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Ohio State vs. Indiana, Broncos vs. Seahawks & NFL First-Quarter Awards

BALL and BUDS
BALL and BUDS

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Speaker: You can't pretend. Now get ready for the show.

Speaker: Yo, yo, yo, what up, friends? Welcome back, Ball and Bunch. Wait, were we just here? Were we just here two seconds ago? I think we were. I think Hot Take Jake and I were here just a couple minutes ago.

Speaker: With some total evisceration. Hope you enjoyed me. Putting that beat to eight. Belt your ass. belt is Usually done. And don't worry. Another belt to ask is coming right now. Because I got my other brother on that been getting.

Speaker: Oh! yeah up up all Should have heard it, guys. He was slopping his knob the whole time. i couldn't believe it don't do that No. wo cause you bought You about to get yours right now. You about to get what's coming to you. Bye now.

Speaker: So I'm going to introduce him first. Because you were on the last show. Our brother. Wow. CORE! Ma, what's good, buddy? Yeah, ah yeah. Wish you great, my friend.

Speaker: I ain't really got a gripe, but as always, a pleasure to be here talking with my podcast brothers. Big O in the house, sports professor. What's up, bro? Oh! Oh! shit

Speaker: What up? Eh. It is who I think that he is. It what is Did is singing Hey! That little big brother. No, it ain't.

Speaker: Ladies and gentlemen. Hey. So for those that know what I do, I do it. Chiefs podcast every Tuesday. 6 .30 p .m. Central Standard Time with my boy Chris now. Arrowhead Chief Podcast. That's the name of it.

Speaker: High letters, all right. uh We had my brother hot take Jake on. Speak what? And... He was previewing Chiefs vs. Broncos. Matter of fact, it was a Tuesday before week one, so... That's at least what.

Speaker: six, seven days before the game even started. Hey, my man, and y 'all know Jake. He was talking hella records, talking all the cold cash shit in the world. And... Not only did they lose, they got 18 -8. Bill. He's here.

Speaker: You don't say it. It's my first time seeing a take in almost two months, y 'all. i thought something had happened to you i was worried about you i was asking oh i was like Hey, wait bro, matter of fact, I even messaged you, put the eyeballs in there, be like, yo, I'm trying to find him. Where you at? I ain't get no response. I ain't get nothing. I was about to call the police.

Speaker: I was about to call SEAL Team 6. I was like, hey, man. Y 'all head down. Be a lad. I know y 'all can find Hot Take Check. They said, bruh, we can't do shit. we don't We ain't seen them. that we don't know. We ain't got wein't gotten not a crumb, not a piece of evidence. Or where's whereabouts? Nothing. We we ain't seen nothing.

Speaker: Hey, Jake. I'm just glad to see you, man. Hey, what's that on your hat? What's that on your hat? What that say? We got the big Bronco on it. Okay, okay. So you're still rocking with him, huh? Okay, okay. Absolutely.

Speaker: Hey, hey! I appreciate it. I appreciate you stick staying ten toes down. loyal to the soil. ah But hey, man, just do me a favor, man. Hey, don't call don't go missing after talking a whole bunch of cold cash shit. already we Hey, we want you to come around. a Matter of fact, you were supposed to come back on the show.

Speaker: Lay down, man. hey man i think go phone I didn't get the invitation. I didn't get the invite. That's crazy, man. a Good to see you, my brother. I'm glad you you were alive and well, man. I was worried about you.

Speaker: Hot word. yeah'm glad i'm I'm glad for your concern. I'm very glad. and i was At the same time. I was so concerned. ah was so ceo sir That's what you get when you turn into any given sacrifice. You're going to get this trash talk all day, baby. Yes, them Broncos took the belt to ass. And so Mar got to make sure that Jake eats his crow.

Speaker: So that being said, y 'all make sure you subscribe on YouTube at BallinBuds, B -A -L -L -A -N -D. BUDS handy QR code up there at the top. Take you to all our social media. subscribe on youtube follow on instagram uh hit that like button whether watching now or on the replay helps us all out here in the algorithm and smash that notification bell so you know when we go live Because you never know when we may be live. But we are live tonight with my brother, Wild Card Mark.

Speaker: and hot take jake you saw hot take jake on the last program you know where to find him right here Well, Garmar, where can they find you? Amen. Go ahead, jump on that Twitter, KCWildcardMind. That's where I got all my stuff at, man, because I be having a whole bunch of content, but just just jump jump up in there.

Speaker: Word up. All right. Well, we only got an hour before the game, so we got to get through here quick. Flo will be joining us shortly. He's getting off work late, but we're going to do the game picks first. because I can get those from him written and we'll save the debates for when he gets here. So let's kick this bad boy off college.

Speaker: Football. Picks for the week. Now, you know. since Maher is on the show. I had to give Miz in those picks since they're playing in the ranked game. But I do want everybody to know.

Speaker: The games this weekend are going to be amazing. Six. Top 25 ranked games. One short of the record. Oh my God. have Me too, brother. It's going to be so good.

Speaker: but we had to pick What do you think? voice him I just want to start. out with more spirit Peace. Peace. gory. versus number nine, Ole Miss. Now, I would like to preface this.

Speaker: with the last time. While Karma was on this show. I know. The football gods. somehow took care of him. After he decided to go against his own.

Speaker: Tigers. Talk about it. Matter of fact, it went well on Airhead Chief Podcast. I went against my Chiefs and it worked. I was going to say that too, but I didn't want to give you... anyone I wish the football gods would have struck you down for that nonsense. Hey! i a I'm going to stick with the mojo.

Speaker: Hey. I'm a 13 Mizzou. Unfortunately. It's going to be hot toddy in that thing. Hey, Ole Miss is rolling. Ole Miss is rolling. And as much as I love my M -I -Z -Z -O -U.

Speaker: Hey man, Ole Miss is, yeah man, and in the way that they ah beat up on LSU. And the way that Ole Miss is beating up on everybody, matter of fact. That's true. lord I think I tried to warn you about Ole Miss.

Speaker: I remember that. Hey, hey, Trinidad Chambliss. Aye. Uh... If your name is not... ah You know, Jeremiah Smith. It's probably the only name outside of Jeremiah Smith that I might put up there right now. with shoe -in of the Heisman Trophy winner.

Speaker: and that's trinidad champions he's balling right now so ah Yeah, give me Old Man Hot. I didn't in mud, man. That's what we doing. i don't like it i don't like you going against your team to try to do the reverse sports jinx I don't know.

Speaker: Boom! Oh, yeah, whatever. Anyways, but you're right. Ole Miss is technically. the better team trinidad chambliss is the better quarterback out of whoever. honey like yeah day Hey, whoa, don't don't do my man Austin Simmons like that. Matter of fact, he's...

Speaker: started before he got hurt. And Trinidad took over and did his thing. Hey, we also got former Ole Miss. wide receiver Caden Lee, who's over there leading the SEC in receivers.

Speaker: Thank you. Hey, we're doing some things out here in Columbia, Mizzou. But, hey, you know. Uh, I got to stick with the program, man. is Let's go Ole Miss, man.

Speaker: Yeah, I'm going to go with the Ole Miss on that one. I'll take Jake. Who you got? Look. Ole Miss doesn't stay undefeated forever. Pulled up a stat. I think this is actually an upset.

Speaker: I think Mizzou wins this game, all -time record. I looked this up already. Missouri is actually 7 -1 against Ole Miss. Wow! Good song. I think.

Speaker: Ole Miss. has been feeling themselves a little too much. They're going to take a step back. just like my longhorns did last week that barely got lucky bull crap happened But...

Speaker: I think overall, Mizzou will win this game. Their running game will attack, and they will do their thing. They win this game 24 -13. 24 -13. I don't like how you have sports professor stats before I give mine out, but I'll give it to you. oh One thing you didn't mention, Mar, is Ole Miss running back.

Speaker: uh probably one of the best in the nation if not the best kawan lacy actually started with y 'all before transferring. last season so that's something they got on their side look in the last two weeks The Tigers have looked great. against Florida and against Texas A and &M. When you had the illusion.

Speaker: to Florida. They came out and put BTA by like it. 28 points, I believe it was. so um Look, while Mizzou was not the team that... most people thought about at the beginning of the year.

Speaker: I think that The people you mentioned on that team. uh you know shimmings uh and and and lee I've helped. um to get them back. to where at least competitive in what is going to be a tough SEC. Three losses in the SEC will still get you into the championship. or into the playoffs.

Speaker: Yep. All right, let's move it on to the next game, Notre Dame and BYU. I take Jake. We'll start with you on this one. Number two versus number eight. Huge game here. Who you got?

Speaker: I've been on the Notre Dame bandwagon and I'm not getting off of yet. Notre Dame will win this game soundly. BYU is okay. But they ain't Notre Dame. And let me tell you something. They have an easier conference. They have not faced anybody tough yet.

Speaker: Get ready Because when you go to the damn Fighting Irish, you're going to get beat up. There's a reason why they do that. And that's their their motto. Because they do that all day. And they're going to do it again. So I got Notre Dame winning. Soundly.

Speaker: 38 -7. It's about to be an ass kick. Wow! 38 -7, bro. They're playing Spade. You can go there, right? Huh? They're playing at BYU. You know that. Don't matter. No matter to me.

Speaker: I know what Notre Dame is. BYU can't sniff what the hell they're building over there. I mean, I agree they're not as good of a team, but damn, 31 points? Mar, do you agree with that? Hey. This ain't too many times that me and Jake don't agree. Oh, no.

Speaker: Hey, the Golden Domers is going to put them cougars down to sleep. It don't matter if it was in BYU, Notre Dame. On Mars, Venus. Pluto. It don't matter.

Speaker: It's going to be an ass whooping. I'm sorry. but you say Have you seen the defense of the Golden Domers? Hey, them Cougars ain't going to have nothing for that defense. It it it might get ugly.

Speaker: Quick! It's going to get ugly. It's not a matter if he will. it's just is gonna be a matter of how soon it's gonna be ugly i think it's gonna get ugly Quick. And I think i think the bookies agree with you. BYU is a 10 .5 -point underdog at home.

Speaker: That's horrible. You shouldn't have a top 10 team. You should not be that far down in the odds. uh in the spread so I mean, the bookies agree with y 'all. So, Notre Dame it is for all three of us. All right, cool.

Speaker: Let's move it on to that last game in college. they'll though Probably the biggest one for everybody. uh because i know a lot of teams think Ohio State and Indiana are better than BYU, obviously.

Speaker: So Ohio State number four. versus number five, Indiana. Mar, we're back to you on this one. Who you got in this game of the week? Hey. I love from Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker: I think he's phenomenal. wo madam a that He might be a... the number one overall pick. When it comes, it should be. Should be.

Speaker: I know it ain't going to be no quarterback in Texas. that's gonna be god what bull shit You better that down there real quick there, buddy. No. Uh... But, uh... Look. as much as I love Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker: And as much as I love what he's going to do in the NFL. He should walk away with that Heisman trophy. Mwah. T -shirt? I believe in Curt Cignetti.

Speaker: He already had a blueprint on how to defeat Ohio State and he did it. in actually convincing fashion in my... ah opinion last year. They they controlled that game. Indiana controlled that game.

Speaker: 1310. They control the game. yeah like Like, your defense controlled that game. You can say whatever Fernando Mendoza couldn't do on ah offense. It is what it is.

Speaker: I know what I saw. I saw a defense. that it's shut down. a high powered Ohio State offense, and that was included with Jeremiah Smith on that team. So. Probably being sick.

Speaker: I got to rock with the fighting Cignettis. And let's go. Yeah, look, I mean, that they they met. uh obviously in the playoffs last year in the championship big ten championship too and they're gonna they're gonna do it again this year Probably. Most likely, they're both going to be the teams in the Big Ten Championship. so We're going to see this matchup again. yeah and we'll see and we'll see how much they grow no but i agree with you mar i think that uh

Speaker: I mean, i I agree that I think they're not scared. I just think I agree with you that Jeremiah Smith is the playmaker here. He's the best. player on the field. And while Indiana has a great defensive front.

Speaker: Um... When you put the pairing of a grown -up Julian who's gotten better this year, much better, um and improved with what you mentioned should be the Heisman Trophy winner and the number one.

Speaker: draft pick. um it's not much that the D is going to be able to do, in my opinion, to slow them down in terms of Ohio State's offense, which I also believe is much better than a... Josh Hoover. led Indiana offense. um is's He's not Fernando Mendoza. which is I guess really what scares me here. But I'm going to take Ohio State. Jake, who you got?

Speaker: Mmm. ah Well, let me say this. It'll be close. I think it'll be close. Seven, field goal, something like that. Go ahead. Let me tell you something man. There's a difference.

Speaker: being the hunter. and being hunted. Mmm! Ryan Day. Sat there. on his ass. Losing that damn game. Pissed off.

Speaker: And I should have known this with other games. that you brought up earlier. But in those games You have to understand. when you are being hunted. and all they do all off season. is study you. I felt the Broncos dealt with that with you -know -who in the week one.

Speaker: They were being studied all over. The same way I feel. that Ohio State Study the shit out of Indiana. and they know everything they're gonna do.

Speaker: before they do it now. Ryan Day wins this game 21 -21. to seven. And he lets you know and lets everybody know. That was a little Cinderella story, buddy.

Speaker: But let me tell you something. <unk> lain and Cinderella don't happen twice. It don't happen twice in this lifetime. So Ryan Day will take rightfully. What is his?

Speaker: and take back this conference. Come on now. Let's call a spade a spade. All right. But we'll see what happens. It's going to be an amazing weekend in college football. I can't wait. My bad to everybody in the comments.

Speaker: uh i got started with that first topic and then i couldn't stop to get to the comments So yes, I do see the comments. Shout out Rock Chalk. Everybody tune in to the Best True Crime Podcast on YouTube. Rock Chalk. Love. Louder. Alan Perala is in the chat. My bad, brother. Look at this hater. Earlier.

Speaker: Says, what's up? Might, uh, says, basically horns down. is what he wanted to get across this boy was live scrying on facebook uh random and saying we need to change qbs and lucked out on some BS.

Speaker: And now he's over here screaming around. Oh man. Hey, real talk, AP, you was down bad, dog. I see some of your messages on on on Twitter. How dare you?

Speaker: You were down bad. Oh, man. And then of a sudden, man, tears, this, he, that. And then all of a sudden. It'll be a boomer sooner. Jumped out of nowhere.

Speaker: you would have thought his cat puddles died and then out of nowhere He just found out he's getting married tomorrow. Boomer Sooner. Yeah. Hey, you were down bad. That's great. I'll be there, dog. You're going to get called out, AP, if you come out here like that. You know that. Shut up. Shut up, Ben -H9T6W. Thank you, brother. Yeah, I did see you in the chat.

Speaker: My bad. I apologize again that, ah yeah, I got right into the topic. and you know when i'm in the middle of the topic i usually don't do comments because it's usually questions But, yeah, justice for them. We'll see. We'll see. BYO upset. He calls. ah Hot Rod said, what up, fella?

Speaker: He said he likes Ohio State. There you go. AP says if Nebraska could get points. against your Indiana. Who says that Ohio State can't? That's what I'm saying. I mean, I think Ohio State.

Speaker: Offense is much better than Indiana's defense. That's just my take. Um... ah hot Hot Rod liked your take, Jake, said going with you. Canteen's always asking Jake what he's smoking. And it's probably not that loud back, to be honest. Probably some Reggie.

Speaker: But yeah we we we'll let Jake do what he does. Let's move it on. to our NFL picks. For the week. So this weekend, we got our Thursday night.

Speaker: so Sunday night and Monday night games. Let's go ahead and start off with that Thursday night game. That is tonight. That is you, Hot Jake Jake. This is your account, Lee Bronk. Booze.

Speaker: Hosting the Seahawks. Who you got? Well... I mean, I know you got, but... i never no no you don't know who i got actually oh this is horrific No way!

Speaker: this is sad this is sad because we're walking in this game With no Pastor Tan. Are you doing it? With Nohufunga, with no ah Riley Moss.

Speaker: He ain't gonna do it. He ain't gonna do it. And yet somehow... We have to do the unthinkable. and beat JSN without it. It hurts me, guys.

Speaker: It hurts me. and And I'm pained right now. Today is a moment of truth. Today, We will lose. It hurts! Hold on!

Speaker: He's trying to do monster college. No, no, no, no, no. Because here's what we do need to do though, Omar, because this is it. This is the last of it. See, we've gone through the heaviest gauntlet you could think of.

Speaker: We had to go through the the five top five best opponents. recently. We had to go one by one in this gauntlet. And we're now three and two. And in all honesty, it's bullshit what the NFL did to us. But we're about to finally get out of it.

Speaker: Man, we got the same schedule. Yeah, yeah. Y 'all got a gauntlet coming up. Don't worry. They they gave y 'all some pipsqueaks earlier. The dolphins. Who else did you get to see? some Some bum teams, bro. But!

Speaker: We're in the same division. We got the same schedule. ghost i one goes lets Let me tell you something right now. All three of us in the same division. We all get the same schedule. What? What? We got them all back to back, Omar. You get to rest between the Rams and the Niners. We don't get to do that. It was right right back to back. We're fighting them all. but Just punching! Everything!

Speaker: Hey. Tonight is not a game to win. But tonight is finally, I don't know who I've been watching out there. In fact, I've been crying my eyes out. Because that that number 10.

Speaker: but That's an imposter right now. That's why that's an That's not both. But don't you worry. Bo is well on his way, and he's coming in his time. So tonight we will lose.

Speaker: But we're going to lose the bold fashion. We're going to lose. a heavyweight fight. No defense. No defense. We're gonna need both. And we're going to need both for the future, and it's time.

Speaker: We're going to lose 33 -35. Yeah, boy, let's misses a kick. Yes. Yes Bro, you're not scoring 35 points. That's wild. But Bo's mojo is back.

Speaker: because he will slang and bang and throw and go. to anybody he can. at any time today. oh We need you, Bo. And after this...

Speaker: I'm telling you right now, Mar, this is the last loss we're going to see in a while. because we about to get on a run, buddy. You bet. Hey. You're going to have a good three -game lead. But boy, oh boy, it's gonna get closer. We already saw what the Raiders are. We saw that ass kicking.

Speaker: They're not worried about them. boy but I was laughing my ass off when I saw the, yo, we're now talking to the Raider pli guys. I don't know who else was with o o Omar that day, but I was watching that pod. That guy was talking like the Raiders been good. and It's always been between us two. What's he been at the past 20 years? That team sucks. Get out of here. I'm calling a spade a spade. That was embarrassing.

Speaker: to hear that the goal of him to say that with the straightest face too and y 'all sat there and you and you and what's his name yeah yeah yeah just loving it what the hell Y 'all were kissing his ass. I couldn't believe it. It was embarrassing.

Speaker: How dare you? you know luke You know who you're afraid of. You know, if we are at our best. Who can take over the AFC West? Tonight it starts now. We need both.

Speaker: Bo, we need you, bro. It's time to come back. Hey. Fuck that not wearing the black eye paint. We need the eye paint back, bro. Put it on! Black Eyed Paint Bo is the most scariest thing you can see on a damn football field. He comes back tonight. We lose 33 -35, though. because of our injuries sam donald's lucky he's not playing a top -tier defense today He's lucky.

Speaker: He is so lucky. But don't worry. though We're coming. When you please. Stop! slobbing the knob of Bo Nix at some point in time. you will realize that he is not a good quarterback. He had a good rookie year. As most rookies do, they come out, no one knows how to game plan. For them, they get they're able to to get better stats than they normally would. And then you see Tyler Shuck.

Speaker: Second year, now he's not as good as the first year. It's the same thing. Bo Nix has been steadily regressing. since his first year in the league. And he's just not good. You're talking about 33 points? Bro, y 'all averaged 19 .4 points on the season. 26 in the NFL. Where do you get 33 from? It's boat time.

Speaker: Marv, talk some sense into this man. Hey, trying to talk sense to Jake is almost... ah I don't think that's feasible, but... ah I'll try my best.

Speaker: okay yes Now, Jake. I tried to tell you, my man. I tried to tell you. that it it just both ain't the fix, all right? He got a couple strings loose on that bow and arrow. row right and it ain't fact Aggression ain't shooting too right. All right.

Speaker: Now. He can make some plays. I'll i'll give him. Oh. ah The credit, hey, you know, four quarter miles. It's just quarters one, two, and three. He look like straight ass. You gotta... to make sure that the team's in within contention.

Speaker: Come 440. It ain't. he I don't care what he's doing them for. he came be He can't get the game for you. but I give him credit. he he He loved the clutch. i I think he needs to play.

Speaker: Like that all the time. Just play from behind. Yeah. Playing good. Because obviously he plays better. with his back against the wall. but Injuries, yeah. Now, it's Seahawks. Let's just...

Speaker: We make this simple. It's Seahawks. They the better team. And... They got the better quarterback. I thought I'd never meet. here to say that Sam Darnold was a better quarterback. And here we are. Here we are.

Speaker: Seahawks get the dog. Seahawks get the dub. Yeah, I agree. Nothing more to say there. All the gentlemen said it. Denver's just not. as good as the team is hot take jake would like to believe we're injuries right now don't do that yeah whatever Injuries, sminjuries. We all deal with injuries. 49ers got more injuries than y 'all, and they're 5 -0. I don't want to hear that shit.

Speaker: Cowboys at Packers Sunday night. Flo will be on in just a second, so we'll get to him last. But go ahead. Jake, who you got in this one? I know you're a Jordan love stand.

Speaker: Well, J Love Live is looking like J Love Live or once again. love. J Love Live is looking like J Love Live. And let me tell you something. I've been trying to tell people that the best quarterback in that division is J Love Live. I know everybody wants to jump on Caleb's. ah You know what?

Speaker: But I ain't doing that. i've been on j love live since the get -go and i'll stay on there that boy is doing his thing Let me say this and let me say this once. Guys, it is not good to hear that you are having an all team meeting.

Speaker: Shit. In week six. Right? Yep. That's definitely not Yup. Boy, but I don't care what that coach is saying. That idiot is over there saying, Schottenheimer? He's over there thinking that. Hey, man, I'm proud of them. No, no, no.

Speaker: Shame on you, Dec! For playing so poorly. And I heard he fired that guy. did Is that true? Did he fire his ass? For calling a spade a spade? And telling him, hey, dude.

Speaker: Terrible. What did he say? He said pathetic, right? Oh, that's what he said. The gall of you, Dak. You couldn't take that, bro? You couldn't take that? How dare you?

Speaker: that's a slap in the face man I'm calling a spade a spade. Packers should win this and will win this. I got 2413. And Cowboys better start, uh... Looking into the draft here soon.

Speaker: Dak's lat days should be numbered. I'm sorry. Hmm. Wow. You're not the only one that that might be saying that. A lot of Cowboys fans may be so feeling that way. We'll find out from Flo in just a second. But let's get to Mar first. See you guys in this game. Cowboys and Packers.

Speaker: Hey. um'm I'm with Hot Take. Hey.

Speaker: It's not just the fact that... Dak is kind of... I don't know what how he's playing. He's kind of playing... not up to the standard that we're used to. Right. Bye. But...

Speaker: It's the defense. Hey! Horrible. That's so... Big bag of goods, man. Y 'all stole me. Because I was one of them people... All summer.

Speaker: leading up to week one. Amen. Better watch out for them Cowboys. They're making moves on their defense. They're improving it. They actually putting resources on there. They got it. They it.

Speaker: And y 'all got the nerves to go out there still looking like straight cheeks. It's embarrassing. i I can't fall for it no more. And we do know.

Speaker: that Jordan Love actually plays the best when he sees that star. He sure does. He sure does. He love cooking them. Um... Y 'all got the bad defense at the wrong time.

Speaker: That boy might put a damn 45 on y 'all, on y 'all head. it. Head top. Give me J -Love in the pack, man. Go, Pat, go. I mean, look, man, I know we're going to get to Flo and he's going to... have his cowboys take and you you know flo is usually reasonable but i talk to a lot of cowboys fans this week.

Speaker: and none of them are picking the Cowboys to win this game. um Look, you defense is is is booty juice, man. Meh. And I said that when everybody was hyping him up and doing everything like Mar was talking about, I was like, man, y 'all tripping. They're going to be the same bad defense they were last year. They are. They're going to be out here in their spurs. And they're assless chaps.

Speaker: just Just dripping booty juice all over the field. So... I mean, we'll see what happens, but let's ask the Cowboys, Redding and Cowboys fan. Thanks for showing up. I know you just got off workflow, so appreciate you, brother. Go ahead, let us know.

Speaker: Uh oh. Is he muted? Is it the Mute Master? Is he on delay?

Speaker: Can he not hear us at all? i don't know uh -oh Not sure what's happening. ah that That's that old Cowboys juju, man. Oh, the Cowboys blackout. No, no, nothing for Flo. We're going to have to get back to him when he gets ready. All right, let's move on to the other game while he is doing that.

Speaker: 49ers commanders. Who you got, Jake?

Speaker: Come on, man. Is this game even a child? I don't know how they're like, what the hell is this? Ah! Yeah. First off, I think Micah's right. I think this guy's days are numbered Dan. Dan Quinn. We'll see you later, buddy. Me being numbered. We'll see you later, buddy. um uh that was horrific what i saw last week i've never seen that in NFL history.

Speaker: um How do you... Give yourself a tie. Yeah, that was stupid. so Usually a tie you kiss. A stepsister? He kissed his real sister. I'm calling a spade a spade. That was embarrassing.

Speaker: That boy don't get nothing. He don't get no ass. I'm calling a spade a spade. That was embarrassing. going on i don't know where you're going now so i know Ah! I'm pissed off right now. Oh, it's a bad Muse Bears reference. Remember that.

Speaker: Uh... As I was saying, the the the commanders Look.

Speaker: Jaden! It's starting to annoy me. Oh. I don't know what's going on with him. Where he thinks he's all this in a bag of chips? But you ain't done shit in a while, buddy.

Speaker: And you keep getting injured. So let me tell you something. This is a game he needs to win. If he wants to prove that he's still one of them ones... He needs to win this game.

Speaker: Now. The Niners look good It's still October. I understand it. But I do believe that Jaden Daniels and the Commanders will lose soundly. And not too, I'm going to go 28.

Speaker: 10. 2810. i don't think this is a good game at all is this this is monday night football Yeah, Monday night. Yep. I'll be watching Monday Night Raw. Bye. i my data Oh, I didn't know this was happening. Thanks.

Speaker: Yes, this is Monday night, yeah, in San Francisco. um I agree. I don't think the commander is staying a chance here in this game, having to go across the country. But, Mar, what do you think? No, I'm with Jake again. Like, ugh.

Speaker: It's green. This is a disgusting matchup, man, first of all. i don't like this matchup at all it's too entertaining but There's one team that can actually play well when they injury. and one team that just looks like straight cheeks when they are injured. so Right. I got to go 49ers on this one. Hey, man, can we just give Kyle Shannon his props?

Speaker: It don't matter who who he field. Next man up. Everybody getting hurt. He said, oh, man. 8. It don't matter. I got the keys right here.

Speaker: ah We got it. I'm the guy. Kyle Shanahan is the guy. i You just need to win the big one. If he can find a way to stop her, you know. Even ways too cold.

Speaker: might be the best coach in in the world. but You can't do that. so but Regular season. That man knows how to get a team that's hurt. to the playoffs, man, and he's going to mess around and do it again this year.

Speaker: Wow. All right. There you go. Well, hey, we can finally hear Flo. Flo, don't worry about all the rest of the game picks. You can just send them to me. in the chat. The one we want you for is obviously your game.

Speaker: to give us your cowboys packers take uh for tonight or for sunday night

Speaker: Well... i i'm I'm glad I didn't hear everything Jake had to say. It's a lot of hot hair hot air going out in the air. Go. I'm glad um I missed almost all that. I just heard. well What the - Yep.

Speaker: Made it! Made it! Boop! Spade to spade, I heard it like six times. ah that's part hispiel That's part of his spiel. that's how That's how he says, that's how he says, I'm serious. I'm serious.

Speaker: he says Wow, you can do that from everywhere today, JT Louise. But, yeah. I don't have... A whole lot of confidence in the Cowboys bit based on what I've seen. And so...

Speaker: But... The only thing I do have is... Decades of experience. with the Dallas Cowboys. And. I've always said that this goes back to, I think it's it's a jimmy johnson curse he's supposed to put him in the ring of honor long long ago Uh...

Speaker: So. Could be what it is. I don't know. But anyway... ah Yeah, I don't have a lot of confidence. Defense, you know, we got a rookie defensive coach. They brought in some guy that he was with the Packers with long ago to help him. He's going to go up in the booth, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker: Maybe it helps. He's definitely showing some of that. and but You know, I don't blame him completely because I think... if i As I've looked at this, you know, the the defensive line,

Speaker: has been not performing. they have they I look at them and and they're not giving their all ah effort. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's just... hey i'm here with the cowboys and i'm gonna chill and i'm just gonna make my money and Make my endorsements because, you know, everybody can can get endorsements with the Cowboys, you know. That's definitely true. And so.

Speaker: and so you know i don't know what it is maybe they just Maybe this woke him up. Losing to the to the Bucks? I don't know. ah But... We'll see in this game. I feel like...

Speaker: We always lose. I think it was last year we lost to the Cardinals, the game we shouldn't have lost. ah We always lose the games we shouldn't lose over the decades. You also always lose to the Packers.

Speaker: so Yeah. i mean we always yeah that's true that that there's there's some truth to that But at the same time... Two things. can be true at the same time. Okay. I think that...

Speaker: Dak always has a bounce back game. But if he's had that he did, I mean he threw for 300 yards, but he did have a couple picks One of them I can't. put on him, you know. Ferguson just...

Speaker: Just let it go through his hands and up in the up in the air, an interception, but... ah We had a chance to win that game, but we should we shouldn't have had to go to the end of the... into the game for that. so I think Jordan Love.

Speaker: Had a great game. And Jordan Love always does the opposite. He always has a... bad game after a really good game. And Dak bounces the other way. if you look at both of their careers. And then, of course, everybody's picking against us. And so...

Speaker: I'm going to pick... for the Cowboys because we're not supposed to win this game. So we always do the opposite. A lot of times we lose the ones we're not supposed to and we win the ones we're not supposed to. And so...

Speaker: I'm going to pick the us to win this game. you know put some of that behind us It's not going to necessarily say this season, but I feel like we're going to win this game. It'll be a close one back and forth. It's not going to be probably high scoring.

Speaker: ah in the high 20s. We have to count boys by three. Cowboys by three is definitely going to be high scoring. um i think it'll still be kind of close just because.

Speaker: I don't believe Green Bay's. Defense is is that great either, even with Micah. Right. But... Yeah, they seem to always have your number. And so I don't see it being any different this time around. um i'm a group yeah We've never met with Dak on a low coming off a low. And...

Speaker: love going coming off a high. We have met in that situation. Okay. And that's that's the two things that I feel it's going to cancel on each other. Does that make sense? All right. That's how we're going to win. yeah There you go. All right, well, that's our resident Cowboys fan, Koshy Phillip. Shout out, thank you for tuning in. And everybody, make sure you hit that like button. uh help us out in the algorithm uh flo i will get the rest of your picks

Speaker: from you on the chat because we do have to keep going. We've got a game in 30 minutes, but we do want to pick our locks and our upsets of the week. That's the R2 -DU. So who is ready with their lock and upsets? Is everybody ready?

Speaker: Hmm. I'm getting late. All right. Go ahead, Flo. Since you just got on, we'll start with you. What are your locks and upsets? Remember the lock must cover the spread.

Speaker: And your upset has to be a seven plus NFL or 10 plus. College underdog that wins. Oh. Okay.

Speaker: Um... Alright. I'll do it. I didn't know if I was quite ready. Oh if you're not, we can go with Jake. If you're not ready. No, that's fine. I'll do it. Log of the week. Cover spread. I believe the Niners.

Speaker: Or 7 .5, but that's not my... ah upset. I just think the Niners are playing well, even though they're hurt. One thing I will give... Shanahan, ah a lot of credit for is he's always come. brought in the right defensive coordinator.

Speaker: He's always been the right guy. to play defense and to... be able to adjust when there's injuries and things like that. So I'll give him the shout out that he's always been able to bring in the right guy.

Speaker: Uh... to do that. and work around those injuries they've all they're always injured but they seem to be Still playing well. Brock Purdy's I think this is You know, he's having probably his best season.

Speaker: he's ever had so this is kind of an anomaly And so... Uh, I always say you always take the... The quarterback's best season. The worst season, throw him out. And whatever he is be in between, that's what he is. and So this is one of his this is his best seasons. So he won't have another one like this. So this is kind of the 49ers window right now. Assuming there's not any major injuries, any more major injuries too. to people.

Speaker: so So I got them winning. I think they'll they'll cover... I think it's a lock. They're going to beat the Commanders. The Commanders coming off, ah you know. Everybody knows the the clock thing and a tie that shouldn't have been a tie and all that. I'm i'm sure Jake talked about that.

Speaker: But. Yeah. I got them the at the lock of the week. They're going to. They're going to. It's not going to be pretty, I don't think. I guess the commander. And then the upset of the week. I got my upset of the week and I believe it's...

Speaker: I don't think the line is moving, but... I got BYU over Notre Dame. Hoop! We still don't know. We still don't know who Notre Dame is. I don't think we really know who they are.

Speaker: Uh... You know, they both got good defense, but legitimately, BYU's got a legitimate defense. so We'll see if that Notre Dame ah offense is... he's good he's really good ah you know, and see who they really are. And I think BYU is legit.

Speaker: And so... I think they're going to ah You know, the Missouri run game. Uh, from the... ah i was gonna say um They got that kind of kind of run game.

Speaker: Uh... And so I think, it you know... They're going to surprise a few people and then it'll put BYU on the map. It'll put the Big 12 on the map. And I think that.

Speaker: Don't upset him. I don't think it'll be it's gonna be close. It's going to be close. But that's a tough place to play. You know, they're at home. And so... We'll see. i got I got them winning over Notre Dame.

Speaker: All right, yeah, BYU, 10 .5 -point underdogs. That is his upset of the week. Both of those work. Good job there, my friend, on the quick fly. I appreciate you. But, yes. To go back to one thing you said, Jake did talk about this and I had to...

Speaker: I was doing some other stuff, i trying to make sure the technicals were good. But... The commander's completely roiled. screwed that up. And I don't even know how you do that. I know Peach...

Speaker: who's a Commanders fan, shout out to Sunday Showdown. and They're probably on right now. You can tune over and watch them after us. I mean they're all taking the blame. He mentioned that. Yeah, but he mentioned that obviously that's ah that's a problem that comes from Dan Quinn not teaching his team.

Speaker: properly because either you don't you know you don't have timeouts but also in overtime a field goal right there ends the game So why are you trying to waste time off the clock? Just kick the fucking field goal.

Speaker: I feel that was more the quarterbacks. I don't think he should have ran that. I think he ran that, didn't think, and then he didn't throw it away. He should have just thrown it away. And he didn't. And then he got tackled. And then I don't know where his head was after that because he wasn't rushing to get up.

Speaker: it was it I think the I put that more on the QB. No urgency. yeah No urgency at all. all right mar i just want to say that real quick because i can get say it earlier mar who you got yeah Locking up. oh For sure, for sure. um For me.

Speaker: Uh... Look, I was just looking at the line. And... i I... I just gotta... Just gotta... Let you guys down easy. and and this team right here.

Speaker: Alright. Chargers. Milwaukee. No, no, no. um and For college football. No chargers, I was about to say. who no no No, my bad. ah for It's a lot. so Georgia's a 19 .5 point favorite.

Speaker: I think there are a lot to it. nice i talking George is good mmm Number one team. They got the number one marker. And. I know it's an SEC game, but Auburn just doesn't. I think they're void of talent. I think they void them. that presides to be a good SEC team.

Speaker: So that 19 and a half, they look crazy to most SEC heads. Not to me. I think Georgia's that talented. I liked it. And I think they're going to ragdoll Auburn on Saturday. All right.

Speaker: ah that's that's That's my lot for sure. ah My upset. Now this sounds weird. Because, like, I don't think they're going to win but because of the line. They got the... Chiefs the eight and a half point favorite over the Chargers.

Speaker: Now, I know what people are thinking. Chargers are 0 -5. Okay. But let me remind y 'all, me being a lifelong Chiefs fan, I've always seen the Chiefs always play down to their opponent. And not only do they play down to their opponent,

Speaker: This is a division opponent, so they know the team very well. All right. That defense is still legit with the Chargers. Bye. I get beers. Question marks on the offensive side. Justin Herbert needs to do something. in They got to get the running game going. I understand that.

Speaker: But that defense is still legit. Khalil Mack still has a heartbeat. Derwin James still has a heartbeat. And they are still all pro. There's an APB on him. No, they still balling on that defensive side. They just ain't getting no help from that. that so -called pretty boy called quarterback called Justin Herbert.

Speaker: But look. they Eight and a half point favorite. See you, Troy. I don't buy it because division games... Y 'all know how we get down in the AFT West. We got to throw them. Rick is out. been built, man.

Speaker: ah We almost saw the Chargers beat the Broncos last week, right? And so I'm just saying. like We played tough games in the AFC West. I can't believe you're doing it two shows in a row. This is blasphemous. I hope the football gods strike you down. I hope your teams lose. Yeah, it's not happening. I think Chargers covered that eight and a half point spread.

Speaker: is because they are desperate. When you 0 -5? You're desperate. wow They're about to throw everything. They're about to throw the kitchen sink at the Chiefs. Mark my words. It's going to be a close game. on Upset?

Speaker: I mean, it's got to be an upset, so there you go. I can't believe he's doing two shows in a row. The reverse sports jinx in the house. It worked. Awesome. It works with the reverse force.

Speaker: Nah, it worked for me twice last year. Yeah, it did. Yeah, but you can't you went hit double down on the reverse. Jinx. You can't do it for two weeks in a row. Yeah, we'll see. Hey, ah Jake.

Speaker: Someone has some words for you before you get your picks in here. Someone named Isaac. That guy's a bandwagon with the Broncos. That's my brother. Shout out to the bro bro bandwagon guy. free Shout out to Isaac.

Speaker: Way to call him out. where to call him out That's right. call him love that Yeah. Your wife, your mother, it don't matter. Everybody, your whole family just come out and call you out. Yeah, I've been a Broncos fan my life. Get out of here. All right, go ahead and give us your lock and your up shit.

Speaker: All right, this is the easiest lock of all time. Texas Longhorns shouldn't have lost last week. So... They get to play a team. i mean That beat them last year.

Speaker: That beat them last year. And you don't think Arch Manning is coming for revenge? We saw what Arch Manning did to Ohio State in week two and said, get out of my damn face, you suck, Ryan Day. I'm your daddy now.

Speaker: You don't think Arch Manning after losing... The Red River rivalry is not going to be pissed. and come out guns a -blazing. destroying everybody in his way. I think they win this game outright. It's 11 point spread. They cover that easily.

Speaker: Easily. And what's your up to? He has yet to come out blazing. I don't think he's blazed all year Stop worrying about tech. Those guys suck. That's all I'm saying. Texas State. a Texas State, you blazed against Texas State 305 yards for a touchdown. Let me tell you something right now. He hasn't blazed the rest of the year. He hasn't blazed against anybody. The greatest.

Speaker: This is what I'm noticing. 161 hundred sixty one yards i blaz Yeah, he's winning. That's what I know. if He's winning. it he's winning he didn't win the last game That's great. That's it. That's it.

Speaker: and he beat ohio state he's righting his wrongs that's all he's doing and he's gonna do it again Yep. As I was saying. i say He won. he As I was saying, he was terrible.

Speaker: Well, he came back and won. That was beautiful. Come back here. Guns a blazing. be but the The upset of the week. I don't trust this team. Pew pew pew pew pew! Okay. Pew, pew.

Speaker: Go ahead, Jake. Hurry up, man. We got the game coming home you just set up. this As on the scene. The upset of the week. I'm calling it right now. I don't trust this team. I know they beat the Raiders last week.

Speaker: but I think the Jets will win this game. and I believe they will win this outright and beat them by more than seven points. Wow. I got the Jets upsetting the Patriots. I think the Patriots have been on a high. They beat the Bills, and then they had to right their wrong from last year. because the Raiders beat them last year.

Speaker: So they had to do that. Now they're going to be feeling mellow. They are exactly what they are whenever I saw them against Seattle. They're not that great. They overachieve those games.

Speaker: No, I'm talking about the Patriots. The Patriots overachieve. They overachieve their games. They overachieved the last two weeks. That is not them for real. they will lose this game. I got 23.

Speaker: 14. 23 -14. 23 -14 gets over New England. I would love to see that happen. But yeah, we only got 20 minutes left, so we're going to keep this moving fast.

Speaker: On the track, let's get to our debates. for the day uh we're gonna take it backwards and go a little bit back because we do have to do our reviews from the weekend. So everybody go ahead and we are going to do your top game from this past weekend.

Speaker: college football, or NFL. Jake, we'll start with you.

Speaker: Um... I'm going to go ahead and go with Thursday Night Football. I got to call a spade a spade. Let me tell you. The Bucs looked like their season was over. you did The... I'm just going to stay to stay, buddy. ah um The Bucs looked like their season was over. They had a backup QB.

Speaker: They had no hope. It was a given. The Cowboys just did the unthinkable. They won the week before looking happy. Feeling great. And yet somehow, someway, and hey, shout out to Bucky Irving on my fantasy. Both of my fannies love ah fantasies love you, man. Stepped up.

Speaker: Showed up and and boy, oh boy. Yeah, he's on my fantasy team, and boy, did he do crazy. As well. and Let me tell you something now. The Bucks did what they had to do, and I think in the end, that's going to be the reason why Brian Schottenheimer... It's fire.

Speaker: And I believe Dak will be looked at if he's the QB of the future. with that game right there. That game is going to be a momentum shift the way that we're looking at the Commanders game this past weekend.

Speaker: Yeah. All right, you got Tampa Bay beaten. Dallas and everybody. I know. i Look, i'm I'm pissed because I had Dallas in my survivor pool. They knocked me the hell out, those bastards.

Speaker: Anyways. Go ahead, Amar, who you got in this one? ah um I'm definitely rocking. ah Now, game of the week for me was obviously I'm going to go Monday nighter.

Speaker: uh, bills. Rams. What a fantastic game. Uh, Obviously, We kind of saw a ah lot of... things happened in that game. You saw the good and the bad of Josh Allen.

Speaker: with a bad interception, but we also saw some good plays. pressing with him using his feet. Um, Throw the rim, offense high -powered. of the defense. and I don't know. Well, secondary was... was at least I know dude.

Speaker: Corners that came from TNC, Jalen Watson. Chip and Duffy look good. I don't know about everybody else. in the be Uh... It's crazy. I think Sean McVay. cost them that game.

Speaker: I thought he had. approval. coaching blunders that was just goofy. I didn't understand why he didn't tell his D coordinator, hey. ah Josh Allen has 121 rushing yards. Right. You might want to spy him. Okay, yeah, that didn't make any sense why you never spied him. And it also didn't make sense why you took the ball out of...

Speaker: Matthew Stafford's hands were almost through for 400 yards, and you put it on a kicker. It's a witch. Yeah, didnt that didn't make no sense. so um but Great drama. Great fun. Love that game. Game of the week for me.

Speaker: Yeah, I mean that was definitely a really good game down to the wire. Flo, who you got?

Speaker: We got to pick different games. You don't have to. You just have to have a better argument. I know you were going to pick that game too. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, I mean, for me, that was the game of the week. That's what I was going to say. I mean, because you're talking about an overtime game. You're talking about a game. They went into the 30s.

Speaker: And I think the last time they played, it it went into the... high 30s or 40s, I think. But I think last time the Bills lost that game. And so... Yeah. And so this was one of those games where...

Speaker: You know, it was a get -right game for Matt Stafford because he he's been he struggled the last game. and So he had 383 yards and three touchdowns. So it was kind of a get -right game for him. And then, you know... You have...

Speaker: Again, The touchdown machine, Devontae Adams, another two touchdowns. for this game. I mean, he has just been a touchdown machine. If you have him for fantasy, man, you're always getting some points.

Speaker: I mean, because he's he just seems to be... a guy who just knows how to get to the end zone, knows how to get those, you know, high point those balls, 50 -50 balls. ah Higby had ah a really good game ah for him, 83 yards. He didn't get a touchdown. Pukunukuwa is back, 138 yards that he had rushing.

Speaker: And so this was one of those games that you... It was kind of back and forth. And it went back and forth, back and forth, and... Uh... and And I like what Mark said, that you showed the the good and the bad of Allen, and I think that's true. And I and i think that that's...

Speaker: who the Bills are going to be. You're going to go as Alan goes. and you're going to go in a way And and it's it's like a... It's like Alan superpowers his legs, you know.

Speaker: that's his superpower if everything else fails he starts using his legs and he He runs over people. He runs around people. I mean... That's going to be the the Bills' forte. I mean, they're just leaning into him. and And I like that they lean into his legs. Who knows how long his legs last? you know We know that you know guys that run don't last is that long.

Speaker: uh and and they they're not that durable he's been injured and nicked up and stuff but for the most part he's been healthy And so that that's what it's going to be either you're going to win or lose, win or die by Josh Allen's legs and or arm because he can have great games. He can throw for 400 yards one game.

Speaker: and then he can throw for less than 200 and then run for 100 and something and so this is This is what the Bills are going to do, and and I have the Bills, you know, going to the Super Bowl, and this is how they're going to do it. is by josh allen they're just gonna let him loose and hey this game you're gonna use your legs this game you're gonna use your arm and that's how they're gonna win and and and move on. And I think this kind of leads to my... uh my scenario ah That.

Speaker: the The Rams are going to start out slow, and here they are starting out slow. They lost another game, and I feel like they're going to get it going. Towards the end of the season, they're going to have like a win streak at the end, maybe win five or six or seven in a row. And that's when they're going to and they're going to go in and and make a run in the playoffs as a wildcard team.

Speaker: Hmm. Yeah, I mean, look, they go go as Josh Allen goes. Thankfully, most of the time for them, Josh Allen is you know unstoppable. Now, he can't have his ups and downs, obviously, but he's more good than Pat. last night or The other night, he became the first qualifying NFL player.

Speaker: to have a game with a 10 plus yard pass. Per pass. and 10 yards. Her run. averaging uh first player ever to do that in history nfl so pretty good for a quarterback you would have thought Michael Vick or something would have done stuff like that. So, all right, cool. Let's move it on.

Speaker: I'm sorry. No, we can't move it on. Flo, pick your winner. Bye -bye.

Speaker: ah You know, I'm not taking Jake. That's a dumb answer. He just wants to rag on my cowboy. So, obviously, Marr had the better argument. Yeah, exactly. That was not the game of the week. That was the upset of the week, maybe. Not the game of the week. He only said it some just to mess with me. That's all it was. That's great.

Speaker: All right. Hey, Jake, what you got? I got more. Yeah, you know what? I got more to give you. Professor's point on my side. So that's a two pointer for Mark. Yeah, no, I agree. I do. I do. Because Flo is a great man that thinks like other great men. We don't know what to think. Look at this guy. Yeah. All right, there you go again. That was the game of the weekend. um And yeah, I do agree with the Josh Allen take. All right, we'll keep it moving.

Speaker: On to the next one. This is going to be ranking your top... Three. college football championship contenders so your top three teams in college Who you think have a chance?

Speaker: to win The whole thing. Go ahead and rank them. Jake, we will start with you on this one.

Speaker: Top three contenders, right? They have the chance to win it all? Yes, yes. Okay, so for sure I have Notre Dame won. Okay. I have Ohio State 2. mm -hmm And I have Texas 3.

Speaker: All right. I like how you're putting your team down there. that okay um cost sp of faith but earlier you weren't so convinced about oh no you did say notre dame was going to blow them out never mind you did damn right they were Okay.

Speaker: All right, so Notre Dame. Ohio State. And Texas. So you think no ah Notre Dame has the best chance to win the championship is what you're saying? Yes, they're the most scariest team out there. All right, cool. Mar, who you got?

Speaker: Let's go. Notre Dame. Georgia. but Three or one? Three. No. You're going I'm going down. Naughty Dame to one.

Speaker: Okay. Georgia 2.

Speaker: Indiana three. Indiana three. Okay. Netties, baby. Let's go. All right, so the difference is there. uh we've got uh you have osu and he has Georgia. And then you have Texas and Maher has Indiana. All right, cool. Flo, who you got?

Speaker: Uh... I got Ohio State number three. I work my way up. And I think ah my preseason prediction of Jeremiah Smith winning the Heisman, or at least we going to New York, is going to come true. He's going out.

Speaker: And he's making his quarterback look good as well. He may end up winning the whole thing, the way these quarterbacks are playing. Exactly. And so that was my preseason. you know, a Dark horse for the Heisman was Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker: And then number two, um I got Notre Dame. They're still undefeated, and I do have them losing against BYU, but... They don't have a conference game. That'll be their only loss. They'll get into the playoffs. And so I got them second best. ah Probably because of that loss ah coming up, I think, to BYU. And I think they'll expose a few things with Notre Dame.

Speaker: ah But for my number one, I definitely got tips. Nope. Georgia. Georgia is going to be there. Number one. Uh... They just beat Alabama on the road. ah A really good Alabama team. yeah Yeah. They have a complete. Team on both sides of the ball, they were able to show ah that they can win those tough games, a tough game on the road in a hard place.

Speaker: to play. eight I got Georgia with their defense you know leading the way. and their offense doing just enough to get there. That's my number one right now. All right, we'll disperse some arguments here so we can pick a winner. ah Mar, you have Notre Dame and Georgia, so you have that flipped from flow. What makes you think that?

Speaker: Uh... I just think just because... um And Notre Dame not being in a conference and you're not. ah having to deal with the conference championship. They make their own schedule. And let's be honest, they're favorite in every game that they got on the rest. of the Yeah. It's all skin. So, I mean, it's kind of like All you gotta do is not eff it up.

Speaker: Very good point. Very good point. All right, cool. No, that actually makes a lot of sense. And Jake. You have OSU. And Notre Dame, um and you have Notre Dame instead of Flo having Georgia.

Speaker: So go ahead and and talk to us about why you have Notre Dame over Georgia and why. You have OSU over Georgia.

Speaker: Can y 'all hear me? Yeah. there you Yeah. Hold on, I can't hear y 'all. Uh oh. Uh oh. Yeah. but Must be that Texas. You have to jump and jump out and jump back in there, my my friend. It would be that horns down Wi -Fi he got over there. when he live out He does live in Texas and he and he's...

Speaker: And... And he's killing the cowboys.

Speaker: is he Is he talking to us or is he on? Is he on the phone? Is he muted? Okay, I think... I think he just took a phone call in the middle of the show. Are you talking to us? Anyways. Let's keep it moving. He gets no point on this automatically. That's a canteen move. In the middle of a show. That's a canteen move right there. Wowzers. Holy cannolis. I'll take a phone call.

Speaker: If it's an emergency, we'll give him a pass. All right, it better be an emergency. If not, we're giving one point to Flo and one point to Mar, because we don't have time for Jake doing his nonsense.

Speaker: um And yeah. Okay. You know what? That's what we're doing. One point for Flo. One point for Mar. We're splitting it. Jake just messing this show all up for himself. I will say this. I agree with you, Mar, because of the fact of what you just said.

Speaker: Notre Dame has the softest schedule. All they have to do is not mess it up. to be able to make the playoffs, and then all they have to do is win the playoffs. Yes, that's true. That is true. You are right. I do i do agree with you there, Flo. I do think that Georgia is the better team.

Speaker: I just think that the attrition of the SEC, I believe, is going to, you know. Do that. Wear them down. More?

Speaker: And again, I'm not saying they they can't win the championship. I just think Notre Dame will have the easier road. is what I would say. Jake, are you back? You get no point on this, but are you back? right No, you're not back? All right. Anyways, Flo, what were you going to say there?

Speaker: Oh, there he is. No, I was just going to say, yeah I mean, what what team has... have Has a... Notre Dame beating that's as good as Alabama. What game do they have they won that's as good as that game?

Speaker: Oh, I agree. You know what I mean? They don't have a – but they don you know they make their own schedule, like Mars said. So, of course, they're not going to – have all of the big That's what I'm saying. I think they'll make it to the playoffs. But I don't think they're going to go far. I think they'll... You'll falter. and either game one or two or three, whichever.

Speaker: i don't I can't remember how many games they do now. All right. Well, I like both your arguments. You both get one point. We're not testing it. Okay. i like both the arguments jake you get nothing we're moving on We don't have time for your nonsense. You're a hater. You took a phone call in the middle of a show. oh How do you take a phone call? I hope it was i hope it wasn't an emergency. Are you okay? Everything good?

Speaker: We're good. all right good since it wasn't an emergency you definitely don't get no point all right moving on ah Gah! NFL. all right look you don't have to do all these feels like old times options But for our first quarter, we're through the first quarter. I want to know who you got. Who's your MVP? Who's your best, worst teams?

Speaker: Biggest... surprise, biggest disappointment. Again, you can go anywhere with this. You can pick all of them. you can pick it doesn't matter pick as many as you want uh i just put them out there as options Ciao.

Speaker: We will start with you, Jake. Are you your last point? All right, well, first, worst QB is Justin Herbert. Boy, oh boy, did I warn everybody about this bum. I've warned how bad this guy was and how overrated.

Speaker: for year after year. how trash he is and boy oh boy has he shown that um MVP wise. I know everybody's saying Brock Purdy and I don't know why.

Speaker: Because he i yeah cause he's like an MVP. What do you mean? Yeah. He's got an all -star roster around him. Let's not do that, guys. Mike Evans changes the game bar. He does. He does. That's true. And that's what I was about to say. The MVP, in my opinion... is Mike Evans. in there it's on his team without mike evans they are nothing in fact to beat seattle They needed a Mike Evans. I think he needs Mike Evans. In fact, when he, he's not playing well.

Speaker: they don't play well in general. They had a piss -poor offense against Denver the week before last, and Mike Evans was hurt. he had a partial what He was partially hurt already. So when he's healthy,

Speaker: they're They're great. when he's hurt. They're not that great. So I'm gonna go with that. And then you said what, best team? yeah it doesn't matter whatever you just pick whichever um i'm gonna go with the team i said it before uh i think there's one whatever There's one defensive coordinator that is scaring the life.

Speaker: and the living life out of quarterbacks right now, and that's my boy Brian Flores. Boy is making people see ghosts. The Vikings should not be 5 -0, yet somehow, someway they are.

Speaker: Because that boy scares you. by just when you say hut. You're looking at ghosts because you have no idea. where he is going. Whether it's a cover one, a cover four quarters, a cover four palms, a cover three, you have no idea. He has his players playing great. And Kevin O 'Connell, shout out. You're making that bum Kyler Murray look decent. Good job.

Speaker: Yeah, you know, look, Jake, I don't usually normally agree with you, but I liked all your picks. um You know, Justin Herbert is one of the worst. uh disappointments minnesota is one of the best teams no doubt and look i'm not I know Mike Evans isn't going to win the MVP. ever. it's just not possible and he may not even stay healthy enough to do so but the fact that you're going with you know what i always love is that i hate that the mvp is a quarterback award It shouldn't be.

Speaker: Damn right. It was never meant to be. It was supposed to be for any player. And if a wide receiver or a running back has a stellar season, like 2 ,000 yards. They deserve to be the MVP over any other quarterback, no matter what. So that's why I was stomping for JT last year and why I would stomp for somebody.

Speaker: you know, that may be playing really well. in a wide receiver position at other times like Justin Jefferson or jamar chase things like that again i don't think mike devins does it but he is the mvp for the 49ers.

Speaker: You're damn right about that. Mar, we'll come to you. What you got? Wait. Uh... Thank you. may not like it. Wait. The guy is playing like the MVP. It's Brock Brady. Peace. playing damn good football.

Speaker: You can say whatever you want. fuck my He had an all -star cast. He only... wide receiver that's actually up and healthy. is Mike Evans. And that man been old enough to probably seen The Last Supper. so Like, let's stop that.

Speaker: ah they are they've They've been losing people. Dropping like flies left and right. with the injuries. So this is another year that the 49ers aren't at full strength and yet here they are still winning games. So where's Bradford? I don't know why we trying to make it difficult, Jake. Don't do that. Come on.

Speaker: Uh, Uh... Where's teams? ah Look. uh Amen. I hate to do this to you, oh. Oh no!

Speaker: which i had y 'all had me too i was i was I was big up in y 'all Raiders, man. Y 'all done lost back -to -back games. and you what Was that one of the worst pod episodes I ever saw, how bad y 'all were doing that shit? Y 'all over here looking real fugazi right now. Like, what happened? bit. Yeah.

Speaker: like And they got the bills this week. Yeah, we have a job schedule, we have a job schedule Hey, we're in the same division. Shut up. Marv, we have the same schedule. Okay. Damn.

Speaker: Hey, you sound like... Come on, man. do You know, because earlier used you said... Anyway. No, I agree. Thank you. Thank you. Y 'all got me. Y 'all are the better team, though. so well you no Hold on, but y 'all weren't supposed to get your ass kicked like that to New England last night. No, you're right. That was horrible. No, you're right. That was horrible. And then, look, the biggest surprise to me, just for me,

Speaker: It's because I thought Jacksonville was going to take a step back and hit AR and still win at the end of the football. Oh, yeah, not wrong at all. Yeah, es that's the biggest surprise for me. cause I literally thought they were going to be trash, but they... they um They doing they damn thing, so.

Speaker: That's what I got for you. Yeah, playing very, very well. There you go. Flo, what you got on this one?

Speaker: Um...

Speaker: I'm gonna go... a little off the board a little bit i'm going to say and i'm surprised more didn't go here I got Kendall Walker. as the MVP. Kenneth Walker. Yes sir. Kenneth Walker, sorry, Kenneth Walker. the third.

Speaker: ah He's leading. He's number one. you know, in Russian yards. uh, through four games, 6 .2 per.

Speaker: Carrie. He has four rushing touchdowns and two receivings. They weren't even expecting the receiving, I don't think, as much from the Chiefs. So he's he's been that X factor for Mahomes to be able to do the things that he likes to do. He's been the one that's been able to release some of the pressure off Mahomes, and now you've got to worry about Kenneth Walker ah running the ball as the feature back, and no nobody...

Speaker: Nobody necessarily expected this. I think they thought that would be a great addition to the team. but Nobody thought he'd lead the NFL. be the best running back in football right now because he's never done it. He's never been the lead back.

Speaker: And so now as the lead back, as he's getting most of the carries, already has 87 attempts ah and already has 12 receptions. I think he has 600. 21 yards from scrimmage. He has a chance to break.

Speaker: 2 ,000 yards rushing and he has a chance to break I forget who who owns that record ah for the most holy yards. from everybody. Is it Eric Dickerson? yeah but i'm talking about like think i think it's I think it was ah the guy from the Rams. Marshall Falk.

Speaker: for sure i think i think you might But he anyway, he has a chance to break both those records and the pace that he's on right now. He was named the AFC Offensive Player of the Month for September with this kind of start. And so for me, I think Brock Purdy, I think he's done well, but I think...

Speaker: Or me. I think he is right now the MVP. All right. yeah and And then... Mm hmm. ah Yes, I think I'm going to take ah what was the other name is the best team.

Speaker: Yeah, you can do best team. You can do anything. Okay. I got i got the 49ers as the best team right now. Okay. um I think that they're playing the best as a team. I think Purdy is playing well, but I think... like you Like people have already said about Mike Evans, he's playing phenomenal.

Speaker: Debo is rejuvenated going there. He's had some big plays as well. And they beat... some good teams. They beat the Rams who were coming in at first game. They were supposed to be the Super Bowl favorites. They beat the Cardinals who are, I like to say, Frisky! And...

Speaker: They beat the vaunted... Jake's vaunted Broncos. right And they beat the Seahawks, who were the Super Bowl champs, who were still playing well. Even though Donald's struggling, their defense plays really well.

Speaker: So they had some quality wins. So it hasn't been an easy schedule either. So I think they're the best team overall. And the one thing I like is they're not wearing out. uh, McCaffrey.

Speaker: you know they're kind of saving him they're they're letting him not they're not pushing and they're not making him overworking him and i think that's smart as you go later into the season and into the playoffs. So I got them as the best team. at And their defense is also playing very well.

Speaker: There you go. Yeah, I think but a lot of people agree with you. I know Canteen does. All right, Flo, who do you have as a winner on that one?

Speaker: Uh... I'm gonna go more on that one. All right, Mark, who you got? I'm going to go Jake to give him a sympathy. Come on. empty wear Sympathy ball. Look at him.

Speaker: and knows empathy I have Flo because I agree with Kenneth Walker. But here's my point, though. they better not he bet They better not overwork him. That's my wonder for you, Ma.

Speaker: Oh. So I'm going to go ahead and break the tie here, and um' it's not a sympathy vote. I agree with all of Jake's picks. transitive properties Tell me. that if Jake is picking Mike Evans to be the MVP of a 49ers team. And Flo was telling me the 49ers are the best team. If so, fact so. That means Jake probably had the better argument in that case. So we're going Jake with a point on. this one great job and i know jake your game has started so we're gonna make trivia very, very quick.

Speaker: so we can get you to your Bronx hose. So let's go ahead and... uh get the board up here real quick give me one second

Speaker: and And the only thing that looks good about them Broncos tonight is that old school orange crust. I like that. I like that. oh yeah they got oh We're playing a soft zone all game right now. It's pissing me off.

Speaker: I mean, that's what happens when you don't have your all pro. <unk> and Right now, the Seahawks are driving down the field. Right past the 50, Sam Darnold. Drop stack goes. PSN catches.

Speaker: On the sideline. All right. Cool. Let's do it. Nice. Let's get this out of the way real quick college football for one point. while many players have won the heisman trophy only one player has won it twice who is that No.

Speaker: Who was that? Archie Griffin. Archie griffin Griffin. Great job, Mark. Very well done, my friend. Couldn't think of his name. 1974, 1975. Good one. All right, college football for two points.

Speaker: Only Heisman winner with a losing record played on a 3 -18. what we got

Speaker: Uh... Back in the 40s. I was about to say. was that a Why a tittle? Why yay Tittle is not right, but that's great. good yeah That was a good guess, though. why is Well, you only get one guess.

Speaker: good So back in the 40s or 50s? 50s. 56. I'll give you the year. 1956. Jeez, I don't even know. Take a guess. I'm going to say you you went theme a little. I'm going to say Notre Dame.

Speaker: Who is it? Don't name. him The guy, what's his name? Get one guess, Flo. Don't mess it up. You're right about Notre Dame. Ooh.

Speaker: It's... Paul something. Oh, you're so close. You're so close. ah he He bring Bye. How it's, sir I don't know. his name.

Speaker: Come on, you're so close. It's an H name. I can't remember his name. I'll give it to you. Paul Horning was his name. Horning, that's his name. you jane nineteen fifty code members I remember his...

Speaker: I don't know how to say his last name. All right. Three points. Which award is given to the ten nation's top center? every year. enterner Oh, Lou Grover. Walter Payton, the morgue.

Speaker: That's the punter. Walter Beaton, though. What no the... Top century, man. Center. Chuck McNair. No. Oh, man. Is this college?

Speaker: Yeah, let's call it that. Oh, sorry. Well, you get one guess. You want to take one?

Speaker: I couldn't even guess this one. i't know Dave Lemington. Hall of Fame center. Dave. Remington, who I believe. The Remington trophy. Played four.

Speaker: Who did he play? I thought he played for your Cowboys at some point. Hold on. No. ah No, he played for the Patriots. Bend those knees. All right, cool. Boomer, Boomer, Sison's guy.

Speaker: NFL for one point? Probably. This NFL team holds the record for the longest winning streak of all time. Patriots. The Patriots. Ooh. Is it the... Nope. Not right now.

Speaker: Is that the Patriots? You get one. Nope. Mark, you get the last guess. Not the Patriots.

Speaker: Cowboys. Nope, it is the... Indianapolis Colts with Peyton Manning. What? Three game streak. 2009. Wow. Now, for two points, who holds the longest losing streak of all time?

Speaker: Ah, yes. Round. Nope. Nope. No. What? I lost guess, but he is it. oh I bet you I know who it is. Heh. You should have guessed, Rick. Shut up, no more.

Speaker: It's got to be a team of perennial loser, kind of. Yeah. Gotta be, gotta be. Uh...

Speaker: The bucks lost for a long time before they started. They won some Super Bowls. Woohoo!

Speaker: Is that your final answer? Bucks, Browns. Jets. A lot of losers. Yeah, I got to think of all the losers.

Speaker: I don't know. i'll just say I'll just say... It wouldn't be someone... We would think so you're going to go off the board a little. So it won't be Jets or Browns. I didn't choose the team.

Speaker: I'm just saying a question.

Speaker: I'm sure you're being strategic. I just said Cardinals. It's either Cardinals or the Jets. Should have gone with your first guess. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 26 games from to 1970. Oh, man. All right, for three points, NFL. Aside from Lawrence Taylor, who was the only other defensive player named NFL MVP.

Speaker: Charles Woodson. No. Damn it, Jake. Think about it. Only defensive players? He probably got it anyways. book It's an older player from 1971. I'll say that. I'll give you that Probably, I want to say...

Speaker: oops I'm addicted. No. It's gonna be hard. I don't know anybody's gonna get it to be honest and I was going to say so one of the Steelers, maybe.

Speaker: Uh... Yes I guess.

Speaker: i don't know one of the i bet you know what it I bet it's somebody from the Purple People Leaders, from the Vikings. Yep. You are right about that. I don't know. I don't know either name. I can't remember. Leonard Marshall.

Speaker: Uh, the great. former NFL defensive tackle and Minnesota Supreme Court justice. Obviously enough. Alan! page in 1921.

Speaker: All right, now we've got to get us out of here because the Broncos are about to get a safety. So let's get to this last question, the final sacrifice. Never give up. points i figured it was it might have been one of them because they were the purple which two Current NFL teams have existed since the founding year. In the 19... 20s. You only give me the city.

Speaker: You don't have to give me the necessarily team because they were different names back then. You gotta to have both of them? You gotta have both. I want to say Chicago and Cleveland. Ooh, that's very close Very close, but no.

Speaker: Unfortunately not.

Speaker: So one of them's got to be the pack. stickers, right? so What's the other one?

Speaker: Lombardi.

Speaker: Not the bears?

Speaker: Jake, did you guess? I said the Packers. Green Bay. I said two teams, but okay, that's wrong anyway, so it doesn't matter. Oh, hater. Fourth and seven Broncos. They got stopped on third down. Bo Nix is not the pick still.

Speaker: And you know what? I think it's it might be the the Cardinals because they've moved cities, and they' but they've been around for a while. And and and the and and the Green Bay Packers. the green bay Cardinals and Green Bay Packers. Is that your final answer?

Speaker: Yeah. Amen. You were close. Some of y 'all were close. It's the Arizona Cardinals and the Bears. Oh, it wasn't the Packers. It was the Bears. And the Arizona Cardinals at the time were the Racine.

Speaker: Because all the teams run in the Midwest. When they started. Because there were St. Louis Cardinals. Well, hey, trivia was not a success for anyone today. Wasn't that Chicago Cardinals team at one point? I think they were the Chicago Cardinals. They were the Chicago Cardinals after the Racine Cardinals. I call this game is rigged. You gave us answers if we lived in our...

Speaker: In the 30s, bro. Chill out.

Speaker: but I'll take that feedback. i'll take that feedback and for next time i'll make them more more recently at least like i least get us in the get it get us in the modern era the the Okay. The Super Bowl era. Slapping our damn face, Omar. I was trying to make him a little harder, but maybe that was a little too hard. I apologize, my friends. Hey, there. James Miller. What's up, Miller? We appreciate everybody that tuned in today. Let's go around the horn so we can get out of here. Jake, you can find him here. Total evisceration, AGS.

Speaker: uh at bowling buds he's gonna go watch his broncos ah You can go now, but Jake. said Give us your last words. Yeah. hey man shout out y 'all uh go crazy uh omar you still suck bum all right Get out of here.

Speaker: All right. Be ready. Flow man, you it's time to switch teams buddy. Cowboys suck. Come on No, man. Can't switch. that Get out of here. Alright, he's been kicked from the studio. Uh, more.

Speaker: Hi, Lannis. What you got for the people? Amen. Always a pleasure. uh you know uh i just gotta to say that flo hey man good to see you man been a minute since we a podcast i guess Come on with us. dont Hey, anytime, man, if my schedule allows me, man. You know me.

Speaker: Hey, yeah, y 'all know where to find me. Go on over to Twitter. A .C. Wildcard Mart. That's where I got all my content loaded because y 'all know me. I got many podcasts, many content coming out. We're going over to the door.

Speaker: Appreciate it. There you go. I appreciate you, brother. I'll make sure those questions. are are a little easier for that everybody next time i'm actually looking at them they are kind of hard i should have made those a little easier one really hard one in there and with that Three or four.

Speaker: Oh, my goodness. Hey, I appreciate you, Mar. Hey, I'll have my show Saturday. uh at that live show so tune in and and maybe we'll get you uh get some comments in there and stuff Oh, for sure, baby. Tell me. Yeah. i Support. Always. Hey.

Speaker: if i can bring you on i will my brother we'll see what happens

Speaker: And me too. ye I'm going to go. Okay. I don't know if you're going to tell me. Hey, so yeah, I'm flowing. I'm with my guy, Canteen. That's that's my guy ah right there, James Biller. He used to work with me up here at El Paso. He moved recently.

Speaker: He's a Steeler fan. to him. Appreciate you tuning in. Yeah, so you can find us now on our shortened version of our name, tblsports. On Facebook, TBL Sports on X.

Speaker: and still the bottom line sports on YouTube. Uh, we come on live every Sunday, uh, at right is the afternoon games and, and right before. ah Sunday night football. We just wrap up all the football and we talk a little bit of college and get all the big games. and all the key things and talk a little trash and Omar drops in and talks his trash about his Writer. later Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, but now we see the Raiders. We are who they thought who we thought they were. They are we thought yeah who we thought they were. Yeah, you can find us anytime. Anytime between five about 5 .30 on Sundays, which is our lonely live show right now. And then visit the Facebook page. We're almost at 2 .1K.

Speaker: I need about 40. more people go share like do all that good stuff and we'll be at 2 .1 But I appreciate Omar and all the fun we have here. and We miss you on our show, but appreciate what you're doing and all the stuff and you're doing out there and Jake and all that. and Yeah. We'll see you next time.

Speaker: Yes, sir. Appreciate that. Yeah, y 'all check out. Tap in TBL Sports. Facebook group is good for trash talk. And also, yeah, check out their show Sundays after the main games before the night games. And, yeah, definitely tap in with Wild Card Mark. Audible Sports, Bobby G, Averill, the whole crew over there, and as well, IOW Sports Network.

Speaker: Always rocking it live for the homies. These two have been on shows many a times. Friend of the family, friend of all buds. Make sure you subscribe to Ball and Buds, B -A -L -L -A -N -D -B -U -D -S. We now leave you to the Broncos.

Speaker: ah Seahawks, you got the Seahawks driving at the 50. Go Seahawks! 0 -0. And you also got a little bit of ah Brewers and Dodgers action still 0 -0 here at the beginning of the game. Who's going to win that? Oh, sports professor. I got the Brewers. Who do you think? I think the Dodgers.

Speaker: I think the Dodgers are done. so Are they going to bench Ohtani? um I mean, it's hard to go against a team that's playing as hard as the Brewers right now. It's kinda hard. Yeah. Yeah. yeah They were going to bench Otani. I guess they did not. I guess they decided he's too valuable. he hasn't been playing well, I think the Dodgers are done so. And for that, we are done. so andco Be kind.

Speaker: be yeah Be blessed. And we'll see you next time.

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