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The 10 Running Shoes You Need To Know About | London Marathon Tips
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In this episode of the podcast, the team try to come up with a list of 10 shoes you need to know about by whittling down a list of 70. - and it's not easy.
We also go through some last minute London Marathon tips.
Big thanks to Fear of Tigers for the killer intro music. You can listen to more of his stuff over at https://www.patreon.com/fearoftigers
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Transcript
Introduction and London Marathon Tips
00:00:04
Speaker
Hey, Tommy from The Run Testers and welcome back to The Run Testers Podcast. In this episode, we're doing a couple of things. The first is we're going be giving some tips for London Marathon if you're running it this weekend or if you're listening to this podcast this weekend. And the second thing is we're going to be having a bit of fun by going through a list of 70 running shoes out at the moment and we're going to be picking...
00:00:22
Speaker
the 10 that we think you need to know about. So it's not going to be the best running shoes at the moment, it's going to be 10 shoes that we think you should be looking at as options for your next purchase. We also know that we probably missed some shoes out. So apologies if your favorite shoe isn't in there. Let us know in the comments if you think we've got it wildly wrong. But it is meant to be a bit of fun.
00:00:44
Speaker
Right, let's dive in and do the podcast.
00:00:53
Speaker
Good evening, Runtesters. How are you? Good, good. Yeah, very well, thank you. Yeah, good. We've got sun now. It's looking positive. The world's looking... Well, not the whole world, but The world looks terrible. looking k The UK's looking a bit of sun in that night. It's a little bit of sunshine. Forget the other stuff. The sun now. It's like... get sleep I just try to think too much about the Strait of Hormuz. Yeah.
00:01:17
Speaker
I just look out the window and that's more that's all I think about.
Marathon Experiences and Listener Feedback
00:01:20
Speaker
So it's we're deep into marathon season. Boston Marathon's just been. had messages from various people about Boston Marathon, but it's London Marathon coming up next weekend. Nick, you're doing it.
00:01:31
Speaker
I am doing it. Kieran, you're not doing it. You opted against. Yeah, I'm off to Hamburg to do the Hamburg Marathon. Is that the big This weekend as well? Yeah, yeah, this year. So, yeah. So, I'm actually missing all the pre-London marathon fun that's happening and fighting off invites and events and... Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of events....which I'm sad about. Hamburg, I've not seen Hamburg marathon mentioned much in social media. think that attention has been taken by other marathons. Yeah, you've got to be flying the flag for Hamburg here. Yeah, you wait. Once I've been there and everyone sees how good it is, London's got nothing. Yeah, yeah, next year.
00:02:06
Speaker
10 people into the London That's all London. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two and half million. Have you got demons to battle off the back of Brighton Marathon then, Kieran? You're going to go all out on this one?
00:02:17
Speaker
i' I'll give it another crack, yeah. I mean, Brighton, yeah. I've done three Brightons. every Every time that race, I mean, there's lovely bits about it, but there's some it does something to me psychologically that lasts for about 19 miles on. I'm like, I don't want to ever run again. i quit running about seven times that last four miles. There's a lot of weird mental stuff that goes on with Brighton. The new course where you run past the finish at 30k or something like that, if you're feeling bad at that point, that that that hits you because then you go back out again. And it's a bit better than the old course, but- It's back and forth.
00:02:51
Speaker
It's just back and forth along on the seafront isn't it? no as Well yeah but it's got these windy bits at the start. It's just too risky with Brighton. Like 10km is risky enough with that wind. Yeah.
00:03:02
Speaker
and it was Yeah I mean it was it was kind of alright and then there was just one sort of stretch on the way back where the wind you just couldn't hold pace or it was taking it basically just took too much of me. And i didn't you don't kind of realize it until you hit later on that you've been grinding more than you should.
00:03:17
Speaker
And yeah, it it just did me. So yeah, it's a long way around. Hamburg, hopefully there'll be no wind. It's quite flat. I'll go and give it a crack. Whether I'm in, whether I'm recovered enough to go and do what I want to do, I don't know, but we'll see. are you wearing for Hamburg? Shoes?
00:03:31
Speaker
I'm going to wear, oh yeah, I'm to wear some shoes, yeah. Yeah. I think I'm actually going to go for the Cielo X13. Oh, nice. A bit left field. I did think about the Puma DV8 Nitro 4 Elite as well, but I think the Cielos would be fun. Yeah. I PB'd in the half in them. Yeah, two weeks before PBing again, but they were lot of fun. They were very bouncy. They didn't lose that bounce over 13 miles, so hopefully they won't lose it over. Yeah, we'll go see. Okay. Okay.
Practical Marathon Tips
00:04:10
Speaker
So London Marathon is coming up this weekend. We'll probably have quite a few listeners that are doing it. Have you got any tips? Let's there's do a round robin of tips for London Marathon runners coming up this weekend. Nick, watch your you've always got some good tips. You've done it more than any of us, I think, haven't you? This is my ninth. yeah and I've done more than that.
00:04:27
Speaker
I've done five, I think. Oh, okay. Okay. ah Yeah, done it done it the last nine of 10. No, this will be nine of 10. I missed the year when it was just run it app by yourself virtually. Didn't seem didn't seem worth it. um Tips for London. Well, okay, classic one is if you're in London, get to the expo as soon as you can in the week. get that out the way.
00:04:46
Speaker
would say... think by the time I get this broadcast up, that's probably going to be useless. Yeah. I'd say the big one for that is just be a bit cautious on the downhills in the first half. Take some free speed, but you've got to rein it in. I think at the bottom of those downhills, there's always big crowds. You get excited. You just maintain that pace. Maybe, for example, you run a half marathon PB at London, Kieran, and then...
00:05:09
Speaker
So it's very easy to over excited in the first half of London. i will be and the hardest bit of the race in terms of the actual course, none of it's like really hard. I'd say London, there's just's a few little up hills, but not really bad. But the hardest bits are all kind of late on in like tunnels around embankment and stuff like that. so Yeah, don't get carried away. It's it's one of the hardest races, I think, to a negative split because of that. And it's really easy to get carried away in the first half of London, more than any other marathon I think I've been at. Like, Valencia is quite easy to pace, I feel like. Berlin was very easy to pace, all very flat. London is very easy to go out way too quick. Yeah. And on that note, think one of the big things is and there's sort of stats to back this up, ah the mile after you reach roughly just before the halfway point at Tower Bridge, because you get on Tower Bridge, loads of crowds, really noisy. There's often like the TV helicopters and stuff are up there. And everyone after that mile loses their minds and runs their quickest mile of the marathon. Yeah. and then you suffer for it after. So that's one. I think just enjoy that moment because it's really special, but keep it calm. Don't don't let the adrenaline go too crazy on that bit. And then my other one on that front is when you hit the red tarmac at the finish, so you're going to come into sort of just before bird's cage walk, right? Bird's cage walk. And then you hit the kind of red tarmac and it's really easy to think it's all done then.
00:06:25
Speaker
And I always find if I kick from there, it's just a little bit too soon. So got to go all the way up and around. don't know how far left. It may be like three. Is it? It's a K, I think. It's quite a way. You see like a sign like, because you do the whole birdcage and then once you turn the corner, it's still 200 meters or something. My family's always there. So I'm always distracted quite well. They're to see them because that's they go. So that's quite nice. But yeah, it's and yeah, you're kicking and a sign flashes up saying 800 meters to go. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's a long way. Yeah. Yeah. I would say on the Tower Bridge, it's the closest I think most of us will ever get to being professional sports person. So do drink in the atmosphere because there's properly thousands of people screaming at you. And then, yeah, but like Kieran says, it's a downhill off the bridge. And yeah, you go nuts because you haven't actually halfway yet. So you go nuts to hit halfway. And then it's, yeah, then just suddenly it's Canary Wharf. going, oh, God, so far to go. uh i would say quite similar to yours nick but i've done london a few times now and i've been right in the throng of it like i normally i'm i'm sort of in the 3 30 group um and what i find is that when you when you start off london marathon yeah you've got the sort of downhill bit which you forces you to well you make makes you want to run a little bit faster but there is so much commotion in that first few k people will be pushing pasture people really slow in front of you and it's quite difficult to just stick what your plan is because you either want to overtake those people or you're getting annoyed because people are overtaking you. So I would say, one, get to the right, in the right point of your wave. So don't, if you're going if you're not planning on going really fast, don't go to the front of your wave because you don't benefit from it. planning on going faster, don't get to the back the wave. Either one of those ways you're going get frustrated by it. So just try and get in right bit. But also when you've started, stick to what your plan is. Don't try and change it because you're frustrated or angry, which is generally what do. I'm angry. You're very angry man.
00:08:14
Speaker
I would say actually when you get into that throng rather than constantly trying to fight your way out groups except being a couple of seconds off pace it's gonna be much better for your overall race if you just let it because it does open up a bit you know after a while and if you are zigzagging and it's putting little bursts of speed in yeah like Tom says you are gonna that's just the worst way that's that's not staying on pace it's kind of working harder than your pace I think to get to it so I think you will suffer a lot for that second half yeah you'll lose a lot more than you came by doing that. Yeah. So you can get through that in a 10, you can do it on a 10 K, but not. Yeah. Yeah. You can almost go like, well, it's fine. I'm, I'm basically, I'm not making any effort now. I'm just sitting in this group, even if it's slightly slower pace and knowing that I
Debate on Running Shoes Selection
00:08:53
Speaker
can easily make up this time, try take that mindset. Yeah. I've got one. This will depend on how you're going to run the race and how you feel. And I think London, the names are already printed on the bibs, aren't they? You've put forward a name rather than having to write it on. If you're someone who doesn't want to... Actually, I've got one up here.
00:09:10
Speaker
ah Maybe not. No, maybe... You don't get names at London, i don't think. Oh. No. So if some people write their name on the bib because they want the support. London is so busy. There's so many people. If you know you're not someone who's going to want people shouting your name... four or five hours, whatever you're going to be out there, don't do it because it it can get a bit much. like Some people love it and it'll give you, it'll G you up if you really want that and it'll call it. If you don't leave your name off, don't put it on. Because if you're if you're struggling in that last sort of six, seven miles and you you constantly get it, it can be a bit it could be a bit intense. so I think
00:09:45
Speaker
like I'll not be wrecked by that point. i'd Just yeah leave me alone. I'd say leave your name off as well because there will be a lot of people on the course who will know you and it's not just people who've come to support you because it's London. There will be people there you might not have seen for 20 years who just shout your name, look over and you go and that can distract you for a solid mile going, who was that?
00:09:59
Speaker
And he's like, oh yeah, he went to my primary school. Yeah. Yeah, which is so, yeah, because if your name's not on there and someone shops your name, they do know you. It's worth looking for them. It's quite nice, like you say. yeah, but yeah I think crowds are intense. I don't run with music in London, and I think it's one of those marathons, know, I don't, because it's quite hard to block out that level of sound. But anyway, don't really run with music in marathons. But you have you guys run with open headphones? they Are they even loud enough at London? so In some bits. Some bits. They're not. Okay. So yeah it might want it might be, if you want music, maybe you have to use any headphones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think last year. Definitely not podcast marathon.
00:10:32
Speaker
yeah it's Yeah, it gets wilder every year, I would say. i would also ah worry, not worry too much about the wind forecast. the moment, it's looking like a favourable wind in that it comes from the east, but it's so swirling in London, actually like thinking you can rely on the wind blowing you home or it's going to be really bad. it just doesn't really become a factor, where I find, because the crowd's so big, Canary Wharf, the wind is going in every direction in a way. Unless you want to take a mental positive out and go, oh, i'm going to get blown home now or something like that.
00:10:56
Speaker
it's I think the weather gets a bit overrated in London. Just don't keep looking at it. Because it's UK in spring. It's going to change a lot you know Cloud cover is the only really thing you want, I'd say. And then if race morning, and this is like ah this is an old man get to the airport early kind of tip. Like, get there four hours before. But...
00:11:15
Speaker
I've done it sort of three or four times. I go and I'll arrive probably down in Greenwich around eight o'clock. So I do it. I travel from West London, so I do it. So I get an easy train so it's not crowded on the trains. They can get busy out of Victoria on the way down. I get there early and then I go to Gales in Greenwich.
00:11:34
Speaker
And if you're there early enough, there's a table, there's a toilet, you can get a coffee and you can just sit and chill. how much Kieran's going paid by Gales, Tom? about 15 minutes walk up the hill but if you like to do it and just be relaxed use the code Kieran20 yeah use the code yeah but mainly for the toilet because I've been in there it's a place you could get you can use a proper toilet there's The toilet rule is basically take any opportunity to go to the toilet before. Stand in the queue for the toilet before you need the toilet. Yeah. I'm there super early because the coaches, because I get my club as a coach on and coach parking ends quite early. They have to get there really good. So I am there for like two hours. So the first time I go there, I am literally the first one in the pool to lose in the championship sex. And then usually give it a half an hour go, I'm going to join the queue again now just in case. So at the front you don't have to go you can walk away and join again and back if you want to yeah but i'll just spend a lot time queuing for the toilet because it's yeah certainly certainly a long wait in those starting pens and the other good tip for those is it should be all right this weekend if you're there early and you're changing shoes and stuff It's all grass, London. You wait on the grass and your socks can get wet. Your shoes can get wet. You might want spare a purse. You don't necessarily want start a marathon with wet socks. That's basically what I would say on that. So maybe have some other shoes you're to swap into before you hand your bag over stuff like that and have something to sit on. And there's no shade there either. The starting crowds for London are actually essentially awful. like kind of concentration camps just you're all in a field with no shade and no shelter and yeah but you know just got to make your own kind of shelter and don't get too wet nice good well that's plenty of tips for people running london marathon so um good luck if you are running london marathon and big positive vibes for our friend of the podcast george lewis we interviewed last week he'll be doing it and he's looking like he's gonna get a pretty good time but His big rival from the world of comedy, Dave Masterman, who's injured.
00:13:30
Speaker
So they were going to be racing. we looks i don't know I don't know what's going to happen with Dave. Dave from the Ellis James and John Robbins podcast. John Robbins is also running. Another big comedy name who hasn't got him on our podcast. We don't support him. Yeah. If you if you are a yeah comedian and you would like to go and talk to us about your running experiences, please shoot us an email because ah we like talking to you guys. yeah um Right. Okay. So ah good luck if you're running the marathon. Right. Shall we start picking some top 10 shoes? Here we go.
00:13:59
Speaker
Let's do it.
Criteria for Top 10 Running Shoes
00:14:08
Speaker
This, we're going to have a bit of fun in this in this video and and podcast. This is an idea that me and Kieran came up with. I think it was your idea, Kieran. You sort of had the basis of it. Passing the buck immediately for this. Yeah, yeah. I said the stupid idea. I said, yeah, fine, we'll do it, Kieran. Yeah, don't do it. Whatever you do, don't do this. I can't remember what the exact idea you had was. But basically what going to do is we're going to go through a load of shoes and we're going to discuss which ones we would put into our top 10 of shoes that you need to know about at the moment. We're not saying that these are the only good shoes out there. We're not saying that you shouldn't look at all the other options that we review on the channel. We're going to pick 10 that we think are really good options. So if you're going to pick one of these pairs of shoes, we pretty much guarantee that you're getting a good pair of shoes. So it's like Noah's Ark of shoes, right? But we've got 15 minutes to choose 10 shoes to put on the Ark. Yeah, it's never going to work. I don't think Noah didn't let some animals on the Ark. He did all on, didn't he? Wait, need two of each on? If there's any more. of each, yeah. We're not doing two of each shoe we're letting on. I guess it kind of works. They have to go in pairs, right? You can't have the Metaspeed Sky Tokyo and the Metaspeed Edge Tokyo. They're too close. don't know what we're going to do on that one. Already, don't know what we're going to on that one,
00:15:21
Speaker
but Anyway, let's say how many shoes there is now so some people can turn off the podcast. I have got a list of 69 pairs of shoes. 69 shoes. How this is going to work is we're going to have round one I'm just going to go through these shoes very quickly and you guys are going to tell me if we keep it in the list or we get rid of it. Right. And hopefully by the end of round one, we should have whittled the list down. Bear in mind that by the end of this, we should only have 10 shoes. So you've got to be pretty strict on this. We can't debate every shoe.
00:15:50
Speaker
And you should have assume that you both will have shoes in your head anyway that you're like, well, I'm definitely going to put that one in. Nick's got to get to the London Marathon on Sunday morning. I was going to say that. We've got an event tomorrow, Kieran. We'll still be going. I'm going to spot straight away that we need to make this 70 shoes because you've only put in one version of the On Cloud Monster 3 Hyper and there's only one of them I want to keep. So we'll have to discuss that. Oh yeah, because you've got the other. There's to be a few of those. Yeah, if we start discussing different offers and stuff of shoes, we're never going to finish this list. you remember when we tried to do what the best running shoes are? And was 40 minutes of utter courage. Yeah. But people seem to like that. They seem to like us arguing. That's true, yeah. Are there three votes, basically? And then...
00:16:34
Speaker
I think in this first one, we just want to try and get as many out as we can, right? Ideally, we have none left after this. We don't want to discuss it. We don't want to discuss it. um It's going to be tough, though. right it's Ten absolute best. Okay, I'll be pretty harsh. We've just got to be strict on this. okay and you do know you all these you will know You could probably write a list of ten at the moment, so it shouldn't be as hard as you think.
00:16:55
Speaker
So let's start there. So round one, I'm going to go through all of these shoes and we're going to very quickly decide if keep them or not. So the first shoe is the Adidas Adizero Adios Pro 4. No. No. Okay, good. Adidas Adizero Evo SL. Yes. Yeah.
00:17:10
Speaker
Okay. You finally got a hold of it, Kieran. I've got it. It arrived today. They sent it to me today. I got some today and I thought you might have finally got it, yeah. What have you got? The stand of the original? Yeah, they sent it to the original, not the woven one, weirdly. Yeah, but anyway.
00:17:22
Speaker
Kieran, here he is. The hottest shoe of 2024 climbing on his feet. Adidas Adazero Pro Evo 2. No. No. Okay. Boston 13. No. No.
00:17:33
Speaker
not Hyperboost Edge. No.
00:17:38
Speaker
If it's a maybe, we can... we can know No, no. We're allowed maybes? We'll have something round two, right? Well, I'll put a maybe in and then if it's a maybe, it'd probably be pretty easy to get rid of it. 69 shoes, this one rubs your ankles. That's true, no. Kieran's right. Kieran's right. Okay, so we'll get rid of it. Okay, now, ASICS, the gel, Cumulus 27. Yes, yes. 100%.
00:18:00
Speaker
That's it. Stop the video. It's done. We're done here. We're finished. Good. Finally. Jell Kearno 32. It's good job Mike's are here because he'd be fighting for this one. No Kearno's. Okay. Jell Nimbus 28. No. Ooh. Okay.
00:18:13
Speaker
Asics Megablast. Yes. Yeah. Got to be. ASICs METASPEED EDGE TOKYO. ah See, i I love all three of the ASICs. I can't put all three through. Kieran, you were your PB in the second round. Yeah, i I would say yes to this one. But I would i would also probably say i don't think i don't really necessarily distinguish too much between this one and the the the other one. SKY.
00:18:35
Speaker
Let's put them all through. I'll keep that one in. METASPEED RAE. Yes. No. After a Brighton's disaster. METASPEED SKY TOKYO. Yes. hear that one. Yes.
00:18:48
Speaker
Nova Blast 5. Ooh. I'm always recommending this shoe. It's my go-to recommendation because it's so good for people who start running. So I think yes. Okay. Asics Sonic Blast. It's no for me. Yes.
00:19:01
Speaker
I've not tried it, to to put that as a maybe. Super Blast 3. No. I don't think it would make my top 10, but I think we should put it through the first round. Maybe, because I don't think God, ASIC's clearing up here. ah Brooks Ghost 17. No.
00:19:14
Speaker
No. No. Brooks Ghost Max 3. No. Brooks Glycerin 23. Not tested. No, I'm not putting it in. No. Brooks Glycerin Flex. No. Okay. Okay.
00:19:26
Speaker
Brooks Glycerin Max 2. No. Max 1. Yes. Yeah, I have to throw the results. Shame that. Brooks Hyperion Elite 5. Oh, I think it's going to no because I just think it's too many carbon racers.
00:19:39
Speaker
Don't mind it. Don't mind it being a maybe. I'm saying no, so... Okay. Brooks Hyperion Max 3. No, I didn't like that one very much. No. Is that you liked? you like the previous model, Kieran?
00:19:50
Speaker
You like the first model. Yeah, I like i like the to the two, I think it was, but the three's sort of changed. It was sort completely different shoe, felt like. Yeah, what was the first one like? that That was bit more leaner, wasn't it? The first one had that midsole, didn't it? It wasn't really a max, was it?
00:20:07
Speaker
No. it wasn't max stacked? No, it had like a blue and yellow. yeah Anyway, Hocker Bondi 9. No. No. Hocker Cielo X1 3.0. think we can put it through. Yeah. i I'm putting that through, yeah. Clifton 10.
00:20:22
Speaker
i said It's been a bit of Nova Blast for me. It's i was really solid. Recommend it a lot. and don't think it's going to make the final 10, is the only thing. So do we just... think it's a maybe. Yeah. I don't think we're going to struggle to to get rid of the maybes, though. Hocker Max 7. I love the Max 7. Yeah.
00:20:36
Speaker
Yeah. Good. Hocker Max X3. Oh, I like that. Yeah, I would put that in. I do like Meshul a lot as well. Yeah, put it through, Tom. Okay, Hocker Rocket X3.
00:20:50
Speaker
Oh, we can't put both through. This yellow and the rocket. No, yeah, say no we got to start coming. We can discuss that in round two. That's true. We've leave some meat on the bone, Tom. It's only quarter to eight. Yeah, I It's a good kind of accessible, more democratic.
00:21:03
Speaker
Well, the nice round two is about discussing the the details. So Hocker Skyward X. Two. Is it two? It's two now. I've been testing lately. and I have really enjoyed running in it so far, so I would say yes.
00:21:16
Speaker
not running it so I don't is it on the way for you Kieran no I don't think so it's um okay that's good to know in terms of if I get to review or not okay it's dental to the podcast Kiprun Kipride Max I know Kieran's going to want to put this yes yeah Kiprun Kipstorm Elite no no Kiprun Kipstorm Tempo oh it's a yes it's a big yes from me big early favourite here Mizuno Hyperwap Elite Not for me.
00:21:45
Speaker
Hyperwarp Pure? Yes. Yeah, I'd put that on there. Parkrun PB'd in that show the weekend, lads. they What? Parkrun PB'd in that show at the weekend. Did you? Yeah. I saw, yeah. Was it Gunners Brew Pot? Gunpowder. Gunpowder, that's it. The Gunpowder Plot. Bizuno Neo Vista 2?
00:22:02
Speaker
No. no Bizuno Neo Zen 2? Kieran's going to say yes, I know, but no. No, I'm not in that. New Balance 1080 V15 yes yes please don't like that I don't like that she but fine I'll tell you what I've got in here that I didn't spot the New Balance Balos I thought why is that still in there but i know you're a bit obsessed with this i want to I don't want to comment on it but no Tom you can't buy that sheet I'll take that ah the New Balance More V6 I'll leave that out no Rebel V5 yes yeah yeah go on then I think SC Elite no not for me
00:22:38
Speaker
s SC Trainer V3? ah I did like it. It's bit long in the teeth. I think there's too many better options for me. I liked it, but I don't think it will make the final turn for sure. yeah Nike Half-Fly 3?
00:22:50
Speaker
Still got to keep the Half-Fly 3 in, haven't you? I mean, i'm not I'm not picking it for, it yeah, go and put it through, but going to about why I'm not picking it for the top 10 later. None of us tried the Nike Pegasus 42. No, was on the list in many ways, Tom. Because you because ah the list I pulled from had 41 on it, so I just updated 42. Nice. Neither will I, so we can ignore that. You've just saved yourself a decision.
00:23:10
Speaker
um Now it's the tough ones. Nike Pegasus Plus. Pegasus, no no, these aren't tough. Pegasus Premium definitely not not really Pegasus Premium is not a good shoe it's the Vamera Premium that's good not have the Structure Plus haven't tried Structure Plus i've tried I've tried that but no Vaporfly 4? No. No.
00:23:31
Speaker
No. Vermeer 18? See, we're going to get trouble here because, again, I've tested the plus, Kieran's tested 18, me mem Mike have both tested the premium. it's fine. if If you really think it's good, we'll put it through. Oric, we'll whack them all through if Kieran wants the 18 through.
00:23:44
Speaker
Yeah, I like the 18. Okay. So were we are going to have a big debate on this next bit. Nike, Vermeer plus. Yeah. Nike Vemero Premium. We can put it through. It's a fun shoe to talk about and then we'll get rid of it.
00:23:55
Speaker
Okay. Zoom Fly 6. Oh, that's a really good shoe, actually. it? Yeah. It's Nike's best shoe, probably. and Yeah, we'll put it through. But again, I'll be on my own, so might have to get rid of it. We're not. I've got few On Cloud Surfer 2. No.
00:24:09
Speaker
No. On Cloud Surfer Max. No. No. Pumidiviet Nitro. Normal. Normal. No. Nitro Elite. Four. I mean, it's as good as some of the ones we've put through, I think. ah What do you think, Pieran?
00:24:23
Speaker
Yeah, i quite like it. I'd put it through. i think it'd make it through. I think it's a... Let's get it free. Deserves the credit of a second round appearance. we've now got Vastar 3. Yes. yeah Forever on Nitro 2. No. Magma's on Nitro 2. No.
00:24:36
Speaker
Magnify Nitro 3. It's good, but no. Okay. Puma Velocity RJ 4. Yes, please. Yes, please. All right, some of these I haven't got a clue about. Salomon Aeroglide 4. Oh, we've got the gravel on the list, Tom.
00:24:50
Speaker
Let's go through the gravel, right, Kieran? If it's the gravel, I'm going for it If it's the regular four, I wasn't sold. It's going to be the gravel, Tom, please. Is the gravel going to make it to... The gravel might get quite far. Okay.
Narrowing Down the Shoe List
00:25:00
Speaker
I'll put the gravel in. I've tested the gravels on. do like it. Salomon Esselad Phantasm 3.
00:25:05
Speaker
no its No, it's all right. yeah One for Kieran. Sockany Endorphin Azura. Yes. Don't mind that going through. like it, yeah. Okay. Sockany Endorphin Elite 2. I'm having that. Having that, the three's already all over Instagram now. i think we're behind on that. Can't buy it though, can you?
00:25:20
Speaker
Can't you? No. Okay, I'll leave it same for It's not going to get into the top ten anyway. Sockery, Endorphin Speed, five. Yes. Yeah. Sockery, Hurricane, 25. Not for me.
00:25:31
Speaker
No. I'll leave that out because I'm going to put it in top ten. On Cloud Monster High at three hyper normal? Not tried. I don't think so. Okay. LS? LS should go three.
00:25:43
Speaker
Okay. And just the On Cloud Monster? No. Three? No.
00:25:54
Speaker
Right, so we've got 31 shoes to whittle down. Wow. It's not It's not brilliant. but So I say straight away, I'm going to take out the Sonic Blast. That was just Kieran's, wasn't it? Yeah. Super Blast 3 I'm going to take out because that's not going in my top 10. It's not going in my top 10. I doubt it's going in yours.
00:26:08
Speaker
Fair enough. Hockey Clifton 10. We'll take that one out. Yeah, yeah. So now we are down to 28 shoes. We've got to get rid of 18 shoes from this. Fine. Easy. We've got got ah definitely got some weak hands in there. We can't look through. Okay. ASICs, METSPEED, EDGE, TOKYO, SKY, TOKYO, METSPEED, REI. We've got to consolidate the edge in the sky, I think. yeah And I think they deserve to go through.
00:26:28
Speaker
I think the edge in the sky should go through, it yeah. Yeah, I think they're proven winners, those. Okay, I agree. Okay, so I'll take out. edge just play for those so do we want ah so we want the ray and the and the tokyo in the final 10 so see i love the ray i have not a map but i've got my 10k and half marathon pb in it so i'm a staunch i am running london at this weekend my view might change given that kieran's views changed a bit after the marathon but i'm still putting it through right now but i also don't want to bring back the trauma of brighton to kieran okay the tricky bit here is we've got the mega blast the meta speed ray the meta speed sky koto and the nova blast five we can't have all over in the final 10.
00:27:06
Speaker
Well, it's best shoes, Tom. It's best shoes. Well, you could. I don't think Noblast. I mean, Noblast you're going up against. What else does it know that we've got? this Daily shoe. New Balance 1080 New Balance Rebel V5. I'd probably say Rebel V5 I wouldn't have in the final 10.
00:27:21
Speaker
I would drop the Rebel V5 myself, but I haven't run Comrades in it. No. Yeah, I mean, i i mean i I really like I get on with it really well. I find it quite versatile. But then, yeah, this is where we'll get down. Because I i probably, i wouldn't pick it up. Let's get our locks through. Should get a locks through? All of us agree. No, let's go. And if there's 10 of those, probably sold. Yeah. Evo Sells a lock for three of Megabast has got to be a lock.
00:27:44
Speaker
I'd lock the Megabast in, yeah. Meta Speed Ray and Sky Tokyo. I'd probably only lock in the edge of the sky. Yeah. That sounds good. Nova Blast 5. I just don't think Nova Blast 5... It's lock, I think. It's not lock. Could we have some kind of padlock a symbol on the screen we could use, Tom, maybe? Maybe an animation?
00:28:01
Speaker
I could do this. I could make like a crab-style pincer motion with my hands. Don't worry about the ah animations that go on the screen. I think is what's going really bring it to life for the people at home. Lots of different metaphors. want see putting them in a safe and locking it. i want to see you locking it and yeah in jail. want to see... The safe is full of crabs pintering it to lock it in further. Actually throwing it into a lock.
00:28:24
Speaker
Lockness. Can we use that? Lockness, second place. A little lockness monster's head popping up at some point. He's wearing a padlock chain. All right. I'll see the X1 3.0. don't think it's lock, Tom. No, it's not lock, is it? I don't think it's a lock, is it? Huckamack7, is that a lock?
00:28:40
Speaker
That's a shoe that I love every time I'm running in it, but it just doesn't seem to be widely appreciated. So I'm i'm i'm hesitant to lock it, okay even though I love it. There's a lot of hawkers in here. the Mach 3, the Rocket X3. Which one do you have for Rocket X3 or the Cielo X1 3.0?
00:28:55
Speaker
a aye The Cielo X1 is closer to a lock for me. Yeah, Cielo. I'd probably go Cielo over... ah So then you've just got the Skyward X2, the Hocker Mac X3, and the Hocker Mac 7. I wouldn't say they're locked. The rocket sounds like lock it, though, doesn't it? So maybe that should be factored in, Tom. No, it shouldn't.
00:29:13
Speaker
We should probably kill the Skyward because only one of us is running it. Yeah, and I've not even finished testing. yeah Good, okay. Unlock that, Tom. i've not I've not locked it. ah So then we've got Tempo and the KitRide Max.
00:29:27
Speaker
i think the Tempo's a lock. Tempo's a lock, isn't it? Piper Wap Pure. Just don't how carbon tubes we lock at this point. No, i wouldn't I wouldn't have the pure as... It's not as... You can't do every... day ah Yeah, I wouldn't. You picked the ray over the pure, right? It's not the essential 10, is it? I didn't lock the ray, famously, so I can't lock the pure. right ah we Well, getting rid of the pure, then.
00:29:49
Speaker
Well, don't know what the lock get rid of equation is here, Tom. i but I'm just talking locks. we lock all ah ah The lock is basically we have to have them. So if we end up with like eight locks, then we've got two other shoes to play with. Let's get through the locks, then, yeah. Okay. New balance 1080 V15.
00:30:02
Speaker
so I wouldn't lock that. I wouldn't, but you guys would like it. i I love it. I would swap it, and if we're locking it, I'd swap it for the Kipride Max. We haven't locked the Kipride Max, have we?
00:30:13
Speaker
No. We locked the tempo. m I wouldn't lock the Kipride Max either is the problem. Okay, okay. Come back to these, Tom. If you guys both want to lock the 1080 v15, we can lock it. We can just maybe put, when we're doing your animations, Tom, maybe put an asterisk next to it, and I would be unlocking it in some kind of GIF. Are you doing all this? Are you noting this down? I've ignored everything you said about locks. New Balance Rebel V5. Should we get rid of that?
00:30:36
Speaker
we I think that we... cool We weren't going to lock it but i don't think we were going to get rid of it. Okay. Half-fly 3. Not locking that We're not locking it. No. Where are 18? No. No. no like Vivera Plus. I would lock the Plus, but I'm the only one who's tested it. That's the problem.
00:30:50
Speaker
That's the problem, guys. It's fine. If you really feel strongly about it, can lock it. Nike Vivera Premium. We're not locking that, no. no Nike Zim 5.6, you're not locking that, are you? Not locking that. Pumet V8 Nisleet 4. I don't think I'm locking that. I'm not locking that.
00:31:04
Speaker
Puma Fast Star 3. You are locking that I think that's a locker one. That's a locker. Ooh, lockers. Could they come into the animation? Yeah. What, opening a lot like in a school? You open it, it's full shoes, you lock it.
00:31:16
Speaker
Yeah. I think you're overestating my ability to do animations. This is what AI is for, isn't it, Tom? That's true, yeah. We can use it. Puma Velocity 904. Gotta go. Lock.
00:31:27
Speaker
ah yeah like we we we do love it i mean ah i mean we're feeling ah we're locking it over potentially better shoes but in terms of value and everything is yeah how many locks we got tom open the locker how many shoes are in there if i don't do that one we've got six locks yeah oh that's four debatable so what are the locks how many i did that's evo sl good luck that mega blast yeah Sky and Edge.
00:31:51
Speaker
Gibson Senpou. Cool. These are good shoes. This working. You'd hope. Verbera Plus. I hate being out on a solo lock. I don't like that. Puma Fast R. They're all the locks.
00:32:04
Speaker
Now, where are the Chinese shoes, Tom? They will be added when we do another version of this when I've got some.
00:32:11
Speaker
So we've got four spaces. How do you say lock in Chinese? That's a good question. I'm not looking that up. You could just look at the calligraphy for it, maybe, Tom. Could you animate that? Okay. so So we've got people lost in 2004. Then we get into the Salem Aero Glide for gravel.
00:32:26
Speaker
Oh, it's not a lock for me. I don't think. not lock. We've done all. lock but what how many How many have we got left to pick for for these final four spots? Only five. Can we do some kind of... Well, we've gone through a lot that we've got and we might have to go back to, right?
00:32:38
Speaker
Do we need to knock out some stuff, basically? Yeah, there's 19 that we've we've got to go through. Oh, right, okay. No, so we've got more to carry on through. Sorry, yeah, carry on. Yeah, so there's ah yeah there's the Salomon Aero-Glad Gravel, so that's not getting locked. There's the Sockony Endorphin Elite 2. I'll get rid of that. That's not going to be top 10.
00:32:56
Speaker
Sockony Endorphin Speed 5. I don't think that would top 10. don't think that's a lock anymore. Imagine that, how the landscape has changed. yeah It's not just got a bit old, isn't it? It's a great shoe, but it's... I can't lock it.
00:33:07
Speaker
And then the only other one is the On Cloud Monster 3 Hyper-LS. we lock the Azura? I would the Azura. think that's a great shoe. I forgot the Azura, yeah. you want lock the Azura? I wouldn't lock the Azura, but if Kieran feels strongly, i don't might't hate the Azura being locked. I don't want to lock the On Cloud Monster 3 Hyper-LS. I think we can rule that. It's 280 pounds.
00:33:27
Speaker
As much as I've enjoyed it. So the Azura is... What have we got left? We've got 20 shoes to go through to see if they might get in these last four spots, Tom. We now have... lot of this can be animated, I think.
00:33:39
Speaker
Yeah. In total, we've got 25 shoes and... 25 still to go through? that That includes the locks.
00:33:49
Speaker
I don't want to worry anyone. 18 to clear out. tuck The flood is rising. The boat. No one didn't take this long. We're going to have to be. Well, we're at 22 minutes now. Okay. We're going 18 into four. To sort out the best 10 shoes.
00:34:05
Speaker
So we've got 18 for four spots, Tom. Should we do this as a head-to-head? Yeah. All right. So, well, I just run through these. So we've got the Ray. We're keeping the Ray because we've got the Ray. Got too many carbon shoes in the top 10, I think. got the Ray, the CLO X1 3.0 and the Pure and Alpha Fly. Get rid the Alpha Fly, we? Get rid of the Alpha Fly, yeah. I'm not sure I'd lock any of those carbon shoes.
00:34:30
Speaker
No, we don't want to make this like a carbon shoe. We've already got couple of good carbon shoes in. Yeah. The Fast R3 and the Met Speed. Yeah, they're the best locks, I think.
00:34:41
Speaker
The Johns, if you will. So do you want to get rid of the Ray? I don't think we put any of those in would be my gut instinct yeah to this top ten. yeah Okay, good, good. I like that. So we're not having a Hoka shoe in the race.
00:34:55
Speaker
I'm sorry? in in the yeah we're We're not having a final Hoka race shoe in the list. In the top ten. is that is that Is that okay? It seems okay. We haven't got quite a few brand of race shoes. Yeah, okay. To be honest, I would probably use the Asics Metsui Sky Tokyo over that anyway. Okay.
00:35:10
Speaker
yeah those races we could put it on a standby if you want to keep it just about and and get rid of the rain we've got a little standby list what the animation for that be is the question Nova Blast 5 I'm saying in the final list yeah alright kill it I'd have that i'd have i'd have the 1080 V15 over the Nova Blast all alright so going for that then let's lock the 1080 now okay ah even though with the asterisk animation Tom Yeah, don't worry that don't worry about those animations. It'll be all sorted. Yeah, that could be Asterix the Gorn. We now have eight.
00:35:43
Speaker
Eight in the final list. We need two more. We've eight now? Yeah. How do we get to eight? Because I've just added 1080 V15 and... Have we gone through all the shoes? ah thought we on yet I thought we only had six. Let me do an update of the shoes then.
00:35:57
Speaker
The Adizir Evo SL. Locked, fine. Mega Blast. Fine. Sky and Edge. Yeah. yeah That's one shoe though, right, Tom? We're getting... That's just one, yeah. yeah yeah it's Sky Nedge. Kip Storm Tempo.
00:36:09
Speaker
Yeah. New Balance TNT V15. Five. sorry Yeah, okay. Nike Vimera Plus. Okay. Solo Lock. Fumafast R3. Okay, yeah, we have got seven. All right. And there's like the Endorphin Azura now.
00:36:20
Speaker
Yeah. Okay, so so two spots left. We've got two spots left. So what with the choices you got are the New Balance Rebel V5, I think we've taken the Azura and a couple of other shoes over it essentially for me. yeah We're not having the Hyper 4 Pure. Okay, Vermeer 18.
00:36:35
Speaker
um Go on. What, you want me to keep going? Yeah, go on. What else have we got? mepe so Nike's line-up, you've got Vermeer 18. We got rid of the premium, Tom. Get rid of that. Okay. okay so you've got So you've just got the Vermeer 18 and the Zoomfly 6. Okay.
00:36:49
Speaker
Can't have two Vermeeris. Not running the Zoomfly 6. I don't mind the 18 going because the 10-8, I think Vermeeril 18, are interchangeable fairly and I think the 10-18 is a good shoe so I'm happy to kill the Vermeeril 18. Zoomfly 6 is really good but I think there are better super trainers that we've already got in so I don't think we should put that in. Okay, good. This is great. um We'll get rid of the Puma Deva Nitro League 4 because we don't have another ratio in there. We've already got Puma ratio in there. ah Puma Velocity Nitro 4. Well, I'd probably lock. At this point, as the sun completely sets, I'd probably lock.
Finalizing the Top 10 Shoe List
00:37:26
Speaker
that's It's good to have a good cost-effective shoe in that list, I suppose. I think then we've got then we've got a trio of good, reliable options there in the 1080, even though I'm not a huge fan, the Femero Plus and the Puma as actual daily trainers that people ah one of all runners can use.
00:37:42
Speaker
Okay, so the only ones we' got left now are the Salomon Aeroglide 4 Gravel. Oh, what a shock that would be, making the final 10. If you're looking for variety the 10, if you're looking for variety in there and a good, versatile shoe that can go off-road a bit, it's got a place in the 10.
00:38:00
Speaker
It's one of my favourite... Cushion shoes for the start. You wildcard? I mean, I like it. I really like it. even though What's the other one we've got left, Tom? So we've got the the um Endorphin Speed 5, which you can't have Resolve the Azor, I'd say.
00:38:14
Speaker
No, I can't have those. Both of those, no. Okay, so we'll get rid of the Spy at 5. Kieran's wants the Azor. And then we've got the On Cloud Monster 3 Hyper LS. No, it's too expensive. Final list. So the only one we've got less is the Gravel. Geist, to have the gravel ahead of somebody. Oh, and the Kip Ride Max, but we're getting rid of that, aren't no, we've got some, um we've still got the Hockamac 7 and Hockamac X3. So of those, I'd say the three I'd be picking be the Kip Ride Max, Max 7, and the gravel. I'd probably lose the Max X3 myself.
00:38:41
Speaker
Okay. so Those are three good shoes. And they're very our taste shoes. They're not, I'd say, as widely beloved on the market. All right. So basically, you've got to choose now between the Huggermack 7, the Kiprun Kipride Max, and the Aeroglide 4 Gravel.
00:38:57
Speaker
Oh, that's tough. That is tough. If I could only have one shoe out of those shoes, I'm good i'm good to i'm going to go and get pride, Max. See, I think that's the first one I'd lose.
00:39:09
Speaker
I think i it's for me it's between the Mack and the Gravel. um I've not tried any of those apart from the Gravel, so I'm to have fight this out between you. I mean, the one in the middle would be the gravel.
00:39:21
Speaker
So if I'm going to... If we remove the two on the outside... Do you want to go for the gravel? That would be a... That's good point, Kieran. Let's do secondary ballots. Yeah. I would probably go... probably go... know, might go gravel first of those.
00:39:35
Speaker
So I think if you're putting it second on your ballot... Yeah. I think... Wow. Although, ah would I put the Kipride second on that? No, probably wouldn't. I'd probably put the Max 7 ahead of it on my ballot. um Okay. Yeah,
00:39:47
Speaker
The gravel is just a shoe that you can run pretty much anywhere in Anyone can enjoy but If you just do a straight road run, it's one of the best cushioned shoes, I think. fair lot And run off-road.
00:39:59
Speaker
So i do we need to justify this bit because it's a pretty incredible top ten, and then there's the gravel. But I think it's great. And if you know if you're making a rotation of shoes, it's one of the best options you have for your all-rounder easy-day shoe because of that grip.
00:40:14
Speaker
Yeah. When we're on the arc, by the way, just to keep that analogy going, it rains on deck. yeah need You're going to need something with a bit gravel. gravel's going to do you a grab good job running around in circles. I'll tell you something else, Kieran. You know what the gravel's got? Quick lock laces. Yeah, that I don't like. You don't? But it will really help Tom out with his animations. Maybe the animation could be you pulling those laces, Tom, as a little hint to the final. People are watching this and they see the absolute awful attempt at animations that are stuck on. It's Tom screen recording him on paint. Right. i'm Okay. put I'm putting it out there. I don't think anyone's still watching at this point. Certainly not. Certainly not. I've tuned out long ago. i' see how Yeah, a look at the yeah the engagement graph. I think i think at the point we start talking about the gravel shoe. What is going on here?
00:41:02
Speaker
some Just some men saying shoe names. We did that five minutes. Are we definitely ruling out the gel cumulus? ah yeah no Yeah, we are. have the New Balance Balos, Tom?
00:41:12
Speaker
ah Yeah, right. Anyway, right. So I'm going to run through the final list. So we have got in our list of 10 shoes worth looking at at the moment, not necessarily the best shoes at at the moment, but the ones we think you should look at um are the Adidas Adizero Evo SL. Locked. The ASICS Megablast. Locked. The ASICS Metaspeed Sky and Edge Tokyo.
00:41:33
Speaker
Double lock. The Kiprun Kipstorm Tempo. Great shoe. Locked right in. New Balance 1080 V15. Yeah, an unwilling lock. I'm grudging. He's grudging. I love it. love it as well. Nike Vimero Plus. Solo lock. Apologies. Puma Fast R3. Yes. Great shoe. It's a lock, yeah. Puma Lost to the Nitro 4.
00:41:53
Speaker
Good value lock. Salomon Aeroglide 4 Gravel. Unexpected lock. unexpected And finally, the Sockney Endorphin Azora. That is our list of 10 shoes worth looking at at the moment. and What a journey that was. We'll see you in the comments. know. Please, if youve if we've missed anything out, ah don't. Just comment. I can't go through this again. What you really want to see is your list of 69 shoes. Yeah. And then next podcast, we'll do another one with your list. How about that? We've got to this with Mike anyway, it might change slightly. That's true, yeah. What would Mike have locked? If you're right now, you're typing, what about the Dynafish, Showney, and Dimeball, and Kevin? Yeah, like, yeah, maybe. i am I am buying some of these shoes. are Just struggling to get hold of all of them, though, but there will be there will be some on the channel at some point. I'm to say the reason i'm not buying these shoes is ah ah my main job as a journalist, they they don't want me reviewing Chinese shoes. So I've got to spend more time, I think, reviewing the shoes. I'll take a hit for the comments to get these shoes in. and yeah I can't get mine through the straight and four moves.
00:42:53
Speaker
That's true, actually. No wonder the prices have gone up. I've looked on AliExpress. The prices are going up. They're now kind of equivalent to just shoes on sale here, which interesting. Yeah, yeah. And the ones that everyone wants are really hard to get now. People in the comments are saying, oh, I got it from this shop, but they're not like trusted shops. I don't really want to spend 150 quid on a shoe from a shop, which I'm not entirely sure going turn up.
00:43:16
Speaker
Good. Okay. So there we go. That's our top 10. It's not even a tournament, was It was just a... I thought we were doing a tournament when I arrived. Well, that was ago we can't we can't do a tournament for this list because if you put you know if you do like put one shoe against the other and you end up eventually with final list of shoes, it's not fair, is it? Because you you'll put like you might put two great shoes next to each other. there That's the nature of tournament football, Tom. good teams get knocked out early well this this is this is the for the for next time i want to make a suggestion about the format we need a bag two bags of balls yeah with shoe names on them yeah and we're gonna be picking out and it's a random head-to-head yeah yeah well we can do this as a tournament and it it will just be what's the what's the final just imagine the gravel giant killing the deviate nitro elite four in the in the quarters what a moment In fact, we will do that.
Future Plans and Conclusion
00:44:01
Speaker
We will do the shoe tournament. No one expects a Salomonero-Groi Grable. They've got a really strong home support. Very small pitch. Very hard to play on. It's one of those AstroTel pitches. I am pleased the Grable's in there. QPR plastic pitch. Bodo Glimps. the Bodo Glimps. Okay, that will do, I think.
00:44:18
Speaker
Right, well, that the list. Do you want to do another 20 minutes? I don't want to do another 20 minutes on this. We'll do Trail Shoes next week. Will we? No, Trail Shoes. We won't know the answers. That's true, yeah. Right, so that's it from us. Thanks a lot for, if you if you've made it this far, I'm presuming you're having it piped in somewhere and you can't turn it off. You're restrained. Falling asleep and woken up in the morning and it's still going. You've fallen on your run and your your headphones are playing it just out of reach. I'm going say now, by the way, if I PB in the Metaspeed Race weekend, I'm coming back and that's getting a lot. Yeah. Well, thanks for listening to the most niche podcast ever. um ah We will be back soon with another podcast and loads more videos. Thanks a lot for listening and watching and we'll catch you next time. See you.
00:45:04
Speaker
Bye.
00:45:07
Speaker
This episode of the podcast was presented by Tom Wheatley, Nick Harris-Fry and Kieran Alga. The podcast was produced by Tom Wheatley. The music was by Fear of Tigers.