A conversation about the British and French elections,.  Subjects touched on include: the collapse of the Tories after 14 years in power, the NHS good and bad, Labour and Tory Transphobia, Mogg blubbing, the rise of Starmer's Labour and its 'majority without a mandate', Starmerism as anti-left, the defeat of Marine Le Pen's far-right National Rally in France by the left-bloc in the second round of National Assembly elections, gains by the right and left in Britain, Farage and Reform UK, Galloway and the Workers Party, the rise of neo-fascism worldwide, and the hollowing out of the centre, and prospects for the future.  With Simon Hannah, Rowan Fortune, and Jack Graham.  

Music: 'Debunking' by Yuzzy.