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The History of Shetland Lace, Part 2 - S1E2
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In the first half of this episode we delve into the specific construction methods and stitches used in tradition Shetland Lace knitting. Then, we’ll discuss casting on and knitting the first section of the Zetland shawl!
LinksTo get your copy of the pattern, and knit-a-long head over to Rachel’s pattern store on Ravelry (https://www.ravelry.com/designers/rachel-roden)To get the yarn Rachel recommends, head over to Jimmy Beans Wool (https://www.jimmybeanswool.com/knitting/yarn/BichesetBuches/LePetitLambswool.asp?showLarge=true&specPCVID=91487)ContactRachelRavelryInstagramTwitterFacebookWebsiteHeatherInstagramRavelry
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00:00:01
Speaker
This has been a presentation of the Archaeology Podcast Network.
Introduction to Historical Yarns Podcast
00:00:11
Speaker
Welcome to the Historical Yarns podcast, the show where we talk about knitting from the past and bring it into the present. Welcome to episode two of season one of the Historical Yarns podcast. I'm Rachel Rodin. And I'm Heather
History and Origins of Shetland Knitting
00:00:27
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Boyd. And this is the history of Shetland knitting part two.
00:00:36
Speaker
So in the last episode, we talked about the origins of Shetland knitting and a little bit about the different types of shawls, especially the most well-known examples of the craft. So today, we'll be delving more into the specific construction methods and the stitches used in this particular type of lace.
00:00:54
Speaker
Yeah, and part of the reason why we started with Shetland is because, of course, a new long project is a Shetland shawl or inspired by Shetland stitches. So we really wanted to get to this stuff early on in the season because you're going to be doing some of these things, especially later on. Or perhaps you've already started. Or perhaps you've already started. Maybe you're one of those speedy knitters who knits a shawl in a week, unlike me. And in that case, we hate you. Just kidding. We love you. Well, that sort of might be a little bit of hate. It's like all wrapped up together. There's a little jealousy. Yeah, a little jealousy. There you go.
Nature-Inspired Shetland Stitches
00:01:25
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OK, so the stitches, the Shetland style stitches, they were very inspired by nature. So they all have names like cat's paw, and fern, and leaf, and stuff like that. And then, of course, those shapes that they create look like the things. Like the fern leaf is one of my favorites. And there's also a fur cone one as well. And they look like those things. They're so cool, so pretty. And then there's some other ones that I really, really enjoy too, because they kind of make me laugh a little bit. And they also make me mentally construct a story.
00:01:55
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There's one called Mrs. Montague's Stitch, and I'm like, who's Mrs. Montague? It's just like a diamond stitch, right? A eyelet diamond stitch. And I'm like, I want to know who Mrs. Montague was and how she got ownership of this fairly common lace stitch.
00:02:14
Speaker
Yeah, you see it all the time. So yeah, her name goes down in history. It does. Yeah. And why was her name still stuck to it? I don't know. Just call it the diamond or whatever. Who knows? I don't know. There's a couple other ones that aren't I'm not remembering them right now, but they clearly.
00:02:31
Speaker
Well, it just shows that the history of these stitches, they're very tied to different families and individuals.
Techniques and Tips from Shetland Knitting
00:02:37
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And, you know, they shared a lot in between them. But like, I think that often when you learn to stitch from somebody else, you're like, oh, yeah, that stitch from Mrs. Montague, remember it? Maybe she had a school. Or maybe, who knows? Maybe she was just a saucy lady.
00:02:51
Speaker
I have a new goal in life, Rachel, and it is to have a knitting stitch named after me. You want the Mrs. Boyd stitch? Mrs. Boyd. Mrs. Boyd stitch. We can make one if you want. That would be fun. I love it. I love it so much. I just would love to have met those ladies because they were already so enterprising with their shawls and their cottage industry and supporting their families and everything. And then to also have her name, have us still be talking about it 100, 150 years later, I think that's so cool.
00:03:20
Speaker
anyway yeah so that's those are some of the stitches that's the inspiration it's very nature and nature inspired and things like that the stitches themselves are on a garter stitch foundation and what's interesting about that is
00:03:35
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The pearl stitch was not invented until later on. Pearl, basically, is just the reverse of the knit stitch, of course. And for some reason, nobody thought of doing a pearl stitch until later on, like later in the 1800s, I think. So the reason that you know that Shetland is an older style of knitting is because it's all on a garter stitch foundation, because they just simply didn't purl. They just didn't do it. You're not a knitter. Garter means all knit stitches on both sides of the fabric.
00:04:02
Speaker
Yeah, every stitch is knit. So, and I love garter. That's part of the reason why I chose to do a Shetland shawl because garter is just the squishiest fabric. And I think that the Shetland wool in particular is really perfect for garter stitch because it just is so squishy and airy and lofty. So it's also so variable because depending on what tension you knit at, if you knit it,
00:04:22
Speaker
It's a very tight tension for garter. It'll look like ridges, right? But if you knit it at a very loose tension, it looks different. And that's where a lot of Shetland shawls are knit at a slightly looser tension. So it really opens everything up and makes it look like sort of that cobweb style that you think of when you think of very finely shawls.
00:04:42
Speaker
Yeah, it's interesting how different that texture can be. I don't know. I think that's why it's my favorite stitch, because it is so versatile in that way. And then I was watching this cool video by Galina Camel. Oh, man, I'm going to massacre her last name. Galina Camela.
00:04:58
Speaker
Sure. Sure. Let's go with that. She's Russian, of course, as her name implies. Kamaleva, probably. Kamaleva, right? Kamaleva, sure. Is it on the penultimate syllable when it's Russian? It might be. I don't know. I literally just watched her video, too, and I can't remember how she pronounced it. I'm horrible. I'm supposed to be a languages student. Hasn't been 15 years, y'all. Let's not talk about that.
00:05:18
Speaker
Anyway, she's an expert in lace and stuff, and she was saying that she, this is really interesting to me, that she actually recommends joining these yarns with either a square knot or spit splicing. I've heard of the spit splicing before.
00:05:32
Speaker
I'll explain that into a second, but it's I think this is really the key part is because there's so many yarn overs in least knitting that if you just drop one and then start knitting with the other and then maybe weave in those ends later or Kind of do like a crisscross thing where like one's going one direction one's going the other direction But don't ever tie a knot or spit swipes or anything the yarn overs the way they pull on the fabric can actually like Totally undo that end. Yeah, and you end up with a big hole in your knitting
00:05:56
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So it's really hard to weave in ends around yarn overs.
Lace Knitting vs Knitted Lace
00:06:00
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It is like there's nothing there to weave into Yeah, exactly. Even if you knitted in as you go like it could still undo itself So square knot is is good. Of course I don't personally like knots because what if it ends up like on a yarn over I think it's too visible
00:06:15
Speaker
But spit splicing is super great. It sounds gross, but just keep in mind that you don't have to use your spit. You just need liquid. And you're going to wash it later. Spit does work best. I'm sure that experts disagree on this. You call this true. Maybe they do. Maybe it does. I've done it with water. I've also done it with spit because, like, come on, sometimes you don't want to get up off the couch and get some damn water. I mean, you're going to wash it after. Come on. Yeah, it'll be fine. So anyway, you basically get the two ends of the old yarn and the new yarn to get the two ends wet.
00:06:45
Speaker
with your spit and then you loop them around each other and you kind of fold one. Okay. How am I going to describe this? You, you fold the one end around the other and then you double it back on itself and then do the same with the other end. So they're connected in the middle. Like they're looped around each other.
00:07:05
Speaker
Yeah, like two hooks. And then you just use the friction from your hands to rub them together. And with lace yarn, that's often all you need. If you're using a heavier yarn, you might need to rub it against your leg or something like that to get enough friction. And usually with these natural yarns, the whole piece is going to develop a sort of halo later. So you won't really notice anywhere you've spliced things together. Yeah, you won't see it. I bet even knots pulled tightly enough would be mostly disguised. You know, probably not. But I feel the same way Rachel does, actually, like I don't tie knots in my knitting.
00:07:34
Speaker
I also don't trust myself to burn really. Yeah, knots will come out if they want to. Yeah. I mean, I know how to tie a square knot, but like I still don't trust myself to do it. And you know what? If I do it, I take a little bit of fabric glue and I glue them off.
00:07:51
Speaker
Do you really? Oh, I love that. Don't tell anyone I've ever knitted anything for. I never would, but I love that. Find a tiny lump in your knitting. It's because I care about you and I don't want this stuff to unravel. It's better than a hole, OK? Yeah. All right, a real talk on knots in our yard.
00:08:11
Speaker
Okay, so I wanted to go over lace knitting versus knitted lace really quick to lace knitter lace knitting
00:08:23
Speaker
is where your patterning is on alternate rows, meaning your knit two togethers, your yarn over, stuff like that. And you have a rest row in between on your wrong side where you're just purling all the stitches or knitting all the stitches or whatever the pattern calls for. That's lace knitting. Knitted lace, which I realize is just reversing the order of those two words. But it means so much. Knitted lace is where you have patterning on both sides. So you're going to be doing yarn overs, knit two togethers, whatever on both sides of the word.
00:08:53
Speaker
Also known as non-TV knitting. Not at all safe for TV knitting or having children around or husbands who insist on talking to you while you're trying to knit like whatever the case may be. That's why I never do it. That's why I never do it.
00:09:10
Speaker
So that's something to keep in mind. And it's another way to know if a style of knitting is old or new because knitted lace tends to be older because you'll see both in both in Shetland in particular, you will see both knitted lace and lace knitting. Some of the newer forms won't have knitted.
00:09:30
Speaker
So they made it a little easier over time then? I think it's because they're stockinette-based. So they have pearl rest rows on the backside, like Estonian. When we get to Estonian next, they've got those pearl rest rows. And there's no knitted lace in Estonian. It's the other way. Fantastic. Yeah.
Traditional Shetland Shawl Construction
00:09:52
Speaker
All right, well, moving on to the shapes and construction techniques of Shetlandjaws. You can get many different shapes, of course, but primarily you're going to see square, triangle, rectangular, scarfs, of course, stoles, that sort of thing. It seems in my research that
00:10:14
Speaker
Every family, every community, everybody sort of had their own way of doing things and they did them slightly differently. There doesn't seem to be like one particular shape that defines it. You can see all kinds of different shapes. And a lot of times you'd see the big square ones worn folded in half.
00:10:32
Speaker
Yeah. And they're the kind that you would see used as baby blankets and christening blankets and then... Veils, even. Veils. Yeah. Because they're, you know, the larger ones are a little more versatile, but I guess the triangular ones, which are just like half squares. So big isosceles triangles. Is that right? Or are they scalene? Equilateral, right? Right. I don't know. I don't know. Math.
00:10:54
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Anyway, you can cut this part out. Oh my gosh. Anyway, they are basically just like half a square that can be worn just up around the shoulder. Just drape right over your shoulders. With the same sort of motifs. Now, but the construction to actually start them would be different, right? Because in the squares you'd start in the middle.
00:11:15
Speaker
Yeah, for the triangles, I think they would cast on all the stitches along the long edge and then just decrease down to the points, which is a little different than how triangular shawls are constructed like in modern times. You see a little bit like that center out triangle construction. I didn't really see any of that in, but I think that's because it's hard to make the stitch patterns work in that kind of a construction.
00:11:44
Speaker
Squares and rectangles are definitely the easiest. So I understand why they stuck with those So the construction basically went like this you had a center section Which was usually square or if it's a rectangular stole it might be rectangular And then you have the sort of inner border which would go all the way around and then you'd have the outer border which was like the lacy wavy edging that you see on those shawls a lot and then
00:12:14
Speaker
There's different ways to construct them. The center, it could be garter, just like a plain garter center, or sometimes it had a lacy patterning. I think that the plain garter ones were the haps more, like the everyday shawls that they would wear, whereas the lacy patterning was on the ones that they were selling to all those upper-class ladies.
00:12:36
Speaker
That was the center and then the inner border. I thought this was really interesting because they didn't have circular needles back then, obviously. They were originally knit in like four trapezoidal shaped panels and then they would graft them together at the corners and also on the edges like around the shawl. Like a lot of grafting was happening to get these pieces all connected together. Oh, that's so odd to me. I've only ever knitted on as I went.
00:13:02
Speaker
Yeah, well that's how they would do the final section, the lace edge, that outer border. That one, because they would cast on stitches at the end and then they would knit that on all the way around. So they'd have live stitches going all the way around and they would knit it on as they went and you'd have to do like a mitered corner or whatever when you turn the corner and they had a couple different ways that they would do that kind of thing. But that makes sort of that fancy edge that you can block out to points.
00:13:30
Speaker
Yeah. Um, but of course modern knitters have found ways around grafting and singing because it's like, you know, it's the last thing we want to do ever. So you can pick up stitches and stuff like that. And I think they would pick up stitches sometimes too. It does seem like I read actually conflicting things about that. Some, some of the sources I read said they picked up stitches all the time. Some said that they grafted everything. So I think there's a little bit of conflict there. They actually had their own way.
00:13:57
Speaker
I'm sure, you know? And can you imagine being that person who discovered like, hey, I can knit this on as I go. Can you imagine? Yeah. It must have felt like, like, Archimedes. It's like magical. Like, look at all this time I saved. Yeah.
00:14:16
Speaker
So yeah, that's the basic construction. And you'd get different things like a stole might have like four center panels. So they're not really center, but they're like the whole construction of it will be like panels across and then just have the lacy edging. Maybe you won't go all the way around. Sometimes it did. Yeah, there's just a lot of different ways to construct them. But the basics is the square in the middle or rectangle and then the inner border and then that outer border.
00:14:42
Speaker
So they're mostly right angles at the corners and stuff, geometric shapes, but with right angles. Yep. If it's not a right angle, it's a wrong angle. That's from my husband. Oh my gosh. I think he told me that like the first week we got together, I'm like, okay, I know what I'm getting into here. That's when you knew you were going to marry him. Mine mooned me. Oh no. That's my first glimpse. That's perfect.
00:15:09
Speaker
Um, so the last thing I wanted to talk about just with like sort of how they treated the shawls after they were done with them, what they did to them. We already talked a little bit about the color, how they would bleach them white or dye them using natural dyes if that's what they wanted to do. All that of course happened after the knitting was done, which I think is really interesting because that's totally opposite of how we do it now. Um, and then they also had a pretty, um,
00:15:33
Speaker
You've got a pretty specific blocking procedure to get them into the shape because it's just going to look like a pile of fabric when you get done with it. But they had these blocking frames that they would use and it sounded like they were almost like puzzle pieces that you could stick together in whatever
00:15:54
Speaker
And then they have these pegs set every inch or so all the way around the edge and you would basically pull out each little point on the lace edging onto those pegs and then set it out to dry. And the wooden frame would lift it up off the ground a little bit.
00:16:10
Speaker
Um, because this is all happening outside and that would allow the air to flow under and over it to get it to dry pretty quickly. And then you wouldn't, your precious shawl wouldn't be in the dirt or anything either. So I'm actually really fascinated by these blocking frames. I think they're really cool. And for non knitters, blocking is a way of stretching out and setting your lace to where it stays in that shape that you've worked so hard to knit until the next time you get it wet.
00:16:35
Speaker
So everybody says that lace looks ugly when you first, when you finish it, you know, it's just like a lumpy bunch of holes. It is. Yeah, it really is. You're like, did I really want all these holes in my day? But you got to, you got to get it wet and then pull it out and really like let that shape set before you have the beautiful finished object.
00:16:55
Speaker
So yeah, I think that is it for the construction and stitches and such in Shetland lace knitting.
Zetland Shawl Project Overview
00:17:04
Speaker
So now we're going to take a quick break and then we are going to go on to the next section of knitting for the Shetland knit-along.
00:17:12
Speaker
Welcome back to episode two. Today, we're going to talk about casting on for the Zetlyn shawl and also the first section. So if you haven't grabbed a copy of the shawl yet, it's the Zetlyn shawl, Z-E-T-L-A-N-D. You can get it on Ravelry. And if this is your first time listening, then you might want to go back and listen to the first episode where we give you some information about gauge and yarn choice and stuff like that.
00:17:37
Speaker
All right, so jumping in. So when you cast on for this shawl, I recommend using a crochet circle method or I've heard it called the Emily Ocker cast on as well. It's a really cool cast on. And what it does is it allows you to cast on in the center in a circle without having that giant hole that you would get if you just did a regular cast on. Because you're basically making a slip ring that you cast on your number of stitches and then you tighten the ring to make it as small as you need.
00:18:07
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know much about crochet, so what I didn't know is that this is a pretty typical thing for crocheters to do, I guess, when you're casting on for crochet in the round. But it is so cool how you can just pull it super tight and then it cinches right up in the middle. Now sometimes you might want a big hole in the middle too, because it might suit the pattern, but in this case I decided to make it a closed circle. And we'll link to a video on how to do this in the show notes as well, because I think it is a method that is worth learning if you don't know how to do it.
00:18:36
Speaker
Anyway, so that is the cast on method. And we haven't really talked too much about the construction yet, but basically the construction of this shawl is that you start in the middle with just very few stitches, and then you build out in a square shape from there. And then once you get the square big enough, we're going to work the two wings in different directions. So it's definitely not traditional construction, not traditional Shetland at all.
00:19:02
Speaker
But my inspiration was to try to bring some modern shapes and construction techniques into the pattern while still using the traditional stitch patterns. So that's kind of what I was going for with this design.
00:19:18
Speaker
And if you've never done a sort of center out shawl like this, it's a really good technique to learn and something you'll probably fall in love with because there's a lot of possibilities. Like Rachel is saying, even though you start with a circle, you'll be on a circular needle at first, but you'll be making a square. And she'll tell you exactly how in the pattern instructions. And then you'll pick up on either side of that square.
00:19:42
Speaker
Well, the stitches stay live, so you just cruise right into the wings when you split. And then you'll start knitting back and forth to make the wings and start on a rectangular shape. So there are a lot of possibilities.
00:19:57
Speaker
Yeah, like last year I designed a shawl called Drums of Autumn that is a circle in the middle. It's like a circle medallion which was the same start to it where you start with a very few stitches in the middle and then in that situation you just made a circle instead and I don't know I just think it's so neat to start from the center and move out because you
00:20:18
Speaker
You could do lots of cool things. Like you would use a gradient yarn if you wanted and have a gradient that starts in the center and fades out to the two sides. So starting in the center like that gives you some really interesting options. So I like doing that. Now, if you were using a gradient yarn, how would you do that to get the gradient on both sides of the shawl? Yeah.
00:20:36
Speaker
I think what you would need to do is have an even number of skeins or balls, and then you would want to alternate two of them in the middle so that you are equally using up the yarn from two of the skeins, meaning they will presumably be at the same spot in the gradient when you're ready to split off and do the two sides. And then from there, you can
00:20:57
Speaker
Knit the two sides separately, you know with their separate balls, but that should preserve the gradient so that it's The same on both sides and super convenient if you actually buy a gradient set, too I mean it's more ends to weave in but you can really tailor where your gradients start more with those of Many gradient sets of mini skeins. I didn't think about that. Yeah. Yeah, you could do it that way. You totally could yeah and
00:21:24
Speaker
Yep, and it would be a really nice like centerpiece. Could you see like a almost like a sunset color? You know like starting in the middle and then fading off. I'm really cool Anyway, so yep, that is the cast on method. It is a little bit different than usual but once you learn it you will Definitely see how neat it is to know that and also good for crochet too. So, you know, it's a it's a multi multi useful skill and
00:21:49
Speaker
OK, so then after you are done with your cast on, oh, and the other thing I'll say about this cast on, I did recommend in the materials that you get double pointed needles to do this. This is a personal choice. If you are really great with magic loop or two circular needles, you could absolutely do it that way. I found that the cords got in my way and just made me mad. So I switched over to DPNs. I did my first.
00:22:16
Speaker
I don't know, I increased out until they were just getting too big for the DPNs and then I switched over to a circular. Well you wouldn't want to do a lot of pulling on these center stitches too because you don't want them to look sloppy or stretched out. So the double points I think are the best route to make sure that you don't overly pull on your stitches like you could with sliding a cord through them multiple times like you would with magic rope.
00:22:40
Speaker
And I would even go so far as to say get bamboo or wood double pointed needles because they will hold your stitches a little bit better. They're just stickier. Metal tends to slide
Modern Techniques in the Zetland Shawl
00:22:51
Speaker
right out. So I would even go as far as seeing that. But again, you know, you're in charge of your own knitting. Do what you like to do. But that would be my recommendation.
00:23:00
Speaker
So once you are all cast on and set, you'll move into the first section. And like we have mentioned, you are knitting the whole first section in the round, and you're increasing in quadrants, which are going to make a square. And that is all charted and written out in the pattern, so you can choose which way you prefer to knit. But both options are there.
00:23:24
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that's basically it. It is a lace pattern. So, you know, if you're having trouble keeping track of your repeats, you can definitely throw a stitch marker in between. It's not a traveling lace pattern. So it'll stay in like all the increases and decrease stay in the same spot so that you can use stitch markers without a problem.
00:23:42
Speaker
And do you want to tell them how to use a lifeline? Oh, yeah, lifeline. Yeah, I especially recommend lifeline for newer knitters. But if what you would do with a lifeline is if you have interchangeable needles, if you're using interchangeable needles that have a hole in them, you just thread a piece of either like thin cotton yarn or unwaxed dental floss if you happen to have it or think about picking it up at the grocery store next time you're there.
00:24:09
Speaker
thread that through the hole in your interchangeable needle and then knit a row usually a wrong side or an off pattern row is best to do that because then you're not trying to also do lace stitches at the same time and it'll drag the Lifeline through all of your stitches as you go so when you're done with that row you'll have this like line of dental floss or skinny cotton yarn or or thread even going through your stitches and what that'll do is it'll you can knit
00:24:39
Speaker
You keep going, keep knitting, but that row will be marked with that thread and if you make a mistake further along down the line and you're not sure what you did and you can't fix it, you can pull your needles out and rip it all the way back, but that thread will catch those stitches and stop them from falling and make it really easy to pick it back up and put it on the needles.
00:25:01
Speaker
Basically, what it does is it gives you... It's like a safety net. Yeah, it's like a safety net, and it gives you a point where you know you have the pattern correct, you have no mistakes, and if you need to get back to a spot where you know that you're good, it'll give you the ability to rip back to that point without the stress of picking the stitches back up. Okay. And you can do it if you don't have entertainables. You can do it just by like a needle and thread, too. Just thread it through the stitches. That works as well. Oh, but don't get your stitch markers.
00:25:31
Speaker
With a lifeline, have you ever done that before? Oh, no. Yeah, so if you are... Yeah, they'll be stuck. They'll be stuck, yeah. And then you'll be dragging your lifeline up with your stitch marker. I've definitely done that before. Oh, no. Yeah, well then, if you do accidentally, just leave it there. Yeah. Just get some more stitch markers. Uh-huh, yeah. And then when you pull the lifeline out, you can pull the stitch markers out.
00:25:54
Speaker
Yep, exactly. Or you can also cut the lifeline and retie it outside of the stitch marker too. But yes, speaking from experience, having had done that before. Cool. Yeah, well, I think that's about all I have to say about the cast on and the stitches in the first section.
00:26:16
Speaker
And I just want to add, though, that looking at the shawl, we have it in front of us right now as we're talking. Even though it has this modern shape and this modern cast on and, you know, even we're suggesting modern ways of keeping track of your lost dishes. Indeed we are. We are modern hitters.
00:26:31
Speaker
It still looks so traditional in terms of the stitches Rachel has used and the stitch sampler look that you'll, that we've just talked about in our previous episodes of the history of knitting. And it has this, you know, it's a collection of disparate stitches, but they're all very cohesive when they're brought together. And it's just a wonderful way to practice your different traditional stitches. Oh, thanks, friend.
00:26:55
Speaker
That's what I was going for, is I really wanted it to look traditional, but not necessarily be made traditionally. Because while they were as efficient as they could be, they only had straight needles. They didn't have circular needles. They couldn't do this, starting from the center, knitting in the round stuff, because they just couldn't really do that. So it's good that we have that. And I just wanted to try to work it in so that it was a mix of both the modern and the traditional. So yeah.
00:27:24
Speaker
Well, it looks great. Oh, thanks, friend. All right, well, that is the cast on and section one. Like I said before, if you haven't grabbed the pattern yet, you can get it on Ravelry. Just search Setland, D-E-T-L-A-N-D, and it'll come up in a search for you. And then next week, we're going to be talking about the next section of knitting. So grab your pattern, grab your yarn, cast on, and meet us here next week. Thanks for listening, and happy knitting.
00:27:57
Speaker
Thanks so much for listening. You can find me on Ravelry and on all the socials as Rachel Unraveled. And you can find Heather on Ravelry as HeatherBoyed84. Be sure to like and subscribe the podcast wherever you found it, and we'll see you next time. Happy knitting!
00:28:14
Speaker
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