DSA Leader: “Our Goal Is Communism” — AOC & Abdul El-Sayed

Abdul El-Sayed just won Michigan’s Democratic U.S. Senate primary after earning the backing of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) and Bernie Sanders. As the progressive wing gains power, host Joe from Both Sides Politics examines what the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) actually says it wants — using its own words and documents. 

INSIDE THIS EPISODE: 
• DSA National Political Committee member David Jenkins: “Our goal is communism.” 
• What the Democratic Socialists of America’s new 2026 political program actually says. 
• The DSA proposal to abolish the U.S. Senate. 
• The proposal to replace the presidency and Supreme Court with institutions subordinate to Congress. 
• Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders and the growing influence of democratic socialism inside Democratic politics. 
• Abdul El-Sayed’s victory in the Michigan Democratic Senate primary and his connection to prominent progressive leaders. 
• Why an important distinction matters: El-Sayed says he is not a DSA member. 
• Zohran Mamdani, Ilhan Omar, Hasan Piker and the larger progressive movement. 
• Where democratic socialism ends, where communism begins, and what the actual evidence shows. 

Both Sides Politics doesn't do party jerseys. Joe follows the evidence, walks the receipts, and lets the record determine the verdict. 

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