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#210 Mo Toure No Problems
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He's only gone and done it again. All on the OTB podcast hail Mo Toure, Norwich City's wonder from down under, who bagged himself another hattrick, as the Canaries came from behind to triumph away from home again, this time with a 4-2 win at Roy Hodgson's Bristol City.
Ryan Livermore, Dan Brigham, Zoë Morgan and Steve Sanders congratulate themselves on their decision to tune in, kick off the Toure v Makama debate ahead of next season, ask how many strips Big Phil tore off them at half-time, and give some kudos to the thoroughly uncheeky Ryan Garry/Garry Ryan.
Plus, there may be no mysteries left to solve in the league for Norwich City, but there's still the case of the tactics board of truth, vending machine and all the other stuff to wrap up, as ChatGPT Get Banged draws to a dramatic . And arise the versatile Liam Giggs, an idiot leaves his phone on, and the launch of a new OTB feature coming next season featuring [dramatic pause]...audience participation!
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Transcript
Introduction and Special Segment Tease
00:00:14
Speaker
Hello and welcome to OTB, a Norwich City podcast, the NCFC show as classy as a hat trick completed by a rogue shoulder. I'm Ryan Livermore and tonight we at OTB talk the lessons learned from a week ago as Norwich City conduct a frantic second half forte full of fun and finesse.
00:00:34
Speaker
It's another Mo Torre treble and a solid bass for next year too. Music to your ears. There's also a double game week in store and most importantly, the finale of ChatGPT, Get Banged.
Panelist Introductions and Teasers
00:00:48
Speaker
Once again, it's a full house of panellists this evening. Back after a Delia impression worthy of SNL the UK, it's Zoe Morgan. and Zoe, I'm never going to let that drop, ever.
00:01:01
Speaker
Well, I enjoyed doing it and, you know, ah perhaps she'll make a return, I don't know, in ChatGPT, Get Banged tonight. I do hope she does because the last week when ever anything has gone slightly wrong, I have been going, you can't do that. That's not fair. Which I realised wasn't your Delia listening back. It was just you. it was just you. so I've just been doing an impression of you as an old lady, which has made my week. Can't be far off either. So good to practice.
00:01:30
Speaker
The next is the co-author of many a Norwich City works, but nothing will compare to the magnum opus to come later tonight. It's Dan Brigham. Dan, I know you don't want to give us any spoilers, but have you read the last episode of ChatGPT? And if so, where does it rank compared to the other 12 episodes?
00:01:49
Speaker
It's right there at the top, Brian. It's number one. it's got nu It's got nine characters in this. Nine characters? I've been weaving the web all week. I've done no other work. not Not slept to make sure this was done in time.
00:02:03
Speaker
How many pages, roughly, for nine characters? are Nearly four figures, but I've kept it within three figures. yeah lovely Lovely. We're going to set up a Patreon if you want to see the full theatrical cut of us reading reading the scripts later on.
00:02:19
Speaker
And finally, he is, of course, the best of us. So good, in fact, he's touting a lone move away in the near future. It's Steve Sanders. Steve, do you care to elaborate?
00:02:30
Speaker
ah I can elaborate for you. Hello, by the way. um this is This is why I get invited on shows like...the scrimmage. And when I say invited, we very much invited myself on. So I'm a nice... I'm a desperate publicity... ah Manga. Manga. Yeah, I'm not going to. I wasn't going to. was going to say manga. And again, that's why I get invited on the big show. and The reason for that I will reveal later on.
00:03:02
Speaker
um I mean, I'm reasonably excited about it. Perhaps no one else will be, but it's too late. I'm going to announce it. So, you know, stay tuned. I disagree. I'm as equally excited to hear it as everyone else's, which actually could go one of two ways. really so forget how I said anything. It doesn't fill me with joy, but you know like I say, it's too late. I don't care what anyone thinks. It's all about me. If i if I'd been writing that as a script in brackets, who would say yeah dripping with sarcasm.
00:03:32
Speaker
ah Should we talk about the football?
00:03:44
Speaker
Songbreak.
Norwich City's Recent Performances
00:03:48
Speaker
What a difference a week makes. Well, a half, I guess. You could have been forgiven for assuming Norwich were on the beach at halftime on Saturday, but the sun loungers were put away, the sun cream thrown across the dressing room without apology. Sorry, Brian. And Norwich came away from the West Country with a deserved three points.
00:04:08
Speaker
Zoe, after an underwhelming 135 minutes prior to the second half, that's a lot more like it, isn't it? Yeah, that's better. There's a slight concern, wasn't there, in the first half that maybe we had a bit of a hangover from the previous game, which probably would have been understandable. But as we said last week, Big Phil doesn't like these things to ah to linger. He doesn't like to let people rest on their laurels. So um I would love to have heard
00:04:39
Speaker
what he had to say in the dressing room at halftime after he'd made his way down all of the stairs from the gantry. um It's his one role of the day to deliver that halftime team talk. So i put I think he put a lot into it and it really did pay off. I think it was a...
00:04:57
Speaker
big um indicator to how much they'd been told off that Torre did not celebrate his first goal particularly. i think that's the sign of someone that's been told just to crack on and do something good um and see where they get to. So yeah, lovely to see the second half. Just really turned it on.
00:05:16
Speaker
So stylish, so interesting, so much fun. um And yeah, they're back again. Dan, ah is that the best ah half of football Norwich have played under Clermont?
00:05:28
Speaker
os um I guess not probably, just in terms of context, I suppose we've had more important you know more pressure on games ah than certainly we did against Bristol City. But one that's certainly one of the most enjoyable, we've had plenty of enjoyable halves um under Clermont, and that that was right up there.
00:05:49
Speaker
I think it's a sort of testament... to how fun it's been under Philip Clement since he came in that People even sort of bothered to tune in to to find streams for this game. Took 2,000 fans there as well.
00:06:04
Speaker
um That doesn't often happen in sort of dead robbers at the end of the season. That sort of commitment to wanting to get your Norwich City fix and obviously testament to how bad it was at the start of the season as well, that we just want to keep the this run that we're on at the moment and sort of enjoying football um again.
00:06:23
Speaker
it was yeah It was fun. it was It had all the good ingredients in it. Two comedy goals and two excellent goals. You had Cordoba sort of doing a Shane Warne googly past the keeper. I've watched it back so many times.
00:06:35
Speaker
Every time I'm going to think there's a deflection in there, but i don't think it is. The keeper just sort dives past it because there's quite a wicked spin on the ball. Then you got Toure sort of crotching a deflection in as well.
00:06:47
Speaker
And while the other two goals are sort of nice nicely crafted, particularly the Toure second strike, which... It could easily have been like Kenny to Stipe to Buendia to Pukki, that goal.
00:06:58
Speaker
It was such a perfect sort of in-transition goal, right from you know our own penalty box to into the back of the net at the other end as well. um So was yeah really after a really sort of timid first half, in which i just I did see quite a lot of people sort of starting to talk about we have problems...
00:07:17
Speaker
playing against a low block, and apologies if this is one of your questions, Ryan. But I saw a lot of that, and I think that was very much sort of based on the fact we couldn't break down Ipswich, which is a very low block, the cowards.
00:07:31
Speaker
But Ipswich, you know, as we know, have scored first 23 times this season, won 20 of them and not lost any of them. They can do that to teams. And I was trying to, I made a little note Against, you know, teams we've come up against with a low block under Clement, found ways to win against Charlton, Blackburn, Preston and Bristol City. Even in the games we lost against Birmingham and Southampton where we went behind early, we created unbelievable amount of chances in both of those games to get back into them against a team, two teams sitting deep.
00:08:04
Speaker
So ah i'm I'm not particularly worried about that myself. And I've i've really created something because you've you've not brought it up. But i just sort I just saw it so often at halftime that back on the back of Ipswich and that half that we struggled to break teams down. And bear in mind, we're doing that you know without a left back to get in behind.
00:08:23
Speaker
We're doing that without any sort of recognised right winger and we're doing that with Ahmed who just who's not allowed to have any sort of rest whatsoever um so ah yeah I have no issues with the way that Clemens sets us up against teams in the low block we have Liam Gibbs doing the left-back centre-mid hybrid, which Man City and Arsenal use so often as well. So I'm just, if we're going to compare ourselves to those teams, guys, I'm just saying it's not it's not it's not bad at all.
00:08:51
Speaker
Do you know what? will move the questions on. Thanks for that, Dan. Steve, ah is philip clement they sorry since Philippe Since Philippe Clermont has come in, Norwich have got the best away record in the division.
00:09:03
Speaker
ah Why is that, do you think? Because the the question over low blocks has been raised by a few people during the week. And as Dan says, there is some evidence to trump that. But is it a case of the game is a bit more expansive away from home and it allows Norwich to play through the lines in the ways they did on Saturday and against Millwall as as well in in transition? Or is it purely coincidental based on the kind of quality of opposition they're coming up against? Well, think it's just because we're not very good at playing against the low block, so teams will come back more. in deliver more but ah make Not quite that, but I think we are i think we are genuinely pretty good on on the counter-attack, and that that does tend to suit teams playing away from home a little better. the As Dan says, the the second goal was um an app was was just a
00:09:54
Speaker
beautiful, a beautiful counter-attacking goal. Absolutely perfect pass from Magoma. And then Schwartel, I didn't even see Toure. I just thought Schwartel was going to hit it and he played the perfect weighted ball. And I think i think we've got players who...
00:10:09
Speaker
um can think quickly when you know when they're running at pace. I think i think we've got players who who are ah good at that and and can operate and play the right pass at at the right time.
00:10:21
Speaker
i' just talking about a saying I'm just curious, Dan, which of the other goals was our great goal? Because I thought we scored one brilliant goal and three pretty scruffy ones. Did did you like this the set piece one?
00:10:32
Speaker
Yes, exactly. Yeah, the cross, I guess, we actually scored from a cross into the box, which is quite rare for us. And obviously, you know, Tori probably should bury that first up, shouldn't he?
00:10:44
Speaker
We'll let him off, I guess. It's a good going, you know. It's a good cross and a poacher's instinct to be in the right place. And and actually, not not the question you asked me, but something that I did think of, um is that I feel like last season, Nick Stanley came in for a lot of criticism. And actually, um we haven't scored a whole lot from set pieces. but And I think you've mentioned this before recently, Ryan. We have conceded by a reasonable distance the fewest goals from set pieces in the entire league. So um it's it's very much a net gain for us this season, both in terms of scoring scoring and and and not conceding. um
00:11:24
Speaker
But yeah, i mean, away from home, we are fantastic, really. like i was looking at the last 10 games and apologies for this being the latest episode of Steve just lists things. But the last 10 league games, we've won eight of them.
00:11:39
Speaker
And I would say QPR possibly possibly could have got pegged back, but I think probably deserve that win. Wrexham, again, on another day, they might have got a point.
00:11:50
Speaker
Then West Brom hammered them. Oxford hammered them. Leicester easily won 2-0. Charlton, I'd say we deserve that 1-0 win. Millwall 2-1, you know, probably our best performance of the season. And then I don't think we can argue that we deserve to win yeah on Saturday
Norwich's Player Development and Strategy
00:12:05
Speaker
as well. And then the two defeats against Borough and Southampton were tight games that we easily could have got something from and ah were against two of the form teams coming into that game. in in the entire league.
00:12:16
Speaker
I can't really remember a time when we've been better away from home than this over a prolonged period. I know that the Leeds game was in there and we and we kind of let ourselves down a little bit there, but but it bodes ever so well for next season because I think...
00:12:30
Speaker
It's probably easier to fix the home form than it is the away form, particularly when the atmosphere is good at Carrow Road. um So, yes, i I don't feel like I have answered the tactical question, but I have just re-emphasised that, yes, we're bloody good at the moment on the road. We'll come on to fixing the home form when we preview the next two games. But before then, Zoe, it's another hat trick for modes Mo Torre. And the third is obviously a different talking point in terms of the quality. But you look at his record now and also the way he has developed as a centre forward in the space of, what, three months, really, since he came over from Denmark. I mean...
00:13:08
Speaker
Looking at that, he must be in pole position to be the leading number nine next year, right? Or is that too much of a disservice on Big Drove on Makama? I mean, we we have very much missed McCarma when he's not been, I mean, he he had also come on so much, but it's been a revelation what's happened with Tory. I don't think anybody would have expected quite this kind of level of impact because it's it's so unheard of anyway, right? But just... the nature of him his signing, especially everything else that was going on with our strikers at the time.
00:13:43
Speaker
um it's been It's been brilliant. And um he's definitely going to give Makama a run for his money next next season. And what is really exciting to see is that he is clearly still so raw and so inexperienced. like He still goes through big patches of completely. where you think, has this guy ever played football before? He sort of sometimes runs around like he's not entirely sure where he is or what he's doing, but then it'll sort of something in him will just flick. And I think, and he'll just suddenly turn something on. And it's, it's really impressive. He obviously knows where he wants to be. He knows he wants to score. He knows he wants to assist. I was listening to Ryan Gary slash Gary Ryan, the post-match interview, um talking about how curious he is and how is so keen to learn. And I think that that's a really good quality. I think think you, I don't know many footballers personally, but I can only imagine that some of them sort of are quite difficult to teach because they think they know it all already. Um, but he sounds really open to sort of learning, getting better. I think, uh, pre a proper pre-season of fitness training, I think we'll do him a world of good because he, yes, he's quick, but he doesn't look, I don't think in the sharpest, um, place that he could be. So, Yeah, it's incredibly exciting. He seems like a lovely guy. um
00:15:12
Speaker
Everyone seems to want him to do well. um And, you know, there is rumours that we we might want to bring in another striker for for next season and and a more experienced striker. And I don't really know how I feel about that because it feels like we've got these two young guys that have got...
00:15:29
Speaker
such a lot of potential. And it would just be really nice to see one or both of them really growing and flourishing in the league next season and clearly scoring 40 50 goals. Ashley Barnes, experienced.
00:15:42
Speaker
and umm I'm really curious, sorry, Ryan, just to on that Makama-Ture debate, what people think. I mean, I i still think Makama, like, Ture's start has been incredible, maybe maybe the most prolific we've ever had. I haven't actually checked the numbers on that in the first 10 games, but I might try and do that before tomorrow's game. But...
00:16:02
Speaker
um I'm still in a weird way. I sort of don't know if he's good or not. I know that sounds stupid because he's scoring all kinds of goals, but you know, the the three goals that he got on Saturday, there's a part of me that thinks, how come that never happened to Chris Goran? But it it can't be coincidence that Toure is there and scores those guys. mean, the third one literally just hits him and goes in. And maybe that is the kind of thing where when you're on a purple patch, it just happens. But I could also see next season,
00:16:28
Speaker
him having a bit of a lean spell and things not being quite as good as they currently are. That's my feeling, on but I just don't know if and what other people are thinking in terms of, you know, new signing notwithstanding, who starts on that that first game next season for us.
00:16:41
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, i ah going back to the bring another striker in thing, I mean, i obviously I'm no football expert, despite what people on the podcast might think. You're not, you're not. Cheers, mate. I appreciate that. um I feel like it would be a bit of a waste of the two of them if you're kind of restricting their game time, because ultimately that's how these players improve. And Torre's exposure exposure to first team minutes has helped him no end, as with Makama as well. But I do agree. I think Torre is a bit more wild. And as Zoe said, he's way more raw than McCarma. And I think that's where some of the excitement around him comes from. But I think if you were to give him 46 games, hypothetically, I do think there is a bigger chance of a drop off in him compared to someone like Jovan McCarma, who... arguably has ah a wider skill set at his disposal because he's had to play out of position a lot more as well. And he, i think, is coping with the physicality of the championship much better, not least because he's dealt with similar in in League One. So I think it does, if if you were going to start from a completely clean slate, I think they would go with Makama up front, especially because as much as Torre has been good, I think you look at the games where both of them both of them were out
00:17:55
Speaker
And you can ah point to it and say we've missed McCarma, maybe not so much Torre as much like Ipswich as well as another one. I think Norwich really missed McCarma at Ipswich as probably the prime the prime example. But i ah yeah I don't know what Zoe and Dan think.
00:18:11
Speaker
i i was If this was happening under David Wagner, my opinion would be how How could he be talking about bringing another striker in when we've got these young players coming through? Norwich City should be all about developing young players and then hopefully allow you know they will help us get to the Premier League or we sell them for big profits.
00:18:33
Speaker
um What an outrage that doesn't want to develop with them But as it's Philippe Clement, I'm like, well, of course we need another experienced striker to come in. We don't want to put too much pressure on our young lads, do we? We don't want to expect that they're going to score all the goals next season. They need a bit of experienced help. Isn't Philippe Clement really sensible?
00:18:52
Speaker
um So, I'm sort of in the middle. I do think if it does come down to just McCarma and Torre next season, ah with you know due respect to Chris Gore and still being there as well, um then, yeah, as you say, Ryan, i think McCarma's got the more all-round game. I think his first touch is better.
00:19:09
Speaker
So, when we are playing against teams in low blocks, when we, you know, when we are one of the more feared teams next season, then having that sort of his hold-up play is considerably better than Toure's is at the moment, I would i would say. Although Toure, you know, is by no means terrible at it. It's just that McCama is...
00:19:30
Speaker
is better at that so I think he probably right now suits what Clement wants a little bit more than Torre does but Torre has got that sort of weird secret ingredient of being quite unpredictable which centre-backs sort of hate playing against I think um but yeah it does feel like they'll both be biding their time potentially next season if we're going to spend a lot of money on ah on a striker And we we've not seen him in a while, but I think we are all forgetting quite how massive Makama is as well. Like he is, he is enormous. and that is And surely he's grown another foot while he's been out because he's still only a young. The grow bag.
00:20:11
Speaker
yeah Yeah. He is, yeah, really something. And I think actually, well, one thing that I do think he needs to work on, this is my personal opinion, that Grant Holt should be in talking to him every single day. Holt, one of his really big skills was not only fouling other people, but getting fouled. And I think we he was always like the most he gave away the most fouls, but he was also fouled more than anyone else. um And I think that's what Makama really needs to learn.
00:20:42
Speaker
um Because at the moment, I think he is un unfair unfairly persecuted because of his size and I think it's very easy when he out muscles somebody just because he's bigger and he's stronger for a referee to give a foul um so he's doing half of the job but he's not quite learned yet how to get fouled um and I think that could really make the difference between him being a very promising championship player and a very good one because Yeah, things seem a little bit skewed in against him in that way because of his his size.
00:21:18
Speaker
Maybe Holti is the next, is the experienced striker we need to sign up. Can I just make story one final point on Toure, which is, and again, while while I'm handing out redemptions to people, one of the big criticisms I think we all had of Ben Napa at the start of the season was signing players that did not fit the manager's system.
00:21:39
Speaker
Toure is, to me, an example, you know and he might be a bargain because he's just really, really good, but looks like a player who... fits exactly the way that Philippe Clement wants to play and how much Clement had to do with that, don't know. But I think that is that just a really sound bit of recruitment based on the manager and the system that we currently have.
00:21:58
Speaker
yeah i i Yeah, I completely agree with that as well. And the thing is, as well, ultimately, even though I do think McCarma is probably more ready-made to start more consistently, as we've said dozens of times, Toure is ultimately improving and is getting the the numbers to back it up as well. So it's ah yeah it's only is only encouraging from this point, really. um Speaking Philippe Clement, Dan, he obviously was suspended for the game on Saturday. he his influence was more limited, given that during the game he couldn't really communicate, bar...
00:22:28
Speaker
ah barring through an ned an air piece. and My God. Jesus Christ. An ear piece. um but How much does this kind of reinforce the idea of the group kind of being ah brought into into what is being done here? and And that includes the coaching staff as well, that his absence wasn't so significant. Like i look back at the time where we had Liam Manning at the start of the season and there was a big emphasis on players having to make the right decisions and he wanted them to mature quickly to make those decisions. And ultimately, you have to coach them before they can do that. And it does feel like they're now in a position where if Philippe Clement isn't as active on the touchline or isn't available to be active, they are still able to do the stuff that he wants them to, doesn't it?
00:23:14
Speaker
Yeah, although it could be argued that they very much didn't do the stuff he wanted them to do in the first half. Yeah, true. i don't i I didn't notice any sort of pining sideways glances to the dugout in the first half while the players were sort desperate to...
00:23:28
Speaker
be told exactly what to do. And then he came marching down for his 15 minute cameo, like Judi Dench in Shakespeare in Love, oh or a more up-to-date reference that I can't think of off the top of my head. There he was making a difference at halftime. And I think it was noticeable pretty early on how Kenny sort of got the game In the second half by the scruff of the neck, like he was doing his manager's job out there um on the pitch as well.
00:24:03
Speaker
So anyway ah obviously you want players to take responsibility, but I think Clement is very much a manager who will be like, actually, I want you to do what I will tell you to do.
00:24:14
Speaker
Whereas Manning was like, just go and make up your own mind. um I know like lots of academies, it's like the Brighton one was reading about, are big on barely sort of coaching them tactically.
00:24:29
Speaker
at formative years, they let so that they develop their own a way of sort of taking decisions in game. But what strikes me as a bit more sort of of a throwback, sort of maybe six or seven years where managers were very, very keen that their players just followed their and instructions. And we've been set up in a way that makes it very clear that they do know exactly what they're doing as well. So you would like to think that if he was suspended again with another six months under the belt and a pre-season under their belt, they won't be turning to the bench. They will just know exactly what they need to do when things are going badly and don't have to wait till half-time to be shouted
00:25:11
Speaker
Steve, the last bit of this segment is going to go to you. it's ah Ultimately, we can talk about talk about tactics and managerial influences or until the sun goes down. But honestly, isn't this just what it's all about at the moment? like Players and fans that look to both be having fun. And as we mentioned earlier, It's a dead rubber, but you know you've got people who are looking at streams. There's 2,000 fans who travelled hundreds of miles to what is essentially going to be a nothing game in the grand scheme of things. um It's just nice, again, isn't it, as bland as that sounds. It's just wonderful to feel that connection with the football club and and enjoy the moments that you have with with this side, even when it doesn't ultimately mean much in terms of a ah physical prize at the end of it.
00:25:57
Speaker
Yeah, you know, Zoe touched on it as well. it does it it does say something for the way that we all feel that we bothered to tune in at all. like I was at halftime questioning my life choices, being like, what am I doing? This game means to nothing and nothing. And then it was like, well, yeah, of course, like i I am properly invested in this team at the moment. I i always want Norwich City to do well, although there are times this season when perhaps I haven't been hoping for a win. But um it's it's enjoyable it's enjoyable to watch. um We've got a team, you know, i still think we are...
00:26:33
Speaker
Probably one of the more well remunerated squads in the championship, but it does feel that we've got a team that's greater than the sum of its parts right now. We've got a young team. We've got a hungry team that plays front foototed front foot football. um So, yeah, there's there's a huge amount to like. um The manager you know is somebody who brings people with him and has has brought an entire fan base with him, not just by what we see on the pitch, but by the way that he acts in in press conferences and you know and and by the about the way he speaks about the club. So, yeah, there's there's a huge amount to like. And and like you said, that is what football is all about. And, um yeah, I mean, what, four goals in about 20 second half minutes. um i don't I don't think it was the best half of football, we've had this season, but yeah, it's not, it's no longer unexpected because we're in that nice phase that you occasionally get as a football fan where you kind of expect the unexpected or you certainly at least hope for it. So um God, yeah, i I'm sad in a way that we only have three more games this season, but um all being well optimistic that that we can continue to push on next year.
00:27:43
Speaker
I mean, there is a there is a world where the the three teams above Norwich and Norwich themselves finish on 70 points and Norwich get sixth on goal difference. So, I mean, i'm just saying I'm just saying you could have your wish granted for that little bit longer, but it's going to unlikely, isn't it? um The one thing I want to point out as well is, and I could be wrong based on ah the fact that Premier League rules could differ differ from the EFL, but unless a manager has a continued suspension of multiple games, I think they still can do post-match media, I want to say. So Philippe Clement, in theory, could have done the presser on Saturday after the game, but instead gave it to Ryan Gary. And it's nice to have this kind of moment where you go... Yeah, I might have had you know a bit of influence at halftime, but ultimately it was you and Stefan van der Heiden. They're the guys who took who took the team, so you should have the chance to front up for it and celebrate in a kind of more personable way, which I think is wonderful. And that's the kind of manager I want in my football club.
00:28:48
Speaker
After um Russell Allen, Alan Russell, do we only give that responsibility to people now with two man's names? Hopefully. Well, Philippe Clement is in the same boat. clementt Yeah, Clement Philippe. Yeah, Clement Philippe. Philippe Clement.
00:29:03
Speaker
I thought Ryan Gary Gary Ryan spoke really well, actually, for someone that, you know, doesn't do this on a regular basis. He didn't have the ah the delightful cheekiness of, of big Phil, um, and the glint in his eye, but, uh, thought that, yeah, very few wasted words, very clear on what he wanted to say. Very personal. I thought he did a good job.
00:29:23
Speaker
I like the idea that big Phil came down and like gave him a hairdryer as well as saying, you've got to be more cheeky, please. Please be more cheeky. please Please, please, Vending machines, tactics boards, surprise guests and questionable accents. It's all come down to
'ChatGPT, Get Banged' Finale
00:29:40
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this. It's time for the finale of the acclaimed Chat GPT. Get banged.
00:29:56
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Thank you, Ryan. Yes. So here we are. The final episode of ChatGBT Get Banged. The series that follows Grant Holt, Wes Houlihan and private investigator Dave Stringer as they attempt to uncover the truth behind the Tactics Board of Truth during not even...
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Sorry, saying truth twice in five words. really true That far is bad copywriting. Apologies for that. During Norwich City's 2010-11 promotion season. So for one final time, here's a quick catch-up.
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The tactics board of truth has been found. The magnets are shifting. The vending machine is fully kicking off. And worst of all, the diamond formation is starting to change. But why? Who's behind it?
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And can Norwich City secure promotion without reality itself collapsing into tactical chaos? Starring Zoe Morgan, Ryan Livermore and NCFC Sanders. It's time to find out. It's the final episode of ChatGBT.
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Get banged.
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Norwich City were promoted. You could tell they'd been promoted because the players were on an open-top bus parade through the city, like farm animals being taken to the abattoir, only good. On top of the bus stood Wes, Holti, Dave Stringer and Paul Lambert.
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Also present, John Ruddy polishing his gloves, Simon Lappin drinking from a hip flask of paella, David McNally stroking his cat, not a euphemism, Delia Smith waving to the crowd, Michael Bailey who had turned up late for some tiresome reason, and Des Lynam.
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combing his mustache and flicking through hinge. And here they come, Norwich City, said Dez, who was commentating to himself.
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A side built on structure, spirit, a great deal of hearty spunk, and what I can only assume is an alarming amount of lasagna. Eat good, is Dez, says Holti, sipping from his pint of Bucksfizz.
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Although I've learned from experience that a moustache attracts bechamel sauce like flies to a turd. Whir, clunk! The vending machine was making its customary noise, but this time it strapped to the back of the bus with scarves.
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Right, said Stringer, who, with some justification, felt like his role had become something of an afterthought throughout this series. That's enough now. No more clues. No more silly wee riddles.
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Said Wes, who was sitting on a Vesper. I just want to know what the heck is going on with all this bunch of crap. The lads all turned to poor Lambert, who appeared to be wearing an Aston Villa shirt underneath his suit.
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You knew what this was the whole time, didn't you, Mr Lambert? Lambert nodded. Aye, it was all part of the master plan. Cooked up at Colney by myself, Ian Culverhouse, and that other one.
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Go on then, gaffer. Give us a proper explanation. Lambert glanced at Delia, who stepped forward. I'll take this one, Paul, said Delia.
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It's all to do with the system. Delia pointed around them. The
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Don't forget cultural ambiguity, mi senora. chimed in, lapping, drinking in Australia. When all of those elements are aligned, the Tactics Board of Truth settles.
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So what happens when the board isn't settled, Lady D? Delia looked at Wes. Doubt creeps in. Wes chuckled to himself, remembering the penalty miss against Preston.
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It was only one penalty. It was a bad one. A Penenka, for goodness sake. You're from Dublin, not Rio de Janeiro. That doubt spread.
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Quietly. Inside the club. And I was the one tasked with bloody well writing about it, cobbers, said Michael Bailey, who was also filming himself. Everyone turned to Michael. He took off his hat with those corkscrews dangling from it.
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Struth, and my writing was full of the most accurate hot takes you can possibly flame and imagine. Delia nodded. Unfortunately, accuracy at that moment was dangerous to the club's chances of promotion.
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So that's why Lambert kidnapped Michael? Not just because of his eyes, which could out-siren even a sexy mermaid siren call, but to stop him writing accurately about Norwich's nerves.
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I simply... quieten the
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You kidnapped a journalist, Gaffer, and stuck him in the dungeons of a castle. I simply paused the narrative. You didn't feed him for six days, Gaffer.
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I'm afraid Paul had no choice. If doubt had grown, the balance would have gone completely. The tactics board of truth would have lost shape.
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And what about the Vendian machine? What the sweet bollocks is all that about? The vending machine is a reaction mechanism. pushes things back into line.
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Suddenly, there was a loud whir-clunk. They all turned to see that inside the vending machine, the magnets were still shifting. Still wrong. So why the hell is it still not fixed then?
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Delia looked at Haltie's hand. Not the hand holding the three-point jug of Bucks Viz, but the hand holding the yellow magnet. Because, my dears, you haven't finished the job. Holtie blinked.
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Oh, bugger me. I forgot I was holding that this whole time. They all turned and there it was. The Tactics Board of Truth, which was being held by that kit man who's in all those videos.
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The board was showing a formation that was almost a diamond, but not quite. Go on then, Holtie, son. Complete the job. Holtie stepped forward and held up the magnet.
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Big moment, Haltie. I've had a few this season, Wes. Here goes nothing. Haltie placed the yellow magnet on the board, creating the perfect diamond.
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Suddenly, the vending machine went silent. The noise from the crowd doubled. Everything felt right. Balance is fully restored, which means we might just take the Premier League by storm next season. You never know, boys. Unless a bigger club comes calling, of course.
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What was that, gaffer? Nothing, Grant. Nothing. So what about that stuff about someone nicking everything from our trophy cabinet in the first episode of this? And the mystery of the chocolate chip being left everywhere?
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And why was there an inflatable banana in the vending machine in episode four? Before anyone could provide a really obvious and clear answer to tie up those very irresolvable, unresolved plot strands, there was a sudden commotion.
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John Ruddy, now wearing gloves on his feet as well as his hands, was squaring up to David McNally's cat. For the last time, John, he's not worth it. Ruddy paused, nodded, and went back to showing his son what you should and shouldn't like on Instagram.
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The bus pulled up at City Hall. Des Linen was the first to get off with what looked like Helen Mirren on his arm while David McNally was there to greet Wes and Holti. Right, lads. Enjoy yourselves.
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McNally said, furiously rubbing his nose. You've f***ing earned this, f***.
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They made their way up to the balcony. Delia stepped forward.
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Let's be having you, Norwich! Delia bellowed to the sea of yellow and green which erupted in joy. Holti leaned on the railing and looked at Wes. So, that's that then, Wes.
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That's it, Holti. All that madness. And all along the Tactics Board of Truth was just keeping things balanced this whole time, helping us win promotion to the Premier League.
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Holti nodded and put his arm around Wes's wee little shoulders. Funny old game, isn't it, Wes? It's a simple game, really, as long as you've got a diamond formation.
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And a decent post-match lasagne. The two Norwich City legends looked out across the market and beyond the castle, behind which the sun was beginning to set, drawing another fine season to a close,
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gone but never to be forgotten.
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I wonder what bits Dan wrote!
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I'm slightly annoyed because i think that was my best line of the whole series. I'm going to have to bleep the whole thing out. I felt quite tearful at the end of that. Yeah. That looks quite emotional, actually. The but untold story of the season. Who knew how what was going on? Well, well done, Dan. Yeah, well done. Did I write, I think by this stage, we mean everything. yeah and And tied up at least some of the loose ends anyway. It's good. It's good work.
00:39:45
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Yeah. It's okay. There's room for spinoffs. There's room for spinoffs in this day and age. So we're good. We're good. Thank you all for for such great voice work throughout as well. Many, many highlights.
00:39:56
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No, no, thank you. It's been a genuine treat. Like just, I mean, oh feel like I'm going to cry now. oh I'd like to apologize to both Steve and Ryan, who are very good at doing accents for my accent throughout this whole thing. I mean, are we? To be fair, Steve's Glaswegian is incredible to the point where I just want you to talk like that for the rest of the episode now Well, and I'd like to apologise to that listener who once called us self-indulgent for the last two minutes of us roundly congratulating each other on our brilliant...
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ah
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but And thank you to Connor Southwell as well, who stepped in admirably to play, I think, Dave Stringer. when Dave Stringer. His Stringer was wonderful. Yeah. But not as good as yours, Steve, of course. Let's talk about that for a second.
00:40:48
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It was the gold standard Dave Stringer impression. I think it really was. Well done, Connor. It's a double game week ahead for Norwich City, starting with their final night under the lights against Derby County on Tuesday, then the final Curra Road assignment of the season against Swansea on Saturday. It's been nine years since the Canaries last beat the former at home and have only lost to the latter at home once in the last 17 years.
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ah Dan, how important are the next two games in instilling some excitement excitement excitement of Gun Stringer? my god but in in so ways yeah How important are the next two games in instilling excitement and and goodwill going into next season? Given Norwich's home record has been the weaker than the... can't even do anymore,
00:41:41
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Is this game important, Dan? Is it important? Is it important for next season? would say not, no. is it I think... um No, I don't think it is important. i don't mean um Obviously, there's Clement Ward and the high standards and it's important to carry that on to make you know to see a team, a group of players who really want to compete and win for this football club and for their for their manager. Yeah.
00:42:10
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um It'd be interesting to see, I think, just sort of casting heads next season. I found it interesting that Gibbs came in at left back. and So Fisher could go back to right back. I don't know whether that was just to give Stacey a rest or whether tactically Clement doesn't see...
00:42:28
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Stacey fitting. I don't know the answer to that, but it was sort of noticeable that Gibbs performed that role of stepping into midfield sort of really diligently and quite well, I thought. Left back in a way that Stacey's game isn't built for.
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Interesting to see who starts at number 10 because, you know, suddenly Magoma is starting and playing the majority of the match and I thought was excellent second half. in that battle with um ah Slimani and sort of looking ahead again, whether Schwartel can sort of advance his case for starting next season as well. You know, he turns 20 soon, he's still a teenager though.
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um And I think if it hadn't been interrupted by injury, which kept him out for sort of what, four or five weeks, there's a case to be made that his development has maybe been even more rapid than...
00:43:19
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Anyone else's, maybe Barcordober under Clement. So there are little things that at play. I mean, ultimately, the result won't matter much and we'll we'll forget it you know this in in a couple of months' time. But there are sort of little things at play in terms of what sort of profile Clement wants in particular areas on the pitch, I think.
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Steve, Dan spoke briefly there about Liam Giggs at Liam Giggs. LAUGHTER Didn't do that earlier in the series? Yeah, yeah. Ryan Gibbs, I think I called Ryan Gibbs, about Ryan ryan Gibbs, Liam Giggs, whatever his name. Liam Gibbs at left back. And he and he did float into midfield a lot, which allowed Norwich to be very fluid in that middle third. and allowed for more combinations and it's something we haven't really seen ah in the games um prior to saturday are these games a good chance to i guess try out things like that and see if they work or is there not enough real agency around them to ah see how they're applied in a pressure situation if that makes sense rather than this just kind of being a a one-off uh development
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Yeah, I kind of think Big Phil probably wants both worlds of luck. I'm going try a few things, but you'd all better bloody win these games and but and play well. um i I think, yeah, there probably is a little bit of room for that. I guess in an ideal world, you're not playing Liam Gibbs at left-back next season. But that said, I actually thought i thought he was really good on on Saturday. Maybe maybe that's over-egging it slightly, but like it's not even it's not his first-choice position. It's probably not even his second-choice position. He's very much the...
00:44:54
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the lunggi the new Lungy, or even like a new Phil Neville of just someone, just just stick him somewhere on the pitch and he'll he'll probably do ah a solid enough job for you. um So, yeah, i wouldn't wouldn't hate seeing it again. i i think Fisher's been slightly hard done to this season, having to move across quite as often as he has. And, you know, and let's be fair, has done an exceptional job.
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so Well, i think I think we've basically written him off as a left-back under Liam Manning, but has done a very good job um under Clement when when he's played there. So um either option would would be perfectly serviceable. I think we probably will see Stacey start in at least one of these two games purely because he's a more attacking option at full-back. And I think we'll we'll want to get at teams a little bit more. Schwartau probably...
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place Plays a little bit wider on that right-hand side um than, say, someone who, you know, like a Gibbs, for it for example, or I can't think of anybody else. I suppose maybe Magoma. So if Svartal starts again, I would maybe expect to see Fisher there at right back. But if Big Phil mixes it up a little bit, then um it could well be Stacey out there. So, yeah, I um sort of, as as Dan says, pressure's off. So what don't mind us trying stuff out. Big Sanders.
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And I'm getting a call, so. Sorry. It's because connected to my computer. did it did Did it say Big Sanders?
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over it's Just his motivational alarm that goes off. Just a positive affirmation alarm. Hello, big boy. How are you today? I was going to say it's my dad, but that's really good. Is that any response to me introducing you as NCFC, Sanders? yeah've I've changed i've changed my yeah my name to Mr. Big. is you know Don't listen to him, Steve. You're going on the scrimmage next week. Big boy.
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Note to self, turn off phone. um Zoe, Derby are still a side with a lot to play for. And are they kind of the benchmark for ah Norwich, given that they also had a similar slow start at the beginning of the campaign and they've grown into a side which are now challenging for the top six? And equally as well, you know, we said about Philippe Clement not wanting to drop the standards.
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Derby are still in Norwich's sights in theory, if we are hell-bent on finishing much higher in the league as well. So as much as we've played down the fact that there's nothing really riding on this game, in a small way, I guess there sort of is for Norwich, right?
00:47:36
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Yeah, and that's the messaging that is coming from from everyone, from Big Phil, from Ryan Gary, Gary Ryan, from the players that they want to keep moving up the league. And if they want to do that, they kind of need to beat Derby ah on on Tuesday. So, um you know, that's the first that's the first step.
00:47:55
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It feels like, I mean, I know, you know, these things can be platitudes and people say things that they think people want to hear, but it genuinely doesn't feel like that with this bunch. It feels like they know what they want.
00:48:07
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Feels like they want to end the season as strongly as possible. um And they're going, they're going to do that, but it will be an interesting test. As you say, Derby do have something to potentially be playing for. um And they've had an excellent season. I don't think many people would have, would have backed them to be where they are, where they are now. And they've seemed to have sort of, there's been a lot more attention on other teams and they've sort of quietly gone about their business. So um yeah, it'll be an interesting, you interesting game. i mean, talk, talk about ah mysteries. If we're still doing this podcast in 15 years time, I think the mystery that's going to need solving is how the hell,
00:48:44
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these two teams can be playing each other in eighth and ninth after what we saw one of the worst championship games of football oh gosh between the two earlier this season. And Derby have done it without even changing their manager. So quite extraordinary.
00:48:59
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and was Sorry, forgive my ignorance. Was Eustace not brought in like before that ah to ah as a prior sacking? Or was he was he there since August at the start of the season as well? He was brought in towards the end of last season to replace Paul Warren and drag them out of the... but He joined from Blackburn, who were, think, in the playoffs at that time. and Yes, of course they were. Yeah, my gosh. Good good choice, as it as it turned out it's what It's wild, isn't it, the managerial merry-go-round that in my head, I just assumed that when we were both in the bottom three or whenever whatever we were back in September, that it would have inevitably been ah sacking that has led to them going up the table. you know It's crazy the the change they've undergone and fair play to them.
00:49:40
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Every time we play Derby County, I do wonder how Matt Clark is a professional footballer. And yet, they love him. They think he's... There are lots of shouts for him to be in the EFL team the season, which, to be fair, he probably could have got in because it is really bad, that EFL team of the season. And every time we play them, I... I swear he should be sent off at least twice and doesn't get a yellow at any point. So here's to him probably headering in the winner in the 90th minute now. And then taking his shirt off and getting booked and you're like, there it is. There's the booking at last.
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and We can briefly touch on Swansea, but I feel like any kind of semblance of excitement for that game does hinge on Norwich's results tomorrow night. And in addition, the results for the sides around them too. But they're again, are a side who've had nothing to play for, which hasn't stopped them winning. They've essentially sent Leicester down as well. So, I mean, if we're looking at it a week from now, guys, even with that in mind, are we thinking six points, four points, three points, or maybe one or zero? I'll start with you, Zoe.
00:50:42
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At least six, I'd say. extra three for being so good as well. Yeah, absolutely. And having the best manager. Nice. Dan? Six points. Hull will have lost both their matches and suddenly the playoffs are on.
00:50:58
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Do you know what? I got briefly excited about that, but then I saw that Hull are playing Leicester tomorrow. so and Leicester are pretty damn s***. Have you got Charlton as well over there at the weekend?
00:51:10
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They do. They've got Charlton away as well, I believe. But then I looked at it and thought, if lester hypothetically, if Leicester actually win the next two games by some minor miracle, they are then within one win of Blackburn and they have to go to Ewood Park on the last game of the season. So it's not like it's completely out of the realms of possibility. And I know it's it's purely hypothetical, but it's at that stage of the season where even the slightest possibilities are pretty damn juicy. I can't remember which one of their players it was, but they had ah they were losing 1-0 at Portsmouth. yeah portsmouth yeah And they had a free kick about 40 yards out.
00:51:47
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um And instead of you know launch it into the box, he he he hit it for at goal, tried to score. And it just sort of dribbled slowly along the six-yard box and out for a goal kick. And there was no remonstration from his teammates. They all just sort of looked at the ground and slowly walked off. Oh, God.
00:52:06
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As a club, that is not going to pick up another point. Nope. Somebody I know is a Leicester fan and there's a kind of of a fan group who are voting for Harry Winks as their player of the season, just to give the outside opinion that he's been really good so that they can get him off the wage bill next year.
00:52:25
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Here comes Wrexham. Here come Wrexham, exactly. ah Steve, what are your thoughts going into the next two games? I am going to be proper Buzz Killington here, but I i think, well, i mean, four points still lot of points, right? I think tomorrow is going to be tough. um We're famously awful against a low block. And I think that that's maybe what Derby will bring. they've They've been good away from home this season. So I think it will be a good, and you know, and we might come out the right side of it as we... um We have done in many, many occasions, but I think maybe draw in that one and then we'll finish on a high against Swansea. um Just another thing to look out for if if we need an extra thing to care about in these games. A couple of ex-strikers coming back. Carlton Morris, don't know whether he'll start for sure on Tuesday. Start the last game, i think. Did he? Cool. And then um Adam Eder, who, same thing, may well not start, but we may we may see both at some point. I hope Eder doesn't get a bad reception. I think i don't think he deserves that.
00:53:24
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ah Just sorry to bring it back to that yeah EFL team the season, because it's relevant here. 15th place Swansea have two players in that EFL team of the season.
00:53:36
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We had two players last year. Yeah, we were rubbish at prep. Who are the two? There's there's Josh Tymon and who else? Potnick. Oh. you keep just yeah addme out this side Yeah, to be I mean, he's had a good season as well. ah let's Let's move on to Kenny, other business, because I do want to talk about the championship team of the season and how um there are literally, I'd say, three players in that team who I think are ready for the Premier League and the other eight are...
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kind of indicative of how poor this season has been in quotation marks. I know that it's all it's well relative and whatnot, but I think for me, ah Kramer, Rushworth, and... Oh, I've forgotten his name. The sentiment. Hackney.
00:54:20
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Hackney, yeah. I think they're the three. They're the three who probably could do it in the Premier League, but I mean, the rest of them are... I do leave a lot to be desired. i just wanna to know what you guys think on that. Well, Dan, you've clearly got strong opinions on it. I just brought it up. So just read it out. It's Carl Rushworth. And then in a 442, Van Ulic, Kramer, Callum Doyle, formerly of Norwich City's Parish. Josh Tymon as the back four, and then Femi Aziz, who I do like. oh yeah On the right, Hayden Hackney and Matt Grimes in the centre.
00:54:50
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Sorba Thomas on the left. Unbelievable. And Hadji Wright and Zan Vipopnik. up and top and yeah i agree entirely like this is no slight on those players by the way they're all very good players i agree that probably three of them only three of them have got a decent premier league chance of you know making it a step up but i think it's probably more indicative of ah a pretty weak um championship season uh no one from sandhamton and ipswich uh ipswich obviously deserved but i'm amazed sienza from sandhamton is not in that team is probably
00:55:25
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alongside Hackney, the best attacking player I've seen this season. But yeah, just think it all points to the fact that as much as we're having a lot of fun at the moment under Big Phil, it is going to boil down to be ah probably a wasted opportunity this season, unfortunately.
00:55:42
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ah Just a couple of quick things. You've already mentioned it, Dan, but it reach and southaton but none of no players from any of the three relegated clubs, which is pretty unusual. And I think therefore you've got a team of players there.
00:55:55
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think Timon may have played a handful of games and maybe a couple of the others have, but most of them have never played in the Premier League. so It probably does look a bit crap from from that perspective because a lot of these players, I don't know, might be yet to reach their potential. That's probably being generous. I'm not um necessarily expecting Sorba Thomas to start turning out regularly for you know a Bournemouth or a Brentford or anything like that. um But I think you're right. It looks weak and it does sort of reinforce the whole, God, we missed out this season feeling that I think some of us have got.
00:56:27
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Yeah, it's like ah us and 10 other teams are probably thinking the exact same thing as well, right? Like it's just been the division ah this year on the whole. When do you sorry when do you think Leicester City fans stopped thinking that and started thinking like, are we gonna have to be saying the same thing next season but in League One? LAUGHTER Oh, gosh. if If their social feed is anything to go by, probably January time, really.
00:56:52
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i do I do fear for that that club's existence on the whole, which is, yeah, terrifying. ah and God forbid Norwich ever get into that situation. It would be funny if they Ranieri back in, though, next season.
00:57:03
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Take them up from League One. Yeah. they do that in Italy with, was it, can't remember, Como, maybe? Maybe. went to a smaller club a few seasons ago and either saved them from relegation or got them promoted. Was it Cagliari? I think it might have been Cagliari. Cagliari, that's it,
00:57:21
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it' searching him on Google, it's come up as Ranieri Claudio, further adding to the ah theory of Claudio Ranieri, Ranieri Claudio. not sure if Ranieri is a gentleman's name in Italy, but yeah. Yes, would have been Cagliari. Yes, Cagliari. Then he got to move to Roma after that.
00:57:40
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Nice. This is a Norwich podcast. Why i'm talking about Claudio Ranieri, I'll never know. um ah Steve, I'll hand over the rest of Kenny of the business to your good self. Yeah, my feature is just talking about Claudia Ranieri's history. I'll just carry on you left off. No, thank you, Ryan. um Yes, it's time to get excited, everyone, because...
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Your alarm's gone off again. Sorry, I just need to get that. ah We have a new feature exclusive, and...
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This feature is one that you, listener, can get involved with because... Bear with me. Next season, we're going to be counting down Norwich City's best player of the 21st century. I have unilaterally decided that we're doing this. And, you know, 26 years in is an appropriate time as any. And we need your help.
00:58:35
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So ah it's it's as simple as this. So the Guardian, i don't know if people are familiar with this, but they choose the best men's and women's footballers in the world at the end of the year. So it's kind of similar to that. and They use a panel of experts, but we don't need experts because we've got OTB listeners.
00:58:53
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Dot, dot, dot, who are experts. That felt like a bit of a bit of a burn. yeah think I think I saved myself at the end there. Most respect for OATV listeners. um So we're going asking for Norwich City fans to name their top 25 players um from 1 to 25 between now and the start of next season. So top player scores 25 points all the way down to the 25th player who scores one point.
00:59:18
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Sounds like a lot, but you have got a whole summer to do it. So, you know, you can give it a bit thought. We can give it no thought. It's really up to you. We'll then tally up the results, count them down for the whole of next season. I have a real feeling by the end of August, I'm going to be thinking, what on earth did I decide to do this? Until we find out who the official greatest Norwich City player of this century is.
00:59:37
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Funny. So during the week, this is not launched yet, but we'll be sharing a Google form on our Instagram um Again, I don't think I've consulted on this, but why not? um and Probably on Twitter as well. um And it will be limited to the satisfyingly exactly 200 players who have played 20 plus games for us. So um you can't vote for Carlo Nash, but you can vote for George Long. Please don't. Has he played 20 games for us? He has in fact played 20 plus games. So like if he ends up on top of this, then if if people don't want to do this, then that is a surefire way to get this whole thing cancelled. It's just put George Long at the top. um Yes, I realise that not everyone likes making lists quite as much as I do.
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But yes, I thought this would be something that we could attempt next season and no one else has done it before. Might be a reason for that. But that's my idea. So stay tuned. Thank you very much.
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exciting Very motivational, Steve. well yeah I think I talked myself out of it about eight times. I won't ask for exacts, but does our panel have in mind who their top player is?
01:00:48
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Yes. Really? Really? Well, I've changed mine sort of three or four times, so but i think I do think I know who mine is. would be harder if um it included the 90s, you know, when we were really good.
01:01:03
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But that would be a tough choice for me. But i think I think I know my top three and in what order. Oh, you see, I'm like Steve, I've got three who are just floating around and orbiting my brain and I'm not quite sure who to lock in yet.
01:01:19
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Like you've been knocked out in a cartoon and they're just going around you. here Yeah, just George Long going, what are you doing here?
01:01:27
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I think that's all for this week's OTB and Norwich City podcast. A huge thank you to Zoe Morgan. Thanks, Ryan. To Dan Brigham. Thank you, Ryan. And Steve Sanders. Thank you, Rowan, because I didn't get a chance to say it on the pod. Get it right up you, Sam Morsi.
01:01:44
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Yes, yes, yes. I had a whole thing planned to talk about, but you know what? We were having such a lovely time. I didn't want to bring the the mood down because he is a, a he's a prick.
01:01:55
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Yeah. What would McNally call him, do we think? and ah I think you'd have one.
01:02:08
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