonplace I think it's good to not be as isolated and so I think things like that like I think it's good for people's work-life balance to not have to commute all the time but also I think it's good technology is better replicating the feeling of being in an office even though you know maybe if you're like me you don't need to have people knowing what you're up to. So yeah, I, my followup is i do need people to know what I'm doing. I'm desperate for attention at all times.
00:16:48
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ah However, as an artist online that tries to push my brand and visibility and stuff, one of the best things you can do is my understanding is have live streams, where you're drawing and people suggest things for you to do, or that yeah you talk while you're drawing and stuff. And I learned a few times and I hate it. It's the worst ever. um and I'm not bad at drawing and talking. I can, that's, you know, I could do that. And I could, I go out to coffee shops. I'm not afraid of just the world, but when a bunch of people are like, we're going to get online and watch you draw, I'm like, I better do a good job. And, and if I draw like a foot that's wrong, which I will do all the time, normally I better redraw that 15 times, maybe pull up a reference. But when people are watching, I'm like, ah, they know I can't draw a foot.
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I can't, if I draw more than three times, you know, like like there's so much pressure. oh Somebody said something. I can't answer that. I have to remember what perspective is. like And so I 100% become a worse artist. I 100% become less charismatic. Just everything about it is you're getting the worst version of me as a person and as an artist. If you are watching me draw on a live stream. Did the experiments in the offices end with the particles? Did the particles and the workers get a bunch of flop sweats?
00:17:49
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Yeah. They're like,
00:17:53
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I don't know how to particle. i think the Hawthorne effect, as I understand it, is that it's most effective when it's not like crushing, causing anxiety, brother's watching and he's judging you and you're going to lose. yeah It's more like the positive side of it. Just that we care. It's the feeling that someone cares. Yeah, that makes sense. Anyway, Mike, what's your tidbit? I have a tidbit. It's going to take me a moment to get to
Gaming Evolution and Habits
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it. I'm going to tell a story that both of you know.
00:18:18
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Both of you control yourself. Should we guess this? Don't try to guess what I'm going to say. all set. This is the benefit of the listeners. A million. work So as we established very clearly on this podcast, Rob, Gaz, and I know each other from a public school in New Jersey. I met Rob in middle school, met Gaz in high school.
00:18:38
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ah We attended the same sort of colleges and so on and so on. So we've known each other a very long time and we've had periods of our lives where we're talking a lot. some periods we were talking less. A period in which we weren't talking that much, I think, was ah leading up to COVID. um We didn't talk that often, um but when COVID happened and we were in various states of lockdown, depending on which state we lived in, um we started getting online, talking to each other, and we started playing some games.
00:19:04
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ah We played games. Magic the Gathering online sometimes. We played, ah we do Risk. and if we did Risk. We did Talisman online. We did once. We did do Talisman. We did Talisman. And then at one point, I was playing a game called Fortnite on my Nintendo Switch. Fortnite is a game, probably most listeners know, it's ah commonly played as a battle royale. 100 people go into the game and it's last man standing. You have to, a storm circle is constantly shrinking and pushing you towards the center. Basically exactly like the movie, The Hunger Games. And I know this is a style of game. Don't make a face, Gaz. It is like the Hunger Games. It's just like the Hunger Games. Anyway, one time we all played as a squad where all three of us got on and we formed a team together.
00:19:45
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We did not know, and I'm not still not 100% sure, that it was possible to team up in groups of three. We thought you had to team up in groups of four. So Rob, Gaz, and I were all on the phone together. We got on Fortnite as a squad of four. We had to pick a fourth, and that fourth was a little child. It was like a like a little, like a little...
00:20:02
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yeah online. And that nine-year-old was the only one who had like audio because the rest of us were just talking on our phones and had no way to communicate with each other. We did not choose a nine-year-old. They were randomly assigned. Yes, I'll allow the interruption, Gaz. Yes, we did not say where's a nine-year-old. our party of three middle-aged men. Yes, you get randomly paired and we got paired with a little kid who's hey guys.
00:20:26
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We're like, let's go over here. And so we're all talking, but he can't hear us, and but we can hear him. We can hear him talking through the game. And in Fortnite, the way the game works, when you're playing more than one, I always play solo, but when you're playing like with duos or squads or something like that, If one of you dies, you can actually regenerate each other.
00:20:44
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So we're in the game. Me, Gaz, and Rob are actually not that good at it. In fact, I think Gaz, you play it now, but at the time you'd almost never played it. And Rob, I don't think you'd played it at all. got stuck under a staircase at one point. I was there stuck the rest of the game. you had no We had no skills. We didn't really know about like the whole regenerating thing. Because that was like the funniest thing to me.
00:21:02
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Is this poor little kid got killed in the game. And he's like crawling around. His little character's crawling around. he's like, guys, guys, help me, help me. And we didn't how to do anything about it because we didn't know the game that well. We're like, we're sorry, little kid, we're sorry. We don't know how to save you. And he's like, help.
00:21:21
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And that's just a funny story to me. ah But that brings me to my tidbit. Which is that Fortnite was originally a different type of game. It was a horror game. ah The idea of it was the fort and the night had to do with during the day, similar to Minecraft, you had to go out and gather resources because at night, like monsters and zombies and werewolves and things would appear and you had to build up a fort together.
00:21:47
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through the night. um So the whatever the game developer is developing the game developing along those lines, which i I don't play many like sort of Red Dead Redemption type games, but I get the impression sort of along the lines of's more of more like a horror quest game. i don't think Redemption is a horror game. It's a cowboy game. What? It's a cowboy game. Okay. Yeah, it's an open world cowboy game. It's a cool game though. It's great. I'm not a follow ups yet. yeah Can't help yourself.
00:22:12
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Um, anyway, point being the game developers are developing whatever a very different type game, more quest based having to do with this like horror thing. They built the mechanic for building forts, but at a certain point during play tests, they just realized that the battle royale aspect of it was just a lot more appealing to people. And then they just sort of leaned into that and that became this phenomenon that probably is not great for the gaming industry because if you're like me you play just fortnight all the time which costs no money whatsoever and never play a different game and so no other money ever goes into anyone who works in the gaming industry so that was the tidbit you may now follow up you might have been thinking of dead by daylight that what you're thinking of that's a horror game i don't play any games except fortnight so i don't know any other games you just mean you could have been madden madden the horror game madden
00:22:58
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ah That is an interesting and I do play it quite a lot now and I did not know that. I know it's evolved over time, but i didn't know it started as sort of ah a survival horror game. That's pretty interesting. I do something similar where it's like I just kind of fix on one game for a while and I played Elden Ring, which is a Dark Souls game. It's kind of notoriously difficult and I got my step sons into it and and it was awesome because then I had them to kind of play with. yeah And so there's a new game that just came out called Elden Ring Night Reign, which is the same thing as Fortnite, just incredibly hard because it's Elden Ring meet meets Fortnite. And, you know, the circle is closing in and it's going to kill you. I hate it.
00:23:33
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I hate it because I'm so bad at it. I'm bad at it. And it's like, it's it is the most anxiety-inducing game of all time. But I play it because it's, you know, I get to play with them yeah and pretend I'm good. And I'm um I similarly to you guys focus on one game. Unlike Mike, Fortnite has got a few dollars out of me. um I would say in the several years I've been playing it now, maybe it's gotten 50 or $100 out of When I bought a Christmas skin, or I think maybe I bought a Star Wars skin, or maybe my wife gave me a gift card for Christmas so that I could buy some of this frivolous stuff. But I think they do make money selling skins to people as
00:24:08
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I know they make money. They just don't make it from me. Sure. yeah But previously, the game I was stuck on was Dead by Daylight, which was a similar free to play unless you buy the skins. um The other big game I played was Overwatch, which I haven't played in a long time. But they have a new game, well, newish, called Marvel Rivals, which is essentially Overwatch with Marvel characters. If you guys ever wanted to play that, I'd be down to try that game. Is that the one that has Squirrel Girl in it? and She has a big butt? Oh, I don't know if she has a big butt, but she's in it. Yeah, it's a squad-based game. So I don't know anything about that game.
00:24:37
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I did see some online chatter about Squirrel Girl and her butt. So that is a tidbit for the audience to go look up themselves. And I think this is a great end of a tidbit where we all plan to play a game we're all going to suck that at. And we're going to get paired with with a nine-year-old who's going to yell at us for being bad and then be disappointed when we can't come rescue him.
00:24:57
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um You're going to have to some playback and fix it in editing because you were not supposed to say uh in your thing. That was my big reward last week. You made a big deal about that. Oh, shoot. you yeah yeah You shouldn't have said, uh, I'm pretty sure you did. You could double check, but it's likely high to certain that I didn't. I was purposefully not saying it the whole time. And if you didn't catch it, I was actually paying attention to Rob's talk the whole time to make sure. Oh, we're right well, now i' good this is ah ah then a challenge for the listener.
00:25:25
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Go back and re-listen to this episode. And if you hear me say, uh, except for this time where I just said it, that doesn't count. But any other time, then Chidbits is going to send you $500. five hundred dollars Why would you say that? Now we have to. Now we're legally obligated.
00:25:39
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Because mike Mike's going to send him $500. All right, so is it time to vote? Well, wait, just in editing, you may be tempted to cut out all that stuff I just said, but you set it up in the last episode so you can't. Yeah, no, i know I'm not going to. I know I didn't say that U-M word.
00:25:52
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I vote for Mike. Yeah, I think I vote for Mike. I think I vote for Mike. Yay! I just like the camaraderie of his story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. it's nice for me to win once in a while rather than being the most hated tidbitter in tidbit towers well you it was a classic it was a classic tidbit where it was an interesting nugget that i didn't know and you had a nice little story leading into it yeah it was it was very well crafted that's good we should keep this podcast going where you got to quit like oh bring in james james is so perfect So what does Mike win? I know, you that wheel that you spun last time and then we didn't... I know, I don't have the wheel with me. We are so good at having quality reoccurring pieces. You get to choose who goes for a second and third next. Okay, Gaz will go first, I will go second, Gaz has to do a second tidbit, third, and then Rob will close it out fourth. Okay, and we will forget about this until the end of the episode. Wait a minute, you're saying that Gaz has to do two tidbits? That's what he said, yeah. Anything said on the show is legally binding, so I have to.
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bit and All right. Thank you, everybody. you Yeah, thanks, and he bits of gather the other one and it seems giant tile scenes pouring in from your router dreams wrinkle mingle stuff in your own scary