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Ep #8 "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly: Reviewing WWE Money in the Bank and AEW's Forbidden Door"
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In this episode, we discussed the critical role of a wrestler’s personality and connection with the audience. Charisma and engagement are as crucial as in-ring abilities for success, exemplified by Shayna Baszler’s captivating presence. Authenticity in interactions was emphasized, noting that rehearsed lines can undermine relatability. Strong character development and storytelling were identified as key to connecting with fans, with evolving personas necessary to stay relevant.
We critiqued WWE’s handling of wrestlers like Zoey Starks, suggesting she needs more time to develop her character. Potential matchups on Raw were proposed to help her stand out. We also addressed social media’s impact, citing a controversy over a video post without audio and stressing the importance of accountability and prompt apologies to maintain trust with the audience.
Additionally, we recapped recent WWE and AEW pay-per-views. WWE’s event featured standout matches, including a thrilling main event and significant title changes, while AEW’s show highlighted high-energy bouts and surprising outcomes that kept fans on the edge of their seats.
Overall, the episode underscored that a wrestler’s personality, character development, and authentic engagement are vital for their success, both in the ring and on social media.
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Transcript
Podcast Relaunch and Introduction
00:00:30
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wait wrestling podcast
00:00:37
Speaker
What is good, y'all? I know you have missed us. We've been gone for a minute. But it feels like forever. um But anyways, we are back now. We're just going to get into the news. um Yesterday, we had WWE's pay-per-view Money in the Bank. We had last week, AEW's Forbidden Door. So let's, uh, let's go over forbidden door first and then we can get into, um, WWE's yesterday's preview and then what we suspect on NXT's heat wave tonight.
00:01:13
Speaker
Oh, how are you guys doing? I'm Donnie Hokuto. Yeah, this is this is Coltrane. This is Coltrane right here. We're here. Oh, you want me to introduce you? I just thought we'd just get into it. They know who you is. They could see your names on the screen. The three people that watched last time might not be the same three people that watched this time. And maybe it's Paul. OK, so that fourth person need to know us. Hello, fourth person. OK, anyways. We're having a city. yeah I don't know what happened to him. um Wait, did did I just disappear?
00:01:50
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know what happened. I was just sitting here waiting for y'all to finish discussing and it just disappeared me. It just disappeared me. That's what it did. I don't know what happened. I'm sitting here like, okay, they're doing a little banter. Um, anyways. Well,
Critique of AEW's Forbidden Door Event
00:02:10
Speaker
I'm here. Those are you guys that don't know or have never seen us before. My name is Terrell Garnett with my co-host CT Coltrane and Donnie Hokuto. And this is Against the Road podcast.
00:02:24
Speaker
like i was saying forbiden door So what are you all standouts from for being door if you had to do one thing that stood out was that it was too fucking long. There's too many goddamn matches. That's one thing that stood out. AW problem number 605,000 matches for me that that I can remember. was obviously Will, or anything Will does is gonna be amazing, um versus, ah as you called him, the Coon. um
00:02:56
Speaker
You did call him that. I did. We had it on record though. So you a swerve hater? It's on the video. I've never, I have never hated swerve. And no one ever once said- Go back and put that clip in here. hey No one once ever, no one once ever said that you hated him. You did never said that you hated him. No, CT just asked, am I a surf hater?
Aging Wrestlers and Their Relevance
00:03:20
Speaker
And I answered. Oh, okay. But no one said that you were. But you did definitely call him a coon. I did not. So I had to ask the people. I can't even ask CT because he gonna know him to lie. So they wouldn't even believe him even if he was telling the truth. What are you talking about? Was he the last time you were born? I know you heard it. I know you heard it. I know you were there, but you're not a liable witness.
00:03:42
Speaker
I am a great witness to the majority of everything that happens. Okay. That was said, and you can go back and find the clip. I'm sure to where we'll find the clip or if not I'm going to go find it myself. You do. I'm going to look in the video and find it myself. And we're going to put it here for everybody to see. We're not putting it here. We'll put it on the next episode because I ain't doing all that. to so um know I haven't called anybody anything. I just know that you've never called anybody anything. Let's not get started on the rock.
00:04:16
Speaker
Yeah. Like crazy. What about him? You say you ain't never called nobody. You've been the biggest Dwayne hater of the year. I've never seen a bigger. Oh, wow. I have not been the bit. Even the Cody cry babies have been better than you. Damn. That's true, though. Y'all act like every time this man come up, I say something slanderous. You do. You do. It's the first time you have it. I can't help to real and see that he's not interested enough in 2024 to keep my attention.
00:04:53
Speaker
He had been interesting to me at least since he left that last time to go to Hollywood. It's it's one thing to not be interested. Before he came back with Trish. It's one thing to not think that he's interesting. And Sookie. It's a completely other thing for you to insult him every time. Is that what you do? You insult the guy? No, I don't. He doesn't have anything that's ins insultable. I just don't think that um he's interesting. Okay, the roles have been reversed. Now Donny is lying. I'm not lying. Y'all are trying to try to make me feel a way that I i don't. You're not telling the truth. Jesus. I'm going to pray for you for this. Yes. Anyways, this is the way you get to lie. What other match was good? Y'all act like the Rock is not used to lying. He just lied on the whole documentary.
00:05:47
Speaker
I know, I did i know. so i was The Rock meme is hilarious. I love it. I actually haven't seen the documentary yet. um you need to you know you didn You need to go watch it. You're going to catch the lie immediately. It is the most funniest thing the Rock has said this entire year. It's hilarious. What's wrong with you? All those lies, give me goosebumps. I'm fucking done. And there you go, making fun of him now. Nobody's doing anything. He's just so old. I guess to stand out for a forbidden board. And now he's old. And in the way. Half a forbidden waste of time. How old is the rock? He's got to be about 55. Maybe. No, he's not 55. Oh, he's got to be in his late 40s. Maybe mid 40s. The rock is late 40s. No, he's 50 something, but he's not.
00:06:38
Speaker
All right. Handy didn't. What? Okay. Why is this doing this? Stop autocorrecting. He's 52. He was born in 72. Thank you. Yeah. May 2nd. He just made a birthday two months ago. So I have a question.
00:06:57
Speaker
When Sting was wrestling and fighting, you never said anything bad about Sting being old. Okay. So the issue is not that the rock is old. No, I'm not ageist. I'm not ageist. You just called him old. Because he is. 52 is not old. It's not. It's the truth. six Damn near 60 is old. like If you ask me as if Sting was old, ill be hit I'll be like, fuck yes. He's very old. Sting's in his 60s. Yeah, he's old. He wrestled until 62 years old. It is. and no no No, it's not. It may be an old wrestling, but that doesn't make it old.
00:07:36
Speaker
No, 50, 52. What are we talking about, Tyrell? I'm just saying, you're saying that he's old. He's old and wrestling. I haven't spoken about him in any form outside of history. When we were talking about it, you called him old before we weren't even really talking about necessarily him wrestling. We were just talking about him in general. Well, I'm not talking about him in any other fashion except for wrestling. I don't even want to talk about him there because it's like, why are you still here? He's old. Get out the way. Move to the side. Stop taking up the thing with the thing that was so different between Sting's time in post retirement or I don't know, legacy career and Rock's time in legacy career. Sting wasn't taking up anybody. He was actually getting people over. Sting was there. He was there for a reason. Rock had no other reason.
00:08:23
Speaker
to be there at the WWE than to take the heat off of WWE for the Vince McMahon thing to take time from women to, you know, just do whatever to take up a little spots from Cody. He had, there's no outside of a ratings grab. There's no reason to have a, what else has the rock done? We ain't seen shit from the rock. He lost. He, he lost. He got hit by all the legends and went back to his little whatever. Because he's filming the movie that he's, he was constantly obligated to film. He'll be back. Because nobody cares stay over there at the movies. You know, all I was saying was if you give, if you talk about the rock long enough, Donnie will start shading him. That's all I was trying to prove. No, anyway it wasn't anything to prove. It was a forbidden waste of time.
00:09:17
Speaker
That's how I describe it. I mean, I mean, the world title match was great. I mean, Will Asprey always does his things. I love Swerve. I've been a Swerve fan too. That title match should not have been at Forbidden Door because it made no sense. Well, yeah, it didn't make any sense, but it still was good. And what I mean by it didn't make any sense is it's called Forbidden Door. So the main event should be something that we haven't seen before. And granted, we may not have seen what we have seen before, but I mean, like they are in the same company, so they're That didn't apply to the pay-per-view at all. Great match. That was my main problem with this show. It did not feel like the first Forbidden Door show where we actually had those dream matches that we never thought that we were actually seeing. The reason why? The reason why is because they have them people come over every freaking Wednesday. That's the problem. Friday and Saturday. Collaboration. Too much.
00:10:09
Speaker
Yeah. It's like not forbidden no more. Like even just yesterday, one of the women match or whatever, the girl was from, uh, Spanish promotion. CMLL. Yes. And, um, we seen her fight last week too. And I was like, both of these girls are for CMLL and they're on collision right now.
Mercedes Monet's Performance Analysis
00:10:29
Speaker
Make that make sense how. Two people that don't even work for AEW or wrestling each other on AEW. and i don't guess Like, that's just like having a TNA match on WWE programming. It just doesn't fucking make any sense. No, the way Tony handles his non AEW TV time, it's just kind of a waste of time. It really is because he doesn't use the TV time to like get
00:11:03
Speaker
whatever start he's trying to introduce into AW over or. Promote any type of anything that's about to happen. He just uses it to put on whatever. And then it just goes back to normal. Yeah. And that's the, I think one of the biggest problems with AEW is when I watch it, I don't know who, um, who's actually signed to AEW and who's not when they're in the matches. Because like realistically speaking and I'm gonna say it cuz we say it every week Why are these people that are not with a W getting more TV time than Tony or than ah Ricky Starks? Because where the fuck is Ricky? Well, yeah, it doesn't make any sense. It does not make it where it is Ricky And don't give me the don't give me that excuse Tony. Well, I would love to use Ricky Starks then why y'all on my TV? Ask the question
00:12:02
Speaker
I blame Tony. I blame Tony. I blame Tony because it's his fault. It's his fault. It's his fault. His roster is so oversaturated that it is so bloated, oversaturated, just claustrophobic. Baby, power wash this roster, please. Yes. And he's a cleanser. So these Monet's match was decent. um
00:12:31
Speaker
I don't know. I just didn't.
00:12:36
Speaker
I have fun with that match. I think that's probably the first time I've ever seen Mercedes Monet outwrestled in real time. And I like to I feel like she ah she kind of thrives in this. Well, because she's a, whatchamacallit, a counter wrestler, so when people are on the go, then it just, I don't know, it elevates her. I don't know, I sound like the ending, I think. The ladder match was good?
00:13:10
Speaker
The latter match was predictable. Yeah. What else was on the damn card? Naito versus Moxley. I actually missed that match. I'm not a Moxley fan. Oh, that's not. I went to the bathroom. Well, I don't like Moxley like that. But I never, he's a Dean Ambrose to never care for him. You watched the Danielson match? Yeah. Who did he fight?
00:13:38
Speaker
She didn't go something. He fought Takagi, Takagi, Takagi. That one was a good match, wasn't it? That was like that was a match. A wrestlegasm that would give it to you. It was pretty good though. I thats that i i thought was the most pointless was the um Orange Cassidy versus. um
00:14:04
Speaker
What's his name?
00:14:07
Speaker
I drew him in my head, I can't grasp his name for nothing. Zack Sabre Jr.? Thank you. Thank you. Zack Sabre Jr. We knew damn well Zack was gonna win that match. Orange Cassidy cannot compare. Like, why would they even put them together? Hey, that Orange Cassidy can go, don't let him fool you now. No, he's fooling himself. Oh, he's fooling himself. That man is good. That man is good. I just, I don't, I don't think he's that great. What? You really got that, I don't, I'm not an Orange Cassidy fan at all. Not that bad though. He's, you know, he's a gimmick and I'm not here for it. Past the gimmick. He's actually very good at though. But anywho, do you really think that that he was going to be Zack Sabre Jr? Let's be honest. No, but I didn't think any of these, the way any of these results happened on this car were going to happen any other way. I didn't think that, I think that Zack Sabre Jr was going to win. Which is my point. If you're having, if it been in door, we should have matches that we're like any, you know, this person could actually take it.
00:15:07
Speaker
No, I think I think I want to show this anything that when it comes to big moments, big matches, regardless of his opponent, I think that he's shown that he can he can show up and show out with the best of them. I think I don't. Yeah, I don't agree. It just like really for Orange Cassidy, it just depends on who he's in the ring with. And the match was good. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to win, of course, because what is going to have you doing in 24 anyway? um Besides hurting. It's like, yeah, that's all, that's all he's doing. But in that, it was a decent match. But going back to the point that we made earlier is a new finisher too. that That's the weakest freaking Superman punch I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. It's terrible.
00:15:52
Speaker
i terrible oh I mean my good sis Mercedes to have a new finisher. I am so ready for a new finisher. I think one of the issues with that finisher is she's too small for it. Yes. Um, and I don't even mean height wise. I just mean, she's so small for it. It just doesn't hurt. So when she's trying to even pick them up to do it, it's just be so awkward and they watch it every time just to get up on her shoulders. Um, I just don't know what I need for her to have. There's gotta be something iconic though. I have to say it's gotta be iconic. I feel like if I could see that move being done by, um, Andrade and I feel like he would execute it so beautifully.
00:16:33
Speaker
Mm hmm. You eat that. Whatever you see. You might. have You know what? You haven't been eating as you should have been eating lately, but you ate that one. Thank you. You ate that one. OK, it's real. Yes. Yes. Yes. Come on. I'm trying to ask because the more I think about it, the more I think about it, the more it's eating. I'm trying to. Baby. I don't know if you hear this. I don't know if you're watching, but I'm going to talk to you like you are. I need you to get that move from Mercedes. Give her one of your things and you get one of her things. And maybe you take that and you run with it and you eat it. Yes. I know that's right. Terrell. Terrell is exactly cooking. like you know maybe Maybe him cooking on a fortune.
00:17:29
Speaker
Got his takes going good already today. I'll see you. He cooked just for a moment. Like he was a nibble. Okay. All right. i I see you. I see you, Terrell. I just need to know what we need Mercedes to have. That I don't know. She needs something. She needs to stop doing that than a frog splash. Oh, the frog splash look good though. I like the frog splash. Not when she does it. Okay, not too much on a frog splash. Okay. Listen, this is is not a five star frog splash. Cause not everybody get that height, but it's still a splash. She's splashing though. And I'm not trying to shave Mercedes at all. Cause she's one of, she is one of the best. ah Yeah. Please don't say that because you know, there's a fan boy that is, uh, yeah, that's, that's her biggest fan right there. And delusional.
00:18:25
Speaker
You can't take criticism. Give her a running knee. I always say give her a running knee. You've been saying that. I've
Women's Wrestling: Talent and Potential
00:18:31
Speaker
been saying it. But think about it. Think about it. What else? I definitely could see her doing that, though. Like, the sake of knee, I think that's what it's called. One dancing uses. Yeah. and But she's going to have to get her acceleration up.
00:18:48
Speaker
So you want her to have more of like an an action type of move. Yeah, because you can hit that on everybody. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. like an action and a submission, like keep her submission, but also give her give her something else. Did she win with the submission? She did, huh? She did, didn't she? Yeah, she dropped her out, didn't she? Yeah. She did that move and then she put her in the the bank statement. The bank statement. I don't know if it's called that anymore. I call it the money statement now. Money.
00:19:22
Speaker
But keep keep the bank statement, because it's icon. It is. the It is. ah She has to keep that one, because if she get rid of that one, then I don't know. She can be out of luck. But she she needs her impact. I'm sure she do. She'll eat that one up. I think she would. Yeah, well, hopefully she hears this. And when I say this, if you need me. Let me know. Not you training. I mean, but what else is there that stood out from this show that y'all enjoyed? I don't even really remember the show, to be honest. The Tony Storm Mina Showakawa match was really good. Okay. Oof. I liked the latter match, like I said earlier. I thought it was good. Who's gonna beat Tony? That's a good question. It's gotta be Mercedes. So that means Mercedes needs to lose her belt or have both belts?
00:20:15
Speaker
I feel like Mercedes might end up being triple crown at some point, but I feel like it's also so strange, which it feel good because we um, had this much attention on the AWS women's division for a long time or literally ever. So you um beater who Who? She might beat her. because Mariah May is going to fight Willow. She'll probably beat Willow. And then Mariah May fights Tony for the belt at all in. I could see it. that I think that's what they're setting up for. I wouldn't be mad if Willow won. I want Willow to win, but I could see Mariah. Like that just, it tells some type of story. Yeah. Cause will Willow be the first black AW Women's champion? Nyla. Nevermind. Nyla. Nyla. Yeah. I thought Nyla Rose was something. But where is Nyla Rose?
00:21:09
Speaker
Nala was just on TV last week. Yeah, but before then. I don't know. She was on vacation. We fired Ricky. We're going to fire her too. yeah I think Ricky might be on the private island at this point. I don't think he coming back. he And he don't need to. He don't need to come back. He need to just go right over there where his his best bud is, Cody. Yeah. They need to help anyways after they don't lost that man. after they got their ass beat. Well, let's move over to- Let's sign the contract, Ricky. WWE. I just want to say one thing. Before everything started, AAA said he had a lot of surprises. What the fuck were the surprises? I guess John Cena was one. You can't see him. Oh. That's not a surprise. Because we don't want to see him again. Y'all are shameful. Okay.
00:21:56
Speaker
Let me say, you say something, okay? I actually got a little bit emotional last night because at first I was one of the biggest John Cena haters until 2015. That's when I started, like starting like John Cena again. We know we have it. That's your Johnny boy. Yeah, that's Johnny boy. We know. Now it's Johnny boy, okay? And I'm, I'm, I'm a miss him. You got emotional when he said that he's retiring, when he don't wrestle at all. For what, CT? He wrestles once a year. Because, For what? you know, he's entertaining, that's why. And his matches are pretty good with the right person. When was the last time he was entertaining? 2021?
00:22:37
Speaker
one Roman. Okay, when he fought last year and the year before that. and this year I don't count that Austin Theory match. That was awful. um though I don't want to talk about that. That was genuinely the worst match ever since Josh's career. theory is terrible. Anyway, um, there is not terrible. He is. I'm gonna make the shirt. Okay. please make it and wear it On my shirt theory is terrible. I bet you wouldn't say that to his face though. I sure I sure will. ah totally I doubt it. You tell a lie. You're so great. You're the next John Cena. I love you so much. we know you won lie I don't lie. I don't lie like that in front of anybody. You don't lie.
00:23:19
Speaker
No, I don't lie. I don't want people face like that. Hell no. We got our faces all the time. Technically, he let out either. But he also let out our face. And he asked me. I'm going to be on this camera and he sees us. He asked me. What do I think of him? I'm going to think that I'm telling him exactly this. He's never going to ask you that. CT goes, say you have the body I wish I had. You say that all the time. Yeah. Look at his body though. That's a different story. Okay. That body is great. I will tell you something. If I had that body boy, imagine the women on me. Oh, I did that. That'd be it right there. I have, I mean, you get that body CT if you actually worked out. Listen, listen to that. We were getting to that point, you know,
00:24:05
Speaker
This fall, I'm going to be in the gym consistently, and i I'm going to have to hold myself to that. So one of my friends, he he can hold me to it. I'm going to try to go to the gym at least three times a week, three times. Okay. That's not enough. And I'm going to start eating right. I'm going to lay lay off my fries. That's, that's, that's what be getting me the fries. You need to go at least four to five times CT, three times ain't going to be enough. Four to five times a week with my schedule. Ooh. I don't know about that. Three times later three times as good as to slide here. So I got one lose that's just want to lose a little bit of stomach because I don't like my stomach. I got to lose that. You can. After this podcast, you can go do some sit up. You're right. Sit sit ups and stuff. It's not doing my push up. Don't do it. Yeah, he ain't gonna do it.
00:24:54
Speaker
It was a good suggestion. But yeah, we're not too much are Austin because he is great. You just ain't seen the vision yet. And that's fine. You soon will. I see the vision. I just see it just like John Cena. And... I mean, you could tell that's his favorite wrestler. You can. You can very much so. And... Then then where's the personality? Because Cena had personality. I think that... That was the only thing Cena had. I think that like Austin Theory is a better wrestler than John Cena.
Wrestling Talent Development
00:25:26
Speaker
But I think that Austin Theory, he still, when you really think about it, he got moved up so fast that he's still finding himself, but he's finding himself on the main roster. There's nothing wrong with that because that's how it used to be back in the day. We're just not used to that. Now we want everybody to be who they is and this is your character instead or whatever. So I don't know, I think that once he turns
00:25:51
Speaker
Cause he's never been on the main roster as a face. So once he turns face with this whole thing that's going to happen with him and, um, Grayson Waller, I remembered his name. Um, I think that we may get a different side of Austin and maybe even more moves and stuff that we haven't seen yet. And, you know, may change people's minds that people that don't like him at or only like him because of his body. it not not you calling me out like that but i know it was not just you there's a people that that you know like he I've seen just people they lust over that man they do I don't I don't lust over him I lust over women but um his body is great though what did they know they don't know
00:26:43
Speaker
and Not everyone knows, Donnie. Just sayin'. Gotta keep a secret to some people. I'm sorry, I'll be airing you out. Terrell do be airing CT out. I hate that. I hate that from CT. Every time. Cause it couldn't be me, I had to fight back. He gonna lay down every time. Every time. Every time. I would like CT baby, stand up. Stand up, CT. Please. I do not lay down. Every time I try to fight back, it's something else. So it's just... You lose. You don't know how to fight back. That's the problem. It's a lose it's a lose loseose situation.
00:27:24
Speaker
But um anyway, so the matches yesterday were let me get this correct. that We have the men's money in the bank match, which had Andrade, Camarillo Hayes, who else is that damn match? L.A. L.A. Knight. um ah Drew McIntyre, who won the match? um dr Drew Drew. Who else?
00:27:54
Speaker
LA Knight, let me see who was in that thing. Dang, who was in that match? Oh, yeah did we say carmala haes we said We said... I did. Jay Uso, I think it's Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay Jay
00:28:39
Speaker
um he is not in a bank would have been final out and e he I see him as a mid-card champion like let him be Sammy for the belt but that's about it I can see him as a world champion only transitional though I don't see it going over so basic um like what Damian Priest is doing Yeah, I can see it being like because he has worked. He's were kind of worked his ass off. if We can't lie. He's worked his ass off. Oh, no, he has since his brother has been injured the first time. Yeah. Yeah. So I think he deserves something. I think he deserves a very lengthy intercontinental championship run. But oh, what was I about to say? But um I can see him having like a month, month and a half, two month world title world title run.
00:29:30
Speaker
He definitely a't being good there for us. Oh, no, he can't let it up. No, he can't have that one in a row. It's going to just slam slam him into the ground. Ain't no main event over there, Damian Priest. I can't wait till then enough. Supercute to the world. But I am finally happy about not to jump to the other match, but what I am finally happy about is the thin baller turning on Damian, how he'd been looking at him and just giving him these dirty looks. And but it happened too late. It did. I think that could make it work. I think they can make I don't know how the, I don't know how they're going to make it work. It doesn't, it doesn't make, sense because the payoff for me would have been in baller beating Damien for the belt. How does that work now when Gunther is is going to fight Damien? Well, I think now you have a little bit of extra time to kind of figure out how it's going to work now because we have lived now.
00:30:30
Speaker
And so you still have to elongate the, I almost said the bloodline, the, um, Judgment day. Judgment day. You almost have to elongate their situation anyway, because we have to wait for Rita to come back. She coming back in the day now. we Right. She comes back any day. And so you have to wait for that to come back. That her storyline with the Judgment Day and with Liv have to play out. And so we don't know if that's going to happen simultaneously or is it going to kind of like, they go be someone do like the bloodline did.
00:31:01
Speaker
I don't know, but hope he doesn't I hope it doesn't happen sometimes. So but what I will see say is that her goal, I think that her and her and Finn Balor's goal from the beginning was to break up the bloodline. Now this is a long time coming, but it seems as if Finn and her are plotting or something together, somehow, some way. I don't know. um Them winning the tag team belts kind of throws everything off a little bit. It didn't make really any sense to me Please do whatever you got to do to get it off of them jokers Because me isn't truth. Why? It was cute feel good for a day um I believe that they're probably gonna fight them at SummerSlam because it's in the middle and they're probably gonna win I don't see missing truth holding it past August
00:31:58
Speaker
At least I wouldn't do that and if I were WWE. I would get that belt off the ground as soon as possible. You know they don't have the belts now, right? No, I think he's saying he they will win it back and then hold it through. him But the pay-per-view's in August, so how could he say that they can't see them holding it past August today? Oh yeah, the pay-per-view's in August today. Who were you talking about? Oh yeah, August is next one. Well, I retract that statement. No, then they shouldn't even be in the conversation at this point.
00:32:26
Speaker
They shouldn't have been in the conversation in the beginning. You know, the creeds need to get up in there. To me, Los authorials need to get off it. Well, they are, they're on smell. What happened to this draft being that we're going to have fresh tag teams in these divisions? so have to that promise joe The reason why is because they, they did the draft to basically get, make it better for each roster. And they didn't do that. Smackdown is very better for women where raw is better for the men um but at the same time We ain't seen anything. We ain't seen you Raw has the white six six and then the ah black they bloodline i don't know our wife i'm so I'm over them you over them already. Why are you saying? No, I'm not over them. I'm over these damn packages and them talking
00:33:23
Speaker
Donny, I need them to get in the ring and start attacking more people. You can't just attack one person and not know you should be attacking people every week. And quiet as is kept when they attack Chad Gable, he should have been out for at least a month. He got shot in the head. I don't know what that was. So bludgeoned. I don't know. He still wrestled. I don't think they got it through miraculously. I don't think that I don't think they thought that through. They didn't. I thought that they were ah like leading up to it to to leading up to it and the little things that they were saying, like, oh, you don't say um thank you anymore. Like all that stuff was cool. I got that or whatever them attacking him was cool. But having him back the next week, like nothing ever happened, didn't make any sense.
00:34:06
Speaker
No, no sense at all. But what do you do? um So ah the the men's money in the bank match was not as good as the women's. It definitely was not. The women ate that up. The spots that they had. Oh, shout out to Zoe. Zoe Starks. What spot spot are you talking about, the one where she missed and hit her head on there? Yes. Well, actually, that one in every spot after that for her.
00:34:38
Speaker
She is good in the rain. She is good in the rain. She's so good. But I don't know why it's not trans. The people do not care. what's You know what's worse about about what's worse than getting booed? No reaction. Exactly. No reaction. Baby, and they gave her nothing. They gave her zero. And I don't know why. Do you blame the people? What does she bring to the table? A good move said, but no personality. See, let me tell you something, Terrell, the makeup of a wrestler that what makes them good is, yes, you can be great in the ring all you want. You can do flips and tricks, motion, you slide through the ropes, all that fun stuff, right? But if you have no personality and can't talk, nobody will care. So basically what you're saying, that's not true. Look at AEW. People watch that every week. Most of them people ain't got no personality.
00:35:32
Speaker
I mean, look at their ratings, so that lets you know.
Critique of Individual Wrestlers
00:35:35
Speaker
But but does the casual fan care? Are they bringing in the casual fans? That's the reason why WWE is making all this money right now. Setting record profits is because of the casual fans. They're not. Not the hardcore wrestlers. They're not. That's A. those promise They're carrying into the hardcore. And hardcore is the only reason why they're still in business. And Tony Khan is rich as hell, and he's just blowing his money. Like if Zoe went over to AW, she would probably prosper. She would prosper. Drive over there. They will love her. But the she, she needs a personality in WWE. The entertainment part of it. Exactly. She was on NXT. She was doing way, way better because she was a face and people actually liked her. Um, then she got injured and it was just downhill from there.
00:36:26
Speaker
But even on NXT, I remember a common detractor with her being on NXT was, oh my God, this girl is so good, but oh my God, she is so bland. People keep saying that too. It's like she can't win. She's like, you can't. She's like a Shayna Baszler, but duller. And how's that possible? I don't know. Because Shayna is already as dull as like an unsharpened pencil. Yeah, but Shayna has something that she know She's funny. She don't have two have to talk though. She don't. She's scary. look Not looking, but you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, she gives Shayna magic. She'll be fine. Yeah. But even when Shayna talks, she's entertaining. Very entertaining. I like Shayna Baszler. She's very dry, but it's very dry. like Yeah. It's like a little boy. he's like ah It's like an annoying little boy. and how fuck but it worked But the thing, it works with her in-ring presence. That's why.
00:37:24
Speaker
It does. That's why she didn't do that. She gets that. She's in because of that. Well, then the same thing I have to say, what I said about Austin theory is with Zoe Starks. They moved her up too fast and she didn't get a chance to grow that that character. Donnie, Donnie, Donnie, she did. She was like, now is the time. And they miss they really, really missed the opportunity to develop something last night with just being the host and Zoe being that the latter man. They missed the opportunity for that. But you can't stick Zoe with 1500 different people and expect for her to grow a personality at a certain point. I'm going to need for her to get like, like girl, give me something like you're so she's probably one of the more talented people on the roster, male or female.
00:38:17
Speaker
on the main roster. But we don't we can't connect with her. well We can't even connect with her as a heel. Like you said, we give her nothing. Not even booze. Not even booze. That's not what you want. That's not what he was supposed to do. I was happy for Chelsea Green. I feel like she deserved to win. I do feel that way. I feel like she's giving a lot to the company. And she won't take a bump. Baby, because they don't know about how Ms. Chelsea Green. Yeah, she take a bump. I don't know how her body is still together after all them bumps she's been taking for over the years. Baby, she fell off that ladder. I said, oh my God, somebody somebody check on her wrist. Yes, that wrist. You know that wrist made out of paper mache. Baby, I was i was so worried about that girl wrist. I said, girl, Lord, I was praying that that thread was still around her joints.
00:39:15
Speaker
Because and we all know, we all know, baby, when the, when the floss snaps, the floss really snaps and things fall apart when it comes to Ms. Chelsea Green. Chelsea Green. She was doing it. She was doing it. She was throughout that whole match. who Her, her, she was throughout the whole match. Naomi was throughout the whole match. You know who I forgot was in the match though, for a minute there. Who? Tiffany? Oh. like i my carrie oh
00:39:47
Speaker
Oh, the one that don't, the one that don't wear shoes to the ring or is that somebody else? If I don't wear shoes to the ring. There's like a bird. You see like a bird or whatever. What do you mean I don't wear shoes to the ring? There was one of them like that, one of the Viking people that was like that. You're talking about Sarah Logan. You're getting them confused. I'm sorry. Sarah Logan is pregnant at home. Sarah Logan again? That one, yeah. Sarah Logan, ah I'm sorry. i got Why are we even talking about her, CT? I don't understand. Where does she even come from?
00:40:19
Speaker
because Because when you said Valkyria, I had got confused from the other women. That's her name. My bad. Not vibarial speechy Valkyria. Valkyria. Okay, so she does wear the shoes. Okay, yeah. She's kind of a moral of the story. I don't even think I said her last name. I think I just said her first name, Lyra. Oh, lot of okay. i was you My bad. Lyra, you never seen the podcast. I apologize. I'm sorry. that you missed the set with might I forgot she was in that home. yeah Clearly, so does CT, because he was talking about someone completely different. Mahala. She had a... Oh, it is Mahala. Hang it up. Yeah, like yeah yeah like that Assassin's Creed game. Like, no sis, you're not Mahala, please. Trying to act Viking. You ain't Viking, baby. It's not anyhoo. I'm not even gonna get on that, because I don't really check for her, for real. But... oh
00:41:19
Speaker
Lyra had a nice spot with EO. Yes. And that was i still got it. She's trying to do that DDT on the turnbuckle. Yeah, that's okay. They recovered though. It was a little wonky, but it was alright. It was wonky, but they they pulled it they pulled it back together. Tiffany did good. I still don't feel that she should have won. I don't feel like she needed to win.
00:41:47
Speaker
Yeah, I said that she deserved to win. I don't feel like I don't know if deserves the right word to use. Who's y'all? Who's y'all? When I say y'all, I'm not talking about y'all. I'm talking about it in general. Because people are like, oh, she deserves it on the internet. I'm like, wow, I deserve. I said Chelsea deserves it because she's put a lot in. Naomi deserves it because she's proven herself. But Tiffany's only been there for five months and then two of those months to a a month and a half, she was off TV because of the whole thing she said. And then on top of that, I don't believe that she did not hear the audio because it wasn't a repost. If it was a repost, I could, I could believe that you didn't hear the audio. You saved the video.
00:42:32
Speaker
and uploaded it yourself to your, yoursta to your Instagram. So there's no way that at those points, you did not listen to see what it said. If it even had audio or not, it just doesn't make any sense. And then on top of that, she ever the person that interviewed her gave her the answer to the damn thing. He was like, um, so I just want to bring it up. You don't have to talk about it if you don't want to, but the video that you posted, did you not hear the audio? And she's like, yeah, I didn't hear the audio.
00:43:03
Speaker
Why'd you ask her the question if you gave her the answer inside the question? Again, when has this chick ever made sense? I don't believe that she- I don't like Tiffany though. Yeah, I don't believe that she didn't hear the audio. I think that might've just been an easy out, but also- I don't think that she understood. I'll give her that. I don't think that she understood, but also like when I post things on Instagram, my phone is on silent. So sometimes I do post things and not realize it's odd, even if I do save it, even even if it's in my phone. dont listen Yeah. Yeah. Like if I'm going, if I'm going just based off of the was rolling visually.
00:43:41
Speaker
or somebody saying something ru visual just in case. I don't know. Maybe that's me. And then in the platform that she's in the platform, I think that it was irresponsible. I think that my platform is not her platform. So I can afford to not to make a blunder like that. She can't afford to do that, but also and then be true about it. Just be real about it. and If that was the case and you realize that you took that video down so fast, why not just you post right after I'm i'm so sorry I didn't listen to the audio? Yeah. You never even addressed it until someone brought it up to you. Yeah. it She's a white girl in her early 20s. She could have apologized in behind the scenes. No, and no, no, but it didn't just affect people behind the scenes. You're right. You're right. No, that's true. That's very true. But I think her being a white woman in her early 20s, she doesn't know. I feel like something like that is... That's the problem. She should know now. With everything that's gone on over the last four years, ah not knowing... She's old enough to know. Exactly. And she should know. She needs to do better. But I think that as far as, like, just getting ahead of it,
00:44:52
Speaker
She should have just gotten ahead of it as she took it out. It could have been so easy. It could have been easy. I listened to the audio. I'm so sorry, guys. yeah and and we and we've been like oh yeah It so I had her in our graphic. I had them change it because I'm not i'm trying to be on the right side of history. Maybe she just tiptoed. She got burned. I don't think she's using us of taking up for her. i think I the definitely like Tiffany. She's amazing in the ring. I feel like she her character does work. She just needs a little practice on her lines because they sound rehearsed. um They don't sound genuine. um Even when she can't act the same one, you can tell it was rehearsed um because she started to fumble over the words and she but she caught herself. um And it's the same thing I need. and I don't I don't know. I just need a little bit more from her and
00:45:44
Speaker
I feel that since she's still dating Luig from um Imperial, I don't know why she's on SmackDown. I think that this is the perfect opportunity to get her to go to Raw and cash in over there at SummerSlam because they need more women and she could be a top star on Raw because they who do they have right now? Yeah, I can see her versus Liv kind of cooking. Yeah, because her being over here on her being over here on SmackDown. I feel like there's a SmackDown card is so heavy with so much talent. Not to say that Rob doesn't have talent in the female division, but I feel like she is the shade in that face. I feel like she she can get overlooked or over because like, let's be real.
00:46:37
Speaker
I'm not going to believe that she's going to beat Nia Jax ever. No, but all her good moves or whatever. Um, I can't even see her rolling up Nia Jax for a win real quick. It's just not, you know, other, the other women on the card, I could see that happening. and Like, Oh, you roll Nia J. You beat her.
WWE Women's Division Future
00:46:53
Speaker
You know, but with Tiffany, I don't know. I feel like Tiffany's not a wrestler that's going to win a match with a roll up. Like she's going to use her finisher. Like I just, I don't know. Yeah. That's just my thoughts. Um, But I think that, yeah, she should go over there. I can see her competing, fighting against Liv, Liv, even Rhea when she comes back. Who else do they got? That's a good question. I don't know who else they got. Lyra. Oh, Lyra. Those would be some good ass matches. It would be such a good match because, you know. It would be a good match. It would be a good match. The match would cook.
00:47:35
Speaker
Yes. It might cook on low, but it's going to be like a slow cooker. We're going to be cooking for hours. A rice cooker. A rice cooker. That's even worse. A slow cooker. You could put a little more into a slow cooker. Yeah. It's not going to have no seasoning and greens in there. No, definitely not going to have nothing to taste with it. Is it going to be very slow? Maybe some seasoning. I would say maybe like a Greek seasoning. Black pepper. That's that's pretty that's pretty pretty much it. Black pepper and salt. Salt. That's it. That's all they're getting. Garnish. Garnish. Yes. Chives. From Hell's Kitchen to garnishes. That's what they're going to have. Parsley. Smoked paprika. That's all they're going to have though. They ain't going to have nothing else. I mean, I like the beat. I like the beat. I do. Yeah. So what do you think they're going to go with Naomi now?
00:48:28
Speaker
to me. Because they've been teasing something. They have. And you know me, I've been saying it. We need the big three as a hill. Yes, you have been saying this since day one. I've been saying this since day one, baby. I might be on that agenda now. Heel Naomi is one of my favorite versions of Naomi. And you know what's so funny is that she does not like to be a heel. She said that, but she's a better heel than she is a face. She's, yeah she but I feel like she'll be a good face if she wasn't the same character for the past 10 years, you know? And she can still like, so how Bianca, if they do this right, how Bianca is a heel works because she's not really a heel, but she's not really a face. She's kind of in between. Yes. So if they do the three of them like that word, they're like, we do that bitch.
00:49:12
Speaker
Like, you know, like that should really be where that bitch type of. Yes. Yes. And we know what type of deal Jane is good. It's so, so good as a heel. Jane has really figured out what face Jane is. Yeah. But you know again, they they brought her up so fast that she's still trying to figure it out. She's still figuring it out. And that's why they put her with Bianca, who knows who she is. Yes. Well, you know, the fans are very impatient, too. So they were rushing her up there, too. I've been said that she needed some training. No. If the fans rushed her, she would have probably wrestled that sick at night. Mm-hmm. I don't think we were at the restroom. Her first match was WrestleMania, wasn't it? Yep. Now, because we don't count the Roy Rumble. No. Yep. I don't count the Rumble.
00:49:59
Speaker
And now she's taking like bumps and certain things. So she's, she's getting in there. And she's selling like she's, she's really growing. She's quiet he's' selling really good. You know what I thought was cool that I seen and and and passing on Naomi's story is that they get ready together. You don't really see it, but and that's that you don't see it, but Naomi posted like something. She was putting her eyelashes in the mirror and you could see Jade on the side of her. And I was like, Oh, they get ready together. I said, that's good that the black women are getting ready together. I love that. I love Cause I feel like that's something that's understood in the locker room to where it's like not a us versus them, but because we are here, we're going to get ready together. I feel, I really liked that. Yeah. And, and you know what? And the reason why I like to go back to Tiffany Stratton, her character and everything like that, I just certain when you see her in interviews,
00:50:50
Speaker
Like not interviews out there on TV, but like behind the scenes type interviews, you could tell that she's really a nice person. So I really don't think that she is racist. I don't think that she, but you still gotta do better. Yeah. You gotta make wiser decisions. I think she's one of those that. And her voice changes to this voice that she does on TV is not the voice, her normal voice. It's not, it's very Paris Hilton versus Paris Hilton. And I feel like, I feel like that's what she's trying to go for. It's Paris Hilton type, you know. I mean, she's a diva. She's a Barbie doll character, a rich person's daughter character. So, but she's along with that. Yeah. Currently she hadn't had no other. She ain't ever talked about her daddy in a minute. Whoever that is, her daddy is Trump.
00:51:41
Speaker
be a Very interesting fault, I'll say. Um, but. Like Terrell said, I'm not gonna piggyback off of it. But I was gonna say is, Tiffany reminds me of somebody that just doesn't understand the error of her ways sometimes. Like, you know how to how they be sometimes. They be like, they say things and they just, the folks, you know, you know how they be. Which folks? Yeah, say it CT. YT folks, you know, y'all know how they be. You say YT? White folks. White white white women specifically.
00:52:16
Speaker
white people sometimes y'all do shit and y'all say shit that ain't cool but we know y'all don't really mean it sometimes exactly sometimes we don't sometimes you're very racist yeah Yeah, she's one of those people that she said that and she probably didn't know the error of her ways because, you know, how she came up. That's that's what I'm assuming. OK, you know, I don't think that she's racist neither because if she was, then i I will say, have you guys seen this is so it's not off topic, but it kind of is ah Jane, Jane. What's her name, Jane? What's her last name, Jane? Elliot. Elliot, thank you.
00:52:57
Speaker
Jane Elliot with the blue eyes, brown eyes theory, race theory. is ah have seems toly Okay. So Jane Elliot, who's a white woman says that all white people are racist unless they try really hard not to be racist. And the reason why they're racist is because they benefit from society the way that it is, and they don't want things to change. So inherently you're automatically racist, even though you you don't do nothing or whatever. You see something, for instance, when 2020 happened and we see these.
00:53:30
Speaker
Black people protesting. What white people seeing was, oh, they're rioting. And they're destroying things. Oh, they're thugs. Yes. Oh, but as soon as January 16th happened, they were patriots. Exactly. Oh, they're patriots for the country. It was rigged, y'all. Yeah. And then when they bring up storming the Capitol, they bring up storming the Capitol. Their defense was, well, Black people were destroying businesses and they he said a whole bunch of money. That's not a defense for... You can't even defend your stance without Going off of someone else's stance, that's not even an actual stance. I always ask, don't don't respond to what I'm doing. Let me know what you're doing. There were some white folks and Hispanics riding those businesses too. That's not talking about you. And quiet as it's kept, if y'all seen the stuff, cops were destroying things too. Exactly. To make it look like... I've seen videos. We're not going to talk about how Antifa was busing people to
00:54:27
Speaker
actual protests and causing them look, and then just letting the protesters take the blame for it. Thank you. But I say all that to say, um, let me reel it back in and yeah that, context yes, she may not necessarily be racist, but what is, what is racism look like?
Future Storylines and Rivalries
00:54:47
Speaker
And I feel like that WWE needed to have an inclusion type of course for her. I don't know if they gave her one, but if they did give her one, then an apology should have been had, even if it was just, again, I did not hear the audio. no I'm sorry if I defended anybody. That was never my intent. This is not who I am as a person. But I feel like the reason why they didn't let her do that is because she's a heel. Who cares if she gets a little hate in its racial thing? It works for us.
00:55:21
Speaker
yes And again, that starts at the top. That's just how WWE was founded and and been built on for the last five decades. They take blood money from Saudi Arabia. this so i don't feel nothing if frightening is as a person as As a good character person, no matter if they said, oh, you don't have to do this, you don't have to apologize or whatever. If you have a good character, you're going to apologize anyway. Goes back to that theory. if she would if If she wanted to, she would have cleared it up the day it happened.
00:55:52
Speaker
She should have, but I think also you got a, cause it's a lot of wheels that's turning there. You got WWE PR machine that's turning. Does WWE PR have cultural competency? We don't know. Then you have to try and with her young white womanness, that's not an excuse, but she's operating out of that lens. So a lot of things, it's not going to be a problem for her. ah Right off the cuff unless it's brought to her attention cuz she wouldn't know I just think that like exactly she was on NXT She was on you and PN XT Exactly. My point. There's no way that she didn't like most of the women down there or minorities. So there's no way that you didn't didn't I Don't know. There's just no way you didn't know again again. Like like I said, they'd be in their own world man Don't don't be current
00:56:43
Speaker
if it's not a particular day, money? I can't wait until someone interviews Jade and asks her about it. Did Tiffany ah let us? Come on, Jade. That's exactly what I want to know. Yeah, yeah because Tiffany gonna say whatever. How did you feel, Jade? One, and then two, does she apologize to you for it? Because I think I want to know. Honestly, if there was an apology, it should have gone to Jade. It's a large platform, more than Jade saw it, but Jade was the subject of the video. So if there was an apology, it should have went to Jade. No, definitely. We don't know if there was an apology or not. Yeah, but I still stand by. She needed to apologize for it to everybody. No, because you were loud with it. You need to be loud with the apology. Yes. It's how I'm coming. Yep. And it should have been a public apology to Jade.
00:57:31
Speaker
It should have been, but maybe now she understands. If you're a heel, yeah, you're supposed to hate me. I don't give but give a damn. Apologize. yeah We're supposed to hate you. We're supposed to hate you in wrestling. We're supposed to hate your character, not you as a person. Not you as a person. Thank you. it Maybe she understands now how her position in the society as a white woman. And I think we kind of saw it this past weekend, how You could be rewarded for faulty behavior, but I think now she understands, you know, she's in a system to which she could benefit from. Sometimes that benefit, those benefits aren't always cognitive. And so hopefully she understands now that as a white woman, I need to be very careful and intentional with
00:58:20
Speaker
the things that come out of my mouth or the things that I post and things like that. Yes, I 100% agree. But back to Naomi, what would you guys want for her? As I posed the question earlier, we kind of abridged over. Donnie answered. um I'm not going to repeat what he said, but I think that first time a heel turn is should happen at summertime. That's how I do it differently. And I think she needs to whoop the fuck out of Bailey. Whoop Bailey ass from the time the sun rise in the morning to the time that summer bitch go down at night. I need her to be on a on Bailey's ass like white on white. Because it's going to be the only way that she needs to whoop Bailey ass.
00:59:07
Speaker
That's the only way she can turn heels. That's going to be the only way. And I need her to get that title. That's what I'm saying. She needs to go get that title and my good girls need to go get their tag titles back. Yes. And what's funny is that, what's funny is that, you know, like she may be hated by everybody else, but the black community going to be cheering. That's almost definitely. I'm a champion no matter what. um like light I like black heels.
00:59:36
Speaker
And give me back Bianca as a heel, because that's my favorite version of Bianca. Oh, NXT. He'll Bianca, he'll Naomi and he'll Jade. he I might come. The holy trick. I'm not dumb. yeah
00:59:55
Speaker
diabetes Give me a towel now. I'm fucking done. oh done oh bad Give me a towel now. yeah Just from staring at them, I'd be excited. and So imagine that it was heels. Because please talk to me like that. Ooh. Ooh. I can feel my body jumping already. You know, my favorite thing in Naomi wasn't a heel at this time. But remember when she was feuding with Mandy Rose over Jimmy? She attacked her in that that hotel room. I just remember her saying, Jimmy's like, you got her. And she's like, I didn't get her how I wanted to get her.
01:00:31
Speaker
And all of their kids' praises.
01:00:35
Speaker
All those catchphrases are going to go together. Like, yeah imagine Jade telling the cameraman of. Damn, what was it she used to say in AEW? Cut the shit. Oh, yeah. Oh, baby. I got to hear that. There will be no there will be on Netflix for all. She should be on this episode. Girl. Uh-uh. Come on now. Right. Come on now. Like the money right itself. The the money is bringing this up at this point. I mean, and then you got three established Hills and your women's division that you can build around and get some basis over. It's right there. Yeah.
01:01:19
Speaker
It's easy. It was a problem, baby. Cause they ain't, they, they ain't seen a problem yet. no No, but I also on a note of Naomi, I also would not mind her being folded into the bloodline saga some type of way at some point. How does that work now that her? Like, how does that work now? I don't know. They're they're going family, family now with Jacob and stuff. I don't think she can say now jacob Jacob would need to get a fee. He would he would either need to get to right there or Naya. That's a way that it can work. You can't say family, family, because
01:01:57
Speaker
fuck up and his brother are there.
01:02:03
Speaker
Oh, I didn't have family. Damn, that's Trinity, more family than they are. She got the last name. What are you talking about? Not you saying that. he's So you really want to know what's funny? What's funny is they call it the bloodline and no shade on the rock or whatever. But technically the rock is not blood because his mom was adopted by their family. But it's still blood. Oh, so what kind of account they didn't claim that heritage? He don't give a damn. He's going to claim saying was with his grandpa claims.
01:02:35
Speaker
um um Tomatanga and Tomalo's dad as his uncle. And then he rakishi was tag partners with them. So they all grew up together, the kids. Yeah. So I mean, just like we do in the black family, that's your mama's best friend is your auntie, same shit. Yeah, same shit. Basically, yeah. But their situation is different than Rock's, because Rock's has that blood type. It is definitely, definitely. And then I was trying to figure out for the longest how Nya was related, because Nya's on Rock's side. Exactly. So Nya's on Rock's side. So she's still cousin. She's still cousin. So your cousin on your dad's side.
01:03:26
Speaker
is your cousin on your mom's side, cousin? Because that's basically what it is. That's basically what it is. So, yes, that's a black family right there. Or something like some of my some of my brothers, some of my brothers cousins, I call them my cousins and we're not related at all. Exactly. But that's kind of. my thing Oh, the ones that ah got the different parent. I do like that Naya and Naomi are really close, though. Yeah. Like for, for Nya to invite her to her baptism and she's the only one that went out of the girls. That says a lot. But you know, they, Nya and Tamina, they all are included into the cousins. So. Wish they should, you know, but yeah, they're, they're all family at this point. So family. Who are you telling them that they ain't family?
01:04:21
Speaker
Because my who you ain't telling my cousin he human he not my cousin doing My cousin today there cuz if I say he my cousin and he my cousin that's what he might He might be fifth or sixth cousin, but he's okay. Let me say that right? We just say cousin. Yeah, I never said oh, that's my third cousin my mama's daddy uncle side Oh, no, no, no, we no, we don't we don't say it i'm I'm just give me an example. But somebody asked him. Yeah, that's my example. That's my fifth cousin. But he like good if somebody asks, we wouldn't say that. I have a I'm close with a fifth cousin. Fun fact. I hope most of you calling them. All right. No, I'm saying that here that this fifth cousin, but I I just called him cousin. OK.
01:05:09
Speaker
Well, I ain't got no first cousins. So all of my cousins, I just call cousin, unless you're old enough to be my auntie or my uncle, I call you auntie or uncle.
Controversial Wrestling Outcomes
01:05:16
Speaker
I see that. And they'll be my mama's cousins. I mean, they still my cousins, but her cousins. I get it. I get it. Anyways, back, back to it. So we had Damien, Priest and Seth. Seth won that match. That ref did not count through. I don't know if it was a WWE fucked up. If it was a Damien Priest fucked up, somebody fucked up. Either Damien Priest got knocked really hard. Because he did not kick out. He didn't even move. And forgot where he was. Or Drew was supposed to come early. Or not early. Or that was supposed to hit. Right. i think june I think it was a combination of Damien got knocked out and Drew music hit late. Because you can tell by Rollins' reaction that he was kind of confused. Yeah. Even when Drew music hit, it didn't make, like, it was like,
01:06:02
Speaker
It felt late. I don't know how to explain it. felt like out like i see what that one i see now was just like I think that his music was supposed to hit before the three. and Yeah, it was. That's why the ref pulled up. And it it hit like way after the three. Way after the three. One, two. And all his shoulders up. Like what? show The shoulders are still down. If you actually look at it, the ref actually hit three on the ground. He he did. He did hit three. He just you called two. was able to stand up, do two, and then the music hit. Like, if it would have been the three and then the music hit right after that, it would have been a distraction where we'd have been like, oh shit, or whatever we might not have noticed, but it was, yeah there was too many seconds went by and we seen that. And I don't know why Seth's mad at CM Punk, baby. He needs to be mad at Drew. be Well, I don't know.
01:06:53
Speaker
He needs to be mad at Drew because Drew knocked down his chances. He still could have won the match though. He could. I think Seth's the ultimate CM Punk hater anyway, so... Seth already didn't like CM Punk. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, so it just made sense that he's gonna be mad as hell at him for messing up his match. Now CM Punk gotta watch his front and his back. My thing is, Phil, baby, all you got to do is call me because we ain't gonna do no jumping. We ain't gonna do no jumping. I know that that's what we ain't gonna do. Y'all both gonna get jumped together. Mm hmm. You know, I'm gonna kick somebody dog all the way across the room like he did Kenny Omega dog. I'm fucking done. Self with your dog. Because it ain't no it ain't no way where that um Drew McIntyre makes it a triple threat match and I'm going to be mad at CM Punk.
01:07:46
Speaker
Because he made it he made it a triple three match. This is why you could be mad at CM Punk. I'm gonna tell you why. Okay. Because Drew could have won. He would have won. He would have beat him. Yeah. So that means that Seth could then now challenge Drew for the belt. But because CM Punk got involved, Damien Priest won. Seth can no longer fight for that title as long as Damien has that belt. So now I'm gonna be mad at Drew. But Drew got pinned. Because of who? Because of CM Punk. My thing is if CM Punk has already said out loud, as long as I'm here, june Drew McIntyre will never win the WWE championship or the World Heavyweight Championship as long as I got something to do with it. And he goes into a match that's already said, makes it a triple threat match and loses because he knows the person that just said what they said is there. I just don't understand.
01:08:44
Speaker
Why would you cash in and make it a triple threat? Why wouldn't you just wait? untils Exactly. it That's what I'm saying. Because it went from a 50 50 chance to a 33.33 to a 33.33 to another 33.33. So you are you already decreased everybody else chances by inputting your business is where it didn't belong. Yeah. But yeah yeah, I would I would still be mad at I would be mad at the both of them I'll be mad at both but Drew McIntyre He he yeah, um and the restaurant I'll be mad at the damn rest to to be honest s sovio Because that's really be mad at anybody you need to be mad at that ref if I don't be mad at anybody Maybe that refs taking all of my anger. Yes, this place anger this place anger. Yes, it is. Mm-hmm
01:09:27
Speaker
they They wouldn't be displaced. Very much so Very much so earned anchor. So were y'all expecting Drew McIntyre to show up after he won? Oh, definitely. Yeah. that je Drew was gun-cashing that night, and I expected seeing Punk to come out there and cost him that. That that was a giveaway. So why self-den? That ain't none of his concern. He was worried about one thing and one thing only. Couldn't, because at a certain point he was worried about two. Well, I don't think that he is expected it. Well, no, they did expect him to come out and interrupt the match. They knew he was coming out there. They know they both of them kept looking at the ramp. Mm hmm. Because, you know, this nigga is hungry for this bill. He just won the case. And you're not going to expect them to come. Yeah. And to transfer the property, if A equals B and B equals C, then A must equal C. So this nigga come and then feel must be not must not be too far behind him.
01:10:25
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, the ref got to get all the punches. Mm hmm.
01:10:35
Speaker
Yeah, I blame Drew because you brought two extra problems to a match. See, I don't think it's clear. Because the way that what was it last week, the way that um Drew dropped him on that ramp, I'm like, I must be better. Just let that boy go. And he landed on that arm. So he must be cleared. And then Seth was cleared quick. Didn't he just have surgery not too long ago? I thought so. He did. Seth's been out for three months and he's back already. Yeah, and had surgery though. It must not have been that expensive. He's a beast. I'm not going to lie. It must have been something minor though. It wasn't too big. Well, I don't know. Because he was wrestling for like three years with a fucked up bat. Because shit basically broke. I'm so paused.
01:11:26
Speaker
I don't think that back thing was a real thing. No. I think that that was just a storyline. I don't honestly think his back was messed up. If his back was really messed up, he would have been took time off. I don't know about that, but I just don't think because how you come up into this match now and we ain't talking about your back no more. I don't know. I don't think I don't think his back was actually ever injured or really hurt. I think they were just saying that because he was holding this title and made it look like he was doing way more and putting on more than he actually was. I thought I remember him injuring his back and he was just wrestling with a bad back. I think they said that but I don't think he actually did injure it. oh um But that leg was... and when was that the same leg that he had surgery on years ago? It's always the same leg. Yeah. That leg not gonna let him loose at all.
01:12:18
Speaker
Oh. Bless it. So to fast forward, I felt like the Judgment Day match was ah not a waste of time, but it was, I expected more from it. Like it was underwhelming. I think somebody else was going to come out. Thank you. I'm sorry. I said Judgment Day. I'm sorry. I'm doing you a bloodline. Oh. doing to me, but no. No, because you couldn't think of what the judgment day and bloodline, you were about to call him that earlier. Oh yeah, you're right. ah and You just want to be defensive. I wasn't even trying to save you. I have to stay ready. Yeah. Um, but I felt like I was like, okay, I was expecting something exciting to happen because Triple H unsaid. We're going to see some surprise. I got Jimmy was coming back because he was advertised for next week. Um, but we didn't get nothing.
01:13:07
Speaker
I mean, solo was the focal point, so of course it wasn't going to get anything. Like, oh, we could see Jay being a champion way before solo. Definitely. in it and it quite And if anybody need to hold that title, it need to be Jacob, not solo. I can see Jacob being a champion before any of them jokers. Yes, because Jay included. oh And then they did trademark Tala Tama. So I'm assuming that their brother's going to come to David if he did the chamber, you know, the tall one, that's the brother. How many of these people don't have, bro? You don't like him either? Baby, Tomatanga was the best brother and he wasn't even that good. So, geez. I've seen the other one live. Gorilla's a destiny, baby. When I seen him, I didn't know that he was one of them because the n***a is so tall, he don't even look like a Samoan like that. Them as a tag team was great. Because it's Tonkin.
01:14:04
Speaker
Oh, yeah, the. You know what I mean? But even then, they all the same height. So so my question is, how many of these two are we going to have?
Fan Expectations and Match Critiques
01:14:14
Speaker
Because are we going to do a war games match when they're going to split them up when one comes back? Because what's going on? I don't know what's going to happen with that. I don't know either. At this point, I really don't know. Because it's like it's going to be going to be going to Scoopzilla is standing on Scoopzilla and then they're going to bring in Jimmy and Jay, little, little brother. Or like, I don't know. I just, I just, I don't know. It just, they're outnumbered right now. So even if, who, Roman and and the Usos would still need somebody else. Roman and the Usos would need a, they have been talking about, they have been talking about Jimmy J's and Solo's baby brother.
01:15:01
Speaker
He wrestled somewhere. Yes. And so they're only four of them. Yes. I know what he looks like. I just didn't. I didn't know he wrestled. And so that might actually be something. He's he's a Samoan. He wrestles like the rest of them. Yeah. Because they all got the same moves that they are. Jacob is the only person that has an actually good moveset. Yeah. They all got to say, they all got the same finisher. They all got the same move. It's a splash in the super kick. And a Samoa drop. And a Samoa drop, baby. That's it. And a running heel in the corner. Yes. And now they threw in the spear. Yeah. Fuck you, Roman, for bringing the spear in. Right? Because now they all about to do that. Mm-hmm.
01:15:52
Speaker
They already are. or At least the Usos is. Baby cuz. Give it up. Give it up. But yeah, that match was kind of. I was happy. It was underwhelming. Yeah, it was very underwhelming. I was happy Cody ate the pen though. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it it sets up something for them, but I'm just like, do I even want to see that? I mean, it was predictable to me. Like I knew they were going to win. I didn't expect Cody and them to win. But it just wasn't like we, most matches that we see are predictable, um and but they're good. It wasn't that it was a bad match, but it just wasn't good. It didn't fit my expectations. They didn't, they didn't let well that was one, they didn't let, um, Jacob in the ring long enough so he'd actually work because he can outwork out all of them put together.
01:16:47
Speaker
Yeah. and whent when he'd be close yeah Like I really want to see Jacob and Cody just go at it. I feel like we're going to get Cody and solo. I feel like for solos matches now they need to have them yeah always do something to cost that the person that matched to make solo look like, you know, kind of basically how Roman was looking. Yeah. Because it's not I'm not gonna believe that he's one-on-one gonna be Cody. Every match they need to interfere and make Solo win. I just don't. Because Solo's not that great. No, he's mid. Oh, before I but before i forget, because we're about to be off of this in a minute. Why does Sami Zayn win that fucking belt again? Or keep the belt? I'm tired of Sami. Because Terrell, we're in Canada.
01:17:44
Speaker
ah No, that's why he won when we was in Saudi Arabia because he was Muslim. That's what I'm saying, how many home countries has this nigga got? And then didn't he just win? then Weren't we just in Canada not too long ago when he won? Yeah, Terrell, you gotta give him that gotta give the hometown guy the hometown feel, man. Then if that was the case, Chelsea Green should have won. And it would have meant more than Sami Zayn. Mm-hmm. but But... Canada! I'm really happy right now. I don't even think the Canadians really care if Sammy kept going or not. No, they don't. I think they as tied of them as we are. It was honestly forced and embarrassing. That's all I'll say. Chad should be the champion right now, though, if we really want to talk about it. It's a joke. Chad should have been the champion. The match was great. He looked fantastic. He should have won a match, though. I felt like he should have kicked out of the Huluma Kick the first time. He should have.
01:18:42
Speaker
He should have kicked out of it the first time, and then they he did it again later, and then he won. So moving forward for the Anaconda Championship, who who are going to be our four names that we're going to build this around, excluding Sammy? Sammy being in the center, but. So Bron's going to still have to be there. Bron has to be there. Jack Gable. Absolutely. fucking Yes. I guess I'm going to have to say Jay Uso. OK. Yeah, I don't think that he's going to be main event like that. You want to stay right there? ah Yeah, um because he he's out of the world title picture. We ain't even thinking about him. No, um but he's so over right now that and unless we unless Roman comes back at SummerSlam, then we need him to recruit Jay and then Jay's out of that picture.
01:19:31
Speaker
um
01:19:34
Speaker
Who else? Who else is there? Because I would have said Dodger Kovac, but he got released. Yeah, they are. I'm sorry. He didn't get released. They didn't renew his contract. Yeah. And people are saying that reportedly he's going to be an AEW as early as next week. I didn't hear that at all. I believe that we do. We're going to go to him to see if we can get him on the podcast because he's doing he's doing bookings and podcasts. That could be the first one. you Oh, is he gonna read WWE for Phil? and um'm i need him And it's gonna get us views. Oh, it is. Well, you better go hit that email to real. I'm going to. And I'm trying to think.
01:20:17
Speaker
Finn. See how much that booking is. I might just slide a few dollars. I mean, not Finn. I didn't mean to say Finn. I actually meant to say Dominique. I'm sorry. Are you a fucking Dominique? No. i in that No, he's in that story picture with with what's-her-face right now, and then we're about to come back. He he it doesn't make no. Chad has his own story going on, too. He's not even supposed to be alive right now. So I think that... I think that Dominique... But that's insane. Not Dominique. Who else is there, though? Who else is there?
01:20:52
Speaker
That's a good question, I don't know. and know I can't name him. Luthwick? He's gonna be feuding with... What's his name? Dragunov? What's that guy's name? Oh, Dragunov. Oh, Dragunov! Dragunov, yeah. eat Boy, that's... Baby! Dragunov and Bron Breakker will feed families, okay? I need it to happen. I didn't see him before. I know, but I want to have a United States Championship on ah on on a big pay-per-view, or premium live in it, what they call them now. It had to feed his family because more than a yard did not feed his family, so um it had to. Oh, there's Braun Strowman there. Bronson Reed is also there. I don't want to see Braun anywhere near a championship. Braun Strowman. I mean, I don't want to see Braun Strowman at all. I know you're not a fan of Bronson Reed. I'm Bronson Reed, my boy.
01:21:44
Speaker
got get right so We'll go right into that like i like brason the world title picture. Yeah, I think so too. um could he could Could he not be as boring as he was last time? What are you talking about? Who? Braun Strowman. It was boring. Last time he was here, he was looking for Ricochet. What you say I didn't hear you CT? Oh, I was talking about Braun Strowman the last time he was in like the world title. I heard that, but that's the last thing you said. Oh, with Strowman Express, that was his thing. I don't remember that. When he was teaming with Ricochet? No, when he was the world champion. I don't even remember him being world champion, so I guess you're right. Oh, because technically he was never world champion. He was the universal champion.
01:22:38
Speaker
Universal. What year was this? 2021. Oh, during the pandemic? Right before Roman came back. Yeah, right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. rome roman
01:22:53
Speaker
spread out his guts great out ofs guts is crazy because roman spears don't be that impactful
01:23:01
Speaker
alron sttroman i mean bran breakers breakers now and if he had a spirit for this finisher i could believe it who brian strowman no breaker isn't that his finisher that's his signature no his finisher is something i was thinking if he had a if if the spear was his finisher i would be able to finish this finisher no that's he no no he no he set something else up with the spear no yeah he said We were talking about Braun Breaker, right? Yeah. Yeah. All of his matches that he's won on the main card have been with his spear. It wasn't with the flatliner. Flatliner. Braun Breaker don't do no flatliner.
01:23:47
Speaker
His other move was the power slam, where he picks him up the press and then throws him to a power slam. That was his other finisher. And then he just started using the spear. Yeah. did Even on NXT, the last year, he was using the spear as the finisher. Wow. Hmm. Flatliner. Has he been used to flatliner?
01:24:10
Speaker
Hmm. Hmm. Anyway. yeah Yeah, go look at his matches. Interesting. He said if if that was his finisher, I can believe it. Maybe that's what it is. That's why you can believe it. I was so dead. Oh my God. I was so dead. Shout out to Braun. Yeah. Braun Steiner. That's what his name need to be. That's actually his name. In real life. But that's that's what it should be in like, it needs to be Braun Steiner. I don't know why they didn't do that. Because we all know that that he's a Steiner. So it doesn't make any sense. like if we're ever going to And I remember this when he first appeared on NXT, I did not know at the time.
01:24:55
Speaker
And just looking at him, I said, oh, he kind of looks like Scott Steiner. And I was telling somebody that, and um I looked it up, and I said, oh, they're related. That's why he looked like him. He looked like him real bad. real like He looked more like his uncle than his daddy. He did his daddy. That's the crazy part. You the daddy.
Celebrating Wrestling Innovations
01:25:16
Speaker
What Jocelyn said? Jocelyn said, hey, grandma and the dad.
01:25:24
Speaker
He was a grandma with a mama.
01:25:31
Speaker
I'm so dead. Y'all are hilarious. I am so weak. Y'all are hilarious. Yeah. And he like, and I'm going to say this. I think my, one of my favorite tactics of all times is the Steiner brothers. And this is before they were like, before, um, Scott went and I cut his hair off and dyed it blonde and got jacked and all that before that. when they were in their prime. I mean, that was pretty much the only time. Scott. Right. Scott Steiner was probably one of the most innovative wrestlers that we have ever had. Shout out to Rekha Steiner because he made it. He still loves Steiner Math, man. Steiner Math definitely did a lot of funny stuff. Steiner Math, off the top rope, he was doing the Hara Karanas. He's like doing certain moves that they do now that we see were like, for instance, that one
01:26:23
Speaker
I've seen Braun Braun has done it actually, where he has them in the um follow. We slam and flips off of the top rope with it. Scott Steiner has done that before, like way back in the day. I like. Yeah, like there's just certain moves that he but he's got so big that he couldn't do them anymore. And then it it just went downhill from there. That's the release, man. Yeah. um it Scott Steiner probably is one of the one of at that time, one of the best wrestlers in the game because nobody was doing stuff like that. The other person R.I.P. rest his soul is Canyon. Chris Canyon? Yeah, I would say Canyon, Steiner, 123, and Michaels, I would say are probably some, and a guy from Canada,
01:27:11
Speaker
um
01:27:14
Speaker
Dynamite Kid. Yes, yes. I would say they are probably some of them. And you know who also was good? I'm gonna give him some credit too, R.I.P. to him too. Um, is Brian Pillman before he got, before he had got into that bad car accident and hurt his leg. Yeah. ah Brian Pillman was actually, it was great in the ring actually. Yeah. I could, yeah. What happened to this kid? Lexus King. Lexus King. Oh, Lexus King. Brian Pillman Jr. Yeah. Yeah, Brian Pillman Jr. That's what, yeah, that's what I was. He changed his name now. To Lexus King. Yeah. And he also changed companies. I don't know if you've heard. Yeah. And like he made it a point, his whole, when he came there, he said, this is my dad. Like he told the story and why he's not going by his dad because he came to his dad, his dad wasn't there. Did you know he wasn't with AW anymore, CT? Basically what Dominique was trying to do.
01:28:06
Speaker
I thought he was totally played with Donovan. You're not watching NXT? I watch it every... and You know who Lexus King is? No, I never heard of him before. So then you don't watch NXT? I watch it every two weeks. So you so you coincidentally have just missed every match he made because he wrestles those two weeks that you missed? Or the weeks that you missed? Yes. the So the the the weeks that I missed, he was probably on the show. and You don't know who Lexus King is? This is my first time ever. It's like sideburns, blonde hair. It's bleached. It's my first time ever. I'm on a wrestling podcast, and you don't even know who he is. Listen, Terrell, I'm trying to tell you because the review format is very hard. It's only so many hours in a day. It is so many so much hours of wrestling content. Terrell, I thought that this summer I will be able to watch NXT, but we've been having man cave at church.
01:29:07
Speaker
So seven o'clock, I'm there. And it's my revival this week. Well, C.T., I'm right there with you because I don't watch NXT Weekly. No, it's not. It's not an excuse to to watch or not watch. It's like what I'm saying is you should still know who's who's there, the highlights. Baby, I'm just getting hip on. I'm just getting hip on Jada Parker, baby. So C.T., I love Mr. Jada Parker. Baby, I love you so Jada Parker after this. um look i'm a poet And speaking of that, that match with her and Mia. That was a match. Baby ate them right on up. Ate them up. That was the best match of the night. Ate them right on up. That should have been on the table for you. Let me tell the Against the Roast fans. Okay, guys. I'm starting. Watch the NXT show tonight. You see this? Oh, that crazy bald head boy. I mean, not bald, blind head boy. I'm saying wrong words. I'm tired. Anyway.
01:30:04
Speaker
Oh, I see his crazy stuff before. ah for like probably. a That's his name. OK, Lexus King. He lost weight a little bit away. Like this is yeah before and after. Oh, yeah. Oh, so that I was wondering why that dude. I've seen him. My TV was muted one time and I've seen somebody about in biker, biker jacket and in pants. I was like, oh, I could have been anybody. any teach I was a Shayna Baszler. I know who Shayna Basie is, Donnie. Don't don't play with me. I don't know. You know that um Ethan Page went to NXT? Yeah, someone told me that I knew that. you So you don't watch. You don't even watch every two weeks. Which is because he's been on every week since he got there. And Orman has been whooping that ass every time, every chance he gets who Lexus King. Oh, and did you guys hear? Well, you probably didn't hear it, though. Did you hear Orman's story?
01:31:04
Speaker
No, his actual story, his story about his life or whatever, and about how I'm not sent to you because I want to explain that it is actually really sad. Like after told after he told his story on that episode, Booker T was crying um on commentary. I'm at the start. I'm at the start watching the index. Like if they gave him like, cause we don't know, like we, like we've seen, uh, miss Jackson, we've seen, um, last legend. We know who they are. We know who, um, what's his, uh, what's his name? Um, no, I'm Dari is whatever. And we see Orman. So that's in the metaphor too, but we don't know him as a character as a person or whatever, whatever but he actually say who was arrow. He's in metaphor with the pink hair. Gotcha. I never knew his name.
01:31:47
Speaker
Oh, or, or, oh, or a mentor. Anyways, he actually, and that's, that's why I think that they did it because now he's the focal point in metaphor because no, I'm dollars injured. So he's going to be out for a few months. I know I'm going to miss the Scottish supernova. You don't even watch it, so how are you gonna miss it? First of all, I am- You watch it as much as- Let me tell you something, Noam Dar is that guy, okay? I've been a big fan of Noam Dar since 2020. I think that that was the plan Noam Dar was originally supposed to feud with Trick. Yeah, he was. But he got injured, so they had to change the story they bought. Screaming, crying, throwing up. I wish we would have got Trick and Dar. Um, that would have been good. Yeah. And then they were going to probably use, um, see my YouTube friend, you know, cause she, it was going to work. It was going to work, but they had to pivot. Excuse me of being a dark fan boy. So I, I w I would love to see trick and no, I'm dark happens. I know I'm darker. Just prove to the haters that he can wrestle. Who said he can't wrestle. A couple of my friends say, don't, don't like him, but that is, I don't like, but that doesn't mean they can't wrestle. They say he boring in the ring.
01:32:58
Speaker
I don't think he born in the ring either. I think he's a great character. I enjoy him. I've always liked Norm. um Why are you looking like that? but Because I'm just trying to think of why are you friends with these people? Because we all have. we all have Those are our three viewers, honey. We all have different wrestling opinions. So, you know, One of them's a Daniel Bryan or Bryan Danson fanboy. I am a HSL fan and the other one loves CM Punk. Like he'll do it. So that's, that's how we get along. So we have different wrestling opinions and it's fun. We debate about it on Twitter. They probably be eating your ass up because you also like John Cena. So yeah, I've lost a few debates for them, but yeah. seen
01:33:51
Speaker
It's fine. No, it's fun. I love talking wrestling with them. Just like like this. I look just like I like talking wrestling with you guys on the weekly. Anyways, what were you saying? um Anyways, Orman's the story. I'm going to find the clip on Lionel Messina to y'all so y'all can view his story because it was actually like, damn, that shit is deep. Like about African. In case you guys did not see ah Johnny voice interview after we didn't care about that. We don't care about this. Okay. So Cena
John Cena's Retirement Plans and Podcast Closing
01:34:20
Speaker
says that he will not be retiring at WrestleMania 41. He wants to do 30 to 40 dates in 2025. Whenever he retires, he's retiring the jorts.
01:34:31
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so he won't wear his gear anymore. His TV appearances will be in a suit and tie after that. Okay, Justin Timberlake. Cena's going for his world title number 17 next year, and he says that he may enter the Royal Rumble at number 17 next year. So he is going to run away rumbled and that's what they're going to do. Yeah, it looks like we're going to be getting Cena and Cody at 41 and rock and Roman. I don't, that's a great mania for me. I do not know. Cena and Cody? And Cena and Cody. Rock and Roman and Cody. Yes. He said that's a great mania for him. See, how old are you? Night one, Cena and Cody made events. Night two, rock and Roman, baby. See, to you acting like you older than me.
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What you mean? What you mean? I'm acting like I'm older than you. because i I really um want that. I really pray that Rock has a movie to do during that time. I really, really pray that he has a movie to do. No, Rock doesn't have any 2025 days. he he and i'm I'm lying. He don't film the Fast and Furious movie until summer of next year. How do you know? He might be open. How do you know his schedule? because I follow a movie ah news sites on Twitter and they stalk these people and figure out their movie status. No, we know that you're known to stalk somebody. see yeah stuff Does Cena follow you yet? He does follow me on, he follows me on two of my Twitter accounts. Yeah, and and he he needs to. Yes. John Cena will follow anybody because I had never tweeted that boy, I never said nothing about him and I gotta follow him. He follows porn accounts. I didn't even follow him. I understand. He follows what?
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People that do Onlyfans, he follows them, and they're men and women. I'm like, why are you following him? I need to know if that's really his account. don't I don't think it is, honestly. Happy. It can't be. Well, we don't know his ass at WrestleMania in any regard. Well, he gonna be there. Stop being a hater. Let that man go out on a high, okay? Has he won Royal Rumble before? Yeah, he won Royal Rumble. He won it twice. Twice? He didn't even win it three times. He did not even win it a third time. In 2008, he won it and he may have been at WrestleMania 24, I believe, with that triple threat with him, Triple H, and Randy Orton. In 2013, it was twice in a lifetime. Rockin' Cena 2. And he won that match. Randy Orton retained in 2008 at 24. I just remember that first Royal Rumble return, or the one he won, he was just like,
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Yeah, he was like this because he, because he came back. I was like, girl, I was like, girl, hang it up. don't tell him He told that man to hang it up in 08. He was in his prime. Why did you give us this news? We didn't care about it. To be honest. Because the podcast was ending and I wanted to send it off on a high note. That was a high note? Yes. The high note is inhaled. Cena working 30 to 40 days his last year, man. You were too excited for this. GTA 6 is next year. All of these amazing things is next year. My childhood's back.
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I need you to get up off my mask dick. and Your childhood was literally just here like two years ago. What are you talking about? Yesterday. Like literally before we started, before we came live today. Donnie, stop. Okay. Y'all just trying to take my joy and happiness. I'm happy that you're happy. ah We always want you to be happy. Always. I'm excited. You know, it's it's a great time to be a wrestling fan.
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Why did it quiet? So thank you guys for joining our podcast. We love y'all. We will be back next week. We love you guys more than CT loves John Cena. All three of you, all three, all three of you viewers and watchers there out there and our 10 subscribers on YouTube now. And so was but we have 10 subscribers on YouTube. Yeah, I was, I've been doing some marketing. So thank you. Come on marketing. S do some more. I'll edit this video and actually get some stuff this week for us to toast. Anyways, it's been real. Yeah, we love y'all. And we will talk to y'all later. And remember that is always about hustle, loyalty, and disrespect.
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