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Ep# 5 Where is Ricky? A Deep Dive into AEW's Problems

Against The Ropes
Against The Ropes

22 plays · May 21, 2024

In this week's episode of 'Against the Ropes,' we explored the current state of AEW, focusing on the mysterious absence of Ricky Starks. We discussed the rumors surrounding his reduced TV time, particularly the speculation that his push was derailed due to a promo with Adam "Edge" Copeland. Our frustration with AEW's booking decisions and the overcrowded roster, which has led to talented wrestlers like Ricky being underutilized, was evident. We also delved into the issues with AEW's numerous titles and the creation of the show "Collision" for CM Punk, who is no longer with the company. The conversation shifted to the women's division, emphasizing the need for better representation and booking, while highlighting the positive impact of Mercedes Moné. Additionally, we addressed the lack of diversity and inclusion in AEW, referencing Big Swole's past comments and the recent release of Sonny Kiss. We questioned Tony Khan's leadership and decision-making, especially regarding the representation of black wrestlers. Towards the end, we discussed the potential of Los Lotharios (Angel Garza and Humberto Carrillo) and their need for a significant push, and debated the effectiveness of DIY (Johnny Gargano and Tommaso Ciampa) on the main roster compared to their time in NXT. Overall, it was a passionate and insightful discussion about the current state of AEW and the wrestling industry as a whole, and we look forward to seeing what changes, if any, will come in the future. Follow Us: X: @againstth3ropes [https://twitter.com/againstth3ropes] IG:@againstth3ropes [https://www.instagram.com/againstth3ropes] Your Host: X: @_Terayle [https://twitter.com/_terayle] IG: @TerayleGarnett [https://www.instagram.com/teraylegarnett/] X: @DonnyHokuto [https://twitter.com/donnyhokuto?s=21&t=aGZEk8_Oe2okJlAu2taeEw] IG: @DonnyHokuto [https://www.instagram.com/DonnyHokuto/] X: @CTP_2025 [https://twitter.com/CTTP_2025] IG: @ColeTrain2018 [https://www.instagram.com/ColeTrain2018/]

Transcript

Speaker: What's good, y'all?

Speaker: We are back again with another podcast.

Speaker: It has been... I don't know.

Speaker: I feel like these weeks have been going by so fast.

Speaker: I don't know if it's just me or if y'all can concur.

Speaker: But yes, it's been a breeze.

Speaker: Yeah, it's been a breeze.

Speaker: So I can't even tell you what...

Speaker: I can't even, it really is though.

Speaker: Gemini season for all the Gemini's starts tomorrow.

Speaker: Who's the Gemini?

Speaker: Some of the people that watch us are Gemini's.

Speaker: Ain't nobody watches yet.

Speaker: Oh, my bad.

Speaker: Oh yeah, we gave them a shout out last week.

Speaker: The real ones, they watch me every week.

Speaker: So what did they say last week about the podcast?

Speaker: What did they say?

Speaker: Some of them had a very, very interesting question about what y'all was talking about when y'all asked me, do they know?

Speaker: And I was like, I was like, well, that's a long story.

Speaker: And I, yeah, they don't know.

Speaker: So I have to, oh, they didn't know about the girl?

Speaker: No.

Speaker: So they didn't know about the feet.

Speaker: Oh, we didn't even talk about the Dottie.

Speaker: not talk about that no sorry guys let me talk about that after the podcast was over well that's gonna be in this one um but yeah so i had to i had to answer questions last week so it was a fun time that's good well i feel special that we knew about this this individual before your actual friends did

Speaker: I mean, to be fair.

Speaker: Well, yes, y'all are business friends, or we're getting to that personal relationship soon.

Speaker: So.

Speaker: Soon, the stuff that you was talking about the other day, we real personal.

Speaker: How about I say, what do you mean soon?

Speaker: Do you drive?

Speaker: We're close.

Speaker: I consider y'all good friends.

Speaker: I can tell you anything.

Speaker: Oh, I love that.

Speaker: Does he drive?

Speaker: I was about to say, yeah, because I was going to put Suge in his tank.

Speaker: But, um.

Speaker: You did.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: How was y'all, uh, Darrell usually asks, how was the weekend?

Speaker: How was your weekend, Darrell?

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: I, I had plans, but I canceled him to take my cousin to, um, his prom.

Speaker: And he pissed me off.

Speaker: Not like mad pissed me off, but like, I took him to his prom and we're, we get there and he's like, oh yeah, I don't have my ID to get in.

Speaker: And the prom was like maybe 30, 40 minutes away.

Speaker: And I'm like, oh, why didn't you say anything?

Speaker: He said, well, I realized it halfway there, but, you know, we're already so far.

Speaker: So you decided for us to go further before you mentioned it.

Speaker: We don't have LA Wallet?

Speaker: I don't know what LA Wallet is.

Speaker: Sorry.

Speaker: Sorry.

Speaker: That's a Louisiana thing.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Listen, I know the company that developed LA Wallet.

Speaker: They're trying to expand it, but not.

Speaker: They got a long way to go.

Speaker: What is that?

Speaker: It's like when you can put your dropper's license and your medical history on your phone.

Speaker: So if you ain't got your ID, you just pull up the app and it got your ID.

Speaker: You can order your dropper's license, all that stuff.

Speaker: I know all of them in my LA wallet.

Speaker: They're pretty cool people, by the way.

Speaker: I don't know if we have that ink out.

Speaker: Excuse me.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: My weekend was a weekend.

Speaker: It was, you know, fun.

Speaker: I had went out Saturday night, had celebrated somebody's birthday.

Speaker: That's Gemini.

Speaker: You know, it was great.

Speaker: Celebrated with family and family, you know, met some people.

Speaker: It was cool.

Speaker: And yesterday I just went to church.

Speaker: It was Pentecost Sunday.

Speaker: So it was on fire in church yesterday.

Speaker: Yeah, man.

Speaker: And man, it was great.

Speaker: And that was pretty much it.

Speaker: That's all I did this weekend.

Speaker: And last week was just getting things together for senior year of college and things like that.

Speaker: Fun times.

Speaker: And yourself, John?

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: And you went on vacation.

Speaker: No, it wasn't a vacation.

Speaker: I got to see my lovely, lovely family that I absolutely love to see all the time.

Speaker: Um, and we had a nice time.

Speaker: I got to see and hug everybody.

Speaker: I love every single person in my family.

Speaker: The amount of sarcasm, my Lord.

Speaker: That was funny.

Speaker: You didn't, you didn't hear what we talked about before we got on camera because you weren't on yet CT.

Speaker: So that's all.

Speaker: I'm just gonna laugh.

Speaker: Oh, I need to, I need to.

Speaker: We're not going to do it on the thing.

Speaker: We don't need to cause more drama just in case people listen for him.

Speaker: Anyways, so what news and rumors do we have this week?

Speaker: Well, we have a few topics of discussion.

Speaker: So I think first, since it's hot, we're going to talk about Mr. Ricky Starks and all of the revelations that have come to fruition within this past week.

Speaker: of his AEW statuses.

Speaker: I feel like every week for the past, since we started the podcast, we've been talking about where's Ricky.

Speaker: Where is Ricky?

Speaker: Ricky showed up and told us where he's at.

Speaker: He's sitting on his couch.

Speaker: Waiting for the call.

Speaker: He's sitting on his couch playing video games or working out.

Speaker: I don't know what he's doing, but he's just sitting at home doing nothing.

Speaker: Nothing.

Speaker: I have a bone to pick.

Speaker: With?

Speaker: With Mr. Adam Edge Copeland.

Speaker: Why?

Speaker: Why?

Speaker: Because the tea, now I don't know if this is hot tea or if it's stale tea, but the tea in the streets is that the whole reason that Ricky's push got sidelined was because of that promo that he had with Edge in the ring.

Speaker: I don't remember it.

Speaker: Do you guys remember the promo?

Speaker: I know exactly what you're talking about, but he didn't say anything that was super terrible to me.

Speaker: He hinted to it.

Speaker: He hinted to it, but he did not say anything.

Speaker: Like, you could have said something way more bad, like your neck is being held together by, like, sewing thread or something.

Speaker: Like, that's what I would have said.

Speaker: But Ricky didn't say that.

Speaker: And so I don't understand why Ed got so mad.

Speaker: I'll find the clip and I'll put it here.

Speaker: So excuse me for breaking up this little bash here, but I'll be damned if I sit in the back and let it go on in longer.

Speaker: And truthfully speaking, I have no respect for you, Adam Copeland.

Speaker: I have no respect for you, Bryan.

Speaker: But I do have respect for you, Christian, the only AEW champion that stands in this ring until, well, right now.

Speaker: Hope you don't mind.

Speaker: I got to just take a few minutes right quick.

Speaker: Excuse me, big fella.

Speaker: Excuse me, little fella.

Speaker: You, my sir,

Speaker: Don't think that I forgot about the things that I had to do to deal with you and the BCC and all this other crap.

Speaker: I want you to understand one thing.

Speaker: Don't look at me like that with those bug eyes, sir.

Speaker: I'm talking to this guy.

Speaker: It's your stupid silk slacks, dumbass.

Speaker: Yeah, well... Sadly, you didn't take Sal from the other place, but either way... And you took it from The Rock.

Speaker: Either way...

Speaker: Can't help that you're a vanilla midget version of that, but shut your mouth and talk to him instead of me, kid.

Speaker: Thanks.

Speaker: Know your role.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: That really set me over the edge.

Speaker: Either way.

Speaker: Yes, please.

Speaker: Because it kind of got up out his skin at that point.

Speaker: Well, what did Ricky say?

Speaker: It was something about his eye.

Speaker: I was like, Edge, your eye is the least of your worries.

Speaker: The least.

Speaker: I know who's eye we need to be worried about is Shawn Michaels, but that's neither here nor there.

Speaker: He only got one.

Speaker: Exactly.

Speaker: What happened?

Speaker: I don't know what happened, man.

Speaker: Wasn't it something like he took a bad... I can't remember, but I just remember one time I was little and his eyes were straight and then I came back and his eyes was going one way and then his eyes were going the other way.

Speaker: He's gone one way since 2010.

Speaker: home yeah okay i love sean that's not not too much on him yes i love sean michael sean michael was one of the people that got me into wrestling so yes he's one of my favorites honestly was he even wrestling when you started watching it yes he was terrell i started watching it 2007 i was say that man probably didn't come back from his smile yet

Speaker: He was, he, he, he, this was post-back Shawn Michaels.

Speaker: I started watching it in 07.

Speaker: So you didn't even watch, you didn't even watch.

Speaker: From 07 till present day.

Speaker: How old were you in 07?

Speaker: I was 2007.

Speaker: I was born in 03.

Speaker: So I was about.

Speaker: Four?

Speaker: Four years old.

Speaker: Yep.

Speaker: Four.

Speaker: Nigga.

Speaker: Yes, I was four years old.

Speaker: My dad.

Speaker: So you didn't even get to see Shawn Michaels in his prime then.

Speaker: I saw Prime Part 2.

Speaker: I didn't get... Well, Terrell, I think you're the only person... His Prime was really the 90s, but I think you're the only person that saw that.

Speaker: I'm the only person on this podcast, not the only person that saw that.

Speaker: I mean, yeah, obviously.

Speaker: Yo, on the podcast, Donnie was maybe in diapers around that time, but... Not when he was in his first Prime.

Speaker: By the time I came along, he was like, lost his smile or whatever.

Speaker: Yeah, I was supposed to back.

Speaker: I was supposed to back retirement surgery.

Speaker: He came back.

Speaker: Whenever he came back, I was being made, so...

Speaker: I remember, you know what?

Speaker: It's true.

Speaker: Shout out to mama pops.

Speaker: Before, I want to say it was before DX, but I remember he got, he got beat up in a bar.

Speaker: I don't know if you guys heard that story.

Speaker: I did.

Speaker: Okay, so anyways, I remember watching the Raw that Monday, and they played, and I'll always, this song will always play true in my mind, and I'll always think of Shawn Michaels, Wind Beneath My Wings, because they didn't think he was going to wrestle again or what was going to happen, so they played Wind Beneath My Wings.

Speaker: Who's that, Bette Midler or somebody?

Speaker: Shout out to Bette Midler.

Speaker: Did anyone tell you that you're my hero?

Speaker: Yes, yes.

Speaker: And they played that song and they had this montage of Shawn Michaels or whatever.

Speaker: I'll never forget that, though.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: That's crazy.

Speaker: Yeah, you way back.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: I started watching Shawn Michaels in the Elimination Chamber with them brown and them shit breeches.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: That's when he first came back.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yes, I remember that.

Speaker: Now listen, I went back and seen the highlights.

Speaker: I didn't physically watch that one live.

Speaker: But anyways, back to Ricky.

Speaker: Yeah, back to Ricky because where is he?

Speaker: He did an interview with... I want to credit the podcast that he did the interview with.

Speaker: Who was it?

Speaker: Wrestle... Was it Wrestle Culture?

Speaker: Who did he do the interview?

Speaker: It wasn't Wrestle Culture.

Speaker: Who was he doing the interview with?

Speaker: I'm going to find out for you real quick.

Speaker: The funniest part of the interview, he was like, you know, whenever they thought that he was injured, he said, I was just getting my balls checked.

Speaker: I laughed so hard.

Speaker: I found the promo with him.

Speaker: And Edge.

Speaker: And Edge, so I'm going to... Don't piss me off.

Speaker: That's about around the last time we've seen him.

Speaker: That was the last time we seen him.

Speaker: That was seven months ago.

Speaker: Was that really seven months ago?

Speaker: Yeah, it was seven months ago, then he dropped the belt.

Speaker: They dropped the belt, and then we haven't seen him since.

Speaker: We haven't seen him since he dropped the belt.

Speaker: And then they took big bill from him.

Speaker: They took big bill from him.

Speaker: And gave him to Jericho.

Speaker: Don't piss me off, Jericho.

Speaker: We already know how you feel about Jericho.

Speaker: The same thing you feel about

Speaker: The Rock, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker: Actually, believe it or not, I feel worse about The Rock than I do about Jericho.

Speaker: That's not hard to believe.

Speaker: Believe it or not, we believe it.

Speaker: And Edge is working his way up to my list, too.

Speaker: Watch it, Al.

Speaker: Edge made the list.

Speaker: You have made the list.

Speaker: The list of Donnie people that he can't stand.

Speaker: Edge has made the list.

Speaker: What has Edge done to A&M that you don't like?

Speaker: I think he's had a great run in AEW.

Speaker: I think that if he is the reason, which looks like he is, because you know how Tony is with his shiny toys?

Speaker: He doesn't like them to get dirty.

Speaker: If Edge is the reason for Ricky Stark's push getting derailed, oh, he's number one and a half on my list.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: If he's the reason that Ricky's not on TV, then we have a problem.

Speaker: No, Rock will be one.

Speaker: You said one and... Oh, okay.

Speaker: I get you.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Um, well, so I don't have what crap.

Speaker: I should have saved it.

Speaker: That's on that phone.

Speaker: Crap.

Speaker: I don't really have what Ricky said.

Speaker: Does you guys have it?

Speaker: You can read it verbatim.

Speaker: What he said about not being on TV.

Speaker: I can look it up.

Speaker: This is why we should be more prepared here.

Speaker: I'm trying to find it myself.

Speaker: He says, um,

Speaker: He just, something about like he just hasn't been booked.

Speaker: He's healthy.

Speaker: He's clear.

Speaker: Yeah, that man asked Ricky Star, why haven't you been on TV?

Speaker: And Ricky Star said, I would like to know too.

Speaker: He said, I'm healthy.

Speaker: I done told the people I'm healthy.

Speaker: I wasn't sick.

Speaker: I wasn't never sick.

Speaker: But they just haven't booked me.

Speaker: He already told Tony he was available.

Speaker: Tony hadn't booked him.

Speaker: Still has not been booked.

Speaker: Still hasn't been booked.

Speaker: That promo came out.

Speaker: He said, I have no idea.

Speaker: And that's a quote.

Speaker: Why is this in black?

Speaker: I cannot read it.

Speaker: I guess it was on World Culture Wrestling.

Speaker: Oh, so I was right?

Speaker: You was right.

Speaker: No, that's not what you said.

Speaker: I know that wasn't what I said, but I was going to just act like I said it.

Speaker: See, T gonna let you slide.

Speaker: I'm not letting you slide.

Speaker: I don't know...

Speaker: When Ricky starts contracts up, but he's... Okay, I have the quote.

Speaker: I'm going to read it.

Speaker: Wait, what?

Speaker: I said that whenever his contract's up, he's gone.

Speaker: He's not resigning.

Speaker: He's not resigning.

Speaker: So this is the quote that he says.

Speaker: The idea of even being at WrestleMania is so... I don't even think.

Speaker: I think I had a dream, and then I stopped having that dream for...

Speaker: For whatever the reason.

Speaker: Not to be sad or anything.

Speaker: I don't know why, but I think everybody dreams about that.

Speaker: But AEW has its own WrestleMania, so to speak, with All In.

Speaker: It did suck last year not to be on it.

Speaker: And I don't want to see myself up for disappointment.

Speaker: And I don't want to publicly say that I'm going to be on All In this year.

Speaker: And then I just don't.

Speaker: And then I just don't.

Speaker: I'm kind of superstitious like that in a way.

Speaker: I am, but I am not.

Speaker: Would it be nice for sure?

Speaker: I don't know that I will.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Do I hope?

Speaker: Yeah, but if not, I also get it too.

Speaker: What I mean by this is I also get like, hey, some shit just don't work out for you.

Speaker: If we've known by now in my career some things, just it ain't gonna happen.

Speaker: It ain't gonna happen for me.

Speaker: And that's okay.

Speaker: I don't want to harp on that.

Speaker: Or focus on that part because I'll just be stuck in a shitty space.

Speaker: So I think what's next for me is... Dude, I have no clue.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: I have no clue.

Speaker: I would love to be back wrestling and doing something with substance, but that is not in my control.

Speaker: So I don't know.

Speaker: To be real with you, hopefully you see me back on screen real soon.

Speaker: Shrugs.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Because I'm...

Speaker: Because I'm ready.

Speaker: Yeah, he literally shrugged because I've seen the video of that quote that Terrell just said.

Speaker: And he shrugged his shoulders like, hopefully you see me soon.

Speaker: I'm like, what?

Speaker: You have plans for everybody else.

Speaker: But not Ricky Starks.

Speaker: A-W-O-G.

Speaker: Original.

Speaker: But Chris Jericho gets TV time.

Speaker: And Adam Copeland.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: So do you not like Edge?

Speaker: Why is Adam Copeland being featured when you have a youngster?

Speaker: Right there.

Speaker: Right there.

Speaker: I will say this.

Speaker: I don't get it.

Speaker: I've never been a fan of Edge.

Speaker: What?

Speaker: Never.

Speaker: Not even with Christian?

Speaker: No, never tickle my fancy.

Speaker: I think that he's an amazing wrestler.

Speaker: I've just never been a fan of his.

Speaker: He's never done anything for me.

Speaker: I remember when Edge debuted with Christian and Gangrel or whatever, if that's how old I is.

Speaker: But even then, when we had the tag team with Edge and Christian and then there was the Deadlies and then the Hardys, who wasn't rooting for the Hardys?

Speaker: Who wasn't rooting for the Deadlies and putting somebody through a table?

Speaker: Not many people were rooting for Edge and Christian.

Speaker: I was rooting for the Hardys, but whenever they were fighting the Dougleys, I was not.

Speaker: He wasn't rooting for anybody because you were probably not even alive.

Speaker: So, anyways.

Speaker: That's okay, Situ.

Speaker: Close your mouth.

Speaker: By the time I started watching D-Von and Bubba Ray was in TNA, I think.

Speaker: I was going to say in 2007, they was in TNA.

Speaker: So I don't know what you were talking about.

Speaker: Exactly.

Speaker: So when Edge made his Rated R Superstar stuff, I've seen a little bit of it.

Speaker: But at that point, I had stopped watching wrestling for a while.

Speaker: So like the height of his career, I wasn't really watching.

Speaker: So like I see stuff here and there, but I just wasn't really an Edge guy.

Speaker: Like I never...

Speaker: I mean, Edge was never really an Edge guy for real.

Speaker: When he was around, he was always number four because you have John Cena right there.

Speaker: You have Randy Orton right there, and then you have Batista right there.

Speaker: And Edge was kind of like the big four.

Speaker: He was always kind of like at the bottom.

Speaker: So he was never like that guy.

Speaker: Very much so pivotal player in that era, but he was never that guy.

Speaker: He was never going to be that guy.

Speaker: Yeah, well, it is.

Speaker: And then with

Speaker: I always thought Christian was better.

Speaker: Ditto.

Speaker: I met Christian.

Speaker: He came to the outlets where I worked one year.

Speaker: But anyways, nice guy.

Speaker: But when we think about Christian and Ed, they're both on AEW right now.

Speaker: Christian is doing way better work than Ed is.

Speaker: I'm sorry.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: That tells you a lot.

Speaker: That tells you a lot.

Speaker: Literally, ever since Christian came back, he's been doing better work.

Speaker: Edge has never done better work than Christian in the 2020s.

Speaker: I fully believe that.

Speaker: Well, I mean, Edge has only been wrestling for the last four years.

Speaker: And I'm going to tell you this.

Speaker: I'm going to tell you this, too.

Speaker: And somebody's going to disagree.

Speaker: I don't care.

Speaker: You can keep it.

Speaker: But when Christian was in TNA,

Speaker: and Edge was at WWE, and they were both having their magnum opus runs, Christian still ate them up.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Edge as a heel, that's his best times.

Speaker: There was a better heel.

Speaker: There was a better heel when Edge was a heel, always.

Speaker: But was Edge such a good heel because he had supporting... Like, he had support.

Speaker: He had Lita.

Speaker: You know what I'm saying?

Speaker: Edge was a good heel because Lita made everybody hate him.

Speaker: He went against the Undertaker.

Speaker: Nobody's going to... And you've got to think about this, too.

Speaker: You've got to think about this one big, big part of Edge being a heel.

Speaker: The reason why Lita and all this stuff worked out is because they actually had an affair.

Speaker: So, all of that stuff was genuine.

Speaker: It was genuine.

Speaker: It was real life or whatever.

Speaker: So, like, you're not a heel.

Speaker: You're just a shitty person.

Speaker: Fucking wish you were your friends, girl.

Speaker: It's just success.

Speaker: And heel's success and WWE's success is all contingent on embarrassing Lita.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: He's the Justin Timberlake of WWE.

Speaker: That's... It's literally... Oh, my God.

Speaker: Jesus Christ, man.

Speaker: It's literally Edge was, you know, getting this thing on.

Speaker: That's why he was successful.

Speaker: I mean, I don't blame him, though, because, you know, go get that.

Speaker: You know?

Speaker: I mean, the sex scene on TV was kind of cool when I watched it when I was like 10.

Speaker: I was like, that's nice.

Speaker: 10?

Speaker: Oh, rerun?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Why would you say that?

Speaker: The Edge and Lita one.

Speaker: No, we know what you're talking about, but why would you say that?

Speaker: There was like an age protection on that video back then.

Speaker: Whenever you create an account and you put in a fake birthday, you watch anything?

Speaker: Okay, CT.

Speaker: Okay, CT.

Speaker: I'm sorry.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Stop.

Speaker: My bad.

Speaker: Yeah, this pervert.

Speaker: Oh my God.

Speaker: What are you talking about?

Speaker: Ain't no pervert.

Speaker: So see, so... I just took them from the street.

Speaker: So... Yeah, so hopefully, I don't know, I don't know how much longer Ricky has on his contract.

Speaker: I don't know what is to unfold with him, but after doing this interview, I would think that creative at AEW will have something for him.

Speaker: I don't.

Speaker: No, Tony Khan's petty.

Speaker: I said, hopefully...

Speaker: I don't see it.

Speaker: I don't either.

Speaker: But, I mean, they're just going to let this contract run out?

Speaker: Like, just let the boy go?

Speaker: The thing is, this is, if there was ever a time... Put him to Ring of Honor.

Speaker: Like, if he don't, you know?

Speaker: No, no.

Speaker: He needs to be in the main title picture.

Speaker: Like, if there was ever a time for him... I'm not saying that he doesn't, but you're missing my point.

Speaker: No, no, no.

Speaker: I got it.

Speaker: I'd rather have a little bit of him than not have him at all.

Speaker: And I get you.

Speaker: You need to just book the guy at this point.

Speaker: He just needs to be booked.

Speaker: Ricky has everything you need to have.

Speaker: He needs to be booked.

Speaker: You can't just say he just needs to be booked because people get booked badly sometimes.

Speaker: But they on TV.

Speaker: So what?

Speaker: They're on TV.

Speaker: It's not just about being on TV though.

Speaker: I would rather Ricky be foolish.

Speaker: I'll give you an example.

Speaker: Like when...

Speaker: Naomi had this big old thing or whatever where people are saying like she came back to WWE right now and why isn't they giving her a chance and all this other stuff or whatever but she's being booked.

Speaker: But she's not winning.

Speaker: But exactly my point.

Speaker: Naomi's on one of the greatest runs of her career.

Speaker: I mean, I'm not mad at Naomi.

Speaker: Her match qualities have been great.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: But where do you go from here?

Speaker: She needs to be booked.

Speaker: But she is booked because she's on TV.

Speaker: She needs to be booked.

Speaker: I said what I said.

Speaker: But here's my thing.

Speaker: No, no, no.

Speaker: Pause.

Speaker: Before you go see T. But that was my point.

Speaker: Just because he's on TV doesn't mean anything.

Speaker: Naomi on TV?

Speaker: Losing will always be better than Naomi not being on TV like we had.

Speaker: I'm not talking about Naomi, though.

Speaker: I'm bringing it back to Ricky Starks.

Speaker: Him just being on TV is not enough.

Speaker: My point was I was trying to make.

Speaker: Ricky Starks will lose three shows.

Speaker: But she's on TV every week.

Speaker: Say that one more time.

Speaker: I said my point is that we see Naomi every week.

Speaker: So it's not about someone being on TV.

Speaker: It's the way that they're booked.

Speaker: If Ricky's going to be on TV, we want him booked at a high status because he's that good.

Speaker: It's not just about being on TV.

Speaker: There's a lot of people that are just on TV.

Speaker: The way I see it, I don't think it's a fair comparison with Ricky and Naomi.

Speaker: Okay, but then let's say, what's his name?

Speaker: Shinsuke Nakamura.

Speaker: That nigga's not booked.

Speaker: He can stay unbooked.

Speaker: But my point is that we see him on TV.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Is he that good enough to warrant TV time?

Speaker: Shinsuke Nakamura is actually really good.

Speaker: However, comma, what they've been doing with him.

Speaker: In 2024 in WWE?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: You're missing my point.

Speaker: They haven't given him a chance to really do much.

Speaker: They've never given him a chance besides NXT.

Speaker: I feel like they've watered him down.

Speaker: He's been mid since 2018.

Speaker: They watered him down so much.

Speaker: Very.

Speaker: The height that we had when we thought that him and AJ were going to just shut it down and they didn't shut shit down.

Speaker: I was at that WrestleMania.

Speaker: Do you know how disappointed I was as an AJ Styles fanboy?

Speaker: I was embarrassed.

Speaker: I was like, y'all, this is going to be in my section.

Speaker: Don't ever call yourself a fanboy again.

Speaker: Listen, maybe a fanboy.

Speaker: You want to be a fanboy.

Speaker: But he is my number one wrestler outside the Undertaker.

Speaker: And that's okay.

Speaker: Because you can let me use you.

Speaker: I was typing up my section.

Speaker: He is.

Speaker: He's another reason why I started watching wrestling.

Speaker: I didn't know that.

Speaker: Did you know that, Donnie?

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Where the hell have I been at?

Speaker: I always talk about it.

Speaker: I don't be listening to y'all then.

Speaker: No, you don't.

Speaker: But, yeah.

Speaker: Who's your favorite wrestler, Donnie?

Speaker: Male, female, overall.

Speaker: Overall.

Speaker: Well, you can do male and female.

Speaker: I'm fine with that.

Speaker: Male, female, Bryan Danielson, and Mercedes Renato.

Speaker: Yeah, we talked about this.

Speaker: I thought we did.

Speaker: We did.

Speaker: And who's your favorite again?

Speaker: Female?

Speaker: C-T?

Speaker: Female?

Speaker: Yeah, that's Mercedes Monet.

Speaker: I've always been a fan of hers.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Did I say Renato?

Speaker: My bad Mercedes.

Speaker: I don't even mean to use your government name, love.

Speaker: Yeah, you really did.

Speaker: I was going to correct you, but I said, well, that is her name, so what's the correct name?

Speaker: Overall, it's Kurt Angle.

Speaker: Oh, I love me some Kurt Angle.

Speaker: Perk?

Speaker: Perk?

Speaker: Kurt's in my top five.

Speaker: Was another.

Speaker: That was a beast.

Speaker: per angle, they don't.

Speaker: They don't.

Speaker: They didn't catch per angle in real time.

Speaker: I was a year late.

Speaker: I was upset.

Speaker: But I did go back and watch it on the WWE Network for $9.99.

Speaker: If you were a year late, that means that you're more than a year late.

Speaker: Because if he was doing that when you were born, that means that even if you were three years early, you still would have been late.

Speaker: That man was on personal a long time ago.

Speaker: Pretty much all his career.

Speaker: Well, I was talking about his 06 run, but, you know, that's the best of them.

Speaker: But then you still had the TNA run.

Speaker: You missed the TNA run?

Speaker: Yeah, the TNA was, yeah, when he did that.

Speaker: No, I caught some of the TNA run.

Speaker: I thought about the TNA 09.

Speaker: That was still part angle.

Speaker: Yeah, I thought about the TNA 07.

Speaker: No, not 07.

Speaker: When Jeff stole his woman.

Speaker: Oh, Jeff stole his woman.

Speaker: Y'all remember that?

Speaker: Karen, you look at me when I'm talking to you real quick.

Speaker: You know what's crazy?

Speaker: Go ahead.

Speaker: Let me talk to you, Karen.

Speaker: Go ahead.

Speaker: Karen, you want me to hear what I got to say.

Speaker: What's funny is that, do you guys watch the documentary on Kurt Angle that WWE had on?

Speaker: I sure did.

Speaker: It was great.

Speaker: You notice how they didn't mention her at all?

Speaker: I wasn't either.

Speaker: You cheater.

Speaker: I would have aired her ass out on that documentary.

Speaker: You adulterer.

Speaker: But we love Kurt, though.

Speaker: I'm surprised Kurt didn't tell her business.

Speaker: For a minute, when I was watching that, I was like, maybe that's not his real wife.

Speaker: When it was happening, because... But no, she's really just a dirty hoe.

Speaker: That was his woman.

Speaker: She's nasty.

Speaker: She spread it low and laid it wide.

Speaker: Yeah, and Kurt Angle was way better looking than Jeff Jarrett.

Speaker: He still is!

Speaker: Jeff Jarrett, ugly!

Speaker: I don't know if I still is, but back then, for real.

Speaker: I will say that he was on a lot of drugs, so maybe that was a contributing factor, but you don't run to the next man.

Speaker: Nacho Man Coworker.

Speaker: And then have it all on national television, and you still with him on television.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: One thing I can say about it, she's still with him.

Speaker: I can't be mad at this.

Speaker: Because if I done cheated and I done made myself a fool, I'm going to stake with my decision.

Speaker: She's staying on business.

Speaker: I'm interested.

Speaker: And I also respect Kurt Angle because Kurt Angle hasn't dragged her in the mud, really, in public ever since that interview way back in the day.

Speaker: He's happy and married.

Speaker: He's happy and married with his kids and his best life.

Speaker: He's content.

Speaker: He said he don't want to get back in no ring no more.

Speaker: I'm happy for him.

Speaker: Shout out to Kurt.

Speaker: Always had those great theme songs.

Speaker: Never miss the beat.

Speaker: You suck.

Speaker: What was we talking about, though?

Speaker: I forgot.

Speaker: We mentioned Naomi and then we just stopped talking about it.

Speaker: I mentioned Naomi to compare the situation to Ricky.

Speaker: Shout out to Ricky.

Speaker: Where is Ricky?

Speaker: That's what we want to know.

Speaker: He's sitting at home watching Netflix.

Speaker: What is Tony Khan really doing, though?

Speaker: Why are you doing this?

Speaker: He's petty.

Speaker: He's mad.

Speaker: You know who needs to be off camera?

Speaker: Because I don't care for them.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Oh.

Speaker: Who?

Speaker: The... Dang, you made me forget their names now.

Speaker: The Young Bucks.

Speaker: I can't stand them.

Speaker: They do nothing for me.

Speaker: They don't do anything for me either, but I get it because you need somebody in the elite to be there while the big elite are out.

Speaker: Do you?

Speaker: You do.

Speaker: All elite.

Speaker: Wrestling.

Speaker: You kind of need somebody in there.

Speaker: Duke, but do you?

Speaker: You do.

Speaker: Okay, so pause.

Speaker: Before we even go there, before we even go all in that, I remember last week you said that you wanted to talk about all the problems with AEW.

Speaker: I do.

Speaker: I'm going to let you have your room.

Speaker: I'm going to let you have the floor.

Speaker: Right now?

Speaker: Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker: Talk about it right now.

Speaker: Air it all up first.

Speaker: Because we're already talking about AEW and everything, so there's no better time.

Speaker: Since we are here,

Speaker: I think one of the biggest problems with AEW is that they done hide everybody and they mama.

Speaker: Everybody is bloated.

Speaker: Find some of these people and pressure wash this house because it's too bloated.

Speaker: Why do you have so many titles?

Speaker: You shouldn't have all these titles.

Speaker: You got the TNT title.

Speaker: You got the TBS title.

Speaker: You got the FTW title.

Speaker: We still don't know what that do.

Speaker: You got the world title.

Speaker: You got the intercontinental.

Speaker: Not the intercontinental.

Speaker: What is it called?

Speaker: The internet.

Speaker: The Pacific.

Speaker: Whatever the title.

Speaker: You done changed the name so many times.

Speaker: Don't nobody know what it is.

Speaker: You got the trios title.

Speaker: You got all the titles on Ring of Honor.

Speaker: And don't they got like two trios titles?

Speaker: Ring of Honor has their own set of trios titles.

Speaker: Why are these titles not together?

Speaker: You don't have enough TV time for these titles.

Speaker: I'm so sorry if y'all hear my earring, hearing my microphone.

Speaker: I'm sorry.

Speaker: But you have all of these titles and you have all of these people, but you have no time and you have three shows.

Speaker: Number two.

Speaker: Can I go down the list?

Speaker: Can I keep going?

Speaker: Yes, keep going.

Speaker: Number two, you done made a whole show for a guy that's not there no more.

Speaker: You done made, what was it, collision around?

Speaker: You done made collision for CM Punk to keep him at your company.

Speaker: And he's not there anymore.

Speaker: You fired him.

Speaker: He's not there anymore.

Speaker: You know what's crazy is that he got fired soon after Collision went on air.

Speaker: Soon after Collision went on air.

Speaker: Right after, right in the midst of his program with Ricky Starks.

Speaker: Where is Ricky?

Speaker: Number three, where is Ricky?

Speaker: You got all these people.

Speaker: There's no reason why Ricky shouldn't be going for that belt that Okada have.

Speaker: Not that one.

Speaker: The one that... The fact that they just handed Okada that belt when he got there is crazy, too.

Speaker: And I'm not even mad at that.

Speaker: I'm not mad at that.

Speaker: But... You got too many belts.

Speaker: Let's hang some of these up.

Speaker: Let's combine some of these.

Speaker: Let's do something.

Speaker: It's not giving.

Speaker: You keep having all of these shiny new toys that you don't know what to do because you don't want them to lose.

Speaker: But then you have all these people with these massive records.

Speaker: And can't nobody take a loss.

Speaker: I'm going to keep going.

Speaker: Can I keep going?

Speaker: Yeah, come on.

Speaker: Come on.

Speaker: Come on.

Speaker: Preach it like you feel it.

Speaker: And this is not so much a problem.

Speaker: It has been a problem for me, but I say it's more in a caution type of category now.

Speaker: They're booking on the women's division.

Speaker: Shout out to Mercedes Monet for coming and telling Tony Khan to book these women the way that they need to be booked.

Speaker: Because how many storylines do we have now in AEW?

Speaker: Maybe four?

Speaker: Four?

Speaker: Four or five?

Speaker: Mercedes.

Speaker: The Mercedes trio with Chris and Willow.

Speaker: Then you got Ruby and her baby daddy.

Speaker: Shout out to Ruby.

Speaker: They just got married.

Speaker: Cool hair and inch.

Speaker: Girl, they got married?

Speaker: They got married.

Speaker: Ain't that nice?

Speaker: Yeah, well, we ain't gonna see her for a while.

Speaker: We ain't going to see her for a long little minute.

Speaker: That storyline is gone.

Speaker: It's gone.

Speaker: But it was cute while it was there.

Speaker: Then you have Thunder Rosa and what's Chopper's girl?

Speaker: Deanna Parrazzo.

Speaker: Deanna Parrazzo.

Speaker: Got her with Deanna Parrazzo.

Speaker: And you also have Toni Storm, Mariah May, and Mariah's tag team partner from Stardom, Mina Shabakara.

Speaker: Ooh, Shabakawa.

Speaker: That's how you see it.

Speaker: And then not even, you know, Ring of Honor stuff, Julia is still in the midst of where you kind of have more than zero, you know?

Speaker: At a certain point, we had zero.

Speaker: And we were struggling.

Speaker: We were very hungry.

Speaker: Tony Khan was not feeding us.

Speaker: But then Big Swole spoke up.

Speaker: And let's get into this diversity and inclusion.

Speaker: Okay?

Speaker: I want to know why now

Speaker: Do we see all of this?

Speaker: We need more representation, need more representation, need more representation when Big Swole said it five years ago.

Speaker: She was ate up.

Speaker: Ate up.

Speaker: Ain't seen a sense.

Speaker: Ain't seen a sense.

Speaker: Where's Sunny Kiss?

Speaker: Why did Sunny Kiss get released?

Speaker: Why wasn't she?

Speaker: They are on TV.

Speaker: Where's Nyla Rose?

Speaker: Need her.

Speaker: But representation.

Speaker: Okay, cool.

Speaker: Then you have this COON as the world champion.

Speaker: And that was your remedy.

Speaker: You know, we love him.

Speaker: No, I'm not calling him anything.

Speaker: Shout out to him for being the first black world champion in AW five years later, Tony Khan.

Speaker: So what?

Speaker: Five years.

Speaker: You didn't call him anything, but you called him something.

Speaker: I didn't say anything.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: I didn't say a word.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker: And where is Tony's balls?

Speaker: That's my last day and I'm done.

Speaker: Where are your balls?

Speaker: Where is your team?

Speaker: Where is your support staff?

Speaker: Where they have not dropped.

Speaker: And then every time you ask them a question, they say, and you want to talk about a competition.

Speaker: You're not a competition.

Speaker: You never will be a competition.

Speaker: I'm sorry.

Speaker: Be who you are in this world, in this life.

Speaker: We have to show up authentically as we are.

Speaker: And Tony has not done that.

Speaker: He showed up as a nutcase.

Speaker: That was how you feel.

Speaker: Look, listen.

Speaker: You was preaching it like you feel it.

Speaker: And that's all I wanted to hear.

Speaker: Great stuff, man.

Speaker: I was stuck on the Coon comment.

Speaker: Who said that?

Speaker: You!

Speaker: Technically, he didn't say the word.

Speaker: He spelled it.

Speaker: I can't even spell.

Speaker: I have dyslexia.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: So I might have spelled nuke.

Speaker: But AEW has a lot of problems, as Donnie stated, and the ratings are just going downhill.

Speaker: Although I don't care about ratings, but they had 600,000.

Speaker: Tony Khan cares about ratings.

Speaker: This past week they watched, and it was the worst AEW has done since the pandemic.

Speaker: That happened last week.

Speaker: So things need to change.

Speaker: I watched Wednesday and nothing was, it wasn't, it was giving nothing.

Speaker: I said, where's Will Osborne?

Speaker: And Double or Nothing is coming up.

Speaker: One of their biggest shows.

Speaker: Yep.

Speaker: It's going to be a good card, too.

Speaker: It's next Saturday.

Speaker: What I don't... No, this coming up Saturday.

Speaker: This Saturday.

Speaker: Dang, it's this Saturday.

Speaker: Next Saturday is June 1st.

Speaker: I'm sorry, Sunday.

Speaker: I'm sorry.

Speaker: It's this coming up Sunday.

Speaker: Sunday.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: May 26th.

Speaker: WWE's pay-per-view Saturday.

Speaker: That's going to be a busy weekend.

Speaker: It is going to be a busy weekend.

Speaker: Oh, boy.

Speaker: And then I have another birthday that I go this Sunday.

Speaker: Oh, so snaps.

Speaker: Are you guys watching AEW?

Speaker: I'm going to catch the highlights.

Speaker: I'm going to catch the live tweets because I'm not about to pay for it.

Speaker: I'm probably going to pay for it because I want to see Mercedes.

Speaker: I have someone helping me out watching the show.

Speaker: So when are we going to record next week?

Speaker: Now that I think about that, are we going to record Monday again?

Speaker: Hoo, chow.

Speaker: It's up to y'all.

Speaker: I mean, we could record...

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: I feel like we should talk about AEW.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So you guys want to do a podcast after Double or Nothing?

Speaker: Depending on what time it ends.

Speaker: It's supposed to end at nighttime, ain't it?

Speaker: Yeah, I don't know about that because their pay-per-views be lasting long as fuck.

Speaker: Let's just do Monday.

Speaker: Let's do Monday again.

Speaker: Yeah, they be till midnight and yeah, I'm out.

Speaker: So Monday at 5 again tomorrow.

Speaker: Okay, I mean next Monday.

Speaker: But anyways, yeah, but I agree with everything you said about...

Speaker: A-E-W-N.

Speaker: The show.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I'm not calling nobody a coon, though.

Speaker: Me either.

Speaker: But if the shoe fits, put the bitch on and wear them.

Speaker: Lace them up.

Speaker: Lace them up and tie them up and wear them.

Speaker: He is a good champion, though.

Speaker: And he got both of them on.

Speaker: He do.

Speaker: Yep.

Speaker: He's a good champion.

Speaker: But a top 100 blacklist is too much.

Speaker: I just don't.

Speaker: That's the real thing right there.

Speaker: If you put a coon as a champion, that means that you get somebody that's black and that goes with your agenda.

Speaker: Maybe that was the wrong spelling.

Speaker: Maybe I should have spelled token.

Speaker: Just checking off the checkboxes, y'all.

Speaker: Check.

Speaker: That's the champion right there.

Speaker: Thank God it's him and thank God it's him because he is a great wrestler.

Speaker: He's a great performer.

Speaker: He's one of my favorite performers in AEW.

Speaker: Great wrestler.

Speaker: Great wrestler.

Speaker: Beautiful gowns.

Speaker: Oh, Rita.

Speaker: Moving on.

Speaker: What else do we got on the agenda?

Speaker: You wanted to bring up Los Lotharios.

Speaker: Okay, so I did want to talk about them.

Speaker: Angel Garza and Alberto Carrillo.

Speaker: Carrillo.

Speaker: The reason why is because I feel like they are so good.

Speaker: Ben.

Speaker: Ben.

Speaker: been so good i was happy when they got together i thought they was you know but then we had the issue with the tag teams being you know together but now that they're split i really want them to be pushed i mean the like realistically speaking on the main card the only person actually that they give a chance to a really opportunities to is ray misterio and his old ass i love ray six one nine go 60

Speaker: And I don't even count Dominique Mysterio as Mexican.

Speaker: I don't know what he is, but... Well, apparently Rey Mysterio is supposed to be retiring within the next year or two.

Speaker: Okay, he needs to retire yesterday.

Speaker: Why you don't count Dominique as Mexican, to real?

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: He just doesn't give me Mexican.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Maybe it's because he's running around with Rhea Ripley.

Speaker: I feel like he's disrespecting his culture.

Speaker: I don't think Rey's going to resign.

Speaker: Oh, I don't think they'll resign him.

Speaker: He needs to go home with Ange.

Speaker: But I feel like it may be because he's running around with that white woman.

Speaker: I like Rhea.

Speaker: That's the only thing I'm thinking.

Speaker: I think that that's why I'm discrediting him.

Speaker: You think he's been colonized?

Speaker: He has been colonized.

Speaker: Can't you tell?

Speaker: Calling a white woman mommy.

Speaker: If I was Mexican, I would go some type of way.

Speaker: When you put it like that.

Speaker: Yeah, like...

Speaker: it's not looking too good for you dumb dumb yeah but that but that that is funny oh my god mommy so yeah um never never absolutely um but los los los they are so they're great in the ring they are generational wrestlers their dads were wrestlers their grandfather was a wrestler i was gonna say i think they're like third generation

Speaker: Yeah, they're third generation.

Speaker: Because they're cousins, I think.

Speaker: They're real life cousins.

Speaker: They're dads or brothers.

Speaker: I just looked this up last week because I was wondering, are they really cousins?

Speaker: This is Kayfabe, I don't know, but they're actually real life cousins.

Speaker: They grew up together kind of thing.

Speaker: They're decent looking.

Speaker: And that whole gimmick that they were doing were decent.

Speaker: They're good looking guys.

Speaker: Very.

Speaker: Come on now.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: But when they were giving the roses out to the audience and they're kissing the girl, I like the whole gimmick of that.

Speaker: I feel like they get a little bit of a push and then they just take it away.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And I feel like them being with what's his name?

Speaker: Escobar?

Speaker: Santos Escobar isn't doing anything for them.

Speaker: It's really not.

Speaker: It was cool if the feud would have been a better feud because they tried to feud with the LWO and it just didn't do anything like it was supposed to.

Speaker: My thing is you can't put two Mexican stables and Zelina and Joaquin together, fight them and expect the American audience as racist as they are to care.

Speaker: What I don't understand, and I still have not yet to understand it, since you said his name and I've said this to y'all before, how the hell is Joaquin Wilder in the LWO and he is Filipino?

Speaker: He's Filipino.

Speaker: He is not Mexican.

Speaker: He is not Latino.

Speaker: Well, you know, as they say, he looks the part.

Speaker: He really don't, though, to me.

Speaker: He don't.

Speaker: He looks Filipino.

Speaker: That's what the people on Twitter say.

Speaker: Well, yeah, those racist-ass people on Twitter don't know shit.

Speaker: Well, you know, a lot of times, sometimes within the Asia community, Filipinos are given that Latino or Latin American label because they do have a lot of Spanish influence.

Speaker: Let's call it what it is.

Speaker: They were colonized.

Speaker: They were colonized.

Speaker: By the Spaniards and...

Speaker: They were stripped of their identity, like black people and stuff like that.

Speaker: So white people again.

Speaker: We want to call the space.

Speaker: So that that is why a lot of them have last last name, Spanish last names and, you know, cultures.

Speaker: People say, well, yeah, I'd be like Filipinos because the cultures are similar.

Speaker: Well, yeah.

Speaker: The reason the cultures are similar is because the Spaniards came over here and did that to y'all.

Speaker: And with all they women.

Speaker: raped all day women and then yeah that's the real team so there's that but yeah i think that they're so great i feel like they should be get a push i feel like if they had a good feud with um austin and what's his face um what's his name

Speaker: Australian dude Grayson Walder Grayson Walder Grayson Walder Grayson Walder yeah I feel like they could probably do something um

Speaker: I still think Austin needs to turn on Grayson.

Speaker: And I think that we're starting to see, like, little bits of certain things.

Speaker: Because Grayson will do certain things or whatever.

Speaker: And Austin will look at him kind of sideways like, why?

Speaker: So I think that they're building that.

Speaker: So I hope they do build it and Austin actually turns babyface.

Speaker: Because his heel run is... It's run its course.

Speaker: Um...

Speaker: But yeah, Los Toros is so... I think they're so good in the ring.

Speaker: I think that they work great as a tag team.

Speaker: And... Like, when they just lost this past Friday to... DIY... I was going to call them DX.

Speaker: Y'all got the reference.

Speaker: DIY... I don't know.

Speaker: I feel like...

Speaker: I like DIY, but I feel like I like them better.

Speaker: In NXT?

Speaker: Yeah, they were good in NXT, but on the main roster, they're not.

Speaker: They're not good together on the main roster.

Speaker: They're not good apart on the main roster.

Speaker: They don't.

Speaker: The more I think about it, the more I get where Dirty Vince was coming from when you have to meet a certain height requirement to get on the ride.

Speaker: I get it now when I look at Johnny Gargano wrestled.

Speaker: Nothing that he does is believable when you have him against his opponents.

Speaker: How does a leg slap hurt me?

Speaker: You said a leg slap?

Speaker: That's all he does is slap his legs.

Speaker: He slaps his thighs all the time.

Speaker: I'm dead.

Speaker: I don't know how that's supposed to help me.

Speaker: It doesn't help the impact.

Speaker: You little Johnny Gargano this big.

Speaker: You're going to leave Johnny Gargano alone, man.

Speaker: No, I'm not either.

Speaker: No, come on, man.

Speaker: Leave my boy alone.

Speaker: What he did to you?

Speaker: I mean, the leg slap works.

Speaker: Okay, he's been doing it for years.

Speaker: It works with Adam Cole.

Speaker: CT and Johnny the same size.

Speaker: They are.

Speaker: Y'all going to stop playing with my boy.

Speaker: In some way, I still feel like CT hits harder.

Speaker: Bro, I hit harder than a professionally trained wrestler.

Speaker: Than a Johnny Gargano guess.

Speaker: That can probably throw me halfway across the ring.

Speaker: He can what?

Speaker: Johnny Gargano is not throwing you halfway across the ring.

Speaker: He's not.

Speaker: He can definitely pick me up and slam me down though.

Speaker: You might like that.

Speaker: What do you think about Choppa?

Speaker: Chop him.

Speaker: You said chop him.

Speaker: Chop him.

Speaker: Chop.

Speaker: It's giving me all chops.

Speaker: The whole thing is giving me chops.

Speaker: It didn't work when he came.

Speaker: It didn't work when he was with the Miz.

Speaker: R-Truth and the Miz is working better together than the Miz and Chopper.

Speaker: I mean, not Chopper.

Speaker: Shout out to Chopper.

Speaker: Champa.

Speaker: Yeah, I think that, but I think The Miz is working really good right now because he's with R-Truth.

Speaker: R-Truth is a comedic, you know, they just work well together.

Speaker: They were already a team before, so it makes sense.

Speaker: Yeah, they work well together.

Speaker: I hope Ciampa never gets a main roster champ championship.

Speaker: Why would you wish that on somebody?

Speaker: I wish that he is employed.

Speaker: I wish that he has a great run.

Speaker: I don't need him to get more than a United States championship.

Speaker: Honestly, I don't need him.

Speaker: So you want him to be a Corbin, a Baron Corbin?

Speaker: Worse.

Speaker: Why don't you like him?

Speaker: I love him.

Speaker: Don't get me wrong.

Speaker: Well, I do.

Speaker: I love him.

Speaker: I like to see him in his old matches.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Okay, so then what do you feel about Ricochet?

Speaker: Because he's still a smaller guy.

Speaker: Granted, he's, you know, McLaughlin.

Speaker: Ricochet gives me something.

Speaker: And he's been giving me something.

Speaker: I look at D.I.

Speaker: No, and at the day, they give me nothing.

Speaker: Or DIY.

Speaker: DIY?

Speaker: Are you on my screen?

Speaker: DIY.

Speaker: DIY?

Speaker: Did you win that match?

Speaker: Like, I don't.

Speaker: I didn't know that you had this against Johnny Varanis.

Speaker: I did not know this at all.

Speaker: This is shocking.

Speaker: The revelations that are coming out in this podcast today.

Speaker: What do you think about, what's their names?

Speaker: Pete Dunn's not his name no more.

Speaker: Butch and Tyler Bates.

Speaker: No, they changed his name back to Pete Dunn, I thought.

Speaker: Yeah, they speak Dunn.

Speaker: Oh, they changed it back to Pete Dunne?

Speaker: Yeah, because Butch is absolutely garbage.

Speaker: Garbage.

Speaker: I want to punch Vespa Man in the face for that.

Speaker: I wouldn't call that man a damn Butch.

Speaker: I'm sorry.

Speaker: What do you feel about J.D.

Speaker: McDonough, a.k.a.

Speaker: Jordan Dunn?

Speaker: Don't nobody care about Boxhead yet.

Speaker: They be really built by his head.

Speaker: I'll be honest.

Speaker: I'm not a fan of JD.

Speaker: He was good on the NAC UK.

Speaker: He was.

Speaker: Do you think that it's the wrestlers or do you think it's the matchups and the time that they're given and the matches that they put them in?

Speaker: My thing is it doesn't matter what match you put Pete Dunne in, I'm going to enjoy it because I know he's going to do that little finger snap thing.

Speaker: I'm not really a fan of SpongeBob when he comes in the ring and try to tag on with Judgment Day.

Speaker: I'm not.

Speaker: I feel like if they take him out and him and what's his name?

Speaker: Abs, what's his name?

Speaker: Finn.

Speaker: Finn.

Speaker: I feel like, because they're from the same place, they have history, and I feel like they could actually be a decent tag team if they get away from the Judgment Day.

Speaker: I think that it could be believable, because I feel like they'll work good together.

Speaker: We haven't seen it yet.

Speaker: They might work good together.

Speaker: I feel like that one thing is J.D.

Speaker: needs to cut his hair, because that long hair is not working for him.

Speaker: What is?

Speaker: What is?

Speaker: Yeah, the long hair gotta go.

Speaker: But did you see the match that he had with, when they came in... What's my dude's name?

Speaker: Oh, you asked a question, Seria, about, like, is it the timing or whatever?

Speaker: I think it's a mix of both.

Speaker: I think it's the people that they're facing.

Speaker: It's the time that they're giving them to.

Speaker: Because the people that you're naming that you don't really care for are good wrestlers.

Speaker: Like, they're not bad wrestlers.

Speaker: No, never said that.

Speaker: Never said that.

Speaker: It's just that it sees the people that they're facing and the timing.

Speaker: So what do you think?

Speaker: That's what I'm saying.

Speaker: What do you think it is that they worked on in NXT but they're not working here?

Speaker: I think on NXT and...

Speaker: I think on NXT, especially with Ciampa and Gargano, they are each other's best opponents, if we call them it like it is.

Speaker: I was never that interested in a Gargano match outside of Ciampa, and I was never that interested in a Ciampa match outside of Gargano.

Speaker: Any other match that I was interested in from those two particular wrestlers had to have been with Adam Cole.

Speaker: I like Adam Cole.

Speaker: He gets me interested.

Speaker: That ladder match, I like Ricochet.

Speaker: He's been interested.

Speaker: It was never because of them.

Speaker: I don't think that the main roster is a place for them to shine.

Speaker: So what I will say is, and y'all can have a difference of opinion, I feel like

Speaker: that Champa and Garganos is kind of, they're trying to do a similar thing of the whole Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn thing.

Speaker: The difference is, I feel like the same way.

Speaker: I feel like Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens really don't work.

Speaker: Kevin Owens can keep me entertained.

Speaker: But Kevin Owens was a champion, a world champion, and do you remember any of his matches from when he was a champion?

Speaker: That first one, that's it.

Speaker: The one he won the belt?

Speaker: Yep.

Speaker: Who did he win it from?

Speaker: John Cena, didn't he?

Speaker: I don't even remember.

Speaker: No, wait.

Speaker: No, you're talking about world championship?

Speaker: The one when he won the universal title?

Speaker: The universal championship, yeah.

Speaker: Who did he win it from?

Speaker: The only one I remember is the Goldberg match.

Speaker: That's because he lost.

Speaker: He won it...

Speaker: I don't remember anything from Goldberg.

Speaker: Yeah, he lost it to Oberg, and then Oberg lost it to Brock.

Speaker: Wait, pause.

Speaker: That's what I'm saying.

Speaker: That's a joke.

Speaker: And that's what they thought about him.

Speaker: I think that Kevin Owens is amazing.

Speaker: I think that he's good.

Speaker: But when he's a champion, it's not that.

Speaker: It just does nothing for me.

Speaker: I think when he and Jericho had that stinker at WrestleMania that really wasn't that bad, but it was kind of bad, I think that really messed him up.

Speaker: He ain't really been the same since before then.

Speaker: But I think that Kevin Owens is not a main character.

Speaker: He's a supporting role.

Speaker: Agree.

Speaker: And I think that that's the problem with his whole career.

Speaker: He can't hold a title because he's a supporting role.

Speaker: When him and Jericho were, they had their little thing, you're on the laser and all this other stuff.

Speaker: You've never seen Kevin Owens in R.H.?

Speaker: We're not talking about R.H.

Speaker: We're talking about... I mean, nobody's talking about Kevin Owens.

Speaker: No, you were saying that he can't be a world champion.

Speaker: Yes, he can.

Speaker: I didn't say he couldn't be a world champion.

Speaker: He said he couldn't be a main character.

Speaker: Exactly.

Speaker: He can be.

Speaker: If they turn him heel... Listen to me.

Speaker: Listen right here.

Speaker: Damien Priest is a world champion, but he's still not a main character.

Speaker: He does not suck.

Speaker: He does not suck.

Speaker: What are you talking about?

Speaker: You done gone too far.

Speaker: He was not a main character.

Speaker: He was a supporting role.

Speaker: Right now, he's a supporting role.

Speaker: The main character is the title.

Speaker: The title wearing him.

Speaker: The title is wearing him.

Speaker: Because he wasn't ready.

Speaker: But he's like 40.

Speaker: He's 43, I think.

Speaker: Not too much on that knees.

Speaker: He's not going to get ready.

Speaker: We love you, Damien.

Speaker: I just don't.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: I don't know what it is.

Speaker: Like, they need... Like, I feel like he really needs to... Like, whatever they're doing right now is not working.

Speaker: Mm-mm.

Speaker: Like, Ben should have turned heel... Or turned on him.

Speaker: And they could have made Damien a baby face.

Speaker: And that would have, you know, been better for him.

Speaker: Him right now... Stopping the Judgment Day from attacking...

Speaker: attacking and whatchamacallit, being mad that they came out there and then the next Monday apologizing and saying that, oh, thank you guys.

Speaker: It makes no fucking sense.

Speaker: Like you had something right there and you could have ran with that and turned, you know?

Speaker: Could have.

Speaker: Rhea's not here.

Speaker: You could have turned it.

Speaker: Like it could have been something and then you squashed it.

Speaker: And they keep doing that every time.

Speaker: Like I'm just like, you need to make Damien upset that he has, I'm sorry, you need to make Finn upset that he has a title.

Speaker: This is the only thing that I think is going to revive his career.

Speaker: Or revive him being, you know, a good champion.

Speaker: But then, even if that happens, he's still not going to be the main character.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Becky Lynch is the top champion now on Raw.

Speaker: And I don't change this shit with that belt since she had it.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: And realistically, realistically speaking, the top champions on Raw is... Miss and Truth.

Speaker: Yeah, they really are.

Speaker: I was going to say that.

Speaker: Yeah, Raw kind of looks like the everyday championships.

Speaker: Where is Gonta when you need him?

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: I forgot about Sammy had the belt.

Speaker: I think we all did.

Speaker: Jesus Christ, man.

Speaker: How did we forget and we were pissed off about it?

Speaker: That's the crazy part.

Speaker: So the bad thing about that is so we hope that Chad gets the belt.

Speaker: I did not want Chad to have the belt as a heel though.

Speaker: I wouldn't be mad at it because I feel like he'll be able to go on a tear.

Speaker: Like, at a certain point, he's going to have to morph Digivolve, if you will, from Goofy Hill to... Oh, he's been being mean.

Speaker: Like, when he slapped Otis...

Speaker: Oh, he slapped a fire out of Otis.

Speaker: Yes, and Otis didn't really?

Speaker: I seen a segment before I came on here that was posted about it on Twitter.

Speaker: Oh, so you had time to check on segments, but you ain't time to get on here on time?

Speaker: I said I was on Twitter as I was walking to my room.

Speaker: That man got a new face.

Speaker: You can't tell him nothing.

Speaker: He got a new face.

Speaker: You can't tell him nothing.

Speaker: Yes, you can't.

Speaker: You see, y'all see, but the beard will be back by August.

Speaker: But anyway.

Speaker: You ain't never had a beard.

Speaker: You have some stubble.

Speaker: First of all, this was a beard and I had the sides too.

Speaker: Don't play with this.

Speaker: You're going to see in August when they come back.

Speaker: It's already coming back already.

Speaker: The next two weeks, you're going to see black hair.

Speaker: Pause.

Speaker: If I have to wait till August to see your beard, it ain't a beard, bro.

Speaker: It didn't connect.

Speaker: It did not.

Speaker: Just like most of Johnny Gargano's kicks.

Speaker: It did not connect.

Speaker: I mean, just to see it full, but I mean, the beer going to be back next week.

Speaker: You know what I do hate when Gargano's does is when he do that little turn on the ring, turn on the ground or whatever and try to kick him.

Speaker: Because please, somebody put this baby in a stroller or something.

Speaker: No effort.

Speaker: It's not a stroller.

Speaker: Who Candice LeRae, I feel like it.

Speaker: Touchy.

Speaker: Touchy for me.

Speaker: Touchy for me because I was a big fan of Candice LeRae in NXT.

Speaker: She can work.

Speaker: She can work, but they don't have her own.

Speaker: I feel like she's her and Mia.

Speaker: Candice LeCant.

Speaker: Candice LeCant, no.

Speaker: She's Candice LeCant.

Speaker: Candice LeGoHomerace.

Speaker: Candace was forgotten.

Speaker: I love Candace.

Speaker: We love you, Candace.

Speaker: She's one of the best women wrestlers that they have on the roster.

Speaker: Now, Indy Hartwell?

Speaker: Who?

Speaker: No comment.

Speaker: We love you, Indy.

Speaker: I really enjoyed their family.

Speaker: That was good.

Speaker: That was good.

Speaker: Bring me more of that stuff.

Speaker: I just don't see like Indy is not what they say she's the most beatable champion on the roster when she was in NXT and I couldn't even argue with that because do you know where her finisher is?

Speaker: Was it a crossbody?

Speaker: So she tried to do the springboard and I don't know if it was crossbody or a clothesline.

Speaker: It was a clothesline.

Speaker: Yeah, it was a springboard clothesline.

Speaker: But she botched it a couple times and hit the ground before she even hit the wrestler.

Speaker: And that's okay.

Speaker: And then she tried to do, I think she tried to do a big boot maybe.

Speaker: But she botched that too because she missed them.

Speaker: Back to people who actually matter.

Speaker: Shout out to Jade and I and Jeff for their match that they had on Friday.

Speaker: Yes, Jade and I, yes.

Speaker: That wasn't even really a match, but like, that's the fuse that I've been waiting for.

Speaker: It has.

Speaker: And I'm still waiting on it.

Speaker: I feel like there's more.

Speaker: Finally.

Speaker: They should have... There's no reason why... And I say this.

Speaker: This is why Bianca and Naomi should have been the champions.

Speaker: And Jade could have had her feud with Nia.

Speaker: And they didn't even have to have a match.

Speaker: Nia could have just interrupted her a couple times while she was having matches with other people getting her disqualified.

Speaker: So she still wins the match.

Speaker: Like, they're...

Speaker: So many ways.

Speaker: It shouldn't have gone this way.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: So now we have this feud pending between them, but she's a champion, so we're not even really going to get to touch that right now.

Speaker: But I think that's good.

Speaker: I think that's okay because I feel like, one, Naya can get pretty much any partner that she wants.

Speaker: If that's the route that goes.

Speaker: And two, after they lose the title belts, there's already a ready feud between Nia and Jade.

Speaker: So then what happens with Bayley?

Speaker: Because Bayley's not doing nothing right now.

Speaker: Because she can go against Tiffany Stratton, but like... Don't nobody want to see Tiffany Stratton.

Speaker: She done lost.

Speaker: She gone.

Speaker: Speaking of Tiffany Stratton.

Speaker: Speaking of Tiffany, we didn't even get to her.

Speaker: I almost forgot about Tiffany Stratton.

Speaker: Come on back here, Tiffany.

Speaker: We ain't done with you yet.

Speaker: I don't care about Tiffy time.

Speaker: She's past her prime.

Speaker: Past her prime?

Speaker: She just started.

Speaker: She's only like 20-something.

Speaker: She old for her age, though.

Speaker: She look 40.

Speaker: Oh, my God.

Speaker: She does not look gold.

Speaker: But y'all know how them folks age, though.

Speaker: They age 10 times as fast as us.

Speaker: That's not the hero in there.

Speaker: Wait, CT, calm down.

Speaker: Calm down.

Speaker: Because she should have never said what she said.

Speaker: She didn't say anything.

Speaker: She didn't say anything.

Speaker: She posted something and put laughing emojis.

Speaker: pause let's rewind it back she does not look over hage we're not gonna attack her parents and them hard titties we're not gonna attack oh it's not my fault they said pause she's great in the ring absolutely wonderful nothing nothing she's great in the ring to real she didn't say anything I feel like she's great in the ring she's annoying enough but she's not she's the right kind of annoying she is okay so Thea Hill you know Thea Hill right

Speaker: NAC.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That bitch annoys the fuck out of me.

Speaker: That's the kind of annoying we don't want.

Speaker: Okay, but back to whatchamacallit.

Speaker: And I don't mean bitch as in bitch.

Speaker: I mean bitch as a term of endearment.

Speaker: But back to Tiffany.

Speaker: Like, I think that they need to stop her push after that thing.

Speaker: I don't know if they will.

Speaker: You post that racist-ass video and you don't think that they should stop her push?

Speaker: Yes, I don't respect her no more.

Speaker: Before the video, I was rooting for her to beat Bianca.

Speaker: She lost my respect.

Speaker: Not clean.

Speaker: And then her fight Jade.

Speaker: Because I just assumed that they were going to have Jade beat Nia.

Speaker: But I'm okay with how they did it.

Speaker: And I think that Tiffany's going to interfere and cost Bianca the match.

Speaker: And then we'll probably get Tiffany and Nia versus Jade and Bianca.

Speaker: You know, I wouldn't... Yeah, because Nia and Tiffany are like kind of buddies right now.

Speaker: Yeah, in real life.

Speaker: In real life.

Speaker: So, but that leaves still.

Speaker: What is Bailey gonna do?

Speaker: Hmm.

Speaker: Sit.

Speaker: But, so back to... Before we... I don't want to just brush over this, though.

Speaker: I ain't, because I ain't know what you're doing.

Speaker: You're supposed to do this video.

Speaker: Bailey.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: We'll go back to Bailey, but wait.

Speaker: I don't want to brush over the incident.

Speaker: She posted this video.

Speaker: It has racial connotations behind the video, as you guys have seen the video right now.

Speaker: That is just... I don't think she's racist.

Speaker: I think she's ignorant.

Speaker: Rookie move.

Speaker: I think it was a rookie move.

Speaker: But what I will say is...

Speaker: Okay, so remember when we had, on NXT, we had Wesley.

Speaker: Shout out to Wesley, and I'm glad that he is back.

Speaker: But his partner, I don't remember his partner's name on there, but Zachary Wentz had his wife posted the picture of him dressed like Hitler or whatever.

Speaker: Or did the little mustache like Hitler or whatever.

Speaker: He got terminated because of that.

Speaker: And that was in the past.

Speaker: Way in the past.

Speaker: He didn't even post this.

Speaker: Somebody else posted it.

Speaker: Yep.

Speaker: So for Tiffany to post this on her Instagram and think that it is funny, calling Jade, somebody in the video calling Jade a black bitch and think that it's funny and nothing happened to her, but they fired this whole man for doing something similar.

Speaker: My thing is we barely wanted to hear it from Brandi Rose.

Speaker: We barely wanted to hear it when Brandi Rose called Jade that on AEW.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Now, and this is why I struggle because... But did she call her a black bitch or just a bitch?

Speaker: Oh, no.

Speaker: Actually, I think she called herself a black bitch.

Speaker: But nobody wanted to hear anybody say that.

Speaker: And she called her... And it wasn't to Jade.

Speaker: It wasn't to Jade.

Speaker: It was her.

Speaker: She called herself that.

Speaker: But she can call herself that, though.

Speaker: But my thing is, when you're calling yourself that or calling somebody else that, nobody wants to hear that.

Speaker: Why would you, as a white woman, your bleach blonde...

Speaker: That's what I'm trying to control.

Speaker: I'm trying to leave it alone.

Speaker: But Terrell said it for me.

Speaker: I'll leave it alone.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: I'll leave it alone.

Speaker: Be quiet.

Speaker: My bad, y'all.

Speaker: I gagged my own stuff right there.

Speaker: I couldn't even do that.

Speaker: That's crazy because before the breast implants, it really was given that.

Speaker: It does what it was given, but that's okay because everybody is allowed to grow.

Speaker: My thing is, we are in the age of internet.

Speaker: Miss Tiffany Stratton, you got to know what time.

Speaker: It's not an excuse.

Speaker: It's not an excuse, but all the time, you have to realize it's not TV time.

Speaker: We are in real time, and in real time, you cannot pay that.

Speaker: What am I good, Sis Garcelle?

Speaker: It never was tippy time.

Speaker: That it wasn't, it's not her responsibility to basically educate you.

Speaker: I'm not on tippy time.

Speaker: Never was.

Speaker: No, it's not anyone's responsibility to educate you on a system that you benefit from.

Speaker: Pick up a book, type something in Google search.

Speaker: You should know as a grown woman with the public platform against an international crowd that you cannot post that about a black woman.

Speaker: That should be common sense, though.

Speaker: But common sense ain't common.

Speaker: Common sense is not as common as we think it is.

Speaker: And her big age.

Speaker: What is she, 27 years old?

Speaker: 28?

Speaker: She's got to be like 23, 24, 25.

Speaker: Old enough.

Speaker: Making us look ignorant.

Speaker: Some of you is.

Speaker: And she's proving it.

Speaker: Yeah, at her 20-something-year-old age, you should know how you benefit, ma'am.

Speaker: Because you didn't get fired.

Speaker: Because, you see, Wesley had that.

Speaker: That's why he was gone.

Speaker: Not Wesley.

Speaker: Zachary Wentz Zachary Wentz sorry no that might he was not that color pause pause pause C.T.

Speaker: but Zachary Wentz still pause C.T.

Speaker: what we not going to do is you copying what I just said a little while ago still though I'm sorry I get a little passionate about these topics that's okay we love being passionate passionate plagiarism Lord have mercy

Speaker: Double P. Double P. Listen.

Speaker: Go ahead.

Speaker: All I want from Miss Tiffany Stratton.

Speaker: I know she didn't mean that from her heart.

Speaker: But what I want you to do is be smart.

Speaker: Be smart, be current, and know what is acceptable with the platform that you have.

Speaker: It's unacceptable.

Speaker: It's unacceptable.

Speaker: I think that there should be a reprimand with it.

Speaker: Now, what that reprimand looks like is not up to me.

Speaker: But with the streets of San Francisco backstage, nothing's really happening.

Speaker: I mean, you need to learn from it.

Speaker: This is your first big hiccup.

Speaker: I mean, the Usos and Roman Reigns have been getting caught up with failing drug tests and DUIs this whole time.

Speaker: I think that there is time for growth.

Speaker: And Ms.

Speaker: Stratton, I need to see you grow.

Speaker: She's 25 to beat, just so you guys know.

Speaker: She's 25.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: She's almost the same age as you, CT.

Speaker: And you're going to call that girl she look 40?

Speaker: She is my same age, and I done graduated college with a degree, and I know better.

Speaker: So you, Miss Tiffany Stratton, need to know better.

Speaker: now ct quiet because he don't know what to say because he can't copy one of us no that i'm not quiet because i was just trying to have to control myself calm down you know from the passion okay but um you know but like but but like terrell said the push should stop but will it stop i don't think it will though

Speaker: I think there is still time for her to, but I will say the apology needs to be as public as the disrespect.

Speaker: And I don't know why there hasn't been one yet.

Speaker: It should have been one.

Speaker: That lets me believe that there's not going to be one.

Speaker: There is.

Speaker: It should not take you this long.

Speaker: Because it's that simple to just be like, I did not realize the magnitude of the video until after it was presented to me.

Speaker: I am so sorry.

Speaker: I do not think that way about Jade or any other Black female.

Speaker: Something as simple as that.

Speaker: That's all she had to do, literally.

Speaker: And we would have forgave her.

Speaker: But she ain't said a goddamn thing.

Speaker: She just deleted the video like we wasn't going to see it.

Speaker: You can't expect someone like that to step outside of the lens of her white womanhood to take accountability and responsibility

Speaker: If Nia is her best friend right now, Nia should tell us something.

Speaker: I think Nia already have.

Speaker: But this could affect her bag.

Speaker: This could affect her money.

Speaker: Millimeter.

Speaker: They love money.

Speaker: So why are you not saying something?

Speaker: I don't get it.

Speaker: Tiffany is their prototype.

Speaker: And I think they've been away from their prototype for so long.

Speaker: They've only had Charlotte really to feel that.

Speaker: Charlotte never.

Speaker: Charlotte, my good queen Charlotte Flair would never.

Speaker: I beg on her a lot, but she would never.

Speaker: Charlotte would.

Speaker: Because she's cultured.

Speaker: Look at her husband.

Speaker: Look at her.

Speaker: She is.

Speaker: Very cultured.

Speaker: And we love that.

Speaker: Her daddy would have said it.

Speaker: Oh, most definitely.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Her daddy Polly said it.

Speaker: Y'all heard about Ric Flair?

Speaker: He says.

Speaker: That restaurant that he attended, talking about he wanted to sue him.

Speaker: Probably because he ain't got no money left.

Speaker: But the thing is, he said that he tipped the waitress very well.

Speaker: It was something that they had said they disrespected him or something because he's Ric Flair.

Speaker: So you're talking about he wanted to sue the entire restaurant and make it and name it after himself.

Speaker: Maybe 20, 30 years ago, if Ric Flair would have said that in a restaurant, someone would have known who Ric Flair was.

Speaker: But in 2024, people that are working in a restaurant are not just going to up and know who Ric Flair is.

Speaker: Yeah, he's never been Hulk Hogan.

Speaker: He's never been Hulk Hogan.

Speaker: Quiet as Kevin is racist as it is.

Speaker: He's been as racist as Hulk Hogan, but never as successful as Hulk Hogan.

Speaker: But you see Mr. Hulk Hogan apologize for his stuff.

Speaker: Even though I still don't like him like that.

Speaker: Let's talk about apologies.

Speaker: Let's talk about apologies.

Speaker: Because we're saying Tiffany should apologize.

Speaker: I agree Tiffany should apologize.

Speaker: But apology doesn't mean fucking nothing.

Speaker: When you really think about it, what are you apologizing for?

Speaker: Not to go off, completely off topic, but it's like Diddy's apology.

Speaker: You didn't apologize to the victim.

Speaker: You just apologized that we seen it.

Speaker: So when she apologizes, I just assume that her apology is going to be apologizing for what she posted, but not to Jade.

Speaker: And maybe she's apologized to Jade behind the scenes.

Speaker: What do we know?

Speaker: Very well could be a possibility.

Speaker: But you posted it.

Speaker: But you posted it, so we need an apology to the whole Black community.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Because a lot of Black people was rooting for her.

Speaker: They really was.

Speaker: Y'all was.

Speaker: I liked Tiffany.

Speaker: I seen it for her.

Speaker: But y'all was rooting for her when I said no.

Speaker: I was on the right side of history.

Speaker: No, she just switched sides.

Speaker: She just switched sides.

Speaker: She just switched to the wrong side.

Speaker: We was rooting for you.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: We were all rooting for you, Tiffany.

Speaker: And you let us down at 25 years old in 2024, the year of our Lord and Savior.

Speaker: You know what's crazy?

Speaker: She let us down the rest of five months.

Speaker: When he knew it.

Speaker: Is that a record?

Speaker: It's got to be a record.

Speaker: No, because what was that dude with that chin that came up from NXT?

Speaker: The chin?

Speaker: He was a big burly, I mean, uh-oh, big burly joker.

Speaker: He was white.

Speaker: He had a bald head.

Speaker: I'm trying to think who he's talking about.

Speaker: He had a chin.

Speaker: You couldn't miss it.

Speaker: Did he have bad skin?

Speaker: The skin was nasty.

Speaker: Oh, okay.

Speaker: What was his outfit?

Speaker: What does his outfit look like?

Speaker: Some... Were they red trunks?

Speaker: Some red speedos.

Speaker: Okay, I know who you're talking about.

Speaker: He had that... It was basically like a lifted... Not a chokeslam, but something similar to a chokeslam and a rock bottom.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, he had depression.

Speaker: He said some racist thing, had depression, and then they... He was exposed for being a porn star.

Speaker: Yeah, a gay porn star.

Speaker: I don't think he said racist stuff.

Speaker: I think he said stuff about gay people.

Speaker: And then they leaked the video.

Speaker: No, he said some racist stuff, too, because it had something to do with Nazis or something.

Speaker: Well, anyways, all I know is that... Oh, I know who you're talking about.

Speaker: He had a lot to say, and then they brought out the receipts of him.

Speaker: You know, fucking niggas and dudes, I should say.

Speaker: I know exactly who you're talking about.

Speaker: That was record time.

Speaker: Tiffy time lasted a little longer than that time.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Yeah, definitely.

Speaker: Because I was rooting for him, too.

Speaker: He was supposed to have a match with John Cena at WrestleMania and then all that stuff.

Speaker: He sure was.

Speaker: He sure was.

Speaker: I know exactly who you're talking about.

Speaker: Can I say his name?

Speaker: What's his name?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I want to say his name with like a G or something.

Speaker: What?

Speaker: What?

Speaker: Did you say Austin Harris?

Speaker: Yeah, that was his name.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Go ahead and log out for me, CT.

Speaker: I'm so sick.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: What?

Speaker: No.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: That was him.

Speaker: No, it was not.

Speaker: That man ain't been in WWE since he was a kid.

Speaker: When was the last out of Austin?

Speaker: He was in WWE, 2012?

Speaker: No, it was the dude that wore the glasses to the ring.

Speaker: He had the jacket.

Speaker: He was from NXT.

Speaker: And he was called up and he said some stuff.

Speaker: Wait, pause.

Speaker: We know who you're talking about.

Speaker: But that's not who we're talking about.

Speaker: Who is he talking about?

Speaker: I'm talking about the guy that got released.

Speaker: You're talking about Austin Aries.

Speaker: But we're not.

Speaker: We're not talking about Austin Aries.

Speaker: Who are y'all talking about?

Speaker: I was trying to fight him.

Speaker: Austin Aries is about as big as Johnny Gargano.

Speaker: You just saw me call this man big and burly and you're going to say something.

Speaker: I was saying Aries.

Speaker: Please be serious.

Speaker: In this moment, please.

Speaker: What's that man's name?

Speaker: He was there with... I know exactly who you're talking about.

Speaker: He looked like his breath stain.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Lawrence Sullivan.

Speaker: That's him.

Speaker: Lawrence Sullivan.

Speaker: That one.

Speaker: Yeah, because he was messing with boys.

Speaker: I remember.

Speaker: Yeah, him too.

Speaker: Wait, so we paused.

Speaker: After we said this whole gay stuff, you still thought Austin Aries?

Speaker: CT said the whole locker room is that, so that wasn't enough for him.

Speaker: I did not.

Speaker: She was terrible.

Speaker: I wonder who it was that showed Seth Walters what Grindr was.

Speaker: Why Google WWE wrestler gay past?

Speaker: I am so sorry against the Rose podcast for saying Austin Aries.

Speaker: I said the wrong person.

Speaker: I will say Austin Aries did say some stuff.

Speaker: I don't think that it was racist, but it was very anti-Semitic.

Speaker: Inflammatory.

Speaker: Yeah, it was very... It was Semitic, but no, he was not messing with my voice.

Speaker: Hold on, hold on.

Speaker: There you go.

Speaker: Anti-Semitic, there you go, babe.

Speaker: Anti-Semitic, yes.

Speaker: Yeah, so he doesn't wrestle really anywhere.

Speaker: I think he just now made an appearance somewhere recently.

Speaker: It's so bad TNA didn't even have them back.

Speaker: You know how bad you gotta be for TNA tonight?

Speaker: Like, it's only one other person that they won't have back.

Speaker: What's that girl's name with the back?

Speaker: Are you talking about the one that we used to date, Ricochet?

Speaker: She used to date Ricochet.

Speaker: Who are you talking about then?

Speaker: I thought you were talking about Blanchard.

Speaker: Yeah, her.

Speaker: She used to date Ricochet?

Speaker: Yeah, they were engaged in something.

Speaker: Ricochet.

Speaker: Baby, I'm happy you upgraded.

Speaker: twice twice twice because I know Casey twice twice twice shout out to Samantha

Speaker: Austin Aries.

Speaker: We literally CT.

Speaker: Where you get Austin Aries from is what I want to know.

Speaker: Sorry, man.

Speaker: I said bad skin.

Speaker: And you said, you big dude.

Speaker: I said, oh yeah, he had this move like this.

Speaker: I said, what did he wear?

Speaker: You said red trunks.

Speaker: I said, okay, I know exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker: Lars Sullivan.

Speaker: I remember not because I used to get that because he had a push.

Speaker: You didn't remember.

Speaker: I reminded you.

Speaker: In my CTP series, I used to give him a big push.

Speaker: he was my intercontinental champion for a little while but um those things came out and I had to release them he's probably still on the game anyway next he got him downloaded yeah he forgot to delete the character it's okay CT you don't have to front for the camera it's only one person watching on Twitch you okay hey shout out to that one person that's watching on Twitch though it's me it's me I'm the one person laughing

Speaker: I was going to say, it's probably Donnie just watching the chat, but you know.

Speaker: I cannot.

Speaker: Y'all are funny.

Speaker: Y'all are funny.

Speaker: I'm going to be, once again, I'm going to be the highlight clip at the end of the week.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: This time you did it to yourself.

Speaker: I did.

Speaker: This one was on me, okay?

Speaker: And I apologize for what I'm saying.

Speaker: I was so serious.

Speaker: Jesus Christ.

Speaker: Because also you're easy.

Speaker: If he ever watches this, it's my bad, bro.

Speaker: The crazy thing is Donnie literally described him.

Speaker: And he's completely the opposite of Austin Aries.

Speaker: So that's why I'm confused.

Speaker: He said bald.

Speaker: Austin Aries' hair might be receding, but he is not bald.

Speaker: He still has a little bit of hair.

Speaker: In the back of his neck.

Speaker: And he was talking about his teeth, too.

Speaker: That should have gave it away.

Speaker: God damn it.

Speaker: You got anything else for this week?

Speaker: Yeah, what else for this week?

Speaker: Is there anything else?

Speaker: I don't like this.

Speaker: CT, I just, I'm so tired.

Speaker: Well, I will, crap, I don't have the other phone on me.

Speaker: I was going to shout out the people that made our logo and the video, but I don't have the phone on.

Speaker: I'm recording on the phone, so I can't look at their Instagrams.

Speaker: You can do that magically in post.

Speaker: I'm not doing that.

Speaker: Right there.

Speaker: What we can do, we can shout them out in our descriptions when we post them.

Speaker: Or he can just put a black screen on there, put their social medias and say thank you.

Speaker: Actually, wait, hold on.

Speaker: I probably could tell you right now what they are.

Speaker: Hold on, please hold.

Speaker: So, the person that made our logo is Black Mass Design.

Speaker: Shout out to him.

Speaker: The culture.

Speaker: Any logos or any graphic designs.

Speaker: He made our logo and the graphic designs.

Speaker: Shout out to him.

Speaker: He is freaking amazing.

Speaker: Black?

Speaker: He is not black.

Speaker: But when Tiffany made that comment, I reached out to him and told him, being that we are a Black podcast and we needed to rectify it.

Speaker: It does not look right, us promoting our videos with Tiffany Stratton being at the top of it after her comment.

Speaker: So I just reached out to him and I was like, we need to replace it with somebody.

Speaker: And he did it within minutes and we replaced her with Liv Morgan.

Speaker: Because we love her.

Speaker: We love Liv.

Speaker: We love Liv.

Speaker: Liv will always have a spot in my table.

Speaker: Liv is always going to live.

Speaker: Yeah, because one of my YouTube subs said, you better not talk about that Tiffany chick on your stuff anymore.

Speaker: I'm like, who said this?

Speaker: Who said this?

Speaker: Because I'm going to talk about it.

Speaker: What's their app?

Speaker: What's their app?

Speaker: It was one of my subscribers on Instagram.

Speaker: I bet you don't send this to him.

Speaker: I bet you don't send this to him.

Speaker: What's their app?

Speaker: His app is Low Tommy.

Speaker: You can go look him up.

Speaker: His name is Logan.

Speaker: His account is private though.

Speaker: Logan, let me tell you something.

Speaker: I really, really, really hate this for you.

Speaker: But your good sis Tiffany Stranley ain't no good as of right now.

Speaker: And I'm so sorry that you stand trash as such.

Speaker: I'll call him out.

Speaker: That's what Logan told me in my DM.

Speaker: I better not talk about him.

Speaker: Well, you know what, Logan?

Speaker: If you stay in the trash, you start to stink.

Speaker: All I'm going to say is anybody that has had anything positive to say about Tiffany or say anything crazy, you know, it's giving racist.

Speaker: It's giving very much so...

Speaker: And we don't like that for you.

Speaker: And this is a black man that was defending her, by the way.

Speaker: It would be a black man defending a white woman.

Speaker: He really said, swerve, hold my bottle.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Him and Booker T.

Speaker: Yep.

Speaker: So what I will say, though, is that Kuhn is the word of the day.

Speaker: So if you're watching this.

Speaker: And you hear Kuhn, please take a sip of what you have.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And the other person is Justy Vibes, who created the intro video.

Speaker: Justy.

Speaker: Did a phenomenal job.

Speaker: He did.

Speaker: Phenomenal.

Speaker: He ate that up.

Speaker: AJ could never.

Speaker: Never.

Speaker: Let me give a shout out to Terrell, though.

Speaker: Terrell has been finding these good people and getting things together for the podcast.

Speaker: I try.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: He's been cooking.

Speaker: Shout out to C... I don't know what I almost called you.

Speaker: Shout out to Serena.

Speaker: I know why you was about to call me CT because he always plagiarizes me.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It almost happened in reverse that time.

Speaker: I am not taking credit for the editing that he does on this podcast because I have to edit all my stuff and it's already a pain in the neck.

Speaker: That's why I hire editors myself.

Speaker: So I commend him.

Speaker: I'm not taking credit for that.

Speaker: Absolutely not.

Speaker: Well, thank you.

Speaker: Thank you very much.

Speaker: And I appreciate it, y'all.

Speaker: So, I really think that we don't have anything else.

Speaker: Please follow us on our Instagram.

Speaker: I'm sorry.

Speaker: Our Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.

Speaker: It's all the same.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: It is against the, and the is spelled TH3, ropes.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker: Shout out to the 119 followers we have on X or Twitter at this moment.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And once we get to 1,000, I want to do a giveaway of like $50 and a free T-shirt.

Speaker: Ooh, of a surprise.

Speaker: Because...

Speaker: Torello has been working on the surprise for the children.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: So we just need to get more followers.

Speaker: We need to put ourselves out there.

Speaker: Live tweet, new stuff.

Speaker: You did a great job this past Friday, CT with live tweeting.

Speaker: I'm sorry, Donnie.

Speaker: That was me, by the way.

Speaker: You've been recording when you're supposed to be live tweeting.

Speaker: I did live tweet a little in the beginning, and then we got on.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But that's okay, because there are some live tweets out there on Raw, so catch up on those.

Speaker: Absolutely.

Speaker: Terrell, are you going to be live tweeting for the pay-per-view so that you can watch them at the same time?

Speaker: I can.

Speaker: See, I hate live tweeting.

Speaker: I suggested it, but I be so into it that I don't like to live tweet.

Speaker: But I'm going to.

Speaker: I was going to say, so are we doing away with live tweeting?

Speaker: No, no, no.

Speaker: We definitely need to do it.

Speaker: Even if it's not live, just still tweet.

Speaker: You know what I'm saying?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Respond back to other people.

Speaker: Yeah, good day, because they be commenting, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker: But, um... Y'all have been absolutely incredible.

Speaker: Shout out to everybody that follow us.

Speaker: Listen to the podcast every week.

Speaker: It's been a blast, these last... What episode number we on?

Speaker: Nine?

Speaker: Nine.

Speaker: Five?

Speaker: The reason why is because we probably did about nine.

Speaker: However, there's technical difficulties.

Speaker: Donnie.

Speaker: First of all, not Donnie because if CT would have been on time, there wouldn't have been those technical difficulties.

Speaker: I wasn't able to post them.

Speaker: CT was an hour late that one time.

Speaker: He was an hour late today.

Speaker: He wasn't.

Speaker: Actually, and thank God my internet held up.

Speaker: Well, we ain't had no rain today.

Speaker: Thank God my internet held up.

Speaker: You wasn't an hour late last week, were you?

Speaker: No, I was not.

Speaker: I was on time last week.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: No, you weren't.

Speaker: You weren't on time.

Speaker: I was five minutes late according to these two.

Speaker: Six minutes late according to these two.

Speaker: It's not according to these two.

Speaker: It's just what it was.

Speaker: It's according to the clock.

Speaker: The clock said I was six minutes late.

Speaker: The running gag, guys, if y'all don't know, is I'm always the last one to get on here.

Speaker: I'm the late one.

Speaker: And it makes absolutely no sense.

Speaker: No, actually the latest person on the podcast is Rob since he still never showed up.

Speaker: Oh, shout out to Rob.

Speaker: Yeah, shout out to Rob.

Speaker: We love to talk to Rob about wrestling.

Speaker: No, we love Rob.

Speaker: We love Rob.

Speaker: Rob is missing like Ricky Starks is missing.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I don't know what's going to happen first.

Speaker: Ricky Starks is going to be back on TV or Rob going to join the podcast.

Speaker: What's going to happen first, y'all?

Speaker: What y'all think?

Speaker: Ricky gonna be back on TV first.

Speaker: Undertaker gonna come out of retirement.

Speaker: Undertaker coming out of retirement is crazy.

Speaker: Undertaker coming out of retirement.

Speaker: Oh my god.

Speaker: That is so funny.

Speaker: But that's okay because we're sitting on my boardwalk.

Speaker: We just love communication.

Speaker: I'm glad that you guys are good communicators.

Speaker: So, do we know what the matches are?

Speaker: Oh, we really don't know what the matches are.

Speaker: The full matches are yet for... For AEW?

Speaker: No, for SmackDown.

Speaker: Or AEW.

Speaker: I mean, I'm sorry, for King of the Ring.

Speaker: But I know Lara Valkyria beat... EO tonight.

Speaker: Yes, I just seen that.

Speaker: That's all I know.

Speaker: It was a good match.

Speaker: I will say it was a good match.

Speaker: Oh, you watched it?

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Well, yes, but no.

Speaker: Not live.

Speaker: How'd you watch it then?

Speaker: On Twitter.

Speaker: When you were waiting for us?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Oh.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Anyways, thank you guys so much for joining our podcast.

Speaker: I even tweeted it from the page.

Speaker: Oh, well, I'm proud of you.

Speaker: We will see you guys next week.

Speaker: We love you guys.

Speaker: And thank you for tuning in.

Speaker: Be phenomenal.

Speaker: Be forgotten.

Speaker: together forever.

Speaker: Phenomenal being forgotten.

Speaker: I like that.

Speaker: Bye, y'all.

Speaker: That's my... Against the Ropes Wrestling Podcast.

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