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Episode 8: Stock Falling - Arsenal, Man City, Real Madrid
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- Is Arsenal's Title challenge over? Liverpool draw, Newcastle/Inter loss
- City: 3 losses in a row; Will they bounce back?
- Liverpool: Is the Title theirs to lose?
- Madrid: El Classico loss and CL loss; Balon Dor fall out; Can Mbappe and Vini co-exist
- Ten Hag sacked: Agree with timing? What do we expect with Amorim coming in
- Game of The Week: Chelsea vs. Arsenal
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Transcript
00:00:10
Chino Onwuka
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Love of the Game podcast. It's your boy Chino and I'm here with my brothers, my partners. Mecca, how are you doing?
00:00:20
Emeka
Hey, why going out to the people, man? We know we missed y'all last week. We missed y'all. We be back with another new hot episode.
00:00:27
Chino Onwuka
Yeah, you know, sometimes life gets in the way.
00:00:29
Chuku
so
00:00:29
Chino Onwuka
We tried our best. We tried our best, but, you know, life be life and sometimes. Ch so it's up to the peep
00:00:36
Chuku
Hey, what's up, guys? Well, I've been better, but, you know, we're here to give the people what they want.
00:00:40
Chino Onwuka
yeah
00:00:41
Chuku
You know, it's it sucks that we weren't able to, you know, produce an episode last week, but, you know, life happens.
00:00:42
Emeka
Give them what they need hey
00:00:48
Chuku
But we're here. We're back. And hopefully, you know, we can try we can try and stay consistent, you know. But we're here, people. We're here. Let's have a good episode.
00:00:57
Chino Onwuka
yeah i'm sure i' sure in a couple of seconds you're gonna be talking about one of the things that is is contributing to that life could be better statement
00:01:08
Chuku
definitely. most definitely but let's go let's go
00:01:09
Emeka
need. Hey.
00:01:09
Chino Onwuka
you have you have a what a lot to talk about today we're gonna try and keep it the time but yeah this umm sure a lot of people are looking looking towards and just want to start before we get into it like key, that intro keeps on every time.
00:01:25
Chino Onwuka
I know I might be feeling every time we start off with it.
00:01:28
Chuku
Most definitely. But let's go. Let's go.
00:01:29
Emeka
I'm sorry.
00:01:30
Chino Onwuka
Well,
00:01:30
Emeka
its all i intro man can like you know do and do tin
00:01:34
Chino Onwuka
hey, if there' are any if there are any artists out there, producers who, you know, and were're trying to get their stuff out there, who got something to contribute, let us know.
00:01:35
Emeka
it's but
00:01:44
Chino Onwuka
Reach out.
00:01:44
Emeka
It's a solid intro, man. I can't lie. It's a vibe. Hey, reach out, man. The boys, free promo, man. We got you.
00:01:49
Chino Onwuka
For sure. We're going to start with Arsenal. Last episode, speed we we talked about what is going wrong with Arsenal.
00:01:53
Emeka
group therapy.
00:01:59
Chino Onwuka
We were coming up with a couple of poor results. Not even just poor results, poor showings and poor performances. And it hasn't gotten a lot better since then. Has it gotten worse since then?
00:02:11
Chino Onwuka
All of it. So just to start, and just a bit of a recap, since the last episode, we've had a 2-2 draw with Liverpool.
00:02:21
Emeka
Not bad.
00:02:22
Emeka
A dominant showing in the karly cup
00:02:23
Chino Onwuka
We have a dominant performance against Preston, Ethan.
00:02:28
Chuku
Hmm.
00:02:32
Emeka
yeah over their performance
00:02:33
Chino Onwuka
We can talk about Ethan. I don't mind talking about that. And then after that, Ethan wasn't starting in the last two games, so it's not surprising.
00:02:39
Chuku
or my
00:02:42
Chino Onwuka
It was a loss in Newcastle, 1-0, and then just earlier today, a 1-0 loss to enter away at the talk about the coach.
00:02:47
Chuku
Oh,
00:02:48
Emeka
in the Carly Cup. Dominant performance.
00:02:59
Chino Onwuka
We're going to talk about the team. We're going to talk about title chances, trophies, accomplishments. So we're just going to come straight to you because I know you have a lot to say.
00:03:08
Chuku
titled chances o title chances what let me cook let me cook man.
00:03:12
Chino Onwuka
So when we talk about larry rosco but let cook, cook. All right. It's your time to shut
00:03:21
Chuku
First of all, first of all, we talking about title chances?
00:03:29
Chuku
Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen okay go ahead yeah go yeah airlan hey and i'm looking for totally different reasons and i'm out for completely different reasons because i can promise you arsma is not winning Jack.
00:03:30
Chino Onwuka
show you. Hold up. you know Before both of you start laughing, I want to put it out there that after the match league game, I said, I think those are our title chances gone.
00:03:40
Chino Onwuka
And you both laughed at me so
00:03:42
Emeka
Oh.
00:03:43
Chino Onwuka
last night
00:03:43
Emeka
I'm still laughing because it's 10 games in and we're doing this post-mortem right now, but whatever. I'm going to let you cook. Exactly. Woo!
00:03:55
Chuku
And I don't know if anyone's telling me otherwise. I need to see what you're smoking. I need to see who you're like, what you're intakingaking because if we're watching the same thing, yeah, my eyes are telling me that literally Arteta is not, I don't think Arteta is the guy that's going to take us to the promised land.
00:04:08
Chino Onwuka
both laughed at me so laugh now
00:04:17
Chuku
I hate to say this. I really hate to say this because he's come so close in back-to-back seasons. But I really – yep, go ahead.
00:04:25
Chino Onwuka
and Just to be clear, continue, what's your, just so everyone knows what you're talking about, what is your definition of the promised land?
00:04:32
Chuku
The promised land is a major trophy that is either the league or the Champions League. Simple as. Some guys are just not the guy. Like some guys are the guys that know get the team up to a certain they get to an a certain position where they have belief, and then someone else steps in and takes that team over the hill.
00:04:53
Chuku
Perfect example of this, even though I don't think it might be a fair example, but because if this particular person got given the chance, maybe he could have taken the team over the line, but we never got to see that.
00:05:05
Chuku
And that is with the Mark Jackson, Steve Kerr situation.
00:05:08
Emeka
so
00:05:08
Chino Onwuka
you
00:05:09
Chuku
Mark, yeah, i mean listen, listen. If those that follow the sports, mark Mark Jackson, right, had the Splash Brothers. They didn't make it.
00:05:20
Chuku
They didn't win a ring. some may some Some might argue if Mark Jackson had stayed on, he could have maybe taken them to the note to the to the ring. We don't know.
00:05:28
Emeka
Oh.
00:05:28
Chino Onwuka
you
00:05:29
Chuku
But all we know is they let go of Mark Jackson. They brought in Steve Kerr. History was made. The Splash Brothers won the championships. Look, Arteta is not a bad manager, okay?
00:05:41
Chuku
My problem with Arteta, though, is what has he done to our club of late where he we lose one man.
00:05:48
Chino Onwuka
you
00:05:48
Emeka
Thank you.
00:05:51
Chuku
One man. Obviously, okay obviously we lost Saka as well.
00:05:54
Emeka
so big ma
00:05:55
Chuku
We lost Saka as well.
00:05:55
Emeka
big man
00:05:57
Chuku
Sure, sure. He's a big man. He's our captain. Okay, wonderful, yeah? I'll copy two. But you can't tell me because we lose one player. We switch up like everything about how we're playing.
00:06:08
Emeka
It's a big mat. It
00:06:08
Chino Onwuka
you
00:06:09
Chuku
Look at the seasons before. There were times when we were playing some of the best free-flowing football, scoring goals for fun. Even just last season, we were still scoring goals for fun.
00:06:20
Emeka
last season this year.
00:06:21
Chuku
us this season Look at us this season.
00:06:22
Emeka
early twenty twenty four
00:06:25
Chuku
season, Mike. the Can we open our eyes? We are relying on set pieces.
00:06:28
Chino Onwuka
you
00:06:31
Chuku
Boys, we are Tony Pulis FC. I know before we were laughing about this, we were poking fun. You know what I'm trying to say? It was ah there all all good vibes. You know see us against Sp Spurs.
00:06:43
Chuku
Gabriel scoring headers. We're loving it. So what happens when we're not scoring headers?
00:06:48
Chino Onwuka
you
00:06:48
Emeka
Early 2024.
00:06:49
Chuku
What happens when we're not scoring from set pieces? We are playing some of the most diabolical football. And this is what I'm trying to say. like If it's okay, I'm okay. it not It's okay if you have that, you know, as one of the possible, you know groups are know possible you know options when it comes to how you play ball.
00:07:08
Chino Onwuka
you
00:07:09
Emeka
Thank
00:07:10
Chino Onwuka
one of the one of the one of the bows in your quiver
00:07:10
Chuku
That's fine. Exactly. But when this has literally has been the only option and how we've played, I thought if it was one game, okay, cool.
00:07:23
Chuku
Two games. Okay, all right. Three games. Like, we are seeing this multiple times.
00:07:29
Chino Onwuka
One of the bows in your quiver.
00:07:29
Chuku
We are not creating clear, enough clear-cut chances with the with the amount of of of quote-unquote talent that we're supposed to have on the team.
00:07:41
Chuku
And the one thing that's shown me, or one thing that can be spoken about that is clear, is the minute Odegaard is not in the team, we crumble.
00:07:48
Chino Onwuka
you
00:07:50
Chuku
And this is not... Missing Odegaard cannot be the excuse for how we're playing a completely different ah completely different football entirely.
00:08:01
Chuku
That cannot be the excuse.
00:08:02
Emeka
All right, bro, I'm going to let you cook. I'm going to let you cook. I'm just going to raise one point real quick.
00:08:04
Chuku
No, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.
00:08:05
Emeka
Do you have any consideration to Arteta because there are two recent games, and I agree with you, we've been playing Turgeon, but do you care at all that those two games have been away at St.
00:08:08
Chino Onwuka
you
00:08:17
Emeka
James Park and away at San Siro? Not easy
00:08:19
Chuku
No, I do not care. No, I do not care. Well, look, Inter Milan, I understand in Champions League, but Newcastle, no, I do not care. And I promise you, the reason why I say this is because, again, this is not year one.
00:08:28
Chino Onwuka
you
00:08:33
Chuku
This is not year two. This is not year three. Arteta's had how many years to build his team?
00:08:39
Emeka
games. I don't think it's year four your five
00:08:42
Chuku
He's had how many years? I'm not even like trying to exaggerate. like We know what Newcastle are. Look, Newcastle are an okay team.
00:08:48
Chino Onwuka
you
00:08:51
Chuku
They're all right. I'm not going to sit here and say they're a bad team. But I'm sorry, man. If we are the team that we we believe and thought we were or we are, there is no reason we should be playing the kind of football, the kind of like the kind of uninspiring like defensive up bal ball over the top hoping for a set-piece header to to score goals.
00:09:08
Chino Onwuka
you
00:09:17
Chuku
like We cannot be playing that type of football against Newcastle. I'm so sorry. Like, no. Like, not in year five of this Arteta regime.
00:09:28
Chuku
Like, this is just, all this shows to me, like, this goes back to the point of, I remember when rival fans, right, were laughing at us about when we spent, you know, we spent over 700 million, you know, pounds when it comes to transfer targets or ah ah whatever the amount is.
00:09:28
Chino Onwuka
you
00:09:44
Chuku
Please come. I know you know I have the exact numbers.
00:09:45
Chino Onwuka
Where did that That is the, okay, I'm gonna let you cook, right?
00:09:47
Chuku
Good.
00:09:48
Emeka
you
00:09:48
Chuku
No.
00:09:51
Chino Onwuka
But one thing I will not allow, this is one of the things that actually grinds my gears, is when, problem problem with the internet is people just put stuff up and it's not true whatsoever.
00:09:52
Chuku
Okay.
00:09:56
Chuku
Yeah.
00:10:00
Emeka
I swear
00:10:03
Chino Onwuka
If you want to spend 700 million, we're not going to perpetuate that.
00:10:04
Chuku
was not true? What was not true?
00:10:09
Chuku
How much have we spent in transfer window since access has been no, go ahead.
00:10:10
Emeka
swear. I don't know how much we spent under Arteta. I don't know how much we spent.
00:10:14
Chino Onwuka
We're not going to perpetuate that. Artenta
00:10:18
Chuku
but i need you to tell me
00:10:21
Chino Onwuka
has spent about just under $500 million. The key stat is in his time as Arteta's manager, Chelsea spent $1.1 billion.
00:10:31
Chino Onwuka
Then I think it's Man U, Man City, and Tottenham before Arsenal in terms of spending, right? Just to get the facts clear, right?
00:10:42
Chuku
but I need you to tell me. Okay.
00:10:42
Chino Onwuka
Now, if you want to say that a lot of that spend has been mostly defenders or defensive players and that one of the struggles we're facing, that's good.
00:10:43
Chuku
Okay.
00:10:47
Emeka
Thank
00:10:50
Chuku
Well, that was my next point, but go ahead. Yep.
00:10:54
Chino Onwuka
I just don't want us to perpetuate the lies that rival fans or Arteta Awe
00:10:58
Chuku
Okay. Sure.
00:11:03
Chino Onwuka
you know
00:11:03
Chuku
Sure. Sure. Regardless, you cannot tell me Arteta has not been backed while being in the club.
00:11:07
Emeka
you.
00:11:09
Chuku
He has been one of the most backed Arsenal managers post-Wenger.
00:11:14
Chuku
You cannot tell me otherwise, okay?
00:11:14
Emeka
Agree?
00:11:15
Emeka
Agree? It'd be two matches post-Wenger for the record, so I mean...
00:11:16
Chuku
And what he's... Sure, sure. But, I mean, okay, ru still, he has been backed, okay? And with that backing, right, comes responsibility.
00:11:27
Chino Onwuka
use to just gaslight the situation.
00:11:28
Chuku
Where have we spent this money on? Just like what you just said now, we have spent a lot of that money on what? Center backs, center backs that were turning to left backs, and defensive, we most of our money is spent on a defensive midfielder that we're trying to turn and convert to an eight.
00:11:36
Emeka
left back
00:11:46
Emeka
left backs
00:11:47
Chino Onwuka
you
00:11:47
Chuku
Like, why is it that we're not seeing that we need creative options in this team? We've been begging for creative options. Odegaard cannot be the only creative midfielder in our team.
00:12:01
Chino Onwuka
Yeah.
00:12:01
Chuku
It cannot be a situation where if Odegaard goes down, we now have no other way of playing the the free-flowing football that we were accustomed to playing, right, in those years where we were challenging for the league.
00:12:02
Chino Onwuka
yeah
00:12:02
Emeka
Oh.
00:12:15
Chuku
And this is more of a an indictment that we let go of Emil Smith-Rowe, knowing that he, even though the complaint was he was not getting enough minutes, which I understood, and why that was why I was okay with him leaving.
00:12:26
Chino Onwuka
Yeah.
00:12:27
Emeka
Okay.
00:12:30
Chuku
But you let go of Emil Smith-Rowe, you bring in Michael Moreno, who, again, I'm not going to say it's still early, okay, but he's not the creative midfielder that we're looking for in the club.
00:12:46
Emeka
Thank
00:12:47
Chino Onwuka
Thank
00:12:47
Chuku
He's not that guy. So you may tell me the closest thing, again, I repeat, for me, this is my belief, but the closest thing we have to a creative outlet outside of Odegaard in the midfield is a 17-year-old kid named in one year who I love and I think is going to be a very good player in the future.
00:13:10
Chuku
But to see where we're at in terms of our structure, into in terms of our rebuilding and to see where we're at as a club and what we're trying to accomplish and challenge, we cannot be relying on a 17-year-old to come and be the only other creative outlet in our midfield.
00:13:28
Chuku
I want to just tell you, Trossard in the 10 is not it. I promise you guys, he is not it i've seen it. I have seen it too many times, and i' been so I've been this for the longest.
00:13:40
Chuku
Trossard is best used as a super sub. Anything more than a super sub, he has not been that guy.
00:13:46
Chino Onwuka
Thank you.
00:13:46
Emeka
Thank you.
00:13:47
Chuku
He has not been just not. I don't know what it is, but he's just not been it. And God help me. Martinelli, oh my God. I would not.
00:13:58
Chuku
I might just die on this hill. He is cooked. He is done. Listen, he is. Oh, man.
00:14:06
Chino Onwuka
you
00:14:07
Chuku
It's just so sad to see the fall of this kid. Because I honestly remember two years ago. I always say I remember because I was one of these people who was trying to compare and say that even at the time Martinelli had the ceiling, a higher ceiling, a higher ceiling than one Bikai Osaka.
00:14:26
Chino Onwuka
you
00:14:29
Chuku
I was on that train two, three years ago. And for me to tell you and say Martinelli is finished, does not bring me any joy, okay, to harp on on this guy because I have so much faith, so much backing, but my eyes cannot deceive me.
00:14:44
Emeka
so
00:14:45
Chino Onwuka
you
00:14:48
Chuku
He has not improved at all. He has not improved since his one great, one good season. I say good. He had 15 goals in that season.
00:14:59
Chuku
And that's what I'm trying to lean on.
00:14:59
Emeka
Pretty good season. World
00:15:01
Chuku
Okay, it's a good season. But is it great? Is it great? I don't think...
00:15:04
Emeka
winger, yeah, pretty great.
00:15:05
Chuku
Okay, well, we have our different opinions.
00:15:05
Chino Onwuka
you
00:15:09
Chuku
It was a good season. Since then, do you understand that Martinelli has not been able or has failed to get double digits, goals, since that one season?
00:15:20
Chuku
Granted, a lot of them in seasons in the past, injuries has played a big role in that.
00:15:25
Chino Onwuka
you
00:15:26
Chuku
But we have eyes, Mike. We have eyes, guys. The guy literally has one move.
00:15:36
Chuku
Stop, go. Stop, go. Cut in. Cross with his right foot. He cannot do anything. Bro, his confidence is, like, you can just see it with the shots he takes.
00:15:45
Chino Onwuka
you
00:15:45
Emeka
Thank
00:15:49
Chuku
They don't even have any conviction behind him. He just shoots the ball and it doesn't even go on target, bro. Like, man, all I'm going to leave with is, for one, Arsenal, Ateta has a lot to prove.
00:16:05
Chino Onwuka
you
00:16:05
Emeka
you.
00:16:06
Chuku
It's 10 games. You know, I hope, you know, with Ardegar coming back, maybe we can turn this around. Chelsea this weekend is going to be, it's a, it's imperial that we win, that we get three points.
00:16:21
Chuku
Because if we lose that game to Chelsea, boy, oh boy, boy, oh boy, it's going to be a long season.
00:16:24
Emeka
Ooh.
00:16:25
Chino Onwuka
you
00:16:29
Chuku
And for everyone that's talking about, I know a lot of people talk about Thomas Partey hate.
00:16:30
Emeka
i said gang
00:16:36
Chuku
Man, that guy has been one of our more consistent players, funny enough. And I just think people need to put some respect on Thomas Pardee. Declan Rice?
00:16:45
Chino Onwuka
Thank you. julie
00:16:47
Chuku
Yeah, no, fair enough. I mean, because I don't want it to seem like it's all doom and gloom because there are players that have actually been all right and consistent, okay? I think Thomas Pardee has been one of those consistent players, okay?
00:16:59
Chuku
But our attack has been horrendous. Horrendous, barring Saka.
00:17:04
Chino Onwuka
I was going to talk about that, Julie.
00:17:06
Chuku
And my fear is that if this continues, man, if I'm Saka, why would I want to stay? Apart from the reason, obviously, he came through the ranks and he's a heel-end boy.
00:17:16
Chuku
Why would I want to stay in this? Honest to God, in the next three, four years. Why? If this continues. Obviously, we're hoping it doesn't.
00:17:25
Emeka
Thank
00:17:25
Chino Onwuka
Thank
00:17:26
Chuku
And I hope we improve. But for me, for us to improve this team, we need to get more creative players in the squad. We need to get more attacking-minded players in the team.
00:17:39
Chuku
Mainly, we need to get a new left winger. I'll be begging this. I'll be saying this until the day it happens. We need a new left winger. We need a new striker. We need a new attacking midfielder that can help give Odegaard some rest.
00:17:54
Chuku
And until we get these things, I just don't have any confidence that we are going to win any major titles. And if things don't start to get better, man, I'm starting to get worried that certain top players in our club might start looking elsewhere.
00:18:11
Chuku
Saliba being one of them. I mean, we've been hearing a lot of talks about Saliba and Real Madrid. Man, who knows? Who knows what's going to happen? But the point is, if things don't change, we are missing, we could be losing our key players.
00:18:25
Emeka
so
00:18:25
Chino Onwuka
Thank
00:18:26
Chuku
And if that's the case, well, we just went and did all this building of this team just to go and do what, guys? Win the FA Cup. And we even win the FA Cup with the team that we have right now. Win the FA Cup with the team that Emily left for Tata to take over.
00:18:39
Chuku
And it's a shame that as much as we... There are a lot of guys in this team that we rate highly.
00:18:45
Emeka
so
00:18:46
Chuku
I know that we rate highly. I know how we feel about Saliba. I know how we feel about Saka. I know how we feel about Odegaard. It would be a hell of a disservice if we go the next year, two, three years, and we do not win a single major trophy with these players that we have in the team.
00:19:04
Emeka
so
00:19:06
Chuku
So, I don't know what you got to do. Go back to the drawing board, figure something out. You know, I don't know what you got to do, but you just got to make changes.
00:19:17
Chuku
And we just cannot be playing the type of football that we've been playing the last couple of weeks moving forward. Otherwise, it's going to be one hell of a disgusting season.
00:19:25
Emeka
Thank
00:19:25
Chino Onwuka
Thank
00:19:26
Chuku
And top four will be lucky at this point. Because I'm telling you right now, I see Chelsea play. I enjoy seeing Chelsea play more than I see my own club playing right now.
00:19:38
Chuku
In terms of the type of football that they're playing. It is crazy for me to say this. And like for the longest time, obviously this is us without Odegaard. Maybe that my feeling of that, of that watching us play would change with Odegaard slowly coming back to the team.
00:19:53
Chuku
But since Odegaard has been gone, boy, oh boy, the type of football that we've been playing has been a horrific sight to see. Horrific.
00:20:03
Chuku
To the point where I don't even recognize my football team anymore. So, anyways, that was my rant. I think, you know, let me hear what you guys got to say about this. I
00:20:13
Chino Onwuka
I mean, just just just round of applause. Round of applause.
00:20:17
Emeka
You feel better? You got it off your chest now? You feel good?
00:20:19
Chuku
feel better.
00:20:20
Chino Onwuka
I the twelve just looked at the clock.
00:20:21
Emeka
You feel better? Okay.
00:20:23
Chuku
yeah
00:20:23
Chino Onwuka
I just looked at the That was 20 minutes.
00:20:24
Emeka
Hey, man. He had a lot to say. He had a lot to say.
00:20:31
Chino Onwuka
stamina right there. That's stamina right there.
00:20:34
Emeka
Hey, man.
00:20:35
Chino Onwuka
I have some comments, this some of the things you said but a meu said i i'm go let you
00:20:36
Emeka
I
00:20:41
Chino Onwuka
much
00:20:41
Emeka
mean, I'm trying to be Mr. Optimus this year. I can't really rebut anything he said.
00:20:45
Chuku
I feel better.
00:20:47
Emeka
I will say it's funny you listed all our lack of creativity as probably an indictment of the club that you didn't even mention a guy we spent $40 million on, Fabio Vieira, who we just shipped back off to Portugal.
00:20:59
Emeka
And I don't know. It would have been kind of nice to have him on the team this year. I don't know. We loaned him out because it would be nice to have him.
00:21:04
Chuku
You know, I don't want to rate that
00:21:05
Chino Onwuka
said, but I'm not going to let you. I'm not going to let you.
00:21:08
Emeka
He's a different profile, at least. And we loaned him out because apparently he wanted to give minutes to Warneri. Well, he ain't getting those minutes, in my opinion. So, you know, one of those things where I don't know.
00:21:20
Emeka
I don't know. It's tough right now, but it's early. And to make my point about how early it is, I pulled up the table from this.
00:21:25
Chino Onwuka
you
00:21:27
Emeka
Ten games have been played. At this time last year, who was top of the table? Do you remember? games in.
00:21:35
Chino Onwuka
Probably
00:21:36
Emeka
It was Tottenham. Season's early, fam.
00:21:38
Chuku
About to say of sports
00:21:40
Emeka
Season's early. That's all I'm trying to say. Season's early. We're 10 games in. So, it's not looking hot right now. Absolutely, I agree. It's been some turgid football. Today, it was Inter Milan.
00:21:52
Emeka
We got a BS handball. And another universe. Haberts got blocked. We scored that one. We don't get the penalty. We win 1-0. I ain't too pressed about it. Inter are very good. Inter are very good.
00:22:03
Emeka
Newcastle, that was terrible, but it's Newcastle away.
00:22:04
Chuku
a Spurs.
00:22:07
Emeka
We lose there pretty consistently. Three out of four of the years, we've lost at St. James Park. It is what it is. So, like, I get it. It's frustrating. I get all the negative feelings. And honestly, I can't really rebut anything Chukwu said because like i think you know arteta he came in and he had that pep disciple mystique about him and people were flaming carrigan when he brought it up i've been bringing this up from from time he's more marino than he is pep like he's a moist disciple much as he's a pep disciple arteta sets up teams especially a way to not lose and we can make fun we can be mad about it but the truth of the matter is if you look up our record against the big six we've been fantastic under arteta we don't lose those games anymore we draw them but we don't lose them under wenger we used to get flogged 5-0 4-0 3-0 consistently so i i refuse to hear that that was better than what it is now.
00:22:24
Chino Onwuka
you
00:22:24
Chuku
Thank
00:22:44
Chino Onwuka
you
00:23:00
Emeka
Obviously, we'd like to go back to smashing teams. We did beginning of the year, early 2024.
00:23:04
Chino Onwuka
you
00:23:06
Emeka
This year, we were slapping teams around. I'm confident we have a tough start to the season. We've had a tough start to the season. I'm confident when we now start playing other teams, the football will get better.
00:23:20
Emeka
And it will coincide with odgar coming back i believe the football will get better if the football is still brutal after we start playing some of the easier games in our schedule then i'm gonna start to be concerned however to your bigger point about the title and everything even though i always i truly believe right it's too early to talk about titles and everything it would yeah i would would like like to to win something, but like, it's, I guess, I don't know.
00:23:24
Chino Onwuka
you
00:23:24
Chuku
Thank
00:23:42
Emeka
I don't, I understand the need to do it and like the fear of our players leaving, but you gotta, you gotta play good football to get there.
00:23:44
Chino Onwuka
you
00:23:50
Emeka
You gotta just like, and Arsenal, in my opinion, play good football under Arteta. So I'm willing to trust the manager, Don McHale. I ain't gonna switch up on the guy. We're in a, doll gyms right now.
00:24:01
Emeka
Absolutely we're in a doll gyms right now. But things can change very fast.
00:24:04
Chino Onwuka
you
00:24:05
Emeka
I remember end of last year, we lost to Fulham and I think Villa back to back. And everyone was, man, this is the worst. We reeled off 17 straight wins it felt like in the Premier League.
00:24:15
Emeka
So things can change real quick. And we're going to talk to them soon. We ain't the only teams in the world right now going through some tough periods, is all I'm going to say.
00:24:24
Chino Onwuka
you
00:24:24
Chuku
Thank
00:24:24
Emeka
Some big names are going through some tough periods. So, I'm looking around, everyone's struggling. Except Liverpool, it feels like. Maybe it is what it is right now, just a tough start to the season.
00:24:35
Emeka
So, you know, Arsenal could be better, and I fully agree that, even though it pains me to say this because he's my boy martinelli you're not mudrick but man you you ain't sack either so like it's it's tough to see him struggle is the just he lacks confidence that's what i can say he just lacks confidence he doesn't take people on anymore so many times he has you know chance to run right backs he passes backwards so he doesn't really do anything i was in the summer you guys i'll give you guys credit you guys were big nico williams fans and i was more like we got martinelli man we don't need to spend money on a left wing i'm with you my brother this summer we have to spend money on a left winger like is it is what a level now where where it it's do or kill or be killed for your position.
00:24:44
Chino Onwuka
you
00:25:04
Chino Onwuka
you
00:25:22
Emeka
And Martino is just not up to the standard right now.
00:25:24
Chino Onwuka
you
00:25:24
Chuku
Thank
00:25:34
Emeka
Why have we stopped playing Zinchenko? I know his defensive issues, blah, blah, blah. There is a consistent third.
00:25:43
Chino Onwuka
you
00:25:43
Emeka
When we played our best football the last two seasons, Zinchenko was among it. And we stopped playing him to be quote unquote defensively solidified. And I can't help but notice that's coincided with us not looking as good offensively.
00:25:57
Emeka
For all his faults, there's a reason why we were smacking teams and putting up 80-plus points when we had Zinchenko as a starter.
00:26:03
Chino Onwuka
you
00:26:06
Emeka
The team is struggling right now. One of my big beats of Arteta is he takes too long to switch things up. I think we're at the point where we've got to throw Zinchenko
00:26:15
Chino Onwuka
Yeah.
00:26:16
Emeka
we got to switch these up a little bit
00:26:17
Chino Onwuka
Thank you. that's yeah i i have a lot I have a lot to say to what both of y'all have said and I'm actually taking notes.
00:26:18
Chuku
You make a good point.
00:26:25
Chino Onwuka
Let me start from somewhere where...
00:26:26
Chuku
before you go off, I don't want to leave that to Sinchenko, but I just want to make one point, okay? My my issue with the Sinchenko point is I'm not even saying we need to play him as a left back.
00:26:41
Chuku
Why is it that we don't even try, don't even try to see what Sinchenko can do in the midfield?
00:26:43
Emeka
back in there, man. Like, we got to switch things up a little bit.
00:26:51
Chuku
You do know that. You do realize that apart from Odegaard, right, making those two ball passes, Sinchenko really is one of our best passes, passers, I should say, of the ball in terms of breaking the line.
00:27:01
Emeka
Easily.
00:27:03
Chino Onwuka
Thank I you.
00:27:03
Chuku
In terms of breaking the line.
00:27:03
Chino Onwuka
feel like this Zinchenko in midfield thing is very like, oh, why can't we play Thomas Vermaulon as a DN?
00:27:15
Chino Onwuka
Why can't we play some of the better hockey center backs? No, because here's the thing, right, that people sort of conflate. You get a lot of, there's additional, there's added value when you get midfield-like performance from your left back, and that opens up space.
00:27:23
Chuku
yeah
00:27:35
Chino Onwuka
Now, it is not
00:27:35
Emeka
i agree
00:27:35
Chuku
Okay. Yeah. No one is getting beat up by weak
00:27:40
Chino Onwuka
that Zinchenko can't play midfield, but then that additional value goes away when you play Zinchenko as a midfielder because then you're trying to get an extra midfielder within the same 11.
00:27:42
Emeka
I
00:27:56
Chino Onwuka
If you play Zinchenko in midfield, just another midfielder, and then you lose somewhere else. So that's the thing. Not that he can't play midfield, but people think it's like this sort of magic solution.
00:28:03
Chuku
by the ringers. Okay.
00:28:03
Emeka
agree.
00:28:06
Chino Onwuka
And also, just because Zinchenko got tackers, just because he can pass the ball, is not the same as what Odegaard does in the final third of the field. It is not the same as what Ethan does in the final third of the field.
00:28:17
Emeka
Well,
00:28:20
Chino Onwuka
People sort of think that anybody that, you know, looks nice on the ball is an attacking midfielder.
00:28:23
Chuku
Thank
00:28:27
Chino Onwuka
Just like, you know, you think Mainu is a 10 and I'm like, he's not a 10 just because he looks nice on the ball. All right, you guys have talked for a while. I want to talk for a bit. Let's go back to the building.
00:28:37
Emeka
obviously. Cook, my brother
00:28:39
Chino Onwuka
We talked about the spending. Let's talk about the whole story with Arteta, right?
00:28:43
Chuku
you.
00:28:43
Chino Onwuka
Why have we spent so much money on just defenders? Well, you know, when he came into the squad, our defense was David David Luiz.
00:28:55
Chino Onwuka
Who's the Greek guy again? I'm trying to...
00:29:00
Emeka
my brother. Socrates.
00:29:01
Chino Onwuka
Rob Holding, Mustafi, a vegetarian Bellerin, and the bodyguard.
00:29:02
Emeka
Mustafi. Tierney.
00:29:11
Emeka
Holding. Chambers.
00:29:14
Chino Onwuka
That was our defense. So that is why we spent, we were chuckle brothers at the back. We were getting ragdolled.
00:29:25
Chino Onwuka
We were getting bent over. We were weak. We were spineless. That's what they made fun of us for. That is why we spent so much money on those positions. Solidified spine.
00:29:35
Chino Onwuka
No problems with that. No problems with that at all.
00:29:41
Chuku
Amen.
00:29:43
Emeka
And he made good purchases to be fair for the backline.
00:29:43
Chino Onwuka
So, really good purchases, really good purchases.
00:29:46
Emeka
He made good purchases to the backline. You know?
00:29:50
Chino Onwuka
The problem though, and I spoke about this this summer, is we got lucky in a couple of things. got lucky with, we got blessed with Saka.
00:30:00
Chuku
Thank
00:30:01
Chino Onwuka
We got blessed that Martinelli became what he was coming from the fourth division in Brazil and and blossomed so much. We got lucky that Real Madrid gave us Odegaard on the cheap.
00:30:14
Emeka
Hey,
00:30:14
Chino Onwuka
We got lucky with the ESR.
00:30:15
Emeka
blessings
00:30:18
Chino Onwuka
Shout out ESR. He was the first one that came up against Chelsea and started changing our fortunes.
00:30:19
Chuku
you.
00:30:24
Chino Onwuka
That is why we spent so much on the back.
00:30:25
Chuku
three
00:30:28
Chino Onwuka
My problem is since then, like Emeka said, he's a moist disciple. He has focused a little bit too much on that, in my opinion, and not addressed the attack as much as he did.
00:30:38
Chuku
Let's raise.
00:30:39
Emeka
blessings.
00:30:42
Chino Onwuka
Jesus should have been hit. I don't know what his village people did.
00:30:48
Emeka
Oh, my God.
00:30:48
Chino Onwuka
Jesus was hit. Something as he's turned back into a pumpkin, the clock is...
00:30:53
Emeka
It's the World Cup, fam.
00:30:53
Chino Onwuka
The clock is in midnight, you know.
00:30:54
Emeka
It's the World Cup, man.
00:30:58
Emeka
said It's It's sad.
00:30:58
Chino Onwuka
Yeah, everything is changed.
00:30:59
Chuku
Thank
00:31:02
Chino Onwuka
And we haven't done enough since then. We haven't done enough since then. You know, I was calling for certain profiles. I know y'all are laughing.
00:31:14
Chino Onwuka
I was calling for certain profiles like Nico Williams, John Neves, just to spooze things up a little bit, right? To change. Because the thing with Arteta that I don't like for, well, just to address some things.
00:31:28
Chino Onwuka
Arteta has, and this Arsenal team, over the last two seasons, have brought me so much joy. So much joy that as frustrated as I am right now, I'm not going to give up on them.
00:31:37
Emeka
Thank
00:31:44
Chino Onwuka
I'm not going to get negative or bitter about them. I'm going to give them a chance because I know what this team has. The problem with Arteta, and this has happened a couple of times during his run, is we are really good, so teams spend a lot of time trying to figure out how to counter us.
00:31:57
Chuku
Thank
00:32:05
Chino Onwuka
And at times, they get something right, and it takes him too long to change because he is a little bit too conservative. I've been trying to put a lot of thought into what has happened this season.
00:32:18
Chino Onwuka
The performances haven't been there. I think part of what has hurt us during this time, and like Emeka said, we had the same blip in December last year, and eventually he figured it out by throwing Kai up front.
00:32:32
Chino Onwuka
Even Kai we got lucky with to an extent. He was butters a midfielder.
00:32:37
Emeka
Thank sixty five million you better be looking
00:32:37
Chino Onwuka
Yeah. What has happened this year is our schedule has been biblical.
00:32:48
Emeka
thank you
00:32:50
Chino Onwuka
And to confound that biblical schedule, we now had injuries and red cards on top of it.
00:32:57
Chuku
Thank
00:32:59
Chino Onwuka
So he has not been willing to take risks to switch things up or to try something new. This is my opinion during this period.
00:33:12
Chino Onwuka
And the hope was probably like, let's just get through it. Let's squeak things by. That hasn't worked. That hasn't worked.
00:33:22
Chino Onwuka
But the problem with Arteta is it takes him too long to switch things up. can't lose older guard and then stop playing the way we want to play.
00:33:32
Chino Onwuka
If you're telling me in away games versus certain teams, we set up a certain way, that's fine.
00:33:36
Emeka
so
00:33:41
Chino Onwuka
we're playing other teams, teams should be better than regardless of if our starters aren't out. We need to play to our identity, which is, yes, solid at the back, but still suffocating them in attack.
00:33:54
Chino Onwuka
And that is what we missed this year.
00:33:55
Emeka
so
00:33:55
Chuku
Thank
00:33:57
Chino Onwuka
Whether it be Rice not being at his best, so that counter-press isn't working as much, with the combination of Odegaard being out, with the combination of new signings in Califiori and Marino not being up to speed.
00:34:12
Chino Onwuka
It's just a confluence of so many factors right now.
00:34:15
Emeka
Thank
00:34:16
Chino Onwuka
And Arteta needs to be braver and believe in the team that, yeah, we're going to be solid at the back, but we still have the players to outscore you. Because we don't have that super finisher.
00:34:28
Chino Onwuka
We don't have that guy that's just going to get a half chance and bang it in. So we need to generate multiple chances and let the percentages give us a goal.
00:34:35
Emeka
you.
00:34:38
Chino Onwuka
I love Kai. He is what he is. So the best way to maximize Kai is get lots of balls in the box chances so that out of the five he gets, one of them he's going to lose.
00:34:50
Chino Onwuka
It creates more space.
00:34:52
Emeka
You're
00:34:53
Chino Onwuka
It makes things easier for Martinelli.
00:34:55
Chuku
Thank
00:34:57
Chino Onwuka
Martinelli, for some, yeah, he's regressed. Teams are playing him differently. He hasn't worked out a different way. So we need to find solutions to open it up because I don't see why with the players that we have, we can't take more risks.
00:35:11
Chino Onwuka
I think that's the key word. We don't take enough risks. And you know we're not taking enough risks and we're still conceding goals.
00:35:15
Emeka
not wrong.
00:35:21
Chino Onwuka
So if we're still going to be conceding these goals let's try and take more risks. Now to some of the things that know, Emeka said. is my team.
00:35:32
Emeka
so
00:35:32
Chino Onwuka
This is my club. This is my coach. I'm going to support him. I'm going to support that. I'm disappointed right now. But I still love y'all.
00:35:44
Chino Onwuka
And I'm going ride. I'm a ride, you know?
00:35:48
Emeka
emma Exactly. I need more of this energy man
00:35:49
Chino Onwuka
I thought I'd go out to the Man City game because the margins, because I feel like Arteta feels how I feel.
00:35:52
Chuku
Thank
00:35:56
Chino Onwuka
The margins were so small that that pushed him to the dark side. Because he's a perfect, taking risks positively, he decided to be more conservative.
00:36:06
Chino Onwuka
That hasn't worked. Might as well get rid of the handbrake and let's play exciting football.
00:36:12
Emeka
of this energy, man.
00:36:12
Chuku
you.
00:36:15
Chino Onwuka
Let's continue to, you never know what can happen in the league. We're far from title favorites right now. I don't think we're in a top four race.
00:36:25
Chino Onwuka
I still think we're comfortably going to be in top three.
00:36:26
Emeka
Yeah. Man, it's
00:36:29
Chino Onwuka
But we need to back that out with how we play.
00:36:32
Chuku
so
00:36:33
Chino Onwuka
I still think we're in a good position in the Champions League still, funnily enough. I think we need to give League Cup a go. FA Cup, we'll see when that comes around.
00:36:45
Chino Onwuka
But, you know, right now we're not title challengers. We're still going to be a top team. You know, if you look at the top 10 in the table right now, we've played like pretty much all of them and all of them away.
00:36:52
Emeka
wilder on that one.
00:36:52
Chuku
so
00:36:56
Chino Onwuka
So the second half should be more favorable. And we've played it with injuries, underperformance, and red cards almost every other gig so
00:37:07
Emeka
Listen, I know Chukui wants to speak, but I got to emphasize the points that Chino made there.
00:37:12
Chuku
Thank you.
00:37:13
Emeka
We have played so far. This is week 10 of the season. We have played Aston Villa away, Brighton at home, Spurs away, Man City away, Bournemouth, people lie, Bournemouth have been smacking teams away.
00:37:28
Emeka
Liverpool at home. Newcastle away. That's a tough schedule.
00:37:31
Chino Onwuka
in almost every other game.
00:37:32
Emeka
That's a tough schedule.
00:37:32
Chuku
so
00:37:33
Chino Onwuka
And then Chelsea next.
00:37:33
Emeka
You're opening 10 games and then Chelsea's next game.
00:37:35
Chino Onwuka
And then Chelsea next.
00:37:37
Emeka
Like, that's
00:37:37
Chino Onwuka
We played all our alts within 10-11 games.
00:37:40
Emeka
what I'm saying. Like, I get the start of the season has not been great. And like, everything people are saying is factual. All I'm saying is, you know, we got, that's why I asked the question, do like, you give any grace to the part that two of our most recent performances have been away to big teams?
00:37:52
Chuku
so
00:37:56
Emeka
Because I think that has to be factored in. If I see Arsenal go at home against Norton Forest, we play them after the international break. If we go to Norton Forest in the Emirates and we're playing this turgid football, that's when I'll start being concerned.
00:38:11
Emeka
But away to Newcastle, we lost to three of the last four years.
00:38:12
Chino Onwuka
Thank
00:38:12
Chuku
Thank
00:38:15
Emeka
Like, it is what it is. We lose. Like I said, and then I let you cook, Jukul, but under Wenger, man, I used to get, it used to be a known thing. We get slapped by teams away.
00:38:27
Emeka
There was a season where we lost 6-0 to Chelsea, 5-0 to Man City, and 4-0 to Liverpool. All in the same season away.
00:38:32
Chino Onwuka
you.
00:38:34
Emeka
We don't lose those games under Arteta anymore. Like, I think under Arteta's last three years, he's been by far the best manager against the other big six. He doesn't lose those games anymore.
00:38:44
Emeka
That means something to me. Yeah, we're in a tight spot right now. Let's see what the table says after Christmas.
00:38:50
Chino Onwuka
you
00:38:51
Emeka
You know?
00:38:51
Chino Onwuka
Thanks.
00:38:52
Emeka
Let's see what the table says after Christmas.
00:38:53
Chino Onwuka
And now I remember the other point I wanted to make is I would love for us to win a title.
00:38:55
Emeka
Hmm.
00:38:59
Chino Onwuka
And I was thinking about why do I want to win a title? You know, is it to shut up the haters? Yes. Is it to do something that, you know, I haven't seen us do in a long time?
00:39:10
Chino Onwuka
Yes. But really, thinking about it, the biggest reason I want us to win a title is for those boys who have brought me so much joy this weekend to win that title, to get a reward for everything that they're putting on the field.
00:39:12
Chuku
Thank
00:39:27
Chino Onwuka
Because they are a jogger. Like, it's actually unfair what they're facing and have to overcome. Shout out Liverpool for overcoming it. Like, that is underrated.
00:39:38
Chino Onwuka
Only one team can win the title each season. We have been close to being the best team in the league.
00:39:48
Chino Onwuka
Coming
00:39:49
Emeka
Boy,
00:39:51
Chino Onwuka
into the season, I said, we did our predictions. I said second because I still did not feel like we were the best team in the league. And it would be, it would take something crazy.
00:40:03
Chino Onwuka
It would take perfection for us to win the league. That's not going to happen. So what do I want to see? I want to see us keep fighting. Why did I fall in love with the club?
00:40:12
Emeka
we close.
00:40:12
Chuku
Thank
00:40:13
Chino Onwuka
It wasn't because of titles or else I would have chosen to be a man you fat. You glory hunters, I see you. All of you that became Chelsea fans, I see you.
00:40:24
Chino Onwuka
I fell in love with the club because of beautiful football and solid beautiful football. That's the team that we've been for the last two and a half seasons.
00:40:32
Emeka
Thank
00:40:36
Chino Onwuka
That's what we need to continue to be. That's all it takes for me to continue to love this club. I hope we win a title. We really do. If we never win one with these guys, it'll be a shame because I feel like they deserve to.
00:40:52
Chino Onwuka
But I don't think that is a referendum on the coach and on these players if we aren't able to win a title when Pep's City are in the league, when we're also playing against Klopp's Liverpool, against a team that is still very young, I don't think that's a referendum on them if they're not able to do it because sometimes it's just not your time.
00:41:12
Chuku
Thank
00:41:15
Chino Onwuka
Sometimes it's just a team that's better. And we've been really close. We've been second best team in England for the last two and a half seasons. Top five teams in Europe for the last two and a half seasons.
00:41:27
Chino Onwuka
That's hard to do. So, you know, it's almost Thanksgiving in the US, so, you know, sometimes you look at what you're supposed to be grateful for, and we've been close.
00:41:31
Emeka
Oof.
00:41:37
Chino Onwuka
If we don't win a title, it'll be a shame for the boys. It'll be a shame for the club, but I don't think that's a referendum on that.
00:41:44
Emeka
Amen, oh, amen, amen
00:41:48
Chino Onwuka
okay i think we've we've talked about um you know like
00:41:53
Emeka
a good forty minutes and arc so hey man for podcast listeners well we're doing well would he spend this time on arsenal for the record
00:41:57
Chino Onwuka
look
00:42:01
Emeka
kept home we're giving y'all content. yeah I'm just saying. When we start winning again, don't be surprised when you have 50-minute episodes.
00:42:10
Chino Onwuka
Okay. I think we've talked about Arsenal enough. Trust.
00:42:10
Emeka
Waxing Lyrica about Arsenal.
00:42:10
Chino Onwuka
Trust.
00:42:11
Emeka
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00:42:12
Chuku
Thank
00:42:12
Emeka
That's all I'm saying.
00:42:12
Chino Onwuka
I'm not being humble. I'm not being humble.
00:42:15
Emeka
You know? We're paying the piper here, but hey, that's all I'm saying.
00:42:16
Chino Onwuka
The interesting thing is, you know, we're not the only ones in this boat.
00:42:23
Emeka
That's what trying to say.
00:42:24
Chino Onwuka
We talk about two giants of Europe who are also struggling for multiple reasons. Probably to summon some of the same reasons that Arsenal have been struggling. And that is Manchester City and Los Blancos, Real Madrid.
00:42:42
Emeka
Someone's here as a second team also struggling, and that's why he's going through it right now.
00:42:45
Chino Onwuka
as why that yeah That's why tough on him. He's getting it from both.
00:42:48
Emeka
That's why he's going through it right now.
00:42:50
Chino Onwuka
So, Man City have lost three games in a row for probably the first time in maybe since COVID period.
00:42:59
Emeka
I saw the stats since 2018.
00:43:01
Chino Onwuka
Yeah.
00:43:11
Chuku
Thank
00:43:13
Emeka
about to say hey
00:43:27
Chino Onwuka
the
00:43:31
Chino Onwuka
odds were clearly in their favor to win all those games. What's going on?
00:43:36
Emeka
i mean they're not easy teams i'll just say, not easy teams. but I mean, they lost the Spurs in the Cup, Bournemouth in the league, and then Sporting Lisbon in the Champions League. Yeah, I agree.
00:43:46
Chino Onwuka
No, these are teams, but this is Man City.
00:43:47
Emeka
City a favorite, but... Yeah, but... Hey, i i also, fans can attest, Bournemouth are not easy these days.
00:43:55
Chino Onwuka
I don't think there's there's no easy games in the Prem, but this is Man City. I would expect it. It's not like they lost to Liverpool, Liverpool, and Real Madrid.
00:44:07
Emeka
Yeah, no, I get what you're
00:44:10
Chuku
Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
00:44:16
Emeka
ah
00:44:17
Chino Onwuka
who are still Tottenham.
00:44:17
Chuku
Tottenham has always had that number. bormouth I just heard my brother say that Bortemouth is a team to watch or a team that does something.
00:44:24
Chino Onwuka
Yes, yes.
00:44:26
Chuku
And Sporting Lisbon has the one of the most informed strikers in the league who scored a hat-trick against him.
00:44:29
Emeka
saying. I'm just...
00:44:31
Chuku
Like, I mean, sure, two penalties, okay, great.
00:44:32
Emeka
were two penalties for to be fair
00:44:35
Chuku
But still one of the most informed strikers in the league. He's still to put those goals away. And he's still got a hat-trick who took the home ball. So, like, you say this, but, like, Man City have won the league four years in a row.
00:44:49
Emeka
We're two penalties, to be fair.
00:44:49
Chino Onwuka
Yes.
00:44:50
Chuku
Like, they are allowed to, especially after to losing their Ballon d'Or winner in Rodri, are allowed to take a step back and and lose some games. They are there are there they are allowed
00:45:02
Chuku
to loosely
00:45:02
Chino Onwuka
That doesn't mean, Katie, you're confusing me right now.
00:45:05
Chino Onwuka
So the team that has been the best in the world for five years, have won four in a row, is not allowed to take a step back.
00:45:09
Emeka
Thank
00:45:15
Chino Onwuka
But then when Arsenal takes a step back, when they're not the best in the world, that was that does not make sense.
00:45:21
Chuku
allowed to lose some games. I do not know how that... I swear to God... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, let's start with this. I swear to God, I do not know how you don't get this.
00:45:29
Emeka
you.
00:45:29
Chuku
What has Arsenal gone to show for what you're talking about? Like, holy smokes, this is my problem off so fast.
00:45:34
Chino Onwuka
The thing that's better... Exactly. Our team is not as good...
00:45:36
Chuku
I'm sick, I'm fucking sick.
00:45:38
Chino Onwuka
Our team is not as good as our team is not as good.
00:45:38
Chuku
Bro, we have nothing to show for anything. We have, no, chin-up, chin-up, chin-up, Chinna.
00:45:43
Chino Onwuka
So players, if you're saying Man City will struggle without their top players, then of course Arsenal would you would expect them to struggle without a top player.
00:45:45
Chuku
chin You're going to make me go off. You're going to make me go off.
00:45:49
Chuku
Chinna. Man City have really won major trophies in the last four years, bro.
00:45:49
Emeka
you
00:46:00
Chino Onwuka
people
00:46:00
Chuku
They are allowed to lose games. Chinna, no. They are allowed to lose games because they've already done it. They've won quadruples.
00:46:08
Emeka
you
00:46:10
Chuku
They have won, bro. Arsenal should be hungry. We are the team that should be looking to take the next step and be trying to become Man City. Are you kidding?
00:46:20
Chuku
Bro, this is my problem.
00:46:20
Chino Onwuka
you you
00:46:21
Chuku
We have no ambition.
00:46:22
Chino Onwuka
yeah
00:46:22
Chuku
Listen, I know people have said this before.
00:46:23
Chino Onwuka
and we go will take a breath Take a breath, Pause right now.
00:46:25
Chuku
Oh,
00:46:27
Chino Onwuka
Pause right now.
00:46:27
Chuku
okay
00:46:28
Chino Onwuka
All right.
00:46:28
Emeka
Thank
00:46:29
Chino Onwuka
All right. You know, yeah, Chico's a little hot right now. So I'm just going to explain my point, right? No one's saying Arsenal should not be hungry.
00:46:41
Chino Onwuka
What I'm trying to say is it's a bit of an irony. It's a bit of an irony because what you've just said is this is a team that has won four prems in a row and has lost their best player and that is the reason they've struggled.
00:46:49
Chuku
my God. Okay. Okay. Okay.
00:47:00
Chino Onwuka
So isn't it fair to say then that a team that is not not as good as them will also struggle for the same reasons? What are your thoughts about that?
00:47:09
Chuku
Thank you.
00:47:11
Chuku
Can I talk?
00:47:14
Chino Onwuka
no, but I want you
00:47:14
Chuku
Can you ask me that question? I just want to understand. Are you asking me that question?
00:47:17
Chino Onwuka
yeah wantll you to answer that question
00:47:18
Chuku
Okay. So your question is, you're saying Arsenal being a worse team than Man City, who lost their best players.
00:47:25
Emeka
Thank you.
00:47:28
Chuku
After seeing Man City lose their own best player, one of their best players, struggle without that best player, why shouldn't Arsenal struggle after losing two of their best players?
00:47:34
Emeka
Two of the best players for the record.
00:47:39
Chino Onwuka
and the same now right you would expect
00:47:42
Chuku
That's what you're asking me, right? Okay. Yep.
00:47:46
Chino Onwuka
to answer other teams you would expect that to happen
00:47:48
Chuku
Okay.
00:47:51
Chino Onwuka
right because what i thought was weird because that's my point that's all i'm saying
00:47:53
Chuku
Mm-hmm.
00:47:55
Chino Onwuka
i just thought it's weird to say that they are allowed to struggle. I think there's a difference between saying, admitting that a team struggles in these scenarios versus saying, oh, well, they got to get out of jail.
00:48:06
Emeka
Thank
00:48:07
Chuku
Yeah, I can answer.
00:48:09
Chino Onwuka
All right, cool.
00:48:09
Chuku
I can answer.
00:48:10
Chino Onwuka
That's all I wanted to ask, because I'm sure there's probably people listening who are thinking as well.
00:48:11
Chuku
Okay. Yeah.
00:48:15
Chino Onwuka
So that's, I know you went off on me a little bit.
00:48:15
Chuku
Of
00:48:17
Chino Onwuka
I
00:48:19
Chuku
course, man. Of course. We're always good. So, to your point, to your question, right? Okay. The reason why it's different, okay, is because there's something called winner's fatigue, bro.
00:48:32
Chuku
Man City have won so much that at some point, even with them losing, even if Rodri was there, but that's not saying that it would be the case.
00:48:44
Chuku
Obviously, the loss of Rodri has an impact.
00:48:45
Chino Onwuka
just want to make sure we're still cool.
00:48:47
Chuku
Okay? Makes sense. I understand. But the loss of Rodri, this is not the first time Man City have lost Rodri. They've lost Rodri before past seasons and have still shown and won the league.
00:48:59
Chuku
Like, we cannot do this. Okay? They have still shown that they are a team that can, without one of their best players, still perform, still win games, and still win major honors.
00:49:06
Chino Onwuka
you
00:49:06
Emeka
Thank
00:49:12
Chuku
Arsenal has done none of that. So for you to come and ask me the comparison of why this is different, I'm telling you that for us, okay, sure, we lost two of our better players.
00:49:23
Chuku
Okay. But have we won? We've had those two same better players, best players for two years in a row, right?
00:49:26
Chino Onwuka
you
00:49:30
Chuku
Competing. And what have we got? What do we have to show for it? Without having those two players? We have nothing. There's not a, not a single trophy to show for it.
00:49:41
Chuku
And Okay? you're trying to tell me why Arsenal, why is it that there's an excuse for Man City, for them to falter?
00:49:46
Chino Onwuka
you
00:49:51
Chuku
It's two completely different scenarios. It's not the same. Man City have already proven to us that they can win trophies without Rodri.
00:50:01
Chuku
They've proven this. They've gone long stretches already without Rodri and still been able to man the fort and win a major trophy at the end of the season.
00:50:06
Chino Onwuka
you
00:50:06
Emeka
Thank
00:50:14
Chuku
Arsenal, this is the first time we've capitulated in terms of getting unlucky with injuries. And look at how obviously it's still early. It's still early. But look at the way we're playing.
00:50:26
Chino Onwuka
you
00:50:27
Chuku
Like we have eyes. Like Man City can play, can not play great football. But guess what? They have Haaland who all he needs is one or two touches and he's scoring a goal.
00:50:38
Chuku
You've seen them score last minute goals.
00:50:39
Chino Onwuka
Okay.
00:50:41
Chuku
You've seen Man City not play great, still score a goal or nick a goal here or there in past seasons and still win the game. Arsenal, okay, have not shown or proven.
00:50:53
Chuku
They have that... Obviously, Arsenal as a club has improved in strides when it comes to the mental parts of the game.
00:51:05
Chuku
But this year, I don't know what reason has been or what's going on, but we're slowly regressing mentally in terms of the decisions that players are making in terms of getting red cards here.
00:51:05
Chino Onwuka
Mm-hmm.
00:51:06
Emeka
Thank
00:51:19
Chuku
Injury is not enough. Just losing Saka and Odegaard should not be enough to start displaying some of the performances that we have seen the club play after having the amount of years that Arteta has had in order to build this team.
00:51:26
Chino Onwuka
Thank you.
00:51:37
Chuku
That
00:51:40
Chino Onwuka
Yeah, no no one's saying is an excuse, right? that's That's what I'm saying. There is no excuse for Arsenal, but you know just we're going to move on from this really quickly.
00:51:52
Chino Onwuka
Arteta has had all these years with the team.
00:51:58
Chino Onwuka
He cannot have this stretch of performances and results just because two of his players are are gone, right?
00:52:04
Emeka
Thank you.
00:52:04
Chuku
should not be an excuse.
00:52:07
Chino Onwuka
Right?
00:52:08
Chuku
right
00:52:10
Chino Onwuka
Has Pep coached City longer than Arsenal?
00:52:14
Chuku
sorry what
00:52:15
Chino Onwuka
asking a question. Has Pep coached Manchester City longer than Arteta has coached Arsenal?
00:52:21
Chuku
Yeah?
00:52:21
Emeka
you
00:52:22
Chino Onwuka
Does he have better players than Arsenal do? Top to bottom?
00:52:27
Chuku
Right now, or are you talking like where you it about right now? As we're talking this this season? all you foreign two
00:52:34
Chino Onwuka
Yeah.
00:52:36
Chuku
sure yeah yeah
00:52:37
Chino Onwuka
Okay.
00:52:38
Emeka
Thank
00:52:38
Chino Onwuka
So even though Pep has been at City for almost 10 years now, even though he has players like Haaland and Phil Foden coming off the bench, that sort of depth that we don't.
00:52:52
Chino Onwuka
They are also struggling, and he's also not getting results when he's lost his two best players, right?
00:52:56
Chuku
is that what you're referring to sure yeah yeah
00:53:01
Chino Onwuka
So regardless of the fact that the fact that they've won so many championships means it is even more of a surprise that they have lost three in a row.
00:53:12
Chino Onwuka
It's even more of a shock, which is what we're trying to dissect. Just in the same way we dissected what is going on with Arsenal, a based off of history and results, a lesser team, the same thing is also happening to Man City, to a better team and to a better manager.
00:53:17
Chuku
Thank
00:53:31
Chino Onwuka
So what you, instead of what you just sort of cast away all of what we're talking about, because then someone could say, well, well, she, if that's happening to Pep, then of course it's happening to Arsenal.
00:53:37
Emeka
Thank
00:53:45
Chino Onwuka
Because all the coins that you've made just prove that if it if something like that can happen to Man City, then should we be surprised that it's happened to Arsenal?
00:53:54
Chino Onwuka
Because you can't just say, they've won five in a row, so even though they have injuries, you know it's okay that they've lost three in a row.
00:53:55
Emeka
you.
00:54:02
Chino Onwuka
I just thought that was interesting.
00:54:06
Chuku
Okay, well, look, was it i was gonna up to grief to disagrees it's okayly I was going to agree disagree.
00:54:07
Chino Onwuka
no theologist
00:54:10
Chino Onwuka
just' been last
00:54:13
Chuku
anyway
00:54:16
Emeka
I'm dying, fam. I'm dying, fam. Bro, Arsenal, win the calling cups so my brother Chukwu can survive, bro. The guy is going through trophy withdrawals, man.
00:54:26
Emeka
He's going through trophy withdrawals right now, man. We got to win something. We got to win something.
00:54:30
Chuku
It's okay, man. I was going to agree to disagree. Anyways. Nah, man.
00:54:32
Chino Onwuka
Thank you.
00:54:33
Chuku
I'm so tired, bro. I'm so tired.
00:54:33
Emeka
Let my brother survive, bro.
00:54:36
Emeka
This is crazy. Anyhow, Mad City, I mean, I want to say they're going to be all right, but even though I've made this prediction for how many years in a row, i've always been wrong when i make this prediction i'm gonna make it again they're gonna struggle this year and this is the reason why i picked arsenal to win the league beginning of the year and i yeah it was one of my hearts but part of my head like what you can say i kind of agree with they've won four in a row there is going to be a fall off.
00:54:46
Chino Onwuka
And they will be. They will be. We all both and will be they will be
00:55:07
Emeka
It's inevitable. No one wins forever. Eventually, you win so much, you have a down year.
00:55:11
Chuku
Thank
00:55:12
Chino Onwuka
all know they will be. They will be.
00:55:13
Emeka
This is shaping up like one of those years. They're having a mad injury crisis. Mad injury crisis. Half their team is out injured or hurt. Limping. Holland is still Holland, but he's been missing chances a little bit.
00:55:26
Emeka
And then they play, my goodness, one of the most suicidal lines. And they used to get away with it because they had, in my opinion, the best recovery defender I've ever seen in Kyle Walker.
00:55:32
Chino Onwuka
you
00:55:36
Emeka
Kyle Walker is now like 37. He's old now. And he's getting cooked way more frequently. So that higher line needs to get away with. Now all of a sudden, teams are catching them like Bournemouth did with Semenu.
00:55:47
Emeka
Like, teams are catching them on the break way more often now. And, like, they're going to get better.
00:55:52
Chino Onwuka
you
00:55:53
Emeka
Obviously, they're going to get better. They're not going to lose all the time. But this is the reason why I kind of thought we had a chance to catch them this year. Because they didn't make any major signing. They signed Savino in the summer. He's been great. But I feel like this is the end of a city cycle.
00:56:06
Emeka
All their players have to get into the 30s now. And they have to refresh the team a little bit.
00:56:12
Chino Onwuka
you
00:56:12
Chuku
Thank you.
00:56:12
Emeka
And, you know, the 115 charges are still hearing, still pending.
00:56:17
Emeka
So I feel like the vibes are still kind of weird. Pep is on his contract. Is he going to leave? Is he going to come? Like, I felt like this was coming. Obviously, it's early. So I'm not trying to count my chickens before they hatch.
00:56:28
Emeka
But I'm not super shocked that this is the performances they're giving right now.
00:56:31
Chuku
All
00:56:32
Chino Onwuka
you
00:56:33
Emeka
Because, like, I also, I feel like teams have realized that you can't just sit back against City. You sit back against City, they'll pass you to death. You got to go at them.
00:56:43
Emeka
Because, again, they played the suicidal line. I don't know if you guys saw the sporting highlights, but my goodness, Jokaris was running from halfway line, one-on-one with the keeper like three times during that game.
00:56:52
Chino Onwuka
you
00:56:52
Chuku
right.
00:56:56
Emeka
It was crazy. You can break that line. You can break them. Look, I trust Pep. He's going to fix it, but, man, if they win the league this year, this will be Pep's finest performance.
00:57:04
Chino Onwuka
vote
00:57:08
Emeka
That's how I feel, truly, if they win the league this year.
00:57:10
Chino Onwuka
I think in addition to what I said, I think it's again, you know, a consequence of multiple things.
00:57:11
Emeka
Yeah,
00:57:12
Chuku
Thank
00:57:16
Chino Onwuka
You know, there's a little bit of hangover and fatigue. And this happens every year with them. They don't get into gear. They get the results, but they don't get into gear until like December. People
00:57:26
Emeka
that
00:57:28
Chino Onwuka
don't understand. You talked about, you know, them being hit on the counter a lot. I think it's two things. People don't understand the fact that, you know, yeah, Walker and his recovery pace that Rodri has in stopping those counters.
00:57:43
Emeka
too as well.
00:57:43
Chino Onwuka
Professional fouls and the ability to anticipate what's going to happen.
00:57:43
Emeka
Professional Fouls
00:57:49
Chino Onwuka
He stops a lot of those counters before it happens and is quickly able to recycle the ball and get the ball to where it needs to be. The other thing now is I think what's happening, what I feel like used to happen a lot is that team would just, and it might just be a perception thing, teams would just give up against it.
00:58:09
Emeka
Meeker, man. No,
00:58:09
Chino Onwuka
You get to a certain point and be like, you know what, it is what it is.
00:58:12
Chuku
Thank
00:58:12
Chino Onwuka
And they wouldn't go at them the way they would go against us, I feel. A lot of that is probably mostly perception. But now, like you said, for whatever reason, teams are like, hey, you know what?
00:58:26
Chino Onwuka
These guys are, maybe they're really mortal this time. Maybe they're really, maybe they're really mortal this time. And that's the thing. It's like, if teams just press a little bit more, you know, you can get something.
00:58:40
Chino Onwuka
It's worth taking that risk. If we're going to lose anyway, we might as well, you know, go down swinging. You know, injuries and, you know, Haaland for, you know, as much of a sharpshooter he is, a lot of times he needs people to create for him.
00:58:46
Emeka
I'm telling you man
00:58:56
Chino Onwuka
And KDB, I think people, you know, sometimes forget who KDB is and the type of chances he can create. That guy is a sniper.
00:59:06
Chino Onwuka
He's a sharpshooter. He's a gunman. He does so many things for that team. I don't know what's going on with Foden.
00:59:12
Emeka
you, man.
00:59:12
Chuku
Thank
00:59:15
Chino Onwuka
Something must have happened in the offseason and maybe they're going to be forced to make up. Foden is just not. It's forced Pep's hand and now he's being forced to start.
00:59:27
Chino Onwuka
He needs to find a way to start creating some of those chances that KDB was getting before.
00:59:32
Emeka
Thank you.
00:59:34
Chino Onwuka
They have a lot of injuries, but I just think teams need to press City more. And if you do, if you're brave enough, you might just get something.
00:59:46
Chino Onwuka
You might just get something something it sucks that this is happening in a season where you take advantage of it i'm not gonna think about that you know just focus on myself focus on what we're doing it sucks you know if they they were having this sort of dip you know two years ago or last year oof within we've been three seeing sensations, but, you know, it is what it is.
00:59:51
Emeka
i swear them I swear, man. I swear,
01:00:11
Chino Onwuka
I still feel like unless Liverpool is able to, you know, keep this same run and we've seen how tough it can be, you know, with Arsenal, Arsenal, keep marching throughout the whole season when you know this team is breathing down your neck, because sometimes that's really what does it.
01:00:12
Chuku
Thank
01:00:29
Chino Onwuka
Because at some point, they will get back, maybe not to the same height, they will get back to the form where they just keep winning games. And that becomes momentum in its own.
01:00:41
Chino Onwuka
And it's up to Liverpool
01:00:45
Emeka
We'll see. All I can say is we'll see because this ain't your dad's pet, man. This ain't your dad's city. I don't know.
01:00:51
Chino Onwuka
to keep ahead of that. And obviously, you know, a lot of changes happen in the club.
01:00:52
Emeka
like They don't have that aura anymore. They don't have that aura.
01:00:56
Chino Onwuka
115. Again, you know, it is still too early to say they don't have that aura. It's 10 years.
01:01:03
Emeka
I said I've been wrong about this like so many years in a row. I can't even lie.
01:01:06
Chino Onwuka
Yeah, two years in a row.
01:01:07
Emeka
I've been wrong about this so many times.
01:01:08
Chino Onwuka
Two years in a row.
01:01:09
Chuku
Thank
01:01:09
Emeka
I'll be like, they're done. no twelve in a row so i've wrong about this before but i just feel it this year i really do i feel it this year
01:01:15
Chino Onwuka
Yeah.
01:01:18
Chino Onwuka
And so so we've talked about City, and I still think they'll come back. We're going to talk about is it still is it now Liverpool's title to lose, which I think maybe we're all thinking there.
01:01:30
Chino Onwuka
Chuku, we're going to come back to you.
01:01:30
Emeka
mascu poor man i don' not let's not talk about liberal
01:01:34
Chino Onwuka
I just want to like, bro, this is not this isn't this is not is more is not Trump versus Kamala here. It's not personal.
01:01:44
Chino Onwuka
We're just having debates. We have different opinions. I was just trying to understand your opinion.
01:01:46
Emeka
Let's not
01:01:48
Chino Onwuka
It's not personal.
01:01:53
Emeka
i'm a joe true i question we go skill living fool because i'm i'm tired of everyone talking about that. To the other team that's struggling right now, as a resident Madridista, my brother, Chukwu, right now sitting here today on November 6th, do you think Real Madrid are going to win La Liga?
01:01:58
Chuku
so
01:01:59
Chino Onwuka
need to talk about them a lot more
01:02:05
Chuku
so
01:02:10
Chuku
no
01:02:12
Emeka
Damn.
01:02:12
Chuku
buts called inna and
01:02:13
Emeka
No chance, huh? No chance. You think it's just...
01:02:16
Chino Onwuka
and so chip I'm going to ask you a question.
01:02:17
Chuku
No. Basel is not going to They're struggling a striker.
01:02:20
Chino Onwuka
um I'm going to ask you a question, right? And just because this is not banter, I'm not trying to tweak you. them a lot more. This is just an honest question, right? I'm trying to get your opinion.
01:02:31
Chino Onwuka
What is Real Madrid's excuse for how they've been the last couple of games? What is their excuse? Is it the same thing? Is it championship hangover because they've been winning so much?
01:02:42
Chino Onwuka
What is their excuse? Because you do not expect this.
01:02:46
Emeka
so
01:03:06
Emeka
Thank
01:03:09
Chuku
Clearly it's not been that Mbappe has not been the same player that he was coming from the left. Maybe be over time, hopefully, you know, the hope is that Mbappe can develop into being that striker, maybe, you know, if they can build more chemistry over time.
01:03:26
Chuku
But as of right now, it's clearly the chemistry is not there and it's showing and in a lot of different ways.
01:03:26
Chino Onwuka
you
01:03:32
Chuku
And the combination of that with also trying to play Jude as a 10, it's just that right now, Ancelotti cannot find the right mix in terms of, you know, trying to get that team working as a cohesion.
01:03:46
Chino Onwuka
you
01:03:49
Chuku
And he's just throwing names out there and hoping for things or magic to happen. And, you know, we've seen performances where Vinny has been able to carry. And, you know, right now, there's just not enough team cohesion.
01:04:04
Chuku
And it's showing a lot in terms of how they're playing.
01:04:05
Chino Onwuka
you
01:04:09
Chuku
And, you know, right now, Barcelona definitely look like they have a better team chemistry at the moment. And, you know, again, it's not the end of the world. You never know. It could be a case where, you know, maybe Mbappe can develop into being that striker that can play with Vinny.
01:04:25
Chino Onwuka
you
01:04:30
Chuku
But as of right now, until that happens, yeah, the team's going to struggle. So that's my best way to put it. It's just a bunch of different main characters in one and one team and not enough chemistry
01:04:44
Chino Onwuka
you
01:04:46
Chuku
at the moment. It's one thing to just have big names, but just having the big names and no chemistry is, is again, you're relying on individual performances and individual performances can only take you you so far so that's my take on Madrid at the moment
01:05:05
Chino Onwuka
Thank you.
01:05:05
Emeka
Thank you.
01:05:06
Chino Onwuka
I think it's a, you know, in addition to what Chukwu has said, I think it's a couple of things. You know, I'll start with Ancelotti and just my thoughts on that. You know, there's been a lot of debate about, oh, look all these guys, look at all these coaches with their jugo de posicion and their positional play.
01:05:25
Emeka
so
01:05:25
Chino Onwuka
You know, here's Don Carlo, you know, with the cigar. He just throws it there, no tactics, and it works.
01:05:29
Emeka
the eyebrow
01:05:32
Chino Onwuka
So all you tacticals, you know, shame on you. And sometimes this is the, you know, we've seen the positives of that. You know, you have experienced, amazing players.
01:05:43
Chino Onwuka
You put them on, put a structure around them and get them to play and do what they do.
01:05:44
Emeka
The eyebrow.
01:05:45
Chuku
Thank
01:05:50
Chino Onwuka
And the talent's going to win out. I think maybe now you're seeing a little bit of the other in that because maybe he doesn't have maybe those patterns of play, you know, drilled where he's demanded that this is what we do, and players are still trying to find what's best for them, that is what is causing those issues.
01:06:05
Emeka
Thank
01:06:11
Chino Onwuka
Because now we're seeing, this is an indictment on Mbappe where you're the nine. You need to play as the nine. You need to stick to your position.
01:06:22
Chino Onwuka
You need to stop trying to come deep. You need to stop trying to come left. And you're a speed demon running behind. You're a striker. Do what you were doing when you were at little.
01:06:33
Chino Onwuka
And, you know, with certain coaches, regardless of the freedom you would give a player of his stature, there'd be certain demands you put on Mbappe in that position.
01:06:45
Chuku
Thank
01:06:47
Chino Onwuka
But with the way Carlo coaches, seemingly, you know, I'm not in the coach's room, you're seeing the problem with that. So, probably at some point, because he is Carlo Ancelotti, let's not, you know, move side of that.
01:06:55
Emeka
Facts.
01:07:03
Chino Onwuka
He'll figure out a system that works. It's going to be 2-7-1 or something, and it's just going to magically work. If Real Madrid don't win La Liga, I don't care how they play.
01:07:16
Chino Onwuka
I already know somehow they're going to win Champions League. It's just the magic that they do.
01:07:19
Emeka
I swear
01:07:22
Chino Onwuka
Two other things that are going on is, one, they're decimated at the back. This is their strategy of either trying to get young kids or wait for people to run out of contract.
01:07:35
Chino Onwuka
Thankfully, it didn't work this year. You know, they lost out on Euro. And I don't know what that means for Saliba going forward, but it didn't work this year.
01:07:45
Emeka
swear.
01:07:45
Chuku
Thank
01:07:47
Chino Onwuka
They weren't as aggressive as they could have been because I think sometimes they just sat a little too much on their high horse. And then in the midfield, you've got all this talent up front.
01:08:00
Chino Onwuka
I don't think they have the right balance in midfield with Cruz gone and Modric aging a bit.
01:08:05
Emeka
so
01:08:09
Chino Onwuka
You've got a lot of good players. I think they need to play Kamavinga more at the 6. They really do. You need Kamavinga in there. You need Bellingham in there, however you want to play it.
01:08:21
Chino Onwuka
And you need a ball manipulator of some of the final pass.
01:08:25
Emeka
Thank you.
01:08:27
Chino Onwuka
And it's a little too haram to do Bellingham, maybe Chumani, Balverde in certain games.
01:08:37
Chino Onwuka
I think just like...
01:08:37
Emeka
Who are you going to bench though? though? That's That's the the real real legit legit issue, issue.
01:08:39
Chino Onwuka
You've
01:08:40
Emeka
is Who that who are are you going you going to to bench, bench with all those three names?
01:08:43
Chino Onwuka
to bench to find the right bounce.
01:08:43
Emeka
So
01:08:45
Chuku
Thank
01:08:45
Chino Onwuka
Yes, big names. To me, it would be Bellingham, Camavinga, and you need to start taking more risks with Arda. Arda Goodall.
01:08:56
Emeka
you're benching Valverde?
01:08:57
Chino Onwuka
Yeah.
01:08:58
Emeka
Damn.
01:08:59
Chino Onwuka
We're benching Malverde.
01:09:01
Emeka
I mean, you're not wrong, but damn.
01:09:01
Chino Onwuka
Or you play him right. Or you play him right wing if you need to.
01:09:05
Emeka
And
01:09:05
Chino Onwuka
When you have that sort of talent, someone's going to have to be on the bench.
01:09:09
Emeka
that's what it is. Someone's going
01:09:10
Chino Onwuka
Yeah. Someone's going to have to be on the bench. So that's what I think is going on with Real Madrid right now. Same thing where, you know, there's names, there's egos.
01:09:20
Chino Onwuka
I think on paper, the right balance is you need, as Modric ages, you need someone with a profile of order to knit everything together so that Mbappe isn't coming to the halfway line to get the ball.
01:09:34
Chino Onwuka
He's not, that's not where he's
01:09:38
Emeka
facts
01:09:39
Chino Onwuka
so yeah
01:09:42
Emeka
i mean I'll try to go quickly. It's early, so I don't want to pat myself on the back, but if only some handsome man didn't predict the beginning of the season, Majero's not going to win the league because he saw this happening.
01:09:45
Chuku
Thank
01:09:54
Emeka
It's just crazy. But regardless, listen, I was...
01:09:55
Chino Onwuka
most effective. So, yeah. I'll give you that. I thought you were crazy.
01:09:58
Emeka
Hey, you know?
01:09:58
Chino Onwuka
I
01:10:00
Emeka
Hey, man. I mean, I can't talk too much. I picked up to smack Barcelona in El Clasico. Look what happened. Real Madrid's back line have to be the happiest people in the world because Mbappe gets all the criticism, all the hate.
01:10:11
Emeka
Meanwhile, they shipped four goals in El Clasico and they shipped three to Milan, both at home, with the last two games. Their back line, like you said, is decimative injury, sure. It's still, you know, Rudiger, Militao, Vasquez, I mean, Champions League winner Vasquez, and Mendy.
01:10:25
Chino Onwuka
thought you were crazy i thought you were crazy
01:10:28
Emeka
That shouldn't be getting exposed like that. Like, it's incredible how easy it feels like teams can run by them. Especially when they're midfield. For what it is, I mean, they play a lot of guys who you think have legs like Valverde, Chouameni, should be covering for them.
01:10:44
Emeka
So, they got to sort that out.
01:10:45
Chino Onwuka
you
01:10:45
Chuku
Thank
01:10:45
Emeka
At some point, something's got to give.
01:10:49
Chino Onwuka
his that's That's the problem, right, though, is, yeah, they have the players to, but, like, are the tactics there to make sure
01:10:49
Emeka
They got to, yeah. And that's what I'm with you. Something's got to give.
01:10:57
Chino Onwuka
yeah yeah
01:10:58
Emeka
Carlos got to pull Mbappe aside and tell him, mon frere, you are a number nine. It is what it is this year. Stop coming deep. Hold the line.
01:11:09
Emeka
You're the fastest guy in the world. Stop being offside. You can wait an extra half second on your runs. You're going to be faster than anybody else. Someone will find you. Stop drifting left.
01:11:20
Emeka
Stay in the middle. Occupy the center backs. That has to be the message. It is what it is.
01:11:25
Chino Onwuka
that when you, yeah, yeah.
01:11:25
Emeka
Look, Carlo, like I said, I always hate when people hype him up as Mr. Vibes because he has some tactics. Last year he had the diamond. That was a tactical maneuver.
01:11:36
Emeka
So he's going to figure something out. And it might be benching Valverde, like you said, even though I love Valverde. Personally, I just feel like I try to make something happen with him, but something's got to give because they start four midfielders and none of them have that pause.
01:11:45
Chino Onwuka
you
01:11:45
Chuku
Thank
01:11:51
Emeka
Only Arda has that on the team and maybe Muldrick, but he's 40 years old. You can't rely on him. They have to figure out a way to get more creative players involved and it's it's it's one of those things where it's like rich people problems because you look at Madrid's squad and you think how are they struggling this is this is a FIFA dream team but clearly it's not it's not mashing for now and I don't know I know I know by the time we record this is late news now where we missed last week's episode, but I got to get this off my chest.
01:12:05
Chino Onwuka
you
01:12:09
Chino Onwuka
here is risking yeah
01:12:24
Emeka
I have always had a big problem with Real Madrid.
01:12:25
Chino Onwuka
Yeah.
01:12:27
Emeka
I hate how they act like they are God's gift to football and they are everything. It's a crime against humanity if any other team can buy a player that's not Madrid.
01:12:38
Emeka
So I thought how they behaved in the Ballon was a disgrace. I know everyone has given their opinion on this and wax lyrical.
01:12:45
Chino Onwuka
you
01:12:45
Chuku
so
01:12:45
Emeka
I'm not going to blame Vinny.
01:12:47
Emeka
I thought Vinny should have won.
01:12:47
Chino Onwuka
as our topline a disgrac yeah
01:12:50
Emeka
Disgracia.
01:12:51
Chino Onwuka
is
01:12:51
Emeka
Look, I was a voter. I'd have voted for Vinny. I understand the frustration. Not even showing up is crazy to me. Your coach won coach of the year. You won team of the year.
01:13:02
Emeka
And forget all that. Carvajal finished third and Bellingham finished fourth.
01:13:05
Chuku
Thank
01:13:05
Chino Onwuka
As Arturka would say, disgrace.
01:13:08
Emeka
That's big things for their careers. Let them go enjoy it. I don't understand how you're so petty when you had a guy who finished second, third, fourth, and sixth. And you're like, whoa, they hate racism.
01:13:19
Emeka
Man, it's so childish to me. That sums up Madrid. That's the most childish team. And they.
01:13:25
Chino Onwuka
Thank That you. was such a, I didn't see that behavior coming at all. Like I know, I i know Perez has this sort of Real Madrid exceptionalism and he tries to sort of create that facaderama, which is mostly deserved.
01:13:39
Chino Onwuka
This was too much, man. Like, it's supposed to be, you know, royalty. It's supposed to then act like it. Because part of royalty is class as well.
01:13:49
Chino Onwuka
Act like you've been there before. Don't be acting like spoiled, nouveau rich. Yeah, they're acting nouveau rich.
01:14:00
Chino Onwuka
Yeah, because
01:14:00
Emeka
You're the richest team in the world. You're the biggest team in the world. The world is not against you, fam.
01:14:05
Chuku
Thank you.
01:14:05
Emeka
The world is not against you.
01:14:06
Chino Onwuka
would what you have to say about your club ah flaable flame
01:14:11
Chuku
Hey man, they were not being professional but all the rumors was that they were told that Vinny was going to win the Ballon d'Or, which I thought that was a crime.
01:14:23
Chino Onwuka
you have to say about your club? Come on. Flame-o. Flame-o.
01:14:25
Chuku
I definitely believe Vinny said what you want.
01:14:26
Emeka
crime is crazy
01:14:29
Chuku
I have a personal theory that I just believe that the committee fucked up by not giving Haaland the Ballon d'Or last year.
01:14:39
Chuku
And Man City had been such a run, such a tear, that they had to give it to a Man City player.
01:14:44
Emeka
Crime is crazy.
01:14:45
Chino Onwuka
Thank
01:14:45
Chuku
And it just so happens that Rodri won the Euros with Spain and won the league again with Man City. So they gave it to Rodri. If you believe that Rodri was the best best player, player you that's know that's your your opinion.
01:15:04
Emeka
so
01:15:05
Chino Onwuka
you. Excuse me, I think Vinny is this was was a deserving winner.
01:15:09
Emeka
Yeah, I'd vote him for Vinny.
01:15:10
Emeka
I'd vote him for Vinny. You know, that's what I'm going to say. It's not like...
01:15:10
Chino Onwuka
or But like I saw some things people said, and it's like, honestly, it's not like this guy went and had FIFA last year.
01:15:21
Emeka
He
01:15:21
Chino Onwuka
So when I saw that, I was like, that was true.
01:15:22
Chuku
and
01:15:23
Chino Onwuka
like but I think his seasons before that were in a way better statistically overall than the seasons he had this year. Now he had performances in yet in moments.
01:15:32
Emeka
had moments last year. Last year was a moments thing. He had big games. He showed up.
01:15:36
Chino Onwuka
Like I said, I remember saying this on this podcast, it was Bellingham that carried them through the first episode.
01:15:36
Emeka
That's...
01:15:36
Chuku
That's the point.
01:15:37
Emeka
Yeah. Half of the year, it was Bellino's Ballon d'Or. People forget that. People, Bellino was the Ballon d'Or favorite until Champions League knockout stages when Vinny took over.
01:15:44
Chino Onwuka
Yeah.
01:15:48
Chino Onwuka
exactly so it's it's was he a deserving winner yes is it a crime no yeah
01:15:54
Emeka
But like my Chukwu said, literally Holland last year was a much bigger robbery to me than what happened year. Haaland was the golden boot winner of a trouble winning team. Didn't win the Ballon d'Or.
01:16:04
Chuku
That's the point.
01:16:05
Emeka
Guess what? He still showed up, took the photos, shook hands, got his second place. And like, act better than this. That's why I don't understand. Madrid, you want club of the year.
01:16:17
Emeka
You want coach of the year. Mast could even come accept the awards because one player didn't win the Ballon d'Or is crazy. And what annoyed me the most is that Madrid is like, what a conspiracy against us.
01:16:24
Chuku
Thank
01:16:26
Emeka
Pull up the Ballon d'Or winners for the past 20 years. Messi, Ronaldo, Madrid players.
01:16:29
Chino Onwuka
so
01:16:32
Emeka
Literally, that's it. And because they don't win one year, they lose
01:16:33
Chino Onwuka
and and now and i And I would feel, and I think maybe he's just getting old and you know sometimes as you get older, you get a little bit more senile. I would think that Perez, he used Yeah.
01:16:45
Chino Onwuka
to be a better politician than this because I know he's still hanging on to this Super League thing.
01:16:50
Emeka
their heads. This stupid Super League.
01:16:51
Chino Onwuka
This does not help his case with you know the rest of the football community whatsoever
01:16:59
Emeka
That's why I have no time for the woe is me from Madrid.
01:16:59
Chino Onwuka
what's it
01:17:01
Emeka
I have zero time for the woe is me from a but
01:17:04
Chino Onwuka
okay
01:17:04
Emeka
a they're gonna be i though they're gonna be like you said if i still today have to pick a championper egg winner still pick madrid because the black magic is just it's too strong
01:17:13
Chino Onwuka
whatsoever. What's okay. Too much.
01:17:13
Emeka
it's too strong
01:17:14
Chino Onwuka
Too much. Okay. So I think that the last topic that we have time for for today is still, you know, some big news, you know. You know, unfortunately, you know, despite, you know, all the evidence, you know, despite despite the stats, despite the the injustices that, you know, he'd been through, you know, one particularly being offside.
01:17:24
Chuku
Thank
01:17:40
Emeka
bear in lead here Aside from the trophies won. Tuku's favorite word in this podcast. The trophies. The trophies. This man has won. For Man United.
01:17:51
Chino Onwuka
More trophies than anybody except Man City. So he should have an excuse. Because he's won trophies, he should have an excuse for his team for some reason.
01:17:59
Emeka
That's what I'm saying. There's something to show for it. There's something to show for it.
01:18:04
Chuku
more trophies won than any manager other than non-name PIP.
01:18:04
Chino Onwuka
Right? Probably they had a little bit of a team from all the trophies they won. Man, he still made the baffling decision to let that to discuss, and they brought in city killer, Almarim,
01:18:16
Emeka
man. Praise my mountain, Hawk, man. Praise my mansion, Hawk. Oh, God.
01:18:25
Chuku
whoa whoa whoa whoaa
01:18:28
Chino Onwuka
the next Marine community from Portugal to come and the lead the helm and take them back to the glory days of Sir Alex Ferguson and Hansby's boys.
01:18:39
Emeka
Oh, my goodness.
01:18:39
Chino Onwuka
Let's talk about that. What do we think of the firing, the hiring, and what can we expect from Amarim and Manchester United going forward?
01:18:42
Chuku
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:18:51
Emeka
It sounds like Sir Jim was through our podcast we had whatever a month ago where we laid out all man use faults and we all decided that it was the stupidest decision bringing bringing back Ten Hag after you interviewed guys in the summer and let him buy his players just to fire him again seven weeks in.
01:19:04
Chuku
Thank you.
01:19:05
Chino Onwuka
been spending and spend money yeah
01:19:08
Emeka
you know Spend all the money just to fire him again seven weeks into the season.
01:19:08
Chuku
crazy work
01:19:13
Emeka
Listen, Ten Hag was supposed to be fired last year. That's all I can say about this. It's a running joke we have about Man U's goal difference? In fact, can anyone have the goal difference off the top of their head right now?
01:19:23
Chuku
Crazy work.
01:19:24
Chino Onwuka
And then spending money, yeah. it's still negative three i think
01:19:27
Emeka
yeah It's crazy. I hope, and it's sad because they hired a guy who I really rate and I think he's going to be great. But Man U has minus three goal difference 10 weeks into the season.
01:19:39
Emeka
Let's just deep down right now.
01:19:40
Chuku
Mo Salah has more goals in Old Trafford than entire man on the team have scored in Old Trafford.
01:19:44
Chino Onwuka
It's still negative three I think.
01:19:46
Emeka
crazy.
01:19:47
Chuku
Just put it out there.
01:19:48
Emeka
It's crazy. So, Ten Hag was supposed to be fired.
01:19:50
Chino Onwuka
i just I just double checked it is still actually negative.
01:19:53
Emeka
yeah Minus three. Unbelievable. So, Ten Hag is supposed to be fired.
01:19:57
Chuku
Again, I don't know which is worse, having and a negative three goal difference, or I repeat, Mo Salah, in game week 11 that we're entering, has more goals in Old Trafford than any, than all of the United team have in, well like, can you like, bro, I don't think people understand, like, how crazy a stat that is, but anyways, I'll just put it out there.
01:19:58
Emeka
you know
01:20:02
Emeka
the more so that and and we'll sell
01:20:21
Chino Onwuka
Whoa, whoa, hold up. Let me make you up understanding why he's saying just Okay.
01:20:24
Emeka
You know? I'll do around.
01:20:25
Chino Onwuka
in this season alone?
01:20:27
Chuku
Just in this season alone, Mo Salah in the Premier League, let's be very clear, in the Premier League has scored more goals in Old Trafford than all of my United put together.
01:20:29
Emeka
In the Premier League and the premmier league lets me
01:20:41
Chino Onwuka
bro
01:20:42
Chuku
Put that out there. Okay. Anyways. Yep. Crazy.
01:20:48
Emeka
did she have fire this man from time had done it now they had ruo run history i dust him off to be inter manager Man U's planning is.
01:20:59
Emeka
They fired Ten Hag. They had the international break. When you always fire your managers before the international break to get the new man to come in and get the squad right.
01:21:04
Chino Onwuka
Bruh.
01:21:08
Emeka
it International break came and went. The first game after the international break, they fired Ten Hag after that. That's just ridiculous management. Like, it's just, I thought Sir Jim was a smart man and was going to change the vibes of the team.
01:21:20
Emeka
But from what I've seen, it's just, and like I said in our Man U episode, Al Morim, who I think, again, is a fantastic coach.
01:21:24
Chino Onwuka
you
01:21:24
Chuku
Thank
01:21:28
Emeka
He's going to come in and he's going to have maybe a hot start, maybe. Man U might finish fourth or fifth this year. And in inevitably, in 18 months, we're going to have the same exact conversations we've had about Man U because it's institutional to me, the rot Man U and I I don't know who's gonna ever fix it maybe it's him I don't know but if I'm a gambling man which I am I'd bet money in two years we're gonna be talking about the next manager for Man U when Amariz results I slip it just because it is what it is with the squad I don't know.
01:21:44
Chino Onwuka
you
01:21:54
Emeka
they just
01:21:56
Chino Onwuka
Because I think he's a good coach. I hope the, you know, I, I, I, like, we know what the the name of the, we know what the nickname of this team is, the Red Devils. It has never been more clear to me that Sir Alex Ferguson did some juju, well sold his soul, sold somebody's soul for the success that they had because it was a lot of criminal stuff was going on.
01:22:15
Chuku
I'm
01:22:23
Chino Onwuka
Because I think he's a good coach. My question is, is how much can he develop and utilize the current squad that he has and make them better and make them perform?
01:22:37
Chino Onwuka
Because the issue he will face, the issue that all the United coaches have faced is a lot of the the problem first starts with the recruitment they've had over the years and those issues with recruitment are still impacting them years down the line wherein they still have players from the David Moyes era at the club.
01:22:44
Chuku
a crowing.
01:22:44
Emeka
Thank you.
01:23:04
Emeka
so
01:23:04
Chuku
Thank
01:23:06
Chino Onwuka
You know, Chuku mentioned that, you know, that FA Cup win from, that was a little bit of Wenger and Emery squad. They're all gone. Only Saka's left that they came to the academy.
01:23:18
Chino Onwuka
And that was, what, four or five years ago. And we know how much we talked about shifting Deadwood and the sacrifices Arsenal need to make to get rid of those players.
01:23:24
Emeka
Thank you.
01:23:28
Chino Onwuka
We're talking guys that have been at United and have been bused since, it's like, 2013. And so what's going to happen now is he's going to come to a team that doesn't have a lot of room on FFP, but they spent 90 million on Anthony.
01:23:37
Emeka
Manas.
01:23:47
Chino Onwuka
They spent 70 million on Casemiro. They're spending 350K a week on on Rashford. Yeah, they can do some business, but he's not going to be able to come, you know, with the sanctions that come to PSR these days, he's not going to be able to come and spend $300 million in a season.
01:24:04
Chuku
Thank
01:24:04
Emeka
Madness.
01:24:10
Chino Onwuka
We were trying to do the math the other day. With sales, maybe he can get up to $100 million, $150 million. So I think that might be, that's what I see as the issue is how much can he utilize the current squad because he's going to have to work with them.
01:24:23
Emeka
Thank
01:24:26
Chino Onwuka
Now, there's a lot of young players with potential that have some flaws, but with their history, especially what happened with Ten Hag, how much are they going to be able to back him because he's going to want to come in and bring some of his players that fit his style.
01:24:43
Emeka
you.
01:24:46
Chino Onwuka
Do the current Manchester United players fit his style, fit his ethos, fit what he wants them to do?
01:24:52
Emeka
No. That's my prediction, but hey. We'll see.
01:24:56
Emeka
he Apparently, Manz is a three at the back merchant. So, we'll see how he can get the squad to adapt to that system.
01:24:58
Chuku
Thank you.
01:25:03
Emeka
But, I don't know, man. I don't know.
01:25:06
Chuku
yeah Is he going to do better than what the Hag was doing? I think
01:25:11
Emeka
I'd hope so.
01:25:12
Chuku
ah ah think that's something you can do so
01:25:15
Chino Onwuka
I feel like they're set up a little bit for three at the back. A little bit.
01:25:19
Emeka
wingbacks?
01:25:20
Chino Onwuka
Wing backs are going to be the issue.
01:25:21
Chuku
dao duo and missouri
01:25:24
Chino Onwuka
But that's it. That's all they have.
01:25:27
Emeka
And those aren't wingbacks. Like, third to back, you need offensive wing backs
01:25:31
Chuku
think that's something he can do. Dalo and Maserari. You don't think is a wingback?
01:25:34
Chino Onwuka
That one can play wing back.
01:25:34
Emeka
na
01:25:36
Chino Onwuka
But again, you're going to have to have other elements of the team to be able to facilitate them at wing because you know a lot of creative onus is going to be placed on Bruno. So they're going to have to have, it all comes down to balance right in the squad.
01:25:50
Chino Onwuka
You're going to have to have everything needed to to play with that formation. Now, who knows? Maybe he can convert Ahmad or Garnaccio.
01:25:58
Emeka
wingbacks. Naurim.
01:25:59
Chino Onwuka
They can play wing back. It's going to be interesting to see. I wish this was happening after. I wish then half could have lasted at least into the Arsenal game.
01:26:10
Emeka
I swear
01:26:10
Chino Onwuka
I don't want that new manager bounce against us. I still think we're going to come back and and get better. I don't know when.
01:26:18
Chuku
Thank
01:26:19
Chino Onwuka
So, you know, but, you know, let's let's, we said the same thing with Ratnik. We said the same thing with Ten Hag.
01:26:28
Emeka
you know andha
01:26:29
Chino Onwuka
Hopefully it's a repeat of the same with Amarim, you know, Old Trafford, the graveyard of dreams.
01:26:38
Emeka
swear. Mino. Banhal. Before we move on, just real quick. It's a philosophical question I want to ask you guys. there've been News has been coming out about Sporting players been mad at Amorim because he made promises to them, hey, don't leave in the summer. We're building a project here. And then he's dipping midway through the season. How do you guys feel about managers being able to move midseason when players are limited to only moving during the transfer window?
01:27:06
Chino Onwuka
It shouldn't be allowed because it destabilizes a team. Now, honestly, I wasn't, it's it's so funny to think about, to think that there was a time where not too long ago, you know, within my lifetime, there was no transfer season and you could just all of a sudden in October sign a player from another club.
01:27:18
Chuku
Thank
01:27:31
Chino Onwuka
Like, I think probably as recently as like 99, you could still do that. So it's it's wild to think that there was a time like that.
01:27:38
Emeka
Thank
01:27:38
Chino Onwuka
And I wonder what the, I'll have to go and look up the real reasons why they started doing transfer windows. But if maybe for whatever, if the reason for transfer windows was to not stabilize clubs, you know, or give teams that don't do advantage if they're struggling.
01:27:54
Chino Onwuka
I think the same rules you have for players, you should have for coaches, at least managers as well. But this is something that you see in all sports.
01:28:07
Chino Onwuka
The rules you have for players are never the same rules for coaches for some reason. You know, looking at, you know, you know, the NBA or the NFL, you know, what advantage that teams can have with rich owners is there's no salary cap on coach salaries.
01:28:18
Chuku
Thank
01:28:23
Emeka
Yeah, no catches, no coach's salaries.
01:28:25
Chino Onwuka
You know, in college football, you know, there was no amateur rules in terms of payment for for coaches. So that was an advantage that players had.
01:28:36
Chino Onwuka
There was no transfers. Players had to either lose a year of eligibility if they transferred schools, or at least now there's ah there's ah there's a certain window at which you can change schools.
01:28:47
Chino Onwuka
There's never been that for coaches. So I feel like they they need to start employing some of the same rules for coaches that they do for players.
01:28:57
Emeka
so
01:28:59
Chino Onwuka
And then the other thing, should we really be surprised that Amarim dipped like this?
01:28:59
Emeka
Couldn't have said go to West Ham.
01:29:04
Chino Onwuka
you know We saw he was agitating for a move in the summer. He took a private plane to West Ham.
01:29:09
Emeka
You took a West Ham interview.
01:29:12
Chino Onwuka
I know he was chatting a bunch of ish after that, but ill just Manz was trying to dip.
01:29:14
Emeka
I swear, man, Chad, ridiculous.
01:29:18
Chuku
Thank
01:29:18
Chino Onwuka
So, you know.
01:29:19
Emeka
I just, I mean, look, I just, for me, it won't rub me the wrong way is that, like, he really was telling his players, don't leave. We're trying to build something. And then dips. I just think that's so, I don't, look, man, it's your career.
01:29:31
Emeka
Career's short. Get the the bread bread when you can't you know no i hate when college coaches do that so and then i'll bring it into the football like at least like i'll also have the decency to to promise his players he's gonna wait this year out like my guy could even give them the year he just two months in the season he's just dipping like that honestly props to the players they handed it well.
01:29:34
Chino Onwuka
That's what college coaches do all the time yeah
01:29:54
Emeka
Only like a couple snide comments here and there. If I was a sporting and player, fam, I would be in the media chatting.
01:29:58
Chino Onwuka
do all the time. Yeah.
01:29:59
Emeka
That's all I can say. I'd be chatting if I was them because that's some shady shit, man. I don't know.
01:30:04
Chino Onwuka
I wouldn't be surprised if we hear, you know, their true feelings come out once he's left.
01:30:04
Emeka
Fair point, actually. when Once he's left, I'm sure Manz will start talking too Because that's so shady to me.
01:30:16
Emeka
And I hate that he's going to Man U because I hate Man U.
01:30:18
Chuku
Thank
01:30:18
Emeka
Now, hey, I'm glad that I liked him before. Now I'm rooting against him because he's you know he's going to Man U and he's pulling this midseason stuff. So, hey, we'll see. Best of luck to his future endeavors, but
01:30:31
Chino Onwuka
And just to be clear, we know, we know that, you know, the analysts and pundits, you know, in the English media are the best of the best and top notch.
01:30:43
Chino Onwuka
You know, Tim Sherwood made, you know, a big point that, you know, Amarim is a good coach. Not only, you know, we've seen the result against City this week, but, you know, last year, you know, he held Arsenal to a point, you know, played really good against Arsenal.
01:31:02
Chino Onwuka
He couldn't score a goal. Bruh, wrong team, wrong coach. These guys don't know what they're talking about.
01:31:10
Emeka
oh i got
01:31:11
Chino Onwuka
That was Consensao, not Amarim.
01:31:15
Emeka
same, fam. What you mean? They're all the the same.
01:31:18
Chuku
Thank
01:31:18
Chino Onwuka
Apparently.
01:31:18
Emeka
They're all the same, bro.
01:31:20
Chino Onwuka
Okay, guys. It's it's been an hour and a half.
01:31:22
Emeka
Some
01:31:22
Chino Onwuka
I know we have a lot more to talk about, but we're probably going to have to wrap it up here. We can you know leave the remaining for for for for for next week.
01:31:30
Emeka
other time, baby.
01:31:30
Chino Onwuka
It is the international. So, you know, one other big news, you know, headline, maybe we can dig into this later, you know, Edu is leaving Arsenal for other pastures, you know, we can delve into what that means.
01:31:47
Chino Onwuka
Possible replacements, I don't, you know, I don't know if anybody can miss any technical directors.
01:31:49
Emeka
Some other time. What do we know? Hire us, Kroenke.
01:31:53
Chino Onwuka
But that's a thing that we owe, brother.
01:31:54
Emeka
We available. We
01:31:58
Chino Onwuka
I will show you my CV. CV.
01:32:02
Emeka
plus the football manager's scenes. Don't worry.
01:32:04
Chino Onwuka
Yeah. But it sort of to end up the episode, game of the week, it is Arsenal involved again.
01:32:07
Emeka
Oof.
01:32:10
Chino Onwuka
Arsenal versus Chelsea. London Derby. Are we home or away?
01:32:15
Emeka
Away. Stanford Bridge.
01:32:16
Chino Onwuka
Another a league game
01:32:17
Emeka
The schedule, fam.
01:32:18
Chino Onwuka
brother
01:32:18
Chuku
Thank you.
01:32:19
Emeka
The schedule.
01:32:20
Chino Onwuka
more
01:32:20
Emeka
They don't want us to succeed.
01:32:21
Chino Onwuka
ay thoughts
01:32:23
Emeka
I'm
01:32:24
Chino Onwuka
predictions
01:32:27
Emeka
going to keep it short and sweet. 2-1 Arsenal. I know I always predict 2-1 Arsenal. This time it's coming true. 2-1 Arsenal. Ortegaard's back. The team needs to get better.
01:32:35
Chuku
I love you faith.
01:32:38
Emeka
You
01:32:44
Chuku
Chelsea.
01:32:45
Chuku
Thank you, Dalvis.
01:32:45
Chino Onwuka
oh
01:32:46
Chino Onwuka
sure
01:32:47
Chuku
Yeah.
01:32:47
Emeka
don't believe that. You don't believe that, truly,
01:32:51
Chino Onwuka
i was usually the negative one but I just, we we need to bounce back. We can't lose to Chelsea. We can't lose to Chelsea.
01:33:00
Chuku
Okay, then play play.
01:33:01
Chino Onwuka
I'm also going 2-1 Arsenal. You know, I've seen that Cole Palmer is a little bit of an injury doubt. Cole Palmer, you're a brilliant player. You know, hope you get better soon, but, you rest know, that knee up.
01:33:14
Chino Onwuka
up.
01:33:14
Emeka
but it's okay. I get your feelings out. Rest that
01:33:16
Chuku
Okay, well.
01:33:16
Chino Onwuka
You want to come back healthy. you know The butcher, he tried it. You survived. you know Give it a couple of moves. Wait until after the international break. Come back fully was slapping this is not the game.
01:33:27
Emeka
knee. All I'm going to say is the last time we played Chelsea, do you guys remember the game score?
01:33:34
Emeka
A smooth five. A smooth five.
01:33:37
Chuku
Thank you.
01:33:38
Emeka
So I'm going to take my two on.
01:33:39
Chuku
You think it's the same Arsenal team that's gonna play? Okay. I work with lack of like the
01:33:44
Chino Onwuka
They have a high line. Attack the high line. Don't be doing all this. part Play those balls, guys running behind, anticipate it, hold on to the ball, take the risk when it's there.
01:34:01
Emeka
and shaa
01:34:01
Chino Onwuka
All right, guys.
01:34:02
Chuku
well hope youre right
01:34:07
Chino Onwuka
Another good episode. You know, we're we're still brothers. We're still... so Yeah, just for the show, you know you know, just like first day, just like around the horn, we need to fake some animus, you know, for interest.
01:34:14
Emeka
Hey, hopefully the vibes will be better next episode when we we got some Inshallah.
01:34:16
Chuku
the field. Well, we'll be right.
01:34:17
Emeka
W's. That's all we look what you're doing to the boys, man.
01:34:31
Emeka
We need a W this weekend. We need a W this weekend.
01:34:35
Chino Onwuka
played his part really well today.
01:34:37
Chuku
Thank you.
01:34:37
Chino Onwuka
I played my part really well. as so i think drove so ah right with that we will see you guys next week on
01:34:45
Chino Onwuka
love of the
01:34:45
Emeka
Love of the game.
01:34:46
Chuku
Love