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Ep. 57 - Sweetness and Light

Sweetness and Light
Sweetness and Light

66 plays · Sep 1, 2022

On this episode, Eric talks how editing is going for his short film "Contacts" + Justin compliments Eric on his ability to self-promote in the industry!

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Speaker: Good morning and welcome to yet another episode of Sweetness and Light.

Speaker: I'm one of your hosts, Justin, a.k.a.

Speaker: Justy, along with... Another one of your hosts, Eric.

Speaker: How's it going this morning, Justy?

Speaker: Well, first of all, buenos, buenos dias to you.

Speaker: And I gotta tell you, for those that don't know, this is three times in one week we're recording.

Speaker: Yeah, and by our count, episode 212, so the boiling point.

Speaker: We're finally there.

Speaker: And it's a palindrome, right?

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, but I mean the temperature at which water boils in Fahrenheit, I mean, if for some reason it's there.

Speaker: I was going to say, 212 in Celsius, that's muy caliente, as you like to say.

Speaker: Warm, yeah.

Speaker: Okay, warm.

Speaker: Dude, how you been?

Speaker: Pretty good, thanks, buddy.

Speaker: How about yourself?

Speaker: Just keeping things going.

Speaker: Our little short film contacts well into post-production.

Speaker: We're in the final stages, planning to submit for Sundance and a few other festivals.

Speaker: I know you've taken a look at the...

Speaker: The very rough cut.

Speaker: We've gotten some positive feedback.

Speaker: People think it's hilarious, interesting, provocative, and one guy compared it to one of your favorite shows, Black Mirror, and I'll take that.

Speaker: Yeah, it could be a lot worse, right?

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Dude, so when will I get to be able to see the final product?

Speaker: It could be like Black Like Me, and I'm, you know, quality stuff, but it's not necessarily what we're looking for.

Speaker: Absolutely.

Speaker: So when can I get a preview of this final product, my friend?

Speaker: Soon, soon.

Speaker: We were just I'm talking to our sound guy this afternoon and, you know, do the final sound editor and everything.

Speaker: And he's you know, he's he's given it the once or twice or thrice over already and feels we're very close.

Speaker: Now it's time to to bring it home, as you like to say.

Speaker: Dude, congrats.

Speaker: That's high five, man.

Speaker: That's badass.

Speaker: I got to tell you, I'm excited for you because I know this has been a labor of love for you and it's been a little over two months since you filmed.

Speaker: So this is right on par with any other sort of, for those that don't know, the post phase of any movie is incredibly long.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So two months is super quick.

Speaker: You know, I mean, it's actually a little less than two months or it's exactly two months, I guess, from right now.

Speaker: So, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, but I mean, for a short.

Speaker: Yeah, I guess.

Speaker: Although a short with a lot of very pro crew and everything, you know, so it's not like a short that you and your family went out and did when you were at Thunder Thighs Mountain.

Speaker: What's the name of that, your water park?

Speaker: Oh, Thunder Thighs Mountain.

Speaker: No, no, no.

Speaker: That's further around Sealy.

Speaker: This is Typhoon, Texas.

Speaker: Yes, very similar.

Speaker: Thunder Thighs Mountain.

Speaker: where Kelly, you know, took her snot fountain and was able to expose God knows how many people, but, you know, right in time for them to go back to school.

Speaker: So it was nice.

Speaker: Perfect.

Speaker: Perfect.

Speaker: Ah, Mrs. Proust, your lifetime membership at Thunder Thighs Mountain is valid again today.

Speaker: So...

Speaker: I'm going to just stop right there and say I am no way going to endorse anything that says Thunder Thighs of My Wife together.

Speaker: I may say dumb things a lot.

Speaker: I will not self-incriminate there.

Speaker: I'm not suggesting she has thunder.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: I mean, that you even... No, no, no.

Speaker: With the name alone, it doesn't matter if you're even in... That in the same context, I've been married long enough to know that that is... That is some incriminating stuff, my friend.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: That's... Well, I got some news for you.

Speaker: Speaking of that, I got a text from my mom.

Speaker: So I woke up this morning and my mom texted that she wasn't able to see my brother's kids and they...

Speaker: I don't know, been back roughly a month from Turks and Caicos.

Speaker: And she said that she probably wouldn't be able to see them for a while because my brother and his wife are entering therapy.

Speaker: Whoa, what?

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And I'm like, my thought is like, I think they got married in 2013.

Speaker: I'm like, you should have done this the day you got married.

Speaker: What are you doing waiting this long?

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: And they said, Jedi tradition does not allow that during the first decade.

Speaker: I'm gonna say that I don't 100% right on that.

Speaker: And I'm just gonna add to that by saying that I don't think my brother has a sense of humor about this because I reached out this morning trying to be as nice as possible, no condescension.

Speaker: And I've heard nothing back and it's been well over eight hours.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: Now are they going to like a typical earth therapist or like a Jedi therapist?

Speaker: I think they're going to a Druid therapist.

Speaker: Oh, nice.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: So they're keeping it well within the family of the Jedi circle.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I guess there's some Wiccans in their circles as well, right?

Speaker: As you've been saying.

Speaker: To be honest with you, there's a long lineage on their side of Wiccans.

Speaker: And if you've seen their family photo, you understand why.

Speaker: There's definitely, there's no mistaking it.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: They are definitely a Wiccan family.

Speaker: That's nice.

Speaker: That's nice.

Speaker: It's nice that they're keeping the traditions alive and that, yeah, that their heritage and culture is surviving well into the 21st century.

Speaker: Well, I'm glad you're so supportive because I keep giving them shit for it and they're just not happy with my giving it so much crap.

Speaker: So I think Steve – Well, I mean, for one thing, we welcome and we appreciate all of our Wiccan listeners.

Speaker: Absolutely.

Speaker: But as with any religion or any belief, you should be able to laugh at it in some regard.

Speaker: Absolutely.

Speaker: You got to be objective and you got to have a sense of humor.

Speaker: 100%.

Speaker: I mean, that's what you said when you saw The Passion of the Christ, right?

Speaker: Originally, I thought it was a comedy.

Speaker: I'm like, first of all, I have to read crap.

Speaker: It's an Aramaic.

Speaker: I don't want to have to read this crap.

Speaker: It better be funny.

Speaker: And I got to tell you, it was not funny.

Speaker: You forgot how to speak Aramaic by the time you saw that movie.

Speaker: let me put it this way.

Speaker: It was in one ear out the other.

Speaker: I didn't really, not only did I not remember it, I chose not to even consider it as an official language anymore.

Speaker: Well, here's something that's interesting.

Speaker: The new, the new film Prey, you know, the, uh,

Speaker: I guess the Predator prequel that a bunch of people are raving about, was originally supposed to be shot in Comanche.

Speaker: There's an entire Comanche dub, which people love, but it was originally supposed to be shot that way.

Speaker: But some people thought that might not be a hugely commercial decision.

Speaker: I got to tell you, I think it's pretty badass.

Speaker: First of all, I saw the preview for it, and I'm going to watch it this weekend on Hulu.

Speaker: No plug, but I'm just saying that's where it is.

Speaker: In Comanche?

Speaker: Not in Comanche.

Speaker: Maybe there's the Comanche version in there.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: But I'm going to say I give massive credit to that.

Speaker: But you can choose that.

Speaker: You can choose that.

Speaker: So if you really want to, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: If you're living up to the values of this show and the Proust family, I would, I mean, you're obviously free to make your own decisions, but I would watch it.

Speaker: You know, if you're going to watch it more than once, watch the Comanche first.

Speaker: If you're only going to watch it once, watch the Comanche only.

Speaker: Well, which version did you watch it in?

Speaker: I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker: That sounds about right.

Speaker: Okay, fair enough.

Speaker: I will let you in the audience know when we record next which version I watched.

Speaker: And I do think it's pretty badass now, though, that they're willing to take risks like that, because even a few years ago, that would have been a fool's errand.

Speaker: And I love that they're willing to do that now.

Speaker: So hats off to the studio, to the team out there that will support that.

Speaker: That's badass.

Speaker: And you know, Cousin Pete, of course, was in the last episode of The Predator, or the last movie, in the whole epilogue to it.

Speaker: So he was, you know, I guess they expect some kind of sequel from that, or that was the idea.

Speaker: And he's supposed to have a major role in the next piece.

Speaker: Not to give any spoilers.

Speaker: But I thought he was the Predator, wasn't he?

Speaker: Well, he is a Predator, is that what you're saying?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I thought he was the predator in The Predator.

Speaker: No, he was the scientist making discoveries at the end.

Speaker: Did you see the last The Predator?

Speaker: I've seen it, I liked it.

Speaker: Yeah, and you remember Pete in the whole, you know, when the spaceship goes down and then he's making discoveries, after discoveries.

Speaker: He's a brilliant scientist.

Speaker: But I gotta say, knowing Pete, him as a scientist is definitely good acting because he is far from that.

Speaker: Well, don't forget your girl Denise Richards famously played the scientist January Jones in the James Bond film.

Speaker: You thought that was very credible.

Speaker: Now, Eric, I don't remember saying that, but based on my history, I could easily see me saying that, yes.

Speaker: Oh, she looks like a scientist.

Speaker: She looked like a scientist, but knowing her past, anything with Charlie Sheen is hard to believe that it, you know, was a studious.

Speaker: Is that wrong to say?

Speaker: I mean, that is introducing some prejudice into it, but okay.

Speaker: You know your girl, Natalie Portman?

Speaker: I mean, when she was at Harvard, one of her profs said she was the smartest student she's ever had.

Speaker: Is this before or after he slept with her?

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: Well, for one thing, it was a female professor, and two, wow.

Speaker: They can still sleep together.

Speaker: Yeah, but you said he.

Speaker: That just makes it hotter.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: And I respect that.

Speaker: Well, I had no idea.

Speaker: I have not heard that.

Speaker: I've heard very good things about Natalie Portman.

Speaker: I think she is – I don't know.

Speaker: I'd love to meet her one of these days.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: They're extraordinarily talented, one of our best actresses, and very, very bright, even compared to, say, you.

Speaker: Speaking of which –

Speaker: You know, I was on a Zoom call with my writers group last night and I mentioned to them at the end of the thing I might have to miss next week.

Speaker: And I probably didn't even have to say why, but of course I did.

Speaker: I go, because I'm going to be on an episode of Masterminds.

Speaker: And then one of the other women in the group goes, oh, so am I.

Speaker: So, Eric, first of all, you are so great at self-promotion.

Speaker: I've always thought that was great about you, and I mean that sincerely, not sarcastically.

Speaker: What are you talking about?

Speaker: I couldn't see you not self-promoting it.

Speaker: Guys, I'm going to be gone next week.

Speaker: You say that, and yet you know that I'm like a paragon of humility.

Speaker: Just like in a multiverse world or what?

Speaker: I mean, if I have one fault, it's I don't pump myself up enough.

Speaker: Huh.

Speaker: I'm not sure I agree with that statement in any way, shape, or form.

Speaker: I think we're saying the same thing.

Speaker: Simpatico, my friend.

Speaker: Simpatico.

Speaker: Right?

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: So, yeah.

Speaker: So, she's on the show as well.

Speaker: Fortunately, we're not on the same day because it would be weird competing against someone you know.

Speaker: That's kind of exciting, though.

Speaker: Now, has she been on it before or no?

Speaker: Is this both of your first times?

Speaker: I think it's both of our first times.

Speaker: I mean, it's funny.

Speaker: She said, oh, well, I don't think you can even be on an episode where you know someone because they make you fill in all of these –

Speaker: questionnaires and you know, you can't know anybody, but someone else in the group says, well, how would you know you're going to be on an episode with someone you know?

Speaker: And she's like, that's a good point.

Speaker: And I'm like, yeah, it doesn't say, they probably don't want you to be in an episode where one of the other contestants is someone you know, but the thing that you're filling, the affidavit you're filling in says you don't know, like the masterminds themselves personally, like Ken Jennings, one of your heroes.

Speaker: And yeah,

Speaker: And the other masterminds, you don't know them personally.

Speaker: Because that could bias the whole thing.

Speaker: I mean, you could end up head-to-head with, say, Ken in the last segment for $10,000.

Speaker: And if you're pals, you could have made some agreement beforehand.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Exactly.

Speaker: Come on, Ken.

Speaker: Let me have it, and I'll throw you $25 at the end of the $10,000.

Speaker: Maybe 30.

Speaker: Well, he doesn't need it.

Speaker: He's the new Jeopardy!

Speaker: co-host.

Speaker: He doesn't need that.

Speaker: Just for shits and giggles, just to give him what you feel his true worth is, I think that's only fair, don't you?

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: Fair, fair.

Speaker: We love you, Ken, and no bribery going to be going on when I'm involved.

Speaker: Just to let you know.

Speaker: Dude, so how long is a typical, I know you've never done this before, but how long is it like a typical game show where it's gonna film pretty much right on schedule and on time, or you stay- I assume, yeah, because it's like, you know, I mean, call time, unfortunately, in the Valley, it's like 6.15.

Speaker: You know, it's gonna be hours of prep and everything, and then I assume they gang shoot them, you know, with several episodes in a row.

Speaker: Hang on, you have a call time at 6.15 in the morning?

Speaker: I know, right?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Oh, well, you know, I mean, hair and makeup, you know, I mean, it's just like...

Speaker: You know, you know what shoots are like.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: I'm just saying that's horrible.

Speaker: I would have thought for sure because it doesn't really matter when you shoot that show.

Speaker: You could do it at like 10 a.m.

Speaker: So your call is 8, you know, that kind of thing.

Speaker: I think 6.15 is cruel, especially because that is so far.

Speaker: I do think it's pretty early.

Speaker: But I mean, that's like when we shot Chain Reaction, you know, other Eric and Travis and I.

Speaker: Call time was some crazy early time.

Speaker: Maybe not quite that early, but really far, like up near Northridge.

Speaker: And...

Speaker: And then we were the last segment shot, so we didn't even shoot till like 5 p.m.

Speaker: or so.

Speaker: Plus, it was just as one of the first things that was being shot after they relaxed COVID rules a little bit.

Speaker: So you can't be closer than six.

Speaker: They had long lunch tables, and we had to sit at opposite ends from each other, two of us, and the third person had to be at a separate table.

Speaker: You had to have your plastic shield down the whole time and your mask on, except when you're eating.

Speaker: And even in between bites, you're supposed to lift your mask back up.

Speaker: So speaking of that, th is is what I was going to ask you about your other Eric.

Speaker: So now that the CDC has basically given up on...

Speaker: You don't have to quarantine anymore.

Speaker: Like, what's the role of a COVID compliance officer?

Speaker: Is it still there?

Speaker: Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: I mean, you look at movies, there's like, you know, there's, I mean, I know these were all shot before, but like at the closing credits, I mean, big movies have like 20, 30 people in the COVID compliance team.

Speaker: It's crazy.

Speaker: It's not so much additional cost.

Speaker: But yeah, this is going to go on for a while because it doesn't matter what the CDC or the government says.

Speaker: It's the SAG agreement with the producers.

Speaker: I forgot about that.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So they've got to do it till X amount of time.

Speaker: So Eric and his boss, Joe, have much more COVID exploitation to be able to take advantage of.

Speaker: Honestly, I wish we still did that because I mean, after what Kelly's last bout was, it was horrible.

Speaker: I mean, this thing is not, again, it's still not something to joke or like even to push in the background.

Speaker: I don't know why the CDC, again, I think it's just a joke of an organization to begin with.

Speaker: Well, I don't think it's just the CDC.

Speaker: I think it's all the governmental agents.

Speaker: You know what I mean?

Speaker: It was like everyone's like, you know, why did California and Michigan and all of these states suddenly lift mask requirements several months ago?

Speaker: And it happens they're all Democratic-run after all being – criticizing all the Republicans and everything.

Speaker: And, yeah, most people thought, well, it's because there's midterms this year and they want people to be in the background and not to be thinking about those things.

Speaker: And in the case of someone like Gavin.

Speaker: It's just so upsetting.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Who is like at the beginning of the – who famously or infamously –

Speaker: You know, everyone mask up, everyone care about your fellow Californians, everyone, you know, don't travel.

Speaker: You know, the next thing he's caught eating at French Laundry.

Speaker: You know, one of the best restaurants.

Speaker: Yeah, well, he's lucky, you know, that he got through all of that.

Speaker: So.

Speaker: So, but agreed.

Speaker: Here the crazy thing was, as we're talking about bringing back masking mandates potentially, particularly indoors, they're like, yeah, they might start in a few weeks.

Speaker: And to your point, I'm like, well, if they're gonna start in a few weeks, why not just start it now?

Speaker: I mean, are we waiting for it to get worse if that's what we believe?

Speaker: Or we don't believe it and let's stop doing it.

Speaker: But the worst is exactly the way we've been doing it.

Speaker: Start, stop, start, stop.

Speaker: I mean, it just drives people crazy.

Speaker: It's terrible for the economy.

Speaker: It's terrible for small businesses in particular, big businesses too, but I mean,

Speaker: You think of all the restaurants that, you know, so we lost so many restaurants during this thing, but, you know, they would have been in trouble anyway, but making them open up, staff up, you know, buy all new inventory and then closing them down again and then opening them up again.

Speaker: That's the worst possible way to do it.

Speaker: Oh, 100%.

Speaker: I mean, you know, you met Blake the other day and you guys know what we have with history.

Speaker: Exactly.

Speaker: And we do have chemistry, but we also have history.

Speaker: That's yeah.

Speaker: I mean, we didn't really talk that much on the air.

Speaker: But well, OK, I got to tell you this.

Speaker: So when when we so when when Blake C. Holloway came, you know, arrived back in my life via you as as the big surprise of the morning.

Speaker: And then so Justy introduces me to a friend of mine who's now his number two.

Speaker: And I assumed she was going to be the guest on the show that day.

Speaker: And then suddenly, just as the show's starting, Justy keeps her on video but turns off her mic.

Speaker: And then I think he's going to bring her back midway through as like, oh, we've got a special guest.

Speaker: He never brings her back.

Speaker: She's just trapped there having to endure us talking.

Speaker: And every once in a while I would go, like, if people look back to that episode, it's the classic episode where I'm talking about my boy John and his girlfriend.

Speaker: Oh, I love that episode.

Speaker: One of my favorites.

Speaker: He's now defunct.

Speaker: Yes, ex.

Speaker: Yes, and her missing her flight despite being 10 hours early to the airport.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he just he never brings her back.

Speaker: So I don't know if you noticed several times during it, like I almost address her and then I catch myself because the audience doesn't know she's there and she's not really been introduced.

Speaker: Absolutely.

Speaker: And so there's these weird pauses throughout the whole thing and where I or where I almost I don't really finish sentences.

Speaker: But that's normal.

Speaker: So I couldn't tell that difference because that felt like a normal recording to me.

Speaker: What I did notice was, though, I did notice a few glances over and I was like, Eric, focus, focus.

Speaker: No, she was here just to watch the show for a sec, see how the sausages made.

Speaker: It was a lot of fun.

Speaker: But back to what I was going to say real quick, her boyfriend is a chef.

Speaker: and hearing some of their stories about kind of what they've been through.

Speaker: Like a vegan chef?

Speaker: I don't think, no, he's definitely not a vegan chef.

Speaker: He is a, he's an all around likes the meat kind of chef.

Speaker: And we all like the meat.

Speaker: That poor guy.

Speaker: I mean, the stories he's got, the few things she's told me, just some of these restaurants that just, you know, it's horrible.

Speaker: So I totally agree with you.

Speaker: I think the way we're handling this is poor and that we're not taking it seriously again is lame.

Speaker: Well, on top of that, no one likes getting sick.

Speaker: Like, yeah.

Speaker: No one likes it.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Except for Lexi.

Speaker: But maybe that's why they need the therapy.

Speaker: Absolutely.

Speaker: So what were you going to say, my friend?

Speaker: I was just going to say, I mean, okay, so you got the COVID and then you got your monkeypox, particularly for men who have sex with men.

Speaker: And is that what we say now, by the way?

Speaker: I guess we've talked about that the other day.

Speaker: So that's the official way to say things?

Speaker: I believe that is the correct accepted way.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: What about men who have sex with some non-binary who were born male?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I'm trying to use your terminology correctly.

Speaker: Well, I appreciate that.

Speaker: Thank you.

Speaker: I would say anything from a transvestite to homosexual to whatever, I think that whole gamut is covered based on the latest news that I've heard.

Speaker: So men, okay.

Speaker: And this especially covers people who are on the down low.

Speaker: So the people who have sex with men who have sex with men but claim that they're not gay.

Speaker: Which, if I remember right, that was Stevie B when I first met him, correct?

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: But that's the definition of the down low, right?

Speaker: I've never heard that definition, but I love it.

Speaker: That's what I mean.

Speaker: Like, if you say you're on the down low, you're saying you're having sex with men, but you're, for example, you're not telling your girlfriend or wife.

Speaker: And if people call you out on it, you're saying, no, I'm not gay.

Speaker: I'm on the down low.

Speaker: That's what it means.

Speaker: So it was interesting that a whole generation of people were sort of outing themselves saying something's on the down low, but possibly not understanding the implications of what they were saying.

Speaker: I said it all the time, and I kept saying it's on the DL.

Speaker: The DL.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: So Kel should be aware of that and be testing for monkeypox when possible.

Speaker: regularly yeah and i mean so um not to mention polio so suddenly you know we thought we'd eradicated that and then then an anti-vaxxer you know conclaves in in new in new york suddenly uh suddenly it's back and i guess one epidemiologist was saying that uh if one person has polio probably hundreds or thousands do it's just that's the one that's come to light so far so that's not ideal oh that's terrifying and on that wondrous note i gotta say we gotta wrap up today arc

Speaker: Let's make it.

Speaker: Let's trim the sausage.

Speaker: Use your snippers.

Speaker: My terminology?

Speaker: What I was going to say, I think that on the DL, we're going to say goodbye.

Speaker: All right, well, let's keep it on the DL.

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