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Baseball's trade Deadline, DeShaun Watson the passing of legends
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I talk Golf, NFL suspensions, saying goodbye to Bill Russell and Vin Scully and baseball trades and the St Louis Cardinals!
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Introduction and Welcome
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Pay attention, son. This is for your own good. This is Gateway City Sports. You've got to get it done! This is Talking Sports on the Bleachers with Don Glenn. A confident young man. A superb athlete. A look at the sports issues of the day. Holy cow! Grab a seat, pop a cold one, and let's talk some sports. Gee, that sounds kind of interesting.
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Hey! Good to have you guys come back. Come on up. Been a crazy couple weeks in sports. Plenty of topics to talk about. Chew on. So bring up your favorite koozie. Or if you're an old timer like me, bring up your favorite uggy. Throw down the seat cushion. Slap on some sunglasses. And cuz we're about to talk some sports.
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Gentlemen, start your engines! Here's the snap. Romo looking, dumps it off right side. And her sentence! Her sentence is a goal line violation! And there is your dagger! The rumors are true.
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You don't understand, I could have had class. I could have been a contender. I could have been somebody. Are you crying? Are you crying? They're not crying? They're not crying anymore!
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Playoffs? Don't talk about it. Playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs? For this young Cinderella, he's coming out of nowhere. He's got about 350 yards left. He's literally got about 500 yards left. Don't you think? He's got a vehicle that's... That's... Oh, he's got all of that one!
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I won't die, boy! I won't die, boy! Be a little man! You tell that boy, come here, bro! Nobody can beat me! You tell him right back! Hey, Dad? You wanna help me catch him?
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I'd like that. Welcome back sports fans.
Gateway City Sports Coverage
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This is Talking Sports on the Bleachers and I'm your host Don Glenn and this show is proud to be part of the Gateway City Sports lineup of podcasts. At Gateway City Sports you will also find articles and news items about sports going on in the St. Louis bi-state area. We try to cover as much as we can but if there's something you like and we don't cover it
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I want you guys to let us know about it because we'll see what we can do. We will put some of our best people on it. At least we'll try. Hey, check out the other podcast. If you want the latest on the Cubs and Cardinals rivalry, check out the team of rivals with Ron Nuttle, Pete Gettys and Elliot Dewey. We're closing in on football and I'm hoping that means the end the cards with the A train Arlington lane will be back on the air.
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And as well as a couple other guys that hopefully will get to hear their voices again soon. We've got a few shows on hiatus. They'll be back with us we're hoping shortly. And there's more on the way too. There's some rumblings we may have some more options to offer you. So check us out at GatewayCitySports.com or find us on Facebook at Gateway City Sports.
Recent Sports News Recap
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Well, there's certainly been a lot of news to go down and I was waiting for the trade deadline and trying to make sense of it. And they kind of got knocked off track. And then the last few days I've been working a lot and the heats kind of got to me. So, um, I'm getting better now. And, um, you know, we've had two weeks of news to cover, had the passing of two great, uh, sports legends, uh, we've had some NFL suspensions, uh, golf is gearing up for its postseason.
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We've got a little bit about Tiger Woods and L.I.V. golf for you. Only three more races left in the NASCAR regular season before it hits its postseason. And there's the course, as I said earlier, the baseball trade deadline. We'll talk about some of that, the winners and losers, and how the Cardinals fared. So with all that going, let's get to it.
NASCAR Highlights and Analysis
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So first thing,
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NASCAR will start there. Last week, August 31st Indianapolis, Tyler Reddick won the Verizon 200 at the Brickyard Road course. Now that race is not a typical road course in that it goes through the middle of the infield of the Indianapolis, Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Kind of a neat deal, really. But it's different than your standard road course. Now Reddick
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did win the road of America race two weeks ago or two weeks before that. And he announced that he was leaving Richard Childress racing to join 23 XL racing, uh, or X I racing, excuse me, at the end of the 2023 season. So the end of next year. Um, now, you know, that announcement doesn't need, just not mailing in his, uh, his racing. He's, uh, going out to prove he can, he's worth it.
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Now Radek led throughout the race and survived a hectic restart in overtime to take the event. He led 38 out of the 86 laps, uh, the, after winning the poll to the event. Now turn one is where the access to the infield road course starts. And that was placed, uh, that Sunday of numerous accidents. Uh, but most were very minor with very little consequences until with three laps to go, Christopher Bell blew a tire.
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And that set up a restart. Again, well, like I said, three laps remaining. And as they came into the corner, Chase Elliott was running second and he tried to outbreak redic, but was spun by Ryan Bailey. Joey Logano entered the turn making multiple contact or contact with multiple cars, I should say, and the wall. Uh, then on the road course section, Austin Dillon spun out leading to another restart in overtime.
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The restart was not without its drama also, as Ross Chastain got bottled up on the restart, missed the corner on turn one, and took the access road through the pit, bypassing the road course and coming out in front of Redick on the other side. That's not really what the rules say you're supposed to do. They did get it all sorted out and Redick took the checkered flag. Now this past Sunday, Kevin Harvick put his name into the playoff picture, if you will.
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Uh, after winning the fire keeper's casino 400 at the Michigan and Michigan international speedway, he also in doing so broke a 65 race drought. Um, uh, the wind propelled him into the field of 16 with three races to go, or at least they consider cause this point system, I'm telling you, I don't even understand it. Uh, but Harvard caught good fortune when he made the green flag pit stop on lap, lap one 58 later, uh, one lap later after he got out of the pit stop.
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Uh, the caution came out and all the leaders came into pit. Well, Harvick stayed out. He ended up be taking over the lead while they're in the pits. Uh, and then when the race restarted the lap 166, Harvick opened up the carburetor. Well, at least I have a carburetor. I don't know anymore. And took a four second lead over pole sitter bubble Wallace. And then he never looked back and took the checkered flag. Uh,
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With the win, Harvey jumps over Martin Truex Jr., Alex Bowman, Austin Sindert and Daniel Suarez in the points chase for a top 16 postseason. It also drops Truex out of the top 16. He's trailing Alex or he's fighting Alex Bowman for that 16 spot.
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Now, NASCAR's point system is at best a complicated algebraic equation, I think. In the regular season, they've got points for how you finish in the race and extra points for who leads the most laps and all that kind of stuff. But for the postseason, if you will, there's a different set of points, a lot of two.
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You get five points for each win, one point for each stage win, because the race is now broken up into stages. They don't stop the race, but at certain points in the race, and it's usually three, except for the Coca-Cola 600 and one other race. They have four segments because of the length, but it breaks it up into three segments and the winner of each segment gets a point to go toward postseason.
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So you got those two then the top ten Finishers in the point standings also get bonus points That's prurator down starts at 15 for first place and goes down to one point I think it's like 15 10 8 6 something like that and then down to one and those points get assessed at the at the end of the regular season and
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Right now, and I've looked at this chart, I've looked at it, I don't know how many times, and, you know, kind of closed my eyes, looked at it again, rubbed my eyes, looked at it again, I still can't figure it out. Because, okay, as I said, let's break it in this way. The current leader is Chase Elliott. He has 847 regular season points. Those don't count other than his bonus points. So, he has four wins and five stage wins.
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And so he gets 20 points for his wins. He gets five points for stage wins. That's 25 points. And then he gets, if he were to stay at the top, he would get 15 points for finishing points status. Plus each driver that gets into the top 16 gets 2000 points. I don't know what the 2000 points are for.
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Everybody gets them so I don't know why they'll why why they're even getting them who knows So he projects out to 200 and or 2040 points now This is where I kind of go it's like okay, what's going on here because Bowman is fourth in points and Excuse me Bowman is
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Uh, uh, 15th, the head of Truex Truex is fourth in points. And on the other hand, though, he has no wins and seven stage where he has the most state stage wins of anybody in NASCAR. He's won the most days, won seven of them. Um, so you figure out seven points and he's fourth in regular season points. So that's another says that's 14 points, which we've given his 2000 and be 2014.
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while Bowman is sitting at 2006 points. So what is the deal? Now, it could be that maybe he does because he doesn't have a win, but that doesn't explain the fourth position in the top 16, which goes to Ryan Blaney, who has no wins, five stage wins for five points. He has second regular season points. That gets him, I think, 10 extra points.
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Truex is fourth in points. He's got more stage wins. And yet he's out at the top 16. And Blaney is the fourth of the, I guess we call him a four seed, I don't know, in the top 16. That's crazy. But they have three more races to straighten it out. So we'll see what happens with that.
Golf Highlights and Player Focus
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In golf, Tony Fennell, man, that guy is hotter than a firecracker right now.
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He's won back-to-back events. He won the 3M championship two weeks ago. And then he won the Rocket Mortgage Classic last Sunday at the Detroit Golf Club. He finished five strokes ahead of Cameron Young and Taylor Pinder and Patrick Cantley. One of the knocks on Fenno has always been that he's been considered a top contender, but never had enough to seal the deal. His wins have all been very sporadic and
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Separate, I guess, is in between wins at the Puerto Rican Open in 2016 and the Northern Trust in 2021, he had 39 top 10 finishes. Now, think of this. In a five-year span, he had 39 top 10 finishes, but could not win a tournament. And the thing is, he didn't play in 39 tournaments. It's not like he played in 150 tournaments and only
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that 39 top 10s. There was 39 tournaments he didn't even play in. So now this season, he's since April 6, he's played an 11 tournaments, he's got two wins, two second place finishes, one fourth place finish, and he's only missed the cut one time and that was at the US Open. In the final event for the PGA regular season, this will pass Sunday, the 2022 Wyndham Championship at Sedgefield Country Club in Greensboro, North Carolina.
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which was, uh, one in Supreme comeback fashion by Joo Young Kim. Uh, he had a near disaster on Thursday, starting his round with a quadruple bogey on the first hole quadrant. That sounds like the way I play quadruple bogey. Who does that in pro golf? Uh, very quickly fell 13 strokes off the leader, but the 20 year old from South Korea, uh, most everybody calls him Tom for what reason? I don't know.
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Was able to come back and record a 367 then added rounds of 664 268 before turning in a 9 under 61 on Sunday finishing the event 20 under par Now you know think about it. He starts out the first hole of the tournament for over ends up the tournament 20 under
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That's just phenomenal to me. He was on fire like in nobody business, you know. He finished five strokes ahead of fellow South Korean Sun Jae-im and John Ha, American John Ha. On the final round Sunday, Kim shot eight under on the front nine for the second lowest total score for nine holes in the event's history.
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So congratulations to June Young Kim. Uh, so, uh, now this week starts off the post-season with the FedEx St. Jude championships at the TPC Southwind in Memphis, Tennessee. So, uh, we'll see how, uh, uh, Kim and some, and the other great PGA golfers have, uh, uh, wolf fair. And I'm sticking with golf for a few minutes here.
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It was revealed by Fox News last week, they interviewed Greg Norman, who is the CEO of Live Golf, that he said Tiger Woods was offered a $700 to $800 million package to play for the Saudi backed
Tiger Woods and LIV Golf Offer
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league. And Norman said the offer was made before he became CEO. He didn't say whether he opposed it or not, or at least that part wasn't reported. But now to put all this into perspective,
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Woods just recently reached billionaire status. So we're talking about almost doubling his net worth immediately. Then there is the, this is Woods career earnings from playing golf over this year is $120 million. So we're talking six, almost roughly six times what he is making this year is what he was offered to play live golf.
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Now, Woods rejected the offer outright, according to sources, and in a press conference before the U.S. Open, he criticized players who signed up for the new league. When asked about live golf before the Open, Woods had this to say, the players who have chosen to go to live and go to play there, I disagree with it. And he also went on to say, I think that what they have done is they've turned their back on what allowed them to get to this position.
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He indicated that some players may come up straight out of the amateur ranks and jumped in to live so they never got the tour experience or the ability to play in big events such as the US Open, the Masters and things of this nature. He said, you know, he addressed the guaranteed contract money by saying, what is the incentive to practice? What is the incentive to go out there and earn it in the dirt? He finished his comments with this statement. I just don't see how that move is positive.
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In the long term for a lot of these players, especially if the lib organization doesn't get world ranking points and the major championships change their criteria for entering the events, it would be sad to see some of these young kids never get a chance to experience it and experience what we've got a chance to experience and walk these hallowed grounds and play in these championships. So, you know, I tell you this, it takes a lot of guts
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and sticking to your principles to turn down the kind of money that he just turned down.
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NFL Suspensions and Reactions
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All right. In the NFL, the Cleveland Browns quarterback Dashaun Wilson was given a six game suspension by federal judge Sue L. Robinson, who was, uh,
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uh... chosen to uh... mediate the decision uh... got roger goodeld uh... declined to hear the case and turned it over to uh... an appointee appointed a federal judge for that uh... watson faced lawsuits from twenty four different women accusing him of sexual assault and misconduct and most of this stuff came about uh...
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in complaints that Watson was seeking sexual activity while booking at least 66 different massage therapists over a 17 month period while playing in Texas. The suspension of his hand down, Brown's owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam released a statement saying, we respect Judge Robinson's decision.
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And at the same time, empathize and understand that there are many individuals have been triggered throughout this process. We know Deshaun is remorseful and that this situation has caused much heartache too many. And he will continue to work the work needed to show who he is on and off the field. And we will continue to support him. Now, two different Texas grand juries declined to file criminal charges against Watson for the alleged sexual abuse.
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And the NFL, by some reports, had been considering a full-year suspension. They do agree to defer to the judge and have the judge make the ruling. Now, the judge's ruling does fall in the line with past NFL rules suspending players for sexual abuse. While they were not criminal charges, Ben Roethlisberger in 2010, James Wilson in Winston, excuse me, in 2018. Now, of course, now, the difference here with the Watson case,
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is the sheer amount of complaints. I mean, we're talking 24 different counts. And as I said earlier, he is 66 different massage therapists over 17 months. So, you know, who knows how many didn't report what happened. Another part really is a judge said that Watson must now get all his massage therapy from club therapists.
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So what does this mean to the Cleveland Browns is that unless you make a deal or two, uh, it'll be journeyman quarterback quarterback, uh, Jacoby Brissett formerly of the New England Patriots in Indianapolis and Miami is in effect going to be your de facto starting quarterback for at least six games. Now I say at least six games because NFL is not happy here. And this is, this is what is starting to boggle my mind. Um, is.
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They are now seeking to appeal the judge's decision after they appointed the judge to arbitrate the case. And the talk is now that they're not happy because they wanted an indefinite suspension and they didn't get their way. So now stay tuned as Goodell has, and I don't remember the name of the gentleman, he just did it today, appointed a new person to go over the appeal.
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And evidently Goodell thought that because he appointed a woman in the case, that she'd come down hard and more in line with what the league wanted to do. But since the judge did not, now the NFL's happy, it's not happy, excuse me, and they're appointing, again, like I said, a second opinion arbiter to the case. It's almost like saying, well, I didn't like the first one, let's try this again with the difference.
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I don't understand it. Now, Wilson had the right to appeal the first and the NFLPA announced that they were not going to appeal the ruling, but given this new now wrinkle with the appeal by Goodell, the NFLPA has now filed their response brief to his appeal. So this thing ain't going away. Now, here's what I say to you, Mr. Goodell,
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And I'm going to try and be somewhat respectful more so than I ever was with Rob Manfred. Uh, but I'll hell with it. I'm not going to be respectful. If you want to lay down the laws and quit being a chicken shit and go out and get some higher again, what are you scared of? After all the NFL has already got black eyes all over the place from the St. Louis Rams debacle, the issue surrounding Washington commanders.
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Uh, and you, you know, one would think you would be humble just to take the win, but no, Goodell, you have to be taking lessons from Rob Manfred and how to screw up professional sports. Be a, if you want to do something about it, then do something about it. You already did. You hired a judge to arbitrate the case. The judge didn't go your way. And now you want to change the rules in midstream. Hey, Goodell, you're an idiot. End of story.
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In other suspension news, the NFL suspended Dolphins owners Steven Ross through October 17th and fined him $1.5 million. The Dolphins also forfeit the first round pick in 23 and the third round pick in 24 for violating the integrity of the game.
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Yeah, and we've got Cadell as the commissioner for that. Okay, an NFL investigation found that while the Dolphins did not intentionally lose games, the league concluded that Ross at least hinted at prioritizing draft picks over a winning record in 2019. They also found that he reported, or excuse me, repeated communications from both Tom Brady and Sean Payton without their permission. The NFL also seemed more concerned than, and I guess rightly so,
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With tampering aspect of both of those Brady and Peyton, then they were about trying to throw games and tank the season. Uh, but say, you know, take for cat one for the other. I mean, it needed one of good. If you want to get right down to it.
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But the alleged occurrences with Tom Brady occurred in 2019 and then again in 2021. The discussions were said to have been about Brady becoming a limited partner with the Dolphins franchise and possibly serving as a football executive. And there were even discussions about him playing for the Dolphins. Now, as for the hubbub around Peyton, the NFL found that the Dolphins, or Ross, I should say, contacted Peyton's agent Don Yee
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while the coach was still under contract with New Orleans and that the Dolphins did not get permission from the Saints to talk to Peyton. While serving his suspension, Ross will not be permitted to be present at Dolphins facility or represent the team or any team for the NFL or at any NFL event. He is also being prohibited from any league meetings until the annual owners meeting in 2023.
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oh my god the nfl the dumpster fire anymore i'm telling you right now folks it's i mean it is it's a dumpster fire you had the whole washington commanders you had the the tom flore i i just don't understand you know um why we things can't be the way they were with sports
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And these teams and the leagues have any kind of integrity. Has money gotten that crazy? Geez. A couple of sad things to report. And it happens, and we have to report it.
Tributes to Sports Legends
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The world of sports has been hit by two deaths of legendary men. The first is Boston Celtics star Bill Russell passed away.
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Well, um, he played, uh, he was 88. He played in 13 years with the Celtics winning the NBA championship 11 times with the last two being as a player coach. During his career, Russell scored 14,522 points or 15.1 points per game, grabbed 21,620 rebounds or 22.5 rebounds per game, and even dished out 4,100 assists or 4.3 assists per game. Um,
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I know a lot of NBA teams that take that right now. I need to tell you. He's second career rebounding behind Wilt Chamberlain, Wilt had 23,924. He led the league four times. Only two other players have done that, Kevin Garnett and Andre Drummond. Four, now four players did win it more than he did Chamberlain.
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who won it 11 times. Dennis Rodman won it seven, Moses Malone six, and Dwight Howard four, or five, excuse me. He was a league MVP five times, only Kareem Abdul Jabbar has won that more at six. He was named to the All-Star team 12 times, totaling 13 years in the NBA. He made the All-Star team 12 times.
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And again, with the last two being as a player-coach. That just tells you how good the guy was, right? But anyway, the 12 times he was an NBA All-Star, 120 points, 139 units, and 39 assists. So if you've figured that out, that's...
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10 points a game, what, 11 rebounds a game, and three assists a game as an All-Star. So, cool. There's teams that would probably take that in a regular game for a couple of players here. He was awarded the inaugural NBA Lifetime Achievement Award in 2019. The NBA Finals
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MVP trophy is named after Mr. Russell. He was named to all four anniversary teams, 25th, 35th, 50th, and 75th anniversary teams. He was the first player to ever win a college title at the University of San Francisco, an Olympic gold medal, and an NBA championship.
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He was originally drafted by the St. Louis Hawks in 1956 and then traded on draft day to the Celtics for Cliff Hagen and Easy Ed McCauley. Many former stars have come forward to remember Bill and what they've meant to him. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar released this tweet. Bill Russell was the quintessential big man, not because of his height, but because of the size of his heart. In basketball,
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He showed us how to play with grace and passion. In life, he showed us how to live with compassion and joy. He was my friend, my mentor, my role model. RIP, my friend, my deepest condolences to his family. Michael Jordan had this to say, Bill Russell was a pioneer, as a player, as a champion, as the NBA's first black head coach, and I'm gonna add something here, he was not only the NBA's, he was pro,
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pro first black head coach in pro sports or major pro sports at the time. But as an activist, he paved the way and set an example for every black player player who came to the league after him, including me. This is again, Michael Jordan talking. The world has lost the legend, my condolences to his family. And may he rest in peace.
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Bill Russell was a civil rights activist who strove for equality and fairness during some of the most difficult times. We're talking back in the 50s and 60s here. He liked Henry Aaron, Jackie Robinson, Jim Brown. They experienced the admiration of the fans when they were out there playing and then had to deal with the bigotry of intolerance. Russell would stay the course and be himself. He would persevere and emerge triumphant.
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Now I never saw Russell play. I may be old, but I ain't that old, folks. Okay. I mean, I may have caught a couple of games when I was like seven or eight, but I really didn't know what I was watching then. But I've watched old clips of him and I've been struck by his tenacity, his last athletic ability. And you could just tell when he walked under the court, he was the leader.
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His teammates fed off and you could just see it when he was on the court. You could see it when he was walking around and playing. I mean, I know that's why I probably he was one reason such a successful player coach because everybody knew he was the leader. Then as NBA Commissioner Adam Silver put it, Bill stood for something much bigger than sports. The values of equality, respect, inclusion that he stamped into the DNA of our league.
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And as I said, I didn't get to see Bill Russell play as much as probably I would have liked to. I mean, like I said, I was probably seven or eight when he hung up his cleats or, excuse me, basketball shoes. But, you know, like I said, I can't imagine watching the old clips, like I said, of him play.
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and facing some of the guys he faced back then, you know, uh, Elvin Hayes had came into the league in the late sixties. Uh, you had, you had, uh, Chamberlain and, and, uh, a number of other guys, uh, Willis Reed and, um, you know, uh, to do what he did to put up the numbers he did to be the person he was, uh, to speak volumes with the man and why he's so respected.
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Now, fortunately, there's also the passing of Vince Scully, who passed away at the age of 94. Scully, of course, is the legendary Los Angeles Dodger broadcaster. He first entered Dodger TV radio booth in 1951. And then when the Dodgers moved from Brooklyn, I think it was 56, somewhere, he came with them. He didn't stay in New York. He came with them to Los Angeles.
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He retired in 2016. A statement by the Dodgers said he was the voice of the Dodgers and so much more. He was their conscience, their poet laureate, capturing their beauty and chronicling their glory from Jackie Robinson to Sandy Colfax, Kirk Gibson to Clayton Kershaw. Ben Scully was the heartbeat of Los Angeles. Now, Scully, like many broadcasters, was not limited to just his team.
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Scully could be heard and seen on TV doing football and golf from 1975 to 1982. He even did his seven-year stint at NBC from 1983 to 1989. He had many, many great calls over these 66 years of broadcasting, but probably his two most remembered would be the first one would be the 1982 NFC Championship game
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call that has been commonly referred to now as the catch from the touchdown pass between Joe Montana and Dwight Clark. And then of course, his call of game one of the 1980 World Series to Kirk Gibson's game winning home run. Vin Scully was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame as a Ford C Frick award winner in 1982.
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He received the Commissioner's Historic Achievement Award in 2014. He has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Ben Scully, a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame. He also received the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2016. Dodgers president and CEO Stan Caston said in a written statement, the Dodgers Ben Scully was one of the greatest voices in all sports. He was a giant of a man, not only as a broadcaster, but as a humanitarian.
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He loved people, he loved life, he loved baseball and the Dodgers, and he loved his family. His voice will always be heard and etched in all our minds forever. I know he was looking forward to joining the love of his life, Sandy. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family during this very difficult time. Vin will be truly missed.
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Ben Scully is one of a handful of broadcasters that fans will always remember. You have Harry Carey in Chicago, Mel Allen in New York, and of course the iconic Chris Jackson doing college football. And then of course, as we grew up listening to the Cardinal baseball, Mr. Jack Buck. There's always something when you hear that voice.
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spinning that picture of your favorite team, you hear the excitement in their voice, you hear the emotion, and you realize that person is not just a broadcaster. They're a fan just like you. R.I.P., Devin Scully, R.I.P. to Bill Russell, condolences to both their families. Let's get back to some sports before I get too melancholy here. All right, the AP pre-season college football rankings are out.
00:38:09
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And it's the Georgia Bulldogs, top in the list, followed by the Crimson Tide of Alabama. The Michigan Wolverines coming in at number three, the Cincinnati Bearcats are four, and the regular Bears checking at number five. The second half of the top 10 goes like this, the Buckeyes from Ohio State, six Oklahoma State Cowboys are seven, the Fighting Irish Notre Dame showing at number eight.
00:38:34
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The Michigan State Spartans are number 9 and rounding out the top 10 are the Oklahoma Sooners. Starting the next top 10, the Ole Miss Rebels start that list with the Utah Utes being at number 11 or excuse me 12. Pitt Panthers come in at 13 followed by Clemson Tigers and the Demon Deacons of Wake Forest.
00:38:58
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Then the Louisiana Raging Cajuns are 16, Houston Cougars 17, followed by the Kentucky Wildcats at 18, BYU Cougars at 19, the Wolfpack River of Carolina State round out the top 20. And the final five are the Arkansas Razorbacks, Oregon Ducks, Iowa Hawkeyes, Utah State Aggies, and the San Diego State Aztecs.
00:39:23
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Finishing just outside the top 25 were Texas A&M, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Purdue, University of Texas, San Antonio, Army, Fresno State, Coastal Carolina, UAB, and Air Force. Speaking of college football, I do hope to have training camp, training camps are really working to try and get somebody on. We can talk a little big 10 football, a little Illinois football. You know, I remember when I played football in high school.
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MLB Trade Deadline Analysis
00:41:13
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Okay, unless you've been living under a rock the last two weeks, you have heard the baseball trading deadline has come and gone. Then normally starts around the 23rd. They call the, they say about 10 days prior to the end, the deadline is what they call the trading period. All you can trade at any point in time from the season starts to the deadline. So I went back to the 23rd to kind of track the trades as they happened.
00:41:39
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You know, as as usual, the first few days they were kind of sporadic. The and weren't really some that many big names being thrown around. The first trade was July 23rd. The meth traded. Right hand pitcher Colin Holderman for Pittsburgh's first baseman Daniel Vogelbach on the 27th. The Yankees did get a fairly big name in obtaining Andrew Benetendi from Kansas City for minor league right hand
00:42:09
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Chandler Champlain and Beck Way. Yes, that is his name folks Beck Way B E C K W A Y I am NOT making that up and left-hand pitcher TJ sigma or sakima Then the Mets also made another deal This time on the 28th, they traded Cincinnati they picked up
00:42:37
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Tyler Naquin and left-handed pitcher Philip Dial. The Reds got minor leaguers second baseman Hector Rodriguez and right-hand pitcher Joe Acuna. Since then he wasn't done the next day they sent right-handed pitcher Luis Castillo the second big name to fall to Seattle for minor league short stops short stops. I said stops two of them. Novalia Marte and Edwin Aroro and right-hand pitcher pitchers Levi Stout and Andrew Moore.
00:43:08
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Now, the Cardinals jumped into the fray on the 30th and they sent second baseman shortstop Ed Mundo Sosa to Philadelphia for a left-handed pitcher Jojo Romero. The Cubs made a deal with the Dodgers, sending right-handed pitcher Chris Martin to LA in exchange for second baseman Jack McKinstry. Tampa Bay dipped their toes in the water, getting outfielder David Peralta from Arizona for catcher Christian Surda.
00:43:33
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Uh, the Cubs, uh, were at it again on the 31st. This time they sent infielder Dixon Machado to San Francisco in exchange for right-handed pitcher Raynal Espinal. Okay. I hope I pronounced that right. Or came close.
00:43:51
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Uh, then the floodgates opened up and like I said, until now, all you really seen is the Bennett Tandy deal, the Castile and Naquin, Arabins, everybody been doing a premature pedestrian walkthrough. They were all waiting on the Soto move who was going to get Soto. Oh my gosh, who's the mystery team? Okay. Well, you know, I don't think there was ever any mystery about it. We all knew who the players were. It was going to the Cardinals, Potters and Dodgers. Excuse me a second. But there were still many moves to be made.
00:44:20
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And it always happens. It's raining. You thought that one player that people think are going to move this day. Well, and then it becomes, uh, um, you know, the name, this player watch, if you will. So, but Atlanta was a hot topic. And much like last year when they acquired an entire outfield in one day, uh, they didn't quite get that, but it kind of felt like it as, uh, uh, they traded, uh, Washington and sending infielder Harry. I Harry, excuse me.
00:44:49
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Adranza to Washington in exchange for outfielder Trey Harris. Then they traded for outfielder Robbie Grossman from Detroit in exchange for left-hand pitcher Chris Anglin. And then they got right-hand pitcher Jake Oderizi from Houston in exchange for Will Smith. And Houston and Boston also made multiple moves along with the trade with Atlanta.
00:45:14
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Houston was involved in a three-way deal with Baltimore and Tampa Bay. Houston got outfielder first baseman Trey Mancini and right-handed pitcher Jaden Murray. Baltimore got right-hand pitchers Seth Johnson and Chase McDermott. While Tampa Bay ended up with Jose City in a separate trade, Boston also received Christian Vazchez for a player to be named later.
00:45:46
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Boston required Tommy Pham from Cincinnati for a player to be determined, to be determined later. And they traded the White Sox sending left-handed pitcher Jake Deakman to Chi-town for catcher Reese McGuire. The Yankees made a couple of deals sending right-hand pitcher Hayden Westnesky to the Chicago Cubs for right-hand pitcher Scott Efros, then hooking up with the Oakland in a deal that saw the Yankees get more pitching help
00:46:12
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getting right-handed pitcher Frankie Montas and Lou Trevino. They sent left-handed pitchers JP Sears and Ken Wildenchick and right-handed pitcher Luis Medina and second baseman Cooper Bowman to the Athletics. Tampa Bay picked up outfielder Jermaine Tapia, or fifth, excuse me, outfielder Jermaine Tapia to the Dodgers for right-handed pitcher Garrett Clevenger.
00:46:40
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in Kansas City, then third baseman Emmanuel Rivera to Arizona in exchange for Luke Walker. St. Louis got back into the hunt and got some rotation and bullpen depth, picking up left-handed pitcher Jose Quintana and right-handed pitcher Chris Stratton from Pittsburgh in exchange for right-handed pitcher Johan Oviedo and infielder Malcolm Nunez.
00:47:04
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Now the shocker trade of the day, if you will, is the Milwaukee Brewers trading left-handed closer, Josh Hader to San Francisco, or excuse me, San Diego, for left-handed pictures, Taylor Rogers and Robert Glasser, and left-handed picture, or excuse me, right-handed picture, Denison Limit and outfielder, S3 Ruiz. Then came the day. Okay.
00:47:32
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Here's when he moved August 2nd. San Diego was the big mover. It was the biggest move of the trading deadline as the Washington National sent Juan's photo and Josh Bell to San Diego for left-handed pitcher Mackenzie Gore, right-handed pitcher Jarlin Susanna, outfielders Robert Hassell and James Wood and shortstop CJ Abrams.
00:47:58
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The deal was also supposed to have included Eric Hosmer, but he exercised his non-trade clause and Luke Voigt was sent instead. San Diego did then later deal Hosmer to Boston with second baseman Mack Ferguson and outfielder Corey Rozier for left-hander Jay Groom. Then they traded shortstop Victor Acosta to Cincinnati for infielder Brandon Drury.
00:48:24
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They're not satisfied there, they traded catcher Cam Gallagher to Kansas City for out brewer Brent Rooker. San Diego was busy. We'll see how that works out for them. The Angels were next most active team on Tuesdays. They made a pair of deals, one with the, or a pair of deals with the Phillies, excuse me, sending Brandon Marsh for Logan O'Hop and the other trading Noah Cindergaard for Mickey Maniac and Jadelle Sanchez.
00:48:53
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Then they sent right-handed picture, Rezel Iglesias to Atlanta for right-handed picture, Jesse Chavez, and left-handed picture, Tucker Davidson. Minnesota made three deals on the last day, getting Jorge Lopez from Baltimore for right-handed picture, Yener Cano and Juan Nunez, left-handed picture, Cade Povich and Jordan Rojas. They also picked up infielders, Spencer Steer and Christian, oh boy, Encarcion Strand,
00:49:22
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and left-handed pitcher Steve Fajardo Cincinnati for Tyler Miley. Then they picked up Michael Fulmer from Detroit in exchange for Sawyer Gibson Long. Philadelphia is evolving in the third deal. This one with the Cubs getting David Robertson a right-handed pitcher for a right-handed pitcher Ben Brown. Okay.
00:49:41
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The Dodgers made two deals, one with the Yankees to acquire Joey Gallo in another name of a note that got traded, uh, for right-handed pitcher Clayton Beater. Then they sent infielder outfielder Jake Lamb to Seattle for cash considerations. Uh, also a cash consideration deal. Baltimore sent, uh, Tampa Bay outfielder Brett Phillips for the same cash considerations. He must, that must be a great player with a lot of brothers cash considerations. I don't know.
00:50:08
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The Blue Jays made a couple of deals. They traded shortstop Jordan Gossens to Miami for right-handed pitcher Anthony Bass and Zach Pop. Then they got Whit Merrifield from Kansas City for infielder Samad Taylor and right-handed pitcher Max Castillo. The Mets acquired Darren Ruff from San Francisco in exchange for infielder J.D. Davis and left-handed pitchers Thomas Zappuckey and Nick Zwack.
00:50:36
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Whatever happened to names like Green, Roy, I mean, I don't know. And also writing in a picture of Carson Seymour. The Cardinals picked up another arm getting a lieutenant pitcher Jordan Montgomery from the Yankees in exchange for Houtfield or Harrison Bader. So who were the winners and losers on all this mess? If you called all that or didn't catch it, go back and listen to it again. I'm not going to repeat it.
00:51:03
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But clearly, it was the Padres that made the biggest moves, getting Bell and Soto and Hader. I mean, those three moves alone. And then you add Drury to the mix. He's going to play a good shortstop till Tatis gets back. And then when Tatis gets back, now you've got a guy that's got 20 home run pop coming off the bench. So you got to look at it. They clearly won, at least name-wise, of what they're getting.
00:51:32
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Um, we'll see. And now the talent they gave up is mostly young talent and they can replenish it. I mean, it's not any real huge. I mean, I think woods or excuse me, a hassle was the biggest name they, uh, out of their, uh, minor leagues that they sent to Washington. Um, and, uh, you know, when you, but now I don't, it's going to be interesting. Um, like I said, cause I think they can do, they can hold on until 24.
00:52:02
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Cause in 24 Soto will be a free agent and I just don't see San Diego trying to sign him when they're still dealing with the contracts of Manny Machado and Fernando Tatis Jr. Uh, because Tatis is going to want to get paid about, I think he is Soto at the same time, if I'm not mistaken. So, or maybe he's a year after. So it was something I had 24, 25 strikes me as when, uh,
00:52:27
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Tatis' contract is due. They're going to want to keep him. They're going to want to keep Machado. I do not see them getting and shelling out half a billion dollars, which is the reported haul it's going to take to get Juan Soto signed with somebody. I'm not sure anything's going to pay half a billion. There may be, I mean, yeah, maybe the Yankees might. Maybe the Dodgers might. But, I mean, let's face it, people.
00:52:56
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You're going to pay somebody $50 million to play a flipping kids game. Okay. Now I know I'm old enough said it before. I am an old fart. All right. And I make no bones about that. Uh, I mean, I remember the day when it was at least around St. Louis, the talk was, do we really want to pay Ozzy Smith $6 million to play shortstop? Okay.
00:53:17
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Anybody nowadays would say that was crazy talk back then and maybe a few years from now saying Nobody wanted to pay 50 million dollars a year for one so it'll be crazy talk I don't know but this seems like a huge amount to me for For somebody playing a kid's game. I just really is
00:53:35
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Now Josh Bell is a free agent at the end of this season, so he's going to command some money, not near what the length of Soto is going to get, but he'll be up for something. So they may re-sign Bell what the Padres might do. They might go ahead, re-sign Bell, and then let
00:53:53
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let Juan do his walk in 24. You just never know what's going to happen. Now the Yankees also did pretty well picking up Benetende, getting rid of Joey Gallo, then getting Montas and Trevino as well. Now Harrison Bader, he's injured right now with a plantar fasciitis. I think it's on his left foot, I'm not sure, one of his feet.
00:54:21
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So he's still on the aisle. He's had some setbacks trying to rehab. So, but I think he will be somebody that can really solidify their outfield because their outfield defense is not good. I mean, they got guys that can hit, they just got guys that can catch. So, but I think Harrison Bay will fill that role pretty well for them.
00:54:46
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Now, the one thing is there is a little provision of the Bader deal. I'll go back to the second. A little provision there where if Bader is not available, come playoffs and the Yankees are in the playoffs, then the Cardinals will be obligated to give them a player to be named later as compensation for not having Bader in the postseason. So we'll see how that ends up.
00:55:16
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The Astros also dealt with some needs that catch your first base to each left your reliever. They didn't get everything or give up anything they'll miss anytime soon. And they didn't really get everything, but they got the majority of most of what they needed.
00:55:31
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So they filled some holes. Minnesota came up with some good acquisition in pitcher Tyler Maley, in addition to both Fulmer and Lopez. It makes their pitching talent really good. And Malley is not afraid to 24. Lopez is not afraid to 25. So they're going to have him for a couple of years and maybe be able to get him to stay. Now for those teams who swung and missed the Red Sox, I mean, can anybody tell me what the hell is going on in Boston?
00:56:00
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send a stud catcher in Vasquez and then pick up Tommy Pham and Eric Hosmer. And now part of the Hosmer deal, of course, is that the pod is between the majority of Hosmer's salary. So I guess it works out that way. But Hosmer is not right now the type of hitter that would benefit from playing in Fenway. At best, they chose to tread water and hoping they can stay in a wild card race. And they just might because of what the Orioles did.
00:56:28
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Um, you know, another team, you gotta scratch your head. You know, you went 16 and nine in July. You actually pulled ahead of the Red Sox. You are in the playoff discussion. And then you turn around and you trade Trey Land, uh, Trey Mancini and Horia Lopez. Two people who are obviously part and the big, big part of that 16 and nine records you had in July.
00:56:56
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And this is the statement that Elias, the general manager Michael Elias said, I think the 500 record we have, winning the last couple months that we have, the moments that we have has made this much more difficult decision and much more complicated trade deadline than it would have been or that any of the other past ones have been.
00:57:18
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Ultimately, I have to tether my decision to the outlook and the possibilities of this year. We have a shot at the wild card right now, but it's not a probability that we're going to win a wild card. We have all different ways of looking at it and moves that make, that we make can strengthen our chances for next season and the season beyond and the one beyond. There is something there we have to continue to consider despite the tremendous progress of our players have made this year.
00:57:46
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Now I have to wonder, you know, I gotta wonder, are they strengthening their chances with Seth Johnson, who is headed for Tommy John surgery, and two other single-A pitchers? That's their, that's their future? That's their guys in, you know. Okay, you know, if I'm an Orioles fan, I'm seriously considering, of course, they really don't have much choice. Okay, nevermind. Yeah, because all you got is your Boston or Washington. Boy, what a, what a,
00:58:16
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Teams that did upgrade somewhat, the Phillies getting Brandon Marsh and Noah Syndergaard, have solid depth and bodes well for them getting their name into the playoff picture. The Mets picking up pieces that they did should help them stay atop the East with Tyler Naikland and Ruff in the outfield. Volga back should be some good bench help. There are three and a half games ahead of Atlanta. These moves might just keep them there. So we'll see.
00:58:45
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Dodgers, not that they had to make any moves, but picking up Joey Gallo and Jake Lamb just adds a little more depth to their team. I think they just did it to piss everybody off. They really have.
St. Louis Cardinals Trading Strategy
00:58:55
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The St. Louis Cardinals, while they didn't win the Wands Total Sleepstakes, they did add to a rotation that looked like Swiss cheese or a mash unit, if you will. And they added a bullpen piece which helped wean them off of weak arms like Druver Egan.
00:59:11
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Uh, now specifically about the Cardinals, I'll finish up. We'll try to finish up as quick as I can here. I know this is kind of a longer podcast than I normally do. Uh, but specifically about the St. Louis Cardinals, as I said at the last, my last podcast, I didn't think we were going to get soda. I said it then I said, I don't think we're getting soda. I think we're going to have to concentrate on the pitching.
00:59:33
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and fill those holes as needed. And we did that. Now, most fans won on Soto, and to win the division to get the World Series, we didn't need Soto. And I've taken a lot of heat to that stance, but I'll stand by it. I know that our, even our daily discussions on Gateway City Sports around, as I call it, the water cooler, our Twitter line, our Twitter account that we talked with back and forth
01:00:00
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You know, I was constantly in the minority and sometimes I was the whole minority. Uh, but I was trying to do is view it as analytically as possible. And to me, there were four reasons that we didn't make the trade persona or the, uh, and, you know, this, this is the way I look at it. Uh, first is that, and while it may sound funny, but outfield depth and dynamics, and I know people are saying, what are you talking about? But the Cardinals have always had the moniker of a strong defensive outfield.
01:00:29
Speaker
Hence two gold glove outfielders last year in Harrison, Baer, and Tyler O'Neill. Now with Baer on the aisle, Dylan Carlson has been the de facto center fielder. Soto is not on the same level defensively as any of our guys. And that's including Lars Neubar. Nothing against Lars Neubar. But he's no Dylan Carlson, he's no Tyler O'Neill. And Soto ain't even as good as him. So don't tell me we're gonna help our outfield by getting Soto. Help it offensively, Patrick, help it defensively.
01:00:59
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And now, according to most reports, Carlson was tagged as a name to be linked at the top of the Soto trade, or at least one of the names wanted by Washington. I think the other one was Nolan Gorman, of course. But if you traded Carlson, then who placed center field? Do you move O'Neill over? Do you give Nuke Bar the chance? Do you bring up Burleson?
01:01:22
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any one of the three is not really in my mind, it was a good option. And the outfield we have works together pretty well, even with Harrison Bader out. You've got Newt Barr that has been able to fill in in right field lately, and he plays finner a couple days ago. So he can kind of move around a little bit. You've got Corey Dickerson, you've still got some decent outfielders that can play.
01:01:51
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Uh, without having to assign Soto, um, you know, Dickerson probably, I would, I would definitely have Dickerson or excuse me, Soto over Dickerson. I'll get, I'll give you that. Um, but, uh, um, it just, the dynamics to me weren't, weren't there for that. Uh, second is prospects. Okay. Yes. I know you've got to give up prospects at times to get players you need. I get that. Understand it. It's not a problem. Ever say, Oh, Don, you don't want to deal with prospects. No.
01:02:21
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Fine, deal them, but make sure we deal the right ones for the right price. If we give up what was reported to have been, and of course, what reports to be the price usually never is the price. I remember we traded for Nolan Aronado, everybody said it was gonna be Gorman, Libertor, da da da, and we gave up virtually nobody, to tell you the honest truth.
01:02:50
Speaker
Uh, but you know, I know prospects, you got deals and, and we do have a backlog. I mean, right now, that's why Nunez left, uh, because you've got Jordan Walker in front of him and Jordan Walker's got now Nolinara Nado sitting in front of him from the next seven, eight years. You know, so Jordan Walker may have to find a new position, position to play. That's why Gorman's playing second base. He was a third baseman. So I understand the idea that you gotta have that, that you are sometimes will have to deal prospects because you've got a glut of them.
01:03:18
Speaker
But again, when you've got a kid like Walker, who is number six, according to MLB pipeline, number six prospect, and all of baseball, you got to make sure that if you're going to deal him, that you're going to get something A that you need, B that you can use, and C that's going to be there for a while. And that wasn't Juan Soto. Okay. I'm sorry, folks. This is the way it is. Okay.
01:03:45
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Third, priority was going into the season, should have been pitching. It should have been, and I'm gonna say it again, it should have been pitching. Mo did the same thing he did last year, going into the season, oh, we'll just make up for it with guys until people are back, and what has happened? We've got two good starting pitchers, or well until the trade deadline. You had Wainwright, Michaelis, Hudson is struggling, Flaherty is out,
01:04:15
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Oh, he's going to be due back in it. Yeah. Okay. Well, he was due back once and in the, in and of back in the aisle, Stephen Matts was, I thought, and actually I liked signing Stephen Matts in the off season. I thought it was a very good sign. Um, and, but, you know, look at some of the other guys who signed the off season, Drew Verhagen, Mark Whitford.
01:04:36
Speaker
TJ McNaughton, TJ McFarland, I agree with also, uh, I don't know what happened to him, but he's not the pitcher it was last year. Aaron Brooks and Packy Naughton. Now, Naughton has actually worked out, worked out pretty good, but you've had a very ineffective, uh, you play from Verhagen, from Witkren, from McFarland. Um, you know, again, it was, Mo didn't put a priority on the pitching.
01:05:02
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And now he asked, and now we, we were lucky we got what we got. Um, but, uh, at least they addressed that error. And there, the fourth one that I reason I said they weren't going to get Soto and probably actually this should have been the first reason is the inability of the Cardinal front office under John Mazzie like to broker any big mid season deal like that.
01:05:27
Speaker
He historically, he's made a couple, but I'll say he's made a couple. But historically, he does not make a good mid-season big deal or doesn't make one at all as opposed to what we ended up with last year when we got J. Hap and John Lester at the deadline. Now don't get me wrong, they did an okay job. They helped us get into the playoffs.
01:05:53
Speaker
But, I mean, really? That was your big move for last year? And this year, you have to look at it again and say, even though I do like Quintana, I do like Montgomery. I think Montgomery is going to be a steep... I'm going to predict this. I think Montgomery is going to be a better pitcher than what we've got currently in the rotation right now.
01:06:23
Speaker
And I'm talking Wainwright, Michaelis, Hudson, Matts, and Quintana. I think Montgomery, when it's all said and done, it's gonna be better than all five of them. Maybe, well, okay, maybe not, maybe not Wainwright, Wayne knows, Wayne knows, Wayne knows, but I think Montgomery's gonna be the,
01:06:50
Speaker
is going to be one we're going to look back at and say that was a good trade. I really do think that's going to be the case with him. So Jose Quintana, what we got? We got Jose Quintana, 33 old left handers pitched for the White Sox, the Cubs, the Angels, the Giants, the Pirates. He's been around a few times.
01:07:09
Speaker
mostly a 500 picture, 86, 85 record. He is a solid number three type picture though. He's the kind of guy that is going to go out there every fifth day. He's going to get you five, six innings every fifth day. ERA most in the mid threes, sometimes up to the fours. Average strikeout to walk ratio is near three. He has been susceptible to a home run in the past, but this year he does seem to have that under control with only seven home runs allowed in 103 innings.
01:07:38
Speaker
He does have a 45% ground ball rate, which is going to help him with giving our red, the Enfield that the Redbirds have with, with, uh, Aronado and, and whether it's, uh, DeYoung or, or Ed Minnich short or Ed, and, and, and, and either Ed Minnich or Gorman at second or even, um, Donovan at second, and then Goldie at first with that Enfield, you know, 45% ground ball rate. That's, that's gold. Um, he has a 38% hard hit rate, which is good. I mean, it means.
01:08:07
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More soft contact and not is Batter's have against him now. He has a 20% strikeout weight rate, which I could be better But he's not actually also never been a strikeout pitcher He does average like I said over five innings a game. So, you know somebody that you can put In between a Michaelist and a Wayne right to counter you have three solid games of five innings plus
01:08:34
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And I think, uh, the next guy I'm going to call Jordan Montgomery is the same thing. Uh, he's going to get you five, six innings a game. Um, he's a 29 years ago. He's like Quintana 45% ground ball rate. Um, a little bit, uh, strikeout to walk ratio is a little bit better over three. Uh, right now, currently he has a 4.2 strikeout to walk ratio.
01:08:57
Speaker
Very good whip of 1.0 99 a career area 3.9 for which things might be a little high but Given where he was pitching in the Yankee Stadium, you know, I'll take that Now the bullpen piece we got Chris Stratton who came with Quintana. He's a 31 year old right hander He's pitched for the Giants the Angels and the Pirates now his ERAs high, but again, I think
01:09:26
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A lot has to do with where he pitched. He only has about a 40% ground ball rate, but that's still pretty good.
01:09:39
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a near three strike out to walk ratio. And if he can keep his pitches down, if he can learn to get a little bit more ground ball contact, I think he's going to work out very well. Now, of those three, Quintana is a free agent next year.
01:09:58
Speaker
But, uh, Stratton is our arbitration eligible and I believe so as Jordan Montgomery and Stratton won't be. I think until 24, Jordan, Montgomery, Frisian 25. So we've got a couple of years to actually, if they work out, uh, to keep those guys around and they're not that old that we can keep them around for three, four years and get some use out of them. Uh, now as for Jojo Romero.
01:10:20
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A 25-year-old left, he assigned him to AAA Memphis. I think he's just a depth piece. I don't see him really impacting the Major League roster anytime soon. As for what we gave up, Ed Mundo Sosa, a lot of people liked Ed Mundo. I liked Ed Mundo. I think, excuse me, I think he was, he's a very good defensive player, but his primary role was utility and shortstop and with Brendan Donovan,
01:10:50
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Now since we brought the young back up, you've got Edmond can play multiple positions. So having a multiple position light hitting player just, he wasn't needed anymore. So hopefully he'll get a better opportunity to develop into a role player with Philly and we wish him the best. The same, Johanna Aviego has some very good stuff.
01:11:16
Speaker
Um, and I think he's still a candidate. Uh, you just don't know what these enough starter, whether he's a long end bullpen piece. Um, but I think, uh, his defining role was always in a state of flux with St. Louis. I mean, sometimes they wanted him to start. Sometimes it was middle relief. I don't think they could ever make up their mind. Hopefully.
01:11:34
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He'll get to a point where maybe they'll be able to make up his mind or make up a mind in Pittsburgh and give him a role that he can fit into. Malcolm Nunez is the minor league third baseman. Again, like I said, he was blocked by Aronado and Walker. And he's still only 21, so he still has time to develop and get a little bit better. But there was just no real chance for him to advance even beyond AAA, really.
01:12:02
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with St. Louis, so moving in was the best idea. Harrison Bader, I know a lot of people saw when they built that new use. Some people were probably clapping and opening a bottle of champagne. Others were probably looking at their TV screens or looking dumbly at their radar going, what? It's a good move.
01:12:26
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It is a good move. For the Yankees, as I said earlier, I think it gives them a very good center field glue piece to their outfield that's going to help their outfield make their outfield better. I think him leaving for St. Louis means that now we can kind of adjust the outfielders we've got
01:12:51
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Uh, cause you know, we have a couple down in the minors that are, you know, Connor Kapel, uh, Alec Burleson, uh, that are going to be looking for a place to play here pretty soon. Um, so I think maybe, um, having one of those guys, uh, having those guys be able to, you also have Lars Neutbarr, um, you know, I mentioned Corey Dickerson earlier, but, uh, I really don't see Dickerson sticking around. I see a Dickerson leaving, uh, at some point, um,
01:13:18
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So we'll see how the outfield, what the true outfield ends up being here. I think they're still working with that. I know Newt Barr played center in the series against the Yankees. Carlson was back in right. Carlson played very good center field. I think O'Neill in the left, as long as you've got two thirds of that stabilizing outfield that you had before, I think if you put somebody else in center, if you move
01:13:45
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Carlson to center and put some else in right. You're still gonna have a pretty solid outfield So all in all while some may not have liked the idea of not getting a big splashy name in three deadline What mosaic lock in the front office did was address what we needed? We needed pitching they addressed that they got us some decent ones now had they not gotten caught up in the whole Juan Soto deal could they have
01:14:10
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gotten better pitching quite possibly I think there were some deals out there that could have been made I you know but you know Castillo for one I don't know if the Reds would have traded him in division like that but you know you could have maybe done a three-way deal somehow to get him I don't know but I think they just got too caught up in the Soto deal and then by the time they realized that they were actually out of it they had to scramble to kind of figure it up and he still came out okay
01:14:39
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And I don't, you know, am I, am I saying this guarantees us a playoff or a division or a world series? No, I've never guaranteed that. Uh, but I think we're a better team now than we were before August 2nd. I really do. I really, really do. Hey, uh, I got to get out of here. It's I appreciate you guys for sticking around so long. Thanks for listening. As always go to gateway city sports, check out the articles in the podcast, check out the show's website at talking sports.
01:15:09
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