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Ep. 81: Geotuning the Land: How Addressing Geopathic Stress Can Support Soil Health and Regenerative Farms
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What if caring for land goes beyond soil tests, nutrients, and visible inputs?
In this episode of The Backyard Bouquet Podcast, Jennifer is joined by Brittney Herrera, founder and creative director of Thunder Egg, to explore the concept of geotuning—a practice often described as acupuncture for the land.
Through her work, Brittney helps harmonize land and spaces by identifying and correcting geopathic stress, subtle disruptions in the Earth’s natural field that can impact people, plants, animals, and the overall vitality of a place. Brittney recently worked with Jennifer to tune her new farm property, and after experiencing the process firsthand, Jennifer felt this was a conversation worth sharing with the flower-growing and land-stewarding community.
Together, they keep the conversation grounded and practical, discussing how geopathic stress can show up on farms and gardens, how geotuning works in real spaces, and how this approach can complement regenerative agriculture and soil-first practices. They also explore the role of water, copper, frequency, and ancient land wisdom—and how listening more deeply to the land can support long-term resilience and harmony.
This episode is an invitation to curiosity. Whether you’re a flower farmer, gardener, or someone who feels deeply connected to the land you care for, this conversation offers a new lens for understanding what it means to truly listen to a place.
Connect with Brittney Herrera & Thunder Egg
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Brittney Herrera: https://www.brittneyherrera.com
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction to the Unique Episode
00:01:57
Jennifer Gulizia
Hey, flower friends, and welcome back to the Backyard Bouquet podcast. Today's episode is going to be a little different than most, but I promise you it's very intentional.
00:02:08
Jennifer Gulizia
As many of you know, we're in the early stages of stewarding our new property, we're learning our land, starting to restore the soil, and we're paying close attention to how this farm feels as much as how it functions. And as we've been doing this work, I've become more aware that land isn't just something we manage, it's something that we're in a relationship with.
Meet Brittany Herrera and Thunder Egg
00:02:30
Jennifer Gulizia
And so that's why I've invited today's guest to join me. Brittney Herrera is the founder and creative director of Thunder Egg. an architecture and interior studio rooted in creating spaces that feel as good as they function.
00:02:44
Jennifer Gulizia
Through her work at Thunder Egg, Brittney also offers GeoTuning, a service that helps harmonize land and spaces by identifying and correcting what's known as geopathic stress. You can think of it as acupuncture for the land, subtle, intentional adjustments that help restore balance, clarity, and vitality.
00:03:06
Jennifer Gulizia
Brittney recently worked with us to tune our new farm, and after experiencing that process firsthand, I felt that it was a conversation worth sharing with all of you.
Understanding Geotuning and Its Role in Regenerative Practices
00:03:15
Jennifer Gulizia
So in today's episode, we're keeping this grounded. We're talking about how imbalance can show up on our land, how tuning works in real spaces like farms and homes, and how this approach can complement regenerative practices and thoughtful land stewardship.
00:03:31
Jennifer Gulizia
So whether you're a flower farmer, gardener, or someone who feels deeply connected to the land you care for, this episode invites you to consider another layer of what it means to truly listen to a place.
00:03:45
Jennifer Gulizia
So without further ado, Brittney welcome to today's podcast episode.
00:03:50
Brittney Herrera
Thank you so much. It's great to be here.
00:03:52
Jennifer Gulizia
Yes, it's great to chat with you again. I've ah been so fortunate to get to know you this year, working on our land, and I'm excited for today's conversation and to bring our listeners in on a little bit of what's been going on at our farm. I get so many questions and Since I'm not the expert, it's really special to bring someone like you on to talk about this subject that we have been really diving into this year. So Brittney I would love to start at the beginning for our listeners. And most people who are tuning in today are probably completely new to this line of work.
00:04:27
Jennifer Gulizia
How would you describe what geo-tuning is and what you do in the most grounded, practical way possible?
00:04:34
Brittney Herrera
Sure. Geotuning is the practice of harmonizing the land by identifying and correcting energetic stress. It's ah energetic stress in the Earth's natural field. So when we find it, we can utilize frequency to correct it.
00:04:55
Jennifer Gulizia
Okay, how did you first find your way into this line of work?
00:04:59
Brittney Herrera
Yes, as you mentioned, I have a background in architecture and interior design, and a client asked us for feng shui. That opened me up into this work, and I discovered that I had an aptitude for it, and I really loved it.
00:05:14
Brittney Herrera
Every project was different, and the results that my clients were seeing from an energetic perspective were just kind of mind-blowing. So I love sharing this work with people.
00:05:28
Jennifer Gulizia
Is geo tuning something that you made up or is this a practice that has been around for a while?
Historical Context of Geotuning
00:05:36
Brittney Herrera
since time began, as far as I can tell. So I've learned it from energy masters that, you know, do this work all over the world. And um they have talked to me about it being present in ancient Egypt and carried on from the Druids. And it was just a way of harmonizing the land and really checking to see if it was a good building site, right? We build everywhere now, so that's kind of gone by the wayside for a lot of us, but this work is really important to really bring us back to a place of harmony with the land.
00:06:15
Jennifer Gulizia
So was it one culture or one religion that practiced this? Or is this something that kind of is a universal appeal throughout history?
00:06:24
Brittney Herrera
That's a great question. um i am reading more and more about the history of it now. From what I understand, you know every ancient civilization had their own version.
00:06:36
Brittney Herrera
They might have called it something different, but it goes back all the way to when we have records.
00:06:44
Jennifer Gulizia
Okay. Can you give us some examples of like how it was used back in the old days or back in ancient times?
00:06:50
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:06:51
Jennifer Gulizia
Like what are some of the ways that people used to use it? You said for building lands, like, are there any thing that we can relate to that is was used for building with this?
00:06:55
Brittney Herrera
Sure.
00:06:59
Brittney Herrera
Absolutely. So people would use this practice to locate their homes. And I think, you know, maybe the most obvious is that they would locate any kind of ritual space on areas of positive energy.
00:07:14
Brittney Herrera
So when you go to civilizations that have been around for a while and you see a fountain, you know, that marks where that area had a positive vortex, a positive geospiral. and that created positive energy that emanated out to the community. People would also just look for areas where there weren't geopathic stress for them to build on, but really it was you know those structures that have stood the test of time where you had all of that positive energy and then you could leverage that into even more positivity by bringing the community together in those buildings that then had
00:07:53
Brittney Herrera
further modifications like sacred geometry and the pyramids, things like that, where you really have a leveraging of both naturally occurring energy and man-made interventions to amplify it.
00:08:11
Jennifer Gulizia
Okay. It's so fascinating to me. And I'm sure a lot of people who are listening right now are first having the question, what is geopathic stress?
00:08:22
Brittney Herrera
Yeah, great question.
Impact of Geopathic Stress
00:08:23
Brittney Herrera
So geopathic stress occurs in the land when the Earth's magnetic grid is disturbed. So we have Hartman lines that cover the Earth north to south, and we have Curry lines that cover it at about a 45 degree angle. And that creates this grid of energy around our whole planet.
00:08:45
Brittney Herrera
And things can different things can impact that grid. The type of work that I do supports when there are fault lines or underground waterway or underground mineral deposits that would pull on the body, interrupting those lines of the Earth's grid in a way that negatively impacts humans. Those are the ones that I'm focused on.
00:09:12
Brittney Herrera
So when we when we use our dowsing rods to go and find those lines, that's what I'm using them for.
00:09:13
Jennifer Gulizia
Okay.
00:09:23
Jennifer Gulizia
Okay, so you are searching out these energy lines. Are these energy lines scientific? Or where do you find these energy lines? Are there maps that show these energy lines?
00:09:36
Brittney Herrera
They're frequency and they can be measured with different tools. I use dowsing rods to find them. i know other people have meters that they can go around a property with and find them that way. But that the dowsing rods are what works for me. People have been using them for a long time to find water or different things, lost objects. Oddly enough, they do not work for me to find lost objects, but they work great for me finding geopathic stress.
00:10:08
Jennifer Gulizia
Awesome. Can you help us understand how does geopathic stress show up in real and tangible ways? So as most of us are gardeners and farmers listening to this podcast. So how might geopathic stress show up on a flower farm?
00:10:24
Brittney Herrera
Sure. So if you've ever stood on the edge of the Grand Canyon and felt that pull, that energetic pull, that's geopathic stress. And if you can imagine that underground and on your land, right, obviously not to that scale, but that's the idea that it's pulling on the body or on the plants. And you might notice it like when you have a hedge,
00:10:51
Brittney Herrera
and there's one tree in that hedge that dies, right? Again and again, maybe replanted it however many times. That's how this first showed up for me. I had a hedge and when I cured that I replanted a million times. And then um when I cured the geopathic stress, it just started thriving and that was no longer a problem. So it can show up like that. It also shows up in what types of animals are drawn to a property. Wasps really love geopathic stress. So do cats, funny enough. And I think that some species are drawn to it because they're helping to cure it. You know like wasps have a hum, cats have their purr and that's frequency at work as well. And I think that that's just that part of their role in helping the land.
00:11:46
Jennifer Gulizia
So someone like me who had an insane amount of wasps on my property this year, is it bad to be trying to get rid of the wasps?
00:11:51
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:11:54
Brittney Herrera
I wouldn't say that it's bad. I think it's helping them out, right? Like, um their if their job is to help with geopathic stress, then you're just helping helping them to to do their work.
00:12:07
Brittney Herrera
um I don't think that the earth wants geopathic stress. I think that, you know, it's good to mitigate it and to do wonderful things with the land, with the property to help people heal that are living on that property, raising the vibration of the land and the people inside.
00:12:28
Jennifer Gulizia
So you mentioned certain animals are drawn to the geopathic, or am I saying that right? Geopathic stress, like wasps and cats.
00:12:36
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:12:38
Jennifer Gulizia
How does it affect humans that are living on that land?
00:12:42
Brittney Herrera
From what we've seen, you know, humans react really negatively to geopathic stress. And all of this is anecdotal, right? It's just my own experience and the experience of my teachers. But, um you know, people sitting on two lines of stress that cross, you know, can really feel it the most and or different types of stress might manifest very deeply.
00:13:07
Brittney Herrera
um And for them, you really see headaches, loss of sleep, anxiety, you know If yet they're dealing with a condition, it just makes it worse. because Not that it causes it, but the body can't heal. you're never It's never given a break when it's on geopathic stress. but Maybe they go away on vacation and they come back where they slept great and they come back and they're like, I can't sleep again. you know um It can show up in so many different ways. Energy work is so unique to to everyone's individual circumstance, but those are some of the things that I see pretty frequently.
00:13:46
Jennifer Gulizia
Interesting. So how do you get rid of geopathic stress on land?
Techniques for Harmonizing Land
00:13:52
Brittney Herrera
Sure. So I use copper needles. So they're about 18 inches long and they hold a charge of frequency and they interrupt the charge. They interrupt the line of stress in the land.
00:14:07
Brittney Herrera
So we plant them. that They don't have to be deep, but they're super effective and they interrupt the line of stress, not forever, but for long enough. And it kind of creates this um area of peace.
00:14:22
Brittney Herrera
from that line on.
00:14:25
Jennifer Gulizia
So when you, this is what you call tuning a space. Is that correct?
00:14:30
Brittney Herrera
Yep, just like acupuncture for the body, I think of this as acupuncture for the land, where it's very subtle, but that charge interrupts that geopathic stress long enough that it can you know restore harmony.
00:14:48
Jennifer Gulizia
And we have a good example of that from my farm. We found, and for those of you who follow and listenit or watch my Instagram stories, this summer we found a bald-faced hornet nest that was about two or three feet long. I mean, it was massive. The guy that came out to take care of it because it's right next to where our greenhouse is and we have a trailer park there. And I mean, there were so many bald-faced hornets everywhere early in the summer. And i he quoted us one quote saying, this is what it's going to take. And he showed up in all of this protective gear.
00:15:23
Jennifer Gulizia
And we had found the nest. We'd seen the hornets, but we hadn't found the nest until after you had tuned our property. but when he So you had tuned our property. And then he came, it was probably about a month later, to remove the nest and And what's interesting is the nest was on one of the lines where you placed the copper rod.
00:15:46
Jennifer Gulizia
He was gone in about 30 minutes. And the gentleman, he pulls up his truck as I'm harvesting our dahlias in the field. And he's like, that was the weirdest thing.
00:15:54
Brittney Herrera
Yay.
00:15:54
Jennifer Gulizia
And I go, what, what do you mean? I go, did you get stung? Are you okay? And he's like, there was two or three bald-faced hornets that came out of that thing. He was like, I was expecting to see the most I've ever seen before.
00:16:07
Jennifer Gulizia
And he's like, something must have happened to scare these hornets away from their nest because there were none in it. He was like, three flew out and that was the weirdest thing. So, I mean, it makes me think that that that that must have been because you mentioned to us when you first started that Things like hornets and wasps are attracted to negative energy. And once that energy line was no longer a negative point, they probably went on and found a new home. Is that correct?
00:16:37
Brittney Herrera
Yeah, I think amazing things like that happen all the time. But that's a great example of how the animals just weren't needed anymore. um i had another example where um a woman, what when she would sleep, her cats would sleep all the way around her.
00:16:56
Brittney Herrera
and you know, they they were protecting her from a lot of geopathic stress. and as soon as week tuned the property, the cats didn't sleep there anymore.
00:17:08
Brittney Herrera
you know, like they weren't needed.
00:17:08
Jennifer Gulizia
Oh, wow.
00:17:09
Brittney Herrera
Yeah. So animals know.
00:17:13
Jennifer Gulizia
I always feel like animals have a greater sense. I feel like they're more in tune with nature and they just can sense things that we can't.
00:17:18
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:17:21
Jennifer Gulizia
Like sometimes I'll watch my dogs be so alert and I have no idea what they are all so intent on. I'm like, what is it that they're paying so much attention to that I can't see?
00:17:31
Jennifer Gulizia
it Sometimes it makes me nervous. i'm like, what is it? Is there a coyote or what's going on? um But it's amazing what they're able to pick up on that we can't.
00:17:37
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:17:41
Brittney Herrera
Definitely.
00:17:43
Jennifer Gulizia
So I'm curious from your experience, how does geopathic stress affect the land differently than it does people? For example, does it impact like soil?
00:17:56
Jennifer Gulizia
i mean, you mentioned it impacts, like you talked about your tree and how you had a dead tree and that area started growing again once the energy lines were healed.
00:18:01
Brittney Herrera
and
00:18:06
Jennifer Gulizia
Do you see it affecting people differently than the land?
00:18:06
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:18:12
Brittney Herrera
I mean, it manifests differently depending on what is being impacted, sure. So for the land itself, it's bringing back the trees that were dying in the line. The hornets go away, right? um These types of things, super common.
00:18:30
Brittney Herrera
um I would love to know if there is a molecular structure changing to the soil. i don't. Um, but I can't imagine that it's bad, right? Like, I think ah it just kind of elevates the energy.
00:18:46
Brittney Herrera
When i use copper, on my body, you know, um, experience things like more oxygenated blood, right? So how is that working with the land? I don't think that we really know. All I have are these case studies, right? That we're pulling together and everybody's, there are different, um,
00:19:07
Brittney Herrera
but all of them are magical. So, um you know, when we use copper on a positive energy area to amplify it even more, I think that we see what we see really shows up for the plants with it. I put inside of that copper energy area, they grow like bananas. And I think frequency gardening is a fascinating topic that is,
00:19:37
Brittney Herrera
just, you know, coming back into the mainstream, but amazing. And it's similar, right? We're using copper, we are using frequency to elevate that vibration and things tend to thrive within that those circumstances, whether that's the land or the people.
00:19:53
Jennifer Gulizia
Is copper something that you particularly use or is it something that all geotuners are using to heal the negative stress lines on the land?
00:20:05
Brittney Herrera
So copper holds frequency better than other materials, which is why i use it. um I don't know that everybody has to use it, but that was how I was taught, and so that's what I use.
00:20:17
Jennifer Gulizia
Okay.
00:20:19
Brittney Herrera
Mm-hmm.
00:20:19
Jennifer Gulizia
ah It's interesting, as we've kind of gone down this rabbit hole of regenerative agriculture with our new farm, we're very committed to not using any chemicals, farming in harmony with the land.
00:20:30
Brittney Herrera
Mm-hmm.
00:20:32
Jennifer Gulizia
Our site was once a Native American, probably piece of land. So there's a lot of history and it's really made us pause and say, how can we farm in harmony like these ancestors once did with this land.
Copper's Role in Regeneration and Practical Benefits
00:20:47
Jennifer Gulizia
And so it's fascinating to me how We had a mutual friend put us in touch um for you to be able to come out and do this work with our farm. But literally months prior, i was speaking with a company that focuses on water, structured water for regenerative agriculture. And they also use copper and talk about the benefits of copper with water. And it was something that, I mean, I've had a copper mug to drink like a Moscow mule. But other than that, it's like,
00:21:16
Jennifer Gulizia
Something that has never occurred to me and all of a sudden I'm hearing all of these benefits about having copper and mixing it with regenerative agriculture.
00:21:23
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:21:24
Jennifer Gulizia
So I'm very curious.
00:21:25
Brittney Herrera
I keep a copper, i keep a copper tensor ring around our filtered water station. um and the taste, I mean,
00:21:36
Brittney Herrera
is night and day from the regular filtered water to the structured water. um
00:21:41
Jennifer Gulizia
Seriously.
00:21:43
Brittney Herrera
It's amazing. Yeah, absolutely. um I mean, my husband was like, absolutely not. This is ridiculous. But then when he tasted it, he's like, oh, okay, then we all want the good water now.
00:21:57
Jennifer Gulizia
So do you pour the water through a copper filter or you just have a ring around the outside? I'm confused.
00:22:03
Brittney Herrera
I keep a ring on the outside. Yeah. So tensor rings, which are a really similar concept to these earth needles, right, they hold frequency. um They structure the water by creating this energy cycle through them.
00:22:22
Brittney Herrera
And so anything passing through but receives the benefit of that energy.
00:22:28
Jennifer Gulizia
Interesting. So our listeners don't know this, but after you came out, we were talking about my trigger finger hand and you suggested getting a copper ring for my arm. Is that the same kind of ring?
00:22:40
Brittney Herrera
Same ring. Yep.
00:22:41
Jennifer Gulizia
Same ring. Okay. I'm going to have to try that.
00:22:42
Brittney Herrera
can
00:22:43
Jennifer Gulizia
So I have a trigger finger that I've been battling for, oh gosh, since 2019, I injured my hand and it's gotten worse. It's probably to the point that I need surgery, but it's amazing how between red light therapy and using the copper band on my arm this year, the nodule on my finger has gotten so much smaller this winter.
00:23:04
Jennifer Gulizia
I mean, the other day my daughter felt it and she said, your bump is so small. it's it It doesn't protrude anymore. so um
00:23:12
Brittney Herrera
yay
00:23:13
Jennifer Gulizia
I'm going to have to try that with the water too. Sorry for that detour. that It's just, there's so much to learn going back to what used to work. I think we're all so um quick these days to jump to AI or to search engines to search for something. But there's so much knowledge from that ancestral wisdom that I think this conversation is really fascinating. And hopefully our listeners are um having some aha moments or getting curious also.
00:23:41
Jennifer Gulizia
So I'm curious, when you work with farms or large properties, Have you found any common patterns that you're noticing with the land, with the way energy responds or where negative energy sits?
00:23:55
Brittney Herrera
Really every property is so different. Um, it doesn't really matter depending on the size. but you know, it all holds this different energy depending on where we are in the world and connecting with it and walking it and letting the rods tell us, you know, where the stress is. It's the same process, you know, for a small apartment or your 20 you know What we find can be fascinating over a larger land because we have more area to work with.
00:24:31
Brittney Herrera
um We find things like cracked foundations where there are stress lines. um And we find, you know, on one property, we did a large hotel and there were two lines of stress going through the elevator and it used to break all the time. And so the repair bills, you can imagine elevators are not cheap. And after we tuned, it has broken, I think, two times um in the last year.
00:25:02
Brittney Herrera
So, you know, it's ah it's pretty remarkable what this work can do for electronics or any kind of mechanical equipment.
00:25:03
Jennifer Gulizia
wow
00:25:13
Brittney Herrera
And this is super common in and other parts of the world. Like if they have mechanics breaking down, then they call in their local geotuner to come and check on the stress lines and make sure that everything from that perspective is in check.
00:25:30
Brittney Herrera
But um here, I feel like we're on the cusp of inviting that kind of conversation in.
00:25:36
Jennifer Gulizia
I really think so. I think there's a huge regenerative movement taking place. And I think a lot of that stems from listening to more of that ancient wisdom and going back to the earth and trying to find out what is this teaching me or telling me versus trying to jump to some quick cure that we have created.
00:25:59
Brittney Herrera
yeah.
00:26:00
Jennifer Gulizia
Oh, I'm curious for our gardeners and farmers that are listening today, what are some signs that they might look for that their land or their gardens are out of alignment?
00:26:11
Jennifer Gulizia
I mean, we're we're as gardeners and farmers, we always turn to soil testing. So we're looking for minerals and nutrients that are lacking. This was never something that crossed my mind until our friend Alex said, hey, Jen, you need to meet Brittney I think she could really help you with this new land.
00:26:27
Jennifer Gulizia
So what are some things that we might be looking for?
00:26:30
Brittney Herrera
Sure. um If the land isn't responding to all of the conventional things that you might be doing, you know, to help it, then this could be something deeper that's going on, right? Something that you might, that doesn't show up on a regular test. um So if you have things that are breaking down a lot or plumbing issues or, you know, because pipes tend to be very effective, just like foundations.
00:26:58
Brittney Herrera
That can be a really big telltale sign. Not that these things don't happen when no geopathic stress are present, but they can be signs for sure. We see it a lot. um Or different things popping up with the animals, you know, like your wasp situation, hornets, things like that. If you think, my goodness, there's just so many, you know, chances are that geopathic stress is at play.
00:27:27
Jennifer Gulizia
Okay. Are there any other things like disease in a garden? like are those things related to stress also? Or is it more looking for like that area where your trees aren't thriving?
00:27:42
Brittney Herrera
Yeah, that's a great question. I think it's super possible. I mean, I look at how health is so affected by geopathic stress in buildings and for people, because people can say so, right? Like, I get those reports, they're talking to me about it. um The plants aren't talking to me yet. So um I don't know if disease is something that this work cures, but I do know that it raises the vibration and when that happens naturally, immunity for all living things increases.
00:28:19
Jennifer Gulizia
Interesting. What about water? How does water factor in geo tuning?
00:28:26
Brittney Herrera
Sure. Well, I mean, dowsing rods have been used forever for finding water. So from that perspective, I think it's a really natural fit to utilize dowsing.
00:28:38
Brittney Herrera
for finding water and leveraging what you've got on your property, locating wells, et cetera. But also water is a powerful powerful amplifier of energy. So finding those areas of positive energy and then putting in a fountain or you know some other way to harness that energy is a ah great way to amplify what you've got.
00:29:05
Jennifer Gulizia
What about like if someone has, for example, we've had so much rain in the Pacific Northwest lately and part of my farm is literally underwater right now.
00:29:17
Jennifer Gulizia
Is that a sign of geopathic stress or...
00:29:22
Brittney Herrera
I mean, think you get into it being geopathic stress when there is a pipe breaking, right? um Or when maybe something wasn't properly sited.
00:29:34
Brittney Herrera
Otherwise, i think it's okay to have those other interventions that with drainage, you know, and just being a good steward of the property in that way and how you plan at your waterway and management.
00:29:50
Jennifer Gulizia
Okay. I know we're working with our agronomist right now because we have such terrible soil compaction. And so the compaction, I'm sure, is greatly contributing right now to our standing water because it just can't drain.
00:30:03
Jennifer Gulizia
I mean, we have a hard pan at three inches on certain areas of our land.
00:30:04
Brittney Herrera
Right.
00:30:07
Jennifer Gulizia
Other areas, it's six inches where, I mean...
00:30:08
Brittney Herrera
Gosh.
00:30:11
Jennifer Gulizia
It's crazy if you go up to the fence line where we have a regenerative pig farm next to us. You can put um the pentrometer like 24 inches down before it hits the hard pan.
00:30:25
Jennifer Gulizia
And then you move six feet in from the fence line and you can't go six inches into the soil because it's so compacted. So um that's probably why we have the standing water right now.
00:30:32
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:30:38
Jennifer Gulizia
How do you see geotuning complementing regenerative practices?
00:30:45
Brittney Herrera
Yeah. I see it as a wonderful compliment because you're already bringing that intentionality to a property. And this is just the energetic foundation for all of that work.
00:31:00
Brittney Herrera
it's I see it as the first step to really doing any work with the land because you then have this wonderful foundation to know exactly what your land is telling you, where are the areas of stress, where are the areas of positive energy that you could really leverage for your whole planning, um and if there's anything that needs fixing, There can be areas of negative energy that you either want to avoid or you want to cure, right? ah So with that foundation, then you're really set up for success.
00:31:36
Jennifer Gulizia
And when you talk about curing, that's where you put the copper rods to help rebalance the energy of the land.
00:31:40
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:31:42
Brittney Herrera
Exactly.
00:31:44
Jennifer Gulizia
And so how long do we leave those copper rods? So if you come in and you put a copper rod down, which I know you put quite a few on the perimeter of our property, and which we'll talk about in just a minute, but how long do those stay in the ground?
00:31:51
Brittney Herrera
i did.
00:31:58
Brittney Herrera
I, it's a set it and forget it So i leave it. and in general, it does, they don't need to be taken out. So I try to bury them. um Geopathic stress can change though, if we get an earthquake, usually greater than a 2.3 magnitude, then it's a good time to just check and see if any of the changes in the soil under the ground have ah impacted where those stress lines go. And then you can shift the existing rods one way or another. um
00:32:31
Brittney Herrera
But that's otherwise they're there. No need to move them.
00:32:35
Jennifer Gulizia
So you leave them.
00:32:36
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:32:36
Jennifer Gulizia
Leave and forget. I like that.
00:32:38
Brittney Herrera
Yeah. Set it and forget it.
00:32:41
Jennifer Gulizia
Okay, let's segue into talking about my farm to give people a little bit of a visual of what we did. um Let's start by when you first came out to our property, what stood out to you?
00:32:55
Jennifer Gulizia
And I'm totally fine with people knowing that, i mean, I've talked about it openly. we We had a fallow piece of land that had not been tended to for years. So what stood out to you about our land when you came out?
00:33:08
Brittney Herrera
Sure. um i mean, it's a beautiful piece of land. And yeah, of course, you've done such amazing work with it.
00:33:13
Jennifer Gulizia
Thank you.
00:33:17
Brittney Herrera
um So the general energetic tone sometimes can feel heavy to me now that I'm sensitive. I wouldn't say that was a hallmark of my early tunings. But when I came onto your property, it did feel a little bit heavier, a little bit denser.
00:33:36
Brittney Herrera
And there was a fair amount of geopathic stress that we that we had to work with. So that was kind of that initial feeling. And then the deeper that we got into it, we walked in two directions, maybe three directions throughout the property. um It felt lighter and lighter and lighter with every cure that we placed.
00:34:00
Brittney Herrera
And that was just a really kind of beautiful unfolding unfolding as we were there and doing that work.
00:34:09
Jennifer Gulizia
It was super fascinating to walk alongside you because at first I was watching your you with your dousing rods. I'm like, oh, she's moving them. But then when you were like, here, you can hold them and actually see and feel the energy moving.
00:34:23
Jennifer Gulizia
It was such a wild experience for me because I've always been such a black and white person that to see what's not scientifically proven, but has been studied for centuries with different cultures and different nationalities and different countries throughout the world. It's like, wow, look at this. Look at how this energy really is.
00:34:46
Jennifer Gulizia
And I like what you said about it, the feeling. There was kind of this anxiety every time we would go to the lower area of the property, which is kind of where there was a dilapidated mobile home that was falling down on the property.
00:35:01
Brittney Herrera
Mm-hmm.
00:35:02
Jennifer Gulizia
And i always just felt anxious and my daughter wouldn't hang out on that part of the property. And once you put the copper rods in those energy lines, and I mean, my daughter wasn't even aware that that was done.
00:35:17
Jennifer Gulizia
And now she'll camp down there on the property. She still doesn't love to hang out at the farm, but she no longer complains about going down there. She actually wrote me a note the other day about like going camping and things like that since we're not living on the farm yet. And so was interesting how that energy, even what we felt, changed in that area.
Observations Post-Geotuning
00:35:36
Jennifer Gulizia
And then one thing that I've noticed lately, and I mean, we've started obviously regenerating the soil and cover cropping on the farm, but we've only started a small section of it, but literally everywhere you walk on the farm,
00:35:52
Jennifer Gulizia
is covered in mushrooms this year.
00:35:54
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:35:54
Jennifer Gulizia
And last year at this time, and we did see a few mushrooms and we're like, okay, that's a good sign. There's some mushrooms. But I mean, literally the entire property is covered in mushrooms this year and in areas we haven't even begun to touch yet.
00:36:10
Jennifer Gulizia
So I can only think that the energy, the only thing that has been to those done to those areas is the energy tuning.
00:36:18
Brittney Herrera
Yeah, that is so cool. I love that.
00:36:21
Jennifer Gulizia
So yeah, it's it's been a fun experience and something so different. um But when you look back at history and you see that this has been done for thousands of years, it's it's very fascinating.
00:36:34
Jennifer Gulizia
um
00:36:36
Jennifer Gulizia
What are some of the things that people often see um with a property like a farm or a garden after it's been tuned?
00:36:45
Brittney Herrera
Yeah. um So I had one client who her son had, they had a garden and they had a swing inside of the garden. um And he had broken his leg like right there at the swing. And there was a negative vortex there.
00:37:08
Brittney Herrera
So you know, that can be an area of really awful energy. um I had a negative vortex in my yard, and I ah also had an injury on that spot. And it's just, if you've ever been to the mystery spot, you know, like where ah there is a famous negative vortex, people go and they're like, oh my gosh, like you can see it up looks down, down looks up. It's very interesting. And it's the same thing, but to a much less degree.
00:37:42
Brittney Herrera
Negative vortexes, areas of negative negative energy can be in these gardens, in the on these on this land, and they're areas of just chaos. So when we tune those, we find that people report greater harmony, no injuries. You know, I think those are probably some of the most important areas that we tune. And then when we do overall properties, people start to see all kinds of things, you know, from things just starting to grow and thrive to them being led and connected to the right people to fix specific problems, you know, like because the problems are still going to pop up if something's wrong with a piece of land. But um
00:38:28
Brittney Herrera
In my experience, amazing things start to happen to remove those obstacles.
00:38:36
Jennifer Gulizia
Fascinating. Thank you.
00:38:38
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:38:39
Jennifer Gulizia
Is there a moment that you know after tuning that the space has, I don't know if that's the right word to say, settled or returned to balance? How do you know that that has happened?
00:38:52
Brittney Herrera
Yeah. um The rods stop responding. So when they're done, they're done. And um and that's how I know they're done. um Sometimes I can also feel it now in my body.
00:39:01
Jennifer Gulizia
Okay.
00:39:06
Brittney Herrera
Like, oh, okay. Like I'll get a tingle, like we're done now. um But really once they stop swinging that their stress, that that's when we're done.
00:39:18
Jennifer Gulizia
So the copper rods signal when that energy has shifted.
00:39:23
Brittney Herrera
Yep.
00:39:24
Jennifer Gulizia
That's so fascinating.
00:39:27
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:39:27
Jennifer Gulizia
Okay. Many of our listeners, I'm sure are pretty practical science-minded growers. What do you say to someone who's curious, but also skeptical of geotuning?
00:39:35
Brittney Herrera
Yeah.
00:39:41
Brittney Herrera
Yeah, me too. I mean, I have been super skeptical about anything that I couldn't see or, you know, really put science to.
00:39:53
Brittney Herrera
um And i couldn't deny that this work was working. you know i saw it done and I've seen it work for me and I've seen it work then for my friends and family. And then I'm like, okay, that's proof of concept then out to clients um on the architecture and interior side for sure. But it has spiraled into this whole other business where people really wanna bring their land and their homes back into balance. um And they know something's off, but can't put their finger on it. there will A lot of times they just are getting no sleep. and They're like, I'll try anything. um Our skeptical clients. And then it works. you know It works again and again and again and again. And at some point, you have to have faith that the math will catch up. you know like we prove things all the time that you know we couldn't prove yesterday.
00:40:51
Brittney Herrera
And i i choose to believe that this will show up in the same way.
00:40:57
Jennifer Gulizia
I love that. That's a great response. Do you see your work as a replacement for science or a way to complement it
00:41:06
Brittney Herrera
I think it's complimentary. i i think that, you know, We are making new discoveries all the time and this just shows us kind of and on a quantum physics level, I hope, um how energy can work, even if we can't do the math on it yet, but it can complement and show us where to look next.
00:41:30
Jennifer Gulizia
I think there's so much. I keep using the words ancient wisdom, but earlier this year 2025, read Braiding Sweetgrass and it is ah written by I'm blanking on her last name, but her first name is Robin. I'll include a link in today's show notes.
00:41:49
Jennifer Gulizia
um But she's a scientist and also a Native American. And the book, it's called Braiding Sweetgrass because she's weaving her Native American wisdom with science.
00:42:00
Jennifer Gulizia
And I listened to the audio book this year in and the field as I was just starting planting.
00:42:02
Brittney Herrera
I love that.
00:42:05
Jennifer Gulizia
And it was such a beautiful book. I want to go back and listen to it again. But it was so fascinating to me how much knowledge and wisdom. people used to get from just taking time to listen to the land, that it makes me wonder sometimes, like, are we so busy and so focused on our tasks at hand and what's going on on that screen in our hand that we're not listening anymore to the cues and signs that the land is trying to tell us or our flowers or our gardens are trying to speak to us. um
00:42:39
Jennifer Gulizia
So I love the work that you're doing. And I think that the more we take time to listen, the more we understand what our lands are trying to tell us.
00:42:49
Brittney Herrera
Yeah. And I think it's co-creation, you know, have it. It's okay to come to ah a property and like have a plan, you know, and take that beat to listen and identify what the land wants. What it's telling you is set up in place already and respond, you know, with your own creativity about what you want to make there.
00:43:13
Brittney Herrera
and ask for ask for guidance, ask for a partner in the land with what you want to create.
00:43:21
Jennifer Gulizia
I love that. If someone is listening today and they feel curious, but they're not ready for full tuning of their land, what is one simple way that they can start listening to their space?
Meditative Practices with Land
00:43:34
Brittney Herrera
Yeah. I think, you know, just meditating with your land in mind and in a way, giving the land the mic for a minute, just being open to receiving from intuition and internal guidance. I know that can feel wu but it's been my experience that when you really get quiet, insights come, you know, things have, people get moments of insight in the shower, right? So those times when you're really not thinking and you allow kind of
00:44:12
Brittney Herrera
whatever else in to really inspire that you get those moments of aha. And I think doing that with the intention of connecting with your land can be a really powerful way to start the conversation.
00:44:28
Jennifer Gulizia
That's great advice. I know I have found myself doing that with this new land of just kind of sitting on the ground after a long day or midday when I'm tired and I need to take a snack or a break and just kind of closing my eyes and listening to the birds. And I know it sounds crazy if you haven't done it, but it feels so grounding um and just really feeling more connected to the space because we are co-creating as we are growing these flowers and these gardens. So thank you for that insight.
00:45:02
Jennifer Gulizia
Now, obviously you came to my property, you're only about an hour away from me, but you have done this work all over the world.
00:45:10
Brittney Herrera
It's true. um Yep, I have. And i love doing that, dropping into other places. So when I first was learning about this work, I did a lot of extracurriculars to expand consciousness. And i ended up doing quite a few courses with the Monroe Institute.
00:45:34
Brittney Herrera
And as it pertains to this work, I did a lot of remote viewing work. and And that is how i can tap into a property remotely. So whether it's an Ayurvedic center in Nepal or a regenerative farm in New Zealand, I can walk it remotely and then i will mail the cures to the people on the ground there and then have them place them where I find stress.
00:46:06
Jennifer Gulizia
which is how we first connected because our friend is at that regenerative farm in New Zealand and you helped geotune for them at that location. So I think that's so fascinating and so amazing that you can do this all over the world.
Contact Information for Further Engagement
00:46:22
Jennifer Gulizia
So if someone is listening today and wants more information about your work or they want to follow along, how can they get in touch with you?
00:46:32
Brittney Herrera
Yeah, you can find me at geotune.com or at thunder-egg.com and just shoot us a note. I'd love to have a chat.
00:46:41
Jennifer Gulizia
Perfect. And you're on Instagram as well. Is that correct?
00:46:43
Brittney Herrera
Yes.
00:46:45
Jennifer Gulizia
And I'll include links to all of those in today's show notes. Brittney before we say goodbye today, is there anything that I have not asked you that you want our listeners to know?
00:46:58
Brittney Herrera
I'm really grateful for the opportunity to talk about this work. I think it's really important to how we start to have a conversation and do that co-creation with our land and be that good steward into the future.
00:47:12
Brittney Herrera
So I think this is a really important conversation and I hope that people can be open-minded to receive what's possible for them and their land.
00:47:25
Jennifer Gulizia
Brittney it's been such a joy to talk with you today. And it's so fun to be able to share what we've been doing on our farm with others and to bring in an expert like you who has such knowledge about the geopathic stress that our lands might be facing. ah So thank you for taking the time to share your wisdom and knowledge today.
00:47:47
Jennifer Gulizia
And for those listening, if you are curious about this, please visit today's show notes so that you can connect further with Brittney And thank you so much for joining us today. And I'm sure i will be seeing you back out on my farm in the future.
00:48:02
Brittney Herrera
Thank you. It was a pleasure.
00:48:04
Jennifer Gulizia
Thanks, Brittney Take care.