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Episode 178 - The Malting Hour Presents "An Evening With Matthew and Tony: Part 2"
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This week Matthew and Tony sit down face to face with one mic and try to put together an entire show together without their better third Brandon, who was on vacation.
Beers on this episode:
Old Irviing Brewing - Sir Reginald
White Oak Brewing - Column Like I See'Em
Hopewell Brewing - Mezi
Maplewood Brewing - Cuppa Origins Columbia
Old Irving Brewing - Crikey!
Theme music and outro music provided by @FluidMinds
Check out all our episodes at www.themaltinghour.com
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Transcript
Introduction and Setting
00:00:10
Speaker
And welcome to another edition of an evening with Matthew and Tony. I'm one of your hosts, Tony Gullick, joined with Matthew Lohauer as we continue to hope you broke eye contact.
00:00:25
Speaker
was looking at your suffering You broke eye contact. We're picking up right where we left off last time.
Supply Chain Challenges
00:00:33
Speaker
Yeah. Well, you know, NPR. Brandon's on vacation, so we decided to do another one of these together here in my dining room.
00:00:42
Speaker
Thank you for coming to my place again. One of these days. One of these days. One of these days. Oh, by the way, your calendar was up originally until my mother sent me that one. It's all horror stuff.
00:00:55
Speaker
The Billy Goat one. Sorry. Wow. Yeah. Anyways, Matthew, how are you? It's been a long week. Yeah. You sent me a message.
00:01:06
Speaker
you You got beat up? Who beat you up? Who hurt you? Everybody. Beer. Yeast. Hops. No, think the hops did okay.
00:01:17
Speaker
Grain? Yeah. to Grain being not delayed by like a week and a half. Weesh. bummer yeah apparently they let go of of their employees and our order just hung in limbo until we were like where's our order and they're like what uh oh no and then they said they've expedited like last friday and it didn't come in until yesterday afternoon how backed up were you because of it well because of other things it's now like
00:01:49
Speaker
One beer that was supposed to be brewed two weeks ago is going to be brewed next week. Oh. One beer that was supposed to be brewed this week is next week. Yeah. it So the brewers are busy next week.
00:02:01
Speaker
Yeah. Which, luckily, they weren't as much, but we're also getting... i was trying to have... We're really busy at the pub doing all the turns for till death so it can sit in tanks. Oh. Because someone's coming out, and we you know that's the next lager.
00:02:21
Speaker
28 months later. Ah, yes. This episode was brought to you Old Erving. Unofficially. You know what's funny? When you're like, oh, I have a whole bunch of beer, I'm like, it'll probably just be an Old Erving episode, kind of. But it's not. There's there's other beers we're going to have. I brought still plenty of fun beers. I know. I just love talking about the Old Erving stuff.
00:02:40
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it's on you that it's not official. We could make it official. I mean, at some point, yeah. But you guys already have a dedicated... long episode, which we love the Krampus episodes each year.
00:02:57
Speaker
Yeah. Don't you want just the in the middle brought to you by Old Irving Brewing? mean, yeah, we can. What does that mean? guys an actual sponsor? I mean, kind of you are. mean, you do supply a lot of beer for the podcast. Yeah.
00:03:14
Speaker
Whether it's on the show or what we're drinking on the side. But today we're drinking Gour's Light. Yeah, that's a little side roadie. Especially with the big boy here at the end. Yeah, im I'm very excited about that. You did bring a lot of fun beers. And there is one Old Irving beer in there that I'm excited for. um Okay, well, it sounds like you've been pretty busy.
00:03:36
Speaker
Yeah, and then... Wait, so the 28 months later. That I'm excited about. Yeah. is that So that's being released during Della Days?
Creative Beer Releases
00:03:43
Speaker
Yes, the pickup will be on Della Days, and the launch on Osner will be the Thursday before, which will be April 2nd. So this Thursday?
00:03:55
Speaker
Yes. Yes. Depending on when you release things. Today is March thirtyeth Well, it now when got messed up the last episode, the last after the final pour I posted because i was it gave me an error. And I'm like, okay, that's fine. And then in the middle of the day, Brandon was like, I see like three episodes with nothing and nothing posted. i was like, shit.
00:04:18
Speaker
So I just went in there and changed it. was was able to post it. Thanks. Okay, so that's exciting. We'll be on. Is there two packs? Yeah, two packs. Getting a little bit of a conniption just because we were going to package it this week to have plenty of time, but Trevor's went on vacation this week.
00:04:34
Speaker
I saw that. And I like making sure, Trevor too, that he's there to taste all of the barely stuff to make sure that everything is to the highest standard.
00:04:44
Speaker
Can you tell us more about 28 months later? Well, there's no s'mores. I really need Brandon here for some of these things. um Yeah.
00:04:56
Speaker
So 28 months later is beer that I named that Trevor let me get away with because as we were looking at doing Della Days and doing different barrel-age releases, when looking at everything that we had we were also looking at like the rev barley carn that we have sitting in barrels and everyone tried it but they're like oh we just want a little bit more time and i was like well we have that
Movie Talk
00:05:18
Speaker
and i kind of looked at deli days when i was planning it and was april april from when we brewed this that'd be 28 months 28 months later they have a 28 day 28 weeks 28 years later but they never made a 28 month you're filling in the gap and so we're filling in the gap uh tim made the most badass label yeah i saw it that is like spot on the logo are you guys gonna get sued
00:05:41
Speaker
You can't copyright 28 or months or later. In the biohazard? Well, that's... Biohazard, there's like public domain biohazard signs. Is that the one you use?
00:05:55
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. yeah Everything Tim did was public domain. And graphic designs are like... It'll look super cool. Yeah, he's a graphic designer. He just happens to make things that might resemble something else. i will grab my two-pack, and then that's when I'll finally watch 28 Years Later.
00:06:14
Speaker
Oh, you haven't seen 28 Years Later? No. So you haven't seen The Boneyard either? No, I haven't. Oh, Bone Temple. Yeah. Yeah, definitely watch that. we reg Virginia and i went to a movie. forgot what it was, but they, i think, was we've been doing this thing with AMC where it's called Scream Unseen.
00:06:31
Speaker
So you go to the movie, and they do another thing called Scene Unseen, where you go to an AMC theater, pay like $6.25 for a ticket. You have no idea what movie you're seeing. We go to the horror ones, because there's ones like, this is rated R. This is rated pg three And you don't know what you're seeing until you go to the movies. I think when you saw, was it Primal? Primate?
00:06:51
Speaker
The one going recently about with the killer monkey. yeah It was pretty fun. i also found out that it was an actual person dressed in a monkey suit. Yeah, c j it's CGI. It's a fun movie. There's potholes, but if you like fun horror movies, that's that's a fun one. But I think the Bone Temple trailer, either for that or I think maybe when we saw Sinners.
00:07:15
Speaker
That trailer came up, and all i did was look down, and she's like, what are you doing? I'm like, i can't watch this trailer because I haven't watched 28 years later yet. yeah I don't want to know what's going on. And there definitely is some... like If you know or see the trailer or start the movie of Bone Temple, you definitely will have some of the 28 years later given away. Yeah, I don't want to know any of it. still don't know what's going on in there, but I need to watch that soon. I might do that this weekend because I no plans. Brought to you by AMC, which I will actually say i Of all the movie theaters, in support of them. Did you see the, um, one of the companies that does all the, like, the movie trailers and all the front stuff? Yes. They... An AI movie? Yeah. And the AMC said, no way. Yep. Yep. so I like that. Good on AMC.
00:07:58
Speaker
Now, we just saw They Will Kill You on Monday. Jesus. Yeah. AMC Will Kill You? No, no. The movie's called They Will Kill You. Uh, if anybody wants to know, it's...
00:08:10
Speaker
dubbed as a horror movie but it's more like a gory action movie that has a horror underlying theme like like kill bill meets a horror movie kind of all right it's pretty good it was fun i'm still waiting for kill bill volume three it's never gonna happen i think that uh is this the movie hour now yeah yeah i mean we're gonna
00:08:38
Speaker
yeah we talk about and to talk
Beer Techniques and Collaborations
00:08:40
Speaker
about movies a lot Yeah. What were you about saying? Who's the director? Quentin Tarantino. Yeah. I mean, he's he's talked about it in the past that he's waiting until the kid from who she murders... In the beginning. In the beginning becomes of age and tries to get revenge and then go back to Uma Thurman when she's, like, older and have Kill Bill Volume 3.
00:09:01
Speaker
I mean, it's a great idea, but don't think we're gonna see it. I mean, I really hope so, because Quentin Tarantino also seems pretty adamant that he's like, I'm only doing however many movies in his life. I think he's doing one more, and that's it.
00:09:16
Speaker
And he already has an idea, but then i don't know if that's still happening. <unk>ll build of volume there it's got it Did you see Kill Bill, The Whole Bloody Affair?
00:09:25
Speaker
It's the... both movies as one full movie, and they added ah parts to the... or any she animation and no virginia and i went and saw it there's a 15 minute intermission but we watched both movies back to back at amc that does sound fun it was awesome it's on apple tv now i think yeah i don't have apple tv i also gave up like a ton of streaming services so that was like my january 1st was like cutting out a bunch of chaff i think we paid
00:10:02
Speaker
Amazon Prime because I still give money to Jeff Bezos. Yeah, I just canceled that one like two months ago after we finished watching Fall Out. I've not watched the second season yet. Yeah, it's fun. I think a lot of people didn't like it, but to me the first one is yes, they obviously no one played the video games and they pay homage to this. The second actually like builds more of a story and background of The ghoul the history and some other fun stuff. And it's so like it moves a little bit slower to begin with. And it's also New Vegas. Exactly.
00:10:36
Speaker
Which is everyone but me, everyone's favorite game. I did like New Vegas. I will say my favorite part, and it's not giving me anything away, is when you get to the death clause. Oh,
00:10:49
Speaker
Thank God. I've been waiting for the death clause. I keep going back to playing Fallout 4. Fallout 3 is still my favorite. Never. Fallout 3 is where I started. well Yeah, Fallout 3, that was just PC, right? No, Fallout 1 and 2 were just PC. Fallout 3 was the first one that came to consoles.
00:11:09
Speaker
Oh, okay, then I played 3. Yeah, 3's a lot of fun. And they're talking, I mean, there's rumors of a remaster of that in New Vegas. Yeah, my my issue with the open world games is just... It's too much.
00:11:21
Speaker
And then I get lost and then... That's why i started a new game of Red Dead... Redemption. Because... this is why you're not hanging out anymore?
00:11:31
Speaker
No, no, it's the Wii. I mean, it's the Switch. We just bowl our asses off. And we've got Mario Party, and then Super Mario U, which was a port over from the Wii Okay.
00:11:46
Speaker
But no Smash Bros.? Not yet. I do like Mario Party. i have that too. Mario Party Jamboree? Yes. Yeah, it's fun. We get so mad at the princesses because they're the bad guys in those games, no matter what stage you play.
00:12:02
Speaker
So, yeah, we're talking about old games now that the Switch 2 is out, and I finally got a Switch. Yeah, maybe in five years I'll get a Switch 2. Eh, maybe. The only game, what was the one that you showed me with all the Dracula and different things?
00:12:17
Speaker
Oh,
00:12:20
Speaker
oh, jeez, vampire something. That was kind of, I was looking at, because have you heard of Slay the Spire? No. I think you would like Slay the Spire. It's kind of a game where, again, you never really beat it. You just get to a point when you died, but then, like that game, you're building up your traits and whatever else.
00:12:39
Speaker
And I was a i heard about how great Slay the Spire 2 is, and then I was like, oh, it's only on Steam. And then they're like, eventually, like, Switch 2, and I was like, well. Yeah. Yeah, I just went back to the original Dying Light game on my Xbox Series X. Because I beat that. used to have a physical copy of it. i Don't know where that's at anymore.
00:12:58
Speaker
But this had like all the DLC and extra stuff. And I was like, great. So I've been playing that, too. I love that game. Dying Light's fun. Yeah. Parkour. Parkour. I spent too much time playing Magic the Gathering. All right, so... What we start with?
00:13:16
Speaker
Do we want to go lightest and then upwards? Yeah. Alright, well then we are starting with Old Ergon. Oh, look at that. well And here it is. everyone it been waiting for. Matthews, crack open and pour.
00:13:37
Speaker
That's part of it, I get to pour my own beer so I don't have fucking four inches head.
00:13:44
Speaker
So what we have here is our collab with... Dirty glass. Dishwasher sucks.
Beer Naming and Marketing
00:13:52
Speaker
So do you. What the hell?
00:13:56
Speaker
No one knows. This is our collab with Beer and Belly, which we've done... and Honey Pie. And Honey Pie. Kyle... Beer Burgers Pie Edgewater, Sixth Anniversary Lager, Burgers Pie. Yep. Their 60th anniversary is 420.
00:14:11
Speaker
Blaze it, blaing everybody. So go there. They make all of their own baked goods in-house. They make their own sausage in-house. They do amazing stuff. They have these pickled eggs with Frank's Red Hot. It's one of the best eggs.
00:14:28
Speaker
And then they, like, I don't know if they devil it or what they do, but they make some kind of... Something. Yeah, on top of it. And it's so fucking good. I've never had a pickled egg.
00:14:39
Speaker
I hadn't really either, but like in Frank's Red Hat, it is delicious. This is at Beard and Belly? This is yeah. how how does so How does Honey Pie fit into this? Same company. Oh. So Beard and Belly does all of the like burgers and sausage and other things. Honey Pie is there. They do pies. Oh.
00:15:01
Speaker
It's a beautiful color. Yeah. It's a Czech Pilsner. Czech Pilsner. It is called Sir Reginald. Sir Reginald is their mascot, which is a gentlemanly pig. He's very sophisticated looking.
00:15:16
Speaker
He has a model and a top hat. is He is delightful. Have you met him? Yes. Oh. He talks.
00:15:27
Speaker
That's how he talks? Yeah, he's judgmental. One might say he might also be porkly. It is a beautiful looking beer. Nice and clear.
00:15:39
Speaker
can see my fingers right through the glass. The smell is like the aroma, I should say. It's like bready and only word I can think of. this And this is probably the wrong word.
00:15:51
Speaker
Pungent in a way. What am I smelling, Matthew? Probably. Hops? Noble hops? Are there noble hops in them? Yeah. i mean, it's noble hops, but you're probably just getting more of the grain. Yeah. um It's really good. Yeah. Chuck style pills. It's definitely... We also... I'll fight the water a little bit just to be softer.
00:16:11
Speaker
So you have that beautiful, easy drinking. But that's why, especially with the hops, you don't get, like... those German noble hops with like hard minerality that has almost that like very, I like it, but it's a crisp, sharp bite.
00:16:26
Speaker
this is This is not heaven. This is like an easy drinking yeah beer. Yeah. And so this will just be at the pub and at Beer and Belly. It's funny, like the bitter, like it's a very light bitterness, which I feel like was good going from the Coors Light to this.
00:16:45
Speaker
Yeah, we're just stepping in it. up One step up. Nice. Yeah, you know, the one afterwards, that's where I was like, I like it. Oh, I actually thought this was going to be kind of like a dojier or like Westie Pills. Nope, this is just an American lager. Never mind. After that, it a Czech-style amber.
00:17:04
Speaker
Yeah. This guy doesn't care about hops. Why they hoppy? don't think Got whole bunch of voodoo rangers in the fridge. Well... It's funny, because had I gone to Beer on the Wall, and which I still might do next week, there are some collaborations with Hop Butcher and... think Moore and... No, i think Hop Butcher and Microphone did something, possibly?
00:17:26
Speaker
Or is it Moore Hop Butcher? thought it was Moore. Yeah, Moore and Hop Butcher did something. ah We got the... Wait. No, we got the beat. Something Hop song-related. Heart replaced... Hop replaced Heart.
00:17:40
Speaker
And then... I think Hot Butcher did something with Sierra in a bad mood. Somebody? Oh, boy. Man. Now I've got to look it up. Keep talking about this beer for a second. Well, I know that Moore also did the collab recently with um umpire Empire. 588. 2-300.
00:17:59
Speaker
five q three hundred Yeah, I wanted to get that beer. I don't think it's available anymore at Beer on the Wall. Yeah, I mean, this is the second time they've done it. Well, it's the first time I... Look, you know, as much as I like beer, I pass up a lot of stuff. Oh, Total Eclipse of the Hop, by the way, is Hop Butcher and Microphone.
00:18:15
Speaker
Yeah, Total Eclipse of the Hop. More in Maplewood did Old Drippy.
00:18:22
Speaker
I'm pretty sure. That's what we call Tony after a long night of drinking and waking up. Oh, drippy. I thought Hot Butcher did something else. Hold on. like I gotta see this. Hot Butcher for the world? or Yeah, Hot Butcher for the world. Oh, Dogfish Head. That's what it was.
00:18:39
Speaker
Which, I wanted to try that. Samuel Adams. Yeah, Hot Butcher and Dogfish Head. Square in a circle. a Square in a circle in a square. fun Citra, anchovy, and crush hopped IPA.
00:18:53
Speaker
Anchovy? Is there really anchovies in there? Or is it? Anchovy hop? Is there a hop called anchovy? I don't me don't know that one. You know what? This is where we call on our friend, the internet. All right, call up Brandon in the middle of the vacation. Is there a hop by the name of anchovy?
00:19:09
Speaker
Wait, is there a hop by the name of anchovy? Using AI? Yeah. That's we use now. All right. This is when cancel Tony. Sorry. Anthony. Yeah. Yes.
00:19:19
Speaker
Actually, is. Despite the name, Anchovy Hobbs er have absolutely nothing to do with fish. It's experimental variety, originally labeled 24B-05, developed by Seagal Ranch in the Yakima Valley.
00:19:32
Speaker
The name was a bit of a joke by the brewers at Fast Fashion Brewing in Seattle. We're the first to sponsor and brew with it. Yeah, and this what... They were making a beer called Hot Pizza and thought anchovy would be the most ridiculous topping and and to name the hop after.
00:19:48
Speaker
Yep, and this is why you don't let brewers do marketing things. Now, this this hop sounds good, and you're the If you're expecting salt or umami, you'll be surprised.
00:19:59
Speaker
No, we won't. It's a hop. It is known for being very fruit-forward and candy-like, in quotes. Common tasting notes are, Watermelon, Jolly Rancher, the most frequent comparison, which is very interesting. Raspberry, pine, citrus, specifically grapefruit or lime zest.
00:20:15
Speaker
Okay. Okay. I'll be honest. By the way, it's dual purple hops.
Beer Reviews and Taproom Insights
00:20:19
Speaker
Even if we use this hop, this would be one of the ones where I'm like, please do not list that hop. Like maybe deep in a page where someone wants to find it. But anyone who you know just wants to know a little bit about the beer and they see anchovy and then doesn't take the next step of what is this or what kind of thing. you should put anchovy hop.
00:20:38
Speaker
Even anchovy hop, I would immediately think, I'm like, okay, yeah, is this kind of like a a salty, rich, umami kind of hop? Could you still use the experimental descriptor, the HB24-03, which... Yeah, I mean, i don't know if I forget what the new name of HBC586 is, but that's what we... Like, when we were using... When we were using hop, like... Oh, it's when were using that hob like it's twenty four b o five i was close.
00:21:05
Speaker
don't know if I was close. don't even remember what said. We're still doing that. let's Let's move on to the next one here. Okay. White Oak Brewing. Welcome back, White Oak. um Did you get this in?
00:21:18
Speaker
Like I... Call like I'm seeing. Yeah. Call them. Call See them. Yeah, they... Call like I see. Okay, so spelling's not the... I mean, it's a play on. column Call them like I see them.
00:21:33
Speaker
Call it like I see it. Yeah, yeah. But are those actual words that they put on? No. So they just wrote gibberish. Yeah, I mean, that's okay. Yeah, I do like gibberish though. wonder, is there anything we know about this beer?
00:21:47
Speaker
I did see that they listed the artist on there, which I always appreciate. me see if can look this up real quick. This is their artist edition. Some Sexy Artist. oh Okay, I do like that. This is an American lager, 4.8%.
00:22:03
Speaker
four point eight percent
00:22:07
Speaker
And, yeah. it's a This is what it says. a well-balanced light lager designed to be perfect for any reason, featuring crisp malty notes and a clean finish. Great. Yep. It does look crisp and clean. way to go, Andrew Sachs.
00:22:23
Speaker
Your artwork.
00:22:26
Speaker
Sorry about the background noise. We are in my dining room, and there are things happening all around. Yeah, is that your heater? It's the beer freezer. There's a beer fridge. It makes weird noises like that.
00:22:39
Speaker
Should it? Probably not. Ooh. This is tasty. Yeah, this is that little bit more zippy. Yeah. Sounds like the refrigerator's gonna explode.
00:22:50
Speaker
It's not. It'll stop. Every now and then it goes... Jesus.
00:22:57
Speaker
Did you try unplugging it and replugging it back in? No. It was free, too, so... Also, there's an old Irving six-tool in there still. Yeah. You need to come and get it swapped out. I know.
00:23:09
Speaker
Maybe Della Days. Maybe. Fill it up with Della. How fresh is Della going to be on Della Days? Well, we just filled it up, like, yesterday. So it's going to be... Like a week.
00:23:24
Speaker
Two weeks a week. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Della, we we basically go through all 15 barrels, like, every four weeks. We go through a lot of Della. I can see that. um And having a cagodella, when I got it for Thanksgiving, I wasn't sure how fast we were going to go through it. As you know, the next day. in a day.
00:23:44
Speaker
We went through it in a day. And then... I had the last one. Twelve beers after, I think, was what were there. so Yeah, me and you finished it right when we decided to have So close for me to have to do. What was what did you have to do? Another shot. A shot, it yeah.
00:24:02
Speaker
That was me. There was a lot of shots. ah No, during Della Days, I think we're actually going to set up our jockey box with an extra extra kegs of Della so that we can pour and sell Della in multiple areas. fun. Yeah.
00:24:15
Speaker
yeah I will be there on the first day, but at 7 o'clock, probably. I will hopefully still be standing Maybe. Or on your way home.
00:24:28
Speaker
You're to drive me home? Who's going to drive me home tonight? The Cars. Yeah. The Deftones did a great cover of that song. Yeah, that one I might actually Uber that day. That's good idea. Yeah.
00:24:42
Speaker
Then you should stick around until we get there. Then have a beer and be like, all right, bye. I did a wave with my hand. You can't really do visual things for a podcast.
00:24:54
Speaker
I mean, you can, but you just got to be really descriptive. So Tony raised his hand. Two fingers. ooh To the left, I was like, bye-bye. That is too sexual. Dude, don't make it that way. Don't use your fingers in that way.
00:25:09
Speaker
Hand out there. Full hand. Hand? Ooh. Now it's me waving. What it's just one go? Boom. Now it's not sexual. It's get the fuck out. four Two, I feel like it's like, hey, pal.
00:25:22
Speaker
See ya. Three, then I think we're... I think... Hey. What we are we doing? You know? This beer's delicious. Sorry, you're just making me think of awful... Uh...
00:25:38
Speaker
Joke that someone told me. Oh, let's hear it. Is it is it is it appropriate for this podcast specifically? For this podcast, yes. right. Am I going to have to edit it out? Mayhaps.
00:25:49
Speaker
Mayhaps? Mayhaps. What is mayhaps? Maybe, perhaps? Per chance. Mayhaps, don't make... That's not a thing. Sir Reginald said it one day. Well, I have a little less respect for Sir Reginald.
00:26:01
Speaker
Oh. Have a conversation with him. Not for the beer. Beer's delicious. Now, will say this. I think... This is... doesn't have more of a zip to me.
00:26:15
Speaker
Aromawise, maybe?
00:26:19
Speaker
don't know. Let me go back.
00:26:24
Speaker
No, it does, but not by much. Like, this is also still very light and, like, easy to drink. Yeah. i think And maybe like my little zip is because the water profile is softer on a check pills, I think it just has that like soft finish on the back palate. I think if this was closer to the ABV of Sir Reginald, I would pick up a little bit more. ah Both are very smooth and easy drinking.
00:26:54
Speaker
Oh yeah. Smooth and easy.
00:27:01
Speaker
Cracking myself up over here. i see that. I'm trying to figure out what the name of the next one is. Mezzy? Is that an I? Yeah. I thought that No.
00:27:15
Speaker
If that's the case, then was it E-W-E-N-E? E-W-M-I? E-W-N-H? When? You're an E-W-E-N-E.
00:27:28
Speaker
Got an e-weenie. Brought to you by ai How many um columns would you give this one? Also, thanks for bringing White Oak back on to the podcast.
00:27:40
Speaker
Yeah. Well, thank you for dropping off some beer, White Oak. We'll do a White Oak. Is this a submitted beer? Or they just dropped off a beer like as a thank you? Is this a thank you beer? yes but i would hope that they out to actually submit it to sure but also kind of a slap in the face to the other theyre like this beer wasn't good enough to submit but it's good enough to give away that i wouldn't look at it that way and be like oh hey we just like we like this beer but also we're not submitting it but we want to give to you guys because we like it and you know yeah i mean look but i make songs i make songs where i'm like oh i really like this song but there's other songs like i made this for me yeah
00:28:18
Speaker
And you submit them all to the Grammys. Yeah. That's how you do it, right? don't care about the Grammys. I make all my albums for myself. Which, by the way, my new P is out. It's called Trailer EP. Parentheses themed. V-I-I. Available on all streaming platforms.
00:28:34
Speaker
Yay! Plug my message. Thanks, man. Asa Phelps. Yeah. In case people didn't know Anthony. Well, I mean, Asa Phelps is what I use for all my stuff. don't know who Asif Helps is, watch The Simpsons work.
00:28:49
Speaker
Not you, the listener. That's how we get more listeners. How many columns are you giving this one? This one's, like so i think, a solid three, eight to four. Yeah, I'm there with you. I think going to have solid four on this. It's really good. I would, if this was something like, do they have, you know, does White Oak have a tab room?
00:29:10
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I don't know. if they If they did, and this was something they had on tap on the regs or something like this, it would be one that I would definitely order. Or if it's like, you a seasonal type beer, would look forward to it being released.
00:29:27
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It does look like they have a beautiful space. Matthew has brought up White Oak Brewing. We're looking at pictures on Gouvelet. Yep, I would say they have one because there's a flight. in Yeah, all outdoors. And bartenders love nothing more than boring flights.
00:29:45
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Yeah. Now look, I think a flight is a great way to get introduced to a brewery when you are there for the first time. Unless you really know what you want to drink, you know.
00:29:59
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I'm sorry flights are a bummer for bartenders and servers sometimes, but it really does help the business. Yeah, it is it's one of my favorite things to do is order a flight, get four different beers.
00:30:11
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I try not just to do styles that I know that I will, as long as, this is one of those styles I'd say, like, it's a lager, it's hard, as long as there's no off flavors, which there aren't. They did it very well. Yeah.
00:30:23
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But that also being said, it's going to really hard to just be like, oh my God, this American lager is... But also you know what you like. Exactly. Yeah. And so that's why I was like, solid 384. But this isn't something I would put in a... You're saying 3.84 or 382 to 4, like dash 4. I was saying to 4, but now I like 384. 3.14159. We're past that. Did you have any plan for Pi Day? No. Missed out.
00:30:48
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did you have any pi for bad day no missed out air But my point being, I would not have an American lager on my flight because I pretty much know exactly what it's going to be. But see, if it was a brewery I'd never been to, I might throw it in there because I want to see how well they do that. And say I have an IPA, pale ale, porter, and a lager, and out of all those beers, the lager is my favorite.
00:31:14
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I'm going order a full pint of the lager. It's kind of a taste test, you know? A lot of hazies, cream ale, some barley wine. Cream ale?
00:31:25
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ah IPL hops on 66. I wish there was more cream ales available. Ooh, and they do have a mild on cask. Hey, that's right up your alley. Yes. Because they do have a mild, but it is an adjunct in mild, which I was like, okay. Okay.
00:31:45
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I was like, maybe, maybe not. i mean, can try anything, I guess. Yeah. Speaking of trying anything, let's try and take a break. We'll be right back.
00:31:59
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Welcome back, everybody, to an evening with Matthew and Anthony, part two, brought to you by the Malting Hour. Also, my refrigerator behind me has stopped buzzing, and I don't know how long it was happening...
00:32:14
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During the last segment, but at least it's done now. Well, you can listen back. Yeah, I'm going to have to. yeah now both second. Get it, everybody? Because we're drinking beer. Speaking of drinking beer. now a cocaine shit.
00:32:28
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Do you pass on? Not anymore.
00:32:34
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We don't support drug use here on the multi-hour unless it's psychedelics and marijuana. And whatever Tony takes to make AI songs. You're a musician. Yeah.
00:32:44
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I don't make AI songs all the time. It's just a couple that I made for the podcast. I want you do something for After the Final Four. Something really... My cousin Kevin and his wife when did did the the actual intro. All right. They did that. And now you can the outro. Yeah, but it's our regular bumper.
00:33:03
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Which, for some reason, there's like reverb on my by recording, my vocals. Which is weird. Explain what that is. Reverb. It sounds like I'm in a church where it just kind of reverberates and it bounces off everything. So i don't know how that happened, but it's there. Sounds cool.
00:33:24
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Not really. What are we drinking next, buddy? We are drinking Hopewell's Mezzi. Czech-style amber lager. It's M-E-Z-I, everybody. He was wrong the way he was reading it. You want me to read the description?
00:33:38
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I like E-W-N-H. How would you pronounce that? you mean i think it would be E-W-N. E-W-N. in Oh yeah, it is going E-W-N. This is Czech-style amber lager.
00:33:56
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Go and pour first, then I'll read. No, get into it.
00:34:02
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what it sounded like during the break when I was in the bathroom. Czech-style amber lager. It's 5% ABV. It is a malt-forward full-bodied amber lager brewed in the Czech tradition of polo... I'd have to see it again. P-O-L-O...
00:34:21
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t m a v y go look There you go. AKA Half Dark. This beer balances notes of rich toffee and dark caramel with the ease and zip of a pale lager, situating itself as a complex yet easy-to-drink option for all to enjoy.
00:34:37
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I'll tell you, Matthew, recently I've realized how much Hopel beers I've come to really enjoy. I'm very excited about this. Like, they're pale ales. They're...
00:34:48
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Japanese dry lager was very good. Little Buddy was really good. Little Buddy's very good. I'm pretty sure there's some like IPAs I've tried for them, but they're that dry Japanese lager is it's called Shark.
00:35:03
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It's based. I mean, the image is of the old VHS cassettes, and that's very good. I know I've had some of their other Beer is like a sour too. That's crazy. I'm trying to look at what... No no more pictures? I'm not going to see more pictures. Going places, they're bright-eyed. Ride or die is their pale ale. That is really, really good. That's a good name too. Yeah, it's it's very good. um Ooh, shift beer. That makes sense. Industry lager. They actually called it industry lager.
00:35:34
Speaker
Okay, we get it. Not all of us are in the industry though. i wonder if industry ales has any issues with that. light Light Beam Hazy IPA. Never tried that. But their Pills is really good. Virginia enjoyed that one immensely. So, alright. Let's give this a try. the It is definitely an amber beer. Yeah. And you know me. I love ambers and brown ales, baby. But I do love, like, it is that amber hue, but it is still crystal. Like, you can see through that.
00:36:00
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That is a clean looking beer. This is delicious. Yeah, I like this a lot. I could drink a lot. This is me and you. Because I know you like milds, and this is like, you know, ambers and browns, those all kind of teeter in the same area of like... Yeah, I want something that's like 5% and under, just with like these types of flavors. When they said the toffee, I was like, ah, yes. I'm going to like this. going to like it a lot. Yeah, this is is my wheelhouse. I wish more breweries did ambers and brown ales and milds.
Brewing Styles and Competitions
00:36:36
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God, they're so good. Yeah, we are actually talking because Beer Temple apparently does a mild contest in March versus a Philadelphia brewery attack room in somewhere else, and they just won how many pints they sold in March. How many pints?
00:36:54
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Pints? and Yeah, what happened there? I don't know. Is your brain resetting? Maybe. Dude, after this week, I would not be surprised. Fair enough.
00:37:05
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But they sold over 1,000 pints of mild. He's a lot. And it's the competition versus the Philadelphia place and another one. And... The Philadelphia came in second place, and it was like 600 pints. Jeez Louise. Yeah, so I was like, huh, I always release the English Mild.
00:37:22
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Well, October, because my birthday, but... Maybe, yeah. Have you guys done a Brown Ale? We have. The last one we did was Refuge. Pretty sure I had that.
00:37:33
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Yeah. I did. I did. Yeah. Brown Ale with pecans. I personally liked it. Just without. Without. Yeah. And clean. but I think that's how felt about it. That's fun. I mean, it's like when, what is it?
00:37:47
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Maplewood does brownie points. Yep. And they add vanilla to the brown ale. I love brownie points. Brownie points is really good. i also would just love brownie points without the vanilla. The only brown ale I've really loved that hadn had an adjunct in it was Aleman Soulman. Wait, I thought Soulman had... No.
00:38:08
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I'm thinking of about the one they did with coffee. Yeah. Yeah. So I was there. Yeah. sell but hard Caramel. Caramel. Yeah. They did it in the boil. So like they just use it as sugar that was right. You know, I miss the almond.
00:38:21
Speaker
Yeah. We that one year, Brandon and i rushed. I think Clark May was on the episode to rush to do a or last minute had a Halloween episode and all the pumpkin beers were gone. It was like pumpkin beers weren't sitting on the shelf because they all came out early and everybody bought them and they were all gone, which is different now. So we were like, OK, well, we got to find like things that we can do. And I saw that and i was like, oh, there's candy in involved.
00:38:49
Speaker
Soulmate was so good. It's such a great beer. Yeah, it wasn't sweet. noja but it had it gave just like that little bit of texture on the back end Ailman made great beers, and I am so sad they don't exist anymore.
00:39:02
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They were a great brewery. Their IPA was so good. Yeah. Maybe one day. you know something I don't know? No, I still know both both the guys. Yeah, they're great. around We did Brandon's wedding beer there.
00:39:15
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And we have a really funny... i don't know if that was... When we did the episode with him, I'd have to go back and look for it. But we did it in the brewery while they were brewing that day.
00:39:27
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It was so loud and it might have been during the pandemic. I think there were some masks involved. um Nope, I cannot find it.
00:39:42
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Dang it. But those guys were were we great. And yeah, i'm I'm glad you brought that up because that was one of the beers from them I really love. And that's like a great example of a really good brown ale.
00:39:55
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Yeah, that doesn't necessarily have to just be brown ale. By the way it's episode 37, everybody. And it was in 2020. So yeah, I think some of us wearing masks, some of us would take off our masks to talk and then put them back up. You didn't you just put a straw through your mask?
00:40:12
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How would that help us talking? corn laptop out now that add up These are the times I miss Brandon.
00:40:22
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I am the captain now. Captain.
00:40:27
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this is yeah this is This is super tasty. I love this beer. Yeah, I really like this one. I don't think I've had a beer I didn't like from Hopewell.
00:40:40
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Mark this. This one actually might be on my... you know yeah your You know, as you're saying that, I'm going to go ahead and... Pull up my list because I'm being more active this year with my Maltese list because i don't want to be, ooh, a shepherd's pie recipe. I say, great idea.
00:40:59
Speaker
Ooh. Jen made ah a chicken pot pie yesterday from scratch. Holy hell. I didn't know you could actually make chicken pot pie from scratch. Virginia has told me she makes a great chicken pot pie and has not. Oh, my God. That looks fantastic. Yeah. My only contribution, she's like, I think it needs something else. And i was like, more rosemary.
00:41:19
Speaker
See, that wasn't much for me. No, no. It was... Rosemary is very strong. It needed the rosemary. Like, it was
00:41:33
Speaker
What is that? This is the sketches for our Billy billy Goat Pills and IPA. I was going to say, it looks like a new Goat Destroyer. That's going to be the pills. I like that. That's going to the IPA. I like what you did there.
00:41:45
Speaker
Yeah. So, for people who can't see... They were pretty good. We are working. yeah Can be. Drinking with a goat? You want a drink with a goat? Kind of do. Who doesn't want a drink a goat? I already have four.
00:42:00
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Billy Goat Tavern sent us a lot of pictures because they've been around since like the 40s. And so they're like, they want to guess us the history and the feeling and what's going on. The TLDRs, we decided we're going to be making the beer for the Billy Goat Tavern group.
00:42:14
Speaker
So that's showing us all the history. There's pictures of goats drinking beer and ducks drinking beer. People in the 30s, they're just like, hey, Duck, you want a beer? and the Duck was like... you You guys should lean into the Duck part, too.
00:42:30
Speaker
I know. Even though it's called Billy Goat, but... It's called Duck It, Fuck It. Duck, Duck Goat. but No, that's the name of Stephanie Izard's. One of her restaurants, I think. I think that's her Asian restaurant, Duck, Duck Goat, her Chinese restaurant.
00:42:47
Speaker
Oh. I'd fuck with that. I haven't been to that one. I went to no don one i went to her Dubscale Spanish for my birthday once, and it was amazing. yeah like and and What they do is their bakery for all their restaurants, because it was my birthday, they'll still apparently deliver cakes to any of their places for you. That makes sense.
00:43:11
Speaker
I met her once. She was rude. Oh. Yeah, it's kind of bummer. But still cheer for Overwatch Tournament of Champions on Food Network. Food Network Tournament of Champions, hosted by Guy Fieri.
00:43:23
Speaker
Food Network, sponsor of The Malting Hour. It's not true. Hey, you can get a C&D from him. I mean, I'm just keep throwing names out there to see what happens. Yeah, out there.
00:43:37
Speaker
I've got four beers already for my maltese. Not bad. And we're about to get into the fourth month of the year. So that's like, you know, one beer a month. Transient's number one.
00:43:48
Speaker
Big Lake makes number two. Rev is my number three. And now Hopewell is my number four. Damn. That's not in order. Those are just the beers I've put down so far. Damn. Yeah. I also put Ann Matthew, too.
00:44:01
Speaker
I'll fight about Crikey. I'll drink Crikey a little bit. That actually might, we might have to drink that one. We can. We can have about 15 more minutes. That's my favorite beer that we've done this year.
00:44:13
Speaker
I really love that beer. We're only three months into the year. We've got lot lot more of the year. I am also excited that for the third year a row we're we brewed Cole's Beer, Long Forgotten.
00:44:25
Speaker
Which one's that? That is the Kentucky Common, one of only two uniquely American and historical style beers. Apparently they got a Silver Untapped Award recently.
00:44:37
Speaker
Nice. For historical beer. well That's like, it's still an award, dude. still award. That's like a 3% beer, right? Am I right about that? It is 5.2. Last year, it was 3.4. Traditionally, a little bit higher.
00:44:51
Speaker
What happened? What'd you guys do? We were just a little bit, you know, mixed up. I liked that it was 3.2. I bought it.
00:45:02
Speaker
I mean, was good, but now that it's a little higher, a Yeah. All right, Matthew, how many... What did you... going to flip it the other way. H-N-M...
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00:45:15
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You can't do that. Okay. here's lizzie How many...
00:45:19
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o With who? Oon. Are you giving this? When you guys see the can, you'll understand. Just look at it. That needs to be the picture. Flip.
00:45:31
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I mean, you can't for the entire episode, but like you know look at it sideways where the M looks like an E, and now you know why it's... It went? It went? How many are you giving? I think at 4-3. It's definitely a style... It's similar to when we were in the American Lager, but this is where i was like, damn, it is... I drink the shit of this. This is like four five for me.
00:45:55
Speaker
This is what, like, i i don't know how often this is available. um i If it was available all the time, yo yoi like if I had to go to Hopal right now or like few months from now and I saw this, was yep, that's the first beer I'm starting with. I'd pick it over the pale ale and the Japanese lager.
00:46:16
Speaker
And I love this because it's so rich, full flavor, but it is still so crisp. was going say, it's not heavy. I don't feel like, oh, yeah. In the middle of summer, I think I could still drink that. Absolutely. I think I can definitely knock these back.
00:46:29
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you. They brought some of these for brewing our last reunion four-way collab. The 10-year game bank. Yeah. Insert song here.
00:46:43
Speaker
Insert something here. so ah Do you have more than these? No. Okay, that's a bummer. Yeah, I know. I'll go and look and buy these, I guess. Yeah, I know. I guess I'll go support more local breweries with my hard-working dollars. for Are you going to go to Booth Island Stop Fest on Saturday?
00:47:00
Speaker
No. If you text ah Trevor and Tim tomorrow. Yeah, it's... Yeah. yeah I mean, it happened a week ago. It's great.
00:47:10
Speaker
No, it happened two days ago. Two days ago. Yeah. Yeah, it wass fun time. had a great time. Yeah. No, I'm doing nothing this weekend. Yeah, Trevor is like... He went last year and he's like, oh man, I love this. and he brought three big amazing shots. This year he's like, I'm bringing four. What was he bringing?
00:47:28
Speaker
Chomper Auto Krampus, Double Double, German Chocolate Cake, and 2024 Pirate Krampus. He's like, I'm just going fucking all out. i was like, okay, Trevor, you were on vacation. Oh man.
00:47:40
Speaker
Maybe i do need to text those two.
00:47:44
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to the No Kings march. I am trying to keep our world alive. Thank you. While you're doing that, I will be drinking your job's beer, maybe. Or I'm just hanging out at home and enjoying my weekend before I have two months of everything.
00:48:01
Speaker
All my weekends filled. It's all fun stuff. It's all good stuff. Yeah, there's a lot going on. I'll take off mic.
00:48:09
Speaker
You don't want people knowing where you are all the time? I don't care. You guys can come find me. I encourage it. If you find me, say hello. I will buy you a beer. Walk around and find out. Yeah. but Is it? It's on the malty.
00:48:23
Speaker
Anthony. Oh yeah, Anthony. come off This episode, yeah, Anthony. Is it Anthony from the special evening? If you find me in the next week and you call me Anthony, i will buy you a beer and a shot.
00:48:36
Speaker
What's your shot? Whatever they want.
00:48:41
Speaker
be finding you, Anthony. Good luck. You were just telling me about the bar that had Weller. Don't go to Alice's. Don't meet me at Alice's. Alice's has no right having three Wellers,
00:48:54
Speaker
ah I don't regret spending $28 on the 12-year. It was fantastic. It was so good. had over a little bit of ice. I sipped that slowly. I also had it early.
00:49:06
Speaker
Yeah, the only thing that makes me just sad is I remember buying 12-year dollar at $28. Yeah, were the good old days. I can't even find just the regular Weller anywhere.
00:49:17
Speaker
Or the 107, yeah. Every now and then, the regular green label Weller will pop up at Juul for like 25 bucks or 30 bucks. I'll buy it. It's great. I'm happy that happens.
00:49:28
Speaker
yeah My bottle, not nearly as hard to find, but Sazerac. What is that? Sazerac rye? Ooh. Find Sazerac rye. If you get it between, know, somewhere around $30.
00:49:39
Speaker
One of my favorite ryes. By the way, did try the Angel's Envy rye. The one that's in rum barrels. Yes. Fantastic. We also found one... God. What is...
00:49:55
Speaker
I can't think of it. I thought it was that, but it was almost like a variant? No, no, maybe that was that. I don't know. I had a different Angels Envy recently. I took a picture up we'll We'll talk about it off mic. We're going move on to the next beer, though.
00:50:07
Speaker
Is it crikey? No, it's that one. We can still do Crikey afterward. I don't think we'll be able to taste Crikey afterwards. Yeah, we will. All right. Confident little thing you are. Confident little fucker.
00:50:19
Speaker
All right. This is Cup of Origins. Maybe I'm wrong. Well, we got this. You know, talking about Half Acre and Maplewood a lot. like to drink them. And their announcement.
00:50:33
Speaker
What do you think about their announcement? For everyone who didn't hear, essentially they're going to be creating a parent company that is going to own Half Acre and Maplewood, and they're going brew everything out of the Balmoral Half Acre. As far as business goes, I don't know.
00:50:52
Speaker
Also, that doesn't look as thick as I thought. I forget that Kappa really isn't super thick, but is a nice looking stout. um Business-wise, I don't know.
00:51:03
Speaker
It's two breweries that I love. It's just like when, for me personally, Sam Adams and Dogfish Head came together, I was like, that makes sense. I like those two brands, and i was okay with it. But that seemed more like Sam Adams helped Dogfish Head out of the sure i have a jam.
00:51:20
Speaker
I mean, this... I don't think that's the case here. think it's two breweries that are... Of similar size, too. Yeah, who are... And Maplewood's been wanting to get out of just straight contract brewing for a long time.
00:51:32
Speaker
it makes a lot of sense, and if Half Acre had, you know, empty tanks that they could, you know, they already have done some contract brewing, so they apparently have enough space there, but...
00:51:45
Speaker
Yeah, for me, it's really interesting because they have two different distributors, so are they going to keep all their sales team, two different sales team, do two different things? That would be wild. Are they going still keep both tap rooms and the new Maplewood place? Are they going to split everything? There's just a lot of funny little details that's interesting to me.
00:52:05
Speaker
I'm just happy those two have found love. you know They got married. Two breweries that do great beers. I miss, I'm going to miss because I don't know if they do this, but when they used to do, how figure was it, Big Hugs?
00:52:23
Speaker
Oh, yeah. They'd do it the bombers right and they would have two labels on it and you'd pull back the label. oh Big Hugs was great. When I got into Big Hugs, they had already transitioned into cans.
00:52:36
Speaker
But, uh, yeah, Big Hugs hasn't been around. ah they do, like, the regular Big Hugs. They used to do, like, variants and stuff like that, and now I, they focus just on, like, their extreme barrel aging, which is fantastic. It is pricey, but I've had some of those, I think the one year that I bought from them, was it half acre?
00:52:58
Speaker
Possibly, think? Yeah, I did. And it was great. I mean, all of them were fantastic. Um, If you're willing to spend that amount of money, as we've talked about, barrel aging is not cheap. There's a lot of risk, hopefully for a big reward. So, you know, you're taking up a lot of space when you're barrel aging.
00:53:18
Speaker
Oh, yeah. To go back on that, 28 months later is 28 months and seven year Will It barrels, Will It bourbon. Yeah, I want that. I want that now. By the way, the Angels Envy I got was a small batch.
00:53:31
Speaker
It was 92 proof Kentucky straight rye whiskey finished in French oak barrels, and it was fantastic. Really, really good. Bought it for Virginia's father.
00:53:42
Speaker
What are we drinking? And i was like, now to bounce around everywhere. So we are drinking Maplewood's Cup of Origins Imperial Stout Ale brewed with Hexa-Columbian Single Origin Coffee, 12%.
00:53:56
Speaker
this This should be like a stout they just have regularly. We always talk about base stouts for barrel aging. I don't know if this is the actual... I'm i'm assuming it's his Origins. Maybe this is where they started. and like oh whoa maybe well, maybe build up off of this.
00:54:14
Speaker
I think Origins, in this case, is they're trying to do a playoff of a single... Do you drink a lot of coffee? Yes. Single source Origins coffee. Okay. So this is a Colombian coffee from Hexa.
00:54:27
Speaker
They should do this more because this is delicious. It is really delicious. I will say, though, versus a lot of other sounds, and I like the subtlety of this, it is not hitting me over the head with coffee. Right, but it's there.
00:54:43
Speaker
It's like, to me, it's the aftertaste roastiness where it's like, did take a sip or bite into a dessert that had coffee? Exactly. Like, that's where you're picking it. Like, literally...
00:54:56
Speaker
I had not drink whole bunch of beers and this wasn't 12%. sure if went them, they'd be like, did you just have some coffee? Yeah, this this almost reminds me even like a little bit of like, have you had tiramisu? And you're like, a little bit, you're like, oh, there is like espresso in tiramisu. Like it just has that little bit of that roasted bitter right in the back of your cheek. Do you know do you remember when this came out couple of years ago? No No clue.
00:55:20
Speaker
it's fine That one's been sitting with me for a while. It's really good. And this is the first beer that I wish Brandon was here to try. Sorry, Brandon. Brandon, I do have a lot of other fun things for you as well. Without me?
00:55:38
Speaker
Like M&M without me? I mean, are you to be without Brandon? Yeah, probably. In May, I'm gone for like a week. friends in 2023 going back to June 2023. that's when this was really... here we go. Canned on June 8th, 2023. Holy shit.
00:55:54
Speaker
twenty twenty three going back to june twenty twenty three um if that's when this was really oh here we go yep canned on june eighth twenty twenty three holy shit It's almost two years old. um The coffee's holding up not really well. I was going say, like even if it was more in your face when it was a fresh beer, great.
00:56:19
Speaker
For this to hold up the way... This tastes like a fresh beer. Like a fresh stout. There's nothing stale about this. Thank you, my fridge. Hey, man. Way to keep this cold.
00:56:31
Speaker
It's really good. It's it's almost like... What love about this is that, as I've talked about before, there are certain stouts and certain like porters that I forget what grain it is that they roast, but I get a tinny taste. It drives me nuts because there are so many stouts where I'm like, oh that sounds great.
00:56:58
Speaker
Well, I don't even know... it Maybe it is the malt, too. But if you boil it, the longer you boil, you can get that, like, kind of tinny quality. It is the one, like... i don't even know if it's an off flavor, but it is something I'm so sensitive to that as soon as I get it, I'm like, oh, I have, like...
00:57:17
Speaker
Swore my glass around a whole bunch and start drinking it. I do get that from off-color every now and then. And they don't do a lot of stouts, but sometimes from the Dino S'mores or anything else they've done, it's like, I think I may have gotten it from Half Acre as well.
00:57:31
Speaker
Except for their barrel-age stuff. I don't think I've ever gotten it from Maplewood. um I like this a lot because Kuppa series... is so vast. They do a whole bunch.
00:57:44
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They do over-the-top stuff. They just do fun, simple adjuncts. They've done the single barrels. They've done cocktail versions of it. And I've not had a bad cuppa. And this, that this is so good.
00:58:01
Speaker
And the fact that it's Almost three years old? That's like two years and three months old? Yeah. And it tastes this way? That's fucking good.
00:58:13
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We said June. We're almost to June. Okay. Sorry. Two years... No, I'm right. June is three months away.
00:58:24
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So yeah, it'd be two years, nine months. Okay. Sorry, everybody. math I think there's people out there who knew what I meant.
00:58:35
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What was that? I'm sorry. I blew it up. Take it to the lawyer. Take it to the Lord. as we're almost to Easter. Jesus. Exactly. This is really good. um Yeah, my only sadness of not having Brandon is I was like two ah two of some of my favorite beers recently.
00:58:57
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this going on your list? it's It's up there. I'm going to throw it on my list as it might end up as an honorable mention.
00:59:08
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I really like it because it has the sweetness. It has some some of that like thickness in what you're looking for body without having that tinny non-alcoholic. But it's not so thick or heavy. Not at all. that like I definitely want a little bit more.
00:59:25
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Yeah. So I will. It's really good.
00:59:34
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Oh,
00:59:37
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don't. Okay. Move this little bit for me to have at the end here. That's the fastest I've ever seen Matthew down a beer on the podcast. Yeah, you say that. Now you now we're it we're going to see if you can do what Brandon and I have had to do When one of us tries to walk away without the listener knowing, okay?
01:00:03
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and Can you carry the conversation? Yeah. All right. So coming up on April 9th, we have Della Days. That's not fair. Which is a historical celebration of our beer, Della.
01:00:18
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One of our first beers that we ever made, celebrating Six Corners in Chicago, Illinois, has the train on there. During that weekend, we're going to $5 Delapite specials. We are also got some really fun special glassware that Tim designed the logo for. We're going to releasing... Is it not a glassware?
01:00:37
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Yeah. Have you seen the logo? Yeah. Yeah. We did 16 ounce can glasses for this one. And then actually the last minute change that Jeff came up with that I love is we were just going to do like the black OIV logo on the back.
01:00:54
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And he goes, well, why don't we just match the color of Della to it? And so on the back of this glass, it's actually a purple OIV logo on the back. And so we only got 10 cases. It's we expect to sell out of those because we're also we're finishing it, but it's going to be somewhere between 10 and $12 for the glass and a pint of Della.
01:01:17
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Yeah. can it Okay. I'm going to say this on mic. Can you hold on to one? Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. And if I get one during when I'm there, you know, Give me that one too.
01:01:30
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that's I just need one so bad. Yeah. That sounds awesome. It's one of my favorite glasses that we we've made in a little bit. right. So before we wrap this up, going have one more beer. It's another Old Irving beer. We're bookending. Another Old Irving beer. This one's called Torquake.
01:01:49
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It's an Australian pale ale. You hear that? Listen. Sorry, listen. Listen now. Listen.
01:02:01
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Does that do that in the middle the night? Oh yeah. It's about to stop because winter's over. That's good. That's my heat kicking on. We have radiators and it gets hot when it's so cold outside.
01:02:12
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We have our windows open because it gets so hot around the second floor. That you need a crisp, clean Australian pale ale. That's a bad transition. ah Yeah. Wow. You guys have kangaroo stingrays.
01:02:25
Speaker
You put a fucking stingray on there. What the fuck's... are timmp Was that Tim's idea? This whole thing is Tim. Come on, Tim. It's funny, but come on. Trevor loves St. Crikey because of Steve Irwin.
01:02:40
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And then, yeah, there's Kangaroo's, Stingray's, and... Kangaroo's? Yeah. Okay. Citra Galaxy Abstracts. Abstracts is this brand new company that is doing concentrated hop oils with some of them. It makes some of the most aromatic.
01:02:57
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We did this with the Galactic Thoughts and this. um It just makes the aromatic so much more. smells great. Yeah, having the tropical aroma on this is just delightful. And it we actually didn't put on here, but it's Australian Cascade.
01:03:13
Speaker
Cascade? Yeah. Okay, Australian Cascade. And then says, good day, Mike. Citra Galaxy, Astraxia, Cascade. Australian Cascade. Boomerang?
01:03:25
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don't know about that boomerang. don't know either. The decoration on it. I've never seen a boomerang like that. Well, so you can also get this at a Lucky Door.
01:03:36
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So this is Don't sidestep what I just said about boomerang. So at Lucky Door, if you go to Wrigley, in their corridor there... used talk Wrigley Field.
01:03:49
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Yeah, Wrigley Field. What other Wrigley do you know? don't know, man. Just be specific. Just in case the people overseas listening to this were like, well, i like craft beer and we're following these guys because we have listeners all over the world.
01:04:05
Speaker
They don't care about Chicago. oh yeah. Maybe you can get this on in Australia. I doubt it. And I apologize to everybody in Australia. Yeah, we really should. Tim kind of made the label as a joke. and were like I'm offended as an American.
01:04:23
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I mean, that is a buff kangaroo. That kangaroo, i mean we all know kangaroos can kick your ass. But the stingray, come on. It's fucked up. See, everyone was a national treasure.
01:04:36
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Well, I helped name 28 months later in the label. I had nothing to do with the name or label on this one, but I do love the beer. Yeah, 6.2%. That's very good. I've never had an Australian paleo.
01:04:48
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um Yeah, you'd have to go BJCP for exactly... I'm sorry, what do I need to do BJCP. Oh, BJCP. I didn't hear the CP the last time. Your brain just turned off after BJ, didn't it? mean, we're an hour and four minutes into this...
01:05:03
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are special.
01:05:07
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Thank you Brandon. Sorry Brandon. Sorry Brandon. Don't move the chair like that. The mic picks it all up. I wonder if you can hear the steam.
01:05:18
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Oh yeah. People can hear that. think we hear the neighbors downstairs too. Are they fucking? No, it's four dudes, Eastern European, and hanging out finally on a Friday because they work nights. My question still stands.
01:05:33
Speaker
I don't think so, man. And if they are, good for them. Yeah. I'm not going to pry into their personal business. But yes, this is one of my favorite beers. And it's so fucking clear on this. This is one of my favorite beers that I had. Like, you get a little bit of that bitterness, but just the tropical aromatics on this and how clean it is doing the potombo finger wag. I like this, but it is not as good as refract to me.
01:05:59
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I do like refract. Another beer that... help name? Doji. Refract. Your beer. That's where I'm at. can't put Beezer in there. I can't put Krampus in there. Those are, you know, Sentinels in there as well. Talking about like the...
01:06:19
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Later ones. LTOs. What? I'm sorry, what? Limited time offerings. Yeah. Exactly. Is Sentinel? Yeah, Sentinel's available all the time, right? Yeah. Yeah. Double Sentinel was so fun.
01:06:31
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up And soon to be Lady Gregory's is going to be on all the time. I'm sorry, what is that? You don't know Lady Gregory's? No. I guess you don't know.
Chicago Nightlife and Reflections
01:06:43
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Andersonville Irish Bar. Their whiskey selection is top-notch.
01:06:49
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ah Also, you know, just really good beer. Better than Alice's?
01:06:55
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Perhaps. from Chicago. You know Alice's. If you're not from Chicago, it's a fun karaoke bar. Also, I felt very old when 10 o'clock rolled around and lot of the 20-year-olds started pouring in.
01:07:11
Speaker
The fact that you made it to 10 o'clock... Good on you. I'm normally... 7 o'clock, 8 o'clock is when I'm leaving bars. We went home. There was an after party, and I said, absolutely not.
01:07:23
Speaker
I had a lot at Blanton's, at Weller. Buffalo Trace, hams. Yeah. Our issue is we we had the book released that I helped write a chapter for, but we were day drinking.
01:07:37
Speaker
and by the time that I went and got food... I know. you mess when When you said, like, I'm in a food coma, I'm like, I thought you were home by now. Oh, the food was delicious. What did we have?
01:07:50
Speaker
We tried to go someplace, but every place was packed. It was a nice day? It was a nice day. It was the first nice day in Chicago. Yeah, because we wanted to go to a patio. that's what There it is. and Every patio. Yeah, especially at that time of day. Everyone's been there since like 2 o'clock.
01:08:05
Speaker
You were late. But we went to Oshak Hennessy's. That's a King Peel sketch. Yeah. And we the patio was packed, and we got a table next to the door that we could see the patio, and as soon as someone got up, we were like, we're going to take that.
01:08:23
Speaker
Nice. Good move. That's a pro move right there. Yeah. That's a pro springtime Chicago move. it's good We'll talk about the book on another episode. But I will say this, Matthew, it's been a pleasure to host you here in my dining room for us to do another intimate one-on-one where we just lock eyes for about 90% of the time, maybe even more. I'm saying 90% because I don't want it to be weird.
01:08:50
Speaker
as we still look into each other's eyes. He's raising his eyebrows and I flicked away. yeah Well, I was excited for the intimate music that you were going create for this episode. and i'm not making anything for this episode. You would do me dirty like that?
01:09:09
Speaker
I mean, maybe. maybe We'll see. Don't count on it, everybody. If you started this episode, you already know I didn't do it. But if I didn't do it, cheers to me, right?
01:09:19
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Cheers to you. I'll release it on Spotify. Ooh. Yeah, right? I like
Travel Adventures and Disruptions
01:09:25
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that. Yeah, thanks. Well, Matthew, another evening. Just us sitting around while Brandon's away on something fun we wish we were with him.
01:09:37
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Yeah, he gets take those fun trips to Hawaii. Yeah. Hawaii. and then and Hawaii. and he really likes Hawaii. You know, you can't blame him.
01:09:50
Speaker
I've never been, have you? Well, here's the thing. He couldn't go to Hawaii. He actually ended up in north carolina or South Carolina because all of the flooding that happened in Maui. So he's not there. He's still landside.
01:10:01
Speaker
Never mind. I'm sorry, Brandon. he's in South Carolina. Myrtle Beach. I've never been to Merle Beach. Merle Beach is fantastic. Oh. There's no school beach.
01:10:13
Speaker
I'm sorry, what? We were there together. Oh, those rocks. Yeah. Yeah. The white pebble beach. Those weren't pebbles. Those were rocks. Yeah.
01:10:25
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Thrown rocks for three hours. The kid who wanted to hang out with us for the first 30 minutes. oh yeah. Yeah. you guys are good with kids i ignore him yeah What can I say?
Conclusion and Future Plans
01:10:40
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Brandon and I roll.
01:10:41
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All right. ah Matthew, I will see you next time. See soon. And Brandon, we miss you. We'll see you soon. I'll see you later.