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Episode 389: Mailbag for Week 11

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This is the mailbag episode for Week 11 of the MLS season. We mostly focus on how the Sounders will handle the situation at left back, but also get into potential plans for the summer transfer window and discuss the possible return of YachtCon.

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Episode Introduction

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This episode of Nos Arietes is sponsored by Full Pull Wines, a Seattle-based wine retailer and proud sponsor of Nos Arietes since 2011. Full Pull was founded in 2009, is based in Seattle, and is owned and operated by longtime sounder supporters. They offer the best boutique wines of the world to members of their mailing list, with special focus on their home, the Pacific Northwest.
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Q&A Episode Introduction

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Welcome back to another episode of NOS Adietta, sponsored by Fullpool Wines, Watson's Counter, and our sub-stack subscribers. This is the question and answer episode for week 11 of the MLS season. I am Jeremiah Shan, and joining me today is Aaron Campo and our engineer, Lickett.
00:01:42
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Well, Aaron, you want to just jump right into this and get going? Yeah, let's do it. So our first question, actually three questions.

Seattle Sounders Left Back Concerns

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I'm going to kind of lump them all together because they're all similarly related.
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Want to shout out the folks asking Derek young who asks via our sub stack comments Which that's a new way we're accepting questions from here on out so shout out to Derek for for that and feel free to Look out for for you know for that call for questions in the in the in the newsletter but also bill Jones TRPT and Lindsay 21
00:02:36
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What's going on with left back? So Derek says, I'm glad to hear that wasn't a career under for a row. So we knew who was still out. Have we seen Reed Baker White on the left side before? Bill also asked the same question about RBW. Lindsay asked, is a 10 CO an option for left back?
00:02:53
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A lot of people want to know, Jeremiah, what's going on at Leftback? Yeah, I would say that this was an area of potential concern basically from the moment training camp opened. If you remember way back at the early stages of training camp, there was a guy named Tate Schmidt that they actually had in camp.
00:03:13
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And it looked like he might make the roster based solely on the fact that he was the only other left back in camp other than new who. And I guess they ultimately decided that Kellen Rowe was a better backup than Tate Schmidt and
00:03:29
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You know, Schmidt has actually done pretty good for the Houston Dynamo. Beth neither here nor there. The point being, they don't have a lot of depth at left back. We've seen Alex Roldon got one start there sort of as an emergency player that was in the LA Galaxy match. He didn't necessarily look great.
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But yeah, we saw Cody Baker also start there in the Open Cup game. And it does look like, and Brian Schmetzer said that if New Who can't go, that Reed Baker Whiting is an option there. He played right back in the Open Cup game. I don't think we've ever seen him at left back if you have.
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It was maybe for the defiance and I don't remember how that went, but they seem to be pretty confident in his ability to handle the position.
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Schmetzer actually called him ambidextrous. I don't know if I can't really attest to how good he is with his left foot, but they seem to be pretty good. I think he's pretty good with his left foot. I think that goal he scored suggested he's pretty good with his left foot. Yeah, exactly. No, I don't think the left foot is so much the issue. It's more, you know, there's some body positioning issues when you're switching from being a right back to a left back, you end up
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you know defending a lot in space and and so it's you know how you how you kind of direct the your the opposing players and and those kind of things how you open up your hips do all these kind of things that are a little bit more technical that i think might be a little bit more of a concern and i will say this is probably not the ideal game to be missing your left back

Backup Left Back Solutions

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Uh, Johnny Russell is the guy who's probably going to be attacking from that side. He hasn't necessarily looked great this year, but he's still Johnny Russell and God, he just totally tears apart the sounders. So, uh, it would be unfortunate if
00:05:25
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if they have to use a backup left back. But then beyond Reed, there's a possibility they could use Alex there. I've seen it floated. Maybe Javier Arriaga could play there. That was not pointedly mentioned as an option by Brian Spencer. Lindsey brings up the idea of playing Josh Atencio there. That wasn't mentioned. I don't think that's particularly likely. I suppose
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You could move to a three-back system, a three-center back system.
00:05:59
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that Dussel does not seem to be in the cards. In fact, that was another one that Schmetzer sort of rejected, not necessarily out of hand, but at least at this point, he's not ready to sort of scrap everything that's been working so well in the 4-2-3-1 and doesn't, you know, and I can't really blame him at this point. Like why should one, you know, I would have to think on some level they were prepared for this possibility that they might be missing their top two left backs, right?
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You have to at least contingency plan for it. It's something that you can't just let to sale. That's not going to happen. We should be fine. You never know. It's going to be interesting to see. I think that the best case scenario is you put one of the kids in there and they knock it out of the park.
00:06:53
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You're saying you're totally set. You don't, Colin Rowe doesn't have to rush himself back from injury. You've got, you've got a second option there. Maybe it's somebody who plays a little differently than new who, so you can even mix things up or take different tactical approaches. That's the best case scenario. Um, worst case scenario is all of the stuff that, you know, we just said is probably not going to happen ends up happening because you got to find a better solution. So.
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Yeah. And I should say the other option that I kind of glanced over is Cody Baker. They could, they could potentially sign. I'm told that they do have the ability to sign him to a short-term contract. So they, if they just needed him for this game and maybe like one or two others, they do have that ability to sign him as sort of a bridge. And he did, you know, I really thought he looked good against San Diego loyal. Now, again,
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going against Johnny Russell going to be a little different than going to against whoever San Diego had out there. But I guess they have some options and I'm honestly kind of excited to see what those options look like. You know, I know they say soccer is a weak link sport, meaning that oftentimes it's, you know, you're only as good as your worst player because you can sort of like find ways to
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exploit one bad player on a field as big as a soccer field. But I don't know. I'm inclined to think this is a decent time to just see what these kids have.

Nuhoo's Health Challenges

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All that said, I'm really hopeful New Who is going to be back hopefully at training tomorrow. And then if he's back at training tomorrow, you've got to like his chances to actually be able to start.
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That said, Aaron, you want to take any wild guesses as to what you think might be going on with new? I have absolutely zero insight into this one. No, I mean, it's it's weird. Whatever it is, it's not good. I feel I feel bad for the guy because it's been going on for a while. It doesn't sound like whatever it is, it's pleasant. No, you know, it's it's I hope I hope he feels better. I hope it's not anything too serious.
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Yeah, I know that he, you know, he stopped eating teriyaki and started eating salad. So maybe, yeah, maybe it's withdrawals teriyaki withdrawals. Yeah, I shouldn't be, we shouldn't be joking about it, I guess, but I'm serious. But the fact that Schmetzer was at least cautiously optimistic about getting new who back this week, at least tells me that it's not.
00:09:32
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Anything too, too bad, right? When did he get sick? He missed the Minnesota game. That was about 10 days ago. I have gotten the flu. Now, obviously, I'm not a professional athlete in the prime of my life and career.
00:09:55
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And it was even worse at the point that I did get the flu. But I mean, I was not anything close to normal for like six weeks after I got the flu the last time that I had it.
00:10:08
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Um, so, you know, who knows? I mean, who, who knows what it could be. Um, but I hope, I hope he's, I hope he's better soon. It sucks to not feel good, you know, it sucks to be sick. It does. It really does. So yeah, I should say that question came from, uh, BP Raisin on Twitter. Uh, I should, I should have given credit to that question, but yeah, that was, yeah.

Transfer Window Priorities

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All right, let's see. This one is from Diamond Hand King. Will we get at least one full back in the transfer window?
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If things go poorly over the next month, probably, I would guess that would be a priority. I mean, I would guess they would at least try to make that happen. I'm hopeful that they're going to be able to find a way to make that not a huge concern, that one of the things they try out here over the next few games is going to work out. Because ultimately, Kellan is going to be out for a while, right? Even if he's back before...
00:11:22
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the secondary transfer window opens, which is what, July? Something like that, yeah. Even if he's back, I think that if you don't have another plan B, a plan C, I guess, would be the next letter in the alphabet. Having to go through this is probably going to be enough to maybe make that at least something of a priority, even if it's just getting a veteran, fringy guy to bring in a body to bring in that can play that position.
00:11:51
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But, you know, if Reed Baker Whiting plays out of his mind or even just plays reasonably well, he doesn't have to play out of his mind. He just has to play competently at left back. That's not really probably something you need to expend resources on in the transfer window. So I'm hopeful that they won't. But if they need one, I would guess that they will target one.
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Well, what would your idea like if you are to draw up a ideal transfer window and you can pick one player. You know what or yeah or one position one position. Yeah. What do you what do you want to see the sounders bring in?
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Yeah, I mean, it's a tough question because I feel so good. Now, obviously, right now, I don't feel great about the left-back depth. So assuming things stay the same, right? Like, we don't find this miraculous solution. I think finding somebody who can play left-back and ideally center-back, like someone that can play both of those positions, the center-back depth is pretty good. But it seems like a shame to have just another roster spot
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taken up by a guy that can play left back or the alternative is a left back who can also play as more of an attacking player. Yeah. Like a like a Jovan Jones type of player, not Jovan Jones, but Jovan Jones type of player. And Jovan Jones is available. I'm sure he is. That, you know, that that can give you like a different option, I think would be would be a good target. But assuming they can find somebody that, you know, is pretty
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is as competent as left back depth, I would feel okay with not doing anything. I think this is a good position to be in going into a transfer window is feeling like you have some options. I'm not convinced that left back is going to feel like their biggest need. And I hope what they do is they
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just make an interesting signing. Like they don't have, they don't have any U 22 spots to, to fill. So that's, you know, you can kind of put that out, but you know, if, if they can, if they can make a, a Tam signing, like I would, I would not want to see that spent on a, on a left back, I guess they, you know, if they could bring in like an interesting attacking piece, that would be, you know, I don't know. Like always nice to bolster your attack if you can.
00:14:22
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Yeah, if they could bring in a winger who can play on both sides at a tan level who is going to be OK with not starting, that'd obviously be a boon. But I do think that they're in a position, assuming they keep playing well and assuming they get left backed up to figure it out in-house, where maybe the thing to do is to not use up any resources.
00:14:48
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Right. See how Raul comes along, see if he recovers. If not, you might need to sign a DP next year. You might need to, you might have to buy them out. And so you want to have as much flexibility as you can. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'd say that's Raul. Yeah. That's actually a good observation. I think Raul Rui Diaz's health probably is a bigger factor in what they do then, then what happens at left back.
00:15:12
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And from from my perspective, maybe paradoxically, maybe this doesn't make any sense. But if Raul is struggling, that makes me even less inclined to sign a striker or an attacking player, because I think what you want to do ideally is wait until you can replace him with another GP. Whereas if he's playing well and seems healthy and seems like you're definitely going to want to bring him back next year and not use the buyout.
00:15:40
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you can probably feel a little more comfortable bringing in another attacking piece and not being able to use those resources rather than keeping them in hand. All right, next one is from Joe, just Joe. Another newsletter question, so thank you, Joe. Which of the Defiance players have the most potential to break into the first team or at least keep playing in a deep open cup run?

Rising Defiance Players

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Let's see. So of the Defiance players, so the Defiance players that played in the Open Cup were Cody Baker, Paul Rothrock, Hal Uteritz, and Trevion Sousa.
00:16:24
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I think all four of them will probably continue to feature in the Open Cup as long as they are alive. Now, which one of those are the most likely to break into the first team? I think the smart money there is probably on either Rothrock or Baker. And of those two, I think Baker is probably the one who has the clearest
00:16:52
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path to getting into the first team and maybe even playing some first team minutes. And we talked about him a little bit, but let's talk a little bit more about Paul Rothrock, who is a name you might remember. He is a Seattle kid. He played for the Sounders Academy. He was actually pretty good in the Academy. He went to college. He played at Notre Dame and Georgetown. I think he ended up actually winning a national title at Georgetown.
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The Sounders elected not to sign him though out of college He got drafted by Toronto FC ended up playing a couple seasons for Toronto FC to actually had a really good year last year at Toronto FC to just didn't really see a path to the first team there came back to Seattle and I don't know how
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high the expectations were. But he has, I think, opened a lot of eyes in terms of his ability to be an attack, you know, a decent attacking wide node fielder. And with, you know, the possibility of maybe converted into a fullback, I don't know that he's going to be a left back. But there's some interesting, interesting things there. I think he could potentially fill that Christian role, Don, right mid role in a pinch.
00:18:09
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Um, I actually really like how uterus to, uh, not necessarily to be on the first team this year, but I could see him, you know, getting a first team contract next year. Uh, Trevion Sousa.
00:18:24
Speaker
You know, I haven't seen quite as much from him that makes me think he is a first team talent. He's got some ability. He actually, he got some decent chances actually in the Open Cup, in the overtime period, I think. He also drew the penalty that ended up leading to the win. So, you know, there's some interesting pieces there. Some players who didn't get into that game, who I understand were
00:18:53
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they, the centers had wanted to bring them into the defiance raw or into the first scene roster for the open cup were, uh, either Bjorgensen, who is a forward from, uh, Norway, and he's a big body, someone who has looked pretty good for defiance. Uh, and then, um,
00:19:14
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Georgie, I'm going to butcher his last name, so I'm not even going to bother saying it, but he's an Ivorian player. Both of them are internationals and they had some kind of visa issues basically getting into the open cup. The process took longer than I think was entirely anticipated. So some, you know, there's six players right there to keep an eye on. But if you, the one that I think is most likely to get into the first team, probably Cody Baker.
00:19:43
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So anyway, long answer. A good one though. I mean, I, you, you definitely know the defines better than I do. So, you know, I learned, I learned some things. All right. Well, this one's from Jerome McCaskill, another one from our, uh, sub stack, a newsletter with all the injuries

Integrating Younger Players

00:20:02
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stacking up. Is it time for Schmetz to go with some of the youngsters with sporting Kansas city in a tough place? Does it make sense to give them a shot? So.
00:20:12
Speaker
I think that, from my perspective, Schmetz has been doing a pretty decent job of integrating some of the younger players this year. Reed Baker Whiting has not played as much as
00:20:25
Speaker
I don't want to say as I would have liked, but I wouldn't be sad to see more of him over the coming. I've wanted to see more of him in the past, so hopefully he'll have the opportunity to do that. But I think this year of all of the years since Schmetzer has been the coach, and especially since the Sounders have had
00:20:49
Speaker
the the horses right like the the players to actually push for playing time coming up to the academy um i think that he's been more prone to doing it this year to give some some of the younger guys playing time so um i think there's nothing about the way he's approached the season so far that makes me think that he is not going to give those guys playing time especially with the fixture congestion and especially with the open cup
00:21:17
Speaker
Um, so yeah, I mean, I think it's definitely time to use your depth and, and sporting KC as a team against a, that you kind of don't have a choice to, to use your, whether or not to use your depth and be a team. You maybe feel a little more comfortable to integrate some of those guys into the team, but I don't think that.
00:21:34
Speaker
you're going to see like an open cup type team, right? Like an open cup minus the appliance guys type team at any point. Like I think that the best way to integrate those guys into the team is start your best eight and then, you know, a couple of players maybe and put players in a position to succeed. Um,
00:21:54
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rather than just kind of throwing out the kids to the wolves. So yeah, I think we're definitely going to see some of those guys. I think it's time to do it. I'm excited to see it. And I do think that Sporting KC is a team that you can feel okay doing it against, but in a weird way, that's like a must win game. Whereas Houston is not necessarily like
00:22:13
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You don't want to lose any game, but if you do lose a game, I think you'd be much a lot easier to stomach a loss to Houston than it was at Houston. Exactly. And, you know, another player who I didn't necessarily mention as a as a right another possible player who could play right mid is is Reed Baker Whiting, who he's been training pretty exclusively at at right back. And I suppose Ethan Dobler also could potentially play right mid
00:22:41
Speaker
I don't love those options as much, but there is some flexibility that the sounders have. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we see the sounders get creative over this next month with some of these solutions.
00:22:59
Speaker
All right. And the next one, we already answered that one. The next one is from tie fighter 17 Jordan up top with chew on the left this weekend, Jordan on the left. Uh, and then he's got the little alligator, uh, over Jordan on the right. I am. Oh, and I agree.
00:23:14
Speaker
Yeah, so that actually dovetails nicely with what I was just alluding to. I wouldn't mind seeing Jordan up top with Chew on the left, but that does leave a rather glaring... Well, it leaves a big question as to who's your right mid. Now, if Christian was available, easy solution. I think at this point,
00:23:44
Speaker
Given the fitness of Christian Roldan, I think I would rather see Jordan up top, Chiu on the left, and Christian on the right than Abare up top and Morris on the left, and Roldan on the right, for instance. That's not an option. There's not really a whole lot of point in getting into that right now.
00:24:05
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But yeah, I mean, I think so the really the question at this point, I think becomes, would you rather see a bear up top with Jordan on the right or just see Jordan up top with someone else on the right? And I think that the choices are probably between Ethan Baker Whiting and I don't know who else, frankly, because I guess you could try Obed Vargas there. I don't love that option.
00:24:34
Speaker
I guess you can't play Danny Leyva there.
00:24:37
Speaker
can't play Danny Leyva there. He of course has been loaned to the rapids in case, in case you missed that one. Um, what, so do you see any world in which Baker Whiting plays there? Did you just say that? And I, yeah, I think there's a world where that happens. Uh, I think is, is he, is he a better option with Morris as the forward? Maybe I don't think that's out of the question. I think that's, that's possible. Um,
00:25:05
Speaker
I guess it really depends on whether or not you think a bear is a better a better matchup for Kansas City then. Then I mean, I don't know. I there's got to be some temptation to play Morris up top against the team he scored four goals against. Yeah. Yeah, you would think so. And and Leo Chiu completely lift them up as well. Yeah. So why not try to read this guy? Like, I don't think that's a crazy suggestion at all. I don't I don't know what they're going to do, but
00:25:34
Speaker
I think that would be an interesting, it would be also, and I know Schmetzer has also said that he isn't convinced that Baker Whiting is a fullback at this point. Like he really likes him farther up the pitch. Yeah. And isn't that more the national team where he's, he's being moved back online?
00:25:50
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, he has been training pretty exclusively at right back with the Sounders this year, but that's a, that's a change this year. Like he had been playing more as a, as a outside mid and, and honestly, the way the Sounders use that right mid spot, maybe suits Baker Whiting's game a little bit better. Cause he doesn't, he can kind of drop into the middle of the park.
00:26:15
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a little bit more effectively, he's good in possession. So I don't know, it's an interesting option. Yeah. I'm not against it. I mean, obviously, if the more critical area is left back, and so if the solution for what you're doing at left back involves him either playing left back or playing right back and Alex sliding over the left back, you know, he's not going to be able to play two positions, I suppose, but
00:26:42
Speaker
I would, I would like, that's kind of what I'm rooting for is him playing on the right. Yeah, that's a reasonable thing at the very least. I think it's an option. The sounder should look at, uh, later in the game. Uh, all right. So this is where we're going to close out with. This is from OG Dutch boy on Twitter.

Potential Return of Yacht-Con

00:26:59
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He says, what do you think is more possible? The sounder is winning the supporter shield or a yacht con return.
00:27:05
Speaker
Well, I think that's up to y'all, right? I mean, um, I think I would love to do it. I would love to see everybody again. Um, it's been, gosh, it's been a while. It's been, it was 2020 last time. 2020 last time we did it in person. We did the virtual one obviously. And that was a lot of fun, but, uh, I, I mean, I think we'd love,
00:27:24
Speaker
A lot different. I'm only speaking for myself, but I would love to do it. But I think it only makes sense to do if there's demand for people to do it. There did not seem to be a ton of demand the last time around, but I think that there were some extenuating circumstances there. I think that we are closer to...
00:27:45
Speaker
normal, um, and sort of back to how things are going to be. Then we were at that point. Um, so, you know, maybe there is the demand again. I hope so. Uh, let us know if there is. Um, cause I do think we want Yacht-Con to be back. Hit us up, but make us do it. Yeah. It's, I mean, ultimately,
00:28:07
Speaker
We have to do it in a way where we can make the numbers work for ourselves and also for our charity partners. That's the most important thing. And if we can do that, I think everybody would love to do it. So yeah, if you want it to happen, let us know.
00:28:26
Speaker
And I'll say I would love to do it again. And I fully intend at some point, one way or the other. I don't think we've seen the last Yacht-Con. And so that's a little bit... I guess we're not really answering this question.
00:28:42
Speaker
Cause I don't know, sounders, I think the sounders could potentially win support or shield, but I wanted to talk about potentially doing yacht con and it would, you know, my, my hope is that we start doing live events one way or another. Maybe they're not full blown yacht cons, but that would be fun. I would like to do yacht con again. And like I said, if you want to, if you want yacht con to come back, let us know. Uh, I know there's people out there that want to do it. We've had a lot of fun.
00:29:13
Speaker
We're open to fun. We also need to find a venue that will work. We had a venue this last year. They were the Elks Lodge in Fremont, I guess. Are we calling that Fremont? I don't know if they're going with Fremont. But they volunteered to let us use their space very graciously. So it wasn't the venue's fault that we didn't do it.
00:29:40
Speaker
you know, we're always looking I think I would love to find a venue that's maybe a little bit bigger. And but you know, that one might work too. So I don't know, whatever. But yeah, if you people want to do this thing, reach out. I think we can probably figure something out. Yeah.
00:29:58
Speaker
I definitely I think the gist is we will do it again when we do it. The urgency we have about doing it is kind of dependent on the response. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And yeah, I hope it's a good response because I would love to do it again. The the last one I was you know, I had just finished chemo. I was still pretty pretty beat up and you know, didn't really get to enjoy it as much as I'd like. So
00:30:28
Speaker
Yeah, it'd be cool to do another one, but it's a lot of work. It is a lot of work. You know, one other thing I should plug in addition to our substack, which is nosadietes.substack.com. We also have added some new merch to our threadless store. I think that's nosadietes.threadless.com.
00:30:53
Speaker
And there's some cool stuff that Licket designed. We did a kind of a thing that's sort of, I guess it's, it's modeled on the St. Pauli skull and crossbones thing. I liked it. I thought it looked really cool. We have shirts and sweaters and all kinds of stuff. So we've definitely talked about doing some more of that stuff too. So.
00:31:14
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But again, if that's one of those things, if people want it, we will make it. But if people aren't really into it, we don't need to force things like that. No, but if you're, if you love us, you will buy it. Right. Exactly. And we will buy multiple versions of it. Right. Exactly. Exactly.
00:31:33
Speaker
All right, well, all that plugging out of the way, we should probably call the show. We have another, we'll have another episode later in the week. As the cadence has become, we are trying to do at least three shows a week. We will probably bring an interview show back pretty soon. I don't know when exactly, but we're lining up an interview I think you guys will like.
00:32:00
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Uh, but for now, I am Jeremiah Shan, uh, signing off for our sponsors, full pool wines, Watson's counter, and our sub sex subscribers. This is, oh, and, uh, and Aaron Campo and, and Lickett. Uh, this is no sorry at this and we will catch you next time.
00:32:52
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We love you. Let's win another one!