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All my friends are cops undercover - The Stranger (2022)
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We delve into another modern Australian film in The Stranger, a movie so quintessentially Aussie it really feels like you're living in a barren wasteland with no hope or salvation.
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Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:00
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I am the night rider. You're terrible Muriel. Talk to me. You gonna do that bugger, bugger? You mean talking the cop?
00:00:11
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Today is a brand new No, that's it. It's the vibe. G'day, fellow Aussie film lovers, and welcome to another episode of Under Southern Screens, the most undercover Australian cinema podcast.
00:00:24
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I'm Mitch. And I'm Matthew.
Lego Games Discussion
00:00:26
Speaker
That reminds me, there was a game years back on the Wii called Lego City Undercover. Oh, That was a really good game. I never played it because I didn't have a Wii U. Oh, you were one of the yeah the fortunate ones. Yeah.
00:00:39
Speaker
No, I love Lego City Undercover. That was like my game back in the day. played as Chase McCain. I was a huge Lego game guy. i actually have a friend. He is currently 100%ing every single Lego game in existence. And that's not just the ones that a movie tie-in was. But the thing is, they're so repetitive that he would go insane. is When we got to the Traveler's Tales ones, which is the most famous version, it is just the same game over and over again, but just one's Indiana Jones, one's Star Wars, one's Harry Potter, well, three of them are Harry Potter. I would go absolutely insane. I've been helping him play those ones as well. I've been there doing it with them. Mitch is complicit. I am complicit. In
Introduction to 'The Stranger' Film
00:01:17
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the insanity. But the issue is is that we've gotten up to a point where we have the Lord the Rings one to do, but he refuses to experience Lord the Rings for the first time through the Lego game. That is so fair. But he refuses to watch the movie until he's read the book. So I got to wait for this this boy to read three massive fantasy novels, then watch three massive movies, to then what play this freaking game. and And the one after this, I think, is just Lego Marvel. Yeah. that he's got to do the whole marvel thing that's wild um he's up to date with the movies anyway and then there is the like our avengers game this went on like your friend he went on too many tangents as of we i'm gonna give you another link here sneaky the person you're talking about is a stranger to me that was a good one i like that one The hilarious things that you actually have interacted with him before. Actually, I'm sorry. yeah I got you. I got you. Mitch, what are we watching this week for Under Southern Screens? Well, today I must issue another spoiler warning for 2022's The Stranger, directed by Thomas M. Wright. I think watch this film before going into it because like this is the type of movie where spoilers matter. Yeah. This is one where the unfolding of what occurs is pretty important. Which is not to say that there's no rewatchability to it, but I think on a first go, it's good to not know where things go. Yeah. Yeah. Unless you're familiar with the real murder this is based off of, in which case you'll be pretty aware of how this goes. we have to talk about that, but anyway. I have done research. I have done research. I've looked into it. Speaking of research, get into that little introduction of yours that you've prepared,
Film's Real-Life Inspiration and Controversy
00:02:50
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Michi. Well, this is based on the nonfiction book The Sting, the undercover operation that caught Daniel McComb's killer by Kate Kiriakou, and is inspired by the investigation into that very murder. Right. We follow Joel Edgerton's character, Mark Frame, a police officer who goes undercover and befriends Henry Teague, who is played by Sean Harris, in the hopes of obtaining a confession for the abduction and murder of a young boy that occurred eight years prior in 2002.
00:03:16
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two Henry is slowly brought into a criminal organization that is entirely made up of undercover cops. This is actually a real tactic that the police use. It's called a Mr. Big Police operation. Okay, right. And in all honesty, it sparked the exact same anxiety I got when watching Bansies of Inner Sharon, which was based around all my friends hating me and them all just waiting for the right moment to reveal being nice to me was all part of a large bit they were playing.
00:03:37
Speaker
That's sadistic. Yeah. That's awful. Yeah. You don't get that? Oh, well, not... sit Okay, we're going into trauma. Let's not do this. Henry and Mark grow closer and closer till eventually they manage to get Henry to confess to the crime and he is arrested. However, the psychological damage done to Mark appears to be pretty permanent. The movie premiered at Cairns on 18th of May, 2022, and had a limited theatrical Australian release on the 6th of October before streaming worldwide on the 19th through Netflix. It received positive reviews. However, the parents of Daniel McCorm, the young boy whose death inspired the film, demanded that the filmmakers stop using his name to market the movie and were upset that they continued to do so. pretty justified i would say it's very dharma the fact that the victims families went please don't make another dharma tv show and they went yeah i beg your pardon in i'm sorry i can't hear you over costing ever it reminds me of this very very niche auntie donna sketch where it's like riffing those awful channel 7 drama series where it's like oh yeah based on a far too real actual mystery without the express permission of the family. I know exactly the bit you're talking about. Yeah, I mean, like, the movie doesn't remind me of that, but just, like, the whole fact, because I didn't know this was based on a real-life tragedy, you know, like, until I finished the movie and looked it up online, and honestly, it did kind of sour my experience to hear that it is...
Production and Cinematic Style
00:05:01
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pretty verbatim to like the real story from what i've read which be fair i didn't do a huge deep dive i just kind of familiarized myself with vague details the difference is that it happened in 2003 instead 2002 yeah like in the movie and they changed some names around and i think there might have been a second person who was slightly involved as well Yeah, right. Oh, and also it all happened in Queensland, whereas this is set in Western Australia. Yeah, okay. I don't know where what did the- Did the murder happen in Queensland, though, in the movie? I'm not think it's in Victoria, because doesn't don't they go back to Victoria? They bloody globetrod in this movie. They go all over the country. They Australia-trod, for sure. They Australia-trod. But it's all just desert. Makes shooting a video. Very easy. Which is, to be fair, in our country. Yeah, yeah. can't I can't knock it. can't knock it. it is very samey desert in a lot of this country. Being released so close to the dry as well. Maybe it set like the tone was of set. When did the come out? Yeah. 2020. like, around that period. I think they were shooting around the same time. Oh, well this would have um come up against COVID. Yeah, this was a COVID movie. Yeah, this was a COVID movie. And can't tell. You honestly cannot tell. tell it's not like when you watch um the third spider-man movie and you know yeah everyone was just shooting in a cupboard and it was five feet apart from each other hey man it kept the vfx team hard at work the vfx team that was worked to death and yeah was thrown under the bus for making the movie look garbage even though they weren't given enough money or enough time to make those effects look good cats 2019 anyway
00:06:28
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Cats 2019? Why do have to bring up Cats 2019? Anyway, this is a very secular movie. It's a very sort of small scale human narrative and I think the barren atmosphere, landscapes and also the minimalist cast really does suit this type of insular microscopic character study of this character. It's almost like only four people in this movie that i would consider like in quotation mark important. Like, you know Not important. That's the incorrect word because everyone in this actually plays an important role. But yeah there's Joel Edgerton, famous for being Uncle Owen. That's it. Yes, yes. There's Sean Harris. He was in two of the nine or eight Mission Impossible movies. What character was he again? He's Solomon something. He's the bad guy in Five and Six.
00:07:13
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Sure. Okay. Yeah. Because you see his face and he's like Jim Broadbent or someone. Like you'd like you'd see his face and it's like- know you yeah but i don't by the way sean harris british actor pretty good australian accent yeah well i wouldn't have known if he wasn't australian and to be fair he is quite little mumbly little guy but like he mumbles like an australian does yeah yeah it's true yeah he could have easily mumbled how a british person does aka tom har he reminds me of the type of person that would come up to you like five pints deep at a pub we talk a lot about People just coming up to you randomly in certain places in Australia. the Australian mate. It's the Australian way. It's very Aussie. And yeah, you're absolutely right. This guy is the kind of guy who would drink a little too much and feel like it's time to get friendly with the younger people at the bar. And that's how he he sort of stumbles into this life,
Themes and Storytelling Techniques
00:07:59
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doesn't he? This sting. It's all planned, obviously, because they're... Yeah. But I knew Joel O'Chartan was a cop because the synopsis tells you that. But there's enough time in the film where you actually don't know that. You don't know that everyone involved is a cop. And there's also a little like, have Joel Edgerton put himself into a crime syndicate to then get this guy? Well, that's it. Yeah. But then it turns out they're all cops too. That was the big surprise for me because I was constantly worrying for Joel Edgerton's well-being. Obviously, you toe the line between trying to bust this guy and then breaking your own cover. And to find out that everyone was in on it, that was a fantastic twist. It's a pretty good reveal. And then um there's Jada Alberts, who plays Senior Constable Kate Rylet. She's running around kind of doing a bunch of stuff to the side. Her stuff kind of almost fades away a little bit until it comes back at the Yeah, it's a shame. Yeah, yeah. feel like she could have been utilized a bit more. And then there's John. Alan Dukes plays John. And he's the fake head of this crime organization. yeah Well, he's piled like the main trick to get Sean Harris to admit that he killed this kid. exactly This movie is pretty interesting in the fact that, like a lot of Australian films, it's quite bleak. Oh, 100%. But this one manages to be bleak without actually showing anything
00:09:15
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bleak the way this film shows tension and heavily adult subject matter but not like explicitly like you know what i mean yeah beautifully done in a way where like i could show my mom this movie and she would be like yeah into it it's about a child abduction right and murder well yeah and yeah eventual murder we find out as funny as it is to say sometimes um we don't need to see that in like a little little movie. I'm okay with not seeing a child murder in general. um Yeah. Episode one, me would be so annoyed. Oh, true. Yeah. Negative one on the child murder counter. We actually didn't see it um off screen. Doesn't count. So what's interesting about this is it's bleak without being too bleak. There's no moment of violence whatsoever.
00:09:57
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There's no moment of seeing a dead body. Like there's exactly so much implication that there is a dead body somewhere, especially with the ending where it's the bunch of people searching that mud pit. And then one of them just puts their hand up and you go, I know what that person has found, but you don't see it. You don't see any of it. That motif happens throughout the whole movie. Like for example, when they're going through the records of um the pokies, like, like logging the pokie loyalty cards and stuff. it's a really small thing but so they turn on the computer and we focus on a blinking light it's insinuating that it's searching for this person's loyalty card and then the blinking light just turns to a solid red light we cut back to sean harris doing his thing or whatever yeah and
00:10:39
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From that, we immediately know so much like about the the murder. like They got him. They got him. The alibi is broken. It's just such a major development. And it's not only done without any dialogue, but it's done in a visual motif. That is filmmaking masterclass, in my opinion. It's fantastic. It's so showdown. tell and yet what it doesn't show and is still telling you is very impressive it's good filmmaking you know what i mean it's a good movie it's a good movie i will say however obviously it's a very dark heavy film i wish there were more elements of levity because the the moments where there are lighter moments And there are only like two or three in the whole movie. like I'm going to be real, I can't even actually think of any of them. Elements of Joel Edgerton with his kid as well. Like they're really sort of sweet human moments. And in a story where it is so sort of clinical and we're getting straight to the point of this mystery, it disconnected with me a little bit.
00:11:39
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that's all i will say it is a bit of bleakness overload at certain i will say this and this is not a dig at the movie it's not entertaining to watch it feels like you're reading a case study or you're reading a police report in my opinion it's very clinical in the way it represents everything and it's not a bad thing i think that's the movie they set out to make they did an excellent job it's just it is kind an exhausting watch though you got to be switched on for you gotta be watching it no phones in your hand no tiktok subway surfers feed for you you can't be subway surfing for that no i pre-gamed all my subway surfer footage um just raw that was like your pre-show you're just like getting psyched for one hour of subway surfer footage A lot of it is just this slow build in this relationship between Joel Edgerton and Sean Harris. Yeah, yeah. In a good way. They just act at each other. It's two character archetypes and then you sort of like smack them together for two hours. That's what I think it is. If Joel Edgerton fails, mean, no one else is going to die. It's not like there's another hostage or something. There's... Oh my God. I didn't actually even think of that. Yeah. This guy will get away, but he already did the crime. We're just trying to get him to pay for it. That's sneaky. There's like that moment where he goes, Sean Harris, his character does go missing and they we can't put out an APB because would mess with the undercover operation. Yeah. Like you're going to go solo. You're going to have to go find him. And I'm like, what's an issue here? It's like, he's killed a kid before. Who's to say you won't do it again. But there's no guaranteed stakes in the film per se. As you're explaining this, I'm thinking about how the movie is played with my emotions. Yeah. The movie has manipulated me because I was genuinely feeling so much tension for it. And now I didn't realize until you just mentioned it, all those stakes just weren't there at all. That's sinister. I think a partial amount of stakes does come from how if he did what he did, and the movie is very much just like, he did do it. He did it, yeah. There's just not enough evidence to convict him. Damn, that's actually thrown me for a loop. Film class...
00:13:42
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film yeah I went to film class. I've been bamboozled, brother. On the performances, i thought Joel Edgerton was probably the best performance in the film. I don't know. I would have liked to see Sean Harris's inner psyche more a little bit, especially as we see him getting messed with.
00:13:58
Speaker
Do you know what mean? Like like yeah his whole perception of what is real at the moment is getting absolutely bamboozled. And we don't actually see him really react to it after he's been caught. He just sees incomplete denial once he gets booked or whatever. It's like, I didn't do it or whatever. I see what you're saying. There's no retribution, but maybe that wasn't the point. maybe i think that's the thing, right? It's like, yeah yeah. Because in real life, the guy who actually did kill Daniel Morcom, he pleaded not guilty to the very end. Okay. Yeah, right. And refused to give evidence. and It was one of those appeal, appeal, appeal type things. Yeah, it was very much just like, to the very end, denied it
Legal Complexities and Emotional Impact
00:14:37
Speaker
as far as I'm aware. And is he in jail, like, at the moment? I think so. he didn't get hit with just murder. He got hit with, like, interfering with a corpse, indecent treatment of a child under 16, because the kid was 13, which is horrendous, by the way. This definite tonal shift to yeah two weeks ago when we were talking about a funny Scooby-Doo movie. Oh, Scooby-Doo in the Strictly Ballroom.
00:14:56
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There was an appeal to get him out earlier. That didn't go well. Because his legal team argued that the confession elicited through an undercover sting by police was inadmissible as evidence at a trial. They talked about that. Yeah, i was wondering how much a Mr. Big operation, how much of that is entrapment. Yeah, they bring that up in the film. Also, they do that little hater police officer guy. yeah. That's little stinker. He kind of just like appears for 10 seconds.
00:15:18
Speaker
It's like, why are we still on this? And then he disappears for the rest of the room. And then like moves on. So then the other higher up was like, oh actually, wait, hold it second. Yeah. He like does an Udo reverse card. He's just like, I get the hierarchy Trump card and it's, it's, yeah, it's out. So that was, that was a weird moment. Just go back there.
00:15:35
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The former Queensland attorney general was trying to have the real dude's sentence increased and that was also dismissed. So it looks like he's still in jail because he was sentenced to 20 years with the possibility of parole on the 14th of March, 2014. It's like the guy that murdered John Lennon. He's been like denied parole 13 times. He keeps applying. I mean, maybe one day, dude. Maybe one day. No, no. He will never be let out ever. No, he killed John Lennon. Anyway. Back to the movie. The, not pseudo-sexual, but actual sexual like tension between Joel Edgerton and Sean Harris. That's true. There was a homoerotic undertone, which is kind of twisted. It's odd. It's not overt. It's like subtextual reading. Yeah. It could be anything. Like it could be examining the concept of Aussie mateship, especially like with, you know, shared trauma in that sense. yeah if we're seeing this relationship grow and bond then we cut to joel edgerton hanging out with his kid and stuff and i think that's one of the more interesting elements of the film is showing how the case impacts his home life he becomes more and more erratic and anxious about his son's yeah safety which makes sense especially when he gets that nightmare where um sean harris screams at him the dark lakes are in my eyes or something i was like damn which one of the the most intense part of the whole film. was freaked out. It was really freaky. need little teddy bear to comfort me. I was really scared. I needed a little cuddle. It's such a hard movie to talk about because it is so straight-laced. When we were saying before that this is a good movie to experience, it's kind of because there's no other way to experience this. There's certain movies where you can just have someone kind of explain the plot to you. And you'll not get the same experience, but you'll get why the movie was so good because the plot was so good or the plot was so bad. So on and so forth. This is a movie where explaining the plot to you does nothing to represent the movie's actual strengths because the dread, which is also not a sell. I feel like saying you're going to feel dread watching this. But it's so good. It's so juicy. But it's good. If you like feeling things and you like movies that will make you feel bad. And you want good character drama. And you want probably the best made film that we've watched so far. I'm not saying it's the best film. I see what saying. I'm saying it's the most well-made film. I think the one for me that I thought was really well-made was True History of the Kelly game. And it reminds me of that film as well. And definitely the vibe
Australian Cinematic Style and Themes
00:18:01
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of how this was made. It's vibe, yeah. Apparently we have a type of cinematography that they're now starting to recognise in our more modern films. I guess so, yeah. You can kind go like, that's an Australian film. I can tell how they shot that. And I mean, this film does hearken back as well to some old Ausploitation vibes as well, because everyone's really sort of weird and wacky. They reference, and don't know if this was intentional, but they reference an old Ausploitation movie called Wake and Fright. Which I've actually heard about. Yeah, I've heard about this one. It's a wild movie, but they reference it in that moment when they're like investigating the pub and they like stop for the Anzac anthem. That's right. They stop for the Anzac Day thing. That was such a weird moment. Yeah, that's a reference to Wake and Fright. Is that what it is? Yeah, yeah. At least that's how I read it. I mean, it could be. Because to me, I was watching that and went, that is such an interesting and odd, because definitely dates when they're going there, because only happens on one day a year. And we know it's 2010 as well. So we know what day and year this occurred. And even the time, always the exact same time. It's just such a curious thing to include. In that moment, we are remembering the sacrifice of the fallen soldiers of World War I for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps. Yeah.
00:19:09
Speaker
Yeah, Lest We Forget. Lest We Forget. It's interesting that this movie that is so, like, death is this movie's bread and butter. um Yeah. And it's interesting that it would include this moment where they stop to honor. Like an honorable kind of death, you know? Dying in war is not honorable, but it has the idea that it is. Like, there's the four things that the rich sell to the poor that is honorable to go die in war. Which it is not, just for the record. Which it is not. It is just you dying for a rich person. Not to say that you if anyone's serving in the military, you're not doing something great. I am not making a comment on that. I'm just saying there's no honorable way to die. Yes. um
00:19:46
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Basically. Straight facts. I can't believe I just said straight facts to something so existential. Oh my God. like I got to keep that in, but damn, I wish I didn't say that.
00:19:58
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Anyway. I was just going to move on, but you did make a, you have now made a bigger deal about it. Well, this is going to be the social post for this week. yeah Yeah, just like go real- we're not doing this. But point is, the the juxtaposition between these honourable in quotation mark deaths and the just exceedingly tragic and pointless death. Pointless, tragic, downright barbaric killing of this just- I don't know if the kid in the movie is 13, but the base of a 13 year old's murder yeah who was just going to the shops to get a haircut and a Christmas present. senseless that is what happened to daniel morcombe and that is what happens to the child in this movie as well it is just such an interesting juxtaposition and it is so morbid yeah yeah and very very exploitation just to bring it back to that original point i am not ultra familiar with ausp exploitation as a genre but i'm sure as like we watch we will definitely be watching something for this brother we'll get there we might even have months dedicated to it who's to say oh little teaser there for our little audience. Hello. Hilariously enough, our first dedicated month is not Ausploitation, but... But you guys are going to love it anyway. We've got big plans, big plans. Big things coming, guys. But yeah, I 100% agree. Like, the Australian-ness of this film is so apparent. But also, like, that's another great thing about this is it's a story that, well, like, it feels like the Australian-ness of it isn't in your face. you know I mean? It's almost just the fact that they shot it in Australia is what makes it Australian. It's a seamless Australian film, is I really think it in some ways makes it even stronger. you know There's other movies we've watched that the Australianism has been completely inbuilt into the identity of the film. And this is not a bad thing either. Talking about they're a weird mob. Talking about they're a weird mob, which is a bad movie. But i'm talking about also like Strictly Ballroom is an exceedingly Australian. like you i don't You can't make Strictly Ballroom the same way anywhere else. Yeah, I was thinking that as well. I'm talking also like true history and story of the Kelly game.
00:21:53
Speaker
Yeah, inherently Australian. Inherently Australian, about an Australian icon in quotation mark. This movie though, the fact that set in the desert the way it is, it could be like a true detective type of situation where it's just in America somewhere, but it's not. it's just it It happens to just be in Australia instead. And that's nice. That's just a nice sort of like... It's nice to know you can make movies that are just movies that are in Australia instead of being Australian movies. You know what i mean? Exactly. And it still has the nods. It still has like what you need, but it's just seamless and it's it's legitimate filmmaking. I keep going back to this idea of like this is great filmmaking. It's legitimate. It's well-crafted.
00:22:34
Speaker
Good on you, Thomas M. Wright. It's competent and then more so. Yeah. I feel like saying something's competently made is a bit... It sounds dismissive, but don't actually think it is. someone said my film was competently made, I'd find that a really high honour, to be honest with I mean, that's because we're amateurs. That's...
00:22:53
Speaker
damn i yeah but not i don't say it in a bad way but it's just we're still learning whereas like yeah you know in this situation if if i was to say movies competently made though that's it could also almost be concerns me being like yeah i mean like it's fine yeah but in this case it's like everything slots into place exactly the way it's meant to the movie works the way a movie should where just like the sum of the whole is greater than the parts because all the parts are working together really well to make a brilliant sum Well said. Well said, Mitch. I was going down a huge, like insanely weird, esoteric way to say that. And I realized that there's actually just a normal way to say that that's been invented for years. But you know what?
00:23:33
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I got it. understood you get it. You understand. believe in you, Mitch. Like it's a heavier movie than some of the other movies we talked about especially last week like damn but yeah it's it's a great one it's not amazing for me i think it's not at the level like because i don't know i i like a bit of lightness in my cinema but that's just that's just up to personal preference i can't deny this is an incredibly well-made film that yeah that ticks a lot of the boxes for what i would consider an australian film great absolutely i i know that i rated it pretty high when i did rate it There's a part of me that feels like I did that just because I recognize how well it's made. Game knows game. I don't think I actually enjoyed the movie as high as I rated it, if that makes sense. It's like you're you someone looking at a piece of art and nodding. Yeah. I nodded at this movie. um I nodded at this movie visibly. But there's a level of like, I don't even think this movie is designed to be enjoyed.
00:24:28
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It doesn't want to be
Cultural Symbols and Conclusion
00:24:30
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enjoyed. It wants to make you uncomfortable and it wants to make you think about kind of like the mundane evil in society. Because that's yeah pretty much what the movie is about is is this guy, he seems pretty normal until you get to know him and then he realized there's just something lurking underneath him and then you find out he also killed a child. Yeah. And also like beat up a bunch of other people as well. And he's like heavily in denial for it. Oh, yeah. He just does. Psychologically in denial. He's blocked it from his memory. Yeah. It's something. crazy.
00:24:59
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It's something. It's crazy. But Mitch, what is the most Australian thing about The Stranger 2022 Netflix movie? I think the most Australian thing about The Stranger is having your lie seen through because of someone's love of the pokies. Yeah.
00:25:15
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ah Yes. Get Truman showed because of the pokies. Oh, getting got by the pokes, dude. it there because It's in every pub, right It is indeed in every pub. It's everywhere.
00:25:28
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You can't escape from it. It will come get you. General courtesy and the pokies. What a great combo. What a great combination. Love to see Australianism showing so well. That's why we do this podcast week to week. It is indeed why we're here Matthew, ask me where they can find us. Hey, Mitch.
00:25:50
Speaker
Yeah. That's a very smooth segue, mate. Where where can we where can our beautiful listeners find more of us? threads, Instagram, and TikTok. And TikTok. And TikTok at undersouthernscreenspod at gmail.com. What is going on here?
00:26:07
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We also have the email at undersouthernscreenspod at gmail.com. Next week, we are having a guest on the pod. We are. Who it is, you'll just have to find out. But we we can tell you what we're watching, though. Yes. Which really exciting. We are watching... Peter Weir's very first film, The Cars That Ate Paris. What more could you want, mate? That's awesome.
00:26:33
Speaker
I'm here for it. We've been having mic problems on this stream, but... Matthew's is dying and it so I'm trying to cover it. We're going to say goodbye. Matthew, do you want to see if your mic will let us say our little toodledoo? Toodledoo. See you next week, beautiful people.
00:26:48
Speaker
Keep an eye on them southern screens. Thanks for listening to another episode of Under Southern Screens. We'll be back next week to talk more films down under. We just want to attribute that our opening title is Heavy Duty by Zoo and our closing title is Heavy Weight by Fell Creek. Thanks so much for listening and Mitch and I will see you in the next episode.
00:27:08
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See you next time.
00:27:11
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Under Southern Screens would like to acknowledge the stolen lands on which this podcast is recorded and produced and pay tribute to the Wurundjeri and Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation and Kamaragal people of the Eora Nation.
00:27:24
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Sovereignty was never ceded and we pay respect to all Indigenous Elders past, present and emerging. Always was, always will be Aboriginal land.