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Episode 182 - When Life gives you Lammens...
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Niall is joined by Toluwa to discuss transfers in and out and the BOMB Squad.
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Introduction and Transfer Overview
00:00:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of the Daily Manchester United podcast. I'm your host for this evening, Niall Hannigan and yeah, never a dull moment with this club, I'm telling you.
00:00:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Talua, welcome to the show, how are you?
00:00:28
Toluwa
I'm good. Thanks for having me as always.
00:00:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, absolute bonkers deadline day. ah So much going on across all the clubs. I was just constantly refreshing X seeing what all the different reporters are coming out with but...
00:00:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Plenty, plenty discussed on the United front. I mean, what was your overall reaction to to everything that went down over the last couple of days?
00:00:51
Toluwa
Yeah, um from a United standpoint, I'm happy that we went with Lemons over Martinez. I think that was...
00:00:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, yeah.
00:00:57
Toluwa
kind of the right move for the club at this moment. I know that Martinez has abundance of experience. He's won a World Cup, so he knows what it takes to win. I just feel like his personality kind of would have clashed with what Ruben Amarim wants to do moving forward.
00:01:13
Toluwa
So think signing this young and inexperienced keeper, as everybody's saying, kind of reminds me of the David De Gea signing. all those years back when Sir Alex trusted him to play. um So I'm really hoping that this propels us.
00:01:25
Toluwa
It takes us a step forward. And honestly, anything is better than what we have right now in that.
00:01:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:01:30
Toluwa
So I'll take it. Yeah.
00:01:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
i think that's that's where my head's at as well is because it it could have been anyone coming in and and it would have been an improvement um it's quite a ah modest fee as well, which which is good. So we haven't, you know, paid over the odds for someone that, that isn't that experienced.
00:01:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I know Kieran went through a couple of his stats yesterday in the, in the episode and spoke about how he's made the most saves in Europe, et cetera. And um kind of really like a top across under 23 and our 23 year olds and below, he's been really, really successful in that. But yeah,
00:02:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know it's it's an unproven unproven talent in ah in a league that is um you know not up to the same levels as the Premier League. So it will be interesting to see how he gets on.
United's Transfer Strategy and Lemons
00:02:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Donnarumma going to Man City, I mean, for a while it was looking like he might have come here. Would you have taken him over Le Mans that we have coming in? um i Was he in kind of the same category as the Emi Martinez or what's your what's your thoughts on that?
00:02:33
Toluwa
Yeah, I feel like Donnarumma is a bit different than Martinez just because his quality is there. Like he just won the Champions League.
00:02:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:41
Toluwa
He was instrumental in getting them to the final alongside Dembele and Hakimi and all the stars they have. But his wages are so huge. And I feel like we're trying now to finally move away from this ridiculous wage structure and then to bring him in but still have characters like Onana and
00:02:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:02:59
Toluwa
I don't know. was just it seems like the club made the right choice, just not only financially, but culturally. I know that Donnarumma coming in, it would have been, all right, you have to hit the ground running if you make a mistake. Oh, here we are again, back in the same situation with Onana.
00:03:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:03:12
Toluwa
And Donnarumma is a world class keeper. Don't get me wrong, but he is also prone to errors. I know a lot of keepers are prone to error, but you want a keeper that can at least you can trust for the most part.
00:03:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:03:22
Toluwa
I remember the start of last season, Donnarumma was really shaky. I don't know what he did to turn it around for the second half, but kudos to him, he did. I just feel like it'd be a big gamble for United right now to be paying for another huge star with huge wages.
00:03:36
Toluwa
And then they come to United and they don't live up to expectations. We're kind of just in the same cycle again. But quality wise, I would have taken him.
00:03:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah
00:03:45
Toluwa
I still think ah the signing we made ultimately is the right one just in terms of moving the club forward.
00:03:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's interesting what you said around the the wage structure because you know you've seen some some discourse online from United fans saying, you know and maybe take Beliba, for example, we should have just paid paid over the odds and just pay and and we need the midfielder, so let's just do it.
00:04:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
But that's exactly what we were criticised for over the past maybe five, six, seven years is just paying way in below, way in above what what the players' value is.
00:04:11
Toluwa
Okay.
00:04:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
The Casamiros and Verans of the world when Real Madrid, there's a reason why they're happy to let them go. um so yeah, it is... it is ah a positive step and in that regard where it is a more kind of sustainable approach when it comes to transfers. um And I like your your comparison to De Gea as well, because, you know, relatively unknown.
00:04:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
um You could tell that he had really good quality in his first couple of games, but was really shaky.
00:04:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
and And Ferguson, to be fair, stuck with him. And um it really did pay dividends over the... over his career at United, I think Onana and Bayindir have ran out of chances when it comes to that. And the the spotlight really is going to be on Le Mans.
00:04:42
Toluwa
yeah
00:04:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's going to be ah an absolute pressure cooker of an environment. But hopefully, hopefully it goes well. And like you said, it can't get any worse.
Leadership Needs in United's Defense
00:05:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
But it was interesting. and I saw a piece around him in general about his kind of his career and his his journey so far. And it seems that he's...
00:05:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's got quite a level-headed kind personality around him and quite like an introvert as well. um i think Barcelona wanted to sign him a few years ago ah to kind of play within the Barcelona Bs for a ah future replacement for Ter Stegen.
00:05:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And he decided to kind of stay at his club and and fight for his position and and eventually go into the first team. um And yeah, he just kind of, he felt that when he was a kid, he was quite an extroverted person. But then when he went to Club Bruges, think the academy there, he decided just to worry about himself and just kind of keep keep himself to himself. So a bit of a different um approach, i think, to Onana.
00:05:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm interested to see how that will... how that will gel with the back four that we have, because we don't have a load of leaders in the squad.
00:06:01
Toluwa
Yeah.
00:06:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
And sometimes you do need a kind of a loud kind of personality from the goalkeeper. And, you know, like you said, Emi Martinez is the exact opposite. So it's, yeah, I don't know.
00:06:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just really hope he hits the ground running.
00:06:15
Toluwa
Yeah, I agree. um I feel like, you know, to the point that you made about him, kind of as he progressed in his career, becoming a little bit more within himself, it really does remind me of De Gea, just because, like you said, when De Gea came, we we could all see the quality.
00:06:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:06:30
Toluwa
But yeah, he let in a few errors, like he he let in some goals that he shouldn't have. And I was honestly kind of surprised that Sir Alex st still decided to stick with him. just because the pressure was on. We're still titled challengers at this point.
00:06:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:43
Toluwa
So to kind of just throw him into the deep end like that was was crazy. And i feel like this new keeper that we have, He definitely has the traits of a top shot stopper.
00:06:55
Toluwa
I just wonder, like you said, will he be commanding enough? Like, we don't have leaders. I feel like the only real leader we have is currently injured, and that's Lesandro.
00:07:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:03
Toluwa
I feel like he's the one that will be able to spur players on and tell his players we need to play better. Everybody else is kind of just listening to Bruno, and sometimes, you know, Bruno will lose his head.
00:07:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:12
Toluwa
So I kind of, I would I want to see if he can be that leader in the back line to kind of organize the back, especially on um corners and set pieces.
00:07:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, yeah.
00:07:23
Toluwa
Because we're so awfully bad at organization. i don't know if it's at this point, if it's the set piece coach or if it's just us in the moment, the players seem to just forget how to defend on any set piece. The goal we conceded against Burnley was from a throw in a long throw in.
00:07:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep. Mm-hmm.
00:07:39
Toluwa
The second goal, which is like ah really unacceptable at this point for all the work that these guys do pregame to try and sort out their back line. So I think he doesn't necessarily need to make endless saves and keep clean sheets right away. I feel like if for him to settle in, he needs to just get comfortable being in this high pressure environment with United.
00:08:00
Toluwa
I'm not looking too much for the clean sheets because... Unless, unless he is directly at fault, that's different.
00:08:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:08
Toluwa
You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to see errors at the same time, but it's going to be huge. Who knows if he's going to start his first game against Man City. That's a huge game to start in.
00:08:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:20
Toluwa
You know what I mean?
00:08:21
Toluwa
You're coming from Belgium.
00:08:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
That is a bottom is a fire. Yeah.
00:08:23
Toluwa
Yeah, you're coming from Belgium and the first game you play at United is the Derby.
00:08:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:28
Toluwa
Like that's going to be tough. So if Ruben Emmerim has the trust in him and he starts him, I would love to just see him be commanding, be, you know, kind of secure within himself.
00:08:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:36
Toluwa
That'll help us feel confident moving forward, I think.
00:08:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, I hope he does start, to be honest, against against City. That would be ah and an absolutely unforgettable debut, whether it goes well or it goes badly for him. So, yeah, I hope it goes well, but let's see.
00:08:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
So that's kind of a on on a positive note. It was an area that we needed to to
Sancho and Anthony's Surprising Moves
00:08:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
bring someone in. It was glaringly obvious ah over the last couple of weeks.
00:09:00
Toluwa
Yeah.
00:09:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
couple of weeks The bomb squad, Tolua. we've We've got rid of nearly all of them. They've nearly all found a new home. I'll start with Jadon Sancho because, honestly, i you could have given me 30 guesses of where he was going. I would never have said Aston Villa.
00:09:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, this is so random. It's like they've just... Swapped Rashford and Sancho and just said, yeah, he'll do. We'll also take Lindelof as well. It's just such a ah strange combination. But I mean, what do you what do you make of that move for for Sancho, I suppose, and and for us?
00:09:39
Toluwa
I feel like Sancho is kind of just digging his own grave. ah For us, it's fine because I think I read a report that said Bidla is paying 80% of his wages, which go ahead and take that.
00:09:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Crazy.
00:09:50
Toluwa
Yeah, that's crazy because the dude is on well over $250,000 a week.
00:09:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Crazy.
00:09:53
Toluwa
So please, by by all means, pay that.
00:09:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:09:56
Toluwa
I just feel like he's digging his own grave. um He somehow managed to stay in the Premier League, which I just don't think he's the, he's not at the quality to play in the league.
00:10:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:10:06
Toluwa
And Chelsea first, there's a reason why Chelsea did not want to pay him those wages.
00:10:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:10:11
Toluwa
And it's kind of baffles me that he had offers from all of these different historic clubs in Europe. Maybe not right now, at the top clubs, he had to offer from Roma. I'm sure he had offers from several Turkish teams, like teams that have prestige.
00:10:24
Toluwa
And he ended up going straight to Aston Villa, who don't get me wrong, Aston Villa, prior to this season have been kind of amazing for what they are.
00:10:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:32
Toluwa
You know what I mean? um Obviously this season they've kind of hit a bad little stretch of form. I think him and Harvey Elliott will definitely improve their attack though, for sure. They definitely are missing that Leon Bailey, Musa Diaby from a couple of years ago, that winger, and now they just sold Jacob Ramsey.
00:10:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:48
Toluwa
so For me, just from a neutral standpoint on Sancho, I wish him well. I hope he does well so that we can finally sell him. I don't know why we can't sell the dude.
00:10:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah. yeah
00:10:58
Toluwa
It's like impossible to sell him. I don't know why. um But from a United point of view, yeah i mean, yeah, it's the wages.
00:11:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's the wages. He won't he won't leave. He's secured his spot because of the wages. yeah.
00:11:09
Toluwa
And it's sad because we've lowered our price for him dramatically. We signed him for, what, 75 million, 80 million pounds, and we're offering him out to class for 20 million.
00:11:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh Yeah.
00:11:18
Toluwa
Like, that's that's a huge loss, man.
00:11:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
yes
00:11:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:11:22
Toluwa
And we still can't sell him? Like, so from a United point of view, I'm just happy that he's not within the squad. He's kind of a toxic player. I know going to Chelsea, he was with his boys and all of that, but he didn't have a great impact.
00:11:35
Toluwa
And I think that's what we want to see is just him returning to his best as a neutral.
00:11:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
no
00:11:39
Toluwa
I think I'm done with Sancho, though. I used to be the hugest Sancho supporter, and can't stand to look at the guy anymore.
00:11:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think we're all in the same boat. I think the the the sooner he kind of moves on to pass, he's new permanently would be a good move for both parties. I think whether he's going to get the same wage is a different story.
00:11:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
But ah yeah, I mean, let's see how it goes.
00:11:59
Toluwa
Thank you.
00:12:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Aston Villa is shaping up to be quite interesting. And I think they're they're lacking a lot of pace with Elliott and Sancho there. Probably pace that you really need for the Premier League. But Let's see how they get on. They haven't had the greatest start, so maybe maybe that can boost their efforts a bit, I suppose.
00:12:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Moving over to Spain. Anthony's gone back home again. or and Never fall in love with a lone player, but the Bettis fans are delighted to have him back, I think, coming back to ah a roaring um roaring atmosphere.
00:12:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm actually happy for him. you know but he's just I think it's in that Sancho situation where if he went on loan again, I'd be like, ah just please leave. But now that he's left, I'm like, you know what? I think it's, I'm just happy that he's out of that as well.
00:12:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
And the pressure can be totally lifted off him.
00:12:46
Toluwa
Yeah.
00:12:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
But um yeah, I just don't think he was ever up to the standard really.
00:12:53
Toluwa
It's a shame, too, because when we signed him and he scored that first goal against Arsenal, um'm I'm literally thinking to myself, like, yes, finally, we found the one and then
00:12:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's Arsenal. Yeah, yeah.
00:13:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
I hit, I hit. Yeah.
00:13:05
Toluwa
It just went downhill from there. I mean, like I share the same opinion as you. I'm actually really happy for him. I don't think he deserved to be labeled amongst the bomb squad um just because feel like he really tried hard to be at United and prove himself at United.
00:13:23
Toluwa
But like you said, the quality just wasn't there. He just isn't really built for the speed of this game and going to Spain is perfect for him.
00:13:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:13:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:13:31
Toluwa
I feel like he can really stretch his legs.
00:13:32
Toluwa
He can kind of stretch the defense. And his left foot, I mean, they they lead they love to let people shoot on their strong foot in Spain. La Minha Mall is doing it with ease.
00:13:43
Toluwa
Messi was doing it with ease. Ronaldo could effortlessly cut it on his right and shoot from long distance. So La Liga seems to be the perfect place for somebody who's one footed. um The Premier League really isn't. They'll show you to that side and then they'll bully you off the ball.
00:13:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:56
Toluwa
So I think it's a great move for him. The fee, once again, I'm just kind of disappointed. We had to sell for such a cut price fee ah because I feel like his actual value in terms of his quality is much higher than, I think it was like, what, 21 million pounds, something like that, which is so, like, I understand we paid, what was it, 90 million for him, which was absurd.
00:14:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:14:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:14:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, no, but, like, the the clubs are just... They're they're taking the mick out of us. Like, honestly, it's it's a joke.
00:14:18
Toluwa
But I mean, come on.
00:14:22
Toluwa
They're fleecing us. Yeah.
00:14:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, it is a joke. Because you look at the... Like, the market at the moment is just ridiculous.
00:14:31
Toluwa
Yeah.
00:14:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ridiculously inflated. But because United is so public about how badly they want to get rid of these players, it's just like... like I will just submit a horrendous offer and you kind of have to accept it.
00:14:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, it's just like, it's the position we're in. It's the club we're at. We have to buy high. We sell low. It's like the complete opposite of what you should be doing.
00:14:49
Toluwa
ah know.
00:14:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
But um I don't know if that will ever change just because of the constant, communication and media surrounding the club where if you know you want to get rid of a player they will wait and there's a reason why it all happened on the last couple of days of the window where you know you just got super desperate
00:15:11
Toluwa
Yeah. So your point, I mean, I think that's kind of why I'm a little OK with us not signing Balaba right now, just because i don't I don't genuinely think he's worth 100 mil.
00:15:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
mm-hmm yeah
00:15:22
Toluwa
And you said it earlier in the in the episode, it's like we've been known for making those extravagant signings for ridiculous fees and then it doesn't work out.
00:15:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:15:32
Toluwa
We let Paul Pogba go for free after we signed him for 80 mil.
00:15:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:36
Toluwa
You know what I mean? like
00:15:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:38
Toluwa
And signing Paul Pogba was such a huge moment for the club. Everybody thought, you know what, we finally have our six that can dictate tempo, that can, no, it just it just didn't work.
00:15:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Pog back. Yeah.
00:15:47
Toluwa
So I'm kind of glad that we shied away from that. I kind of want the club to go back to a model like Liverpool.
00:15:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:15:54
Toluwa
Well, obviously Liverpool have shattered the English record twice before this year, where Liverpool would only sign
00:15:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Before this year. Yeah.
00:16:01
Toluwa
A few players for more than over $50 million, $60 million. I think Van Dijk and Mane and those players were like the most expensive. And then Darwin was kind of an anomaly. But for the most part, Liverpool are very economical and smart.
00:16:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:13
Toluwa
Same with Arsenal. Even with Man City, they signed Ryan Cherky for $30 million.
00:16:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:18
Toluwa
But we always have to sign the most expensive player. And then when it doesn't work out, we're all wondering, why didn't it work out?
00:16:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, all eggs in one basket and hope for the best.
00:16:26
Toluwa
So...
00:16:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
But anyway, we'll take a quick break here and we'll be back with a few more outgoings over the last couple of days.
00:17:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
So we have a couple of more kind of low-key loans. and Ciarán mentioned Harry Amass going out and loaned the Sheffield Wednesday. um He also said I'd be quite disappointed with that. But we have bolstered our left-back and left-wing-back options over the past past few months with Dargu and Diego Leon. So not too bad. Toby Collier as well has gone out to West Brom, which I think is ah is a positive move.
00:18:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Rasmus Hoyland.
00:18:12
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It's been a horrible, horrible time for him at United. you know He's the one that wanted to stay and felt that he was better than Sesco and felt that he wanted to prove himself. And the club, to be honest, and the managers were were having none of it. and They wanted him to
Hoyland's Loan to Napoli and Striker Depth Concerns
00:18:28
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get out. and They probably were happy to take a a permanent deal as well. But you know him going out on loan joining Scott McTominay and Kevin De Bruyne in Napoli, I feel like he's going to score goals. I don't know. I feel like he's going to score.
00:18:42
Toluwa
I think he's going to be brilliant, especially since Lukaku is out for three to four months. ah He's going to start. And I've been watching Napoli since this at the start of the season. Lorenzo Luca is their current striker.
00:18:54
Toluwa
They signed him from, I think, Udinese for a good fee. Hasn't looked a part at all. And McTominay, De Bruyne, they look fit. They look sharp. They need somebody like Hoyland who's going to run into space. And he's going to he's going to be electric, I think.
00:19:07
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Yeah.
00:19:08
Toluwa
um Especially, you know, with like you said, he wanted to stay. So he's probably going to use this anger and just frustration and just take it out on this area.
00:19:13
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Oh, yeah.
00:19:15
Toluwa
A league that he's already familiar with. A league that he played well in before we signed him. So I think he's going to do well. I wish that we would have kept him and had him in a constant rotation with ah Benjamin Sheshko.
00:19:27
Toluwa
Because i don't I don't truly see Zerkse being ah a backup striker. I feel like he's kind of a utility attacker where he can play anywhere, but his best his best traits aren't suited to being a finisher.
00:19:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:19:40
Toluwa
He's more like a creator.
00:19:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:19:42
Toluwa
So we've kind of kind of left ourselves exposed up top. If Sheshko gets hurt, we're going to have to constantly see Mason Mount, Cunha, and Mbumo rotate.
00:19:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Exactly. Yeah.
00:19:51
Toluwa
I don't know if that's what Emram really wanted, you know?
00:19:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, i don't I don't really understand it. When you look at, and obviously it's night and day from those teams, but the United teams that were winning leagues had four strikers or three strikers that, not that they're constantly rotating, but they'll they'll come in and play 18, 20 games eighteen twenty games a season What's the harm in having him as as a backup striker and and both of them pushing each other?
00:20:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
um It's not as if Sesko is this proven goal scorer, like a Harry Kane figure that he's going to play every game and he's guaranteed to start.
00:20:21
Toluwa
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
They're very similar profiles. They're similar ages, similar big fees, you know, unproven in the Premier League. I mean, like, I don't really get it. Like, let them battle it out. Let them drive each other on.
00:20:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I agree with your Xerxi point. He's more of a... um a facilitator and he's more of a cover for those number 10 positions he he probably will play it in the 9 and drop in and provide a bit more of a different dynamic with maybe Cunhan and Buemo running in behind him which could work but not not the not the profile that Amarim normally plays with as the number 9 And he's super young as well. Like, he's still only 22.
00:21:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, it's it's crazy, honestly. I mean, yeah, the scrutiny was absolutely massive on him. um and And he didn't perform. And, you know, there was a lot of things that that he needed to improve on. but But keep him at the club and let them battle it out and let them drive each other on.
00:21:02
Toluwa
Yeah.
00:21:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just, I don't i don't really see the the urgency of trying to get him out on loan, what was what was strange to me.
00:21:21
Toluwa
yeah yeah
00:21:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
um and And once again, i mean, similar to the... to the Sancho one I mean I probably hope Hoyland does it bit better than Sancho to be honest think I have a bit more of a soft spot for Hoyland than Sancho to be honest but I hope it does go well which does lead me on to the next person on the list and probably the final person we'll speak about on the episode and I have to say I just hope it doesn't go well for him but I mean Garnacho talk to me I mean strange strange strange footballer yeah
00:21:54
Toluwa
Strange person, strange human,
Garnacho's Move to Chelsea and Transfer Timing Debate
00:21:57
Toluwa
to be honest. um I think we you know can agree that when he was at the club and he was in form, it just felt right. Like he was going to be the next left winger for United, kind that consistent left winger that could take us.
00:21:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:22:11
Toluwa
But I don't know, man, the attitude on these guys just stinks. And Garnacho is another one that just cares too much about, I feel like, his ah his career.
00:22:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:22:21
Toluwa
more so than actually seeing the team win. um He made some valid points though. The Europa League final, I feel like he should have started that game. And for the form that he was in leading up into that game, it seemed like he was going to be that starter.
00:22:35
Toluwa
But his attitude, that's the number one thing with Amarim, I can just tell. His attitude.
00:22:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:39
Toluwa
That's why certain players play over others and the fan base gets confused. And it's like you can tell that he really favors someone like Mason Mount because he'll give everything. And not just that, but he's technically gifted.
00:22:51
Toluwa
And then he'll track back on top of that. Garnacho would not do that. And I i agree. I hope he doesn't even see the pitch for Chelsea because Chelsea just signed by no Gittens.
00:22:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:23:01
Toluwa
And he doesn't even play more than 20 minutes a game.
00:23:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I don't get the move, honestly.
00:23:05
Toluwa
Yeah.
00:23:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
like He's not going to play.
00:23:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
like I really, really don't get it. um If he wanted it out that badly, it's just so strange. I mean, I'm really struggling to understand what the motivation is to leave because...
00:23:06
Toluwa
Yeah.
00:23:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not as if he he you know he was hard done by or he wasn't getting minutes. It was all self-inflicted. you know It wasn't coming from the manager or anything.
00:23:24
Toluwa
Yeah.
00:23:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was all coming from him. ah he has an opportunity where yeah United, I mean, you could say could go further down, but in a way, we can only kind of go up. like It can't get much worse. I mean, we could get relegated, but let's not go there yet. It's only a couple of games in, but...
00:23:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know He has an opportunity to be one of those academy players to drive the club on, but just that mindset just doesn't seem to be there at all. um like Chelsea is a graveyard for wingers. like i just don't just like what I don't understand the move at all.
00:23:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Chelsea are just kind of buying... commodities and then just looking to sell them to see if they they end up doing well later on the line. But in order for his price to raise or his value to to rise, sorry, he needs to play and he needs to produce.
00:24:11
Toluwa
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he hasn't been producing at all. And and he had so many opportunities, and especially under Ten Hag and then under Amram as well for ah for a stint. He was playing quite a lot. And you mentioned about the attitude
00:24:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
I can forgive someone for having a bad attitude if they're giving me 30 goals and they're performing incredibly. But if you're performing severely under power and not tracking back and complaining, then what's the point?
00:24:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like you're you're not really adding anything at all.
00:24:40
Toluwa
yeah
00:24:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I am happy to go over the line. To be honest, I don't really care that it was only, i'm looking at 46 million euros. melineerro
00:24:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Honestly, what's another if it was another fifteen twenty yeah I would still feel the exact same. like I don't really care how much it is. I think, yeah in a way, we just wanted to get rid of him. And, yeah, I just really, really am struggling to understand the move, to be honest, on his part.
00:25:06
Toluwa
Yeah, yeah. I think Chelsea, like you said, is just, they're just looking to buy and sell. They're not really looking to form a team. They just want the next big thing to come in.
00:25:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:25:16
Toluwa
If it works out, great. If it doesn't, we can sell you. And I think I saw a good glimpse of their business strategy when ah Nicholas Jackson was going to Bayern. And as soon as the lab gets injured, they're like, oh sorry, never mind.
00:25:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:28
Toluwa
And I'm thinking to myself, you just forced him out. But now because you've lost your option.
00:25:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:33
Toluwa
So that kind of tells me the state of that club. And for Garnacho to go to that club, that tells me what his mindset is all about.
00:25:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe it's a perfect combination, but they're just ah both awful in terms of those things.
00:25:44
Toluwa
Just both awful.
00:25:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
They're just made for each other. But yeah, I mean, i to be honest, you know I don't want him to do that well, but I actually can't see him doing well at all either.
00:25:54
Toluwa
yeah
00:25:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
like i just I just don't see it. um the players that they have, this you know even that young Brazilian guy that they signed, Estevão, he's way better, basically.
00:26:05
Toluwa
he's better yeah he's a better yeah
00:26:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's way better, um and he's not even playing. So sir it's a strange one, but but let's see anyway. So finally, we're a couple of games into the season.
00:26:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Actually, before before we wrap it up, your opinion on... the transfer window closing in the middle of the season, if if everything was, you know, you were able to sort it where all the leagues kind of started at the same time, et cetera, would you prefer all the transfers to be done before the league starts? Or do you kind of like this two, three week window where teams can say, oh, we are short in this area. We need to go out and find someone.
00:26:43
Toluwa
Yeah, I think it gives teams kind of like a a second chance um if the original recruitment or if, let's say, for example, somebody gets injured, um it gives them a chance you know to kind of three games into the season.
00:26:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:26:56
Toluwa
All right, let's reassess and we can go again. I think from a United standpoint, what difference does it make if we're not going to make signings? um You know, we made signings early in the window, which I commend.
00:27:07
Toluwa
We never really used to do that under the previous regime.
00:27:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
know
00:27:12
Toluwa
But then it got to a point where we're seeing reports that United have this money and that they can do this and that. Even if we're not signing a midfielder like Baleba, why couldn't we go for somebody cheaper?
00:27:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly.
00:27:23
Toluwa
And that's you know that's where I think about, well, if the deadline had been earlier, would United have been more proactive?
00:27:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:27:30
Toluwa
instead of waiting until this time to say, by the way, they could have signed La Mens way earlier in the transfer window. This was something that had been brewing for the entire window.
00:27:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:42
Toluwa
So to your point, I don't know, it's it's iffy for me. I kind of want to say, from from From what I saw from United, it would be better if the window ended before the season started.
00:27:53
Toluwa
It probably would have forced United to be a little more proactive. But seeing the injuries that teams have, like Saliba on Arsenal or DeLapp on Chelsea, like it forced them to call people back and it forced them to get a little more active.
00:28:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:28:06
Toluwa
So 50-50, I'm not sure yet.
00:28:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it does add a bit of excitement. I mean, you know, if the goalkeeper situation, if United were on the fence, whether they should invest in a goalkeeper, those first two, three games of the season really helped push that Le Mans deal over the line.
00:28:22
Toluwa
Yeah.
Podcast Wrap-Up: Final Thoughts on Transfer Window
00:28:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
So in that regard, I'm absolutely delighted that it was at the end of the month.
00:28:23
Toluwa
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
rather than at the start of the season because we would have been stuck with them for the for the whole year. But um yeah, the only thing that's is's kind of messing up is my fantasy football team because I think I had Mark Gooey as my Sunderland striker.
00:28:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now he's going back to Chelsea and yeah's yeah, he's definitely not going to play it now.
00:28:42
Toluwa
yeah
00:28:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
So yeah,
00:28:45
Toluwa
yeah
00:28:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
going to have get rid of him but anyway that's fine so yeah Talua thank you very much for joining me um lots of movement in the in the transfer window for United what we kind of expected but it all kind of was crammed in at the end so was interesting to go through see how we get on and yeah we're slowly getting over that Grimsby result and just putting it into the background and and hoping it slowly goes away but ah yeah anyway thanks very much for joining me and we'll see you in the next one
00:29:07
Toluwa
Yeah.
00:29:12
Toluwa
As always.