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Demon Slayers V. Devil Slayers
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Reviewing two popular anime series Demon Slayer Kimetsu no Yaiba & Chainsaw Man. Both did well in the box office this year and we anticipate there is more anime to come!
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Anime's Rise to Mainstream Success
00:00:02
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You're listening to the Sleepy Games Podcast.
00:00:31
Speaker
And we are back for another episode of the Sleepy Games Podcast. What is up, Sleepy John? We back. What's going on, buddy? I'm doing well, man. I'm doing well because I'm excited for I love when we talk anime. Even though like I feel like even even more even more than ever, it's becoming it's the most mainstream it's ever been.
00:00:52
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feel like this year. I mean, yeah, the amount that's going into the movie theaters is indicative of that for sure.
First Theater Experience with Anime
00:00:59
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Yes. And the amount of money it is producing in the box office.
00:01:03
Speaker
I believe right it's it's been a record with with a several movies coming out just this year. i remember i first saw um I first saw the Attack on Titan movie back in February in theaters. That was quite the three cut quite the thrill doing that.
00:01:20
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And then with ah with what we're going talking about today, there was two that just came out recently with ah the Demon Slayer Infinity Castle movie and the Chainsaw Man Reze arc movie.
00:01:36
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And first of all, you you had a chance to watch ah the Demon Slayer. That's right. Infinity Castle. The first thing.
00:01:48
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I wanted to say about all of this is that this was my first movie theater anime experience ah with Infinity Castle for the Demon Slayer thing.
Binge-Watching and Cinema Challenges
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um And I gotta say... You watched the entire show before then, right? You watched the entire show? I did. i did, too. Yeah. Yeah. So... And because there was a couple movies that I would have liked to have seen. Well, actually, there's a few anime movies for sure I liked to have seen, but I didn't get really the opportunity for all those.
00:02:19
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But, yeah. It was the first movie. ah I am glad it was that one just for even the the visuals alone. ah i it's it It blew me away the way that they animate stuff like that these days. It's, don't it's pretty unreal, but... So that that part was really cool. ah But yeah, otherwise, i mean, yeah, I binged the entire show prior to that. Like, was actually, I started watching it. I didn't realize it was in theaters.
00:02:51
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ah And then... Then I was like, oh, crap, I got like two seasons to get through, or like... they don't They don't hold movies in the theaters too long, and I saw that it i already got taken out of the IMAX, because I was actually going to drive down to go see it in the IMAX, too, but it had already been removed, and I was like, ah, crap.
00:03:09
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So then me and the kid, we binged it together and then went and saw it. Is there an IMAX close to you? ah There isn't, James. The closest IMAX is a four-and-a-half-hour
Visuals in Anime vs. Mainstream Films
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drive. shit! was willing to make the drive.
00:03:23
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Oh, my God. And that that was honestly the only reason that we'd drive down there, well watch the movie, drive back, that's all we were going to ah Just because I knew that it was going to look like pretty amazing. Because like I knew it was going to be like the Infinity Castle. I was like, this would be a pretty sweet thing to see in IMAX. Even if the movie sucks, I still won't be disappointed from the visual. like and I knew that, right? Yeah.
00:03:49
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So it's amazing. Kind of like Avatar. The movie sucked. But I like the visuals. if Wait, did did did you see both Avatars in theaters?
00:04:01
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ah I did not because I really did not enjoy the first Avatar. like The visuals were breathtaking. like I'm not going to say I did see it in IMAX, 3D, the whole shebang. It was a pretty unreal experience visually. ah The story just did absolutely nothing for me. I also thought it was just the dialogue was just kind of cringy and little choppy, I guess. don't know. I just really didn't get into the story. And I realize it's like one of the biggest movies on the planet or whatever. I think it is the highest-grossing movie ever. I take it you saw the... Right, right. Yeah, I guess it's kind of a big deal, guess. Well, I think for the podcast, CP John, you know the third one's coming out.
00:04:48
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What... Right. I mean, you know what? like I probably would. when When's it coming out? When's it coming out? Next month. i think around Christmas. Next month?
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Yeah. You know
Emotional Impact and Character Arcs
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what? We can make a thing to go see this. i would go see another one just for the visuals. I know the story's going to suck. ah Yes. what what what was So I will say for the... I actually like the second movie better than the first one.
00:05:14
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ah Visually, it was even better. I think storywises story-wise, it was even a little better. Because I kind of like what they did with the villain. with the second movie. good yeah um And i kind of brought it more life with that.
00:05:30
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so But you know before this turns into a... We'll we'll make sure have another episode dedicated to the Avatar when when the movie comes out, but this is just a little taste of what to expect. Right. Yeah.
00:05:42
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That makes sense. Yeah. Yes. so yes back Back to the visuals. That is the Demon Slayer Infinity arc. Yeah, so I know what you mean by the visuals because the... Okay, so the for as far as going on the visuals, the ah the the one thing that that i had to bring up was the the battle between... um Let's see who that was because I'm the worst at character names.
00:06:10
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So it was the one character... ah um yeah Akaza? Akaza? Akaza? Akaza.
00:06:23
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Who's the... Akaza? so so Yeah, Akaza. Yeah, he was the villain from Mugen Train. He's the one that... that Spoiler alert, who who killed your boy.
00:06:39
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um killed Rengoku. Yeah, he killed Mr. Do what I mean. Huh? Yes, Mr. Tasty.
00:06:48
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Mr. Tasty. yes um I'm not going to lie. After watching his arc for like one or two days at supper, i was taking a bite and going, Tasty! That's so funny.
00:07:06
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ah So, with... with ah so So the the movie is is basically what? It's like it' like three major battles ah for the Infinity Castle, I guess, arc.
00:07:22
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um yeah Basically, you know, Infinity Castle, you can't help but think about Infinity War. So this is like Infinity War that turns into Endgame.
00:07:32
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um Since this is what is wrapping up the entire show.
00:07:39
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Right, yeah, this is the first of three parts, I guess. Yes. and And it's fascinating to me as far as... I feel like it's a lot to wrap up, but yeah.
00:07:50
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Yeah, it's fascinating to me as far as the the budget for these movies are like a fraction of the cost of what what most Highwood movies are made for. um Because I think I read that the budget for this was only $20 million. Right.
00:08:11
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That's kind of crazy, right? Yes. Especially for how amazing the it like the animation was. Especially that that last battle. like I was just like, oh my god, this is like
Episodic vs. Cinematic Anime
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the coolest anime battle ever seen in my life. like Just the colors, the action, the the seamless transitions with the music and everything. and just it was It was a feast for the eyes.
00:08:34
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Yeah, I can totally understand why you would want to see it again. but I might not want to see it again as much as ah as much as you as as much as you want to.
00:08:48
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but when when i saw so So I saw it in the English dub. Did you watch in the sub or the dub?
00:08:56
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ah I didn't because I watched the entire show in the dub. i didn't watch the subtitles and I hate doing that. It's too jarring for me because the character voices change.
00:09:08
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Yeah, so I watched it in the dub. ah when When I watched the series, um it was... ah so I only watched the first season, the second season? I forget if there was two seasons and then Mugen Train, or if it one season then Mugen Train, but I watched whatever the seasons were leading up to Mugen Train, and then the season and then the season after Mugen Train, which I believe it was the ah the Entertainment District.
00:09:38
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And then after the entertainment district, it kind of fell off for me. It seemed like it was just more of the same. so I was kind kind of a little bored with it. So I was just like, all right, umm I'm not going to watch this entire series. i Just give me a recap video on YouTube, and then I'll watch the movie.
00:09:53
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And I'm so glad I watched the recap video because that's all I needed. literally showed me what the characters were going through, how we ended up here, and now I'm thrusting in the situation. So I was i was fine. i was ah i was all dandy. I was still understanding the current character motivations.
00:10:08
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I was still feeling sympathy for for the villains, like as they want you to feel. So yeah, i was fine. I was fine with the recap. I didn't need to watch the whole show.
00:10:23
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Yeah, so, and like ah like I was saying before, as like you know I really did enjoy ah the definitely the three main characters. I would say, like I mean, I like Zenitsu. like i mean in i I could see how he might like some people might find him a bit like annoying almost or something, but like I think he kind of brings a bit of realism in that the characters are, you know i imagine, 15 years of age, give or take.
00:10:52
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ah like that would be some pretty traumatic and insane stuff to be seeing at that age so I was like i especially when he sees that one little walking spider head thingy I think that was like in season 2 and he's like what the hell am I even looking at is he's having his meltdown yeah so i I found him like very likable he's my least favorite character yeah and that's what I'm saying is like I could see that with a lot of people ah but i I still found him like I don't know I i kind of get what he was doing, like, and I think that his reactions are, um I think they're accurate, and I, I think definitely, you know, I think the younger generation, I think struggles a lot more with, like, you know, anxiety and stuff like that, and I feel like if they were put in these situations, uh, they
Chainsaw Man's Unique Appeal
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would probably be acting a lot like him and stuff too, so, and I, I think that that's part of the reason why his character's in there, but, uh, otherwise, I'd say my favorite character, I'd have to say is probably Inosuke,
00:11:52
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Uh, I just, I just like what he's all about. He's just coming through. Wait, Inoski is which character? Inoski is the one that wears the boar head. right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.
00:12:08
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He's shirtless all the time. Yes. And then basically every time he just shouts, I'm coming through. Yeah. so so So he's not in much of Infinity Castle. He's not. And I would say that. How do feel about that?
00:12:24
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but Well, and here's the thing is like, I get, i get what they're trying to do. And that was, that was the thing I said to you, like as soon as the moves, I was like, there was not enough Inosuke in that movie for me, but I feel like like he's going to get more of a ah time to to, to shine. And obviously one of the upcoming two sequels. So I think that that will make it, you know, something to look forward to for me, I guess.
00:12:50
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Um, Because like, yeah, like I think for the most part he's more of a, he plays off of the other characters, but I feel like you're just gonna see him in his element and he'll get, you know, more specific to him. And I'm thrilled i'm thrilled to see it, James.
00:13:07
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Probably six years from now or something, I guess. Well, I think their plan is every three years. Okay. I mean, it's ah honestly like, I mean, I guess it's something like, I mean, that's, that's kind of crazy though. Like I won't be able to watch the end of this for six years, but.
00:13:27
Speaker
Hey, you know what they say? you what the kids are saying? Let them cook. Let them cook. um So I will, you know, with Zunitsu, I want want to go back to his character. Okay. So his voice is so annoying to me.
00:13:42
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Right. Like, it takes me out of the show. and And with the show, sometimes i love when it does the badass moments. I love, like, the getting into backstories of the characters and all that. But when it gets to the cutesy stuff and goofy stuff, it kind of takes me out of it. That's just me. That's just me. That's how it is. So when we're in the movie, there's none of that. There's none of that stuff. It is just, it's like, oh, this shit is real.
00:14:05
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Like, if ah if you didn't think, like, the stakes were higher before, you haven't seen nothing yet. um So that's why I i think i just being thrown into this movie was good with just the recap of the other seasons. Because I heard some things with the other, some of the other things with other seasons where like maybe it was like a little little boring, not much happened, just but mostly just set up.
00:14:27
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I think it was like the last movie. I think it was like a training arc or something. yeah the the last season, is it it is a training arc. Yeah. um it And again, i see why people are saying stuff like that, but i feel like, to me, like what they were kind of getting at, and like the way that i kind of saw it, is that like this is basically like it is basically like a Rocky movie back in the day, right? Because it's the long montage.
00:14:52
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Exactly, it's the montage, and that that's just it. like if you're the I think the show is intended... to be binged. like And I think
Future of Anime Films and Industry Impact
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that if you are doing that, you appreciate it more.
00:15:03
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If you're watching it, I think, more longer, i feel like something like the training montage might might feel longer than it is. but wait okay i want to go back to the ah b binging of a TV show. I like how you brought that up.
00:15:18
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And I want to talk about this now, because when we when we talk about Chainsaw Man, want to let you know the difference between these two. Sounds good. So with this movie, it feels like episodes...
00:15:30
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into a movie. You know what I mean? It doesn't feel like a movie. It feels like, okay, here's to episodes here that completes this part the of of the, I guess, of the Infinity Castle.
00:15:43
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And here. Okay, now let's do these episodes. you know Yeah, it's three, I would say it's three episodes because every character, every fight was like one episode, essentially. So yeah, I wouldn't disagree with what you're saying. yeah So when that happens for me, I feel like there's a pacing issue.
00:16:00
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that that happens. um because it' Because what what Demon Slayer... Demon Slayer is notorious for this. is you'll be thrust into a battle and they'll just stop the battle midway or halfway you halfway through and just show backstory.
00:16:16
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And you're just you're just like, okay, I was like invested so much and now I feel like, okay, now I had to sit back and just, how long is this going to be? Right. And um it like it happens, its it takes so long. I'm like, I forgot about the last thing that happened in this battle now because of how long this backstory is.
00:16:33
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that is a That is common in anime, though. it's not It's not just Demon Slayer that does that. Well, this is why I want to bring this up now, because we've been about Chainsaw Man. I want to show the difference between an episodic movie versus what an actual movie feels like.
00:16:47
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Okay. Yeah. um So, but, having said that, they did give one of the best backstories I saw in this TV, in this whole series.
00:17:02
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And it was, cause like I said, in the beginning, it it took me out of it. Cause I'm like oh, so I wanted to see what happened in this battle. And then I'm watching this, this, this backstory of who's, you know, up until now, other than the guy who looks like Michael Jackson, you know, he's, he's like one of the worst villains the show's had because, you know, he killed your boy, first of all.
00:17:22
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That's true. And, you know, you can't help, but want to see like, okay, why did you turn to the demon life? Like what happened to you? And then when you're... what you said You said you watched the sub or the dub, I'm sorry.
00:17:35
Speaker
I watched the dub. watched the dub. Yeah. so So then you you get you get this inch introduction to Chan Tatum. You see Chan Tatum's character. I'm just forgetting.
00:17:47
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if So right right when I heard Janet Tama's voice, I'm like, oh my God. I mean, he was great. I loved his character. and he was He was good in that role. But it's just so funny seeing him in Demon Slayer and hearing him in Demon Slayer.
00:18:00
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um But you talk about a tragic backstory for a villain. where with losing like losing everything you possibly could, especially when it comes to to love. like you You think like you have this love of the life, you're gonna get married, all that, and everything just gets stripped away from you.
00:18:18
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And you're just like, yeah
Enhancing Anime with Music
00:18:20
Speaker
I would turn demon too, you know? you know Fuck everybody else, fuck this world, you know? like but I just got everything taken from me, right when I thought I in the clear.
00:18:32
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and And that's actually, ah I would say that that that's a thing that this show does well in yeah yeah that you empathize with the bad guys. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, and then, and I know because Rengoku was one of your favorites, you you still don't, I feel like you still have a grudge against him. Oh, that's just it. Like, i and the thing is, too, is like, as soon as I saw the character, i was like, he's not going to be alive very long. Like, you could just tell, right? Yeah, yeah. And I was like, because he just like just just, like, and that's because I loved him so much, T-Rate, and I was like, yeah yeah, they're not going to be keeping this guy around.
00:19:12
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And then, yeah, so he was gone. And then, yeah, and I will admit that at the time, yeah, definitely didn't like... I always... It's Azaka, right? Not Akaza? Azaka.
00:19:26
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ah Akaza? it's It's spelled A-K-A-Z-A. Akaza. Yeah, yeah. Akaza. I'm really bad with... the yeah Yeah, yeah. I'm like Inosuke in that way.
00:19:38
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if like he's He can't get Tanjiro's name. fucking He's like Kampachiro. One thing I want to say about Zenosuke real quick. So having not watched this ah the entire show leading up to this movie, and just getting recap, I still, in the recap, I didn't understand of like, okay, why is Initsu the most
Hollywood's Response to Anime's Success
00:20:00
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badass character now? Why does he have the coolest voice now?
00:20:04
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Because it is still the same voice actor portraying this character. Right. But now he's... said because like I'm actually watching two other animes. like I watched two other animes this year.
00:20:16
Speaker
Solo Leveling and Vinland Saga. By the way, you would you would love Vinland Saga. the better Already. But that's for another day. And like it's such like a pronounced, deep, like ah commanding voice.
00:20:29
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like that I heard those animes. And now he has it. And I'm like, but even though like I'm used to his other voice and now he has this and then like, cause I was watching my girlfriend, she was kind of catching me up and like, okay, that's because this happened. That's why he he changed and everything. I'm like, oh, but that's yeah. you're watching his arc throughout the show, right? Like, yeah. And he has, i would say he has the most.
00:20:52
Speaker
I guess, tremendous arc in terms of like yeah like in terms of change, or right? so So, I love that. so It's a complete 180 for me with his character. Now, like but he he's ah to me, is he's the most badass. like At least from watching this movie, he's the most badass character that I've seen. Because from the voice to the way he he tricked the guy who fought, I guess, because he had like a secret... um A secret ah sword... ah Technique or something. Technique, yes. Yeah.
00:21:25
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I thought that very well done. I love that so much. um But yeah, so overall, I really enjoyed it, especially but being thrusted in, not knowing a few things or just getting a recap and and just seeing some of the best animation
Future Anime Adaptations
00:21:40
Speaker
I've ever seen in my life.
00:21:41
Speaker
Watching on the big screen, I'm so glad anime is getting mainstream now for this to happen because it made over $500 million in the box office worldwide. That's wild. Off a $20 million budget, which is so crazy. love to see it. So you know more is coming then for sure. Yes. Well, so what I think too is I think because it's the success of this film, a lot more animes are going to be doing this because, oh, like we're not just popular in Japan. You know, all the Americans or North Americans are watching this like they're taking notice. They want to see this on the big screen, not just watching it on Crunchyroll on the TV.
00:22:15
Speaker
Well, it's a, I mean, ah like this is the thing about anime, and I won't necessarily say that, like, I'm still kind of choosy about my anime. It's like, there's a lot of stuff that I personally don't really get into that much.
00:22:26
Speaker
But, like, some of that stuff, like, Like these guys are, they're they're right like the writer a lot of times where it'd be like a couple writers or something like, but like they spend years like crafting these stories. They're not just like, they're not shat out in like three months or anything like that or six months or whatever. Or or a lot of times it's not like they start the story not knowing how they're gonna end it. Like that a lot of them, they know how they're gonna end it and it shows when you're watching the show.
00:22:53
Speaker
Yeah. I'm right there with you, yeah. But I feel like at least for the animes are coming out in theaters, I feel like they're more of the, I guess, the the more popular ones that most people have have seen as far as the anime community goes. Right, yeah.
00:23:09
Speaker
Because, you know, it's a good segue to the next one. It is indeed. Yes, it is. it is up so so so So the film that came out a month after
Episode Wrap-Up and Future Teasers
00:23:20
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Slayer came in theaters is a Chainsaw Man, the Rezaiar.
00:23:24
Speaker
But... You have not seen Chainsaw Man at all prior to, what, what a week or two ago? ah Yeah, it would have been last weekend. Last week. Yeah, watched the first five episodes of Chainsaw Man.
00:23:39
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And then as far as, like, ah your your thoughts and everything, and you we we we would we would love to hear about it from your initial reaction. So, okay. like So I guess I'll start off by saying is like I try to do...
00:23:54
Speaker
Because I was telling you this a little bit before the show. is like I try to do five episodes if I'm going to give like a show a chance. Yes. Because it's about it's about the length of an average movie or something like that, right? And it's it's enough to kind of get into it.
00:24:05
Speaker
And then you're like, all right, like what's this got to offer? So I'm curious because obviously you've seen pretty much the show its entirety up to the movie too. Yes. ah If you can...
00:24:18
Speaker
Like, I'll listen to what you have to say and because I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not I want to continue watching this show. um And, like, it I guess in some ways like it has potential for me, but, like, one thing, and I've talked about this before, and it's not that I necessarily don't... It's not that I always have a problem with, like, the sexy jutsu thing or, like, you know, the the gratuitous tits and ass or something like that that some anime is is known for.
00:24:46
Speaker
And I'm not necessarily saying i have an issue with it. It's just sometimes it takes me out of it. Like you were kind of talking about, ah you know, character voices or whatever taking you out of ah of a scene too.
00:24:57
Speaker
And that whole thing about like, the whole thing about him like just wanting to grab some titties. Like I just, I understand it. Like it is the thing. is like, I understand he's a horny teenager. And like, even if they just turned around and just like, yeah, you really want to smash that girl or something like that. I'd have been like, okay, fine. was like, why are you so fascinated with grabbing a titty?
00:25:18
Speaker
I mean, it's funny, but at the same time, it's like it just takes me out of it. i'm just like and i And I understand that they even somewhat made it a plot point because the other characters are also calling him out on grabbing the titty. Yeah.
00:25:34
Speaker
it's it's more It's a little self-aware. Right, right. So it's like, you know, even the other characters are just like, they're like, I don't understand. Like, you're doing all of this because you want to grab a titty. you Like, they're like, how could you possibly be taking this seriously? then the guy just like, I'm serious as fuck about grabbing my titties.
00:25:52
Speaker
and And that's what I mean. It's like, it's funny. I'm not going to say it isn't. Yeah. But it's like, I don't know. Just like.
00:26:02
Speaker
so So I'm trying to think, so where does epis episode five leave you? because Because I don't want to say anything because they that theres there's there's an episode there's episode beyond five where I feel like there's a a huge shift.
00:26:17
Speaker
Okay. with the show So they the end of episode five, they're basically just introducing the gun demon. gun's The gun devil. yeah the gun Gun devil. Gun demon. yeah whenever Demon devil. Same thing.
00:26:31
Speaker
Tomato tomato. Demon slayers are demons and this is devils. Oh yeah. okay i mean you You can call it whatever you want. It's another demon show. yeah It is.
00:26:44
Speaker
oh Okay. So okay see you watched the gun. Did you get the episode where where they're all locked in the um the apartment complex? Uh...
00:26:55
Speaker
Okay, I'm trying to walk myself through these. Locked in the apartment complex. Uh, yes. Okay, I think I understand what you're talking about because that's the end of the episode that I watched, I think. So they're still locked in there? yeah theyre that Yeah, they're just... I think they just realized because they went from one staircase to the next and he's like, this isn't right. Then he goes up and then he comes back from the down staircase. Yeah, okay. Some sort of a dimensional loop or something like that or...
00:27:26
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Something like that. So that's that's where it left off. I haven't watched ah beyond that. And again, i won't say like that interests me. like I'm not going to say like the show has things where it's just like, okay, maybe.
00:27:40
Speaker
I just... I don't know. I didn't get into it as much. I didn't get into like the end the the way it was animated and the fight sequences as much either. It just seems more hack and slash.
00:27:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's gory. There are some cool moments, but it's like... I don't know. I'm not appreciating it like I did with Demon Slayer. So I guess, and it's like, you know, just having watched both back to back, i feel like there is a lot of similarities and I don't think it's unfair to compare the two shows in some ways, but...
00:28:09
Speaker
Yeah, I understand what you're coming from because when I first watched it, i remember when but like i was like, oh, you know, it's a good hook. I like how it's a pro protagonist who is he's not just like, you know, he's he's just striving to be the best. He's just like, oh, no, my motivation is just like, you know, like I had this poor ass upbringing. I just want to have this girl right here.
00:28:35
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and eat some amazing food. ah it says, yeah, and they're like, oh, you know what? I understand that motivation. There you go. That's all fair. It's just the fascination with the titty grunt.
00:28:46
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hu Yeah, but but you you were harping so much on that, but you forgot about the food, too. Because he's got to eat. he like you either know He does, yeah. He wants a taste of the good life. Yes, he does, yeah. Because he does have a tragic upbringing. You know, he almost almost gets killed off in the very first episode.
00:29:03
Speaker
Yeah, and he's like he selling his organs for fucking to pay his bills and shit. know, I know, yes. like this That's when you're down in your luck, for sure.
00:29:14
Speaker
And it's like underground Yakuza devil people. It's like, what the hell is going on? What has happened? And then um and then you then you kind of get with... ah Yeah, because where you are, i feel like you don't really know the other characters yet. Maybe you know Aki. He's the one that has like the little... He's got the sword.
00:29:34
Speaker
And he kind of like the little bun on his hair. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And you know Makima. You know the girl with the red hair. Yeah, yeah, that's the one who's... That's his motivation. Yes, that's his girl.
00:29:48
Speaker
But, yeah, I guess you don't know their true... so I guess but both their characters, you guess you you really don't know what they're capable of, I guess. Right.
00:29:59
Speaker
Okay. And then you probably have Power, who's, I guess, right now is just an obnoxious girl.
00:30:06
Speaker
Yeah. what the one The one with the horns. Yeah. Yeah, no, yeah, she's the first titty that he grabbed. Yes, yes. Yeah. And it was a very underwhelming titty grab for him. Oh, because she stuffed it, right?
00:30:24
Speaker
I think it was the stuffing, but that yeah, the padding, and then just the lack of, like, she had, like, zero enthusiasm or interest, right? Like, she was just laying there like a corpse. ah I don't think it, the padding threw him off a bit, and then i think it would have been fine had she seemed even, I think, somewhat interested or something like that, but she wasn't. It was like, so, and then it completely put him off until his ah his his number one seduced him again.
00:30:53
Speaker
Uh-huh. Yeah, so I won't tell you anything about that, but um with... They call it a honeypot, isn't it? So, and just remember, Denji is 16. Remember not supposed to remember.
00:31:11
Speaker
Just dis this always think about the age of these characters. Like, and I get that, and like, ah like And and i do I do remind myself of that. was like, yeah, he's a teenager and stuff like that. it's like I do remember being a teenager. And I'm not going to say that that wasn't on my mind a lot. No, no, no. I'm not talking about that. You're not talking about the titty graph? No, no. I'm talking about how other characters are not teenagers is what I mean.
00:31:33
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Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, So just factor that in with other characters. um That's all I'll say about that. But getting back to what you're saying as far as watching five episodes. So when I first watched this show, i was, I want to similarly, I was probably more intrigued about it than you were.
00:31:53
Speaker
But like i i was like, OK, this is a good anime. But I'm like, you know, I'm just waiting for that moment. I was like, OK, everybody's hyping this up, hyping this up. And I think it was like, think it was seven or eight. i was just like, oh, this is why.
00:32:10
Speaker
This is what separates a good anime to a great one. And now it's like, I get it. You know, like that meme, like, I get it now. Like that whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, you're not there yet. You're not there. good Because it it was like that for me. I was like, oh yeah, this is good. this's good I'm like, oh no, this is... this This sets itself apart from others. I get it. Gotcha.
00:32:34
Speaker
Okay, so you're saying one time about eight episodes, three more episodes and it'll suck me. Well, I mean, I mean i don't remember the number, but but there was a moment in the show you're just like, wait, what?
00:32:46
Speaker
And I'm like, what? And it's like, what is happening? It's a great, like, what the fuck type of moment. And they're like, you won't know it until you see it then you're just like, it oh, okay.
00:32:59
Speaker
Where do we go from here? You know? um that I mean, that makes sense. like and I'm not going to go into what it is. But there is there is one show that that comes to mind where it's like, yeah, like, I...
00:33:12
Speaker
I recommend it to people, but I always tell them, was like, you gotta watch, like, the first arc, like, the first 16, 17 episodes, give it a fair chance. If you don't like it, you won't like it, but I'm, like, I'm telling you, like, that's, and and that is the moment where you're like, wow, ah like this is, like, because the end of the arc is just, it's just, it's beautiful, right? And you're just like, holy crap, like, this was, like, all of it was really good, but, like, that was, and, um,
00:33:39
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Yeah, and so I feel like you're you're talking about something like along those lines or something, right? That's coming? yeah yeah yeah it's Yeah, because it we you're fi five five episodes are already in, so it's sooner than you think.
00:33:51
Speaker
um but But so when you finish, because the season I think is only 12 episodes, I believe. in anger And then that last episode leads into the movie. um literally picks up right where the last episode leaves off, which is nice. So there's only one season.
00:34:07
Speaker
It's only one season. Yeah, only one season. Oh, okay. I wasn't aware of this. I might have just finished it. thought there was a a few seasons. No, no. just so So it's only just the 12 episodes and the movie. That's it. Okay. See, and this is the thing. is like I never like to look into that because sometimes when you're trying to read, how then you get spoilers, right? Yes. So it just I just start a show. i don't like i have no idea what I'm getting involved in most of the time. is Right. Especially, yeah. So I didn't realize it was only one season. You know what? Like,
00:34:36
Speaker
yeah you're You're praising it? Well, i well i think about it this way. be like For the popularity for this one season ahead, can understand why they decide, okay, we should put this in the movie theaters.
00:34:48
Speaker
Right. you know But now if I finish it and I really love it, I'll be sad that I didn't get to see it theaters.
00:34:56
Speaker
lost I lost my chance. I mean, there's still time. Is it still in theaters? I it's still in theaters. I mean, i mean i saw I saw it in theaters. I'm checking right now.
00:35:07
Speaker
I saw it. i I know was in theaters this past because I was at the theaters recently. I saw the Predator movie. Right. How was that? It was great. Like, i think I think the Predator franchise is in good hands.
00:35:22
Speaker
dad That's good to hear. Yeah. Because it it was a unique take with the Predator, which I liked. Ah, I always love the Predator movies, apart from, i think, the last one that I saw. Yeah, nobody liked... I know which one you're talking about. Nobody liked it. I even liked Predators with Adrian Brody. I like that one, too. Yeah, I like that one, too. Like, some people didn't really... I thought it was really well done. He, like, starts off, like,
00:35:49
Speaker
falling you out of a plane. I was just like, that got me jacked. That was a cool intro. Yeah. was like, you got me. You can't help but put yourself in the same place. Man, what would I do? Shit. Yeah. He just wakes up and he's falling out of a plane. like And then he pissed the entire movie about it. But real quick before we wrap up, because obviously, you know, since now, you know, there's like not many episodes of the show to watch. I want to i mean i want to make sure you watch it.
00:36:14
Speaker
I will say like the Reso-Yark, I just want to talk about as far as the film, because I mean i want to bring this up as far as Demon Slayer, but the Reso-Yark feels like a complete movie.
00:36:25
Speaker
Like you introducing new characters and then you're then like you you're kind of, you're introducing them, you're getting arcs for them. And then the end of the movie, it feels complete. Like, it's not like, there's no, like, cliffhanger at the end. It's like, everything that's contained in this film is here in this movie.
00:36:43
Speaker
So, okay, could I go watch? Because I actually just checked. It is still playing. I feel like it won't be playing next week because there's, like, only one show. yeah! yeah So, um because Thursday is when it resets. What I'm going to ask you is, like, is it worth going to see it?
00:37:03
Speaker
ah without seeing the rest of the yeah the episodes, would I be screwing myself? No, is that a it's not. And the thing about that, I think about the ending. am I feel like because of because there's still characters you need to learn about from the show, yeah and it kind of wouldn't make sense if you see the ending without seeing the show.
00:37:22
Speaker
I gotcha. Well, what what I'll do then is ah I'm going to check tomorrow, because I think that that's the reset day, if it's still playing next week. Maybe I'll... ah If it's only one season, i was like, you know what, maybe I'll ah i'll just binge it.
00:37:34
Speaker
Maybe I'll watch the movie if I get into it the rest of the show. So I'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. But but i want to talk about this too. is As far as what what what what' separate what what makes a lot of these anime movies great is the music.
00:37:45
Speaker
There are some songs in in this in this movie that I'm playing like on the regular on my Spotify. Right. it's like like I'm like, these songs are so fucking good. like and like They're like polar opposites of songs. like There's like one... it's like you know do you listen to the intro to to Chainsaw Man?
00:38:05
Speaker
Like the opening cinematic song? I'm trying to think. like it's ah It's not really... It's not jumping out at me, actually. I don't know if I watched it with the intro or if it just played the show.
00:38:16
Speaker
Oh, okay. Were you watching on YouTube? ah Yeah, that's where okay yeah yeah I going. I think in the YouTube, I think that they cut out the intro. So what I'll do is I'll wait, let me get off the- I just forgot about it.
00:38:31
Speaker
Yeah. When we get off the, I'll send you the YouTube link of like just the opening cinematic. Sounds good. Yeah. But, but like, so so in the, in the movie too, they also do like their own opening cinematic with opening song, but there's like, like more like somber low key kind of chill music, like with piano, little ja little jazz to it.
00:38:52
Speaker
And I'm like, oh this is like so relaxing and soothing. I'm like, whoa. And I'm like, it's like, so it's and like they really know how to enhance certain scenes. And that's what, this is why I love anime too. Cause like, you know, you have the manga and everything you can read, but like with the, it with the voice acting, with the music, with the animation, it just brings it to a whole nother level.
00:39:12
Speaker
And it does. and And every anime tends to have its own like background music for certain things. Yeah. if You know what I mean? like Yeah. Certain. Yeah. and And then when we're saying before with Demon Slayer, because we're talking about how great that last battle was visually.
00:39:28
Speaker
like So there is one battle in the Resi arc for Chainsaw Man that like, I mean, it might not be, i mean, I guess as far as like containing it at once, like like the whole battle going on, because it's almost like just, so I will say this.
00:39:44
Speaker
I watched this in 3D. I saw the chains- I wasn't expecting- i wasn't planning to see it in 3D. Like, it just happened to be the available Showtime that that that we were gonna see. It was the English dub.
00:39:57
Speaker
um And seeing an anime in 3D is wild. Like when when the battles happen, you feel like you're there and like there's all those colors coming at you and just everything's like bombastic and everything. I'm like, oh my God.
00:40:13
Speaker
Like it is seriously like a sensory overload, but like in the best way. but Okay. It's it's wild, man. So, I mean, I don't know if if your theater has 3D, but like if they have it, i like I don't usually recommend 3D, but for but but for for this, it was it was worth it.
00:40:31
Speaker
It's a, yeah, so it's like a, that we have 3D, but like I said, we're on the last showing for this movie. Right, so it's probably not. It's the regular, yeah, it's the regular one. like It's all you get. I'm yeah hoping they'll extend it another week.
00:40:44
Speaker
I guess we'll see what happens. Yeah. But but but as far as far as getting back to the box office, too, real quick, I think this movie costs you. I mean, one, it costs less because i so so so this movie is only hour, 40 minutes, which is which is why which is a great movie time, you know? Right. They don't make they don't big hour 40 minutes that much anymore. You know, like, I feel like everyone's trying to be too long with their movies. Yes. I've talked about that at length. Yeah.
00:41:12
Speaker
because I think if infinity castle was like two hours and 40 minutes, maybe. Yeah. it was pretty long. I mean, I still enjoyed it, but, uh, yeah, yeah it it, it is a longer, but it it's basically like watching a season of the show in a way. Right. So, right.
00:41:28
Speaker
But yeah, I, I, I much prefer, you know, just, just a runtime hour 40. I thought that's the ideal runtime for a film. Um, especially if you, if you, if you, if you pack everything in that you need to,
00:41:40
Speaker
um But as far as the budget goes, I think this one... I think it was like $5 million or $10 million make. That's crazy. Yeah. And then I know it didn't do Demon Slower numbers, but think it made over $150 million in the box office.
00:41:59
Speaker
I mean, that that is that is still respectable. Profitability-wise, it's like close to the same, you know? Yeah. So...
00:42:09
Speaker
It's just like, it's just so it's a wonderful time for for anime fans because can and this is just two of the films. we It came up back to back months. So next month there's ah the Jujutsu Kaisen movie coming out.
00:42:26
Speaker
And I'm very curious to see the how that one performs as well. Hmm. Yeah, that well, actually, think it is. I almost feel like in a lot of ways it has a bit more popularity, isn't it?
00:42:38
Speaker
I think with maybe... would say maybe like older generation, I feel like, like it more. Yeah. um Because I know i know love people love the ah ah the ah Gojo character. the The guy with the glasses or the blindfold.
00:42:55
Speaker
People are obsessed with him. um But I know this is like its own arc for the story. So I think it's around... I think would be similar to the runtime of Chainsaw Man.
00:43:07
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And I think this is the first time, well i know I know that there was a prequel to Jujutsu Kaisa. I'm not sure how that did, but I guess this is the first movie as far as a continuation of the seasons that I believe has come out in theaters.
00:43:25
Speaker
um because I think the last season came out i think maybe a little over two years ago. So this is the follow-up to that. So it makes me excited to see. And like I said, makes it makes me excited just seeing how how anime has been now been this popular being in theaters and just dominating the box office and making so much money. So, I mean, and it makes me wonder if if if Hollywood will take note with this as far or learn from this being like, oh, wait, they're making these things for so cheap and making this much money.
00:43:55
Speaker
Maybe we should do the same, you know, maybe we should be cutting our budgets on these films to try and make more money and maybe come up with more creative ideas or better ways to use our money responsibly.
00:44:09
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, ah like, I mean, even with Blue-Eyed Samurai, I guess that's kind of a non-anime anime, I guess, right? so Yeah. But unfortunately, that's what Netflix says. So that kind of worries me as far as, like, will they... um Like if they're wrapping up the show, would would they just do it into a season or would they like make like a movie to end the show, you know, especially if it if it gains the popularity that we know it will.
00:44:36
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Yeah. So, I mean, like, Whatever. I'm sure it'll be good however they decide to do it, I guess. You saw the announcement for that, didn't you? I did not. I think it's releasing in 2026. 2026? Oh, that's alright. So that's the next season? Or what is it? What is that going on? Yeah, it's going to be season two.
00:44:57
Speaker
Nice, nice. But you see, for that one, i think I think that's three years since the first season released.
00:45:07
Speaker
Crazy. Yeah, guess it's been a while, hasn't it? Yeah. Did you see they also they also announced the sequel to K-Pop Demon Hunters? Did you see when that was that's releasing?
00:45:19
Speaker
I mean, i'm not I'm not surprised one bit, but I'm going to say ah this upcoming summer, probably, or what? Dude, I wish animation could be that fast. It's not two, three years? What is it? 2029. Damn. You got to let them cook, man. Let them cook.
00:45:38
Speaker
I guess. It's crazy how long it takes to do this animation. I know, it is wild. Yeah, like, I mean, i don't don't get me wrong, like, some of some of the stuff that you're seeing animated these days, and so it's like, it is quite breathtaking, so I'm not not trying to ah discount it, I guess. it's just It reminds me of, like, old-school animated shows where, like, every cell was done by hand, and there's basically, like, flipbook animation, right? Mm-hmm.
00:46:04
Speaker
that's why they'd reuse some of the background scenes of like the old school Spider-Man and shit. Yeah. Yeah. Like that, that, that's a whole level different different level of respect too. You're just like, that's all drawn by hand, man.
00:46:15
Speaker
Well, mean, yes. So we talk about Spider-Verse with, um, cause that last one came out 2023. Yeah. So and now one's postex it's to come out So yeah. Also four years.
00:46:27
Speaker
right Yeah, and I heard that some of the some of the writers, I think, were those complaints about working conditions. Yeah, because because I think it was like they were writing certain things.
00:46:39
Speaker
yeah yeah we I think it was both. I think it was like the animators and the writing staff because I think certain things were writing, certain things were animated, they'll just throw it out. So it's like, oh shit, what whatever we did was for nothing. Right.
00:46:50
Speaker
Yeah. So I can understand the frustration with that. Yeah, that that'd be that's kind of a kicking teeth. You've been working on something for like two months. They're like, no, we're not going to use a fuck. you we Yeah, we got we got a better idea. ah We're cool, right? We're still cool, right?
00:47:08
Speaker
All right. Well, that's it I think that's all that's all I got for for the the anime ah leading up till now. So I'm go excited.
00:47:19
Speaker
So I'm sure we will get to hear your thoughts. We'll probably start off the next episode hearing your thoughts about the we can talk about the Chainsaw Man movie. And we'll probably go in since we got the holidays coming up. We'll have to have a a special Christmas episode. what do you think?
00:47:34
Speaker
Uh, yeah, and i there's a good chance, there's a very good chance i I'll be able to give a review for The Running Man, because ah that was, like, one of my favorite movies growing up, the original. Really? So, yeah, man, like, I love that, like, I've been watching that, I think the first time I saw that I was probably, like, I was probably, like, seven or eight or something like that, and, like, I loved it.
00:47:57
Speaker
So I've watched it lots, like over the years. Like I've watched it fairly recently. Yes, it's over the top, very cheesy, but it's a very 80s. i So I'm ah excited for this new one. I hear it's actually more faithful to the book too. which I heard that as well.
00:48:17
Speaker
And it's got my boy Glenn Powell. And I knew that that would get you excited for the movie. yeah But, yeah, I'll more than likely be going to see it. Because, like i said, I like the original so much.
00:48:31
Speaker
Yeah, so it's one of the few remakes that I could say that, like, it wasn't even on my radar. I got a... Yeah, just saw an ad for it. I was like, the fuck? i was like, they're they're remaking The Running Man? I was like...
00:48:44
Speaker
Because I feel like it's one that not enough people have seen. or yeah And you should watch it. like a Honestly, and keep in mind that it was in the 80s, way before reality TV came around in the late 90s, early 2000s with like The Survivor, right? So it was pretty crazy how you know ahead of its time it was. know.
00:49:05
Speaker
I mean, it is it is a Stephen King book, book you know? is this Yeah, yeah. Stephen king King can predict the future. ah Evidently he can. Yeah, it was a, yeah, there was anyways, but yeah, it's a, if you haven't seen the original, highly recommend it.
00:49:19
Speaker
Um, but yeah, that's, uh, that's, that's all I got, man. Nice. I'm looking forward to the next episode. Yes. So we'll come back. We'll talk about, uh, those films and, now we'll probably have a new Christmas ah episode coming your way. So stay tuned. But as always, sleepy, John it was a pleasure.
00:49:38
Speaker
Everyone have a good one. We'll see you on the next show. Cheers. Cheers.
00:52:01
Speaker
Bye.