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Talk Sauce #103 - Dirty Chai
23 Plays2 months ago
The boys discuss coffee and some light arson
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Zencastr's Smooth Transitions
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Jack Gardner
Yo, yo, yo, everybody.
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boboballew
We're back.
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Jack Gardner
We're back again. ah kind of like um on this software how we can actually play the the audio, like the the theme song at the same time as we're talking as opposed to the other one.
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boboballew
It's really nice. It feels like an easier transition.
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Jack Gardner
Yeah. Yeah.
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boboballew
What's this called? Zencaster?
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Jack Gardner
Zincaster. It's actually the best because this one's cheap too and it gives you literally everything you need, which is cool compared to that other one we used. And I will say from the standpoint of just like setting everything up to push it live, this one's much easier than that other one.
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boboballew
A thousand percent.
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Jack Gardner
wanted to do a lot of work on before. Oh yeah, because that that other one's ready to go pretty much, I think.
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boboballew
Yeah, that was fast.
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Jack Gardner
I'll have to look at
Targeted Ads and Privacy Concerns
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Jack Gardner
it later. but um Dude, so I was going to the bathroom like right in between
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boboballew
Mm-hmm.
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Jack Gardner
And i I look at my phone, as you do, and I was on YouTube Shorts like from before, and I scrolled to the next one, and there was um an ad for that suitcase.
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boboballew
Mm-hmm.
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boboballew
Dude, you want to know what's funny?
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Jack Gardner
They got me already, dude.
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boboballew
I was also in the bathroom and got my phone as one does. And I got an Instagram and I got an advertisement for golf clubs.
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Jack Gardner
Did you get a Tacoma ad?
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Jack Gardner
No way! How did it happen so fast?
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boboballew
And then we got like the opposite because the golf club, big golf club already knows they have you in and suitcases already knows they have me.
00:01:29
Jack Gardner
That's actually crazy.
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Jack Gardner
Yeah. Big suitcase.
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Jack Gardner
Whoa, that's actually crazy.
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boboballew
Dude, I think it's a sign.
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boboballew
i think it's a sign. You should buy suitcase when I buy golf clubs.
00:01:42
Jack Gardner
i buy a suitcase and you buy suitcase.
Cold Brew Tips & Coffee Making Techniques
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Jack Gardner
Keep them on their toes. Wow, that's crazy. So for those that don't remember, Bo and I looked this up. Literally, it's been half an hour. It was on the previous episode.
00:01:56
Jack Gardner
So, man, that's crazy. um What you sipping on there? little tea?
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boboballew
Coffee.
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Jack Gardner
Coffee. You know, right before...
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boboballew
Made some cold brew.
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Jack Gardner
Don't you have a mocha pot?
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boboballew
i have a mocha pot and a cold brew maker.
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Jack Gardner
I made a, right before the last episode, I made some coffee in the mocha pot and that, it makes some good coffee. It's also very strong.
00:02:15
boboballew
dude. Yeah, it does. It does take a little longer than I'd like it to sometimes but it is like summer and it's hot. And it's that time of year where it's like the natural temperature of the apartment is hotter than outside.
00:02:23
Jack Gardner
Yeah.
00:02:28
boboballew
So cold brew is the way to go for me at home right now.
00:02:31
Jack Gardner
Yeah. What I do with the mocha pot is I actually use my electric kettle and heat up the water beforehand and then pour it in.
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boboballew
But I do the mocha pot too.
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boboballew
Oh,
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Jack Gardner
it makes it like 10 times faster.
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boboballew
So it boils faster.
00:02:42
Jack Gardner
It's actually insane.
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boboballew
Yeah, because sometimes it takes forever.
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Jack Gardner
It's like, yeah, so I've been, i saw this online because I was, I had the same thing, but you put it on the
Coffee Maker Comparisons
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Jack Gardner
stove, right? So it like starts warming up, just the bottom of it.
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Jack Gardner
And then the water, you get the water, um like pretty hot.
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boboballew
Yeah.
00:02:58
Jack Gardner
I didn't quite get it to boiling and then I pour it in and then screw everything together and then it's done like way faster.
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boboballew
Dude, I kind of want one of those like diner coffee pots.
00:03:09
Jack Gardner
you mean?
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boboballew
Were you like, like, um like that your parents probably had when you were a kid?
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Jack Gardner
Just like, just
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Jack Gardner
just like a normal coffee pot?
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boboballew
Yeah, like kind of like one of those old school kind of ones where like, do you?
00:03:18
Jack Gardner
I have, I think I have one of those. Let me, I'll be right back. you want me to show it to you? All right, I'm gonna, I'll pause for a second.
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boboballew
Yeah, show it to me.
00:03:29
Jack Gardner
All right, I'm back. So that was not what you were talking about?
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boboballew
Here. No, I just linked you kind of what I'm talking about.
00:03:34
Jack Gardner
Okay, i thought he was just talking about like a normal. Oh yeah, I mean, it's basically the same thing. So,
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boboballew
Oh, is it?
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Jack Gardner
Let me tell you the difference though, because this is key because I've had both types. So that one has a hot plate underneath of it.
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boboballew
Yes.
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Jack Gardner
The quality of coffee it makes is like generally the same. But the problem is if you leave coffee in that one for a long time, it burns.
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boboballew
Yeah.
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Jack Gardner
So I got this one after actually Alex got it for me, but it's a thermos. So it stays hot in the thermos. So the coffee like stays good the whole time.
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Jack Gardner
Cause I used to have one.
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boboballew
how do you How do you drip it?
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Jack Gardner
What you mean? Drip it.
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boboballew
Like, how do you make the coffee?
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Jack Gardner
It's the exact same as that one there.
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boboballew
Oh, what's it called?
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Jack Gardner
um i think it's a black and decker. it's It's sick. you If you get one of those, you have to get one that... um It's right here. It's this one.
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Jack Gardner
Dude, I can't believe you were just talking about like a normal coffee maker. It's so funny.
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boboballew
I don't. Oh, I see it.
00:04:31
Jack Gardner
You're like, this exotic this exotic type.
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boboballew
Well, they have them like in diners and stuff.
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Jack Gardner
I think it's... Yeah,
Coffee Habits & Starbucks Alternatives
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Jack Gardner
yeah. it's I have that one.
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boboballew
I see. I found it. Yeah, it's like 75 bucks.
00:04:41
Jack Gardner
Dude.
00:04:43
Jack Gardner
Yeah, it might have been cheaper. This might be like an older model, so it's cheaper. But if you get one of those, make sure you get one with a thermos. It's huge. It like makes such a big difference.
00:04:52
boboballew
That's good to know, because the reason why I want one of these is like I like I like that you can make a lot of coffee at once.
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boboballew
And then I I'm a big iced coffee guy, so just throw it in the fridge and in like the afternoon. have some cold coffee.
00:05:09
Jack Gardner
Yeah, and that's good with the thermos too. But yeah, the other ones, it burns the coffee. So if you especially if you only have a little bit left, it's like undrinkable if you use one of those glass ones. and And then if you turn it off, it just gets cold like immediately.
00:05:22
Jack Gardner
So I'm a big proponent of thermos gang.
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boboballew
oh interesting.
00:05:26
Jack Gardner
Plus with those, you can you can schedule it if you're if you drink coffee right when you wake up.
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boboballew
i
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Jack Gardner
I don't really do this anymore, but I used to set it up to where it would just I would wake up and there'd be a ah cup cup of joe ready for me.
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boboballew
And it like you get the coffee smell in the house and like, it's nice.
00:05:42
Jack Gardner
Yeah, yeah you you just set it up the night before. It's kind of nice.
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boboballew
Yeah, I because I'm not like a big like, like, I don't really care about what kind of coffee or how it's made. Like the mocha pot makes good coffee, but i don't really give that much of a shit.
00:05:57
boboballew
You know what I mean?
00:05:58
Jack Gardner
Yeah, I feel you. i kind of like On the weekends, I'll i'll bust out the mocha pot or like do something. But um during the week, I don't really care that much. We actually have another thing, like this Nespresso thing that Alex got
Cost Analysis: Coffee Machines and Pods
00:06:12
Jack Gardner
um that just has little pods.
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Jack Gardner
And...
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boboballew
Oh, yeah. I was telling someone the other day that I want that coffee pot I was just telling you about, and she was saying she has an espresso. and She's like, you should get an espresso.
00:06:21
Jack Gardner
It's... Dude, it's really cool. The thing is, though, it's like the pods are kind of expensive.
00:06:27
boboballew
Yeah, they're like a hundred bucks, right?
00:06:27
Jack Gardner
So... Well, the coffee maker's expensive, but then the individual like coffee for it, it's probably like $2 for a cup of coffee, maybe a little less than that.
00:06:37
boboballew
Which is cheaper than going to get coffee, but that's still expensive for making coffee at home.
00:06:40
Jack Gardner
but it's But it's a lot more than... Yeah, but the what's really cool, though, about this one that we have is it's got like a QR code thing on the bottom, like a barcode.
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boboballew
ah
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Jack Gardner
So it makes a lot of different types of coffee. So you can get like espresso or or like a regular coffee.
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boboballew
And you like controlled on your phone then?
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Jack Gardner
No, you just put it in there and then it scans it and then it makes like the right coffee basically. So it uses the right amount of water and temperature or whatever that it does.
00:07:03
boboballew
Oh, interesting. That's pretty cool.
00:07:07
Jack Gardner
It makes really, really good coffee. But um yeah, just if I'm making like a pot, like I don't want to drink more than one of those a day just because it's kind of expensive, but it is really good. I have one this morning and then I then I crushed the mocha pot.
00:07:17
boboballew
Yeah.
00:07:19
Jack Gardner
so I'm kind of like mega caffeinated right now.
00:07:22
boboballew
Yeah, I had some cold brew this morning and now drinking little more cold brew now. Because I like the idea of like, and just like the coffee pots we grew up with, just like making a lot of coffee at once.
00:07:34
boboballew
And like, like, that's what I liked about the French press. Like if I am making mocha pot, which I typically do it like I have to make coffee twice to have two cups of coffee in the morning.
00:07:45
Jack Gardner
right dude you should i love having that one with the thermos it's if i'm chilling at home and alex and i are are both doing it because you just get a big pot um it doesn't necessarily have to be that one but just something like that um it's really nice because you just have a full thermos and it's basically in like a yeti you know so it like stays hot forever
00:07:50
boboballew
That's what I would do. that
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Jack Gardner
um
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boboballew
Yeah, yeah.
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boboballew
I'm seeing like some, I'm seeing them online. That's definitely drip.
00:08:11
Jack Gardner
I don't think it was $75 when we got it because it this isn't even on Prime. So I feel like it might be. Oh, wait, yeah, is. Maybe it was. I don't know. Alex bought it.
00:08:21
boboballew
Yeah, I'm seeing some in like, like, cause like in varying price points. um But I, that's what I would do if I got that.
00:08:30
Jack Gardner
Dude, you should, man. We could turn this into a coffee podcast.
00:08:34
boboballew
Yeah, we drink our like Dunkin Donut ground coffees and act like coffee sauce.
00:08:37
Jack Gardner
Call it coffee pods. Coffee pod.
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boboballew
Coffee sauce.
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Jack Gardner
Coffee sauce.
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boboballew
What kind of like if you're using mocha pot, what kind of coffee do you use?
00:08:47
Jack Gardner
So Alex always gets like every once in a while, because she doesn't work like she'll have random days off throughout the week. And so ah sometimes she'll go around to like different coffee shops in Austin and occasionally will come back with like some beans from them that are nice.
00:09:03
boboballew
Do have grinder?
00:09:04
Jack Gardner
Yeah, i have a grinder. um So i I never really buy coffee.
00:09:06
boboballew
oh nice.
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Jack Gardner
She'll like come back occasionally with something like that. And then I'll end up just making that. But
Functional vs. Fancy Coffee Preferences
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Jack Gardner
it's usually pretty good. But I'm not a huge like coffee snob. So I'll kind of just drink whatever.
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boboballew
Yeah, and I'm not like anti being a coffee snob. I've like attempted to become a coffee snob, but I just can't get myself to get there.
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Jack Gardner
That's kind of how I feel too. Like I do enjoy a nice cup of coffee. But I don't. And i'll on the weekend, like I like to have something nice. But during the weekend, I don't really care. It's more of a function to just make me um exist properly.
00:09:38
boboballew
Like, i'm I'll get like, ah I'll probably buy a cup of coffee from a coffee shop like once or twice a week. But I'm not like a like, like, um like, it doesn't like tempt me when I have coffee at home, really.
00:09:53
Jack Gardner
Yeah, I kind of feel the same way.
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boboballew
You know?
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Jack Gardner
um Yeah, man.
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boboballew
Like, I just use like pre-ground Tim Horton coffee grinds I buy in bulk on Amazon.
00:10:02
Jack Gardner
Tim Horton.
00:10:04
boboballew
Yeah, I love Tim Horton's coffee. I like Dunkin Donuts coffee too. I got shit from that.
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Jack Gardner
duncan is good Duncan has good coffee. I know they did a like a blind taste test study.
00:10:10
boboballew
I think so too.
00:10:13
Jack Gardner
It was probably funded by Dunkin' Donuts, but I think Dunkin' Donuts placed better. I mean, it's definitely better than Starbucks.
00:10:20
boboballew
Starbucks is bad. Starbucks is actively bad.
00:10:21
Jack Gardner
Starbucks stinks. They just burn it.
00:10:24
boboballew
Yeah, like i I and Starbucks kind of like I hate the idea of Starbucks. So I don't like fuck around and go to Starbucks like
00:10:33
Jack Gardner
What really pisses me off about Starbucks is the sizes.
00:10:38
boboballew
Explain.
00:10:38
Jack Gardner
It's like they're from Seattle. You know what I mean?
00:10:40
boboballew
Yeah.
00:10:41
Jack Gardner
Like, you guys aren't European. You don't have to say Venti. Just say small, medium, large.
00:10:45
boboballew
oh I see. Yeah, that doesn't bother me as much.
00:10:47
Jack Gardner
ah
00:10:48
boboballew
I get the vibe they're going for with that, I guess.
00:10:48
Jack Gardner
Dude, it pisses...
00:10:51
boboballew
um
00:10:52
Jack Gardner
Nah, dude, that shit pisses me off.
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boboballew
what
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Jack Gardner
Small, medium, and large, you're an American company.
00:10:55
boboballew
what
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Jack Gardner
Don't don't act otherwise.
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boboballew
what What pisses me off is um how much ice they put in their iced coffee.
Starbucks Critiques and Cake Pop Memories
00:11:04
Jack Gardner
Dude, don't...
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boboballew
And that...
00:11:06
Jack Gardner
Buying a cold brew at Starbucks pisses me off. It's like $8, and then you get a sip.
00:11:09
boboballew
Because half a cup of coffee. Yeah, you almost have to ask for it for no ice.
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Jack Gardner
Dude, it's insane.
00:11:15
boboballew
um
00:11:15
Jack Gardner
If you get it with no ice, that's probably a play, honestly.
00:11:18
boboballew
Or you ask for the ice on the side.
00:11:18
Jack Gardner
And then you're like, and then can i have some, you just got to order it, no ice, and then go back up and be like, hey, can I get some ice?
00:11:25
boboballew
yeah actually, can I get some ice?
00:11:28
Jack Gardner
This is not cold all. Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:32
boboballew
That and if you get an espresso drink at Starbucks. So I've worked in coffee shops and like espresso machines, like that little nozzle makes two shots of espresso. That's like default.
00:11:42
Jack Gardner
yeah
00:11:43
boboballew
That's what a shot of espresso is. But Starbucks, the way they do it is they put in the nozzle comes out like two. So it comes out on two sides.
00:11:52
Jack Gardner
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:11:54
boboballew
If you get an espresso drink from Starbucks and you get it in a small, and they only put the cup under one of the nozzles. And then just waste the other one. Because they'd rather waste it than give it to you this...
00:12:02
Jack Gardner
They waste it? Are you serious? Is that actually what they do? They just waste it?
00:12:07
boboballew
Yeah. That messed up, dude.
00:12:10
Jack Gardner
um Wait, do they? Is that real?
00:12:12
boboballew
I believe so. I've been...
00:12:13
Jack Gardner
Wow. I might have to fact check you on that, but that's freaking crazy. It seems like
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Jack Gardner
Unbelievable.
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boboballew
But doesn't that seem like something like a company like Starbucks would do?
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Jack Gardner
Yeah.
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boboballew
They'd rather waste coffee than like give you what they consider a free shot of espresso? Yeah.
00:12:31
Jack Gardner
Yeah, that's crazy. And I know, too, my brother was talking about, you know, you ever drink like a dirty chai?
00:12:37
boboballew
Yeah, they're not my favorite, but...
00:12:39
Jack Gardner
ah dude, they're so good. I like put, I was really into them in college, and I told my dad, I told my, it's such a college drink, but, they're oh, dude, i I kind of want,
00:12:44
boboballew
Me too. I was... It would hit. Like...
00:12:50
Jack Gardner
um with the rain out right now that sounds pretty good and yeah oh I kind of want one but anyway I put my dad on the double dirty chai and he like is obsessed with them now and as a result like my younger brothers got into them so one of my brothers was um
00:12:52
boboballew
a woodhead like
00:13:09
Jack Gardner
at like a coffee shop in eight he goes to A&M and he got one there and it was like four bucks or whatever. And then at Starbucks, the way that they charge for it is it's like $5 for the dirty chai.
00:13:21
Jack Gardner
And then it's like an extra dollar, dollar 50 per espresso shot. So if you get ah or sorry, it's $5 for the chai. And then you pay an extra like two or $3.
00:13:29
boboballew
You pay for the espresso.
00:13:30
Jack Gardner
So it ends up being like eight bucks or something for the, for the fricking drink at Starbucks.
00:13:31
boboballew
oh
00:13:36
Jack Gardner
Where is it?
00:13:36
Jack Gardner
Like a normal coffee? Dude. Yeah. They pissed me off.
00:13:36
boboballew
That's unreal.
00:13:39
boboballew
Starbucks pisses me off more than any like other major American corporation.
00:13:42
Jack Gardner
Yeah, they can take it can take their venti asses out of this country for all I care.
00:13:48
boboballew
it Dude, they make me so mad. I don't even... like like Relatively compared to what other evil American companies do, like it's like... But now really, you know, it's like not that big of a deal, but it just bothers me so much.
00:14:03
Jack Gardner
It's because it's just so blatantly stupid. And it's like kind of pet it's like petty stuff. It's like, come on.
00:14:09
boboballew
Yeah.
00:14:09
Jack Gardner
You're going to charge me an extra dollar for each espresso shot? We should burn down a Starbucks, dude.
00:14:12
boboballew
Yeah. Dude, that would be awesome. Like in Fight Club.
00:14:15
Jack Gardner
I think the best option is for us to just commit arson to our local Starbucks store.
00:14:15
boboballew
Yeah.
00:14:21
boboballew
Dude, let's ask the listeners, should we burn down a Starbucks? Let us know.
00:14:24
Jack Gardner
Yeah. and there Smash the like button if you want us to burn down a Starbucks.
00:14:32
Jack Gardner
you
00:14:33
Jack Gardner
I'm down.
00:14:33
boboballew
Dude, if they made good coffee, it would bother me less.
00:14:37
Jack Gardner
Yeah, you can do whatever you want. If you can make a damn cup of coffee.
00:14:39
boboballew
I would be willing to look past it. But the fact they do all this and it's shitty coffee and people still go as much as they do. like i like as ah i The only time so I'm ever at a Starbucks is if it is of the utmost, like I have no other option.
00:14:58
Jack Gardner
Yeah, I just don't understand why it's...
00:14:59
boboballew
Like if I'm on a road trip and I have to go to the bathroom and the only thing is I don't know.
00:15:04
Jack Gardner
I don't understand why it's such like a cultural phenomenon.
00:15:08
boboballew
I think like they were the first people to kind of like make coffee seem like cool or whatever.
00:15:09
Jack Gardner
um
00:15:15
boboballew
So then like people were like, oh, like coffee is cool if you drink it from Starbucks. And for some reason, some people still like hold on to that idea.
00:15:25
Jack Gardner
Yeah, I think we got a firm one down, dude. It's the only way to send our message.
00:15:28
boboballew
Yeah.
00:15:29
Jack Gardner
Typically, I'm not one to resort to, you know, violence or lighting things on fire. But in this case, if you want to have your message heard, like you got to say it loudly. think.
00:15:39
boboballew
Dude, really don't like Starbucks.
00:15:42
Jack Gardner
Yeah, it's the name of the podcast.
00:15:42
boboballew
and Like, Duncan doesn't bother me.
00:15:43
Jack Gardner
Bo hates Starbucks.
00:15:45
boboballew
but and the name episode Like, Duncan doesn't bother me.
00:15:47
Jack Gardner
Yeah.
00:15:49
boboballew
and is there, like, another...
00:15:50
Jack Gardner
Because Dunkin's not trying. It's more so than anything that they're doing. It's just like the vibe.
00:15:54
boboballew
There's no pretentiousness. It's like, we're a fast food restaurant.
00:15:55
Jack Gardner
Yeah, the vibe that they're trying to portray.
00:15:57
boboballew
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:58
Jack Gardner
Yeah. Dunkin Donuts, I can go in there and get an eclair and then a better cup of coffee than Starbucks.
00:16:05
boboballew
Yeah, you get like a shitty donut and they don't pretend it's like an amazing donut, but they are like good in like the shitty way. And then you get like a decent cup of coffee and it's cheaper. And with the American Express credit card that we have, you get $7 and free Dunkin' a month.
00:16:21
Jack Gardner
Are you serious?
00:16:22
boboballew
Yeah, you you should go through the membership like reward stuff.
00:16:24
Jack Gardner
I've looked through them. I never saw that one.
00:16:26
boboballew
I have a Dunkin' thing.
00:16:26
Jack Gardner
$7 and I don't have a Dunkin Donuts near me. So that's kind of unfortunate.
00:16:30
boboballew
Well, you better go find one, dude.
00:16:31
Jack Gardner
Yeah. might, I might need to, might need to move dude.
00:16:32
boboballew
Yeah. Yeah, I almost never use it because i don't buy coffee out that much. But every time I remember I go get Duncan.
00:16:41
Jack Gardner
I have two Starbucks right next to me.
00:16:44
boboballew
Dude, it's ridiculous how many start like how they don't put each other out of business and stuff.
00:16:46
Jack Gardner
There. Dude, we got to burn them down, man.
00:16:49
boboballew
Austin's probably a good like coffee shop city, though.
00:16:52
Jack Gardner
Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of coffee shops in Austin. So I
Trendy Food Experiences
00:16:56
Jack Gardner
think it is. I'm just not not a big coffee guy. Oh,
00:16:59
boboballew
Are you a pastry guy? Like, do you get a pastry at a coffee shop?
00:17:02
Jack Gardner
you know, I might i might ah dip my fingers into the the pastry ah display.
00:17:06
boboballew
What do you go for?
00:17:08
Jack Gardner
Something sweet, cake pop.
00:17:12
boboballew
it's fucked up, man.
00:17:13
Jack Gardner
That's what pisses me off, actually, more than anything in Starbucks is every time i go in there, I see cake pops. I get PTSD.
00:17:22
boboballew
Do you actually get cake pops, though?
00:17:23
Jack Gardner
No, I don't.
00:17:25
boboballew
Dude, cake pops? like Like, in the situation that we're referencing here, we were at a party and there were cake pops.
00:17:32
Jack Gardner
This is deep Toxos lore.
00:17:33
boboballew
I'll eat a cake.
00:17:35
boboballew
with this is definitely come up on pod.
00:17:37
Jack Gardner
Probably like 10 times.
00:17:37
boboballew
So hopefully people remember because I don't know if we need to like recap the story. But in a situation like that, if there's a cake pop, sure, I'll eat a cake pop. Right. But like, if I'm out, and I like, I would never pay for a cake pop.
00:17:54
Jack Gardner
Yeah, I wouldn't either, especially after what happened.
00:17:56
boboballew
I don't really see them anywhere but Starbucks.
00:17:58
Jack Gardner
Yeah, they always have them Starbucks and it pisses me off every time. I want to send you a picture every time I see It's so funny.
00:18:04
boboballew
You should. But then that would that would be incriminating yourself of showing that you go to Starbucks a lot.
00:18:08
Jack Gardner
It's... Yeah, it's kind of funny looking back at that that that's kind of like a big part of our friendship is that moment.
00:18:17
boboballew
Yeah.
00:18:17
Jack Gardner
You know, like...
00:18:18
boboballew
Well, we were already like pretty... so We were very solidified as friends at that point.
00:18:20
Jack Gardner
Yeah. Oh, yeah, we were like good friends, but just...
00:18:22
boboballew
Yeah, we were like hanging out all the time. But that was just like a funny moment that like...
00:18:27
Jack Gardner
It's a key moment I like think back on a lot. it It's just so funny.
00:18:30
boboballew
Totally. Yeah, because we had been like... friends for years at that point, but it is like one of those things like now it's like when we think back on early friendship, that's like.
00:18:40
Jack Gardner
Yeah, cake pop is... ah Yeah, that's funny. um Okay, so yeah, we'll we'll burn down a Starbucks, though. That sounds good to me.
00:18:49
boboballew
But what pastry do you go for like at a coffee shop?
00:18:50
Jack Gardner
um I don't know. i like I like sweet stuff. I don't think I...
00:18:54
boboballew
Yes, I am.
00:18:56
Jack Gardner
I don't I like s scones.
00:18:57
boboballew
I dude, I'm a scone guy myself.
00:18:57
Jack Gardner
Big scone guy.
00:19:00
boboballew
Personally, i love a scone.
00:19:00
Jack Gardner
Oh, oh.
00:19:02
boboballew
yeah
00:19:02
Jack Gardner
Indubitably. but kind of What kind of scone you mess around with?
00:19:06
boboballew
Hmm. I don't know. I I'm a big fan of like, like a blueberry scone. I had a scone the other day at a coffee shop.
00:19:15
Jack Gardner
Ooh.
00:19:16
boboballew
I saw the new Jurassic world movie and I've been trying to make these videos where I review movies.
00:19:20
Jack Gardner
Yeah, I saw your video.
00:19:20
boboballew
So I walked.
00:19:22
Jack Gardner
That was funny.
00:19:22
boboballew
Yeah. And, um, so I went to a coffee shop after the movie to like write it and like plan filming it. And I got a cup of coffee and I got a like, They had like three s scones. They had a plain scone. They had like an oat and some pretentious like fruit that was basically a raisin. And then like they had like another one.
00:19:42
boboballew
and That shit pisses me off so much when they like they try and like be like fancy, but it's like just a raisin or whatever. you know what I mean? um And I asked the guy working.
00:19:54
boboballew
um I shouldn't have asked. I hate when I do this, but sometimes I'm like, I kind of am leaning towards one, but I'm not like super sold. And I'll be like, Oh, which one's your favorite?
00:20:05
boboballew
And then they tell me the one I, one I wouldn't have gotten. And then I feel like i have to order the one they just told me. You know what I mean? and Like i ask, like hoping they're going to like affirm my
Pancake Preferences Debate
00:20:16
boboballew
decision.
00:20:16
boboballew
And then I'm like, fuck, I guess I'll get the, Oh, like weird raisin one.
00:20:19
Jack Gardner
is Oh, bullshit, yeah.
00:20:21
boboballew
It was fine. But, um, like a blueberry scone or like a cranberry orange scone or like, like, um, a coffee shop.
00:20:28
Jack Gardner
one Cranberry orange is nice.
00:20:32
boboballew
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:33
Jack Gardner
Okay, I'm glad you're on the fruity sweet vibes instead of like like chocolate.
00:20:37
boboballew
I went to a coffee shop today before I went to the grocery store. i didn't get coffee, but they have really good sandwiches. And I was like, eh, fuck it. i'm about to move out of this neighborhood. I like their sandwiches. This might be the last time I get a sandwich from here.
00:20:50
boboballew
So I went in and got a sandwich and they have a bunch of pastries and stuff. And they had a morning cardamom roll, which was basically they just couldn't admit to themselves that they were set. They made cinnamon rolls.
00:21:02
boboballew
You know, ah sometimes my neighborhood pisses me off.
00:21:06
Jack Gardner
Yes.
00:21:06
boboballew
So so and <unk> like it's there's nothing wrong with a cinnamon roll.
00:21:06
Jack Gardner
ah Yeah.
00:21:13
boboballew
Dude, I went to an ice cream shop in my neighborhood. Like a month, a couple months ago with a friend, we like, do you remember when I ran that race?
00:21:22
Jack Gardner
yes yeah
00:21:23
boboballew
me Me and one of my buddies who lives in my neighborhood, we like we're like, let's get and and go to ah get ice cream as like a treat after we ran the race. I went to an ice cream shop in my neighborhood. And and my neighborhood being the neighborhood that it is, Bushwick, they had all like fancy flavors. like They didn't have like cookies and cream or cookie dough or anything like that. they had The most normal flavor they had that day was lemon poppy seed.
00:21:52
boboballew
ice cream, which I will say was quite good, but they had
00:21:54
Jack Gardner
But that is interesting that for ice cream, that that's the most normal one.
00:21:59
boboballew
Yeah, it that should be like, you should have all normal flavors. And then I'll give you like one or two, like we're kind of like swinging here. And that should be like a swing flavor, in my opinion.
00:22:10
boboballew
But that was the most normal flavor. They had a flavor called Waldmeister.
00:22:15
Jack Gardner
What is that?
00:22:16
boboballew
I asked the lady that question. I said, what's Waldmeister? And then she looked at me and she said, it would be easier for you to try it than for me to explain it to you.
00:22:27
boboballew
If you can't explain what a flavor of ice cream is, you shouldn't have it as a flavor of ice cream. That's such bullshit, dude.
00:22:32
Jack Gardner
Wolfmeister. Yeah, that does kind of piss me off.
00:22:35
boboballew
I was... It made me so fucking mad, dude. Like, like this is such horseshit. This I was like, I ate it was like a decent flavor of ice cream.
00:22:47
boboballew
So it's like eating it. But I was so mad at it the whole time. too It's like this is.
00:22:51
Jack Gardner
yeah It's like you can just be normal ice cream.
00:22:53
boboballew
Yeah, just have normal fucking flavors. Like, oh, my God, dude, it made me so mad. I can't wait to leave my neighborhood.
00:23:00
Jack Gardner
That's so funny. I was just thinking of um whenever I was in Barcelona, I had these like, it was like a chocolate croissant every day. I found one similar online, but it's basically just like, here, it's like this.
00:23:16
Jack Gardner
It's on Pinterest. Let me send you a link.
00:23:17
boboballew
Can I be honest with you while you pull this up?
00:23:17
Jack Gardner
But it's basically,
00:23:20
boboballew
Chocolate croissants, little overrated in my opinion.
00:23:20
Jack Gardner
Yeah.
00:23:22
Jack Gardner
Dude, that I would have never been into it because I'm not a huge like chocolate pastry guy, but I was having one of these like every day when I was doing the study abroad.
00:23:29
boboballew
These do look quite good.
00:23:31
Jack Gardner
It was so good. um But that reminds me, were you so Kelly and I were having this big debate. This is probably like five years ago of chocolate chip pancakes versus blueberry pancakes.
00:23:43
Jack Gardner
Do you remember this?
00:23:44
boboballew
Oh, yeah, I've, I've like kind of chirped in on this debate over the years, for sure.
00:23:49
Jack Gardner
what was your What was your stance again?
00:23:51
boboballew
Blubbery.
00:23:53
Jack Gardner
Yeah, of course.
00:23:54
boboballew
Yeah, chocolate's too much.
00:23:54
Jack Gardner
And it was kind of funny. Yeah, and it's like, it's for children. Like a chocolate chip pancake.
00:23:58
boboballew
Yeah.
00:24:00
Jack Gardner
Like, what are 12?
00:24:01
boboballew
Like if there's a chocolate chip pancake, I'll have a couple bites. But like, I'm like, I just am eating chocolate at this point.
00:24:07
Jack Gardner
Yeah, it was kind of funny, though, because we were both like so passionate that the other person was wrong.
00:24:13
boboballew
Yeah, yeah.
00:24:13
Jack Gardner
I was like, dude, America is going to agree with me. So we made an Instagram post and it was like exactly 50-50. It's like the most the most evenly divided thing I've ever seen in my life.
00:24:24
Jack Gardner
Like, I think we got like 100 responses and it was literally 50-50.
00:24:26
boboballew
I go I go blueberry every time. If, if those are my two options, I would go like, um, banana over chocolate chip too.
00:24:29
Jack Gardner
Dude, of course you have to.
00:24:36
Jack Gardner
Ooh.
00:24:37
boboballew
I'm
00:24:37
Jack Gardner
I've had a cinnamon roll. or what do you call it? A morning cardamom pancake.
00:24:40
boboballew
morning cardamom pancake.
00:24:43
Jack Gardner
I one of those ones. It's is nice. From Kirby Lane.
00:24:46
boboballew
I gotta be honest though. The morning cardamom rule. It was very good.
00:24:48
Jack Gardner
Fire. Yeah, i I can imagine, dude.
00:24:49
boboballew
Yeah. But I was like, this is just a cinnamon roll.
00:24:53
Jack Gardner
If you have the gall to call a cinnamon roll morning cardamom, it better be good.
00:25:00
Jack Gardner
This
00:25:00
boboballew
And then I had a um a white fish salad sandwich on a baguette.
00:25:06
Jack Gardner
No shit. They called it whitefish.
00:25:07
boboballew
yeah but Yeah. Well, it's like a very like New York kind of thing.
00:25:09
Jack Gardner
Like
00:25:11
boboballew
It's just like a white fish, but made like kind of like chicken salad, you know, with like mayo and all that stuff in it.
00:25:15
Jack Gardner
house like tuna?
00:25:17
boboballew
I don't think it's tuna. I don't know what kind of fish it is.
00:25:20
Jack Gardner
I thought whitefish was tuna.
00:25:20
boboballew
um Tuna is a white fish.
00:25:25
Jack Gardner
True.
00:25:26
boboballew
White fish salad. um Wild river tweed sea trout.
00:25:32
Jack Gardner
Well, there you go. All right. Um, You learn something new.
00:25:37
boboballew
Because tuna ah tuna would be tuna salad.
00:25:41
Jack Gardner
See, that's what I thought. This was another situation, like a morning cardamom situation where it was.
00:25:45
boboballew
No, no.
00:25:46
Jack Gardner
OK, I see. All right.
00:25:48
boboballew
I do love tuna salad, though.
00:25:48
Jack Gardner
um
00:25:50
boboballew
Like a tuna melt. That's a pretty good sandwich.
00:25:52
Jack Gardner
That's one of those things that is really good, but can also be really bad. Like sometimes tune us out. I'm like, this is the worst thing that has ever existed.
00:25:59
boboballew
i have to You have to pick your spots with it.
00:26:02
Jack Gardner
Yeah, it's got to be good.
00:26:02
boboballew
Like, yeah. But when it is good, it's really good.
00:26:06
Jack Gardner
This reminds me, um all the food talk. Have you seen those like 12 year old kids who have the podcast where they talk about food? I think they're called like MD, MD foodie boys or something.
00:26:14
boboballew
I'm aware of it.
00:26:18
Jack Gardner
It's the dumbest shit I've ever seen. It's so funny. They'll be like, what do you think about like Cool Ranch Doritos? And one of them be like, I've never tried them. Another one will be like, pretty good. And that's like the entire clip.
00:26:29
Jack Gardner
It's so funny, dude.
00:26:30
boboballew
Dude, I had um the purple bag of Doritos yesterday. What a chip.
00:26:36
Jack Gardner
Yeah. Do you know about Chubb Perm?
00:26:39
boboballew
ah No.
00:26:40
Jack Gardner
He's one of the MD Foodie Boys. I'll show you a picture of him. Yep. We paused briefly, but we're back. So, yeah, anyway, this...
00:26:48
boboballew
We are.
00:26:51
Jack Gardner
I don't have a lot to say about the MD Foodie Boys. It's just ah a phenomenon I i don't understand. And I think it won't last long, personally.
00:26:59
boboballew
Yeah, they're really popular, aren't they?
00:27:01
Jack Gardner
Yeah, but just from the clips I've seen, like, the conversation is just... not interesting and they would literally ask yeah i think so but they would literally ask the kids be like what's your favorite vegetable and one of them's like i don't eat vegetables i've never had one and that's like the whole the whole thing like all right so yeah it's pretty funny but maybe we should we should find more of a lane and just start reviewing food
00:27:06
boboballew
It's the novelty of them being children, I guess.
00:27:21
boboballew
co Cool, cool, cool.
00:27:29
boboballew
Dude, I tried that recently on Instagram and Instagram was like, no, you don't do this.
00:27:35
Jack Gardner
We could just review like the sounds that food make when you when you chew on it.
00:27:40
boboballew
Oh, that's interesting.
00:27:40
Jack Gardner
Like ASMR. ah Get really close to the mic and just oh
00:27:44
boboballew
Dude, I hate ASMR.
00:27:48
Jack Gardner
be like...
00:27:48
Jack Gardner
Dude, there's a there's a mechanical keyboard ASMR stuff. Would you like it like this?
00:27:48
boboballew
Dude, it grosses me out so much.
00:27:52
boboballew
Well, that's that's sick ASMR.
00:27:55
Jack Gardner
hello
00:27:56
boboballew
Oh, dudes. If you were just clicking, I could do it. i hate that.
00:28:04
boboballew
I hate that shit. It grosses me out so much.
00:28:05
Jack Gardner
Dude, that would be kind of funny if you do like glazed donut ASMR. just like... Oh, ah I'm gonna throw up.
00:28:13
boboballew
Dude, you know what would be sick ASL?
00:28:20
Jack Gardner
Nathan's hot dog eating ASMR.
00:28:22
boboballew
You know it would be sick ASMR though? Morning cardamom ASMR.
00:28:26
Jack Gardner
The morning carnival. That would be kind of a funny series where you just eat shitty food and make ASMR for it.
00:28:37
Jack Gardner
Oh my gosh.
00:28:39
boboballew
Dude, I went to i have a bucket list of restaurants in my neighborhood that I want to go to before I move.
00:28:44
Jack Gardner
Mm-hmm.
00:28:45
boboballew
And i I went to one the other night and i just woke up from a nap and I was like, what do I want to do for dinner? I have food. And then i was like, oh, I'm about to move. So I should start checking off restaurants on this bucket list.
00:28:57
boboballew
And I went to one just like a sit down restaurant by myself before I like went out that night and i like i was like all right like let's like be somewhat responsible here and then i got super carried away the menu and i ordered so much fucking food and then i was like i have to eat every bite and then i did but i left the restaurant i was like oh my god
00:29:19
Jack Gardner
Oh, no.
00:29:25
Jack Gardner
Man, there's this um Indian place in Austin that I go to. It's it's really good. It's nothing like super fancy, but it's a really good restaurant. um
00:29:34
Jack Gardner
But yeah, I don't think so either. It needs to not be like, it's got to be like kind of nice
00:29:34
boboballew
Indian food doesn't need to be fancy, I think.
Discovering Indian Cuisine
00:29:40
boboballew
Yes, yeah.
00:29:40
Jack Gardner
because Indian, bad Indian food can be really bad.
00:29:43
Jack Gardner
But good yeah, good Indian food, those top three foods for me, though.
00:29:43
boboballew
And fuck up your stomach and shit.
00:29:47
Jack Gardner
I love it.
00:29:48
boboballew
It's so good.
00:29:48
Jack Gardner
um But this place I go, every time I go there, I eat like a full thing and then a bunch of naan. And then like i'll I'll go on a Friday night or something like, yeah, after we should like go do this.
00:30:00
Jack Gardner
And then every time after without fail, I'm like, oh, my God.
00:30:02
boboballew
Nope. No, no way. what um What do you get?
00:30:09
Jack Gardner
Dude, i'm I'm a big fan of just the tikka masala, the classic.
00:30:12
boboballew
Dude, yeah, shut up and play the hits, you know? Like...
00:30:15
Jack Gardner
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I asked them one time, like, what percentage of revenue tikka masala accounted for at the restaurant. The guy's like, it's got to be like 80%.
00:30:25
boboballew
Tikka masala, butter chicken. Like, I get it. Like, there's other Indian food.
00:30:28
Jack Gardner
Which is butter chicken's like the exact same thing, too.
00:30:30
boboballew
Yeah, it's like the same shit, right?
00:30:31
Jack Gardner
With peppers. Yeah, I think so.
00:30:33
boboballew
So it's like, i love both those things and I tend to order them the most. And I'll try and mix it up sometimes. but um But, and the other stuff is super good too.
00:30:44
boboballew
But like tikka masala or whatever is just like... Yeah.
00:30:47
Jack Gardner
Whenever I had tikka masala for the first time, it was literally like a ratatouille moment. I was like, this flavor is unbelievable.
00:30:51
boboballew
Yeah.
00:30:54
Jack Gardner
And I probably have told you about this probably on podcast before, but the first time I had Indian food was in Denton. And it was like one of those like bad Indian places. Like it was kind of like Chipotle style where they were just like scoop some slop under your, and it was nasty.
00:31:06
boboballew
Oh, sure, yeah.
00:31:09
Jack Gardner
And I was like, oh, I guess I just don't like Indian food. And then um i went in San Francisco, and there was this dude who was – um he was an Indian guy who was doing his, he was like from India, but he was studying in the U S for college. And he was an intern also.
00:31:24
Jack Gardner
And we're like good friends throughout the internship. And he's like, dude, you got to try Indian food again. So we went to this nice Indian restaurant and I, and he was like, just get tikka masala. And I had it. And I was like, Oh my God, this is like the best thing I've ever had in my life.
00:31:34
boboballew
Yeah.
00:31:37
Jack Gardner
It's just such a unique flavor. But then I, so ever since then I was like, it was just kind of funny. Cause my perception of like Indian food was so warped. Cause I just had terrible Indian food.
00:31:47
boboballew
Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Like college, like they're just trying to get as much food out as quickly as possible.
00:31:53
Jack Gardner
Dude, I guess. It was bad, though.
00:31:55
boboballew
Dude, but like Dallas has a lot of Indian people now. So it's like, apparently like the Indian food in Dallas is quite good.
00:32:00
Jack Gardner
I bet it is, man. I bet there's, like, plenty of good Indian food all over the place.
00:32:03
boboballew
Like over by like where my parents like, like used to live like there's like a bunch. My parents moved to Alabama. I don't think they're going to split time that much.
00:32:14
Jack Gardner
Oh, like 100% Alabama
00:32:15
boboballew
I think they're going to like spend a lot of time in Dallas, but I don't think they're going to like keep a house there anymore because they like living in Alabama.
00:32:22
Jack Gardner
okay yeah Interesting.
00:32:26
boboballew
And why would you split time really? You know, if you like, don't think you'll like get your money's worth or whatever.
00:32:29
Jack Gardner
Yeah.
00:32:32
Jack Gardner
Right. Yeah, I guess it makes sense with like your you're a sister's kid. It's a girl. Is that right?
00:32:39
boboballew
It's a girl, Caroline.
00:32:40
Jack Gardner
That's right. Caroline.
00:32:43
boboballew
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:43
Jack Gardner
Boom, boom, boom. Hey, check this out.
00:32:50
Jack Gardner
This week on TalkSauce, Beau talks about his niece.
00:32:54
boboballew
His niece.
00:32:58
Jack Gardner
isn It goes kind of hard.
00:32:59
boboballew
That's fun.
00:33:00
Jack Gardner
but
00:33:00
boboballew
Yeah. Dude, we should spit on that.
00:33:03
Jack Gardner
yeah Next TalkSauce is just going to be 30 minutes of us rapping.
00:33:09
boboballew
Dude, an all rap episode.
00:33:14
Jack Gardner
That would be pretty cool. feel like I've said everything I need to say. Got anything else?
00:33:19
boboballew
Well, one question. Do you think if we'd have kept rapping like we did in high school, like we'd have gotten like good at it and become like famous like white guy rappers?
00:33:21
Jack Gardner
OK.
00:33:29
boboballew
Like Tiger Tribe?
00:33:30
Jack Gardner
There is a niche for it.
00:33:30
boboballew
I think we would have gotten canceled.
00:33:32
Jack Gardner
There's a niche for it. Oh, yeah, definitely.
00:33:35
Jack Gardner
But.
00:33:35
boboballew
It's a myth.
00:33:37
boboballew
The further away we get from that period of time in our lives... And the like when I think about some of the shit, like they're talking about like killing kids we went to school with.
00:33:48
Jack Gardner
completely
00:33:50
Jack Gardner
yeah it's absurd dude yeah
00:33:50
boboballew
It's amazing that no one got in trouble.
00:33:54
boboballew
Like we were like threatening violence on like other rap groups.
00:33:59
Jack Gardner
yeah i think it was so clearly like fake though that it wasn't that big of a deal but yeah don't know
00:34:07
boboballew
Yeah, so wild.
High School Rap Group Nostalgia
00:34:09
boboballew
That was such a funny time. That was like, that is like the thing i like laugh about the most when I think about high school is that we started this like weird movement of like people starting rap groups in high school.
00:34:25
Jack Gardner
Yeah.
00:34:25
boboballew
And we, we definitely were like top dog, but it was like so wild that there was like, like we had like beefs with kids.
00:34:31
Jack Gardner
Yeah,
00:34:35
Jack Gardner
hey it was hilarious. Yeah.
00:34:38
boboballew
So funny. And then like to us, that was like the most important thing happening. But to like other kids in the grade, what the fuck is going on over there?
00:34:51
Jack Gardner
yeah
00:34:52
boboballew
And then remember, there was like a yearbook photo. And then like all these like people who weren't part of Tiger Tribe, like Compton and like it's like not reflective of who was in Tiger Tribe at all.
00:35:05
Jack Gardner
Yeah, man. Good times. Glad they're over, but good times.
00:35:09
boboballew
It's still fun, like, when you were in New York and we and we sent Kelly a diss track.
00:35:11
Jack Gardner
Yeah.
00:35:14
Jack Gardner
that was That was awesome. We should make another Kelly diss track. Nobody listens to this. ah Kelly, if you don't respond to us within... Yeah, I'd
00:35:22
boboballew
oh that's ah
Podcast Response Challenge
00:35:23
boboballew
that's a good... If Kelly doesn't acknowledge this, it's war.
00:35:23
Jack Gardner
yeah
00:35:27
boboballew
Yeah,
00:35:28
Jack Gardner
Yeah, ah you have 30 days um from the release of this podcast.
00:35:31
boboballew
yeah you have one month. We're giving you time. No, from now. So he only has three.
00:35:36
Jack Gardner
So you have like 21 days. You have three weeks it a to respond. Or you're getting another diss track. All right. I think that's a good way to end it I'm going to play this
00:35:47
boboballew
I'd say so.
00:35:51
Jack Gardner
Oh, and Jack, yeah.
00:35:54
boboballew
Ooh. This saga is so good.
00:35:58
Jack Gardner
What a guy. we should try and get him on the pod.
00:36:02
boboballew
Dude.