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10 Canoe Episode - Ten Canoes (2006)

S1 E10 · Under Southern Screens
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Matthew and Mitch take it way back with a tale within a tale within a tale. It's not nearly as confusing as it sounds it's just hard to explain without being confusing.

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Transcript

Introduction & Hosts' Banter

00:00:00
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I am the night rider. You're terrible Muriel. Talk to me. You gonna do that, Pugger Pugger? You mean talking to the cop?
00:00:11
Speaker
Today is a brand new No, that's it. It's the vibe. G'day, fellow Aussie film lovers, and welcome to another episode of Under Southern Screens, the most 10 out of 10 Australian cinema podcast. I'm Decimal Mitch. I'm Fraction Matthew. I'm 10. Decimal because it's 10. Yeah, we're capable. You know what? One out of 10, Matt. Yeah, that's... Yeah. Are we rating each other now? Is that what I was saying? Oh, my gosh. gosh. Remember when in high school you used to do TBH and rates on your story? All right. You say, remember when you, I never did that. Okay. I never did that.
00:00:47
Speaker
It must have been a ah my high school thing. No, no, no. My high school did it too. i was just not as self-absorbed. That shows character growth, Mitchell. No, i i still am quite an anxious person when it comes to social media. I'm always kind of thinking, oh, no one wants to see what I'm posting, dude. Everyone hates me whenever I post.
00:01:07
Speaker
They're like, why is this guy on my feed, man? I'm always thinking that kind of stuff. Who

Behind the Scenes Insights

00:01:11
Speaker
cares? That's the thing, right, is i don't care a lot about what people post, but that doesn't mean they should care that I don't care. but unfortunately, I do care that people don't care. Needless to say, me being in charge of our social media is quite an anxiety-inducing experience.
00:01:27
Speaker
Mate, everyone's got to learn sometime. It's a young man's game. You've got to build up the skills for the incoming AI takeover, employment takeover. I live in a so social media world. If I ever want to get anywhere with my creations, I need to be able to promote myself. So this is good learning experiences. And I think maybe this week on our Instagram, we should do a TBH and rate. Yeah.
00:01:50
Speaker
but I think that's on brand on our stories. Yeah, we'll just rate our followers, TBA Joe followers, that some of which we do not know and we haven't met. a little peek behind the curtains, dear listeners. We record these like way in advance of actually releasing them. So what will happen is I'll have to recall this in four weeks that we're going to do this. I'll remember, mate. Don't worry. When it comes to judging people on the social media platform, I'll remember, mate. Don't stress. Anyway, you didn't give me a rating anyway. I said one out ten for you. You're straight ten, Mitch. That's all I'll say. don't. Because now I feel bad. If you want a real answer, someone said I was like a six out of ten what's in high school. That's better than five That's great. That's awesome. You're better than a six. You're better than six. I've taken that to heart and I've ah attempted to grow myself in the meantime. Well, If you've grown, you've grown to a lovely young boy. And if you haven't grown, you're always a lovely young boy.
00:02:42
Speaker
Let's move on. Cool. Too sincere. Too sincere. and Not funny. Not

Podcast Milestone Reflections

00:02:46
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funny. our 10th episode. Can you believe that? Welcome everyone to the 10th episode. Matthew, I must ask you, did you think we'd get this far? Well, look, okay. Here's the gamble, right? Because you can either commit to a podcast or you can say that you're going to do this for a very, very long time and then dip after three episodes. Well, we've done neither so far. Well, that's it. So I guess the jury is still out. But honestly, yeah, I've loved doing this so far.
00:03:13
Speaker
I'm really happy that we've talked about such a variety of different projects and different eras of Australian film. feel like we've A, managed to stick to our brief and B, it turns out our brief wasn't horrible. It looks like there's just like a little bit of inspiration in this. We've actually done a decent job with this project. And I've really enjoyed this too. We're to cut this again because this is too sincere and not This is too self-aggrandizing. We're Australians. We're supposed to hate everything we make. I do. mean, I'm going to hate it when I listen back to it. But right now, I'm really appreciative.

Inclusion of First Nations Stories

00:03:47
Speaker
But one thing I think we've maybe missed is we've actually, and we've discussed this and we make sure to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land each and every episode. As you should. As you should. But we actually haven't discussed any First Nations stories on this podcast. Yeah, and the thing is there are hundreds, I would say, of great Indigenous Australian films spanning all over the years, some that are even culture and film defining. So we're not talking about it this week, but I'll let you in a little secret. The first ever Australian film that was shot in colour was technically an Indigenous film. So that's like a really sort of interesting thing. Do you know what movie it was? It was called Jeddah.
00:04:33
Speaker
It's really racist. You know what? I actually think I've heard about this one. Yeah, we'll get there. Interesting effort. that not the planet in Rogue One that they test the Death Star on? Yeah, Gareth Edwards was going through the Uber of Australian film and was like, that. That's the word. We should kill Forrest Whitaker on that planet. Spoilers for a 10-year-old movie. We're going to have to put that in the spoilers. warning the top of the episode yeah we're gonna have to because well spoilers for 10 canoes which is the movie are discussing we're watching that this week i don't know why i went on a tangent about jedda that was kind of weird it's important yeah it is it's all it all flows around i mean like and we'll probably cover it later we definitely will i mean the films of warwick thornton mystery road jedda rabbit proof fence and 10 canoes which is the movie that we're watching today i've seen two of those oh yeah nice and not the two you think Guess which ones he's seen. actually didn't watch 10 Canoes. actually did watch 10 Canoes, guys. Yeah, 10 Canoes. I had never heard of this film before, but this is a Mitch's dad recommendation. Oh, did I tell you this? Because I about say, yeah, my dad recommended this. I then looked on Letterboxd and Alexei Toliopoulos, who I follow on Letterboxd, praise be his name. Legend in the game. Please come on our pod. I met you at the epic premiere and I told you about the pod before it happened. He liked our name, didn't he? Yeah, he said that's a cool name. Yeah, my dad said the same thing. I think he didn't hear it right. He thought I was saying Under Southern Skies, which is a play on words. He's a cool guy. He seems like the kind of guy who would lie about liking a name even if he didn't like it. And he probably just wanted me to get the hell away from him. Please leave me alone, sir.
00:06:10
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So my dad recommended

Choosing & Discussing '10 Canoes'

00:06:12
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it. I had two people, two mutuals on Letterboxd who'd watch this. Neither of them were us. It was a friend of mine who watches a lot of Australian film as well. And also, he's Hollyopolis. And we were ramping up to do the 10th episode. And I kind of clicked to my head like, 10 canoes, 10 episodes. 10 canoe episodes. A little light bulb moment. I'm a genius. And so then I stole your chance to pick a film.
00:06:35
Speaker
And said we should do this instead. You served it. Yeah, I did. i did. But you know what? I'm okay with that because, yeah, I thought this was a fun watch. This is interesting, isn't it? Yeah. Enlightening. And I'm really excited to have a little deep dive into it today. But just before we do, like, i just want to say, God, I love it when a dad recommends a movie. Oh, yeah. I don't know how like filmically inclined your dad is, but like, I know my dad isn't really in on in and on the game, but when he'll come around and be like, Hey, Matthew, you know what movie you'd like? And it's just like the most out of pocket pick. Can you give us some examples? My dad is a fan. like His favorite movie of all time is this like teen sex comedy called Whoopi Boys. I've never heard of it. but He loves it so much so that kept the VHS tape from his childhood so for that movie. That's awesome. watches footy and that's the extent of his media. um yeah And he watches the Insiders as well, which to be fair. Oh, yeah. So he's a man of culture as well. But I just love ah ah when your dad, who like means so well, like comes up and pitches a movie to you. It's so good.
00:07:37
Speaker
My dad's actually pretty locked in on film. Damn, we should get him on the pod. Trust me, I've asked. Actually, we'll tell you the episode I've asked him to get on and he said he'd be happy to. I don't want to spoil it for others, so I'm not going to say we on the recording. You'll find out when he's on the podcast, guys. But yeah, that's crazy. He knows a lot about...
00:07:52
Speaker
Australian film he's actually way more knowledgeable I knew he knew stuff but since I started this podcast he's just opened up about how much he knows like Jesus you that's all I mean I knew you were clever didn't know you were clever in this area it's so cool is you're able to connect with him about that as well yeah yeah should we talk about 10 canoes now Mitch let's talk about 10 canoes let's talk about the film we're actually meant be here for uh Matthew I believe you have an introduction for us do I do I do huarre let's jump right in let's get in on on it Our film this week for under southern screens is the 2006 docudrama 10 Canoes. It's the first film we've looked at that wholly focuses on pre-colonial indigenous culture. And it's a great introductory point into the spirituality and connection to land of the Aboriginal people that you won't find in other Australian films from 2006, like Happy Feet and Superman Returns. Is it Australian film? It was. It was shot in Sydney. Oh, we should watch that. We should.
00:08:44
Speaker
It was directed by the duo of Peter Jigga and Rolf Dahier, a Dutch-Australian director who, while not Indigenous, has created several influential works surrounding Aboriginal culture, such as 2002's The Tracker, and Ten Canoes is no different. The film, led by iconic Indigenous actor David Goldpilil as the storyteller and narrator, follows a group of hunters in Arnhem Land. The film is poised as an observational docudrama and framed as a story within a story within a story.
00:09:12
Speaker
We follow Gulpilil's character D'Indy's journey of growth as a youth in a tribe that builds canoes to hunt. In the pursuit of becoming a leader on his own, he is told a traditional story the tribe has passed down that sees the conflicts with rival groups the tribe faced, which eventually results in the kidnapping of then lead warrior D'Ridjimuril's second wife as an ever escalating conflict bruise. This is an interesting film as it is argued to be the first film ever shot in Indigenous Australian languages, of which there are many indigenous languages, so it's a pretty impressive logistical feat all around. The film also interchanges between full colour and black and white cinematography regularly to represent the passing of time and the different stories, and of course, Ten Canoes was shot in the Northern Territory, meaning the catering budget for packs of Mount Franklin water bottles was highly astronomical.
00:10:00
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On a budget of $2.2 million, the film stood as one of the highest grossing Australian films of the year, making just over $3 million, which is a fantastic response for an Indigenous Australian film, Stop Hating, This Isn't Avatar The Way of Water. 10 Canoes also spend an educational multimedia project called 12 Canoes, focusing on spreading awareness on Yolongu culture, which I think is really nice. And that's that. Yeah. This is a cool movie. This is fun. I like a lot of things about this movie.

Themes & Narrative Style of '10 Canoes'

00:10:26
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One of the things I like the most about this movie, though, is the vibe of how the story is told. So you touched on that it's a story within a story within a story, which is not shied away on in any description I've ever seen of the film. Whenever you look it up or something, it'll say something along those lines generally. It is. the core conceit it's the premise of the film we could say think what's really great though is the top level is as you mentioned the storyteller which who leads most of the movie though you never see them and i think what's really great about that is it really has the vibe that you've sat down with this gentleman who's then telling you this story takes you on a journey yeah you're you kind of feel like you're sitting down at a fire and he's walking you through this multi-layered story that to be fair like there are moments where if he had only been talking about it and i was just listening be like what i think i need to see like what the are you talking about but in general It's great and I like the vibe of the film. I'm not an expert on First Nations anything, but it feels very like that. The thing we need to bring up initially is that we're coming at this film as two... Exceedingly white boys. Extremely depressingly white people. I sunburn in my fridge and it's open. Yeah. I listened to George Harrison. Whoa! So if you're looking for a deeper Indigenous connection to this film, I'd highly recommend watching some of the making-ofs on YouTube for this film. I guess that's the benefit of having sort of a lower-scale release for this film is that it's all of the making-ofs and special features and the context behind this film is available to read and watch online. We're coming at this from a perspective of We've watched 10 Australian films so far and we're talking about the things we liked in it. And I think one of the things I do like, like you said, Mitch, is that it does feel like a really great entry point into a subsective Indigenous culture that's not as highly touched on as sort of the colonialism aspect, as the colonisation aspect, which, granted, is a story that needs to be told. It's really enlightening to hear firsthand the day-to-day lives of Indigenous tribes in Arnhem Land, in my I think you're exactly right. And in episode two of this podcast, when we did the true history of the Kelly gang, I mentioned that it's interesting that Ned Kelly keeps coming up because he's a part of our history that we don't have to engage with the genocide that runs through a lot of what our history is. In saying that, I kind of neglected how much history Australia had before white colonists arrived in this country. And I want to make an amendment to that because- little asterisk. I should have mentioned that that's only in the context of white history. There is a massive amount of Australian history before even Australia was even considered like Australia. Before it was even known by the rest of the world. There's hundreds of different languages. There's so much culture. There's It's so much history. The way the story is presented in this is this the storyteller says this is a story that happened so long ago. And there are even moments in where he's like, look what happened. don't actually know. The story is kind of lost in history a little bit. Exactly. The point is, is that this is the moral I'm telling you through this story. Which is still relevant. It's a beautiful story, I reckon. And it's told really well. It has recognizable characters who I'm not going to even attempt any of their names, Matt. It was an endeavor of yours to even try in that intro. And I am proud of you. I'm glad I wasn't you. sorry if I got all of them wrong. And I take ownership of that. I think this is a really interesting film. I think it quite a slow film. It's one that you've really got to concentrate on and there were moments when I got lost, especially in the sort of the multi-textual story with the story portion because the themes are so similar between the stories and the characters are so similar in the way they're framed. Two characters are pretty much exactly the same. And that's the point as well. Like they're meant to be mirrors of each other. lost me a little bit. But what I really love about this film is that it's sort of framed like a hangout movie. you know what I mean? It feels like a Linklater type of situation. The lads are hanging out and just telling each other stories. They're going hunting for geese. Yeah, they're trying to pick up chicks. You know, it's just... all like you get enveloped into the vibe of the gang which i think is such a unique framing point from here but one that allows you to connect really strongly with the characters i think i feel like when i talk to anyone about foreign language films a lot of people are like oh i i have just a hard time getting invested because it's like the barrier of text you know i have to read vomit Exactly. And this movie, the only part in English is the storyteller's narration. Every other Indigenous person speaks the language that they would have been speaking. Which I think is awesome. It's pretty cool. It is pretty cool. And I'm glad it's there. It really cements the legitimacy of this film and its style of storytelling that it's going for.
00:15:17
Speaker
but i just think the fact that they managed to make these really relatable characters who aren't speaking in your language um unless of course you are from one of these tribes that they come from it's impressive movie making it's impressive of character creation like there there are characters you know i'll watch a lot of movies i'll be like i couldn't really tell you a trait that when any character had but in this movie i can go one of the wives was jealous and she didn't like it when her husband hung out with other dudes one of the dudes He loved Honey so much. la he's so He's so lazy and he loves Honey. He's like Winnie the Pooh, but a dude. I loved him, man. That was probably the like one of the best characters. He gave me life. He's constantly asking for Honey. I know. And the way they introduced him, he's like, he has a big round belly. And it's like, oh my God, yes, he's me for real, for real. And that's what I love. That's another thing love about this film, actually, is that it does have these bits of comedy with that you're like, oh, this, you know, it's it' it is comedy. It's funny. Yeah, there's funny moments. love the moments when like the young David Gopalil character is trying to court the young wife and every time he just constantly gets blocked by something. It's very teen John Hughes comedy. I think it's funny as. And then at the very end, it's like, oh, be careful what you wish for. Yeah, it's very monkey's paw type sitch. Yeah, when he gets all the ladies. But it's too much to handle.
00:16:33
Speaker
He's like, oh, too many women. Yeah, I get that a lot. Yeah, yeah also me for real, for Yeah. such a lot i think one

Film's Visual and Cultural Elements

00:16:40
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of my favorite moments of comedy is when he's just like standing behind some gum tree leaves and he he thinks he's slick but the first wife finds him and she's like go away and he just stands up like maybe if i don't move she won't notice me but she's like shouting correctly it reminds me of those memes where it's like yo don't look now but i think that girl's checking you out and then they move the camera and the guy's just like a different hunched over or staring directly at them maybe two centimeters away from them yeah it's very i wonder if this film was released in like 2026 it would have a social media marketing campaign where they would take advantage of of ongoing instagram and tiktok trend much like us much like how we do. I don't know, maybe. I think a lot of films, just in general, kind of have to do that just to stay in the zeitgeist, to be relevant. It's being relevant and hip with the Gen Z kids. Yeah, which kind of sucks, honestly. movie shouldn't have to do that. What did you think of the changing colour Can I be honest, Mitch? Can I be honest? It didn't hit me until too late into the movie that that was supposed to represent the passing of time. That is thought it was like a stylistic decision. That is hilarious. It was that dial-up internet meme in my head. You said it spinning, like the Macintosh spinning beach ball of death. When things were like really sort of kicking off with the rival gang is when I'm like, oh, wait, I get it.
00:17:59
Speaker
Movie codes. Let me go back to my intro to cinema studies class real quick and learn about mise-en-scene. I think it's really interesting that they inverted what would generally be the black and white to colour sections. so Because generally the most recent time is colour and the past time is black and white. Yeah, it's interesting. i think And I guess it shows that it's all story. It's all folklore yeah maybe. I think your idea that past is all folklore is an interesting point and I i would even agree with that. I think that's correct.
00:18:27
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What I think I find more interesting, though, about it is kind of this commentary on how present day Indigenous Australians have been forced to lose, like, a lot of their culture. Okay, yeah, okay. The colour of their culture has been co-opted and put into the white gentrification of, you know, the whole country and all that. Yeah, okay. I might have read into it too much, but just it felt interpretized it felt too deliberate to make the past so colourful and so filled with life. i mean, because you mentioned that it's almost a pseudo-documentary. Yeah, it's very observational. Yeah, because when you get to the past story that's in colour, the shot choice in there, it's movie shots. And yeah it breaks the fourth wall in that the characters look directly into the camera as they're introduced, and they react to things the narrator is saying. very spikely very spikely it's very story-esque whereas when you then go to the present day it really hits home that documentary style like a recount type of thing very detached the camera's never very close to anyone the closest you get is about a medium shot or so where it's set up very workhorse-esque and that it's set up in a way that it can catch everything without having to be repositioned or the shot has to be retaken or something like that it's really great it's very creative it's very interesting and i think there's just a part of me that wonders how much of that is a commentary on just what has happened to the first nations people it's a shame because i haven't actually seen i didn't i couldn't find any interviews for video interviews with the creative team behind this so like yeah if if anyone has any answers like let us know yeah please educate in contact with us yeah i know i made the joke about like it not clocking to me that there was the passing of time but i just want to say like One of the coolest shots in the film is that long take. It's like a minute long or whatever when it gradually transitions from black and white to colour. They do a colour to black and white because the movie opens in colour and then and they do a black and white to colour again, don't they? You're travelling through the land and it's yes It's all a landscape shot. I'm guessing it's on on a trailer or a tracking dolly or something like that. and it's just Good stuff. good i just I thought it looked really cool as a very literal you know moment.
00:20:29
Speaker
thought it was pretty cool. I loved the scenery in this film. In the elements. It would have been an absolute nightmare to shoot. Oh, it would have sucked ass. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You're bush trekking, there's swamp, and water is like the Achilles heel of any film. There's the running joke that, oh, everything wants to kill you in Australia. Buddy, in the Northern Territory, everything does want to kill you. I mean, they even mentioned crocodiles for two seconds. Yeah, the gators, mate.
00:20:53
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The gators. We don't have gators, we have crocs. Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Can you, like, non-Americanize our Australian podcast, please? But I do think... Australia, and kind of rightfully so, is known to be a desert country with true history of the Kelly gang. It's all like the forests of Victoria and all that. But we do also have these you know lovely kind of tropical swamp areas as well, way up in the north area. And it was just nice to have a film that really embraced that as the setting. And I enjoyed vaguely learning how they made canoes out of like the tree bark. They don't go in insane detail about how it's done, but it was fun to get the general gist of first they wet it, then they dry it. And then yeah I was like, that's interesting. I loved hearing about how they did that. It was cool. And I think it's those sort of smaller sides that really show the character and the humanity in what is such a, you know, the impending tragedy of it. You know what mean? Yes. I'm glad that this story was able to be told. I'm glad that white colonization had nothing to do with this. The fact that it's all self-contained until the very, very end with the narration where we don't really focus on the darker aspects and we're truly able to appreciate this way of living that is the oldest culture in civilization, in humanity, you know? It goes a long way of humanizing indigenous people. Like there's a really easy image to have in your head that they were just- very monolithic. They were monolithic and they were just, they were a symbol and then white people came along and ruined everything, which they did. But the indigenous people, they were people. They weren't symbols. They were just people who got jealous of each other's wives. They had misunderstandings. They had lives. They had humor. They had their own stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. And it wasn't white people who brought complexity to them. They were always complex. absolutely And this is a film that represents that so well. Especially in Australian school. We learn about the colonization of Australia. We learn about Captain Cook, who wasn't even like the first white dude to come here. And more importantly, we learn it all from a textbook. We learn from a textbook, exactly. yeah yeah We don't learn about the histories that came before and we don't go into good detail about it at least anyway. The representation this movie provides, what this movie does, I like it a lot and I think it's really important and I'm glad it's here. And I'm glad we as Australians made it. It's such a personal Australian film as well. Like you can see the human emotions that we all face. We see jealousy. We see the cycle of violence. We see pursuit of love. We see everything. And I think it's so powerful when emotions like that transcend language.
00:23:32
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The ending in particular when... The notion of an eye for an eye and then we part our separate ways. I think that was such a fantastic end to it. It shows, and I guess this is maybe lost in our modern segmented world, but it like it shows how at the end of the day, we're all just trying to live. We're all on this one rock together. And why?
00:23:54
Speaker
Why? why Why? Tell them that it's human nature. That's from that's Michael Jackson. like By the way, the next movie we're going to go see is Michael. oh my God. That's not true. We're not seeing Michael. I might. A, I refuse to watch that movie because I disagree with him as a person. I like his music a lot. And B, it's not Australian. Yeah, ohlthough yeah that's probably the This movie Toes the line Between the comedy But then also Really really Powerful moments Like the death dance At the very very end Is such a powerful moment yeah Firstly It's enlightening I had never heard of The concept of A death dance Before But when they explain it It makes So much sense Given the ideology Of the film And and the concept Of the afterlife And spirits And spirituality And connection to land As well And it's shot beautifully as well with the backlight and really cool. Really, really cool. Thumbs up. Good movie. I think this one's worth a watch if you're willing to pay attention to it Yeah, please don't get on your phone. Which I unfortunately did once. And yeah, like I think this would be best seen in a cinema environment. Yeah. Uninterrupted. Awesome to like get immersed in sound wise as well because the sound was pretty excellent. the natural foley.
00:25:08
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yeah If Acme or someone else does a screening on it. Almost all the people in the film weren't actors. They were just Aboriginal people of that the tribe and stuff. And they just were like, yeah, we'll do this. This is fun. And they just hung out. That's awesome. I do also think it's important to note, I think we we vaguely talked about one of the directors, but this was a directing duo. Yes. And yeah both their names have lost me, but the other one is an Aboriginal man from the land that this movie was shot there's a massive debate about telling cultural stories from a culture that isn't yours. But yeah, this this was a directorial duo who have made several Aboriginal-focused films in the past. Yeah. And so if they've done it once, they can do it again. And they've certainly pulled it off this time. They did a great job. Please go watch. I think it's worth a watch. As Matt said, though, do it when you're ready to focus. Pay attention. Probably my biggest complaint is it it can be a little dry. very observational. It's very observational. You know, like when you go to Melbourne Museum and there's like an interactive video playing. Can be like that. Yeah. it's very statically shot, landscape driven film. So it does give that energy. But yeah look, what's wrong with that? Nothing wrong with that. The culture's there, the story's there, the humour is there, in in my opinion, which is a great way to sort of break away from that, the mundanity of what would be static cinematography. Give it a watch if you're interested. And if you're not interested...
00:26:24
Speaker
You're racist. You are racist if you're not interested in this movie. And also, yeah, you get to see Indigenous Winnie the Pooh. He's pretty awesome. Love that guy. Yeah, he pretty cool. He was pretty neat. Mattithew. Hey, Mitch.
00:26:35
Speaker
What is the most Australian thing about this Australian movie? There's so much about this that is Australian.

Australian Cultural Discussions

00:26:42
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Pretty Australian movie, right? It's literally probably the most connected to the Australian land that we've had so far. It's probably the most Australian movie we've had. Bye. in my opinion, the most Australian thing about 10 canoes is the incessant need for the youth of Australia to play in a lake. Yes. Water is king. hanging out. They're building canoes. They're going around. They're, you know, be careful of crocodiles. Don't swallow the water. Yeah, don't swallow the water. Fortunately, crocodiles aren't really an issue down here. That's true. I haven't seen a crocodile in the Yarra River before or the Birrarunga. I'm sure they're in there, though. I think they are. But we don't get Saltwaters, at least, which are the big, big boys. That would be dangerous. We'd have to get Mr. Paul Hogan in from Crocodile Dundee 2. Reference! do it. Crocodile Dundee 2. Yeah, and the excellent Mr. Dundee. And no other movies whatsoever. No other movies. was thinking of that guy. Who was the... I can never remember his name. The one who's like... Steve Irwin. The Thousand Blossoms Blue. Oh, Bobcatter. But I ain't hearing any more about it while every three weeks someone's ripped apart by crocodile in northern Queensland. wonder if he swung into a lake in his youth at some point. If you didn't do that, you missed out on a core Australian thinger. I'm looking to say you're Australian because that's silly. Good to not Australian then because I didn't do that. But I watched someone on Instagram who did which was cool. that's the same diff. Did they do it like a POV or was it like- It was an old primary school friend and he's like, I'm living free or whatever. And it's just like, bro, don't swallow that water. It's not that dangerous if you don't screw it up. Also, actually is kind dangerous because there could be sticks and- And rocks. You can't see into it. It's rough. That's crazy.
00:28:18
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Yeah, well, that's the podcast. That's absolutely it. Yeah, cool movie. But next week. Matthew, ask me. Ask me what we're doing next week. Mitch, on Under Southern Screens next week, are we going for a

Upcoming Mad Max Series Announcement

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heavy hitter? Not only next week are we going for a heavy hitter. We're doing a full month. A month of heavy hitters. Oh, my goodness. We are doing Mad Makes. Mad Makes. Are you regretting listening to us? No, so for the month of May, each week, we're going to watch the Mad Max films in order of release. The quadrilogy. Excluding Furiosa. Yeah, Furiosa. We will do it, just not this time. We're giving you four Mad Max movies in a month. Like, what more do you want, mate? I think this is pretty generous. We figured that I bring up Mad Max enough in every single other episode. It was time to- We need to cleanse the palate. We need to get this out of the system. Once this is done, I'll never talk about Mad Max again. Unlikely. I love Mad Max. I genuinely think in maybe four of the 10 we've done, you've mentioned Mad Max and you know what? It's about time. It's my head a lot. It's in my head a lot. Well, I mean, before we go in, how much Mad Max have you seen?
00:29:28
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I've seen every single one except Thunderdome. That being said, I haven't seen the first one in years. So I'm really excited to take a little peek behind the curtain as it were and get reintroduced into the most obscure Australian films whatsoever that made no money and have no influence on how people perceive us. Yeah, no one knows Mad Max. I'm actually so excited. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. It's going an awesome ride. Yeah, Mad Please join us for Mad Max. And in the meantime, Mitch, how can people get excited for Mad Makes?

Engaging with the Audience

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How can they see more of us? You can check out our Instagram threads and TikTok at UndersouthernScreensPod. Yes, you can. And you can send us general excitement fan mail or ah even um we'll take um we'll take ah suggestions for movies. Yes, yes. UndersouthernScreensPod at gmail.com. Also. Also. I've been forgetting to say this, but we should probably start because we do need to kind of beg for this because it helps us. Please rate and review this podcast on your podcast app of choice. It helps us a lot. If you find the conversations about Mitch's father on this podcast interesting, give this a five stars. Which may or may not have been cut out of this podcast. So weird thing to say in case it isn't in here. going to You look so dumb now.
00:30:49
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Somebody leave it all in. well i've No, no, that's a catch-all, all right? I'm sadly saying that in case it was cut out. If it wasn't cut out, then I'm fine. We record this and then Mitch leaves and I edit the whole thing. So me making him look silly is in my hands. It's just us talking about my dad. And honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way. Send us messages. We're still wanting pictures of Eshes that you've befriended. Do that. um Please. um Anyway, see you guys. Have a good one. And Matthew, what should they do? you should keep an eye on them. Southern screens, baby. Bye.
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bye Bye. Thanks for listening to another episode of Under Southern Screens. We'll be back next week to talk more films down under. We just want to attribute that our opening title is Heavy Duty by Zoo and our closing title is Heavy Weight by Fell Creek. Thanks so much for listening and Mitch and I will see you in the next episode. See you next time.
00:31:49
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Under Southern Screens would like to acknowledge the stolen lands on which this podcast is recorded and produced and pay tribute to the Wurundjeri and Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation and Kamaragal people of the Eora Nation.
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