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Speaker: Hello and welcome to the I'm Not a barista podcast where you can get inspired by real life stories from the people behind the cup. Join us as we talk about everything to do with coffee from having a career in this industry to brewing tips and how you can support this global community. Humanity runs on coffee and together we can empower the people behind the cup.
Speaker: Hello everyone, this is your host Miki Wong. Today, we have a very special guest. His name is Peter. He quit his job during the pandemic and set up a coffee shop on his bike. Peter simply wanted to bring the coffee community together, bring the coffee shop vibe to the people's door tabs in a social distance.
Speaker: He cycled around the blue cargo bike, providing special coffee, homemade cookies and meaningful conversations. In between the lockdowns, Peter has been organizing social distance, outdoor community meetups. Peter is a great listener and he's not just a barista, but also a coffee therapist. Hello, Peter. Welcome to our podcast. Cheers, man. Cheers. Let's go back to the very beginning. How did you start your coffee journey?
Speaker: That's a conversation for, as I say, usually a bottle of wine rather than a cup of coffee. I moved away from home when I was 18. I'm from Poland originally, but I lived in Ireland. I moved there when I was 18. One of the first jobs I ever had was in the coffee shop. I had an allowance of
Speaker: You know, one coffee and one muffin per day. So I went full on with more caramel, mashed potatoes, cream, and yeah, give me all the sugar. I feel sick and I think I'm slightly addicted to sugar now as well because of those choices.
Speaker: Then I took part in jobs and then I had an opportunity to move to one full time in the restaurant. I went for that, even though my mother said not to do that, because we all like to be in this comfortable spot, but you have two jobs, stick there. But I would never move on. I would never learn something. I went to the uncomfortable. I went to the unknown and I went to the restaurant.
Speaker: and I was a waiter and then I met my partner, she wanted to study nursing and coffee was always around somewhere in the background, you know, always kind of interested. And then I met my partner Naomi in Ireland, we moved to London because she wanted to study nursing and I wanted to work for Jamie Oliver. So I found Jamie's Italian in London. I was like, yeah, let's move over there. I walked into the restaurants, I think
Speaker: Second day after moving into London, we had lunch and I asked for the job. I got a job and I worked for Jamie for four years. Because London is full of great coffee, I was like after work or in my day off, I would just go into town and into the first zone and start exploring all those super cool coffee shops.
Speaker: And this is kind of how I discovered that, oh, so this is flat white and it doesn't need sugar because I went to workshop coffee off Oxford Street in London. It was just so cool. And those guys with the apron, I mean, I was so impressed. And I felt like, what are we doing, James? This is crap. You know, like they maybe like present ourselves sometimes and how the quality is sometimes maybe slipping and
Speaker: There was a tremendous and fantastic opportunity and meeting Jamie himself and the whole ethos behind it and hard work and passion and everything. I've learned so much and I'm so grateful for that time. But you have the certain vision when you look at the business from the outside and then when you come in to the inside and you see how things could be done better because they can always be done better.
Speaker: That's the difference. So then the things which I thought were broken in the restaurant, then I coming in and in the coffee shop, I see that's all fixed. I'm like, wow, this is amazing. And then I started reading more into it, and I started doing more espresso classes, latte art classes on my own time. And I was so impressed with what the leaf is coming out of this. How does that happening? I couldn't grasp the idea. And all this was so exciting that I just went down the rabbit hole. And then my son happened, Logan, and we moved to Cardiff.
Speaker: Then I got a job in Penart where we are now in the coffee shop and I saw this lovely community and then I realised that coffee is people and if we don't focus on that then we're missing a big, big point over here and the rest is history I guess.
Speaker: We often hear that coffee could mean a lot of things to different people. What does coffee mean to you? Yeah, well, that's that definitely links into that coffee's people, you know, because it all started with, I started my Instagram account as a photographer being like, Hey, I just really love the latte art, you know, and I really want to capture all of it. So I would always do a flat lay photos of pretty latte art. And if, and if you as a barista didn't give me a swan, I was like, no, man, that's not a good coffee shop. That was me four years ago. I was pretentious.
Speaker: I'm not going to use a bad language, but I was just so stuck in my own ego and my own ways of, yeah, this espresso is that thing and this thing, and talking about stuff I had no idea about. But that's one of those things I think specialty coffee sometimes brings from people, that we're so intimidated by all this knowledge, and it was someone from the outside coming in.
Speaker: looking at all the boards and all the process and all the fancy names most people don't understand, then you kind of scratch your head and feel like, well, maybe I should know that. And if I don't, then there's something wrong with me. So I reacted to that saying, well, no, I do know. And let me, yeah, well, washed, yeah, I have the honey coffee, you know, and it's going to taste like
Speaker: cherries and chocolate. But until this day, I've got a lot of friends, coffee friends in Cardiff and they say that until this day, sometimes someone will walk into the coffee shop and ask for a cherry coffee because the only words they could understand was one of the tasting notes, which is cherry chocolate, whatever. And I'm like, okay, so we're doing it wrong. If someone walks into the coffee shop and asks for a cherry coffee and the barista is scratching their heads like, what?
Speaker: And even if it's like only one person a day, we lost that one person. And you don't measure your business or your life by the things which went well. You measure your life and business by the things which went wrong. And that's how you can learn if you listen to the criticism, if you listen to the high street, if you listen to the people around you. And first of all, if you listen to yourself, and if you are true to yourself or what you believe in and you're going with your guts, then as long as you don't hurt others, you don't hurt yourself and you don't hurt the planet.
Speaker: Definitely go towards that.
Speaker: That's a very, very good point. I guess nowadays it's so hard for people to stop and listen to what we really want. And we like to talk more, I guess. And there's like, people have short, you know, like tension for everything, social media, everything. When we sit down there and start listening and the world will be a very different. Thank you for that. How did you get the idea of starting this coffee on bike?
Speaker: So the biggest realization was that coffee is people. So when I worked in the shop here in Penaerthen, we decided to close it in March, I felt, you know, I understand the decision. We have a social responsibility not to encourage gatherings, but at the same time, we would only takeaways anyway. It was just a coffee window next to the train station. I was the only man working in there.
Speaker: So closing it and people would come in there, you know for the conversation and sometimes I would someone would be on the third flat white just because they're talking to me for two hours, you know. So I felt like this is really important for someone's mental health. And if you can imagine that you have this routine coming into one place for five days a week and you stay there for an hour and you talk.
Speaker: That's almost like counseling session, you know? Yeah. And sometimes I would just be there to listen. And that was very important. And all of those things I started thinking about, okay, it was two and a half years I was there, you know, and now we're closing the shop and we don't fully understand the situation we're in yet. And this is all very unpredictable. But my gut feeling told me that I have to be closer to the community. I have to be closer to the people. Because if coffee is people, and I'm on furlough now,
Speaker: Well, furlough is not a bottomless pit. Money needs to end somewhat. This bubble will burst at some point. So I decided to quit and say no to furlough and start the bike idea.
Speaker: I don't know how this happened. I just knew that it has to be a bike because I need to deliver to people's homes. So if you can't come to the coffee shop, the coffee shop will come to you. And this is how I started doing the research. How am I going to do this? How am I going to come to at least 40 households a day so I can make it worthwhile to sell at least 40 cups of coffee so I can pay for my own bills?
Speaker: And this is how I started questioning whether I should put espresso on it because espresso machine is heavy, it's quite expensive to maintain and run and I would need a lot of car batteries to operate that plus some kind of gas and maybe solar panels in one just to keep it going because I wanted to do a linear mini of course and I wanted to put VA grinder on it and
Speaker: It's going to be very heavy. Yeah, first of all, heavy. Second of all, not even just the equipment, but also just to have enough water for the bruise. And then people ask me all the time, why don't you have espresso on it? I see those guys in Cardiff having their espresso machines on it.
Speaker: And I don't want to go into too many details because I just don't have time. We can be talking about the reasons why not forever. And then, obviously, in America, the first choice is always filter coffee. In the UK, the first choice is always espresso -based drinks, so flat white, latte cappuccino. And then 90 % of people in the industry, I asked, you know, what do you think? They go like, mate, don't do it.
Speaker: It's going to fall. It's going to fail. Nobody's going to buy it, man. It's filter. It's people having some association. Yeah, it's a hard sell. People associate filter coffee in the UK with this disgusting thing sitting in the office for five hours and there's just nothing else. So you just have that. So then obviously you need sugar with that. Now I don't have sugar. I don't have any syrups. I don't have anything. It's literally just a filter coffee flask.
Speaker: Brute, fresh daily, obviously. I don't have that sitting in the flask for longer than four hours, so the oxidation is not happening. It's still great and it's a good temperature, so it's not piping hot either. You're not going to burn your mouth. But some people like the extra hot drinks, right?
Speaker: Sorry, it's just not going to be for you. I'm really sorry. I don't have dairy milk. I only sell out. I don't even sell out Lee. I stock out Lee, but I don't put extra charge on the customer. I have it as an option. You can add it if you want. You're going to have as much as you want. And the cup of coffee goes to 60. There's no service charges, no delivery charge. There's nothing. It's just pure filter coffee to 60 per cup. It's eight ounce cup. I don't have any other sizes and a big cookies from home. And that's it.
Speaker: And it's a fixed price and I don't need to add, oh, would you like some milk milk? No, that's 20p more. I don't do it because I don't have any other options. So I don't want to stigmatize someone for wanting milk and it just happens to be ugly. So unfortunately, no. So I designed the business in a way that it's cheap to run. And that's why I know espresso machine because that would cost more.
Speaker: And that's why it works in terms of numbers. Because filter coffee, if it's batch brew, cost you maybe 20p per cup then. My packaging is probably more expensive than the actual cup of coffee I sell. And obviously, incorporating wastage and this is, we're talking just
Speaker: pure general profit from the actual cup of coffee when you just count the beans, how much they cost me, which is 84 .86 point coffee for the price of 82 because the guy I get coffee from, Rankin Roastery, big shout out to Rankin Roastery in the UK, Eddie, the guys helped me so much at the beginning and they're still there and Eddie believes that he doesn't want to charge
Speaker: crazy prices for the consumer, he would rather take a little bit of a hit to provide you with a better coffee, but at the better price. It was something I really stand for as well. So I decided to go with Eddie and that was the best decision ever made.
Speaker: who life is about relationships. And if we are just there focusing on the line of code 01010101, if we're just about the numbers, we're wasting a tremendous opportunity and the ocean of opportunity is right behind that line of 01 code. And the ocean is vast and is deep and there's everything what you ever need is there. But we are just keep focusing on the line of code and we don't see past that because now I use only Roundhill because and they get a lot of
Speaker: traffic for me in terms of sales because I believe in what they do and I want to support that. And we created that relationship, you know? And Eddie's a wonderful guy. He just opened a pop -up in London and is doing well as well. So worth if you are in London, go and have a look.
Speaker: So coming back to my question, coffee is people. People is, you know, we need to understand that it's all about those relationships we create. And I believe that the community spirit and the way we can come together, we can solve the word problems just by staying together in a meaningful way. And the meaningful is the key word over here. And coffee is a social glue. So of course, I'm going to go towards that.
Speaker: Well, I don't know what to say. I don't have any other questions to ask. You explain everything already. I talk a lot. When people ask me what I do, I say, I talk a lot, and then I sell coffee and cookies. So would you like some? Well, talking about cookies, you're not only selling coffee there on your bike. Also, cookies. Why cookies?
Speaker: I don't know. I think cookies are going to be a good thing. It's just going to work very well. They are probably easy to make. My father is a baker, but I have no idea about baking at all. He's a massive inspiration of mine because he is a baker for 35 years, but he's allergic to flour.
Speaker: So he's an inspiration how not to live your life. And I don't want to wake up when I'm 45 realizing that I hate doing what I do. So that's why that was another kind of realization that I've got to take a leap of faith because what I am right now, I don't particularly enjoy. And yes, I love the industry, but not the place I am right now. I love everything around that place, but not the place itself.
Speaker: So how can I move myself outside of that? But anyway, cookies. So I just felt like it's going to work and they're probably easy to make.
Speaker: And that is connected to the question of why you do it. Most companies know what they do, they know how they do it, but they've got no idea why. And that is Simon Sinek here for you. And the book starts with why. I've changed everything. And you go on YouTube and you research that. The TED Talk he gave 10 years ago, it was a massive, massive hit.
Speaker: And there's plenty of reasons why. It's relatable and it's real and this is the life. If you don't know why you do what you do, then go for it because it's probably fake and it's probably not good for you. But it's convenient, but it's easy. So we go towards those things. We tend to lean towards shortcuts instead of actually working hard towards something.
Speaker: That's why you've got to look inside and look what you actually care about. Find your identity, find your voice and follow that voice. Otherwise, you're always going to be disconnected with your surroundings, yourself, your family, your kids, your parents, the natural world as well. We're so disconnected from the food we consume, another topic for another day. But you've got to start with why.
Speaker: So I read that book and I posted about this on my Instagram. And for some reason, this bakery, some bakery in England, they reached out saying, hey, we read the same book and I've got the next one and it's amazing. What did you think? And we connected and okay, that's what social media, that's what social media is about, you know, connecting us in a meaningful way. And then we started conversation and we were going back and forth for like a year.
Speaker: And then when they followed me and I started thinking about this bike, I was like, hey, cool down a second. I remember that bakery and we were chatting and I think the Portuguese as well, and they do some amazing stuff. Maybe I can talk to them about my ideas and see what they think. And I reached out and I spoke to the lady. We had a phone call as well, you know, and then I said to her, oh, you know, I'm thinking to bake cookies as well, you know, but I have no idea about baking. So I'm just wondering, maybe you can point me in the right direction to be some resource system books or something, you know.
Speaker: And then later she just literally took a photo of their recipe of their cookies and she sent it to me. So I based my recipe of that. And without their help and without the book and the meaning of why we're here and the purpose, the cookies wouldn't happen.
Speaker: Yeah, I read the book as well, years ago, and then I'm a big fan of his YouTube channel as well. I think getting the right answer for your question, why you do certain things can help you figure out how and what, right?
Speaker: If you could ask three why, I can answer all of them. I think a lot of things will be just so easy, clear. And when you quit your job and start still coffee, you needed money. That's why you started your family. I had some savings. You had some savings. But it was the whole thing. Well, you see, I bought the EK 40, what, 43? 43, yeah. I always say 47, but it's...
Speaker: EK43, I bought it two years before I was thinking about the bike. That was the biggest expense because that is very expensive. Very expensive. I had it already and then the rest was the bike itself, much brewer, a freezer because in the summer I thought I'm going to do like flash chills, cold brew or something.
Speaker: And I had a table already, an old Ikea table, and that's it. And like bits and bobs around like a, you know, flasks and cool box inside, some bags and plastic boxes for the cookies, you know, those little things. So overall, I think I spent maybe like 6 ,000 pounds to set it up.
Speaker: It's very cheap, you know, when you think about it. Because now I know something about bikes and the new bike, you know, I needed around, you know, five and a half K with that VIT just to start thinking about the basic bike, you know, quality stuff. The bike needs to be able to
Speaker: It's not one of those when they just, it's a trade show and you just stay in one place and sell something. I need to be mobile and you move all the time. And I'm a big guy. I'm over 100 kg. So it needs to be steady. And then you have a load in the front as well. So the one I have now, obviously, is not designed to be doing what I do with it. But that's the thing, you've got to start somewhere. So I keep saying that story whenever we go towards that, I always say that life is like Lego.
Speaker: What do you mean? Well, it's not about the building blocks you want, it's about the one you have. Start building with what you have and then move on to something you want, because whatever you build with the blocks you have will get you to where you want to be. So I maybe wanted disc brakes and you know, electric assist, but I couldn't afford it. So, you know, I asked Dave, listen, this is how much money I have.
Speaker: Can you build something with it? They've said, I never build cargo bikes, but I wanted to try, so let's give it a go. He did. I appreciate his time, but it's not supposed to be doing what I do with it. That's okay, but I started. Then the community came with help and we crowdfunded over 7k in 12 days.
Speaker: for the new bike and it's going to happen in probably a month or so and it's going to be so inspiring because it's not even about the bike itself, it's about the branding around this and I'm working with the graphic designer to bring this all together.
Speaker: That's very impressive that you have all the money, one in seven K pounds within 12 days. How did it happen? You prepared the page, landing page yourself, and the video is very engaging. When I see you in the video, I'm just, wow, this is a project everybody who love coffee must support. So to ask more, how do you prepare the whole goat family?
Speaker: It was done in a very scrappy way because I knew the bike is going to break sooner or later. I already worked on it in August, six months ago. I was like, it broke after two weeks actually. The frame completely snapped. Two weeks. Two weeks, yeah. Too fast. Yeah, too fast. The guy came in and it's only because the bike was broke. The actual frame was cut almost in the half.
Speaker: to weld it closer into the actual frame where the box sits on because otherwise the pedals would hit the ground all the time and because of that the weld wasn't strong enough and it just melted the metal and because I'm a big guy when I was going to turn I put the weight on one side
Speaker: And then the frame just snapped. So I called Dave back and was like, mate, can you help here? And he came in literally next day, brought it back to the garage and welded as well as he could. But I knew it's going to happen again.
Speaker: So I was thinking about the Crowdfund already then six months ago and I wanted to originally do Kickstarter. So I was preparing some goodies you will receive after supporting me and then the bike broke. So again, I was like, well, okay, game over. I had this moment where I lost complete faith in what I'm doing. I was like, well, that's it. I can't move anymore. I can't deliver anything anymore because that's broken.
Speaker: but then i had this 15 minutes you know in the garage i sat on in front of it and i just thought about everything what i do and i came back to the why okay why why do i do this well i do it because i want to create relationships strengthen the communities and make this world a better place coffee and a cookie is just a way to get there
Speaker: So if you can't cycle, you will push it. So I pushed it. And this is where the Keep Pushing came from, which is a sticker and the poster. And I gave it away to local businesses and it doesn't have any still coffee on it. It's just pure positivity that you need to be positive and you need to keep pushing no matter what happens. That if I didn't.
Speaker: That day, if I didn't go out and actually do the deliveries, if I didn't go to the park this day and meet Khaled, which I'm eternally grateful for, Khaled, she's 72, and we have a lot of meaningful conversations. Me being in the park is one of the situations. She lives by herself and she's elderly.
Speaker: So without meetings in the park, she wouldn't really talk to many people. And that's sad. So that's another reason why I do it. I need to go out. I need to go and see Collette. I need to speak to her because otherwise she may not see a human. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker: So, I did. And then she said, well, you know what, I know Clive on Salop Street, maybe he can help, you know, because they bought garage and they fixed cars all the time. I was like, well, worth trying, you know. And I found a well there before that, and he told me £100 to roll the frame. And I was like, I've no money, man, to give you £100.
Speaker: Maybe I can scrap something somewhere, but not 100 quid right now. So, so, so I pushed it, you know, and I met Khaled. She said, go to Clive and I went to Clive and he was like, yeah, come back in two hours. I was like, okay. Came back in two hours and then, uh, um, show them, show them what's wrong. And he, he welded for me and then he didn't even ask for money. He was like, you came, asked for help. You appreciate it. And I know what you're doing. So you keep going with, with what you're doing because it's inspiring and we need that in the community.
Speaker: And he didn't even blink, you know? Just come back after two hours, you know? He didn't even know who's sending me, that his friend is sending me. He just believes in what I do or what I want to do, you know? And that was so cool, you know? And it was so meaningful. So this is what happens when you have a purpose, when you have reasons behind your existence and your business, you know? And when you find a way to touch people in this deeper level, they respond and they respond very well.
Speaker: So I didn't do much when it comes to the GoFundMe page. Everybody I've spoken to for the last seven months and it just happens that the conversations we had somehow touched them and I'm there to listen and I'm there to have those meaningful conversations with people.
Speaker: This is the crowds funding page, the seven months of work, pushing up the hill in wind and rain to deliver and to have those meaningful conversations with people. It's not even about the product anymore. It's about why you do it. And then people respond to this, you know? And then the video was just, you know, I have a friend videographer and I said to him, listen, you know, we need to put something like this together. It's gotta be inspiring. So even if you, times are hard, so even if you don't have the money, at least watch the video, maybe it will inspire you to do something meaningful, right? That's all I asked for. And that's what it is.
Speaker: And the result is 7 ,000 pounds in 12 days. It's very impressive. I just remember you talk about being real earlier and all those seven months make you a real person in the community. People know you want to just coffee and cookies. You brought so much to people. Among all those people you met during these months, is any particular conversation standing out most?
Speaker: This guy came in, so I started in between lockdowns. I started doing meetups in the park. They called Together is Better. And there was the times where we could gather up to 30 people outdoors socially distanced. So I would be in the park every Sunday, 9 to 12, three hours, I'm there. And I keep saying to people, do not buy anything.
Speaker: don't buy anything. Just come for the conversation. I'm here to listen and we're just here to have a good time. That's all it is. This guy came in and he's a little bit limping and standing with a crutches and he said,
Speaker: You know, it's great that you're doing this because otherwise I wouldn't talk to anybody today. I wouldn't see anybody. It's one of those opportunities, rare opportunities nowadays that I can actually speak to a human being. And that's a story I say to everybody all the time. So they understand that it's
Speaker: I don't really do much here, I'm just a link between people and it just happens that coffee is in the middle of all that and without coffee and that's why I appreciate the industry so much as well because without coffee we wouldn't really get together.
Speaker: Every day, we hear a lot of news from social media, TV, YouTube, most of them are bad. I just wonder, maybe we should share more stories like you as you know, that these real human connection in difficult times is stronger together. Like, like what you're doing Sunday, bring people together and give them a chance to talk to, to other people this
Speaker: That's precious. Thank you for doing this. Hey, Rob. Cheers, man. I have a bunch of stickers on my bike. And there's a row of stickers which are designed by my designer a long time before we met. And whenever I meet someone for the first time and they ask why and what am I doing or whatever, I say that story. And each sticker has got a message behind it. And the sticker goes,
Speaker: from the top is stay positive, take it easy, anxiety, and life is a gift. And they just go one, two, three, four, right? And I just pointed the sticker and I said this, you know, you have to stay positive and keep it easy because when anxiety happens with the right mindset, when I point at the stay positive sticker, you can move the mountains, you can do whatever you want, yeah? And as long as you don't hurt yourself,
Speaker: or there's what a planet you go towards that feeling because that's that's good and the life is a gift you know it's only one it's very precious so we make sure that you appreciate every single moment of it you know and and i think that's that's just so powerful and so and so meaningful and and then those stories when when you open up like this and and you say what you believe in then people starting to kind of naturally trust you
Speaker: So you don't need sugar anymore. So you don't need a lattes and cappuccinos because they just buy whatever you have because it touches them emotionally. And that's not why I say it. Why I say it is because I believe in it. But the side effect of that is that most people don't ask me for that sugar. And they ask me, okay, so what do you actually sell? And I say, well, coffee and cookies. And that's what simple things done right.
Speaker: So would you like to try? And that's it. And they go, why? I didn't know coffee can taste that way. And I was like, I know. I know. So I actually don't even look with it as I know. But it's all about opening your mind. I was just so close minded. And it's not our fault as well. It's just the system and the pressures of the society and
Speaker: work and kids and, you know, like, why am I gonna eat today? Am I cooking something? What's going on? Stay home, homeschooling? What? You know, there's just so much going on. It's not people's fault that, you know, they come into the coffee shops and they ask for extra hot skinny flat whites, you know, or lattice. It's the staple of it. You know, it's not their fault. It's this, this, this certain
Speaker: I don't know a system and the pressures that we're longing towards something we know and we're longing towards something we've tried before because that's a safe bet. So, you know, if you spend your hard earned three pounds or whatever that may be somewhere else, you know what you're getting. That's why mainstream industry is thriving because at least they know what they're getting, you know? So, when I have filter coffee and the cookies, they're like, what is that about? But when I tell them all those stories, they're like,
Speaker: man, whatever, just whatever you sell, I take it. And that's what you're missing in the hospitality industry. We have tremendous opportunity now to make this world a better place in the meaningful way. And everybody needs to find out how to do that. And if you know why you do it, then it's going to be probably easy. I mean, it's going to be hard because you're going to be going against the current. But that's just life, isn't it?
Speaker: Thanks for sharing so much. I think this conversation is a super deep, deeper than I expected. I have to say I learned a lot asking the right questions. Why? And then be real. That is important and find a place to fix a problem. You think it should be fixed and do whatever it can. Keep trying. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody, everybody, if you sit down and you really think about, you know,
Speaker: what's around you. There's so many problems need to be fixed and every good business is fixing some kind of problem and copying and pasting. I love working behind the coffee machine. I love the whole aspect of a coffee shop and aprons and glasses. I love it. Fine. Cool. You love being a barista. Yeah, exactly. But I'm not a barista anymore.
Speaker: Wait, do you consider yourself a barista right now? I don't know. I think more actually psychologists than a barista, which is really funny. Where can we find you if you want to have a deep conversation with you? Yeah, well, Instagram is the place probably. If you want to read more about what I do, Stole Coffee Co. UK, so S -D -O -L, S -D -O -L, coffee .co .uk.
Speaker: So where can people meet you in real life? Well, I'm based in Penarth, Wales, which is the United Kingdom. And Penarth, Wales, and I cycle around Penarth, you know, and I'm usually in the park. Before we finish the conversation today, Peter, is there anything else you want to share with us? Yeah. Follow your passion, man. Follow your dream. And as long as you don't hurt yourself or others or a planet in the process of doing so, take a leap of faith and just do it.
Speaker: I take it. Yeah, you take that. Yeah, I'm gonna go back to kids. Yeah. Thank you for today. Thanks, man. See you soon.
Speaker: Talking to Peter makes me realize that when we talk about coffee, it is always fascinating to talk about the boring twos or coffee beans are drinking. That's also pay more attention to the people behind the cups. Coffee is not just a drink. Coffee means people. Just like Peter said, it's the glue that brings people together.
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