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Episode 40: Diagnosed at 10 Months: Eli’s Type 1 Diabetes Story image

Episode 40: Diagnosed at 10 Months: Eli’s Type 1 Diabetes Story

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In this episode of The Type 1 Club, Jacqui speaks with Hannah, a fellow Type 1 mum whose son Eli was diagnosed at just 10 months old.

Hannah shares the early signs they missed, the terrifying moment that led to calling an ambulance and Eli’s time in intensive care with severe diabetic ketoacidosis. What began as months of an unsettled baby quickly turned into a life-changing diagnosis just days before Christmas.

Together, Jacqui and Hannah talk about navigating life with a very young child with type 1 diabetes – from learning injections and managing unpredictable blood sugars to the relief of moving onto insulin pump therapy with diluted insulin.

They also discuss:

  • The challenges of managing diabetes in babies and toddlers
  • Food aversions and the realities of dosing insulin for little eaters
  • Sibling dynamics when one child needs extra care
  • The role of technology
  • How the type 1 community often becomes an invaluable source of support and practical advice
  • Preparing a child with type 1 diabetes for kinder and school

Hannah also shares her perspective on protecting children from the emotional weight of diabetes for as long as possible while still helping them grow into confident young people living with the condition.

A thoughtful and honest conversation about parenting, advocacy and finding your people in the “worst best club.”

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Introduction & Disclaimer

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The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Reliance on any information provided by this podcast is solely at your own risk.
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Welcome to the Type 1 Club.
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Whether you're a parent grappling with a new diagnosis, a caregiver seeking guidance, or simply someone wanting to learn more about type 1 diabetes, this podcast is for you. Together, let's dispel myths, break down barriers, and build a community of understanding and resilience.

Meet the Hosts & Guest

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Join us as we embark on this journey together, because with knowledge, compassion, and support, no one should ever feel alone in managing type 1 diabetes.
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Welcome to the Type 1 Club.
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Hello and welcome to the Type 1 Club. I am your host, Jackie Kidman.

Eli's Symptoms & Diagnosis

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I am a Type 1 mum to Harvey who was diagnosed in June 2022 the
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This fortnight's episode, I um am welcoming another type one mum, Hannah, to the podcast, and she's going to share a little bit about her son's diagnosis story. Hannah, thank you so much for coming on the podcast and welcome.
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Thanks for having me. Hannah, would you start by sharing your son's diagnosis story for us, please? yep So Eli, he was born in February 2021.
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He was always just a really hard baby. Just one of those ones he was just was unhappy, had tongue tied. He just kept us on our toes a lot. And then, yeah, so generally just bit of a grump.
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Poor Eli. this your first child? I'm first child. So you have to measure. Yeah, I'm like, oh, God, you're just grumpy. But there was never really anything wrong. But around November, he took it to peak level grumpiness and he just was unhappy. But there wasn't really anything that kind of really jumped out as being unusual.
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So just when you describe unhappy, do you mean like crying a lot? not Yeah, like he never really fed well, never really enjoyed food and would just be like a crying, grizzly, grizzly little thing. He always slept well, so that was really good. But then through December, it started to get a little bit worse. He just was unhappy. was the best way to describe He just unhappy. He couldn't really put a finger on it. Because, oh, that's just what Eli said. And they started drinking water, which, again, hindsight's a wonderful thing. But at the time, he'd never drank water before. And he'd always struggled to drink his bottle. So we were like, oh, this is awesome. Look, he's drinking water. It's grabbing.
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but And then we had all of the now obvious signs of he started peeing through his nappy. And you go, oh, who that nappy's too small. So we'll go up a size. Those things that you think, you know, second child, I know what I'm doing. This just means he needs an exercise nappy. And then so the day before the ship hit the fan, he was just really sleepy, just a bit off. And we've got a really good friend who's a nurse. And she came round and we were just about to go into a lockdown or we're just out of a lockdown or something. And she was like, look, he's probably filing off a virus. Wouldn't recommend taking him to hospital because there's just so much COVID. It's just not worth it.
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So we were like, okay, just rest and water and so he'll be fine. And then on so December 17th, woke up in the morning and he'd peed through his nappy, but he'd carried on sleeping, which is quite unusual for a baby. And then we got him up, noticed his breathing was off.

Hospital Care & Home Adjustment

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And then we're like, okay, no, this is too much now. So we called the ambulance. And yeah, they were there super, super quick, obviously breathing issues, 10 months old. So the two paramedics were there. And it turned out to be a lovely thing. Like one of the women who'd got married at my wedding venue was the paramedic. So I'm like, oh, hi, Chloe.
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Still not thinking like it's a big thing. Yeah. And she was brilliant in just putting that two and two together. She was like, has he been drinking? I said, oh, well yes. He hadn't really drank water before. And she was like, I'm just going to test his blood while we're here.
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And so she checked his his blood sugar, just little finger break, and it was 46. Jeez. She was like, okay, like I can't diagnose him, but I'm pretty sure he has diabetes. And I just remember feeling such relief.
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like I was like, oh, great. I know what it is. That's fine. We're just going to to hospital and then he'll be fixed and then we'll come back. So we started off, we take to Frankston initially and they couldn't treat him. So then we got transferred to the Monash.
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And then I think I realised how bad it was because we were, his ketones were 7.4. Oh, Hannah. Wow. And he was just out of it, bless him. He was just drowsy and, yeah, not in a good way. So he was in intensive care at the Monash for probably about two days while they started to get his blood sugar down.
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And then we spent another day or so in the Monash before getting transferred back to Frankston. Yeah, it was... At the time, I just wanted to get out of hospital. Like, the moment they started to give him the insulin and give him all the stuff via the drip, he just brightened up. He was just happy and just back to normal. Even like a better normal. He was just happy. So at the time, I was like, I just want to go home. Like, we just want to get this done and dusted. We felt pretty...
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confident with what was being taught to us in hospital. We got the Dexcom straight off the bat when we were in first school. Yeah, so they they didn't want to send him home without it just because he was so young.
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So, yeah, we had that a couple of days before we got out of hospital and learning at that point, obviously it was MDI, so learning how to do the injections. and And then it was just coming up to Christmas. I was like, i just really want to go home. My other son's at home. I just want to just get into this now, just work it out.
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Yeah, so we were discharged on Christmas Eve. and and yeah like ah I'm quite a good problem solver so in my head I was like we'll just get home and we'll just do this and it's fine but then you get home and then you realize life is never going to be the same again it's just oh that still shit storm has just kicked off and yeah it must have been a funny time as well in terms of not funny haha but funny in the aspect of
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you're in a hospital where we were told at that time in the world that hospital is, you know, the not the worst place, but you should only be going using those services if it's in dire straits kind of thing, which of course, Eli was in dire straits. You know what I mean? But we were so conditioned to, if you can, you don't want to go into those hospitals because that's where all the sick people are and you need to keep him away from, need to keep babies away from that. And it's like the most vulnerable and all this messaging and this so scary. I could imagine, of course,
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through that, ah particularly if you've got another child at home, how old was your, is your other child? He was four then. And that Christmas time being in hospital around Christmas, I've had that as well. No one wants to be in hospital. You just want to get home and try and get back to life, don't you?
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Yeah. Did you have a moment where you thought, cause you said like you were happy that you got the diagnosis? Yeah. And you thought, okay, now we can move forward because I guess you're probably doing a lot of troubleshooting for those months before.
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What's happening with him? Like

Adapting to Insulin Therapy

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he's not a happy baby. You knew something was not right, but you couldn't find the answer. So then once you had an answer... He felt that relief, as you said. yeah I find that the months leading up to it, it was that kid that he was at the chiropractor. Yeah. He was having tongue-tie laser and we're trying different milks and it was just next level. So, yeah, as you said, the diagnosis, I was like, oh, we can fix him. This is fine. Yeah, yeah.
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But then when you say we can fix him, like, does is that then an element of a realisation of this is ongoing? Yeah. Yeah. Like we know what we're going to do to, inverted commas, fix him or to help manage this. But then the realisation of, well, far out, this is like a lot. Is that huge? Yeah.
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We didn't really have any experience with diabetes. My nan was type 2, so I was like, oh, I'm just going to give him some tablets. you Just complete ignorance. Yeah. It really is. Yeah. Even now, people sometimes are apologetic about not knowing what we go through with Eli. And I'm like, ignorance is bliss. Keep on being ignorant. I hope that you don't find out. Yes, absolutely. There is an element of where we want. ah yu I totally get that. I'm sure every parent with a tight one would resonate with that because we want people to have awareness, but we also don't want them. The only way that they're going to get awareness is probably to have experience at firsthand, which is,
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also something that you wouldn't wish on anybody either yeah it's know the signs know what to look out for yes but don't know what the actual living with it is which i think is the same for a lot of i think that's any parent with anything yeah so i can imagine coming home with a little baby and him having his first christmas but then all of a sudden he's now because he's got insulin on board he's starting to get the he's probably not feeling as bad that he's now this happier baby.
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So you've got that of like, that's a positive, but then also this negative that now this little baby's wearing a tech, wearing something. Tell me a little bit about that. Like, who was that? Oh, it was crazy because he'd always hated bottles. And then once he was diagnosed and we were having to inject him for formula,
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He ended up like just stopping bottles before even a year old, just flat out. Because we're like, what's the point in forcing him going through the cycle? And we've dosed him and then we're trying to catch him. So, yeah, he was, we're trying to introduce food.
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And he introduced food earlier. He'd had bits and pieces, but milk was still the main part. Like he was telling you too, of the, like to a degree, I know that, but like with the water, I just need, because ah I can imagine the milk is then spiky sugars and then he's, but if I just have the water, maybe I'll feel a little bit better.
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It was kind of a lovely thing in a way because then he was trying lots of foods and he was really enjoying eating. he actually got a little bit chubby. but It was lovely. But we were just, MDI for us just did not. It was hellish. Because he was in like with straight insulin.
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And I still keep the little diary. oh yeah, I've still got Harvey's actually. Oh, I get it out whenever I'm having a bad day. How far have I come? what we survived. Absolutely. yeah He would wake up most mornings just high as a kite, like 18 to 22 every morning. And then he would, we'd give the dose. It was too strong. Even half a unit was like too strong.
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So then he would plummet and then we're treating the low and then we go back up again. And he can't tell you. He can't really communicate with you around that what are his signs when he's low, when when he was little, when he was a baby. So I can probably count on one or two hands the amount of times that he has shown signs of a low.
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What's like for him? He's just sweaty, sweaty and a bit dazed. And he'll say, now he's older, he'll say, I'm a bit dizzy. yeahp And then high, like he started to be a bit of a cheeky little sod when he's high, fly around the room and be a bit rough and things like that. But until then, he really hasn't particularly shown any signs for it. So it was relying completely on the Dexcom.
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So you said you started MDI, so the manual multiple daily injections. A lot of people still don't know what that means, so I like to spell it out. So that just with the pens. What was the process for you to get onto it? So he's now on a pump. Is that what you're saying? So we had just under a year of and MDI and then the Monash, they wouldn't give him a pump because his insulin requirement was so low that the basal insulin would, it couldn't go small enough increments. And that was really frustrating because we're like, look at this book.
00:12:56
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Look what we're going through every day. and Look at the poor kid. Like he developed a lot of food aversions because were being told to pre-bolus and then we would serve him food and he'd be like, i don't want that. Yes. And then so we're like, here, have a biscuit. So we end up going private. And that was amazing. First appointment, we see Dr. Anton Harding. First appointment, he was like, great, we'll get you Ipsomed. We'll get him on diluted insulin.
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And so when he first started, I think it was 20% insulin. The rest is saline. And that was just life-changing. So why couldn't Monash, why couldn't the children's hospital, like

Community Support & School Preparation

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the hospital, not necessarily Monash, but why couldn't they do that?
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They did just didn't mention it, and I didn't know that you could do that. Of course they wouldn't know. And they were pushing the T-Slim as well, which has got, it doesn't have as small increments anyway with the basal. The Ipsomed's got, I think, the smallest, it used to at least. So it just felt, it was like, he has to get to this amount of insulin per day, otherwise you're not having the pump.
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And i think it was talking to someone that i met through the Type 1 Foundation. They were like, go private, go see Dr. Anton, and he'll give you more options. And he did, straight off the bat. We were like, great.
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And that difference between diluted insulin and pure 100% insulin, huge. So he's still on diluted insulin now. So it's 40% now.
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so what pump's he on now? So he's still on Ipsomed. So we've got it for another year. It's looking a bit beaten and battered, but but yeah, it does a great job. I don't think the algorithm correct.
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It's never going to work 100% right with a toddler because there's not a huge amount of inconsistency consistency to their day with their movements. boom And then also he, up until recently, that he was at childcare three days a week. And then he was with my mom, parents, one day a week. And then he used to be with my mother-in-law as well. And every person looks after him differently.
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I guess it's just never going to be perfect. Yes. And that's, I think that it's never going to be perfect anyway. do you know what I mean? I'm with same with Harvey. Harvey's 10 and almost 11 and he's on the Omnipod. And some days we have this great kind of straight-ish line. Other days it's all over the shop. But I'll look at like he he's he stops he's such a stop start know and I can't predict like all of a sudden his mates will knock on the door and then he'll like, oh, we're going go for a bike ride. And I'll be like, oh. But you can't stop that. Impromptu activity is not like that's just childhood. That's little kids and we have to just let it evolve and we can't, yeah you know, we have to let go of that.
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perfect straight line that we do tend to see that it's amazing when that does happen and yes and there's an element of celebration that happens there but I think that we can also go, no now you just need to sit down and do this. That's not going to happen with, not with my boy, that's for sure. I don't know if you're the same with your boys, but yeah, like it it has to work yeah with them too.
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And that's what the pump gave us is that it gave him such a normality or it gives him such a normality and that he can be start eating and I'm doing little doses in the background or yes he's running wouldn't even know would he yeah and that's it or you want to but eat a bit more or great you want an ice cream awesome no worries we can dose you for it you don't need to know we're not having to pull down his pants injecting his leg or but just break up his day yes that normality as possible like it to that's the same how i feel about the the with the omnipod because it's is it It's got a separate controller, the Omnipod, so I can have that and he can Harvey can be on the basketball court and I can be dosing him and he wouldn't even know really. He does hear the beep but after the dose, but he wouldn't even know that's happening half the time, I would say.
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Is that the same with, did you say he's on the Yip, the Yip so? Yeah, so it's just linked to a phone. So he was like the only one year old with this fancy little Samsung. The problem is all the phones get bigger and bigger. Not like the aim back in Rye when I was younger where would be as small a phone as possible. thing's like a brick. So we touched on the sibling sort of dynamic.
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of you've got like that you can have, say, for example, if he's not going to eat his dinner because he's getting getting these food aversions and then, but then the older child is seeing this. Tell me a little bit about that. Like how are you managing that to to say to your older child, like he needs this for his health of a medical thing, but then it's also like you're giving him a biscuit and it's all, yeah. I think like initially it was really difficult when we didn't know better when we would treat those lows or when you hadn't eaten a full meal, we used to give it with treats. Now we've been, and that caused issues with the boys, as we said, but now we really try to treat with glucose tablets. So we're very, I still like glucose tablets. And we treat them as medication. would rather him not eat a meal, start to go a little bit lower and catch that low, than have to give him a different food to supplement it And just, yeah, just for that sibling thing. And also for him, it helped with a lot of his food aversions where he didn't go, oh, i can I don't want to eat all these vegetables or whatever, because I know if I don't eat them, I'm going to get an ice cream.
00:18:39
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or whatever. And then also you're treating it with a treat, isn't it? Probably going to shoot them up afterwards. So I think that really helped. Living with type 1 diabetes can feel overwhelming, but you don't have to do it alone. At the type 1 hub in Geelong, you'll find connection, support and real people who truly get it.
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Visit us at 251 Moorable Street, Geelong. Already connected to the school that Eli will be going to because the big brother goes. How are you feeling about this transition? You've got a bit of time, but yeah, obviously it would definitely be on your mind, yeah?
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I think there's like two parts of this that kind of put my mind at rest a little bit. is One, he's started four-year-old kinder this year. And we and so prior to that, he's been at childcare since 18 months old. So they all learned initially to protect him. They learned then how to dose him with the pump. And it's been fine. We've been quite lucky in that sense. But when he's gone to kinder, his teacher's diabetic.
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So that has been absolutely amazing in just that ground knowledge, that basic knowledge. So i think what helps then is when he goes to school, I've been really lucky through the Type 1 Foundation. i met another Type 1 mum called Lisa, whose son goes to the school as well. And she has been the most amazing advocate for her son at the school. and I joke with her that we're just going to go through on her coattails, really, because she has whipped them into shape. She's told them exactly what they should be doing to give the best care for her son. i don't think we're people-pleased, but i think it's like the English, like, polite. I don't want to bother. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm like, great, you've just set it all up. We're just going to slide on in there. And I think Kinder has shown that if you have those people with at least the basic knowledge or you're not having to explain that you don't give insulin when they're low, like that kind of stuff, then hopefully it should be a relatively small session. But yeah I'm an overly optimistic person, so we'll see. Yeah, and you that's how great is it you've touched on stuff
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a couple of things that I'm like, that you've got, you've already built that, you're building that community of people and asking for advice and, it's super awesome that you've already got someone that's doing it done it for you and paved the way and that then you can have that kind of trust that at least yeah they have that base knowledge of what to do Harvey has three kids he's one of three now sorry children at his school and but they all do it differently which is interesting which is fine totally fine they're all at different ages or one of them is at the same year level but they all want to do it slightly differently we we all happen to be on the same tech but
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that's just by chance and the school is yeah like we're we're really lucky with how the school has handled and been open to a lot of things so but yeah people would have paved that way for up for us too and I always think that like that you know there's we've got a bit of a kind of a discussion happening now around camp and what to do with that Harvey's now grade five is it something that I can the school can support so I don't attend i don't know how I'll go with that myself personally but There's lots of these discussions that then will only help the next family that comes in. That's a tight one.
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That's how I look at it as well. But you very much touched on that you are connecting with people, asking them questions. Like you said, that person that you connected with, like you you don't know know until you need to know or that someone just mentioned something about diluted insulin, this endocrinologist. this school, this, like that sort of stuff of like, it's so important that I think that we don't just try and take it on board, that we have to be the ones that know everything.
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And it's, I've always found that like really early from pretty much day one of Harvey being diagnosed of that people are so willing to share and to help and offer a advice or thoughts that like, we can then only, it only then helps us as a community and us supporting our children.

Future Challenges & Support

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Like it's, what do we call it? the world the The worst, best club to be part of. It is, it is. And I found that his endocrinologist,
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is not as much help as the community. And that's not that I'm taking medical advice from the community. It's just that whenever he looks at the numbers, you can see that he's perplexed because his childcare days are completely different to his at-home days. And so he's not able to really offer any changes to the actual settings because they won't work. Mm-hmm. But what we've learned from the community that we can stay on the dilated insulin for as long as possible or what to do on what other people find that works for them on sick days and stuff like that.
00:24:03
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But there's a human element. Recently, I was talking to Eli's endocrinologist because he got to almost a PTSD level about finger pricks. Didn't want them, wouldn't have them. He's hiding under the table. And i had an appointment and I said said what was happening. And I was like, you can't tell that to a four-year-old. You can. but I just feel horrible. He's sweating and shaking. And then when I spoke to, again, someone through the Type 1 Foundation, they recommended the, we call it the blood sucker, but the one that sucks up before the little needle goes in. absolutely.
00:24:40
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It's amazing. And it means you can do it anywhere. So we do his forearms now or his thighs. And because it's pulling the skin away, it isn't getting nerve ending. So it doesn't hurt. The first time I got it, I was like, this isn't hurting. And I'm jabbing myself. Puncturing yourself all over. Yeah.
00:25:00
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And that's been great. And then when I told his doctor about it, he goes, oh, yeah, they've been around for years. Like, yeah sorry, I don't want to get into a negative rant, but sometimes I'm like. No, it's already hard.
00:25:12
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The needle fear is huge in this community, right? And how do you get over that? So I think that you're doing an amazing job. I'm very excited to hear how Eli is going to go at school.
00:25:25
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And it's so great that he's had such a great start to kinder. yeah Sometimes we hear a lot of the negative, but it sounds like Eli is having such a great time. And I'm sure that he'll have a great time when he goes to school as well. School's great too, because it's that complete, everything is so routine.
00:25:41
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It's quite amazing on their charts of, yeah, like just they eat at the same time. They dose at the same time. Yeah, it's wow. it's it does It's very helpful for their levels, I have to say.
00:25:53
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ah and just think my role so much is that I want to have this be as normal for him as possible. And if that means that his numbers are a little skew-iff or that sometimes that childcare and they might have made poor choices along the way, but I might have made poor choices along the way. as long as those choices are not terribly dangerous, then we will bounce back. But he won't know about it. He won't know that someone dosed him wrong or that someone was stressed about his carb count. I want to just protect him from that for as long as possible. because Absolutely. Because adult diabetics who didn't have that lifted from them in their teens and having the knock-on effect through their adulthood, yeah, i just want to try to protect him for as long as possible.
00:26:46
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i think that's how we feel as parents. Anyway, but that's definitely, I feel the same way with Harvey. I'll take on as much as I can, even though he's really wants to take on a lot more. I'll let him do it. But there's still lots of things in the background. He doesn't even know like that where us parents are doing, which is fine because he's going to have to deal with that for the rest of his life. So we may as well take it on while we can, Hayme.
00:27:10
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Oh, Hannah, I've really loved our chat today. i'm really grateful and thankful that you've opened up and shared everything.

Conclusion & Call to Action

00:27:16
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I can't imagine having a little baby being diagnosed with a type one, and you but you guys seem, you seem like you're doing amazing things and you're raising very level-headed kids too. And yeah, as we've said, that this is, this is it's ah sort of one of those sort of things that does make you feel alone at times, but it sounds like you're very open to reaching out when and seeing if there's other people to so that then you know that you're not alone it's very hard sometimes for people to stop and say actually i need a little bit of help here and it's so well done well done to you i normally finished every podcast by asking what is your go-to hypo treatment but you've already answered that so we don't really need to go to that one lame old glucose
00:28:07
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I hope that you have enjoyed all of our conversation that I've had with Hannah and everything she shared about Eli's diagnosis. And I look forward to bringing you another episode very soon. Take care. Bye-bye. Thank you for tuning in to the Type 1 Club podcast.
00:28:25
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