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The New Era
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Join host, Jason and Phill as they travel down this winding road of Faith in the Unseen. Colossians 1:15-21
We will attempt to weed out the myths and legends to the real facts about end times, UFOs, conspiracies, and other supernatural occurrences, but also we will have a good time as we approach the subjects with a nerdy point of view.
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Transcript
Introduction and Humor
00:00:49
Speaker
Yo, what's up, dude? Not much, not much. At first, I thought you were going to say, what's up, everybody? But then you specifically said, what's up, dude? Oh, he's talking about me. Guys, welcome back to AFK discussions, your home for everything weird and strange and weird and strange at the same time. And including the hosts. That's right.
00:01:13
Speaker
Guys.
FatTech and Tactical Humor
00:01:14
Speaker
Um, so we got a very special show tonight, but first I want to start off by saying check out fat tech.com for all your tactical needs. Um, and did I make up almost, I almost made a new word of factical fat and tactical together. I love it. If it's not a word, it should be should be a word. Yeah. But guys, so speaking of fat tech, as some of you know, I am the designer for all their cool shirts and stuff. So I will be at the goldless conference.
Conference and FatTech Booth
00:01:43
Speaker
Uh, goals. Um, my redneck voice is coming through. So it's hard to say. I thought you said gold. I was like, Oh, we were hawking goals. Goals are like you're scoring a goal. Um, it's a conference in Knoxville, Tennessee. Um, and it's sponsored by the gun owners of America. And I will be working the fat tech booth.
00:02:02
Speaker
So if you're going to this conference, come check it out and it's, it's going to be a huge conference. So there's going to be a ton of, a ton of influencers there and just big names, the community, um, the gun community. So come check it out. Um, but yeah, what's going on with you, Phil?
Serotonin Syndrome Experience
00:02:21
Speaker
Not well, I was going to say not too much, but a lot's been happening with me. Last week was an absolutely crazy week. I'm thankful to be alive, thankful to be here. That's for sure. um I mean, if you want, I could just get right into that. and right yeah You've been you've been having a rough time, man. Yeah, absolutely. So um what ended up happening was on Friday, about like 12 o'clock, I just got like body aches all over my body and I'm like, this isn't good. So I was like, well, and I was like, maybe I'm sick, maybe, so you know, I don't know what's going on with me. So
00:02:55
Speaker
Um, and then I started to feel like worse and worse with other symptoms, chest pains, uh, shaky hands, uh, stomach bug. Um, trying to think of all the different things. There was like a a bunch of different things at once. Uh, I'm sure I'm leaving some things out. I ended up figuring out I had a fever and so I'm like, what is going on? So then for whatever reason, it had to been God.
00:03:17
Speaker
I just thought about my medication and I was like, hmm. I was like, I wonder if there's any like side effects to my medication. So I looked up the side effects to Zoloft and ah it's called serotonin syndrome. So basically that's what I had. I had serotonin syndrome.
00:03:32
Speaker
um which can be fatal can be very dangerous it's just like an overload of serotonin in your system in your brain which causes all these other things um it was definitely scary for sure i mean i had a fever of 102 which is ah dangerous dangerous fever and what's crazy about it is i didn't even take my temperature until i looked up serotonin syndrome and i'm like oh you know let me take my temperature to see if i have a temperature and it was like 101 and i didn't even realize it had its temperature at all which is kind of scary So, um i you know obviously I'm getting worse and worse as and then Friday night comes along and I'm like, I just, I literally heard the Lord say to me, you got to go to the hospital, like several times. And I'm like, and of course, Nicole, this past weekend, she was up in Maine with the girls. And so like I was home by myself.
00:04:22
Speaker
And so I'm like, ah you know, I have no one around to like, you know, chi the help me or check on me. So I was like, all right, I got to go to the hospital. So I went to the hospital, was there like half the night, and um they weren't really that much help, essentially. um So then I just kind of like went home, managed the symptoms slowly, but surely they started to get better. And then by I would say by Tuesday, they were pretty much all gone. Like the fever lasted about two two days. ah But what's really weird and kind of crazy about this whole thing is I started thinking back earlier in the week on that Monday before last Monday.
00:04:57
Speaker
Uh, that actually hit the Monday before that I had like my heart rate was just accelerated. And so that's another thing I forgot. So that's another thing. Like your heart rate gets accelerated. So my resting heart rate was between 90 and like over a hundred. And that's just resting, not even doing anything. Just me sitting there.
00:05:14
Speaker
and i was like that's not good so on this monday
Reflecting on Health and Medication
00:05:16
Speaker
like my heart was just like wouldn't slow down i was i was uh we had a new system for work and so i just assumed it was like work stress and that kind of thing but i mean i even was doing like like some meditation and stuff to try to like breathing exercises and stuff to try to get my heart rate down and it just wouldn't go down and so that was like on a monday so i was probably dealing with this I like all week long and it just got worse and worse and worse as the you know the time went on. And so the only symptom I didn't have of this was hallucinations, which is thank God. But i luckily I caught it quick enough and fast enough. So I ended up stop taking. I stopped the medication on that Friday night and I haven't taken it since. And then like as the you know the days went on, I got better and better and better. I was just thinking about something.
00:06:03
Speaker
Yeah, this this I know I don't know how much you went on to um on here whenever I was out of town. But do you think that could possibly have fed into the things that were happening to you prior?
00:06:18
Speaker
Um, I don't know. I was taking Zoloft for about three weeks. Okay. Was that, but that was after. Yeah, that was, that that was after the initial, um, which we'll call it. So like Zoloft was helping me for sure. at the Especially in the beginning, whether that's, um, what's that called when.
00:06:37
Speaker
ah placebo effects kind of a thing where like I thought it was helping me so it was helping me kind of a deal or if it actually was helping me it's obviously hard to tell but I did feel a like better while I was taking it now since I stopped taking it I haven't had those same like thoughts or those same kind of like anxiety issues I had before. I mean, once in a while, like something will pop up, but like nothing like it was before. I mean, honestly, once I once I was like sick and going through all that stuff, all of that other stuff just kind of went silent.
00:07:07
Speaker
You know what I mean? Cause like once you're in the middle of something like that, all that other stuff is like not important. And so after I came out on the other side of that's the the sickness and all that stuff, um, I felt a lot better as far as you know, that goes and all that stuff. So, um, thankfully I caught it fast enough and realized what was happening and stopped taking the medication obviously, uh, because it could have been dangerous for sure. But I'm happy to be here, happy to be alive. Um, doing good mentally. Um, just, you know, one step.
00:07:38
Speaker
ah one foot in front of the other and all that stuff. So got some things to figure out with exploring with Phil, which I probably am pretty close to making some announcements with that. But I just kind of want to give it the full the full amount of time to really hear from the Lord. But um you're also you've also kind of gone through a transformational experience through this whole thing as well.
Podcast's New Faith Focus
00:07:56
Speaker
Oh, yeah. So I guess it was. We we did a podcast together.
00:08:06
Speaker
Um, after I got back from, from my vacation, um, that was right after everything happened to you. yeah Um, and I didn't even put it out. I just, I, that's right. I didn't, I would just like, I don't know. I just, you're blurry by the way. I know. I'm trying to fix that. I don't know why it's doing that. And I don't, I just didn't, I just, I, I don't know. I can't, I can't put into words. I just was like, I'm, I'm just not doing it.
00:08:36
Speaker
And then I went to church on Sunday, and I may get emotional, guys. um I felt God say, just, you know, it's time to give it up, you know, give up A.F.K. discussions. And um so I talked to Jack, Jack Merkel, if you guys didn't know. um And I was like, man, I don't know. I feel like I'm not supposed to do this anymore.
00:09:05
Speaker
And he's like, you know, can I pray for you? And, you know, um, and ah we, we played in the band that morning. So, um, Jack plays drums. I play bass. Um, so we didn't get a prayer out there, but we prayed afterwards and, um, God has just been moving. And, um, I told Jack, I was like, yeah, you know, I think, I think I'm going to give up a K discussions. I think I'm i'm done. Um, and then.
00:09:36
Speaker
Um, Jack prayed with me and I went home and talked to my wife. I was like, yeah, you know, I think, I think I'm done. I don't think I can do this anymore. I feel like, um, like I'm doing it for all the wrong reasons. Um, like to make myself famous, which wasn't working in the first place because not many people listen to the show. Um, but you know, then I just started praying about it. Um, I reached out to Tony.
00:10:07
Speaker
I've reached out and talked to some other people. And then I felt God say, um know you this was supposed to be about me, not about you. And um so I was like, you know, I tried to do a podcast with my wife called Image of the Invisible.
00:10:30
Speaker
And um it was there' going to be more along the lines of about God, less about the darkness, which is where I felt I was going. um And so after praying and stuff, I i decided that I think God wants us to head in a different direction and um and change the name of the podcast and just kind of rebrand everything. I mean, we're still we'll still talk about creepy stuff. I mean, because, you know, that has a lot of biblical implications, like the end times um UFOs, I mean, Bigfoot, you know, there's implications for that the Nephilim, you know, we'll still have those conversations, but
00:11:13
Speaker
They will be, you know, we're we're going to talk about God. We're going to, you know, pray on air. We're going to do things. We're going to ask, you know, if if someone, you know, if you've you know asked Jesus into your life, we may have altar calls. You know, wo it's going to be different, you know. And um I really feel that the we're living in the end times and it's getting it's it's approaching faster and faster.
End Times and Faith Urgency
00:11:43
Speaker
Um, and we need to get busy because, um, you know, if when Jesus comes back, that's, I mean, um, I think people can still get saved like during the the tribulation, but you know, those people will end up being martyred. Um,
00:12:04
Speaker
You know, there's there's not, you know, it it talks about that revelation. um But, you know, as you get busy, need to, you know, if I save one person to this podcast, that'd be awesome. You know, um so, guys, ah this is the big announcement I was talking about. um I talked to Phil about it. And um so we're switching the the format and we're going to be more about God and Um, less about ourselves. So, um, I was talking to Phil earlier and not. I made a new intro and if anyone's seen it on Instagram and it's, uh, I kind of. Made it a stark contrast to the intro to, um, if he discussions and, um.
00:12:52
Speaker
And I told Phil, this is, I want you to play it. So this is, we're going to get segway into playing the new intro, but it's kind of like, this is like our baptism. This is, we're dying to AFK discussions and we're bringing up a new podcast for God. So um if you want to hit that.
00:14:09
Speaker
All right, guys, welcome to a k discussions. Nope. Image of invisible. Sorry. Old habits die hard. No, that's awesome. We do have one comment here so far.
00:14:21
Speaker
very excited for the new era of the show. So yeah, thanks man. like Definitely. Um, one thing, one thing I did want to mention, I think is super interesting. Um, obviously everyone knows, you know, what's what has been happening with me over the past month and a half or so. And it was, it's kind of weird. Even before Jason even mentioned this, I already had mentioned to him off air. I don't think I'd mentioned this on air yet that I did. I was like, I don't really want to talk about the paranormal anymore. I don't really want to,
00:14:50
Speaker
um you know I just didn't want to talk about the paranormal anymore. I was like i and ah you know i don't i like, I don't know what that means for us. like I don't know if you're interested in talking about other things besides that. And you're like, oh, don't worry about it. We'll we'll you know figure it out. And then fast forward to now.
00:15:05
Speaker
And it's like, you know, you're basically in the same boat and I am. And not only that, what I think is most fascinating and about this whole thing, and it's definitely a God thing, is the Lord has taken me through this journey and brought me to this point. The Lord has taken you on your own journey and brought you to this point. And not only that, Tony as well has been brought yeah you know to a new point in his life where he wants to be preaching and stuff like that.
00:15:29
Speaker
So I think all of this yeah is connected, you know what I mean? I mean, I'm not saying that we're all going to be like working together. I'm just saying that the Lord's moving, the Lord's working in people's hearts. He's working in my heart and I was working in Jason's heart and Tony's.
00:15:46
Speaker
and really pressing on us to you know do more for Him, do more for people, and just serve like Jason said. Instead of being all about me or all about AFK, all about exploring with Phil, um it's no longer going to be about that. It's going to be about the Lord and Jesus, because Jesus is the only reason why I'm here. Yeah, you know definitely.
00:16:13
Speaker
um One thing I want to say that the song that plays on the intro um it's very um It's a very impactful song to me it's it's from an old band I could tell it's the same band. same thing Yeah um But though it's that the words is um Always remember the price that I paid It was all for you you know And then it says, um let your spirit, let your spirit fall down on me. um God, re remember us even when we forget you. I mean, it's just it very powerful, you know?
00:16:54
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. No, it's a great song. It's a great song choice, I think, as well. I'd like to pick that as the um the new intro, I think, is awesome and powerful. um Yeah, so I'm excited to see, um you know, kind of like where we go from here as far as the journey. I think there's a lot of cool, interesting things to talk about as far as it pertains to the Bible and And um just, you know, what's going on in the world and all that kind of stuff. And I think it's going to be an interesting journey for sure. Yeah. It's going to be a little bit different for sure. I understand some people are not going to like it. Yeah. um You know, or of course, if you're used to like paranormal stuff all the time, like we used to talk about, I mean, well like Jason said, we'll probably talk about a little bit about that stuff, but um it's definitely going to change. It's definitely going to be different. Yeah. um And yeah like like Jason said, I think we had to
00:17:44
Speaker
We had to die to ourselves because that's like super important when it comes to the faith of the faith and Lord Jesus Christ and all that stuff because it's not about us individually. It's not about me. It's not about you. It's not about whoever out there. It's about um
Overcoming Fear to Share Faith
00:18:00
Speaker
you know reaching people for the Lord because you're right through the end times are here. yeah um Anyone can turn on the news and and see what's going on in the world in general and just be like, things are crazy.
00:18:11
Speaker
Yeah, you know, and they're only going to get crazier. Um, so I think it's, it's definitely important and it's definitely something that, um, I think the Lord's going to use us and hopefully, like you said, you know, reach somebody out there, um, that otherwise wouldn't be reached. You know, yeah like I've always felt that the paranormal community was, uh, dominated by witchcraft and dominated by uh evil and dominated by just a slew of just negative awful things out there yeah and uh it's just super super high focus on those things and you know part of like what i was trying to do with exploring with film was trying to like show
00:18:53
Speaker
Uh, that there's more out there than that. And I don't think I did a good enough job of showing that, you know, cause I just kind of, you know, if you just watch my channel, it's just like any other paranormal.
00:19:08
Speaker
channel, you know what I mean? there was not i mean yeah I do have a prayer request in the beginning, but there's not much in there about Jesus. you know so um That's definitely something I've been you know thinking about, praying about, yeah the future of explaining with Phil as well, trying to figure out all that. And when I say figure that out, I mean, hear from the Lord because he's the one that's figuring out, not me.
00:19:29
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. And like try to figure out. So I'll have some announcements soon enough about that. But um actually, in the beginning of September, which is probably a couple of weeks from now, I'm going to a men's conference. You might have heard of this before. It's called the marked men's conference. Have you heard that before? Mark? No, I haven't. No. OK, so it's basically like a it's a three day event like you go Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and you just go there with the intention of.
00:19:58
Speaker
seeking out Lord and all that stuff and trying to like for me personally, it's going to be me trying to figure out what the Lord wants me to do. You know, so like that's kind of like why I'm going there. It's just kind of like, it's one of those places where you go, you put your phone away and you just spend the whole weekend, you know,
00:20:17
Speaker
with the Lord and like you know really going for it you know because that's another thing that's like really been on my heart is uh as Christians were called to uh spread the good news um and all that stuff and I feel like we were talking this a little little bit off here um there's just a tremendous amount of fear That goes along especially with nowadays where uh, the way culture is you don't want to like offend people And christians have gone so far out of their way to like not offend people that they're no longer willing to stand up for what the bible believes in and uh or the bible preaches and stuff like that and so I think that's part of it and not only that like something that really hit home to me Is um now some people might not like todwhite, but I like todwhite
00:21:06
Speaker
um He always talks about like what it means to be a real Christian, you know, and that's going out. I mean, this guy, when he's in Walmart, will like literally will go up to random people and be like, you have you heard about Jesus? do Can I talk to you about Jesus? Can I pray for you? he This guy prays for people in Walmart.
00:21:25
Speaker
yeah You know what I mean? Going up to random people and and and he he's like, well, he's like, that's what Jesus would do. Like, why shouldn't I do that? You know, like, why shouldn't I minister to people? And it's just like, it really convicted me because it's like, I think I've shared the gospel twice in the past year with two different people. That's it. I mean, would you like, Oh, that's great. Well, it's like, I think it probably should be a lot more than that is my point. You know what I mean? Like, but that's where the fear comes in. And that's when, you know, the,
00:21:54
Speaker
you just like afraid to you know go out of your comfort zone and like afraid to talk to people or or afraid you're gonna like make them mad or like look foolish or you know all this kind of like because the lord calls us to be not a part of this world of of this world but unfortunately We grew up in this world. We are surrounded by it. Like everything we know, like culture, like everything has been fed to us our entire life. So it's hard to break out of that stuff and to be separate and to be what God calls us to be, which is a strange people, which is a different people, you know, and strange, not bad, but strange, meaning different. When people look at us, they should be like, Oh, they're different because the way they live, you know, the way they talk, the way they act and
00:22:41
Speaker
A lot of the times nowadays you don't see that, you know, like a christian if a Christian passed you on the street, it would look the same as anyone else, you know, they, you know, and I think that's where the one thing is for me personally is like.
00:22:56
Speaker
separating myself from the world and not being of this world and you know really trying to show uh the lord's love and the lord's light and all that kind of stuff and um for me that's like one thing i've been thinking about more and more and more is like how you know how am i how am i gonna die to myself and bust out of this fear of not being liked or this fear of like not willing willing to share the gospel with someone because i'm afraid yeah you know and it's like that's that's that's the hugest thing for me personally yeah that's where i was at you know i was like if if i can't talk too much about god
00:23:33
Speaker
people are not going to like it. They're not going to listen to the show. You know, I mean, who cares what people think, you know? Yeah. I mean, I'm talking me, you know, I mean, I would care what you think Phil. Yeah. But I mean, i people from around the world, I'm not even ever going to meet possibly who cares if they listen or not. It's not about them. It should be about God and about who he is and making, making God famous, not ourselves.
00:23:59
Speaker
Yeah, you know, yeah, absolutely And another thing that I was I was kind of thinking about is uh Todd white speaks about He was he he reformed his life turn his life around and you know was as he says it was an awful person drug addict alcoholic um Suicide like all these, you know awful things and he turned his life around for jesus By the help of teen challenge and the lord and all that stuff, which is an amazing testimony but What he said, one of the things he said, it just like really rocked me because he's like, I went, this is him talking. He's like, I went 34 years of my life without one Christian coming up to me and talking to and telling me about Jesus.
00:24:45
Speaker
You know, and I'm like, 34 years, you know, not but one person came up to him. And so that's what kind of like transformed his life once God got ahold of him. And so that's kind of like how he's the way he is now is because of that. And um I was just like, that's so powerful to get to that point of your life where you're just like, I'm all in. And that's like, that's what I'm trying to do. That's where I'm trying to go. That's why.
00:25:10
Speaker
you know people behind the curtain. I'm trying to pray pray you know at least a half an hour a day. I'm trying to read the word every single day. I'm listening to devotionals and listening to sermons. I'm trying to like really press into the Lord and and you know really go for it because I want to pray for people and have people be healed.
00:25:29
Speaker
Yeah. You know what I mean? Not because of something I can do, but because I have enough faith that the Lord can do that through me. Do you know what I mean? Like I want to lead people to Jesus. I want to heal people. I want to help people. Um, and I can't do that if I'm too afraid or, you know, whatever the case may be, whatever you want to call it. Um, so like, that's kind of like my journey where I'm at right now, trying to like,
00:25:54
Speaker
Um, you know, fight through that. And I think you're kind of in a similar spot, which is so, so God-like that, uh, like this all happened around the same time period. Yeah, definitely. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like a lot of people, not even just us three, I know like a lot of people are kind of like not waking up, but like, yeah kind of being like, you know, um, finding a new vision. The thing is so weird because you brought up Tony, um, all this happened.
00:26:22
Speaker
So Tony went to this conference, um, armed media conference, and that's where, um, kind of this, you know, change happened to him where he he found, you know, um, like a, I guess a new calling on his life to, you know, preach and stuff. Um, but I talked to that weekend, the weekend they got back. That's, I was talking to Jack that morning before Tony even got there. And I was telling him, about you know um I may give up if gay discussions, like I said earlier, and, uh, Tony got there and he was kind of,
00:26:53
Speaker
It was me and Jack and our pastor and Josh from Black Diamond Guns of Gear and Fat Tak. We're all just, no, I think it was is Brandon. Brandon, who's also a part of Fat Tak, and he's on the Off the Range podcast with Josh. I don't think Josh was there, but Tony started telling us about all this stuff, and that's whenever God really convicted me, and I was like, yeah, I gotta give it up. Gotta give AP discussions.
00:27:22
Speaker
And then um I didn't know anything about, um you know, what Tony posted on on Instagram about, you know, his calling to preach and stuff at that time. So Monday I had texted him and Jack and I told him that, you know, I was gonna give up a few discussions and, you know, do the the new podcast. And so Tony called me like right away.
00:27:48
Speaker
And he was like, hey, you know, it was kind of open ended what you said, you know, kind of telling a little bit more. And he was like, man, because God's on the move. I mean, he's just like, there's so many people right now that are just changing. And, you know, he asked me what I was going to do. And I was like, I'm just going to quit and just, you know, change FK to, you know, the name and everything. He's like, you're going to lose people. I was like, I don't. I mean, who listens anyway?
00:28:17
Speaker
I mean, we do have blisters, I'm just saying. yeah Not many. um But yeah, so I mean, it's just a huge thing. like There's so many people right now. I don't i don't know. um I mean, it could be a while off still, but it's just like God's preparing
Future Plans and Personal Growth
00:28:38
Speaker
people, I guess. you know Yeah, no, I feel the same way for sure. I feel the same way for sure. So it's going to be, it's going to be interesting to see where, where this all takes, uh, so where the Lord takes us, I should say. Yeah. Um, because I think that's the most important thing is, is keeping our focus on him and letting in him, uh, steer the ship essentially. You know what I mean? Because even, even before my mental health thing, you know, I've talked about this a little before, but like my priorities are way out of whack.
00:29:08
Speaker
You know, like, explaining with Phil was number one, for sure. You know what I mean? In my life. And, you know, Nicole's second, the Lord's third, probably. You know, in reality, the Lord should be first, second, third, fourth, fifth. You know, he should be involved in every single thing I'm doing. yeah Not just, you know, at the top, just to say he's at the top, you know. um And so, yeah, its this has been a transformational experience because the Lord always uses things like what happened to me or what's happening to you. And in the moment when it's first happening, you're like, oh, this is bad. You know, this is bad. You're like, I got to give up AFK. I got to give up exploring with Phil. I got to stop investigating. You know, you know, because don't get wrong, like I i was really good at parental investigating. I was really good at doing exploring with Phil and all that stuff. But
00:29:59
Speaker
My priorities are out of whack, you know, and obviously the Lord has something else for me to do. I don't know exactly what that is yet, but I'm trying to ah ah faithful to him that he will let me know what it is when, you know, I see it. Um, so that's, that's pretty much what the, the journey I'm kind of on and where I'm at right now.
00:30:20
Speaker
Um, like I said, I got some announcements to make about exploring with Phil, but I would just say this, don't be worried. Explainer Phil's not going to be deleted off of YouTube. It's always going to be there for sure. And, um, I'll always make videos on some level. Like I probably won't be making weekly videos anymore or bi-monthly videos. I'll probably do like a lot of.
00:30:42
Speaker
you know, things I feel inspired to do, um you know, as far as like little funny things I see or, you know, like little minute clip short things about whatever, you know, like history, stuff like that, things I and i like and enjoy, but it's not gonna be at the same clip, that's for sure. yeah And um one thing I am, I can announce, it's not really a huge announcement, I don't know if anybody really care, but I'm gonna be doing my church's social media for Instagram.
00:31:11
Speaker
um as a way to kind of like help the church grow and help the church kind of get um noticed um because it's such a huge part of 2024 is having a a good social media presence online. Because that's how you reach people nowadays. like It's not like how it was when we grew up where like people are more geared to go to church and people, you know if you you go around the community or people see the church, they're like, oh, I'll stop in there. That's hardly happening. um I mean, it happens a little bit here and there, but like you know social media is where it's at as far as getting eyeballs on what you're doing and stuff like that. so
00:31:49
Speaker
I feel like honestly the Lord's calling me to do that but I feel like that's been something and I always thought the church needed and I was just too busy with my own stuff to really do it.
00:32:02
Speaker
And now that you know I've taken a step back from exploring with Phil, I'm like, I might as well do this, because I know the lord you know the church needs it, and the Lord will bless me doing it. And even if he's not telling me specifically to do it, I'm just going to walk out in faith and do it. Yeah, definitely. So like that's going to be really cool to see how that goes. um Because you know i get some I've seen a couple little church viral clips that I've seen that churches do, that I'm like, OK, I could do that. We could do that at our church. or You know, just like social media promotion and stuff like that. So I'm excited to see what the Lord takes it because I feel like it's going to it's going to help the church out a lot. My little church. Yeah, definitely. um Man, i'm i'm I'm just so excited about this because it's I think it's going to be awesome.
00:32:50
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um I know there's, there's a lot of stuff in my
Exploring New Podcast Directions
00:32:53
Speaker
head. I want to just, I want to do that. I felt like I couldn't do in the past, like, you know, talk about biblical archeology. That's that stuff is awesome. Cause there's so much stuff that is out there that proves the Bible that no one ever talks about. And they want me, some people talk about it. And then there's, I just, I want to like interview pastors. I want to get pastors on here. I want to get, you know, there's a lot of like LA Marzulli. I would like to talk to him.
00:33:22
Speaker
ah Um, I really really like to talk to him. Um, but there's just there's so much stuff that Um, we can do now. I just feel like I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders, you know um And it's it's gonna be awesome and there's I want to share one thing that I saw today On um on instagram actually it was really really cool. Um, I don't know if anybody else saw it on the instagram page I shared it but um the Muslim prince in in um Saudi Arabia converted to Christianity.
00:33:58
Speaker
And that's that's huge. Yeah, that is that is massive. That is massive, especially when you consider all the the human rights stuff with women and stuff in Saudi Arabia and a lot of other things as well. um So that's that's definitely a good thing, especially if it's sincere. Yeah. And, um you know, it's if that's you know really if his heart really did change, because that's that's what that's what ah Jesus can do for people. He can change you can change your life around. He can literally turn a life around that an average person would be like, oh, this person has no redeeming qualities. yeah And literally take that person and transform them into someone you don't even recognize.
00:34:39
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Yeah, 100%. You know, I mean, you there's so many examples of that in the Bible. Paul saw the Paul is probably the most clear one that you could point to. I mean, we're talking about a guy that was killing Christians, a guy that was persecuting Christians, and that was his job. And then he has a transformational experience on the road um where the Lord literally blinds him, speaks to him, and then literally transforms his life from there. And then he gets up a completely different person, literally a different person. Yeah.
00:35:10
Speaker
You know, and, um, and was probably the most, one of the most fervent, fervent people for the gospel and for Jesus. Um, and a man that never even met Jesus. As far as I know, I don't think he did, but, um, yeah, just an amazing story. So if you can do that for Paul.
00:35:31
Speaker
You know, you can do that for Todd White. He can do that for you, too. You know, so if you're listening out there and you're like, oh, you know, I've done I've done this. I've done that. I've lied. I've um um but ah you know, I've treated mistreated people. I've done this. The Lord even worse than that. Even worse than that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Lord murdered any murdered somebody.
00:35:52
Speaker
The Lord can for ken and is willing to forgive you of all your sins. And not only that, He will forget your sins. He will be on the sea of forgetfulness, as if they've never happened, which is something that Todd White always kind of talks about. And I think it's like such a powerful message because a lot of people are just handcuffed by the past.
00:36:13
Speaker
you know, oh, I have this past hurt this past and the people hang on to the past. And not only just things that they've done wrong, but like things that that people have done wrong to them.
Significant Conversion Discussion
00:36:23
Speaker
You know, and that could literally, you know, stunt someone's growth mentally for years and years and years. And some people never get underneath out of out from underneath that kind of stuff. yeah and but the But Jesus can get you out of that stuff and and literally transform your life. And so you are a new creation. Yeah, definitely. You know, and the past.
00:36:47
Speaker
is dead and it's gone you know so when you when you're you're reminded about your past that's not if if you're a christian and you've asked for forgiveness obviously that's not of god that's not god you know and that's that's one thing i was uh I think everyone struggles with them on some level, you know, as as far as like, because everyone's done something wrong, or done things they regret, or, you know, they're like, Oh, I wish I would have never done that, or wish to achieve this person better, and all that stuff. And you just got to let that stuff go.
00:37:18
Speaker
because if God doesn't remember it, then why are you remembering it? Yeah, definitely. You know, i I'm not saying like, you know, you know, make a tone for things you've done wrong, but I'm saying that don't let it affect your life moving forward after you've already asked forgiveness and you've moved past it because there's only one person that would bring up that kind of stuff after that. And that's the devil. So yeah, definitely. So one thing about the Saudi Arabian Prince, you brought up if he, if he's, he is sincere. So, um,
00:37:48
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In Islam, you know, if you're an um infidel, like ah a Christian or a non-believer, you know, it's a good possibility you could be beheaded over, especially over in um a, what's it called, Sharia law? Sharia law. Yeah. um And this this prince, his quote is so powerful, guys.
00:38:11
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um It was in an audio recording that he released under his name. It says he, he said, if they kill me but because of it, then I will be, I will appear before Jesus Christ and I'll be with him for all eternity. That is so powerful, you know?
00:38:32
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yeah that's i mean that's that takes courage for sure especially in saudi arabia like i said i mean yeah he is a prince and all that stuff so he does have power and that kind of stuff but with that said he still got he still has family that are muslims like his you know i mean they could easily annex him from the family and all that stuff, kill him and all that stuff, throw him off a building. I mean, people have seen the videos of people being thrown off buildings for various things yeah or get get their head chopped off. so yeah um yeah that's that's ah like ah Given your life for the Lord is ah a whole other level. Because if k Craig went for wrong in Revelation, it talks about, I was just reading this,
00:39:16
Speaker
talks about the people that are martyred that they'll come back with Jesus for the millennial reign and they'll be judging with Jesus during the millennial reign and all that kind of stuff and rule with him and all that kind of stuff. Which is super super interesting and fascinating. So I'm excited for these kind of conversations for sure because we could we could break down so many, um, like biblical things. Uh, cause there's just, I mean, the Bible is huge. It's very vast. A lot of different things in there. So, um, a lot to like go over a lot to learn a lot to teach people. Yeah. Because guys, I mean, I don't know everything. Um, I've been a Christian pretty much my whole life, but I still, um, and probably
00:40:00
Speaker
very young in my theology. um There's a lot of stuff that I don't know. So, I mean, we'll be learning it together, you know? Yeah.
Prayer Habits and Discipline
00:40:08
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Like like Phil was saying, talking about praying, I'm probably the worst when it comes to praying, you know, and reading my Bible. I'm in the worst. I hardly ever read my Bible. I hardly ever pray. Except on Sundays and stuff, you know, um I need to get in the habit of praying more and seeking God.
00:40:28
Speaker
um I do like, I pray like in my head and stuff, but I don't actually, there's ah this, i don' for those that of you out there who aren't Christians, um there's There's this like teaching of having a prayer closet where you get in there and you can just like block out all sounds and just get quiet and pray to God and and just you know have spend time with Him. um i really I really need to start doing that, you know getting get my little quiet area and where I can just be still and you know talk to God. and so
00:41:00
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Yeah, i see a secret place yeah um because that's that's super important. like I would recommend you start your day with a prayer time and then you end your day with a prayer time. you know um i so ah What I do in the morning i'm really I'm really good about it for when I'm working. when i'm not When I have days off, that's when I get out of my routine and sometimes I forget, or I just like you know get caught up doing other stuff. But like that's something I need to work on. But yeah, like for me personally, my quiet time in my quiet area is my work truck.
00:41:35
Speaker
You know, so like as I'm driving to my my first stop or the shop or whatever um I've been trying to pray for like at least a half an hour like to start the day And um don't get you wrong when you first start it's going to be hard. It's going to be difficult You're going to pray for a couple minutes and all of a sudden you're going to be Daydreaming about something else, you know, your your mind's going to wander and all that stuff but bring it back And then just like if you keep that discipline up and Not only that, if you kind of format it, ah whereas like you start you because you always want to start your prayers with praise. Just thanking him for all the blessings, all thanking him for you know having a sundial in the cross for your sins. like everything like Just thank him, thank him, thank him. Then you start praying for other people. Then you start praying for the country or your town and all that stuff. and then
00:42:24
Speaker
But before you know it, you're like 25 minutes in and you haven't even asked the Lord for anything about yourself yet. And then once you're done praying for everyone else, then you pray for yourself and you ask the Lord for, you know, you know obviously to renew your mind for the day, the full armor of God, and then obviously anything else that's going on in your life, you know, your job, your family, you know, like all that kind of stuff. And then obviously your burdens too. And not only that, even if you don't,
00:42:51
Speaker
know what to pray. It says in the word that the Holy Spirit intercedes on your behalf when you don't know what to say. So even if you're not like, oh, I'm not saying the right words or I don't know what, just do it because the Holy Spirit will take you the rest of the way. And the Lord knows what you need before you even ask.
00:43:11
Speaker
But it's just a matter of getting that because he wants a relationship with everybody. you He wants a relationship with me, with you, with every single person. And it's not just a one-way street. he wants He wants to hear from you, but he wants to speak to you as well. And he'll speak to you through prayer. He'll speak to you through his word. He'll speak to you through devotionals, um obviously sermons and all that stuff. But if you're not doing those things, you're not going to hear from God as much. yeah And then what ends up happening is the Lord will get your attention in other ways.
00:43:41
Speaker
like what happened to me or what happened to Jason, you know what I mean? Like the Lord will get ahold of you, would get your attention one way or another. Um, but it's important to like, really, if you want to transform your life into change, you gotta put in the work, you know, yeah you got you gotta, you gotta prayer, supplication and reading the word, you know, like all those things. Um, so it's, it's hard. It don't be wrong. It's definitely hard when you first start out for sure. You know, like I said, we're all part of this world, this world,
00:44:12
Speaker
It just, there's so much distractions. It's work. There's like, Oh, I got, what are we going to eat? What are you going to do for dinner? What are you going to do for this? We gotta, I got this, this thing going on. We gotta do, you know, like even church things can get in the way sometimes, you know, of praying and all that kind of stuff because you're like, I'm too busy. I gotta, I gotta do this. Gotta do that. You know, like we just get caught up in our, in our lives and our, in the, in this world and you know, the things going on because we're a part of this world.
00:44:37
Speaker
Um, so yeah, man, it's just, it's just a matter of like identifying the stuff and and seeing it. And, um, like the Lord will transform you for sure. Like, as yeah he's already, he's already working on me, there's things that I used to do that I don't do anymore, um, through this whole process. And not only that, even just like watching things on TV sometimes now, like certain programs or certain things I watch them like, um,
00:45:04
Speaker
like i see things in there and i'm like oh i was like oh that's kind of not that's kind of not right or like maybe i shouldn't be watching this you know what i mean like you know like it's just amazing how that kind of stuff once you start like seeking the lord all of a sudden I'm going to say he convicts you, but at a certain level you get convicted about some things. You're like, Oh man. And the Lord will point those things out to you. It's different for everyone. Obviously there are sins and then there are scruples. Scruples are things that aren't necessarily sins, but you're like, ah, I don't feel like I should do that.
00:45:38
Speaker
You know what I mean? So like, yeah there's some things that are scruples for me that I'm like, ah, I don't want to do that anymore. Or I don't want to do this, don't do that. And um you know, paranormal investigating is definitely could be one of those things. Because it's like, there isn't a verse in the Bible that says you cannot paranormal investigate. Yeah, there is verses about not going to mediums, not contacting the dead for money, or life advice, consulting the dead for life advice and that kind of stuff.
00:46:04
Speaker
But as far as like parental investigating, there really isn't something in there that you could be like, yes, this is it. This is what the verse that says you can't do it right here. Yeah, um there really isn't that verse. So it's it's a it's a it's a scruple and it's an area. It's a gray area, for sure, at the very least. And. um You know, for me personally, I was just like, I just I heard from God. He told me not to do it anymore. And until he tells me otherwise, I'm not going to do it. So, you know, like, that's that's basically um like my thoughts on the whole thing. But yeah, we could do a whole episode on that. I've been.
00:46:41
Speaker
yeah writing down every single Bible verse has that pertains to ah speaking to the dead, or even different translations too to try to get different understandings of what the original authors meant. Because if you you know you can read NIV, even from the NIV to the King James, it changes a lot.
00:47:02
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Like a lot of the verbiage changes, especially in Deuteronomy 18. Like a lot of the things like in the old, old, old, in Geneva and the King James, there's mentions of like a regarder of the times.
00:47:15
Speaker
and be like, that'd be someone that'd be like, Oh, see, I can see the signs in the sky. The world's ending, you know, like that, like that that's in there, yeah you know, or like having your child pass through fire, you know, which is so something that we would never do. But you know what I mean? That's in there. You know what I mean? So like, there's butch goes away. And if you go to the n NIV version, it's not even in there.
00:47:36
Speaker
So i mean some of that stuff like back in the day i mean in other cultures they still do that yes like the walking on the hot coals and stuff that would be passing through fire yes yeah like literal people people don't take as literal they're like oh you you mean like you know going through the fire going through the changes going you through hardship.
00:47:54
Speaker
Manoa, I think they're talking about literal passing through literal fire. you know Yes, literal fire. yeah and so And not only that, like sacrificing your children as well was part of that. like There's a bunch of stuff in there. And so like oh as time goes on with those different translations, like like some of those things kind of like changed and you know for different meanings or ah different... you know As time goes on, like depending on when it was written, which version we're talking about, like there was things going on in their time that they would put in there because it was relevant to them in that moment in time. you know Whereas like the regard of the times thing or passing through fire may not be important to us or something that we don't deal with, but in the ancient times they did. you know to me So I think that's why it's in there and then why it kind of disappears. and
00:48:41
Speaker
you know, replaced by something else and stuff. Um, but the, the general principle still there as far as like, um, you know, not doing these things. Cause it's, I mean, the Lord calls an abomination. Yeah. Um, you know what I mean? So like, it's, uh, it's, it's very interesting and familiar spirits are real and all that stuff. Um, and which is a whole interesting topic for sure, because it's like, what are these things? Because it really isn't clear.
00:49:12
Speaker
evidence in the Bible to be like, yes, this is what these familiar spirits are. You know, like, I think Joel is pretty much ah pretty much the expert on that. And he would probably say it's like, some sort of disembodied Nephilim spirits or something like that. Yeah. It's probably the case. Yeah, that's what they they talk about a lot about the, um you know, demons and stuff are disembodied.
00:49:36
Speaker
Nephilim spirits or I don't know. like I'm not an expert in that. dis Disembodied spirits of something. yeah yeah You know what I mean? Something that walked the earth at some point and no longer walks the earth, um which is very, very strange and peculiar. And and that's where like the mediums and stuff Um, yeah when they say they had like, oh, I have a familiar spirit and all that kind of stuff. That's what that is. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not. And so, which is so crazy because according to the Bible, it says that familiar spirits are basically, they've just been around so long that they know things about people. Yeah. And so that's why, you know, they'll go to a medium and they'll be like, Oh,
00:50:20
Speaker
I know this about this person. So say this about this, you know, this person. They have a relative. This is their name. This is what they were like. This is probably what they would want the person to say. Yeah. And so like people get caught up and they're like, Oh my God, I'm hearing from my relative. When it's like, are you?
00:50:39
Speaker
Yeah, you know, like, not probably not, probably not, probably not. And, you know, especially if that person was a believer, definitely not. Because it says it says in the Bible, you know, once you once you die, you're with with the Lord. So, you know, then you get into Hades. And the only context we have for Hades is where um oh man is it Elijah i can't remember now who it is i'm i was just reading this recently i don't remember who it was um i'll i'll find it for next week or for the next episode ah we can talk about it if you want but um essentially they're talking about Hades and there's two different before Jesus goes down there and
00:51:19
Speaker
but ah bust everyone out as far as the believers. He also preaches to the people down there that were long ago and ancient and all that stuff to try to convince them that he is the Lord and all that stuff.
00:51:31
Speaker
But prior to that, it's so interesting to that. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah yeah, three days as well. Yeah, he spent three days down there. Yeah, which is kind of crazy. So before that, there's a portion in the Old Testament where they talk about Hades, and there's ah two different sections. There's the non-believer section or the people that didn't believe in God, and there they're like in, I wouldn't say torment necessarily,
00:51:59
Speaker
but they are in a place where it's very very hot they cannot get relief and that sort of thing because there's a guy over there a rich man who's down there who spent his whole life rich and had all kinds of money he passes away he ends up there Right. And on the other side is this poor man who was a beggar and all this stuff. And he's on the good side and he's being taken care of. He's got all this you know great things and all that stuff. And so the rich man sees him on the other side. And I think it's Elijah. I don't want to make I can't remember who the
00:52:34
Speaker
person is down there but they like call out to them so they could speak to each other across across a great chasm they say it's a great chasm that separates the two and he speaks to them on the other side and he's like could you just please dip your finger in some water and put it on my tongue so i can cool my tongue And he basically says, no, that we can't cross over. We can't go over there. There's no way we can go over there. And then he's like, please, could you at least send one of my dead relatives, like back, back to tell everyone that, you know, that Jesus, like god that the Lord is real and to not end up. And so they don't end up in this place like me. And then um I want to say, Elijah, it could be not be Elijah. But then he says back to him, he says,
00:53:16
Speaker
um it's not It's not possible for your, whatchamacallit, to come back from the grave and to go and speak to them. Now, a lot of people say that that's just meaning that he can't come back to life and go back, but that also could mean that his spirit cannot leave that place.
00:53:34
Speaker
because it's held there. yeah um Now with that said, that was also Old Testament as well. When Jesus goes down there, he says he has the keys to hell and Hades and all that stuff. After Jesus preaches and all that stuff comes back up and you know does what he does with the disciples and all that or the Holy Spirit and all that stuff. There's not really any identification or markers that would say that after Jesus was done, he locked everything back up.
00:54:02
Speaker
yeah You know, could have Jesus left everything unlocked? Yes, He could have. And maybe that's why there are possible human spirits around. It's because it's not locked. The door's not locked anymore so they can come and go as they please. But maybe maybe these demonic entities and familiar spirits will take take them back down there and force them to go back down and stuff like that. So like that's a part of it that we'll never probably know because there's no other evidence in the Bible for any of that stuff.
00:54:32
Speaker
I've never heard that. That's very interesting thought of, you know, leaving the doors open. I've never i'vet never thought about that. It's very interesting. Yeah, I mean like it's just because I mean Why not? I don't know. Yeah, what do you lock them back up? I don't know You know, that's it's such a great question and something. I I mean, I'll never know but um It's definitely an interesting thought. That's why I always thought it could be possible That human spirits that aren't with Jesus ah Could still be around possibly
00:55:06
Speaker
Um, for that, for that very reason is because we don't really know what happens after Jesus, because Jesus does have the keys to life and death. We know that for a fact, we know that for a fact. So, you know, Jesus can bring back people from the dead and all that stuff. And he has the keys to hell and Hades, yeah at least, the at least the one on earth that we have now, obviously there will be a new hell in the lake of fire, which is different at the end times when people get cast into the second death, as they say, um, which is a little different than.
00:55:36
Speaker
you know, what we're talking about. Um, but, uh, yeah, it's definitely interesting. Like I said, I've been deep diving in all of this stuff to try to like, um, look up any, any little verse I could find about all this stuff. So I still got a little more to go, but, um, definitely interesting. Oh yeah, definitely totally interesting. There's a lot, I mean, gosh, there's so much stuff for us look to look into now. I mean, it's wide open.
00:56:05
Speaker
stuff that, you know, like I love the book of Job ah that's is fascinating to me. that's That's something I would love to do a deep dive on. And also I'd love to do it like, um, like we're talking about in times do a deep dive on cause they're so, it's so intricate. Like, you know, the different judgements, there's like the sills and then there's the throne judgments and yeah you know, it's so intricate and, um,
00:56:32
Speaker
There's one thing that I'm going to say it now because ah it's something I've always thought about because it talks about, you know, these locusts coming up on the earth with the face of men. And I've always like, man, you know what? That this sounds like a helicopter to me. Like with a canopy, like you can see the person's face and it'll because it kind of like a Apache helicopter gun looks like a locust.
00:56:55
Speaker
You know, yeah, no, absolutely. and ah You know, we're also talking about an ancient guy seeing images of the future, too, and just describing them the best way he knows how. yeah Yeah. So like that could definitely be possible. Yeah, definitely be possible. Because, yeah, um yeah, Revelation is so interesting. um One thing just to just to mention this, because I think a lot of people don't even know this.
00:57:19
Speaker
Oh, these Christians just kind of like, because Revelation is so such a tough book. It is tough. But um there's the white throne judgment, which is the the judgment where the non-believers, the people who didn't accept Jesus as the Lord and Savior will be judged on their deeds. And of course, everyone doesn't make it because no one on on their with their own right is sinless. And so they you know so they all get judged. But not only that,
00:57:48
Speaker
There's the judgment for the believers as well, but the judgment for the believers is different. it's yeah We're not going to be judged, be like, oh, you're not going to go to heaven because you know because when you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ with your whole heart that he died for your sins, that's what gets you into heaven. But you are judged on what you did for the Lord down here.
00:58:10
Speaker
And so, but what that means is and all that refers to is your reward in heaven. So the more you do for the Lord down here, the more, the greater your reward will be in heaven. yeah You know what I mean? So that's why some people will have a more than others. And when it comes to heaven, as far as if you're a believer, which I think is um definitely interesting for sure. Like you can get into heaven by just believing Wholeheartedly that Jesus died for your sins and and he is your savior and all that stuff but just imagine Being in front of Jesus
00:58:48
Speaker
And being like, like all these, are all the things that you did and you didn't really do much else for me. yeah So you're only going to get this one little house and that's it. Or, you know what I mean? Like that's gotta to be crushing for all of us just to be like, man, I should have done more. I could have done more like I should have done more. And that's like something that I just keep on thinking about. Like, man, I, like, I haven't done enough. You know, I gotta do more. I gotta do more. I gotta to do more.
00:59:15
Speaker
Um, you know, not because I want more rewards, but because the Lord calls us to do that. And how dare me, how dare I accept him, accept his son for dining on the cross for my sins and then not do something for him. Yeah. You know what? you know That brings up a good point. So, um, are you familiar with, um, gosh, what are their names? They're magicians.
00:59:42
Speaker
And they're, they're kind of funny. Um, gosh, there's a big guy and a little guy. Oh, Penn and Teller. Penn and Teller. Yeah. So, um, I think it's Penn was, he was, you know, on his, I think it was a talk show or maybe I saw it on YouTube. I don't know if it was a talk show or something he, he produced. And, um, so he, he's a, he's an atheist, right? Like a staunch atheist.
01:00:09
Speaker
um And he was talking about after show this guy came up to him and said um hey, you know, I wanted to Tell you about Jesus, you know and so um Pin teller pin or pin sat down and and talked to him, you know, very cordial um And he said he said something after the fact he he said that it meant so much to him that this guy would come and tell him about Jesus. He said, I'm still an atheist. I don't believe, but the fact of this man who knows or who believes in Jesus and believes that, you know, there's going to be a judgment that he would share that with me.
01:00:59
Speaker
I mean, what what what right do you have to keep it to yourself if you know there's a God? If you know there's Jesus, you don't keep that to yourself. You tell every everyone. I mean, I thought that's so impactful. I mean, it he didn't change his his life, right? But he said, it's so it's it's amazing that he said that, yeah, it meant so much to him. Because if you have that, you need to share with everyone. You know, it's, that's big. Yeah, I just think about ah like the white throne and judgment and all these people have met in my life. And then being like, why didn't you say anything to me? Yeah.
01:01:35
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Do you know what I mean? Like that's crushing. You know, like you got it, you have to at least make it known and, you know, and at least tell him one time. yeah You know what I mean? Cause then, then at at the very least you're like, Hey, I tried to tell you, you know what I mean? Like, but yeah, like I go, like I said, it goes back to the Todd White thing where he went 30 something years of his whole life and not one Christian ever told him about Jesus. Yeah.
01:02:00
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Like that's crazy, you know, so. But I can't believe it's been an hour already. What an episode. It's crazy. ah Guys, um I want to say real quick, if anyone has any prayer request, please share them with us um wherever you do social media, wherever you listen to this podcast. um Just send us a message. And if you have anything you want us to pray about, I would love to pray for you. Um, and also I want to share that, um, if, if you are seeking after, after Jesus, after Yeshua, um, then please just, all you have to do is just call out his name and he's there. He's waiting for you. Just all it says is you have to believe in your heart that Jesus died on a cross.
01:02:55
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After three days, he rose again and he will come back for us. That's all you have to do is believe and he is there waiting for you. So guys, um, thanks for joining us tonight. Um, Phil, do you have anything you want to close with? Um, no, just, um, yeah, like Jason said, if you have any prayer requests, feel free to message us. Just know that, uh, Jesus loves you and, um, we will pray for you in, we hope you guys come back next week.
01:03:24
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Definitely. And guys, we will see you soon. Much love. Image of discussion. Image of discussion. Isaac, it's going to be hard to say this. Image of the invisible. Peace ends now.