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Episode 1 - Quarantine
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The musings of two polar opposite people as they navigate the world
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Introduction to the Podcast
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You are listening to Intro to Extra, the life and times of polar people.
Understanding Different Perspectives
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The podcast where an introvert and extrovert talk about how they perceive and experience life differently through random musings and anecdotes.
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This podcast is meant to explore experiences and is intended to provide a certain level of empathetic understanding. In no way are the opinions expressed in this discussion an absolute about introvert and extrovert realities, simply to individuals awareness of each other's methods of coping with their existence in the world. Each week we will discuss a new phenomenon and we'll end when we feel we've exhausted enough experiences or no one actually listens.
Meet the Hosts: Greg and Ross
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Hey everybody, I'm here with my co-host Greg.
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The Extrovert, and I'm here with Ross. The Introvert.
Quarantine Experiences: Extrovert vs. Introvert
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And today's topic is going to be quarantine. So Greg, tell me a little bit about quarantine. How does that make you feel?
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Well, now, as I likely refer to my living situation, the prison that consumes all of my personality and being, and now people in prison are going to be offended at this point. Now people in prison are like, dude, you don't even know. Let's move beyond that. We're being psychological prison metaphors. Read the disclaimer.
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Anyways, I think quarantine the first three weeks was exciting. It was new. It was like cool work from home. Everybody else's work from home. I'm learning a new skill, how not to pound my pencil against the table, whatever it is on the phone.
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But yeah, no, now it's just, it's dragged on at this point. Like now quarantine just feels like this punishment that I have to wake up with every day. And the way I usually talk about this is just this idea that like you never get your batteries recharged. And so yeah, you have Zoom and ways to get in, but there's only so many virtual happy hours that aren't actually happy that you can go to before you're just like, dude, I'd rather just, you know what, no. Like if you're not coming over, I just don't know.
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So, so how, how long does it feel? How long does this timeframe feel to you? Like it's been, it's been six months, right? We're in August end of August. How long does it actually feel like you've been quarantined in your mind?
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Oh, this is an absolute lifetime Ross. I mean, this is this has been, I mean, I'm counting the days now, like I joke about it being prison. But I seriously at one point, if this wasn't my parents rental house, I would have like scratches on the wall of the number of days that we've been locked up. But I mean, I think the same thing goes for you. So how are you feeling in quarantine? So it's
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And I wouldn't say it's the greatest thing ever, but it doesn't bother me at all, right? Like it's, do I miss traveling? Do I miss going out with my wonderful wife? Yes, absolutely. Am I perfectly content hanging out here all day long and just having basically a topped off full battery, as you would say, all day long? Absolutely, it's wonderful, right? And for me, timeframe,
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I, I seriously was talking with a coworker. I was like, it's been three months. He's like, he's an extrovert. He goes, don't do that to me. It's been one, two, three, it's been five months. Do not do that to me. I'm like, sorry. He was like offended. And I was like, it only feels like it's been a couple of months. Like, so for me, it's like, it's been super fast. Yeah, it's definitely different. I mean, I think I think we extroverts, or at least me personally, being an extrovert, you notice the days because
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each morning that you wake up you realize how difficult it is to get out. I mean I was reading an article about procrastination and the idea that
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It's really hard to get motivated to do tasks when you know they'll just be waiting for you tomorrow and the scenery doesn't change. The environment doesn't change. I mean, I wake up every morning and it's like, okay, I guess I got to trudge upstairs and go to the computer and do it again. And something I used to enjoy, which was that chance to break away and be in front of a computer when I get home and check out email and shop and whatever, now just seems like
Life Changes and Future Plans
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a chore that I have to sit in front of a computer. Yeah. See, for me, I don't. The routine is even better for me now because it's even more structure around things. Right. And part of that is, granted, I'm a routine guy to begin with, introvert or not. Right. I love, I love the routine, but for me, it really helps with the routine. Now, going back to what I said, what do I, what do I miss? Yeah. I miss travel.
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I would ask you, what's the first thing you would actually do when you get out of quarantine? Like say there's a vaccine tomorrow. That's just wishful thinking. What's the first thing? Would you just go out and hug a person? I mean, would you just like, would you have a restraining order within within like half a day?
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Now, I don't think extroverts are looking for human contact from the physical sense. But I mean, I was I was actually thinking about it. Like I was I was even planning out what it would take to go to Barbados right now. I'm not even a beach person. I'm not like, Oh, I want to be stuck on an island with a with a specific diameter of places in which I can travel. But I was like, wow, that sounds fun. At least I could live somewhere else and meet new people. And then you have to realize that you have to go through the all thought process go, no, it's probably going to be the same thing again.
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And I think that's a lot of it too for extroverts, thinking about touch. I don't think it's the human physical touch piece that extroverts are missing. I think the reason they're anti-mask is that idea that you can't see someone's face. I don't think it's so much the mask itself because I've gone out, I've worn the mask, yeah, it gets hot, we're in Texas. But I think it's the lack of being able to give facial expressions. You just see eyes.
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And if you don't have, if you're not one of those eyebrow people that has like those amazing, like you've just had a little too much Botox, like you miss out on the facial expressions. And I think that's the eyebrow people. But I think that's, I think extroverts are missing that sense. So what the first thing that I would do, I think,
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would be to go out and be out in the world without my mask on. And I mean, do it safe. I haven't gone out without my mask on because I'm just a little bit paranoid. But the idea of being able to go to dinner and sit with them and tell stories and show all the smiles and hopefully you went to dinner with people with good teeth. But, you know, like basically go out and be out and about. And I think that's what I miss. And I think I would imagine it's somewhat similar for an introvert in this situation.
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Yeah. I mean, the first thing we would do is we definitely go out to a restaurant, right? Go to a movie to a theater where I don't have to make my own popcorn. That would be fantastic. But I asked my wife that we're both, we're both introverts. And I said, what would we do tomorrow? She goes, we'd go to a movie. Just the two of us.
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and then maybe go to dinner just the two of us the two people that have been living together in the same house for six months with only seeing close family members we would still just the two of us go to a movie but that's what
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To your point, the facial expressions, that is important to me for people that I'm close to. I want to see that. I miss that interaction. We went and visited. We did a road trip, went and visited with my mom, and we stayed socially distanced. She's a little bit older, so I'm very careful. She probably wouldn't have minded me giving her a hug or something. But I'm like, I'll stay back. But it was fun interacting with her. I really enjoyed that.
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Did I have a desire to go in and go to some sort of, I'm not a bar person. I don't know. I don't even know what these are called, Greg. Places that have lots of people I don't know. What is that even called? Let's go off on that bar thing for a minute, because I think what makes our relationship so unique in the introvert extrovert, why even this podcast even was invented, is that the listeners here don't know about the trivia night conversation.
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And I think that probably tells it, tells it true. To the list there, Ross lives vicariously through me in some ways as an extrovert. And I do live vicariously through Ross as an introvert. One day before pre-quarantine, Ross decided to send me a text message to tell me about what he had looked up on the internet, which was what bars were having a trivia night. And then told me in my single state that I was in and that like, you know, you could go out and go to trivia night and then tell me all about it.
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And I think in some ways it's nice to have an introvert friend that sent you things to do. I was just trying to be like, first off, what does an extrovert even do? Second off, how do they date? So I'm just like Googling stuff. Like I almost put in fun extrovert activities. I'm like, oh, trivia. Greg would like trivia.
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But unfortunately, I went to the trivia night and apparently our introverted world that's being created more and more as we go, the trivia night was played at different individuals tables with electronic buzzers. So now you're not actually playing around like no one's talking, no one's talking mess, no one's talking to each other. It's just that group of four people are playing with themselves basically against a bar.
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And it was more lonely in that setting than it was if I was at like a group of four people's house play, a trivial pursuit. I mean, I'm like, I'm like, tell that genius, thank you, whoever decided to come up with that. You know, you know, they were like, I like trivia, but I don't want to interact with others beyond my circle. So so you went to introvert trivia. That's what that's what that was. That trivia night at a pub, which was just an extension of at home play.
Lifestyle Adjustments During Quarantine
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You don't know Jack on the switch.
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Um, but I think that's I think that's the interesting part. I don't know how much and I think that's the thought process for me with you is how much is the world going to be different now that we've experienced COVID land?
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as opposed to as opposed to how different was it really before we got here? Like everybody says I miss going out and miss doing these things. But for most people when I asked them, they don't really do that much different except for go to a physical office, which is what I think people are missing is that change of routine, that idea of a different space.
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Yeah, and for me, you know, I thought about, I thought a lot about this, like what, what is something that would stick, right? What is something that I didn't do before that because of this quarantine, I would continue on doing, right? And, you know, I joked, it was like, well, I'd keep getting a door dash because somebody brings me my food and it's, I don't even have to talk to the waiter, basically, right? You know, I don't even have to interact with this strange person, but I was curious, like for you as an extrovert,
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Is there something that you have learned or experienced being quarantined that actually you're like, you know, I'm going to keep doing that. Or that's something that is a life change that I'm going to make.
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Well, I do appreciate delivery. I do like the idea of delivery and the fact that we have the logistics now that we can get things delivered in grocery stores. It is a time saver, but I do miss the grocery store. Granted, I get myself in a lot less trouble now that I can't go to the grocery store starting up random conversations. Like, for instance, I won't be like in the hair dye section and tell someone, oh, that color looks good on you and not realize that that somehow is a come on.
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Um, do that I've I have done that and I have realized very quickly you can't do that. That's what that is. Don't do that. Jot down grocery store shopping is an entire episode because that you probably get dressed up to go grocery shopping.
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Oh, I do. I do. And I'm happy when someone stops me in the in the in the pathway and they're like, Oh, hey, they see that I have vegetarian options in my cart. They're like, Oh, hey, what I would I helped a lady at the Walmart before COVID land, I helped a lady with a Walmart figure out what really good vegan dishes at like nine o'clock in the morning on a Saturday, because I was by the tofu. Like that. I mean, do you really feel that your impeccably pressed shirt is what caused her to ask you about that?
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No, it's just I was the only guy standing by the tofu. That was about it. And the other guy from the Walmart couldn't help her out. OK, OK, OK. I was like, I was like, maybe that's that's something for all the single listeners out there is, you know, press your shirt before you go to. But I have I have dressed up to go to.
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I mean, I happen to have just been coming from, you know, church, but I showed up at the grocery store in a suit jacket. And the lady was like, Oh, wow, it's really nice that people dress up and don't just wear their pajamas to the Walmart. And I'm like, Well, you're a little bit judgy. But at the same time, the fact that my personality evokes people to talk to me, tells you a lot about me, my color choices, everything about me is an extrovert, you see me coming before you see me. I mean, that's kind of the idea, right?
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Now you're at home all day. Are you dressing up just like for work? Do you still do on the full ensemble? Or are you like 95% of the people that I interact with? It's like, this is a ticket for T-shirt land. I'm going to go straight T-shirt every day.
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I have tried. I have tried to dress up and I just get made fun of because no one wants to dress up. And so they're like, oh, take actually the bank president. True story. The bank president. I wore first time meeting with her. I wore cufflinks. I wore a suit jacket. I wore a tie. And she was like, hmm.
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take that jacket off like that like I'm in a t-shirt like take that jacket off and I was like okay it's like and you have cufflinks too the point is is that would be mortified absolutely started it she started it I was trying to be professional no you started it you were you were dressing up and she saw you before she heard you remember
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You just got through saying that, Greg. True. True. Very true. So to that point, though, you're dressing up, you've decided it's not worth it. People will say stuff. Does that bother you? As an introvert, that would bother me. If I wore something, someone's like, oh, you're wearing a t-shirt, kind of slumming it today, huh? Just wearing that t-shirt? Would that bug you?
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I've had, I think people are less likely to tell someone they're bumming it in a t-shirt than they are to tell you you look dressed up. I mean, I wore a pink, it's bubble gum. I've worn a pink jacket to work and people are like, what's up, good human man? How you doing, Bubblicious? Which, by the way, if your boss ever calls you Bubblicious, you, yeah, and that was the conservative company you and I used to work at. So, tells you a lot about clothes and appropriateness. But I think, I think for me, it doesn't bother
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me so much if someone points it out, but I could imagine with you it probably would bother you if someone did point out like your apparel choices. Yeah. Now taking it back with a little tangent there on apparel, that'll be another one how we dress because that's, that's a whole another way to, that's a whole another way to blend in that as an introvert, I have mastered that, right? I will go with the styles and trend of like two years earlier to where it's not quite out of style, but it's not in style.
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It's a narrow gap, but if you can go right in there, you can go totally unnoticed. How much longer can you do this, Greg? I have my opinions of how much longer I could do this without my travel and being able to do some of the hobbies that I have that do require me to go out.
00:15:39
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you know be amongst crowds i'm a disney fan so there's that but how much longer like do you feel you can go through this
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I mean, Disney's a whole nother story, right? The idea of going to pandemic wonderland just doesn't seem like the trip that I wanna make. I mean, I was already worried about the germs that exist at the Disneyland park. I don't care how clean they are. And I mean, I'm a big Disney freak as far as leadership and those things. I don't care how clean it is. I have seen kids, yeah. But I think for me, we're gonna do this as long as it takes. But at some point,
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at some point I'm going to do the math and either go to see new scenery and go to see new people or I'm going to just pick up and move to Charlotte where I'm supposed to be going sooner than later just because I can't do it anymore but I think I think I'm going to make more decisions around January-February timeline and I think that's about all I got left in May. Anything longer than that I think we're
00:16:42
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life just won't really seem like it's worth existing and necessarily and that sounds really depressing but I think it's it's like what how much life I can give a year to this right you can do anything for a year after that it's kind of at that point where you go okay how much risk am I willing to take here yeah that's fair now you gonna have you thought about getting a pet
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And this is coming from introvert ignorance alert.
Social Dynamics and Grooming
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Would a pet help? I guess maybe that should be the question. So says the guy with three cats. So says the guy with three cats. Two cats. You could have three. You could have three. Fair, but I don't. Just two.
00:17:24
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not cat man yet, not quite, but I mean just like my my cats help me cope with it. I think I would I mean I think I would like if I wasn't allergic to cats, I think I might consider a cat there a little bit lower maintenance for for me. I had dogs. I had dogs for a long time. I like dogs.
00:17:49
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I think right now because my life has kind of been, I think that's it, right? I think there's a couple of things going on here that's not necessarily for introvert, extrovert. My life is relatively in limbo. Would I like a pet? Absolutely. A pet would probably be doing wonders for me right now. And yes, I could borrow one to foster, but with my heart, I would end up loving that thing and never giving it back. They'd be calling me for returns like library books. Can you bring the puppy back? No, no, no, no. He needs more fostering. He needs more fostering.
00:18:17
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Under my tutelage, he will grow up to be a wonderful pet for someone else, but he needs more fostering. Yeah. Yeah. Well, one thing I realized, one thing I do miss haircut. Oh, man. Boy, do I miss a haircut. Now, fortunately for anyone listening, they don't have to be looking at me right now because
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I've got like this weird looking like 90s-ish somewhat long hair slash mullet starting to grow in the back. It's pretty glorious, but I'm missing the haircut. Now I could go on and on about whether or not I like to talk when I'm getting a haircut and a haircut is something that's a business transaction versus a social experience.
Challenges in Remote Interactions
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Do you talk Russ? Do you talk to them?
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I do, but that is because the person who's been cutting my hair has been cutting my hair for over 12 years. So I have established a relationship with that person that I'm comfortable. But if you send me to great clips right now.
00:19:11
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I'm going to, it would almost be like I just show them a picture and don't even say words, show them a picture of what I want to cut my hair, right? Just make, just make a little scissors symbol, you know, just like little scissors, you know, whatever, whatever ASL is for scissors. I would learn it and I would go in there and I would just sign it and just show them a picture. But are you, uh, you looking forward to the, to the haircut or you just going to let it go? Just going to let it just keep letting it grow out.
00:19:36
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My mother wants me to let it grow up. But I mean, it's it's fine. I have all these curls, definitely, definitely bordering on the puffball. But I, you know, I have I've same as you, right? I'm a little bit more particular, fashion conscious, whatever. I have a stylist because I'm bougie like that. And yeah, he won't he won't stay home. That's his problem. Like he has to be out in the world. So I'm like, yeah, I read that newspaper article, 85 people infected with COVID because of the hairstylist. And I look at John and go,
00:20:06
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Yeah, I said your name, John, on this podcast. Stay home, John. Stay home so I can get a haircut. Me being selfish. Sure, sure. Well, so one thing that both of us are experiencing right now is we've both kind of gone into new positions, right? Right. And whether the company we're at, new company, how, you know, combination of quarantine, like for even for me,
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as an introvert it's difficult getting to know people because i do i do enjoy interacting with people and getting to know them so that i can build that relationship and really open up it's very difficult for me to do that in a new position i'm curious like from your standpoint
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getting to know your new team getting to know your peers? Is it what's the biggest challenge for you? Have you just is it just you just have to keep hammering away at it and just having meetings? Like versus hey, you could just go into the office and get to know these people. It's definitely not how I'd like to meet them. I am a I am a casual inner actor.
00:21:18
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Tell me more, once again, introvert ignorance. Is that code for you or one of those people that just randomly starts to talk to me? Yes. I'm like the guy who just gophers over the side of your cubicle and just like, hey, hey, what's going on? Hey. Okay. Yeah. I know that guy. I would find out all the coordinates of all the people that I need to meet. And then I would just quietly sneak up on them.
00:21:43
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You can just be like, hey, so you're, so you're Jess, huh? Uh, yeah. So we're supposed to meet and talk and yeah, I was supposed to get to know you and just, you know, put them on edge a little bit. It's not exactly the best approach, but it's, it's mine. And, and I'm not afraid of it. I think.
00:22:02
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i'm much more apt to have kind of casual informal conversations and those type of interactions than i will have a formal one the worst is to go to a meeting uh and not know anybody because i'd like to know everybody in there and and have that kind of interaction now that's me too like that's one where i i want to understand my audience i want to know them for different reasons for me though right for me it's more
00:22:28
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It's more motivating, like motivated by what can I do to learn what they're motivated by for you? It's more, how can I interact with them more and build this relationship? I'm not there. I'm not there to build a relationship right off the bat. I've got to feel it out, right? I'm going to be more reserved and figure that out, which is kind of easier to do in quarantine, honestly.
Virtual Socializing: Opportunities and Limitations
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Because I can sit in a zoom meeting in my school small little video square, just kind of hang out there, turn the video off if I'm, you know, if I'm not feeling it, turn the video on when I'm feeling it. But I can't imagine for you not being able to physically walk into a room and read emotion. And like, well, yeah, I think I think that's actually, and that's, that's really the extrovert introvert thing is unfair.
00:23:14
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The best we have right now is video conferencing. That's the best we have. And the idea that you either all decide to go all in on the video or we go no in on the video. This half, you'll see the people jump in with their video and others don't. And I get it, you can have an excuse like my laptop camera doesn't work, whatever. But come on, at some point I can mail you a $30 camera. The idea is that you can disengage.
00:23:39
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You can tell when someone's on video, because I know when I'm not on video, I'm not accountable to anything going on in the video, in the conference. And I see that with everybody. I see that you have 30 people on a meeting, you have five people with video, and they're the only people that are interacting because they can see each other's faces. Granted, they're like looking to the left, not exactly looking the camera, because if you've done the look in the camera thing, it's kind of creepy, like someone stole your soul.
00:24:00
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It is and it's exhausting after a while but there's still a level of you're opening up to the person when you share video to the people on there. It is exhausting but again I think that also speaks to what's happened with meetings.
00:24:21
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Greg's opinion is not relevant here on productivity. This is about introverts and extroverts, because I have an attitude on why reason why people schedule tons of meetings is to hide the fact that are obvious skate the re work that they're actually doing. But beyond Greg's own bias cynical attitude towards that. I do think that the
00:24:39
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that that you should be president meetings the video does give you that and I do understand that extroverts dominated the workplace before. And if you weren't an extrovert, we had no empathy for the introvert who didn't want to go to meetings all the time and would be exhausted by it. But
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At the same breath, the extroverts are trying really hard to make sense of the world today in COVID land and trying to do this conference calls that aren't playing real well. And it's not, I mean, we're trying, we're trying to do the work that we need to do to be engaged. And we find that in the workplace, introverts are even more introverted now in work from home than they were prior.
00:25:15
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To give you one other way to know how I've learned how introverts work in COVID lamb, there's that there's that five minutes before a meeting starts, right? And you have that kind of buzz, like it sounds like when the horns and the strings go at a symphony when they're just kind of warming up the instruments, there's like that instant buzz at the first five minutes.
00:25:33
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Oh yes, that buzz. When someone goes, does anybody have any filler? You can better bet in a meeting of 50 people, Greg is probably still the first guy to bring on the filler. And what did I talk about yesterday? What did I talk about on Friday? Oh yeah, I was pointing out how very few people have high speed internet in San Antonio and how the oppressive nature
00:25:58
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of the modern economy has created in the pandemic. And like no one had anything to say because, well, one, you can't refute me. And second of all, yeah, who does that? Greg does that. That's what Greg does. He just makes everybody uncomfortable before the meeting even starts.
00:26:13
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What's interesting is, and it's an interesting point you bring up, if I'm in a meeting, there's a level of, if there's enough people that I've established a relationship with, there could be a hundred people in there. If there's enough people I've established a relationship with,
00:26:29
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I don't mind being the filler guy ironically enough like I don't I'll start talking to them now I'm I'm talking to them so I feel bad because I'm not talking to the audience but I'm at least talking to them and sometimes people will jump in and say other things I don't mind that that doesn't bother me that doesn't
00:26:47
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That doesn't make me anxious or anything like that. I'll be the filler guy if it's people I know. Now, I'm not going to burst into a room of 50 people and start talking about the economic gap and how it relates to internet access in San Antonio. I know it exists.
00:27:03
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that's that's a that's a triple G thing all day long right there you go you go for it but I'm I'm gonna be talking about how hot it was in the morning for my morning run or something right I'm starting with the weather right that's an introvert topic right there start with the weather ease into the conversation it's okay no one's gonna judge you for talking about how hot it is in San Antonio so
00:27:24
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Yeah, no, no one will. Yeah, the weather is an interesting time. Like, no, I mean, I know, do know the rules, right? You don't talk about sex, you don't talk about politics, you don't talk about religion. And at the beginning of any conversation. But there are plenty of other conversations you probably shouldn't talk about, and I will hit all of them.
00:27:42
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Is it worse because you're quarantined now? So like your filter is just kind of like bye-bye? I think a lot of people's filters are gone. Definitely extroverts filters are gone. I definitely see the boundaries of space.
00:27:58
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Because I think, I do think, I do think that animinity, I've talked about this before, if you text someone, there's so much animinity. I think that's the reason why people feel comfortable sending inappropriate pictures and saying inappropriate things to people on text, because, well, it seems anonymous. Ish, well, ish. Ish, right?
Home vs. Office: Comfort and Dynamics
00:28:16
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Nothing's anonymous. Phone call definitely has some of that too. You can be somewhat confident when someone can't see you. I noticed that in meetings on Zoom, if you can't see a video, you're much more apt to say things that you probably wouldn't say if you want video. Video still though allows some wall to be there because the space itself is still filled by the space you're used to being in. You're in your home. You're in your comfort zone already.
00:28:44
Speaker
And even if you try to make it look like an office and everything else, it's still somewhat where you feel most comfortable. So you have that confidence. The workplace is very different. The workplace almost had this idea that you'd walk in. Now, what I will say though, is I love that there is no more, there's very limited pomp and circumstance. People used to tell me all the time, Greg, you need to sit up straight. Why?
00:29:06
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Like, what does that have to do with anything? The contents, what do I'm here for? Why does me sitting up straight have anything to do with anything? But the image matters. And I think what COVID has done is allowed for people to be themselves more.
00:29:17
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But again, as we point out, throughout this whole entire discussion, extroverts and introverts are becoming more and more themselves.
Post-Quarantine Predictions
00:29:23
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And I think that's, I worry about how big that divide will be when we come back. Yeah. Yeah. The gap is getting wider and it's going to cause more problems. Well, Greg, you know, I'll say this, keep fighting the good fight, man. You can do it. And you know, if you need, if you need a therapy session or if you need someone to talk to, just look in the mirror, start talking to yourself.
00:29:47
Speaker
Just pretend you're someone else, right? Just be like, hey, how are you? How's it going? Something like that. But I think it'll be good. I do think, to your point, big concern is the divide, but I do think we're learning more about people. Part of the reason we even started this, as you said at the beginning, is
00:30:06
Speaker
I don't know how you're taking these things, right? Like I hear different anecdotes from people who are extroverts. As an introvert, I think, oh yeah, I'm handling it this way, but I'll talk to other introverts and completely different perspective, so.
00:30:21
Speaker
Yeah, I think today, to sum up and recap some of the things here, and I'll let you sign off this, but we've covered, I think there's a few topics to come. I've only scratched the surface of the overview of kind of work. We have plenty more to go into. I think there's...
00:30:39
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It'd be interesting to invest in understanding how we became introverts and extroverts and those realities.
Wrapping Up and Future Topics
00:30:44
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But I think just on the surface conversation, we might be able to give people some sense of empathetic understanding of their plight as we go because again, that's what we set this all up for was that. So I'd be curious.
00:30:57
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Even I am curious to know what we're going to talk about next week and next week's on podcast section. I mean, we can definitely go into my dating exercises. That's been an interesting event. Quarantine dating for extrovert. What's dating? I'm an introvert. What's dating? What does that mean?
00:31:14
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That's going to be one-sided conversation there, Greg, I'm going to tell you right now. It's not, not exactly. Well, I'll tell you what my perception is of how extroverts date. So that'll be entertaining, very, very unscientific, but entertaining nonetheless. So yeah, we'll talk more and to the ones of twos of maybe tens of people listening.
00:31:40
Speaker
To all of my family members and friends, if you've made it this far, congratulations. But yes, thank you to everyone for listening to the first episode of Intro to Extra. Thank you for listening to this week's Intro to Extra. Next week, the topic is school.