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Talk Sauce #102 - Ketchup Hot Dog

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63 plays · Jul 7, 2025

The boys get togethher for their annual Fourth of July Podcast

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Jack Gardner: Yeah, baby.

boboballew: Can you believe it? a whole year.

Jack Gardner: We're back. It's been over a year. I looked at it. Last time was May 2024. Oh,

boboballew: No, no, it's because you came to New York in July.

Jack Gardner: oh so the live one was the last one then.

boboballew: we just didn't put it on Spotify.

Jack Gardner: We didn't?

boboballew: i guess not because it's on YouTube.

Jack Gardner: Are you sure? Whoa, hold on.

boboballew: What was that?

Jack Gardner: Let me confirm this. ah some like YouTube short.

boboballew: Because it's certainly on YouTube.

Jack Gardner: Wow, we never put that. Yeah, you're right. ah hunt That's kind of funny. i I meant to put that on Spotify.

boboballew: It shows where we've been with this podcast for the last year.

Jack Gardner: I guess we never did. yeah Yeah, we're sorry to the to the fans, um but we still are the podcast for TalkSauce.

boboballew: By TalkSauce. I was trying to remember who said what part of that.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, I think it varies from time to time, but I'm glad that we we were able to land on it. um Yeah, it's pretty crazy, dude. i can't believe it's been... we we went from like a weekly podcast to...

Jack Gardner: Like monthly.

boboballew: To like quarterly.

Jack Gardner: now Now we're over annually at this point.

boboballew: Yeah,

Jack Gardner: We could just make it 4th of July podcast now.

boboballew: yeah

boboballew: Dude, we need to do one um before your wedding.

Jack Gardner: Yes, definitely.

boboballew: Oh, dude. Dude, yeah, we definitely should.

Jack Gardner: Oh, that's a good idea.

boboballew: Yeah, I don't want to spoil.

Jack Gardner: We'll have to yeah, yeah. We've got a plot. We've got a plot a little bit.

boboballew: But it's a great idea.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, it is a really good idea.

boboballew: um Yeah, it's crazy how because I remember last time you were in New York, we did the podcast and you were like, I'm going to propose soon and all this stuff. And then now it's like coming up.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, well, it's it's I've been engaged since August of last year now.

boboballew: It's crazy.

Jack Gardner: So it's I've been engaged for like basically a year, too.

boboballew: Yeah, because because um you were in New York and you're like, we're going to go to Mexico in like a month or however long and then I'm going to propose.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, here we are. Yeah, because I was originally going to propose in like October, but then our plans changed. And then we had like a really cool trip planned for August, and i was like okay, I've got to do it now.

boboballew: Yeah, you got to do it the cool trip.

Jack Gardner: And I was talking to you, because I was like pretty decided on doing it, but you were the first person I talked to about it. And I was like, yeah, you're like, no.

boboballew: And I was like, don't do it, man.

boboballew: And you didn't listen for some reason.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, I didn't listen. I ignored him.

boboballew: Yeah, but that's crazy. It's been a year.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, but I guess we should let the fans know that we've still been staying in constant communication with each other.

boboballew: like

boboballew: No, this is the first time we've talked in a year.

Jack Gardner: The the relationship.

boboballew: Yeah,

Jack Gardner: Yeah, I was actually just thinking about i was talking to Alex and she's like how often do you talk to Bo? And i was like, honestly, probably like five times a week.

boboballew: yeah well, because I walk home from the gym and it's like a 20 minute walk.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: So I'll often like call people that I think will pick up the phone, which is often you and my mom. So talk to like you and my mom at least a couple times a week.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, man. And I will say, just from like the third party perspective, I haven't really seen him, but Bo's got to be in amazing shape because that dude is always walking home from the gym.

boboballew: Well, it's...

Jack Gardner: um now i haven't seen you work out. You might just go sit around in the gym, but...

boboballew: Well, I was telling you this. I get on the treadmill and I do a workout Kelly taught me called Hot Girl Walk. Just like um like incline. Like walking for like 30 minutes or whatever.

boboballew: And I watch wrestling while I do that. and So I've been getting like super into wrestling over the last couple of months. And, um, and that makes like a 30 minute walking on a treadmill, like fly by when you're watching like people in drag, like beat the shit out of each other. It's very captivating.

Jack Gardner: That's awesome. Yeah, I do. Excuse me. um Similarly, I do the stairs. There's a stair stepper machine at the gym at my apartment, which is so sick.

boboballew: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: um So I just get on that and watch YouTube videos. And it's just so I might I might have to give it it give it a whirl.

boboballew: Dude, do the wrestling thing.

Jack Gardner: I was actually just on the stairs with.

boboballew: Dude, i'll I'll get you caught up on some backstory and stuff.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: It's so fun, man. Wrestling is the best.

Jack Gardner: All right. I'm definitely intrigued. um But yeah, I hurt my shoulder i told you about this. like I think it's been, it was the Tuesday before Easter.

boboballew: Yeah, it was like April or March, late March, early April.

Jack Gardner: So when, what day was Easter on? <unk> So it was like probably april like 15th or something around then. um so it's been almost three months, but I've like just started lifting weights again, which is crazy.

Jack Gardner: Like I'm in the gym and I'm, I was initially doing dumbbell press with 20 pound weights, which is like nothing, but it was all just restricted on the the shoulder.

boboballew: Yeah, yeah.

Jack Gardner: But I was doing 35s today, which was good. But yeah, just, there's like still a, just like chest press.

boboballew: That's pretty good on your way up. Doing what workout was it? Oh, yeah, yeah, sure.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, but i'm I'm on the mend, which has been good. But yeah, it's been been pretty crazy. I've been just injured for like almost three months now.

boboballew: Yeah, it's been a long time, but it seems like it's getting better, though.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, it's very slowly. it was one of those things I just, I haven't really been injured as an adult. Like I got hurt all the time as a kid, you know, skateboarding and stuff. And you always heal so quickly.

Jack Gardner: Like if you sprain your ankle or something when you're 15, it seems like you bounce back really quickly.

boboballew: Right.

Jack Gardner: But this is I've also never hurt my shoulder, which I think,

boboballew: That's a tough one.

Jack Gardner: What I've now found, yeah, just because it's like, it has to move in so many different ways. You know, like the rotator cuff is just such an intricate muscle compared to, yeah.

boboballew: Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. And it's very, like, you're very dependent on it.

Jack Gardner: Right, yeah. But here we are.

boboballew: Dude, so I am thinking of making a irresponsible financial purchase. And I'm curious what your thoughts are.

Jack Gardner: Oh, no. I was going to... Dang it. I had a sound effect for you, and accidentally deleted it instead of playing it.

boboballew: fuck.

Jack Gardner: Dang I don't know how to get it back either.

boboballew: That would have been cool.

Jack Gardner: I'll just do this one instead.

Jack Gardner: ah It was going to be the baseball one.

boboballew: We're a little rusty.

Jack Gardner: Yeah. You can't do that sound effect anymore. Okay. Walk me through it. What do we have here?

boboballew: So, well, you're like a responsible financial guy.

Jack Gardner: As you know, I'm your finance guy, so...

boboballew: And I think of myself as like a reasonably responsible person financially.

Jack Gardner: and

boboballew: um But I have a lot of travel coming up. And um when I traveled to Europe a couple of, like a month or so ago, I checked a bag and I've been checking a bag on like big trips like that.

Jack Gardner: Yeah. Dude.

boboballew: And it hasn't been too big of a nuisance. But I was kind of like, what if I didn't check a bag? And I found like a carry-on suitcase that costs like $300.

boboballew: But when you open it, it has like a closet that like collapses and then it like expands and you can like pack a shit ton of stuff in it and it fits as a carry-on. And I've been obsessed with watching videos of people use it and stuff.

Jack Gardner: ye

boboballew: And I'm kind of like, fuck, man, should I do this? Because like Vegas, your wedding, I'm going to like Alabama a couple times and then like bigger trips like early next year. And I was like, checking a bag cost month. I wouldn't check a bag to like go to like Vegas, for instance.

boboballew: But I was also like, i do have these trips coming up and I'm obsessed with the suitcase now.

Jack Gardner: Right.

Jack Gardner: Dude, I will... I can empathize because I'll oftentimes just get into like a product. for like For example, this keyboard that i've I've... A recent thing in the Jack lore that you guys have missed is I got a mechanical keyboard and I'm obsessed with it.

boboballew: and Do a little clicks. Do some clicks.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, here, listen. listen and Hold on. hold on Check this out, boys.

Jack Gardner: yeah

boboballew: How could you not buy that keyword?

Jack Gardner: ah But... But obviously not $300, but I was thinking about buying one. And then I just like watched literally a thousand YouTube videos about keyboards. And I was like, I must have this.

boboballew: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: um So I understand where you're coming from. And so does it actually fit more stuff, you think? Or is it just more of like the organization of it?

boboballew: I think so. Well, it's like one, an organization thing, because when I hate when I travel, I do hate like the living out of a suitcase part of it where it's like um I just feel like all my stuff gets unorganized and like really cluttered. And I don't like I'll pack things to be organized. And then when I'm on a trip, it becomes incredibly unorganized.

boboballew: and And so it has this like closet thing that like you can pack like a ton of stuff in and then it like it like zips ah down upon itself.

Jack Gardner: right

boboballew: And then it has like compartments where you can still fit like jackets and then shoes and like a bunch of other stuff in it.

Jack Gardner: What's it called? I'm gonna look it up real quick.

boboballew: um It is called... um

Jack Gardner: hey Check your bookmarks.

boboballew: I still have the tab open. I just like watched the video. I'm like this... ah

Jack Gardner: that's why you're That's why you needed a few more minutes to get on the podcast. you like yo

boboballew: It's called the it's called the soul guard. S.O.L.G.A.A.R.D. Carry on closet.

Jack Gardner: I will say just name value alone. Sweet name.

boboballew: I know i i was like.

Jack Gardner: Okay. Okay, so 275 bucks. that's But the thing is, this is going to last you your whole life.

boboballew: It's like a suitcase that would last forever. And like I'd go the bigger one.

Jack Gardner: Oh, would you go medium or large? I guess large. Is that a carry-on still? Yeah, it looks like it.

boboballew: Yeah, it's still carry-on.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: And the thing about it...

Jack Gardner: Oh, this is sick.

boboballew: Yeah, right? And the thing about it is also, like, you save money...

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: If you're, like, flying to Europe, you have to pay, like, 50 extra bucks a flight to check a bag.

Jack Gardner: Oh, that thing comes out of there too.

boboballew: Yeah, you can, like, hang it up and like on, like, the back of a door and stuff.

Jack Gardner: Oh, okay. So this is going to be hard to explain, but there's basically like a collapsible.

boboballew: yeah You know what I mean? It's, like...

Jack Gardner: They're kind of like cubbies, like three cubbies.

boboballew: lot Yeah, it's like a little wardrobe kind of thing.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, three cubbies stacked vertically that are collapsible into the suitcase. You can take the whole thing out and hang it up in the closet.

boboballew: And I've bought like, right?

Jack Gardner: That's actually sick, dude. What if I just bought one right now?

boboballew: i'm a Dude, if you bought one right now, I'd buy one too.

Jack Gardner: Maybe I'm going to put it on my registry. Yeah.

boboballew: i'm I'm waiting until after I move to buy it. So it's one less thing. And that's giving me time to like, think about it and be like, do I actually want this thing? You know, but the the thing I like because I bought like little like compartmental like boxes or like almost like little like things you put in your suitcase where it's supposed to help with organization.

Jack Gardner: Okay, so...

boboballew: And that like never worked the way I wanted it to.

Jack Gardner: Dude, this thing is sweet. um Is it well-regarded?

boboballew: Isn't it cool?

Jack Gardner: Have you looked at it up and read it?

boboballew: Yeah, I saw it on like one of those because I was like looking up like maybe I wasn't thinking of getting a suitcase that expensive. But I was like, maybe I'll just buy a nicer suitcase that like is like regarded for like fitting like more things and like a carry on.

boboballew: um And then that one came up on a list. And then I was like, oh, man, but it's so expensive. And I tried to find like cheaper versions of it. And that's like the only version of it I can find.

Jack Gardner: Dude, this is a... I mean, I say if you have the money. Like, if it's not going to cripple you financially, I think it's a reasonable purchase.

boboballew: Dude, it's kind of sick, right?

Jack Gardner: Yeah. The question is, what color would you get?

boboballew: um I actually was thinking about this too.

Jack Gardner: i kind of miss ah kind of mess with the Granada Green, dude.

boboballew: I've been clicking around.

boboballew: Do the Granada green if you go to the precious metals collection, there's one called Granada green um rose gold and it's like look at the Granada green.

Jack Gardner: i saw that. I was cracking up at the precious metals

Jack Gardner: little rose gold accent on there

boboballew: It's a nice touch, right?

Jack Gardner: it is a nice touch look at that guy holding it man he looks so freaking cool

boboballew: Yeah. And one thing I've noticed about suitcases in this like research I've been doing on like suitcases, all suitcases like just have like hot people in nice clothes like carrying suitcases in Tuscany.

boboballew: And it's a pretty compelling sales pitch, honestly.

Jack Gardner: This thing is cool. The thing is, i don't think you will have like much additional room for stuff. It does, maybe a little, but it does seem like...

boboballew: Well, ive watched I watched a video where a guy like showed the like the like way it collapses in and how much additional stuff he was able to fit inside his suitcase.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, I guess because you're doing it vertically.

boboballew: Because it's not that big in the suitcase. And then it has like straps on it So you like buckle it and tighten it. It almost is like, know, that makes it even smaller in the suitcase.

Jack Gardner: Okay, yeah, I see.

boboballew: So you have this organization thing. And then it like, you can fit other things in there. Like it has pockets for shoes. And then it has like a thing that like presses things down. So you can fit like a jacket in there and stuff.

Jack Gardner: Yeah. You should, um I say get it, bring it to Vegas, and we'll make a um a review video of it. Post it on YouTube, and then use the ad revenue to pay for the suitcase.

boboballew: Sorry, repeat that.

Jack Gardner: but say um We'll bring it ah friate to Vegas, make a YouTube video of us of it, and then use the ab revenue of the YouTube video to to pay for the suitcase.

boboballew: Oh, that's a good idea. That is a very good idea. um i my i do want it before that trip so I can show it off and be like, yo, check out this sweet ass 2K.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: Hey, ladies. Just walk down the strip trying to like talk to girls with it. That could be good.

boboballew: Yeah. Yeah, I think.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, I like the suitcase. I think sit on it for a while. Not physically.

boboballew: I've yeah, but you probably could.

Jack Gardner: and Buy it. Sit on it. you Oh, you could definitely sit on this bad boy.

boboballew: And if it breaks, return it.

Jack Gardner: Have you seen those suitcases that like kids have that's like a scooter?

boboballew: I have. Yeah.

Jack Gardner: you know You could get one of those alternatively.

boboballew: That would be kind of fun right around in the airport.

Jack Gardner: Let me see. Scooter suitcase for adults.

boboballew: I never was like one of those per people that like was like, maybe I'll get a nice suitcase. I just have a whatever suitcase and it works.

Jack Gardner: That is a one-time purchase, though.

boboballew: But then I was

Jack Gardner: I say instead, though, Beau, you get this one that I just sent you. So it's a little more expensive.

boboballew: Air wheels. $879.

Jack Gardner: It's a little more expensive.

boboballew: and eight hundred and seventy nine dollars Oh, it like has.

Jack Gardner: ah

Jack Gardner: It has an electric scooter, and then you sit on it, and you just whip that bad

boboballew: dude ah built into it

boboballew: Could you imagine writing this bad boy around DFW?

Jack Gardner: Dude, you'd be a king.

boboballew: Oh, dude.

Jack Gardner: The king of VFW airport.

boboballew: It's got a lock on it, too.

Jack Gardner: That's insane. Can you even bring this? can you even bring this on a plane?

boboballew: I bet one thing this suitcase is not advertising is how much space is on the inside of the suitcase.

Jack Gardner: It looks some very small.

boboballew: yeah

Jack Gardner: I mean, they they have very small people riding it around, and it still looks small compared to them. I'm not sure this even actually exists.

boboballew: It is not a big suitcase.

Jack Gardner: This looks like an AI generated thing.

boboballew: It does. Yeah, I don't know if I trust that.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, that's reasonable.

boboballew: But I was looking, I was looking up all these nice suitcases or like nicer suitcases and I started to be like, Oh, this is why people spend money like the technology inside a suitcase they've like done to like, create more space and like suitcases and stuff is like I'm like, Oh, this is how people are able to just bring a carry on places.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: I would say I'm generally pretty frugal, but I think those things that are one-time purchases where you're literally going to just use that suitcase indefinitely. I'm sure with something that expensive.

boboballew: for like a year.

Jack Gardner: Yeah. Just throw it away.

boboballew: good Because I'm gonna get the green one in for one year.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: And then I'm thinking I'm gonna get like the blue one the next year.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: You know what i mean? Like I want like i want a whole like cavalry of $300 suitcases.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, that's reasonable. But yeah, I think it's a one-time purchase. So I think it's fine. I say go for it, dude.

boboballew: Do you have any borderline irresponsible purchases you've been contemplating recently?

Jack Gardner: ah

Jack Gardner: I have been thinking about buying new golf clubs, but so let me see.

boboballew: Whoa, tell me more.

Jack Gardner: I've got these golf clubs. Wait, I don't know. It's too hard to grab. But anyway, I have the same golf clubs I've had since I was like 16.

boboballew: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: um And I made the mistake of clicking on a lot of golf club ads. And now it's like whenever I'm watching YouTube, all I see are our ads for golf clubs.

boboballew: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: And I've been playing like a ton of golf. Like literally I've been playing twice a week and I've been getting a lot better. So now I'm like finally getting to the point where I'm like, does it make sense to buy new irons? But they're just so expensive.

boboballew: Well, do you have to buy the whole set at once?

Jack Gardner: And I...

boboballew: Can't you just like upgrade like a couple clubs at a time so you're not dropping all the money at once?

Jack Gardner: Yeah, if I'm getting irons, I'd probably want to get like the whole set at lunch just because it that's all I all I need.

boboballew: Yeah, but get a set of irons, then you still have your putter driver like, oh, how much do they cost?

Jack Gardner: are All I need are the irons. That's the only thing I would need to get. But so the ones I've been looking at, which are like on the more affordable side are like 600 bucks, which is kind of crazy. But a problem with that, too, is all of the so it's this brand. It's called Tacomo. Have you heard of it

boboballew: No, I don't think so.

Jack Gardner: So they're kind of like marketed as a direct to consumer ah kind of company. So they don't like sell them in golf galaxy and stuff. It's basically all just online.

Jack Gardner: Um, but they sponsor a lot of these like YouTube golfers is kind of how they're, they're doing their advertising.

boboballew: Oh, like Bob does sports and stuff like that.

Jack Gardner: Probably. Yeah. Um, but. There's a ton of like like actual YouTuber views, not by the people who they're sponsored by. And everyone says they're like pretty much just as good as clubs that cost like twice as much.

Jack Gardner: um So I've been looking at those, but then the problem is they only sell them the set. They sell in like a four-through pitching wedge. But I don't use my four-iron because I have a hybrid.

Jack Gardner: And then I would need a gap wedge too. So I would basically just have like an extra four-iron, and then I would need to buy another wedge. to go with it. So it'd just be kind of, um, I don't know.

Jack Gardner: that That's one thing that's holding me back, but I haven't, I'm probably going to kind of sit on it for a while and wait, but I was, I was, I was,

boboballew: Yeah, this isn't something you need to do immediately, but I do like these clubs.

Jack Gardner: they look nice and mine are just old, but I don't think it would really make that much of a difference, honestly, in the game. But, um, I was thinking, cause I'm turning 30 next month.

Jack Gardner: As you know, i was like, should I buy them for myself for my birthday?

boboballew: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: But then I was, uh,

boboballew: i That's what I was thinking as you were talking about this.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, but I don't know. I've been like considering it, but I'm also thinking about not doing it. But we'll see. um just The thing that's really holding me back, if it was if I just got everything I needed in that one set, then I'd probably do it.

Jack Gardner: But it's the fact that I have to buy all those clubs. Then I'll have a four iron probably won't use. Then I'll have to buy another wedge.

Jack Gardner: So it'll end up being like this.

boboballew: So you don't use a four iron when you play. I quite like that club.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, i have I have one, but I don't even keep it in the bag because I have a hybrid that goes about the same distance, and I hit it like really well. So there's kind of no... i Whenever I had it in the bag, I just had no reason to ever hit it because I would always just hit the hybrid.

Jack Gardner: like It went basically the same distance, and I just hit way better.

boboballew: Yeah. Well, if you got a new nice one, do you think you would hit it more?

Jack Gardner: i don't know, because that hybrid's like my favorite club. like Whenever I just need to hit a fairway, I pretty much hit that club, so... Maybe, though. I don't know. it's It's tough to say.

boboballew: Yeah. Yeah, well, I would support you in this.

Jack Gardner: But that's my response. By the way, I told you about what happened with my driver, right?

boboballew: Yeah, some guy broke it

Jack Gardner: Yeah, so...

boboballew: yes so

Jack Gardner: I already told Bo, and it's so funny. It's worth repeating. um So I was there, and I was playing with one of my co-workers, and... And then we were paired up with a couple other guys. And we were like hanging out. We were over halfway through. And then at one point, we're just like, I'm standing in front of a guy. And we're like having a conversation. I'm just like holding my driver in front of me.

Jack Gardner: And he just out of nowhere takes a practice swing and just like breaks my driver in half, basically. And the club head just went flying.

boboballew: Oh my god.

Jack Gardner: Dude, it was so crazy. We were all like, oh, my God.

boboballew: So do you have a new driver?

Jack Gardner: He ended up giving me money for just a new shaft. But the same club head. Thankfully, it like the damage was... I mean, broke half, obviously, but it was the ah cheaper part of the club.

Jack Gardner: It was like...

boboballew: What? um What did you do the rest of that round?

Jack Gardner: I used my co-worker's driver and I was actually freaking bombing it. I was like, man, I kind of want your driver instead. cause Yeah. um But yeah, it's been good. I think I actually got a shaft that like suits me better anyway, so it kind of worked out.

boboballew: Is your company sending you to England again this year?

Jack Gardner: No, they're not. I kind of immediately knew. They told us that. So ah have we podcasted since then?

boboballew: No, no way.

Jack Gardner: We actually haven't. Oh, that's insane.

boboballew: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: So, so this was in September of last year. my company had previously, we got acquired a couple years ago, but then they merged us with another subsidiary of the same company and everyone's headquartered in London.

Jack Gardner: Um, So they were telling us, I guess they had been historically, but their company was smaller previously, but they were bringing everyone into like the big company headquarters. It's like this huge building in London and it's in King's cross.

boboballew: Where in London is it?

boboballew: Oh yeah. Yeah. Sure. Okay.

Jack Gardner: It's kind of like, yeah, it's like London proper.

boboballew: So it's like in the weeds, it's like in the thick of it kind of. Yeah.

Jack Gardner: Um, it's, it's a huge building. And they flew us all out there and they told us they were gonna do it annually. And it was sick, because my brother works at the same company and we went out to Scotland and we played golf beforehand. it was like unbelievable.

Jack Gardner: And then um I was able to like work there for the week and

boboballew: Did you fly with your clubs or did you rent clubs?

Jack Gardner: I brought my clubs with me because we played a couple times and we played one course that was like expensive and really nice. So I was like, I'm, but then I shot like a 105 or something.

boboballew: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: It was like the hardest course I've ever played.

boboballew: Yeah, yeah, sure.

Jack Gardner: um But yeah, I brought the club. But anyway, I was, they had to fly out like 50 people and so yeah I was like, this is and so, like,

boboballew: And put you in a hotel and like.

Jack Gardner: And then I was like, I'd be surprised if they did this again. And they, they were telling us at the time they were going to do it every year, but then they did not. um

boboballew: Classic.

Jack Gardner: We recently found out we're not going, yeah, it was like, ah but I was actually excited over it. Man, that'd be sweet if I got to go to London every year.

boboballew: Did it go to London? Dude, London, I was just there the best. I like couldn't believe how much I liked it there.

Jack Gardner: Freaking rules, dude. It's so nice. It's a lot like New York City, I think. Like, similar kind of vibe.

boboballew: ah Well, because of like trains and buses and like big city.

Jack Gardner: Yeah. Mm.

boboballew: um It didn't remind me as much as New York City as I expected it to. But in a lot of ways it does. Paris reminded me more of New York than London, but we don't have to get into that.

boboballew: But um what so what did you make of London? I am curious.

Jack Gardner: I loved it, dude.

boboballew: Having just been there, I do want to like talk about it.

Jack Gardner: I thought it was awesome. I thought, um, well, I thought it was cause I haven't been to that many cities other than like New York, Barcelona, um, kind of San Francisco or cities that are like really walkable and have really good public transit.

boboballew: I was thinking about the time you and I hung out in Barcelona the other day, someone was talking about like Barcelona.

Jack Gardner: Um,

boboballew: And I was like, Oh, I've been there. And then like, that that was a fun time.

Jack Gardner: yeah, that awesome. Yeah. Um, But anyway, it was nice in that you could just really get around. And then it was like international enough to where like you're clearly in a very different country and culture, but it's just so easy as an American.

Jack Gardner: Like everybody speaks the same language.

boboballew: Yes.

Jack Gardner: um And then there's just so much history around there that you can see.

boboballew: Yes.

Jack Gardner: And I thought it was like similar to New York, but a little bit slower paced, I thought. Like not quite as crazy. Yeah. But I loved it.

Jack Gardner: i was like, I could live in London, like, no problem.

boboballew: I had the same thought. i was like, I was like, I would almost like want to not like I could.

Jack Gardner: It's so cool. Yeah. Yeah. But

boboballew: I was like, I, I, I almost want to just move here.

Jack Gardner: that's what I thought, too.

boboballew: Um,

Jack Gardner: I was like, this place rules. It's so nice.

boboballew: ah it was so, it was so good. um did you go around to like different parts of London or did you just kind of stay yeah by near where the office was?

Jack Gardner: um so we did i went around a good amount we did um one day like one of those double-decker bus tours um which was sick i like wanted to do that for some reason that was on my main list of things to do when i went to one yeah because they just drive around and drop you off everywhere so i got to see a lot of like the major um attractions that way like

boboballew: Oh, fun.

boboballew: Yeah, those big buses in London? Yeah, you gotta get on one of those.

Jack Gardner: Tower Bridge, like by that London Eye, kind of just the downtown area. So all all the major stuff was covered in that. Then we also did a ah river cruise, which was cool.

Jack Gardner: So it just, that was awesome.

boboballew: Oh, I did one of those. That was fun.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, I really liked that. um I also went to the, um one of the museums, was like the Science Museum.

boboballew: Oh, that's cool.

Jack Gardner: I went Yeah, but it was really cool. I went around it a good bit. i mean, I don't know too much about the areas, but we just kind of like went all over.

boboballew: Yeah. got Oh, you're frozen.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, you are too, but I can still hear you.

boboballew: Dude, or is this still recording? Oh, you're back.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: um Have I told you my theory on cities?

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: No, but I'm intrigued.

boboballew: you You can't... You can you have river runs the city. there's river, bad city. Yeah. you can only be a good city if you have a river that runs through the city like if there's no river it's it's like a bad city and

Jack Gardner: Yeah, well, I think...

Jack Gardner: I mean, I think pretty much all cities were built upon that initially, because that's how you brought stuff to the city.

boboballew: yeah

Jack Gardner: I think good it's kind of hard to think of cities that don't have, like, a river or water supply, at least major ones.

boboballew: The only ones are like American cities, probably really.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, i guess because they're more modern, and feel like pretty much all of them do.

boboballew: But even a lot of American cities have rivers.

Jack Gardner: Like, all of them...

boboballew: Does Dallas?

Jack Gardner: and Yeah, Dallas has... um don't even remember what it's called, but there is a river.

boboballew: Doesn't count bad city.

Jack Gardner: It's less of like a thing, but yeah, I think that that's kind of like where, when, um, the Trinity, whenever.

boboballew: Oh, the Trinity. rate Oh yeah. Trinity high school and stuff.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: Yeah, sure.

Jack Gardner: Well, I think just when they originally like picked places to settle, they would like pick rivers probably cause they were like going down a river and we're like, this seems sweet.

boboballew: Yeah, they're like, all right, this seems like as good a place as any.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: did I want to go to Scotland really bad too.

Jack Gardner: Yeah. Um,

Jack Gardner: Dude, Scotland was awesome.

boboballew: Were you near like Edinburgh?

Jack Gardner: I loved it. Yeah, we stayed in Edinburgh, which was like the coolest freaking city, dude. That's another place I went.

boboballew: I hear it so cool.

Jack Gardner: and I was like, I could probably live here. It's so cool, dude, because it's just got that really old architecture, everything like there's castles and stuff. um But then it's like super, super walkable.

Jack Gardner: But there's pretty much everything you need is like right in like a really small area. Like it's it's a decent sized population. I think it's like close to a million, I want to say. But then it's very... um like condensed which is cool like it's really easy it is like mega oh yeah you can walk around like the whole the whole thing pretty much um and then we we basically just stayed in edinburgh but then we went to saint andrews to play golf

boboballew: Oh, that's cool. So you were walking around.

boboballew: How far is that for Menomero?

Jack Gardner: um i think it was like an hour and a half two hours we took like a we hired a car to drive us there

boboballew: And then it drove you back after the round and stuff.

Jack Gardner: Yes, I think. No, actually, i think we took the train back because we had to leave really early in the morning, so we kind of didn't deal with it. But we had this dude who was like just the most Scottish dude ever. And he was like talking about how...

Jack Gardner: he he had seen Buc-ee's on like Instagram or something, and he was just like, the existence of it like shocked him to to some degree.

boboballew: blew his mind.

Jack Gardner: That was unbelievable. And then they had this, like come did you see they made that like car wash? It's like the biggest car wash ever made at Buc-ee's.

boboballew: No, which Bucky's is it?

Jack Gardner: do Dude, I think it's in Houston. You got to look it up.

boboballew: Bucky's massive car wash. Bucky's is like a special place. World record holder.

Jack Gardner: That's what I was saying. Yeah. um But we were just talking about this and it was just like.

boboballew: 255 feet

Jack Gardner: Yeah, it melted his Scottish mind.

boboballew: dude

Jack Gardner: He could not comprehend, but I was trying to explain to him. I was like, this isn't and like Texas. People go to Bucky's too and are like, what is this place? You know what i mean? It's not like it's it's a normal.

Jack Gardner: It's pretty funny.

boboballew: Yeah, like I love going to Bucky's and part of my reason for loving going is that I'm like, I can't believe this is a real place and that there are so many of them.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, the Scottish guy, that mind was blown by Buc-ee's. It was so funny, he brought it up, was just like talking about Buc-ee's, was cracking me up.

boboballew: But I mean, if you were like not from America and you saw that on Instagram, you'd be like America's the craziest place in the world.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, well know people when they come to even like, you'll go to like Walmart if you're from another country and you're like, this is not normal, you know?

boboballew: Yeah.

boboballew: yeah Yeah, it's so wild.

Jack Gardner: ah Yeah. um Bucky's car wash name of the episode.

boboballew: Yeah, oh that that's the name of the episode for sure.

Jack Gardner: me Of course, of course.

boboballew: Nice. Yeah, I'm glad we remembered to do that.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, that's important.

boboballew: It is crazy we haven't done this in a year.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, just about. I think we'll probably hit the backlog too if you're if you're open to it.

boboballew: I got time to do another one.

Jack Gardner: one more. Yeah. um yep Oh, dude, was meaning to ask you. as it's the 5th of July, i saw you were on a Coney Island.

boboballew: what no i got there after it because i heard the hunt dog eating contest is like kind of miserable

Jack Gardner: Did you check out the, uh, the hot dog eating contest?

Jack Gardner: Hmm. Okay. um

Jack Gardner: Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't, I'm sure there's, you know, it's really crowded and hot and everything, but like, I don't know if I want to see someone eat 70 hot dogs in person.

boboballew: no i don't i yeah like no one looked

Jack Gardner: It's kind of hard to watch on TV. If you saw that in real life, like, Oh,

boboballew: I did pitch your nice idea for a food eating kind a hot dog eating contest yesterday with the people I was with and everyone thought it was a great idea.

Jack Gardner: What was it? Like, you have to enjoy it the most or something?

boboballew: So ah last year, Jack and cause he was here on 4th of July.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: were talking about the hot dog eating contest and stuff. And Jack and I came up with a, with our version of the Nathan's hot dog eating contest. And it's who can eat the most hot dogs while looking like they're enjoying eating. hot ah The second you show any sign of discomfort or frustration or whatever, you're out, you're done.

Jack Gardner: yeah

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: it was, It got a people got a kick out of that one.

Jack Gardner: That is pretty, it would be more fun to watch. How many do you think you could actually, so you'd probably, you would definitely, if you're really hungry, you'd definitely enjoy two, maybe three.

boboballew: Enjoy.

boboballew: i could eat more than two and looking. I bet I could do at least four.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, yeah. But you would actually enjoy two or three.

boboballew: yeah but I could.

Jack Gardner: And then you'd have to pretend to enjoy after that.

boboballew: Five. Yeah.

Jack Gardner: I think five is like max. where you Where you actually kind of still maintain.

boboballew: five yeah

Jack Gardner: Yeah. Yeah.

boboballew: Because it is hard. Like, because one, like, i know for sure I could do four. i could I could make myself look like I'm enjoying eating four hot dogs, for sure. um ah Five?

boboballew: I think I could get through five, but that would be like, I'm really forcing it.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, you're like, like smiling.

boboballew: And then... ah This is so good. and then

Jack Gardner: ah so

boboballew: And then six, you're toast. Six...

Jack Gardner: Yeah, six, no way.

boboballew: I wonder how i i don't think Joey Chestnut could do one.

Jack Gardner: Yeah,

boboballew: And looking like he's enjoying it.

Jack Gardner: I bet he hates eating hot dogs more than anyone else in the entire world. But there's no way that guy even looks at hot dogs 364 days of the year.

boboballew: I. How fucked do you think Joey Chestnut's relationship to food is now? Like, do you think he enjoys eating ever?

Jack Gardner: i was

Jack Gardner: don't know. He might just... I feel like just hibernates year-round until July fourth Then he comes out of like his cave and just starts slamming dogs.

boboballew: No.

boboballew: No, he like shows up and does like events and stuff like he was at like, ah like, there was this thing in New York called fanatics fast, which is was just like this big like Comic Con for sports.

Jack Gardner: ah

boboballew: And he like did a food eating contest there like two weeks ago.

Jack Gardner: Jeez. How does he...

boboballew: I because I was thinking about this. ah i was talking about this with the people i was at Coney Island with yesterday, like they have to practice.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: Like throughout the year, you know, like, so he's probably crushing 70 hot dogs at least once a month.

Jack Gardner: So do you think they just go and like make themselves throw up after? Surely, right? like You can't just like sit there with 70 hot dogs in your

boboballew: They must, there must be like the grossest bathroom in the world somewhere, like a port-a-potty or something. Oh, oh, I didn't think about that.

Jack Gardner: What's his margin of victory? Yeah, you can't just like chill.

boboballew: was 70.

Jack Gardner: ah much to see How much does he- I gotta of look up the results.

boboballew: The crazy thing is okay, I got a question for you.

Jack Gardner: but Okay.

boboballew: Over a period of 24 hours, how many hot dogs do you think you could eat? If someone was like the only food you're eating today is hot dogs.

Jack Gardner: And I don't have to enjoy it.

boboballew: But this is like, the only food you're eating today, we want to see how many hot dogs you could eat over the course of a day.

Jack Gardner: I might be able to do- My initial thought is one per hour, but that kind of seems like too many, almost.

Jack Gardner: I'm going to say i could 18 hot dogs.

Jack Gardner: But I might be able to do more than that, honestly, but it's really that good

boboballew: 18? could do... You could do one in a hot dog an hour. Hot dogs aren't that big.

Jack Gardner: for me.

boboballew: What do you put on your hot dogs?

Jack Gardner: um what I do mustard and relish.

boboballew: No ketchup? Oh, yeah, your dad's very anti-ketchup on a hot dog, right?

Jack Gardner: dude i'm with it it seems like so wrong to me for some reason ketchup on a hot dog is like disturbing to me i think it's been just ingrained by my dad

boboballew: Like, isn't...

boboballew: I put...

Jack Gardner: and

boboballew: Yesterday I went to the Coney Island Cyclones, which is the um minor league team on Coney Island baseball game because they do a big fireworks show, which is why we went to Coney Island.

Jack Gardner: yeah

boboballew: um And on Fourth of July, they play as the Coney Island Franks and they wear like a hot dog themed uniform and they gave out free hats. So I have like a like a sick hot dog hat now.

Jack Gardner: What do you have it?

boboballew: It's in the living room. um And then um I'll pull it out in a sec.

Jack Gardner: Love to show me.

boboballew: And then um so i was like, I'm going to get a hot dog. But I was like, I also kind of want chicken tenders. So I got a basket of chicken tenders and fries and a hot dog. And I put ketchup and mustard on my hot dog.

Jack Gardner: Dude, that's, that's pretty epic except for the ketchup on the hot dog part. Um,

boboballew: And then I and then I got Italian ice and a cookie. And I had ice cream while at the boardwalk of Coney Island. It was a big day.

Jack Gardner: Nice. So I just, I was looking up the results. Patrick Bertoletti, who won, he won last year, because we need to talk about the Joey Chestnut ban, because that's so funny.

Jack Gardner: um

boboballew: It is hilarious.

Jack Gardner: But he ate 46 and a half, and Joey Chestnut ate 71. Or no, 70 and won 25. Won by 25 That's crazy.

boboballew: Joe Chesna is just a beast, dude.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

Jack Gardner: um by twenty five dog

boboballew: That's crazy.

Jack Gardner: that's crazy

boboballew: ah see Is he like the best like anyone's ever been at anything? You know what I mean?

boboballew: like

Jack Gardner: I mean, he's won 17 times.

boboballew: Because like, I remember when we were like kids, there was like Kobayashi and they're like dudes like that.

Jack Gardner: And it's...

boboballew: But the chestnut thing like just like seems like it's taking a life of its own.

boboballew: Okay, question for you. What is Joey chestnuts net worth? I'm pulling it up right now. What do you think?

Jack Gardner: God. I think he had a pretty big deal with the Impossible Company whenever he got...

boboballew: He did.

Jack Gardner: Whenever he didn't do I'm going to say a cool 15 mil.

boboballew: According to the internet, it's estimated at about 4 million, which seems low to me.

Jack Gardner: Hmm.

boboballew: It's got to be higher. There's no way.

Jack Gardner: Yeah.

boboballew: Maybe that's like what he puts on tax documents and stuff.

Jack Gardner: Yeah, I feel like those are never accurate.

boboballew: Yeah, because he makes a ton of money.

Jack Gardner: Yeah. It's getting a little laggy. I think it might be... it's

Jack Gardner: Yeah, it's getting pretty laggy right now. I think it's related to the weather here. Can you hear me, Bo?

boboballew: Mm-hmm.

boboballew: Again, you want to wrap this?

Jack Gardner: um I think we wrap it up. I'm kind of lagging out. going play this the theme. Yeah, going to play the theme song.

boboballew: Okay, do you want to do one more?

Jack Gardner: Yeah, yeah. Thanks, everybody. We'll be back in a week.

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