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The mad is furious! - Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)
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In the final episode of Mad Mayx (coming to you in the first week of June) Mitch and Matthew finally cover the coveted Mad Max: Fury Road? Is it as good as everyone says it is?
Yes. Yes it is.
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Introduction and Hosts' Welcome
00:00:04
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I am the night rider. You're terrible Muriel. Talk to me. You gonna do that Pogger Pogger? You've been talking the cop. Today is a brand new No, that's it. It's the vibe.
00:00:17
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Witness me, fellow Aussie film lovers, and welcome back to another episode of Under Southern Screens, the most road Australian cinema podcast. I'm Mitch. And I'm Matthew.
Playful Podcast Titles and Prank Episodes
00:00:29
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We've given it up on the the titles, at the most road. Well, no, that that was Subversion, because you would you would think I'd be, say, furious or most fury that true Australian cinema podcasts, but actually i said road instead. and if we said it was the most furious, then I would think of Fast and the Furious, and therefore we'd be sort of...
00:00:46
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not really following the the trend of this podcast. I feel like jumping straight to Fast and Furious would be fine because it's another car movie just like this. No, no, no, no, no. And that would be really fun. Imagine if people tuned in to this thinking we were going to talk about Fury Road and we actually ended up talking about Fast and Furious 4, which is just called Fast and Furious. That would be really funny because it means that we've done two prank...
00:01:10
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Two prank episodes. We've ruined Mad Makes for everyone, genuinely. yeah i mean, this is dropping in June now as well. That's true. Yeah, sorry about that. We had a very fun opportunity that did push this back a little bit. oh That's okay. up like I would take the opportunity over perfecting Mad Makes. Sometimes you've got to go left and sometimes you've got to go right. And sometimes you've got to turn left to go right, just like in Cars. We're bringing it back. We're bringing it back, baby.
00:01:36
Speaker
Look, here's my thing about Cars. Sure, ah yeah. Yeah. Cars 1, it's got the heart, mate. What heart? It's got the heart. Cars 2, it's got the nostalgia for me. And then Cars 3, like, it's it's fine. I don't know. Cars 3 is better than Cars 2. Come on. um As objectively as you can read art, which is not a lot, but it's objectively a better movie than Cars 2. I don't know, man. i Look, I think they're all great. On the Patreon one day, we'll do a Cars Watch and then we'll finally hash this out. We'll hash out this beef and like, I'm woefully unprepared to talk about my feelings about Cars. I'd have to re-watch them because it's been a while since I've watched
Mad Max: Fury Road - Release and Themes
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all of them. yeah But today we're doing the fourth episode of Mad Makes. Mad Makes. Woo! feel like I say that every single time. You've got the vibrato. Intro. Three, two, one. Who killed the world? Wee!
00:02:25
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It's me, you mean Mr. Max. Hand to hand combat. Explosion. I was playing um Justin Bieber's 2015 Purpose album because this film was released in 2015. Oh, is that the bit you were doing? that I had no idea that was. I knew it Justin Bieber song. just didn't realize the connection. I probably should have done a variety of 2015 musical songs. What other songs came out in 2015? Ed Sheeran. I don't know, bro. Ed Sheeran.
00:02:54
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His whole catalog came out in 2015. You know what's actually so funny? It actually even didn't, though, because Multiply came out 2014. The year before. Anyway, Mad Max Fury Road. this is Spoilers for. Spoilers. Spoilers for Fury Road. Why haven't you watched this movie yet? I say that and I only
Mad Makes Series and Film Analysis
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first watched it three years ago. Oh, my goodness. And man, was I missing out. You were missing out. Every time I watch this movie, I want to show it to someone who hasn't seen it. I literally texted my friend today being like, hey, have you seen Fury Road? We need to watch this. Yeah, you can just force them to. It's on site. I will chain them down and make them watch it. And they will like it. yeah They would honestly turn the tide, I think. I've met one person and who doesn't like this movie and their name was Max.
00:03:34
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That's ironic. That's very ironic, isn't it? There you go. Well, do you want me to talk about when I watched it or do you want to do your intro first? Let's get into the intro first. Okay. Then we'll go into the feels here. The rest it. bear with. In the final episode of Mad Max that isn't releasing in May, we'll be tackling the good Mad Max movie.
00:03:51
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The year is 2015. In an age of cinematic legacy sequel triumphs like Gem and the Holograms and Vacation, there was just one 70-year-old George Miller and a dream. And even though I actually kind of like the Vacation reboot, I like Mad Max Fury Road a lot more. Pre-production on this film first began in the late 1980s, however various narrative, political, and Mel Gibson conflicts caused several delays and it wasn't until 2012 that Fury Road entered production.
00:04:17
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I'll be honest, the Australian ties to this film are slim instead of being shot in Broken Hill as originally planned. The production moved to Namibia after intense rainfall caused the once dilapidated wasteland to become a beautiful
Production History and Casting Choices
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botanist bounty. I got a high score in Year 12 English. Deliteration's good. It's a good argumentative device. Thanks, Mitch. Thanks, man. You're welcome. You're welcome. Mel Gibson is out and replaced with Tom Hardy, a burly man doing an Australian accent. It's something. It's something. Also, Charlize Theron is in this as Furiosa, that character from the movie no one saw. Some other notable cast include Hugh Key's Burn as a Morton Joe, who is not Toe Cutter. Take that legacy sequel, Archetypes. Pfft. Also, Zoe Kravitz and the female lead from Transformers 3 in this. Neato burrito. Anyway, this movie is good. Everyone knows this movie is good. The late David Stratton gave this movie three out of five, which is objectively wrong. How could a movie with pole vaulting bomb people, a girl who calls people schlanger, and a soundtrack that is genuinely biblical be anything less than a four? It's not an Australian movie, really, but we've come this far, so oh well. Let's add nothing to the discussion as to why Mad Max Fury Road is really good. Hell yeah. I'm here for So, 2015, Mitchell Hale is 15 years old. stuff. I've just started getting into movies. I've just started getting into He's movie He's a movie man. think that was the year I went saw Birdman in cinema. You know, that really changed everything for me. That was the turning point? Yeah. But this movie, it was the second MA movie I got to see in cinema. Oh. The first one being Kingsman, the Secret Service. And I saw this with a friend. I had not seen a single Mad Max before. This is my first Mad Max movie I ever watched. This is possibly the movie that made me want to make movies. Yes,
World-Building and George Miller's Vision
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we got there. 2015, I saw probably a lot of movies I would consider my favorite. And probably just because I didn't know movies could be that good until 2015. It was a great year for movie. That whole era was a great era for movies. The mid-2010s was really good. Like, early to mid-2010s is really good cinema. It's kind of Marvel's peak was there. Like, that was when we liked them, right? Before the pendulum changed and... Yeah, exactly. And there's just... There was good stuff coming out.
00:06:25
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Damn, this movie... Oh, my God. It starts off... You feel like you're a bit of a schizophrenic. Like, everything's just kind of cutting and Yeah, it's like, what's happening? No context. There's frames being cut out of the film to make it, like, jump and stuff. And you're like, what the hell? Max is getting tattooed and... jumping through water and then he's in a cliff face yeah exactly and there's like this weird girl that's sort of just like around there's like ghosts of his past is that his daughter no he didn't have a daughter he had a son also he's tom hardy now also he's tom hardy now exactly and the mad max car gets destroyed in the first the mad max car gets immediately wrecked and then the rest of the movie happens and oh my god it's
00:07:03
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What a ride. We're not going to add anything new to this discussion. What's new to say about this movie? This movie has been talked about to death, right? But, like, deservedly so. I don't think you can overhype this movie. It is exactly what it sets out to do. Yeah. And more. I guess, like, what we can talk about, though, is, like, in the first episode of, or the second episode of Mad Makes, I said some my lines of, i don't see Max as really a character in this. He's more of a yeah force of nature.
00:07:30
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I probably have done a little research before I came here because there's a fan theory that, look, I don't see fan theories as what actually is occurring. I'm not one those people who like headcanon stuff in my own head. I just kind of like it though think it's cool. There's a fan theory that the four horsemen of the apocalypse are represented throughout this movie. Okay. So war is the bullet farmer. The Bullet Farmer, you know, he's all about guns and he's got the... Muscly boy. Oh, Conquest slash Pestilence modern Joe. Okay, okay. Because he's like sick and all that, but he's also, his whole thing is domination and power above all. And he holds all the water, which is the most powerful resource in... The Wasteland. You have Famine. This one's the weakest, I'd say. That's the people eater. Okay. really huge guy. Because I think the idea is, like, while he himself is not Famine, everyone else is in Famine and he's taking all the resources because he's quite fat. Yeah, he's usurping it. Like, no one else is really kind like, fat like he is. And he's got a debonair suit. He does. And an insane nose. little brass nose or whatever. And then the pale horse death is Max. Mm-hmm. I can't the reason why he's on the side of the good guys, but he just is. Overall though, I reckon he is way for the plot to move forward than anything else. And I kind of love this representation of him because we've gotten the character of Max before and we had that with Mel Gibson and he is a character in those for sure. In this one though, he just does things. He's in a scene, but he's never truly a focus I think. Yeah. Like even at the very, very start when he's getting captured and tattooed, the whole purpose of those scenes is showing- It's world building. The world building of the war boys and that whole new universe.
Editing, Cinematography, and Family Influence
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And oh my God, let's talk about that world building, man. It's good, right? Insane. Just like, I'm someone who wants to make movies. I'm someone wants to write movies. How does someone come up with this good of like world building by themselves? It's so good. isn't it it's just so incredible mean we've gushed about the world building I think at least in the episode we just did but I think throughout Mad Makes we've been talking and this one forgotten how incredible this world building was yeah yeah just mad Like, I knew it was good, but I'd forgotten. It sticks with you, the different factions, and then also, like, their motivations, and then also the whole Valhalla thing. Just, like, it sticks with you, and it's, like, hard for a movie to do. Fury Road is the ultimate evolution of the Mad Max movies. I actually 100% agree with that. I was going to mention that. was going to bring that You can basically track George Miller refining this one film idea he has. Correct. Through these three films. Yeah. And the others are good besides one, which is fine. Which is fine. Beyond Thunderdome is fine, but he's a different filmmaker. He's not the young buck he once was. He's now refined. He's perfected his craft. He's made two Babe in the Pig in the City movies and also two Happy Feet movies. That's it. He's really done the work to like get to where- And now he's for action. Now he's ready to make the next Mad Max movie. And it's the best-
00:10:24
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big vehicle chased by smaller vehicle sequence. It's the best insane goons with fanatics chasing up and stuff like that. The different action set pieces are so very... It's the best hand-to-hand sequences that he kind I know in the end of Road Warrior there is kind of a bit of hand-to-hand combat, but he only really gets that. I forgot to mention in the last movie, the Thunderdome sequence is kind of like
Character Dynamics: Furiosa and Max
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the start of going into actual choreographed fighting. Yeah, set piece... Like an actual, like the set piece is the hand to hand fighting, not cars. But in this one, ah, I can't say the words. It's so good. It's delicioso, brother. For me, this was a movie that always eluded me. Everyone said it was good, but I hadn't seen the other ones. So I wanted to go through and watch the other ones. So I went through one and I went through two and then I just sort of peed it out for a little while. And then I went to watch Fury Road and my world was absolutely changed. I remember this movie coming out in the cinema and I was like, oh, this looks like a, because the font was all like gruff and like blah, blah, blah. It just looked like another sort of generic action movie to me. And also because I was a young and at the time, I just didn't really get it like that. But man, I wish I had seen this in the cinema. Oh, it was actually so good seeing movie in cinema, dude. I think I was pretty similar to you. was kind of like, oh, Mad Max, I've heard that before. Oh, what is this? This looks kind of dumb. Yeah. But I think the one thing that sold me, though, was in the trailer, they had the shot inside the sandstorm. Yeah. Yes, yeah, And it's, you know, like the sand tornadoes and all that. And I went, that's sick. And then I watched it in cinema. I was so surprised when I went in cinema how early that is in the film as well. That is such like a, that feels like a finale sequence. But that's act one. It's literally like what leads into act two. Oh my gosh, and the fight with Nux and Max in the car while they're wrestle for control over the flare and stuff. Oh, it's so done. And you can barely see it, but you can tell you're engaged in it. And that's something actually that's missing from the other three, and I'm guessing this is just down to time period and budget. The cinematography in this one, not just the whole centered cinematography, because everyone's talked about that, but the actual shots... are so calculated they look like paintings do you know mean it's just so picturesque like i mean obviously there's the shot of them entering the dust storm that's biblical looking yeah there's also you know the water being released and it's just like the visual composition this feels so planned and so purposeful as opposed to the other three which are just like we'll just get a mid-shot of Maxi and then we'll just move on to reverse shot the lady. The police are coming. really going rush this. Yeah, let's go. Go, go. Get it going. Get it going. Get the shot. We can justify closing this road for about 30 minutes before we have to do a run-off. It shows the benefit of taking your time with a movie because this was shot in 2012. Photography took place in 2012. It didn't come out until 2015. So that's three years of VFX, building it up, building up the style Absolutely saving this movie in the edit, I think. I get the sneaking suspicion. Do you know who edited this? It was his wife, no? Yeah, it was his wife. And he gave it to her because... And she went, why would I take this gig? And he said, you should take this gig because if I get a man to edit this, it's going look like any other action movie. And this movie's editing is so perfect. It's so peak...
00:13:50
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and it has things that i should hate it has the sped up footage it has weird stuff like that but it just works man it just freaking works here it doesn't have the crappy slow mo yeah that's true that's very very good you know the crappy slow mo but it does have the sped up footage i think the thing the sped up footage is that it's almost you can almost get into it because you feel like you're one of the war boys when that's happening yeah yeah and so you kind of get like that's how they are viewing the world it's not just an artistic choice it's actually like you're it getting into the minds of these characters yeah it's a rabid movie and it reflects in its editing as well i think well i said that max isn't a main character i don't get the argument that furiosa is more important than mad max in this film i do you reckon she's more focused on as a character absolutely yeah but i think they're both as important as as each other I think they're equals. I think that this is an interesting dynamic as the first sort of buddy Mad Max movie. It's the first time he's ever had an equal yeah like on screen, basically. It's sort of about time because we've had three Mad Max movies of him just being this impenetrable macho guy. Like the juggernaut? juggernaut man. And yeah, we just need someone to match that, I think. And it yeah yeah, it was such a fantastic sort of inclusion.
Feminist Themes and Hopeful Narrative
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And I love Furious' character. Yeah. She's great.
00:15:02
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That initial fight between them when he's still got the chain and muzzle and she's missing an arm is yeah so good because it's this, if there was no advantages or anything, it's hard to tell which one would actually win in a fight. yeah The reason why Max wins in this one specific sequence is just because he manages to use her disadvantages better than she uses his disadvantages against him. yes yeah I just love that part with the fight. like almost basically just stop goes to a standstill as he has like the gun being slowly like the pistol and he like kicks like the um clip out of the pistol and there's like the one bullet in the chamber and it gets put to his cheek but he manages to push it away just in time and it like ricochets off the music goes with it too every technical element merges so well like so the intense drums in the soundtrack and and the cinematography and then the color and then also just the way it ends with him like shooting around the head oh it's so cool it's cool it's sick and it's so refreshing to see a modern movie that feels cool and not pandering you know what i mean yeah not begging you to be like oh recognizable this is cool right guys it's something that is setting the tone of being cool and i'm just so here for it the other thing too i have ah
00:16:18
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suspicion, this is my reading, that the whole Immortan Joe thing is alluding to the current state or the 2015 state of the world. You know what I No, absolutely. It's dying structures, old dying men who have the natural resources of the world at a stranglehold, at a chokehold, and they're just momentarily giving it to the people that need it. Brother, I think it's not subtext, it's text. Did I just do a basic film...
00:16:48
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No, no, I think... understand that that's what they're doing. I understand that that's what they're doing. just, like, it's representing what the world is, you know? You've managed to articulate it really well. I think maybe people have seen that and, like, maybe put in the back of their mind and you've managed to bring that actual reading forward. Like, I don't think that was a nothing, like, thing to say. I think that was really well put. Yeah, I don't know. It's a good call, like, yeah. And, like, also forcing young women to, like, bear their children and, like, all this, like, legacy and stuff and... This movie, this been talked about a lot by lot people who would know more about it than I think you and I and would have like more authority to talk about than you and I. But it is a very feminist film. I agree, yeah. And like the whole idea is that you got to give the world back to the women to actually save it, you know? Exactly, because at the end of the day, they're the ones that continue on life. Yeah, they're the only ones who are making sure that life is continuing. Exactly, like what you just said. I don't know I just repeated what you said. all right. It's okay. Just steal my points. It's all good. Yeah, yeah, Can you make it sound like I said that actually? Yeah, I'll just AI my voice to make sure it'll make it how you said it. Good job, Mitchell.
00:17:50
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You are clever. Can we talk about The Brides for second? Because I think that is an aspect of the character list that goes woefully underappreciated because obviously we have Max and we have Furiosa. And even Nux gets a lot of his whole radicalization to good storyline is talked about lot. He's got a really good character arc, but the wives do always kind of get the brides. Brides' wives. Wives. The women in white. The women that are underappreciated in this movie. It sounded so bad. it's funny. Each of them has a uniquely distinct character and their motivations fit with their, you know, the pregnant wife wants to bear her child in a safe environment. And then there's the dreamer and then there's the kooky war wife. you know it's like it all it all just it's the different archetypes and you can see why a Morton Joe would fall for each and every one of them because they reflect an aspect of his personality it's just like cinema you know what I'm saying it's good it's good kino dude it's good kino was it last episode think we talked about how this franchise kind of refuses to do the thing you expect it to do yeah and the killing off of at that point the main wife like the main focus wife transformers three lady the transformers three ladies The Splendid Angorad. That's the one. Splendid. Ah, Precious is Glory of the Rings. No, Precious is, well, there's Toast, there's Cheeto, there's Capable, and then there's the Splendid Angorad. I personally like Cheeto because it reminds me of Cheeto Puffs. Yummy.
00:19:16
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i like cheeto bacon balls yummy cheese and bacon balls i i never liked them as a kid actually that takes is not something i can help if you with i was more of a cheesel man quite you would be actually he's pretty good cheeses are good like there's that part as well where the movie baits you out and it's just like yeah she she succeeded in doing the thing that you expected to do because this movie is a action movie and she's gonna live no wait she's dead she got hit by car surprise and then the ultimate fate of her character is getting butchered for a child that is it's too early it's a horrendous horrendous fate and one that a lot of women would face i think in real life well that's the whole thing it's the abortion thing right it's the putting the woman's body behind or the woman's life sorry behind these babies who aren't even people yet like yeah exactly what a film It says so much and you're able to infer so much from it because it is simple. And I will talk about, like was about this last week with Thunderdome. Thunderdome, a lot of it is spelled out. And so you're just like, okay, this is a literal depiction of a text that I'm ingesting right now. Here you get the lore, but you also see the the interweaving inferences and stuff you can pick up on. And that's something that a lot of modern movies don't do. They're very literal movies. Yeah. The movies are very literal these days. The subtext in Fury Road isn't that hidden. But what it does, though, is it is leading the audience to its meanings. But it does it in the way that makes the audience think they came to it themselves. And therefore they feel clever and it sticks with them more. Because they, it's like Inception, basically. They came up with the idea of what the movie's about.
00:20:52
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Rather than when the movie tells you what it's about and you're like, yeah, i get it. I understand. Maybe that's why i like it so much. It makes me feel fulfilled in my film opinion. Well, that's the thing. That's why i feel smart when I'm talking about this movie, but the movie just led me there. Like, it's just I'm not the one who came up with any of this. The movie came up with this. I'm just saying what the movie's about. So master manipulator George Miller is... He's so clever. Oh, my goodness. And obviously, like, everyone, and like, the cinematographer... I don't know any of the people's names, but the cinematographer... i know Junkie XL was the guy who did the music. The poor people who worked on this movie in yeah the elements... And having to deal with production setbacks and intense conditions. Apparently Tom Hardy wasn't great to work with either. Exactly. But he apologized for it. he He apologized for his behavior, like publicly. Look, I like him while as an actor. And I think even as a person, he seems like a decent guy, but still rough. Better than Mel Gibson. That's all I'll say. Oh, well, yeah. At least he he didn't do anything racist. He was just a dick.
00:21:46
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um The stunts are great. the The vehicular action is great. The aesthetic is fantastic. I love the color in this movie. Everyone talks about the color. Yeah. Those explosions look damn good. Yeah. i but they're just It's real. It's so red. It's so stylized and so good. I have no idea why George Miller...
00:22:02
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made a black and white version of Fury Road and put that into cinemas. It is crazy, right? I find that very weird. I actually own that version because comes with... Well, it came with the set I have. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, so I didn't buy it separately. it just It's also there along... because i think the black and white version also has a bunch of special features that weren't with the normal version. Oh, need that. You know you need the most. You need the most. But also, don't watch the black and white version of this movie. Because the cinematography by itself just looks good. And cinematography with or without colour generally looks pretty good. No, are you talking about, mate? Good movies are always in colour. No black and white movies are good. That's not what i meant. I meant a lot cinematography. Citizen Kane, The Naked City, Casablanca. That's not what I was saying. You know that's not what I was saying. was saying some cinematography, like, the colour does actually make the shot because that was how the shot was made, was designed with that colour in mind. What's it called? The black and chrome version Yeah, Black and Chrome. It just sort of ruins the whole vibe of it. yeah My university, our university, because we went to the same university, it ruined Fury Road for a lot of people. Did it? Because in our film studies class, that was the version they played. They played the Black and Chrome version. and not Why? It was George Miller's whole intention for the film or whatever. But it's like, at the same time, no, it wasn't. It was just because the movie was popular and he just wanted to you know try something. He pulled a Zack Snyder, I guess. It wasn't really the vibe for me. i mean, I'm going real. Sometimes directors need to be pulled away from their movies. The black and chrome version isn't hurting anyone. No, that one's pretty harmless, but I'm thinking
Cultural Impact and Sequel Anticipation
00:23:30
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more of like George Lucas. Well, that's the thing. they're They're restoring it. Finally. I know. It's been about time. After 50 years. And they're doing it because they know they'll make money, not because they actually care about film, um keeping film around and stuff. Hey man, I'll buy it. I've been big on the Star Wars fan edits for a long time. I've got like the despecialized editions and then AD ones, but Mad Max, black and chrome, don't know.
00:23:51
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It's a thing. the color for this is part of the whole appeal. Because the red you see when things explode, it's so not realistic, but just looks so good though. It's what people think of when Mad Max comes to mind. yeah yeah well this whole movie is just what people think of when my max comes to mind this wiped everyone's remembrance of the last three movies just oh wait there was there's a whole franchise before a whole franchise oh dude i'm so i'm so sad wasteland is just not out yet do you reckon it'll happen Mad Max 5 The Wasteland is is this movie that's been in development hell for years. To be fair, this movie didn't do well, if I remember correctly. It lost money. Its budget was too high. It looks brilliant, but the budget for what this is is probably too high. The studio Warner Brothers didn't honor that...
00:24:32
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I don't know. How could they? Warner Brothers, the most trustworthy film company of all time. This was back in 2015 before they were stupid. I don i don't know if Zaslav was a part of this. This was pre-Space Jam, A New Legacy. Oh, God. Don't remind me of that film. I haven't even watched it. Remember the Mad Max Fury Road sequence in Space Jam 2? What's Is there actually? Yeah, they go into Fury Road and LeBron is like one of the... He's not even a war boy or anything. He's just like a guy. He's just a Mad Max guy. It's crazy that they included the rapists from Clockwork Orange in that Next to the It clown. Next to Pennywise, yeah. and Morty's in it as well. It's like the Fortnite of movies and derogative. Movies are back, guys. Say you will about the rest of the movie and Tom Hardy's performance. I like it. I think it's good.
00:25:12
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I know a lot of people, not a lot of other people, but i know other people are a bit iffy on it, whatever. I'm iffy on I think it's great. That opening monologue, though, is sick. and then But he eats a lizard. I felt bad for the lizard. And then he eats a little two-headed lizard. It's cool. yeah on tom hardy i don't know man i don't know say what you will about maybe the acting choices he makes he sells the action oh 100 that's not that like but when furiosa spoilers when furiosa is like dying and stuff and he's just all like no don't you know what i mean he's like no i think he's hardened i get it it's all true it's all it's all it's all personal preference and all that i get that but i think that's not giving him enough credit i think he does more than that but are you a fan of charlie's that's the thing Everyone keeps telling me she's a really good actor and I just never really believe it.
00:25:55
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I mean, I don't think she's bad. think I've seen her anything beside this, actually. know Monsters meant really good, but just never got around watching it. What else you seeing? She's in like that other one where she's in ugly makeup, I think. She's Apex with Taron Egerton now Netflix. Which will be part of the movie we watch at some point because it is an Australian movie, as far as I'm aware. We'll probably get more acquainted with Charley's pretty soon. Yeah, we'll let you know. Look, I don't think she's bad per se. I just don't, I've never been as sold on her as everyone keeps telling me. She seems like a good actor. I need to make that very clear. I don't think she's bad. But I like Tom Hardy. I like the part where he finally says his name. Like he goes, my name is Max. That's good. He sells himself opening up for tenderness, I think.
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Which is funny because it's the same character arc we've seen from the past. He learns to again, again, again. again but it plays into the idea that these are all just the same story being told at a campfire, yeah just in different iterations. But also that is still stupid. um But he ain't no jolly swagman, that's for sure. He did not camp by no billabong. Is this an Australian film? I think the vibe is Australian film. I think we can adopt it. George Miller made it. That's Aussie point one. Aussie point one. There's a lot of Aussies in the cast. lot Aussies in the cast. Hugh Keysburn as Immortan Joe, who we haven't even talked about yet. Hugh Keysburn, brilliant villain. One of the best villains ever, straight up. Better than Toe Cutter. Better than Toe Cutter. Toe Cutter's great, by the way, but just this is... He's actually like playing a full character in this. Toe Cutter's just insane, right? yeah
00:27:15
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Immortan Joe actually has wants, desires, but drive. Also video game. yeah Mad Max video game. Mad Max video game. It's good. It's kind of set in this world. It's basically just and a reason for you to drive around a semi-decent open world and upgrade a car. That isn't the car, by the way, that Mad Max has. That also gets blown up in the game. I'm sad Mad Max car gets blown up twice in this movie. It does, doesn't But the opening like blows up and rolls. It's just like, love it. It's just so good. And then there's like the whole final chase back to the Citadel when they turn around in the cellplanes. So good. I think the one thing that disappoints me a little bit is just kind of how many of the lady bandits they kill off. Like i understand like kind of the point. It's all of them, right? All them. almost all of them, I think. Yeah. I think you could have left some of them alive. The one that pisses me off the most is the younger one who just kind of stands in the middle of the road and gets run over. She like dodges one. She did a sick move. She dodges a bunch of moves. She shoots a gun. Like have some spatial awareness, brother. Like, you know what i mean? She's so me for real, for real. Literally get out of the road, Matt. What are you talking about?
00:28:21
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It's a minor character. Yeah. And I love i love that whole subplot. The fact that the reveal that they drove through the Greenland place already is pretty, pretty dark. That is my favorite scene in the whole movie is that realization that the conservation and the hope for a better world has already passed us by. But it hasn't though. there's The seeds, like the the other the lady has all these seeds and then they can take it back to the sanctuary. Can always begin anew, yeah. And they can begin a new there. So there is a moment where maybe you think the hope is gone, but the hope is actually still up. And I think that's actually maybe why this is the best Mad Max movie. It's because it's a hopeful movie. It's a powerful message. It's a movie that's saying the world can end possibly quite well, but there's always hope. There's always a possibility they come back. As long as there's someone that believes in it. That wants to like try and believes. Yeah. And which is unlike the other Mad Max movies where they're very much just like, like we live to fight another day is kind of like- Yeah, and just survival. It's like the hope is that we live to the next day. Whereas this one's like, the future is actually bright. Like there is a possibility of getting back to a place of peace. And maybe that's just a George Miller like wisdom He's grown up. He's no longer- He's a grown man. Yeah, he's no longer- to be fair, Beyond Thunderdome kind of ends with a bit more optimism towards the future as well. But then I think this is the best version of that.
00:29:34
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I think he grew up from being super edgy with Mad Max 1 and 2. And then 3, he made it big and and it was like- Look, 3's rough. like I was really harsh on I feel like I should actually apologize for being so harsh it. Bro, we only recorded it like half an hour ago. I know, but I've already regretted because just, i feel like, how would I be if like, i don't know, if you died and I had to like do something, like what what how would that affect me, you know? Bro, if I died you would have to take on like all of my film ideas and all of my scripts and you'd have to make them into ah all into movies. And I have to dedicate them all to you. Yes. My filmography would be your filmography, bro. I get your production company? Yes. You're already a part of it, brother. Don't worry. It's you and me, baby. It's you and
00:30:13
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the moon To moon, baby. To the moon. With the GameStop stock reference. On the whole, Mad Max Fury Road, everyone knows it's good, but I think it is the first three Mad Maxes feel like the short films that you make in film school before you go on to make a feature film, and that feature film is Fury Road. Yeah, those are like the proofs of concept that then get you funded You get the style down, you learn how to make a movie with one, you learn how to tell a story with two, and then you get a bit full of yourself and and you try and- You realise what you shouldn't do in three. and What you shouldn't do in three, and then you make a really good four, and that's Fury Road.
00:30:49
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That's my definitive statement. I love that. Anyway, let's finish this up. Matthew. What up? This film that was not shot in Australia and is very tangentially Australian. What is the most Australian thing about it? Well, I think this flips the needle or whatever they say. This turns the dial and shows that it is an Australian movie. Yes. Pop off. The most Australian thing about Mad Max Fury Road is the fact that even in the most inhospitable, unlivable weather conditions, there will always be someone that says, what a lovely day.
00:31:20
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Yep. Thank you. What a day. What a lovely day. Honestly, it's a film built to be iconic. It's not trying to be, but just straight is. And that's the end of Mad Makes, everyone. That's the end of Mad Makes. How did we get here? How did we get here, man? How did we get here? Thanks for sticking through watching four Mad Max movies back to back, guys. Hopefully it was fun for you guys. Yeah. Hopefully you watched along with us. That was cool. And we'll do Furiosa. Yeah. we will do furiosa we just don't want to like blow up famous movie load too quickly that's it yeah we got we got a pipeline we'll get to our murals weddings we'll get to our priscilla's we'll get to our we'll do elvis i can i can rage against elvis my arch nemesis great gaspy will return in under sudden screens doomsday but next week
00:32:09
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It's my doomsday. But Mitch, where can they find more about us and our podcast and our beautiful lives? They can do all of that on Instagram, threads, and TikTok under the pseudonym at Undersunderscreenspod. That's it. We're not called Undersunderscreens in our daily lives. We're actually called Mitch and Matt in our daily lives. They call me Mitch Matt and they call him Matt Mitch. So it's like the Mario Brothers movie. I'm Matt Matt and you're Mitch You're Matt Matt and I'm Mitch Matt. Oh, right. Okay. Because, you know, it's Mario Mario and Luigi Mario. That makes me the Luigi of this group. Honestly, I would take it. love being And you identify as the Luigi of own friend group, shoot us an email at undersudernscreenspod at gmail.com. There This is the stuff. See, I did a public speaking once. He's such He's such a professional. Also, please rate and review this podcast nicely. Don't give us a bad one, please. Yeah, please be nice. Please be nice. We gave you four Mad Max movies, guys. What more do you want? We're going to give you more stuff next week. That's it. Such as? We're watching a new movie next week. It's the 20... Well, new... It won't be new by the time we put this out. It's called The Deb, 2026 movie The Deb, directed by Rebel Wilson of Pitch Perfect fame. I love Pitch Perfect. It's in cinemas now, at least when we're recording this. So give it a watch and we'll watch it next week and we can all have a little rendezvous, as they say. Debutante. Yeah, he's not wrong. He's absolutely not wrong. guess not. I'm not.
00:33:32
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I suppose. Anyway. Thank you so much for watching this episode, guys. Thank you for listening to Mad Makes and... Drive into the Southern screen. Poor cinema owner. Anyway, see you next week, guys. Bye. Bye.
00:33:44
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Thanks for listening to another episode of Under Southern Screens. We'll be back next week to talk more films down under. We just want to attribute that our opening title is Heavy Duty by Zoo and our closing title is Heavy Weight by Fell Creek. Thanks so much for listening and Mitch and I will see you in the next episode. See you next time.
00:34:05
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