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Episode 177 - Grim-sby Showing
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We see you hate watchers, and what a treat for you tonight…
Kieran, Tom, and Niall are here to review the embarrassing defeat to Grimsby Town in the League Cup. Need we say more?
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Match Overview: Manchester United vs Grimsby
00:00:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
What an absolute shambles. You join us here on the Daily Manchester United moments after and Bermos' crossbar penalty knocks us out of the second round of the EFL Cup.
00:00:28
Niall
Thank you.
00:00:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
And once again, we find ourselves wondering why we let it get this bad so soon. I, Kieran, am joined by Niall and Tom on this episode. And grab the popcorn. If you're a hate watcher, this is going to be your favourite episode.
00:00:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Tom, you joined the call tonight. You joined in on the the green room, basically saying you were censored furious. I'll start with you,
Reactions to Manchester United's Performance
00:00:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Tom.
00:00:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Take the stage.
00:00:56
Tom Cairns
I'm absolutely cross. Absolutely cross with the performance. i mean, we can't complain about the fact we've got out on penalties because the vast majority of the match, up until the 75th minute when Brian and Bomo got us back into it, we were nowhere near good enough. And I think the heavens had saved Grimsby as well for a period of time.
00:01:13
Tom Cairns
So it kind of kept Grimsby in it up until the end of the match and all the way into penalties. And people say, well, we were just unlucky in the shootout. Yeah, we were unlucky. But in the grand scheme of things, as far as The nature of the match is concerned.
00:01:28
Tom Cairns
Grimsby deserved it all night long. And as for United, well, it really, really mounts more on the pressure of Ruben and Rym.
00:01:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Niall, I'll hand the mic straight to you Your raw reaction after that one.
00:01:43
Niall
I don't think it's hit me yet because i'm ah um I feel like in more of a joking mood than an actual raging furious mood. And and that's probably a nice little little contrast to to Tom over there.
00:01:54
Niall
um I don't know how you're going to mediate this, Kieran, and give your own opinion, but it's going to be a pretty tough one. But it just had everything, didn't it? like Of course, Maguire gets us back into the game like the absolute goat himself, nails his penalty, and then the two sign-ins that we signed missed the two penalties. And...
00:02:11
Niall
It's just classic United. We mentioned it a couple of days ago about if we're well just about two weeks into the season and it's it's turned into an absolute nightmare once again. And I feel like we're back into last season, just a combined season, this whole thing. So I don't think it's hit me yet. I'm getting dogs abuse from every group chat I'm in.
00:02:29
Niall
And I expect that to continue for the next couple of days.
00:02:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep. Yep. Our whole network on the Global Sports Podcast Network is absolutely loving this and probably, yeah, cooking us with just being absolute mincemeat tonight.
00:02:39
Niall
cooking us.
00:02:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
um ah Let's start from the start. We were being pressed efficiently by League Two Grimsby. Now, they are undefeated. in League Two so far this season. They're one of the highest goal scorers in the entire EFL so far this season. They're sort of now in that promotion race at this early stage.
Grimsby's Tactical Dominance
00:03:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
But Niall, how on earth were they able to press United so effectively within the first half an hour ah to to go 2-0 up?
00:03:17
Niall
When you have a centre midfielder that can't turn on the ball, it does make it a lot easier to to press a team. And that's we've been calling it out for a while with Agarthe, but he just got caught so badly in midfield for that first goal.
00:03:29
Niall
And then to be fair to Grimsby, it wasn't any of this long ball stuff. it was It was proper good football and they counter-attacked with serious... But serious kind of danger about them and pace as well. a lovely little clip ball to the back post and Dalos up on the far corner flag, you know, up kind of keeping high and wide, as they would say, but took him about 15 seconds to get back into position.
00:03:51
Niall
And their winger has enough time to take it down and slot it past Onana. I mean... it's just horrendous really at that level, how you can't just get on the ball and and and turn and start to play forward. It's just, some of them are allergic to the ball and it's really, really painful. And it's it's glaring in the Premier League, but it shouldn't be glaring against League Two Grimsby, as you say. And it's just right there sitting in front of your face.
00:04:14
Niall
I think now as the episode gets on, I think I'm going to get more into it. I can feel myself getting more angry as I discuss. I didn't have anyone to discuss this with. And now I'm starting to get to that stage, like come the second half.
00:04:26
Niall
It'll be difficult. But anyway, Ciarán, that's probably how it happened. I think we have a guard in midfield.
00:04:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm going to poke the Nile bear, as it were, to to see what happens. But yeah, the the the first goal is an utter shambles. It's Agate who loses the ball and is not strong enough. you know, this has been a pattern for this team for quite some time.
00:04:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
In the first three games of the season, we are not strong enough. We get pushed off the ball really easily. It's a physical game. Bulk up, for goodness sake. Yeah. And then Dalo is nowhere to be seen, ah defending that right-hand side.
00:04:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Gives all the space in the entire world on that left-hand side then. And it allows Verne to its its ah'd finish at the near post, which Anana probably should be saving.
00:05:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, first game back after injury, first game back after missing out on pre-season. You know, maybe there were still cobwebs, but we'll get more into Anana on that stage. ah Tom, I'll just get your sort of breakdown of the first goal.
Analysis of Defensive and Goalkeeping Errors
00:05:26
Tom Cairns
Well, was a mix-up between Ahmed Ugarte in the midfield, wasn't it? I mean, it was Ahmed that couldn't control it at first, and Ugarte got in the way. That's why Grims were able to press and snatch the ball off us and do what they needed to do.
00:05:37
Tom Cairns
But I also criticised Frederiksen, because I think he has to hold himself accountable for the way he allowed ah Vernon to get on the end so of a brilliant ball in to him and um and put it away. and He had all the space in the world to get that shot away.
00:05:52
Tom Cairns
And it's not all Unana's fault because it's kind of hit straight at him. But I do agree that Unana needed to position himself better. So maybe even just stretch a leg to stop it from going in.
00:06:04
Tom Cairns
If that was buying Deer in the net, still think it would go in?
00:06:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's still going in.
00:06:08
Tom Cairns
you still think it would go in
00:06:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. It needed to be Tom Heaton in goal. I said this on the preview pod. It needed to be Heaton in goal. For goodness sake. Give the, give the youth prospects a chance for goodness sake.
00:06:20
Niall
thank you and needed to be mcginley with a pair of gloves that's why i was calling out in the group chat and kieran you should have got yourself dust them off there and get yourself in because it can't be any worse
00:06:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Yeah.
00:06:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm.
00:06:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm. I'm too injury prone. I've i've wrote ah broken both little fingers. I've, you know, damaged both ligaments and wrists in goal. I would say that was one game, but no, they were mostly all in the back garden. But there you go.
00:06:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, it was shocking. Shocking. ah I think I'm in that jokey mood where it's just like, I can't believe that's just happened. But in the back of my mind... I can actually believe it's just happened.
00:06:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
um That's sort of the first goal done and dusted. That's in the past. The second goal, and I'll lead us on. ah Tom, you said Inanna may be not at fault for the first goal entirely, but he is entirely at fault. if If you venture that far out as a keeper, you need to catch the ball or punch it towards the halfway line, no in-between.
00:07:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he just gets caught flat-footed, and it's one of those where just dribbles across the line, and you just think, what... Did that just happen, Tom, that second goal, honestly?
00:07:25
Tom Cairns
We were discussing Niall, weren't we, at the weekend in terms of Bayern D's positioning for the corner kicks that Fulham would take him and he never looked comfortable.
00:07:34
Niall
Mm-hmm.
00:07:34
Tom Cairns
Onana looked even worse from the set pieces. It's like he's hesitating to come out to get a hand on it. There's got to be some practice on the training ground with that because Onana clearly can't get it right. And this has happened so many times to the point where he just he can't be relied on at all.
00:07:54
Tom Cairns
And at Manchester United, you've got nowhere to hide when making mistakes like this. It's either back your ideas up or face heading for the door.
00:08:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:08:03
Tom Cairns
And Onana this evening, in terms of the way he performed in goal, OK, he may have saved the penalty in the shootout, which is, you know, great. I was feeling quite confident he may have made a couple of saves in the shootout, which would have got us through. i think that's the kind of strength Onana sometimes.
00:08:18
Tom Cairns
But in regards to on-field play, he was nowhere. And i don't think even I don't think he even knows what he needs to be doing when the corner kicks are coming in.
00:08:30
Tom Cairns
He may as well just stay on his line if he's going to keep coming out for attempted punches like that to get the ball away because he can't reach them. It's clear.
00:08:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and he overcommits as well. I understand it's like that so eccentric sweeper keeper. You're going to do things that are just out of the ordinary, but they've got to be pulled off. They have to. You have to get to that ball. well Even if it's punching it away, you know, all the way to the halfway line or out for a throw, anything is better than what just happened.
00:08:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I mean, Nile, take us through your point of view on that on that second goal.
00:09:03
Niall
Well, I think they were doing video analysis during the week on Buy India, but they weren't really making a clear that this is what you shouldn't do, rather than kind of copying what Buy India was doing in terms of his his displays over the last few games.
00:09:17
Niall
Absolutely horrendous. I mean... Completely misses the ball. Doesn't even doesn't even take a man with him either. You know, the the classic phrase, take someone out. He just kind of jumps in the air and ends up on Maguire's back.
00:09:28
Niall
And then, to be fair, I think it was Warren ends up kind of catching the ball and then dribbling, which is fair. They were due bit of luck ah there with how bad the goalkeeping situation was. But Onana throughout the whole thing,
00:09:40
Niall
just like Just get rid of him at this stage. like I just feel like it's ah it's just a cancer among the team. like i mean Bruno at one stage ends up running over and taking a goal kick off him in the second half towards the end of the game.
00:09:55
Niall
ah He also then for the Cunha penalty, Cunha has a chance to win win the game. His first penalty for free United, his first chance to score for United. Walks up to him, hands on the ball, daps him up, gives him a big handshake and a big hug before he's about to take a really important penalty, as if he's already scored it.
00:10:14
Niall
And then Kunio goes and and performs and takes a horrendous penalty and gets saved by by the goalkeeper. um Onana saving one of 12 penalties against Grimsby, unacceptable as well. He got up his hand on about three of them.
00:10:29
Niall
Two of them probably should have been saved further. I don't see any way back. I mean, we mentioned Ciarán about this new Belgian goalkeeper that could be coming in. His is price range probably gone up another 20, 30 mil after watching again tonight.
00:10:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay.
00:10:42
Niall
The club's like, you want it for 23? You're going to need to pay 73, lad. No problem. So we're in dire straits when it comes to a lot of places, but but the goalkeeper one is is just absolutely shocking.
00:10:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, yeah, what tails between the legs at halftime. and And rightfully so. you know i i It looked like at that point it was going to be MK Dons all over again.
00:11:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Because the you know the last time, that's that's two second rounds of the EFL Cup in a row. Correct me if I'm wrong, Tom, that we've been knocked out of that stage. And the only reason we're in this stage is because we we were so bad in the previous season that we don't get a buy into the third round. Like, it's just...
00:11:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay. Look, we went into halftime, tails between our legs. Our whole a little group chat was just like, what did that just happen? Just completely shell-shocked. ah Big changes were needed at halftime.
00:11:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we'll discuss more about that after a quick little break.
00:11:37
Niall
Thank you.
00:11:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll be back after this.
Impact of Halftime Changes and Weather
00:12:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Three changes made at halftime. Manuel Ugarte was taken off. Matthias De Ligt replaced him. Tyler Frederiksen also brought off. ah Bruno Fernandes came on and Patrick Dorgou off for Brian Umbermo.
00:12:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And now that seemed to change the game, albeit I think the the Heavens opening with Aidan Heavens still on the pitch, really added something, as Tom mentioned in in the first part before the break.
00:13:09
Niall
Yeah, I mean, even with the changes, it took us ages to get going as well. And, you know, the torrential downpour didn't help. But, you know, as Ty from Arsenal Fan TV would say, you know, we we have to remember, guys, it was raining, you know?
00:13:23
Niall
So...
00:13:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's raining for both teams.
00:13:24
Niall
It's raining for both teams. Thank you. So, yeah, i mean, even even that excuse is is difficult to use. But, ah yeah, there was a bit of aquaplaning. Yeah, no, it was horrendous. It was still really bad for 20, 25 minutes. and The Emblemo goal was just a bit of individual quality.
00:13:41
Niall
and It's what we've seen over the last few seasons with Brentford, being able to take on your man, something that not a lot of our players can do, and then kind of find that gap, find that gap between the defenders and place it into the far corner.
00:13:43
Tom Cairns
Thank
00:13:53
Niall
It was a great finish. um And that did kind of spur us on then for the last 10 minutes where we actually did really pin Grimsby in um and start to create lots of chances. And when I say lots of chances, I mean corners for Maguire.
00:14:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, yeah we'll get onto a Maguire's corner shortly. I'll just see from Tom as well. I mean, as Niall said, it's a ah little bit of individual brilliance in you know a game where we're 2-0 down to reli Grimsby Town.
00:14:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
But that was enough to sort of spur us on. But it only took us 75 minutes to get into this game.
00:14:26
Tom Cairns
He did. And Brian Mbomo was at the right place at the right time, really, in terms of driving the ball forward and cut back inside and put it past the goalkeeper to make it 2-1. And that was what was going to galvanise that United team.
00:14:40
Tom Cairns
And then, obviously, Harry Maguire came up with the goods from a corner kick once again. It kind of reminded me of that one against Porto in the Europa League last season where he equalised to get that 3-3 draw, didn't he, in the league phase?
00:14:53
Tom Cairns
so So Harry Maguire again, scoring when it matters.
00:14:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah, not quite Bilbao, but you know, there's levels to our games, there's levels to our game and, you know,
00:15:00
Tom Cairns
No, of course.
00:15:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
half celebrating an equaliser against Grimsby. You know, there's there's levels here. There's levels here. I was actually quite impressed with Christy Pym, the Grimsby Town goalkeeper. He was fantastic in the game. He made some really good saves, especially in that second half and really was keeping Grimsby Town in the game but and was the reason they were able to make it to penalties in the first place. I mean, he had a fantastic game and, you know, that's what happens when you have someone in goal who is a goalkeeper.
00:15:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, we need to figure this out. um Let's talk about the second goal then, because Maguire's the hero once again, coming in in those clutch moments against a League Two side. Tom, I'll get your reaction. Was there much of a reaction on your end?
00:15:47
Tom Cairns
It was more like a relief rather than reaction. You know, I was sort of like, but I wasn't like over exuberant. I wasn't over exuberant in a way where I was just relieved that we got back into it because I was quite confident that when it got to penalties, I thought we were going to just sneak through because I thought Onana would at least save a few of them to get us over the line.
00:16:12
Tom Cairns
But yeah, Maguire, but you know, in that far post, it was a brilliant header and he's good at that, is Maguire. He knows what he can do and from set pieces like that. I think in a way it feels a little bit similar to the winner he scored against Leicester in the FA Cup last season.
00:16:27
Tom Cairns
Albeit he was offside that time around, but in a similar situation where the ball came in from a free kick and he was there on that far post. And he's good at making those kind of runs, is Maguire, in situations
Key Moments: Maguire's Goal and Ahmad's Performance
00:16:37
Tom Cairns
like that. So...
00:16:38
Tom Cairns
Hats off to him. His season's up and running, with a goal at least anyway. We spoke about our top scorers this season, Mbamo and Rodrigo Manez.
00:16:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's terrible. That's absolutely terrible. um Oh, well, never mind. You know, Harry Maguire's our joint top goalscorer this season. You'll never sing that. um But yeah, I mean, it was it was a clutch moment. Niall, how were you feeling at that, you know, St. Maguire there again with the header at the back post?
00:17:06
Niall
Yeah, I mean, it was kind of inevitable, really. Like, you could feel the goal was coming. We probably could have had two or three in those multiple corner attempts that we had, and Maguire pretty much got his head on all them.
00:17:18
Niall
What I did find strange was, for for one of them, De Ligt was hauled down. The man got a yellow card, but then we didn't get a penalty, and Mount was running up to take the ball.
00:17:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:17:26
Niall
So is that because the ball wasn't technically in play yet?
00:17:30
Niall
Is that why?
00:17:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Correct, yeah.
00:17:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was a dead ball. so because
00:17:32
Niall
It feels wrong, though. On the run-up, it feels wrong. like It may as well be in play.
00:17:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
If you you want a penalty for that, if you're demanding a penalty against League 2 Grimsby, your head's gone, mate. I'm sorry. It's just it.
00:17:43
Niall
We are sixteenth in the league. We need to take what we can get.
00:17:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
like
00:17:46
Niall
Muniz is our top goal scorer, so we we do need any help we can get, but...
00:17:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, dear.
00:17:51
Niall
Al Maguire, to be fair, he's an absolute legend. like is is He's completely turned his career around at United. um The penalty that he took as well, I mean, all you keep thinking about is that penalty he took for England in the Euros, stuck it in the top corner, just stuck it in the other top corner tonight.
00:18:09
Niall
um lots of Lots of confidence in what he's playing with. And yeah, it's um it's a pretty sad indictment, though, that he's our only option when it comes to getting a goal in the last minute.
00:18:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, I agree. I mean, some of the changes before that second goal, Joshua Zerksi coming on for Ahmad Diallo. It's not often we said, Ahmad, you know, sometimes he has a quiet game and sometimes he's not making the impact we know he can.
00:18:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
But today, Tom, he this was one of his worst. Zerksi came on and actually looked really good, holding up the play, able to bring other players in, just like I thought he might have done. If he came on 10 minutes earlier, don't know, does he make even more of an impact there?
00:18:50
Tom Cairns
He looked a bit lost, didn't he, did Ahmed tonight? And I don't know why. I don't if it's just of the fact that Grinsby were going to be so compact. And you would have thought that, considering that Ahmed has played in the Championship, in a league where teams are going to be more compact compared to how Premier League teams are set up, you thought it'd be all right with.
00:19:08
Tom Cairns
Tonight, he absolutely struggled. And I can't fathom why that is. And you know he's got to really pick himself up at the weekend against Burnley. And if we don't come away with a strong result, huge question is going to be asked again, um on Raymond Amarim. I'm just looking at stats for, um, for Amadealo, because he played 82 minutes before he got subbed off.
00:19:30
Tom Cairns
Uh, how many passes did he make? Well, accurate passes. It says on here, 40 out of 42 accurate passes. It doesn't feel right, does it?
00:19:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
It didn't feel like that. No, it didn't feel like that.
00:19:39
Tom Cairns
It, it didn't, it didn't feel like that at all, did it? He's had three shots in the match. Um, I don't think, I think two of them were on target actually. And, uh, He made one defensive contribution as well. um Yeah, I think he looked lost tonight, did Ahmed. And he needs some form of confident boost again going into the weekend.
00:20:02
Tom Cairns
Do I think he's going to end up starting against Burnley? I'm confident he will do because, you know, it's a Premier League game. It's different to how you play against teams in the cup.
00:20:12
Tom Cairns
United just needs some form of reprieve against Burnley. But even if we do come away with a win, It's not going to feel like we're but out of the woods by any means.
00:20:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. nile is is that any const you know Is there any link the fact that Ahmad was started higher up the pitch that maybe consequently caused you know maybe a little bit of an underperformance, a major underperformance, with Ahmad and Dallow starting on the right-hand side?
00:20:41
Niall
I don't know. I think ah lot they played a lot there last season. and We've only seen Ahmad kind play back in that right wing back position ah once once a season in the last game with him by Amo in front. So um I think it would actually suit him more more freedom, less defensive responsibilities. So no real reason why he didn't really perform.
00:21:01
Niall
um to what he can do. Obviously last year he was hitting a serious run of form. So I don't know if we could expect him to reach the same heights every game um going into this season. But yeah, it was it was way more than Ahmad that were underperforming this evening.
00:21:16
Niall
um And yeah, just in the in the mean and the meantime there, just checking X on Twitter and it's not looking good, boys.
00:21:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah you shouldn't You shouldn't have done that, no.
00:21:23
Niall
It is... It's not looking good.
00:21:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
You shouldn't have done that.
00:21:26
Niall
And I'm not even playing. And it's not looking good.
00:21:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:28
Niall
and The video of Amram playing Subutio on the sideline when Mount is coming on is not not not going to age well.
00:21:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
you You pointed that out, Tom, as well. He was playing battleships.
00:21:38
Niall
It's ah it ahs just not a good look with the pouring rain. And he's flicking little positions around on the on the green board, hoping that his back three will work.
00:21:50
Niall
Ah, poor man, honestly. Should have stayed in Lisbon. But anyway...
00:21:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
he was He was only one umbrella away from getting an absolute Steve McLaren there. But anyway, yeah.
00:21:58
Niall
Steve McLaren on it, yeah.
00:21:59
Tom Cairns
yeah
00:22:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
And when it comes to penalties, I don't know about you, but nothing inspires confidence in me in taking a penalty like my manager. deciding to not look on and sit on the bench and just sort of head down.
00:22:14
Niall
And hide, hide in the background.
00:22:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and high. That's not a good look, is it? Especially when you know you're coming up against a team that have been for, let's say, 60 minutes of that game, the better side with three divisions between you, Niall.
00:22:18
Niall
No.
00:22:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's not a good look. And you know if you're stepping up to take a penalty, that's you're looking to your manager for inspiration. If he's on the sideline cowering away, what are you supposed to do with that?
00:22:40
Niall
And I like Amram and I like a lot of the things he does, particularly in the media and kind of playing the role as a manager. But that one, that one didn't sit well at all. ah It's Grimsby.
00:22:52
Niall
It's Grimsby in the cup. Go out and face face the reality of it. Your team's underperformed, whether it's your fault, whether it's the player's fault. Go out and front it and sitting there for guts of 20 minutes, maybe that penalty shootout was, and just to consistently stay in the back and hide and kind of look to kind of praying that that we're going to get through the game you know the players shouldn't need inspiration they're professional players around £300 a week £300,000 a week is I mean they were they were all they were playing like they were £300 week
00:23:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
<unk> because like we're massively underpaying them then, aren't we?
00:23:26
Niall
But optics-wise, it looked it looked horrendous. and It looks even worse now when when you lose as well. ah you know If you win, you can turn anything. You're like, oh, yeah, he's he's an absolute genius. This is what he does. like um You can turn anything into into a positive when you win. and But it just it looks horrendous, and it's not going to help him. And it's not it's not what you'd want from for a manager of United, I don't think.
00:23:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, Tom, I'll get your thoughts on that. I'll ask you the same question about Amber. and what what What did you make of that?
00:23:58
Tom Cairns
Well, I said in the chat about the fact that, you know when he was doing the positioning thing, I thought it was playing a game of battleships. and The only problem was he was watching his ship being sunk by the mariners.
00:24:06
Niall
and
00:24:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh.
00:24:09
Niall
ah Tom here we go ah here we go ah
00:24:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh. You sunk my battleship. Oh. and Oh, yeah.
00:24:16
Niall
he's been cooking that up he's been cooking that up I like it though I like it yeah
00:24:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
has. He has. aid had Oh dear. I mean, let's just take a second to let that sink in. What's going to sink in first? That pun or the result tonight?
00:24:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll let you be the judge of that. um Right, the penalties
Penalty Shootout and Missed Opportunities
00:24:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
then. I mean, on penalties we lose by. And so it's fair to say the majority of the penalties, well, it is very fair say because it's exactly right, were missed by United players.
00:24:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Kuna missed the chance to win the shootout entirely.
00:24:47
Niall
That's normally how it goes.
00:24:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:24:48
Niall
Whoever misses the most. Michael Owens on the podcast.
00:24:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm I am. Look, we needed that expert level of punditry. Come on. Come on. What are we doing here? ah Yeah, I'll never financially recover from that, will I?
00:25:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, well. Oh, well. ah But then, ah yeah, of all the players to miss it, Umbermo. That was a shock to me. Crashed it against the crossbar, Tom.
00:25:12
Tom Cairns
Yeah, he just put too much power into it, really. If he could just side-foot it into the net, it felt to me like players were just gingerly side-footing the ball into the net every time you just watch it. It's just like, oh, well, it's kind of stuff you see on the training ground all the time, or you see it even in Sunday League.
00:25:28
Tom Cairns
Well, and Bermot just put too much power into it compared to the first time that he did it, and it totally backfired.
00:25:37
Tom Cairns
Simple as that.
00:25:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, yeah, Niall.
00:25:42
Niall
I can't get over the Onana dapping up Cunha first. I mean, that is that is the chance to just end it. Not not have to go through the merry-go-round of everyone taking a second penalty. it's just It's just shocking. I mean, Cunha's penalty was horrendous as well. like I'm not completely blaming Onana, but it's a bit of a...
00:26:00
Niall
Bruno Fernandes, Kavanagh referee situation, again, where you shouldn't be put off by by anything um and just go over and and put the ball in the net. The emblem penalty is poor. He nearly kind of chips it onto the crossbar, like like Tom said.
00:26:14
Niall
um The lads are after texting me here as well about the Grimsby keeper on his post post-match interview on Sky has said, I'm a United fan, so I'm half human, to be honest.
00:26:25
Niall
LAUGHTER And he's disappointed that he didn't save more penalties. So, you know, looks like Grinsby didn't even care too much about it and they came out the one inside. and They seem to be loving life. The manager was laughing the whole way through as well.
00:26:38
Niall
Complete kind of stark contrast to Amarim in the background there. But... ah There was a was a sense of inevitability really when it went that long that it wasn't going to go our way. It was one of those ones you needed a nice professional five three kind of penalty shootout. But ah once Onana stepped up, I think it was um wasn't looking good for us.
00:27:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, no, it wasn't at all. I'm just trying to scroll back and see who it was who mentioned it ah in the chat. It was one of our social media guys, Josh, who was saying, you know, when it got to the keepers, it was just a flashback of the 2021 Europa League final. It was like, oh, you know.
00:27:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Anana going up to take a penalty. I mean, I know as a keeper, the odds are stacked against you because let's face it, 12 yards out, you're not allowed to one foot off or you're allowed one foot on the line. But besides from that, the odd odds are so heavily stacked against you now. But I counted at least three penalties he got a hand to.
00:27:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
One of them, he got both hands to.
00:27:37
Niall
yeah riddle me that that's hard to do like two hands to it and then it still end up in the net um I don't know i don't know what it is I'm afraid to say more I'm not a fan I hope he leaves I hope we get a new keeper
00:27:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
and he's He's scared of not saying more. I think he's just said enough there.
00:27:55
Niall
yeah Him and Agarte can...
00:27:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:27:59
Niall
I'll call an Uber. Fair.
00:28:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. yes You're paying for it then. Okay. All right.
00:28:03
Niall
Yeah.
00:28:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
I would have thought
00:28:03
Niall
They're only on 300 quid a week. course I'll pay for it.
00:28:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
00:28:06
Niall
Yeah.
00:28:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
And, you know, they're on £300 a week. um You know, we missed the most penalties and that was the reason why we lost. It's expert stuff here on the yeah Daily Manchester United. You've got Tom over there, who's the ever professional. I'll come to you.
00:28:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah An honour in that shootout. Again.
00:28:22
Niall
Sorry. Tom is sinking battleships. Tom is not...
00:28:24
Tom Cairns
Yeah, I've actually been thinking in the Battlestrips and thinking when and where is the next one that's going to be sunk? and the is it Is it going to be sunk at the weekend by Burnley?
00:28:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, yes.
00:28:34
Niall
Absolutely.
00:28:36
Tom Cairns
Yeah.
00:28:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll fast forward to that. and so the The good Anthony is going to come in and and show us how it's done, I think. ah But Tom, i'll I'll come to you about that penalty shootout. I mean, Nal said the longer it went on, the more you felt it wasn't going to go our way. Was it was that a fair fair assessment?
00:28:51
Tom Cairns
I would say so. Yeah, I think from the moment that these Grimsby players were slotting away the penalties they were doing, we were always going to be under pressure. And, you know, it was going to take one miss from us to really decide it. And Bermot was the one to have missed it.
00:29:05
Tom Cairns
I mean, I don't blame anyone for putting Manchester United out of cup competition on the basis of one penalty. I never ever do that because ah game should normally be decided by 90 minutes anyway.
00:29:18
Tom Cairns
Shootout, in my opinion, at least anyway, is a lottery.
00:29:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, I get that. But I just think, you know, Grimsby looked so much more confident. I mean, know, we were heading against their side, which again, as a Premier League club, that shouldn't faze you. It just shouldn't.
00:29:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But, you this wasn't a high stakes shootout. It really wasn't. And with players passing it into the net, it felt like they knew it wasn't high stakes. So, yeah, apart from Maguire, obviously just absolutely smashing it in, um like he always does.
00:29:48
Niall
Mm-hmm.
00:29:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Niall, I mean, I'll come to you because it's been long haul.
Game Summary and Future Concerns
00:29:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah The popcorn's nearly finished for everyone but United. Sum up that game for me. What on earth and how on earth do we go from here? It can't go on like this.
00:30:06
Niall
It can. I mean, to to be very simple, Grimsby scored more penalties than we did. And that's just, that's just the fact of the matter, really. um You say we're shocked.
00:30:17
Niall
Are we really shocked? Like, I mean... its It's not as if we haven't been we haven't been here before, almost losing in horrific fashion against lower league teams, playing horrendously in the matches as well.
00:30:30
Niall
um it's just It's just that hope at the start of the season that gets you. And now that's gone. were And now we're back to where we were since we started this podcast.
00:30:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:30:41
Niall
Maybe we maybe we should just end the podcast and then suddenly... Suddenly our just trajectory just goes back upward again. But yeah, it's a tough one. It's a tough one.
00:30:52
Niall
I don't know. Last point I make, actually. I don't know why. Was it, Tom, the ninth penalty that Sesco ended up taking? Didn't like that. Didn't like that.
00:31:00
Tom Cairns
it it was It was the 10th one that he took.
00:31:01
Niall
Eight or ninth penalty.
00:31:04
Tom Cairns
it was that it
00:31:04
Niall
Was it the 10th?
00:31:05
Tom Cairns
It was the 10th one, yeah, because it was the last outfield player for Manchester United to take a penalty before and Arna took his.
00:31:09
Niall
Yeah, just before Rana. Didn't like that.
00:31:11
Tom Cairns
No, I didn't either.
00:31:11
Niall
That doesn't fill me with confidence. I mean, Dallow going fourth. Madness. De Ligt then going up. He good footballer, but Sesco should be grabbing the ball. like He missed that chance the last kick of the game, right in front of the goal, skied it over the bar.
00:31:28
Niall
Now, he did score his penalty. He took it well. but I don't like the way he was the 10th penalty taker. And to be honest, a lot of that stuff is self-selected. um And I think that that doesn't fill me with confidence going forward that my brand new center forward is is taking the 10th penalty on Ruben Amram has just come on the screen.
00:31:45
Niall
Oh God. There we go.
00:31:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Turn it off. Turn it off, Niall. Turn off.
00:31:49
Niall
Okay.
00:31:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Haven't we suffered enough? No, we haven't. We'll do all again against Burnley. um Tom, your thoughts on a dismal showing tonight, a Grimsby showing, if you will.
00:32:01
Tom Cairns
With a grumpy vibe as well. And i mean, it's the second round of the League Cup, so I can't feel like overly dejected by it because it's not our competition anyway.
00:32:15
Tom Cairns
And to fill you in on second rounds, I think that's the third second round tie in a row in the competition where we've gone out. Because we also went out to York City it over two legs, believe it not.
00:32:31
Tom Cairns
in It saves
00:32:34
Niall
I love this, Tom. I love this.
00:32:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's I don't know what to say. and fact, I do know what to say. It's just what what we're used to at the moment. It's great.
00:32:44
Niall
Mm-hmm.
00:32:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah you know I think they deserve £300 a week at this at this rate. It'll be great. See how they perform then.
00:32:49
Tom Cairns
ah they saves them having to sack so many staff members that don't have anything to do with what's going on on the pitch.
00:32:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, all those redundancies and for what? And for what? I don't know. but Anyway, look, and we've we've done enough talking. We've done enough ah joking around. Whether it's battleships we're talking about, whether it's Sabutio or Amirim just cowering in that substitute bench, hoping, rocking back and forth that the penalty shootout will be over soon.
00:33:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, it lasted a long time, but in the end, we're out. And you'll never sing that, I guess? have to get it in there somewhere. If you've enjoyed today's episode, I'm sure you'll join us for more along this season.
00:33:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:33:43
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00:34:40
Niall
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00:34:40
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00:34:53
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