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What happens when the father of your children disappears? What do you tell them to explain why even Santa isn’t magical enough to bring him home? This week, Maggie and Allison explore the missing person case of Brandon Lawson-- the case of a missing father, of an unclear 911 call, and… as always… of an ending that leads to more questions than answers.
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Misconceptions about Missing Persons
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Sometimes the tales of missing persons do us a disservice. Sometimes they lead us to believe that women and children are more susceptible to outside dangers, to going missing. However, a WALB News 10 story cites Vivint Source that the average age of those who go missing is 34.
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And perhaps more surprisingly, when you examine the 15,207 people currently missing in the United States, 40% are women and 60% are men.
Who was Brandon Lawson?
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Which leads us to our case today. The case of a 26 year old father of four. The case of a stocky 230 pound oil field worker.
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and the case of a man who went missing on August 8th, 2013 near Bronte, Texas. Our case today also involves dozens of unanswered calls from the missing man to loved ones. It involves a bizarre and at times incomprehensible 911 call, an abundance of theories, and a man for whom not a single piece of evidence has been found to lead to any knowledge of his whereabouts. Our case today covers a man who is still missing.
00:01:20
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Even after around 2,500 acres have been searched. Even after multiple private investigators were hired to find more information. But I don't ever want us to give up hope. After all, the murder of Mariah Riddle was solved 55 years later. I certainly know his family hasn't given up looking and hasn't given up trying to get a story told. Which is why I'm here telling it to you.
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This is the story of Brandon Lawson.
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Welcome to Coffee and Cases where we like our coffee hot and our cases cold. My name is Allison Williams and my name is Maggie Dameron. We will be telling stories each week in the hopes that someone out there with any information concerning the cases will take those tips to law enforcement.
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So justice and closure can be brought to these families. With each case, we encourage you to continue in the conversation on our Facebook page, Coffee and Cases podcast, because as we all know, conversation helps to keep the missing person in the public consciousness, helping keep their memories alive. So sit back, sip your coffee, and listen to what's brewing this week.
Brandon and Ledessa's Love Story
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The setting for today's story is in Texas. We began in 2003 in Crowley, a town of around 8,000 people in the high school. Kind of appropriate. Wait, they have 8,000 people in their high school? No, no, no, no, no. 8,000 people in the town. Oh. But the high school in it. Okay. So this is the place where the love story began for Brandon Lawson and Ledessa Loftin.
00:03:35
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I'm guessing they were probably, well he was a little bit older, but if you did anything alphabetically for the whole school, which you know it's a small school so they could have, they'd be near each other. Maybe he was like her little crush. Yeah, well he was 16, she was 15, and they felt like it was love at first sight. And surprisingly, their love actually did last past high school into the real world, which
00:04:01
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I don't think that's very common. It's not. So my very best friend, her name is Taylor, her and her husband have actually been together since fifth grade. What? They were each other's first love and they've been together ever since then. Oh my gosh, that's even more rare. I know. That's a long time. So they probably know each other better than their parents even.
00:04:26
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Ladesa has recalled in an interview with Krista Johnson for an article in the San Angelo Standard Times that Brandon approached her at the beginning of her sophomore year and he had kind of like a cocky attitude when he walked up to her. So he tried to be suave and he said something like, do you know who I am? And she, I love this Maggie. Even though she did, she said, no, am I supposed to?
00:04:51
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which i love that response this is such a maggie anthony conversation because the first time he talked to me he was like we were on a bus on a field trip and he was like hey what's up and was like really cocky and like i just turned around i didn't say anything i was like get the cold shoulder yeah well apparently brandon liked ledessa spunk and he asked her to write her number down and this is so funny too
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But she remembers, and she recalls this laughingly in that same article, that she's pretty sure he had already had another girl's phone number written down on the same music paper. But those blue eyes and that smile, they had already captivated her. So she wrote down her number anyway and that's how their story began.
00:05:33
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Well, right after high school, they had moved to Fort Worth, which is only about 15 miles away from Crowley. So it was pretty close. And they were young, but they said they loved each other. They would bond over movies, fishing, camping. All of which I hate. Yeah. Minus the movies. Yeah. I can do movies.
Brandon's Job and Relationship Strain
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Fishing, camping. No. No. I'm out. And Ledessa said they were just, quote, living life to the fullest.
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Well, fast forward to 2012. Ledessa and Brandon still together, so it had now already been almost nine years. They were now the parents of four children. They had moved to San Angelo, Texas, which was about three and a half hours southwest.
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of Fort Worth. See Brandon had taken a job with Renegade Oil Services as a field worker and he was doing that so he could make more money for the family. Unfortunately that
The Argument and Brandon's Departure
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work he was having to work these long strenuous hours. According to most accounts that I read he was working anywhere from 70 to 90 hours a week to provide for his family.
00:06:35
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I believe it. My uncle actually moved to Texas to work at an oil rig and he works about that much. I believe it. It's crazy. It's really good. Right. But I mean, you're paying for it. That's strenuous work.
00:06:52
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And those long hours away they were taking a toll on Ledessa and Brandon's relationship. Understandable. Exactly. With him gone so many hours that was leaving Ledessa alone to care for all of the children. So they were having frequent fights. I mean like a normal couple about the stresses that they were facing and Brandon had recently applied for and been hired to begin a new job on August 12th.
00:07:18
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Maggie he had just passed the required drug test and he and Ladesa were looking forward to him having more regular hours that would allow him to be home to obviously help her help with the kids because you know four kids. That's a lot. Right and you're doing it by yourself.
Brandon's Distressing Journey Begins
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Just one month shy of their 10-year anniversary of being a couple this would be a wonderful way to start the next 10 years.
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Yeah, my schedule's changed. I can be with my family. It's a fresh start. And everything I read, I'll go ahead and tell you this. Some articles I read said girlfriend for Ladesa. Some said wife. And from my understanding, they had a common law marriage because they had been together for so long. So that's why some said wife, some said girlfriend.
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But on that Thursday night of August 8th, just four days before his new job would begin and with our youngest baby sick and crying from an ear infection, when Brandon came home late, he and Ladesa, both tired from their long hours of work, got into an argument.
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I feel like that happens, though. I feel like Anthony and I are much more susceptible to pick at each other when we're both tired. Exactly. Well, Ledessa reports that the fight wasn't really over anything unusual, just like the normal stresses of a young couple, a young family trying to navigate everything that needed to be done. But Brandon was angry enough to leave, though.
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I would cry. I don't like that. No, I don't like that. No, I don't like when people walk away. I want you to stay there and I want you to talk it through with me. And I want us to work it out and then I want us to end the conversation with I love you. And then we're good. That's the exact same way. Well, he left sometime between 11 p.m. on August 8th and midnight.
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He told Ledessa that he planned on going to his dad's house, but that was back in Fort Worth. That's a long drive. Yeah, that's like three and a half hours away. So that's like angry enough that you want to drive home to your parents.
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So he grabbed his keys, wallet, phone, and the wall charger for his phone, and he left. So it's serious. We're taking a charger. Right. Now, he didn't pack any clothes, but he did pack his phone charger. Even though the fight was typical, Ledessa felt like Brandon was in, quote, panic mode, and she didn't want him to go that far away, because that's a long drive, and if you're upset,
00:09:38
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So she called and she asked him to either drive around and calm down and then come home or to drive to his brother's house instead because his brother's house was only a few minutes away as opposed to multiple hours of driving to get to his dad's house. Something like that would be a good plan. Just drive around, calm down, go to your brother's vent.
00:09:57
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Do whatever you need to do and then come home. And we can verify that this was indeed his plan to drive to his father's house because his cell phone records show a call to his father at 11.54 p.m. to let his father know that he was on his way. So we know that that was his plan.
00:10:14
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Accurately feeling that her request to Brandon to stay closer to home would go unheeded, right? She knew Brandon. She knew he wouldn't listen. Ladesa called Brandon's brother Kyle to let him know about the argument and to ask him to check on Brandon. Okay, again, I feel like she's being a loving girlfriend, loving wife, trying to check on, make sure he stays safe. Right. Well, meanwhile, according to some sources, Brandon also called his brother to ask him to check in on Ladesa and the kids.
00:10:41
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So this is like, you know, they're young, so we have to keep that in mind. And it sounds like one of those situations, Maggie, where they're angry so they don't really wanna talk to each other. But they wanna make sure the other one's okay. Exactly, yeah. And so, I think this is just a case of showing their young age.
00:10:59
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So Kyle, Brandon's brother, came by Brandon and Ladesa's home around 12 10 a.m. to check on Ladesa as he told his brother he would do and then he headed back home himself. But Kyle wasn't home for long. At 12 30 Brandon called him to say he had run out of gas.
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So when Brandon left his home, he had been low on gas, but probably where he was angry, maybe even replaying the argument in his head, I do that. I'm always like, oh, and then I should have said this. I should have said this. Yeah. This was so good. He was probably doing that and probably just wanted to get on the road. And according to his family, he also likely thought that he could make it to Bronte, Texas, which was the next closest town to get fuel. And he almost did.
00:11:46
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So I am the driver, and I hate that this is me, but I'm the driver that I'm pulling into the subdivision, and my gas light comes on, and I'm like, mm, I could go across the street to the gas station right now, or I could go get my pajamas, and I'll just do it tomorrow. And then when I wake up to get to work, and it's like. And if you're running late. Yeah, and then I start my car, and I'm like, oh no, okay, we're just gonna pray that we get there. Right. So far, it's worked out.
00:12:17
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Hopefully, it will continue. Well, yeah, so he probably thought, you know, his gas light wasn't on yet. He was low on gas. He was probably like, you know what? I can get there and then fill up. And the place where he ended up having to pull his truck over to call his brother to say that he was out of gas, it was only four and a half miles from Bront. So he literally almost made it.
00:12:38
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Brandon tried to call Ledessa at 1234 and again at 1236. So this is like four minutes and six minutes after he had called his brother. But those calls went to voicemail. Either Ledessa had missed them somehow.
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or maybe she was still angry and just didn't want to answer them because she, maybe she needed to calm down or she knew, maybe she was afraid that he was calling to continue the argument or rant and she wanted him to calm down so she thought, nope, I'm just gonna let these go to voicemail. If it was me and it's 12.30 at night, I'm already asleep, so good luck to you. Good luck, sir. Yeah. Well, either way, with neither call did Brandon leave a message.
00:13:23
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At 12.40 though, when Kyle called, Ladesa answered and found out that Brandon had run
The Mysterious 911 Call
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out of gas. And that's what tells me maybe she was like purposely doing it. Right. So Kyle asked Ladesa if he could borrow the gas can for Brandon so that he and his wife Audrey could come by and get it and take it to Brandon so he could get some gas.
00:13:47
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Kyle had wanted to fill it up himself, the gas can, and take it to Brandon, but his paycheck hadn't hit his account yet, so he didn't have the money in his account to fill it up for his brother, so he thought. Understandable. Oh yeah, so he was like, you know, at least I can take this gas can to him, I can pick him up, drive him into Bront, he can fill it up, and then return to his truck, right, and put the gas in it. Ledessa said that she would leave the gas can on the front porch for Kyle to pick up,
00:14:14
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and that but you know Kyle just wanted to let you know I'm not going to be available is what she said if you try to call me because where Brandon had taken the wall charger that was the only wall charger that they knew where it was
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So I'm making a face, but then I'm sitting here thinking, okay, really though, I just used Anthony's charger for like two weeks because I couldn't find mine when we got back from Washington. He found it though. So this is completely realistic.
00:14:46
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So he had taken the wall charger. And so she told Kyle, she was like, listen, if you try to call me, I'm not gonna be available because we're bringing to take the wall charger. I'm gonna have to plug my phone into the car charger. So my phone's gonna be out in the car. So I'll leave the gas can out on the front porch and you can come and pick it up. But if you try to reach me, then you won't be able to. This is a really stupid question.
00:15:11
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How's she charging her phone in her car? With the car not on. Yeah. I thought the same thing, but then I don't know because this was, it's not an iPhone. I have an iPhone. I know mine doesn't charge unless the car's on. Right, because the battery wouldn't be putting power to anything. But I don't know if when you used to plug into the cigarette lighter, like if you had one of those, if it would still charge.
00:15:35
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because you could use a cigarette lighter even if a car wasn't on. Do you remember from your childhood like you would plug the things into that? So that's the only thing in my head that I was thinking because I had the same question. But then I was like, oh, maybe that's what it was. We'll go with that. Yeah. So Ladesa had her phone in the car, far out of earshot, and Brandon tried to call again at 1248.
00:15:58
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a call that Ledessa says still haunts her that she didn't hear and didn't answer. Because just two minutes later, at 1250, Brandon didn't call a family member. He called 911 instead.
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I can only assume that because Braun is such a small community, it's only around a thousand people. Oh my God. Yeah, so tiny, tiny. The 911 call was routed to a nursing home rather than a larger 911 call center.
00:16:32
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That can happen? Apparently, I didn't know that, but that's what I read. And we'll get the content of that call here in just a bit. One minute later, at 1251, according to an interview with Brandon's friend, Jason Watts, on the Generation Y podcast episode, Kyle called Brandon and left a voicemail, so his brother's trying to get a hold of him. One minute after the 911 call, Watts continues to fill in the timeline for us.
00:16:59
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Audrey, so Kyle's girlfriend, also tried to call Brandon at 1252 unsuccessfully. So we dialed 911. We've had one phone call from the brother and one phone call from the sister-in-law. Right. Yes, no answer either time. At 1254, Kyle tried to call his brother again.
00:17:24
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at 1257, Brandon, not able to call through to Kyle, tried to call a neighbor who was unable to answer. So obviously, the reception in this area, super sketchy. So people are trying to call in to Brandon. It's not going through. We're playing phone tag. Exactly. Brandon's trying to call out. Many of those calls are being dropped. They're not going through. Brandon, at 1258, tried to call his brother Kyle back.
00:17:53
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but his brother didn't even get the call. At the same time, the neighbor who Brandon had tried to call was calling Brandon back. But again, like the phone calls weren't going through. So there are so many missed opportunities here when we could have found out what was happening, when help could have been on the way. Yeah, help could have got there maybe on time. Right. And then there were just dropped calls everywhere. At 1258, another call was placed.
00:18:20
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to the Koch County Sheriff's Office. This time it was from another driver that there was a truck that was parked haphazardly on Highway 277, partially blocking the lane. And this call that came in to 911, they said, quote, this could pose a risk to oncoming traffic. That truck was Brandon's.
00:18:47
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A series of phone tag calls continued mostly because again the reception was not good in this area. The 911 dispatch who Brandon had called at 1250 tried to call Brandon back to get more information because they needed it to try to find out where he was and again that call didn't go through. There was another series of missed calls between Brandon and his brother Kyle between 109 a.m. and 115 a.m.
00:19:16
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Finally, though, at around 110, so in between all those missed calls between Brandon and Kyle, and we know from his phone records, around 110 a.m. on August 9th, the police showed up to check on that report of a truck blocking part of the road. So they didn't respond to his 911, Brandon's 911 call. They respond to the other 911 call. Exactly. And I'll get to a theory behind that.
00:19:41
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when we get to that point. Did you know this is random sort of but today because I have best duty in the morning it's fantastic. So today I was talking to the sheriff that's at our school like our resource officer and he said you don't have to have service to call 911.
00:20:00
Speaker
Really? Didn't know that. I didn't know that either. He said they used to collect chargers and the old flip phones, like razors and stuff, and they would give them to women that would stay at the homeless shelter for women. So in case they were ever in trouble, they could still, as long as it was charged, make a phone call to 911.
00:20:18
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Really? But what about when the reception's sketchy? That's what I said, because I was talking about Anthony and I trying to switch service providers, but we only have service with Verizon to go to my mom's, you know, because that's far away. But he was like, oh, you don't need service to make a 911 call. That makes me wonder then why that one 911 call when they try to call him back didn't, unless this is like a new thing. Or maybe you have to have service for 911 to call you, but you don't have to have service to call them.
00:20:47
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Maybe you have to have service to pick the call up, if I were to call you back, but you don't have to have service to call it. That would make sense too. I'm Googling it. Yeah, we'll check it. Well, around 1.10 a.m. on August 9th, the police showed up, like I said, to check on that truck, because like you said, Maggie, they were responding to that second 911 call.
00:21:06
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Well the truck was parked extremely oddly and remember I already told you this is Bree and it's
Search Efforts and Unanswered Questions
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truck and the tail end is still sticking out into the road which confuses me because if he had just run out of gas then why couldn't he have just coasted into a spot that was like fully on the shoulder and out of the way of traffic. So to me this is extremely odd.
00:21:28
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Well, I've never ran out of gas. So do you just stop suddenly and you're like, oh crap. I think you're like running on fumes for a while. So you would have time to pull over out of the way? Yeah, I would think it would start sputtering or you would. You would know. Right. And be able to pull off the road. I feel like with his tail ends on the road, it's like he had to stop abruptly. We'll get to that.
00:21:51
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Well at the same time coming from the opposite direction as the officer who was responding to that call about the truck being in the road, coming from the opposite direction is Brandon's brother Kyle and Audrey who were headed there with the gas can.
00:22:06
Speaker
Oh, so they arrive at similar times? Yes, roughly the same time, which to me tells me that obviously Kyle and Audrey didn't see Brandon anywhere on the side of the road. And obviously the officer coming from the opposite direction also didn't see anyone on the side of the road. So maybe he's in the truck still? No, but I'll get to that.
00:22:30
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Right after they arrived at Brandon's truck, Audrey received a call from Brandon at 1 18 a.m. But again the reception is really bad so she couldn't really hear everything that he said. Kyle reported later that it sounded to Audrey like Brandon was running so he was out of breath and that Brandon had told him that he was quote about 10 minutes up the road.
00:22:55
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Now, there was a rest stop not far up the road from where Brandon's truck was abandoned, only about a quarter of a mile from some reports. So Kyle probably thought his brother Brandon maybe was heading there. Makes sense. Right. It's close by or hiding in the brush until the police left.
00:23:14
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What? Well at the time Maggie Kyle had an outstanding warrant for a prior charge. One which according to his common law wife he was saving up money to pay the fine through a lawyer that he planned to hire. So he hadn't yet paid that fine so still had the outstanding warrant. Well
00:23:36
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Audrey was on the phone with Brandon when Kyle pulled up to Brandon's truck and saw the officer there. When the officer saw Kyle pulling up with a gas can, he asked if he owned the truck or if he was the one who made the call about the truck sticking out into the road. When Kyle told the officer that the truck belonged to his brother, he said, oh my brother must have just stepped away from the truck.
00:24:00
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Right, because again, he's thinking maybe my brother's hiding. Oh, he's kind of covering up right because of the warrant and the officer told Kyle that if the truck was not gone by the next morning a tow truck would be called to tow it away and then the officer left Not knowing that Brandon had called 911
00:24:22
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Kyle was only thinking, okay, like you said, Maggie, I'm protecting my brother by not telling the officer that my brother could be hiding in the brush over there, right? Not telling the officer that Audrey was on the phone with Brandon at the time. And obviously this officer didn't know either that Brandon had also placed a 911 call. Remember it was routed to
00:24:47
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Oh yeah, the random nursing home. Right, and not to the 911 call center. And so neither Kyle knew that his brother was in danger, right? He just knows that his brother's out of gas and his brother's on the phone with Audrey. Sounds like he's out of breath, says he's about 10 miles down the road. He ran a long way. He did. Or sorry, 10 minutes.
00:25:09
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I was like, hey! That's fast. He's a marathon runner. And the officer didn't know either that he only got the call from the passing motorists that said there was a truck sticking out in the road. So neither one of them knew that Brandon was in danger. Exactly. And because the reception was spotty,
00:25:30
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Audrey heard Brandon say something about bleeding before the call dropped, but she just assumed that he had cut himself, because there's all kinds of cactus and stuff like that, that he had just kind of skinned himself on the foliage in the area. Again, not knowing that he had made a 911 call, so she doesn't know either that he could potentially be in danger. This is kind of sad because
00:25:57
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had they had service to make all the phone calls that had been unanswered or couldn't go through, we might be in a different situation today. There were a lot of those calls. Yeah.
00:26:08
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Well, since the calls weren't successful, Audrey texted Brandon at 1.19 a.m. Again, not knowing he was in trouble to let him know that there was a cop at the car, just like Kyle, thinking that maybe Brandon was hiding because of the warrant and not wanting Brandon to walk up and then the police be right there at his car. So she sent him that text. It was when the police left,
00:26:33
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that further phone calls to Brandon's phone went unanswered. And when Brandon failed to appear from the brush, Kyle and Audrey finally became worried.
00:26:45
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So I guess then it kind of clicked. Maybe something else is happening. Exactly. Kyle began driving back and forth on the road yelling out to Brandon. No response ever came to those calls. Ended around 3.30 a.m. Brandon's phone quit ringing. Either it had been turned off or because the battery was dead.
00:27:09
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Sometime early that morning, Ledessa had retrieved her phone from the car because remember, she's charging it out in the car because Brandon took the wall charger. Made no sense, but okay. Well, when Kyle called her at 4.30 a.m. on August 9th, we know that she had her phone because she answered that call from Kyle and heard from him that they had finally found a Brandon's truck, but not Brandon.
00:27:35
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worried about what could have happened to Brandon, led us a call to police station to ask about Brandon's truck. Remember they had responded to a call after all and to see if they had any additional information, right, of what's going on with Brandon. Yeah, maybe they found him during the night. Exactly. The family was still hopeful that Brandon was okay. I mean, even though he had left his truck, right, and Kyle, now that his paycheck had hit his account,
00:27:57
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he went back and brought gas with him. He left it there in the truck, so that way, in case Brandon did return. He could leave. Exactly, he wouldn't be stuck anymore. But at 8.30 a.m., when Brandon still hadn't returned to his truck, the sheriff's office had it towed away. I mean, they were on top of it. They were, I know, because, well, it was blocking part of the traffic, right? Oh yeah, true. And Maggie, that's the last that anybody has ever heard from Brandon Lawson.
00:28:27
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According to an article on San Angelo Live by Chelsea Reinhard, two or three days after his disappearance when Brandon still hadn't contacted his family, Kyle went to the police and gave them the information that he had been on the phone with Brandon when the officer had arrived at the truck in an attempt to more completely fill in the timeline.
00:28:48
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help them kind of figure out what had happened to his brother. But the pieces of the puzzle together. Right. Sadly, it wasn't until several days after that when Ladesa was finally able to get phone records that she saw Brandon's own call to 911 and requested access to that recording. So up until then, the police station still didn't know that he had placed an 911 call to the nursing home? Apparently no one did because of the way it was routed.
00:29:17
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weird. From what I could understand they were not aware until she saw this 911 call and then they know to kind of trace it and find it so they could hear the recording. Should the 911 operator kind of be a little bit liable if they didn't get the information to where it needed to be? I mean I would think and I will say like those who think that there is some sort of a conspiracy would argue that they did have access the police to the 911 call. Oh they just didn't do anything with it. Right.
00:29:51
Speaker
Now Maggie, I'm gonna play you this recording and you are listeners so you can hear it for yourselves. But before I share several interpretations of it, I want you to give it your own honest and objective response as to what you hear. Because you see, the danger that I myself had when I was reading about this case and seeing several transcripts is this tendency toward confirmation bias.
00:30:13
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But that's that one theory.
00:30:19
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So, it refers to this idea that you hear what you've been told that it says. Yeah, that's like recordings of ghosts and it just sounds like nothing and then the subtitle says like, I'm gonna kill you and then you play it again and you're like, oh my god, I hear it, I'm gonna kill them! Exactly. And I don't want you listeners or you Maggie to feel the same in this case. So, I don't want to, you know, kind of
00:30:44
Speaker
I want to keep it objective. So without that knowledge yourself, I want to get your interpretation before we discuss the various versions that other people have heard. The audio that I am going to play for you is credited to Margin Walker. This is from YouTube who posted this version of the audio. You will hear the call one full time in its entirety at full speed.
00:31:08
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and then again at a slower speed and I want you listeners and you Maggie to listen to both before we discuss the call.
00:31:18
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9, 2,000, 13, 0, 50, and 38 seconds. No way, emergency. See us? I'm in the middle of the field. It's safe. We're just finishing guys over. We're out here going towards that. We're going on both sides. Watch out for the out of gas. There's one more here. We've got to check for the woods. Three turns. OK, now run that. I mean, I don't want to fall off this hill.
00:31:43
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Oh, you ran into him, okay. That's a hard shot. Did anybody hurt?
00:32:15
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Two thousand thirty. Zero fifty and thirty eight seconds. No one emergency.
00:32:29
Speaker
Yes, I'm in the middle of the field. This guy's pretty good for two guys over. He's right here going towards the other one on one side. Watch out for him out again. There's a whole court here, and he's got to check for the one. Three parties. Okay, now, what does that mean? What does that mean? I don't want to talk to Joe. I'm telling you, I need to know.
00:32:54
Speaker
Oh, you ran into him, okay. That's such a hard stuff. Do you guys hear me, Alex? No, I don't want any of the calls. Okay. Anybody heard? Oh.
00:33:23
Speaker
Now Maggie, Brandon's friend Jason Watts, who was on that Generation Y podcast, he mentioned that he thinks that Brandon had made those calls on speakerphone and that's why his voice is seeming to fade in and out. So he's scared, he's running, and maybe there's somebody behind him.
00:33:42
Speaker
Right, and he's turning back to look, and so his head would be going away. Now, here is my plan for you listeners. I'm going to play the 911 call in segments. Maggie, I'll ask what you heard. Listeners, I want you to think what you hear, and then I'll tell you various interpretations. So here is the first segment. 911 emergency.
00:34:17
Speaker
Okay, Maggie, what did you hear? Okay, this is what I heard. I'm in the middle of a field.
00:34:28
Speaker
Listeners, don't judge. I'm in the middle of a field. A sniper just perched and drive over. Out here going towards Abilene, going towards both sides. My truck ran out of gas. I'm going for it here. This guy chased me to the woods. Please hurry.
00:34:44
Speaker
Okay, now that sounds funny, especially the sniper part, but some of that was actually a lot of what the interpretations are. Now, most everything that I saw said at the beginning, it's clear that Brandon says, yes, I'm in the middle of a field. That's clear. But then he says something, some guy's over. A sniper just perched and dropped over, that's what he says.
00:35:10
Speaker
One interpretation says that he says, yes, I just pushed some guys over. Okay. One says something about a stapler, meaning a state trooper just pulled some guys over. So that could be it. Would we hear the siren?
00:35:28
Speaker
I mean, perhaps, but I mean, sometimes maybe they just had. Oh, just got the blue lights. Right. So that's what some people think. Just push some guys over, a stapler just pulled some guys over. But he does then say, right here, going towards Abilene on both sides or potentially Brontside. Because remember, that's how you pronounce the name. So it could be, he's saying, on Brontside. He clearly says, my truck ran out of gas. There's one car here.
00:35:58
Speaker
Right, I think you said, thought you said I'm going for you. I'm going for you. Most interpretations say he's saying there's one car here and then says something like, the guy's chasing me into the woods. Okay, I kinda got it. Please hurry. Okay. Right. Okay, here is the next segment. Okay, now, run that, let me, I'm gonna call up the tool, car is showing me the tool. Okay, Maggie, what did you hear on that part?
00:36:28
Speaker
I'm out here talking to them, something, something, I need y'all. Something, something, I need y'all. I mean, you did. And then something about I totally ran into them or something like that, right? So most interpretations, where they're
00:36:50
Speaker
not conclusive is that first line. Some people said he's saying we're not talking to him which then begs the question who's we? Yeah. Because he's by himself. Right. We're not talking to him or there's one guy talking to him or there'll be no talking to him so we're not sure if he says
00:37:11
Speaker
I know you're talking to him. Right, there's one guy, there'll be no, but then he clearly says something about, it sounds to me like he says, ah, I totally ran into him. Or no, I ran into him. Okay. Okay. And then, but here's the problem. When the police and when Kyle showed up to Brandon's truck, this ran into him, kind of is problematic.
00:37:40
Speaker
And what way did he mean ran into him? Because neither Kyle nor the officer found any indication of damage on Brandon's truck. So he didn't actually hit somebody. When I hear, oh, like I ran into them, I think like I would run into my friend at Walmart. Yeah, like, oh, I saw them unexpectedly. Right. So it could be that maybe he came upon something that he wasn't supposed to.
00:38:10
Speaker
I don't know how he quote-unquote ran into him. But remember if he's talking to his brother Kyle that he left his truck and he's trying to get toward that rest stop. Maybe there were some people along the side of the road and he didn't mean to come upon them, but he did. Right and I picture this being like
00:38:32
Speaker
a road in the middle of like a field, not a heavily traveled road. It is, you're right about that. So maybe there was something shady. Maybe a deal was going down. Yeah, something shady going on and here's Brandon who happens upon it. Okay, here is the next segment. Ah, you ran into him, okay. Okay.
00:38:55
Speaker
Just the first guy. Right, so she says, ah, you ran into him, and then he says something like what Maggie, what you think he's saying, like just the first guy, or that's the first guy, or yes, the first guy. Something about a first guy. So there's multiple people. Exactly, and I'm glad that you caught that, because by saying just the first guy, that means there's more than a first guy. Right.
00:39:23
Speaker
there's multiple there's multiple people out here with Brandon okay and then the final segment
00:39:54
Speaker
Okay, what did you hear there, Maggie? So I hear some background chat, but I can't make out what it is. And then he says, no, I need the cops. And then I either hear, like, you know, if it's kind of windy and like you're on the other end of the phone, you can hear like the wind blowing into the phone. So either that or tires crossing over the joints on a bridge. Yes, I'm glad that you said that. So let's start with the,
00:40:23
Speaker
the comment when he says, no, I need the cops. In that comment, she says, do you need an ambulance? And he says, yeah, no, I need the cops. And there's been a lot of commentary about that, yeah, that's made. There are some people who say that the yeah was made by a second person, not Brandon. So they said, do you need an ambulance? Oh, because he's on speaker. Right, that somebody else says, yeah, and he says, no, I need the cops. But in my mind,
00:40:51
Speaker
I mean, that could be the case, but in my mind, it's almost like he's expecting her to first ask if he needs the cops. And so he says, yeah, it's kind of like when you answer a question before you've really heard the question. So he says, yeah. And then he realizes, right. She was asking about an ambulance and he says, no, I need the cops when the question finally registers with him. She then says, is anybody hurt?
00:41:15
Speaker
and there's no other response which is why she continually asks hello and it's that background noise that Maggie was commenting on that people have also made a lot of different interpretations about it could be the wind like you said Maggie.
00:41:30
Speaker
Some people have argued that it's muffled gunshots, but I don't buy that because I feel like it would be way louder than that. Yeah, even muffled I think would be louder than that. Right. I'm with you Maggie. It sounds to me like tires going over the seams in a bridge. I drive a bridge every day to work. And so I was listening, knowing that we were going to talk about this case, I was really paying attention and listening to it. And that's exactly what it sounded like to me.
00:41:57
Speaker
Still others have said that between the second and the third hello from the 911 dispatcher that you can hear an extremely faint, help me?
00:42:07
Speaker
and didn't hear it. No, I have rewound and replayed that segment so many times and there was one time when I was listening to it I was like, was that it? But I think it's that confirmation bias. Yeah, because you're listening to that. Right, yeah. Now I do want to address his voice and his tone. He does definitely sound concerned. Yeah, he sounds panicked. Yes, he sounds out of breath. As would I if I ran.
00:42:34
Speaker
And he could be, yeah, exactly, out of breath because he's running. But to me, I don't know, it's the tone of that 911 call that has me wondering something. Did it sound to you like he was involved in an accident or crime or was reporting one? Because to me, it almost sounded like he was reporting something that happened to someone else and now whoever was involved is after him.
00:43:03
Speaker
Yeah, because it's like, hey, I came upon this. Now I'm being chased into the woods. Right. I accidentally ran into him. So it's almost like he was calling to report something else that was going on that he was getting away. Right. Now, regardless, as I mentioned before, Ledessa and her family didn't even know about this 911 call until Brandon had already been missing for several days.
00:43:25
Speaker
crazy. I know. And once discovering it, Ladesa officially filed a missing person. It took that long. Well, because they thought maybe he was hiding. Maybe he had gone somewhere. They didn't know that he had called 911. True. According to Krista Johnson's article in the San Angelo Standard Times, quote, the same day, Texas Ranger Nick Hanna, who now leads the case,
00:43:48
Speaker
came to Coke County to take a helicopter ride over the area from the Colorado River South. So there was a bridge, right? So that sound could have been tires over a bridge. And the same day means the same day he was reported missing? Exactly. The same day Ledessa filed Missing Persons Report. So right over the Colorado River South and all along both sides of US-277 near where Brandon's pickup was.
00:44:13
Speaker
It was determined that Lawson was not on the ground due to the fact that there was a lot of exposed bare ground even under the short, mesquite, and cedar bushes, Neal wrote. His report is concluded with his opinion that, quote, Brandon Lawson is not in Coke County, lost or hiding.
00:44:32
Speaker
During a plane search, Neil said they were able to spot corn sacks from the air and said, if you can see those from the plane, you can see someone laying down, he said. At that time, the drought was bad. Leaves were drying up in everything, he said, adding that the river at that time was low, the deepest point just reaching his knee, end quote. So they're basically saying,
00:45:00
Speaker
there was a bridge because they're near the Colorado River. So that could have been the sound, but it was a drought. And so we couldn't have just randomly drowned in the river because even the deepest part would only come up to your knee. And at the time, Brandon had been wearing this bright yellow shirt. So he would have easily been seen. Right, exactly, as they're flying over in the helicopter.
00:45:28
Speaker
Okay, so who is Neil that's quoted in this? Okay, so while the Texas Ranger Nick Hanna is the one who led that helicopter ride search, the information that Krista Johnson is referencing in this article is coming from a sheriff's office report that was written by Deputy Neil. He's the one who actually checked the homes and the properties of people who were out of town and that sort of thing. So that's how we know this information. Gotcha.
00:45:58
Speaker
Chelsea Reinhard in her article on SanAngeloLive.com informs us of what was done by both law enforcement and by investigators who were hired by Ladessa to find Brandon. So she hired private investigators. She felt like the police like law enforcement was not doing
00:46:16
Speaker
as good of a job as she wanted so she had hired some private investigators. She says quote, since Lawson's disappearance there have been four aerial searches one put on by the Co County Sheriff's Office and three privately funded aerial charters paid for by Ladesa Lofton.
00:46:34
Speaker
Wow. The authorities have also conducted a grid search on foot. However, none of the searches have turned up anything. I find this very difficult to believe. Okay, so it's a drought. Right. So he's not going to be in the river. Nope. His clothes aren't going to be mysteriously washed away. Right. He's not going to be swept down river if something happened. Right. We're in like a very flat area. Mm-hmm. Not a lot of foliage, I'm assuming. And yet nothing.
00:47:01
Speaker
No phone? Sketchy. Nothing. It's because his phone was turned off. I'm pretty positive he is not in Cote County. Like I think someone kidnapped him and took his phone.
00:47:12
Speaker
and we'll get to the theories super quick here in just a minute. Well Reinhardt also interviewed Sheriff McCutcheon who said that quote, there were two or three Texas Rangers, deputies from Tom Green County, Coke County, San Angelo Fire Department, DPS Highway Patrol, DPS Criminal Investigation, and a search and rescue tracker that there was somewhere between 20 and 25 people who were looking for Brandon.
00:47:37
Speaker
because it was so hot at the time of his disappearance and to eliminate the possibility that Brandon got lost when he was running from something. Koch County Sheriff Wayne McCutcheon approved a search using cadaver or human remains, HR dogs. The search was scheduled for Thursday, October 24th, 2013. The dogs, well,
00:47:59
Speaker
They found nothing but could have been thrown off the scent. We'll talk about that in one of the theories. In total, law enforcement searched close to 3,000 acres. And nothing? Nothing. Ultimately, the Sheriff's Department ruled, and this is where a lot of people disagree,
00:48:14
Speaker
that they did not suspect foul play in this case. Wrong. Instead, he is listed as a missing person. I will say, though, that his disappearance is under investigation by the Texas Rangers, and Ledessa, as well as Brandon's family, still have a private investigator who continues to search for answers.
Theories on Brandon's Disappearance
00:48:36
Speaker
And Maggie, I'm not gonna go through all of the theories in this case, but I will go through a couple of them. Okay. Okay.
00:48:43
Speaker
This first theory says that they believe Brandon had relapsed and that this was just an episode of drug psychosis. Now, I mentioned in a story that Brandon had an outstanding warrant, the one that Kyle and Audrey were trying to protect him from getting picked up for.
00:49:00
Speaker
That warrant was linked to a 2005 incident when Brandon was charged with possession of a controlled substance. So this theory ranges from everything from Brandon being a drug dealer to him celebrating that he had passed the drug test for his new job by relapsing.
00:49:17
Speaker
and that that was the topic of the argument with Ledessa when Brandon came home that night. But again, all Ledessa wants, I feel like, is to find Brandon, and she would have told somebody if that were the case. Right. Agree. Some reports say that when Brandon first called Kyle, that he said something about thinking that Ledessa had hired three Hispanic men from the neighborhood to chase him out of town. Yeah, that was one report that I saw.
00:49:44
Speaker
And that Kyle asked if he was tripping, either actually tripping on drugs or just tripping. Like being crazy. Right. Being weird. So some people out there think that what led Brandon to the bush and what got him lost in the brush was this state of psychosis that was brought about by using again.
00:50:04
Speaker
But Ladesa reminds all of us that Brandon was working 80 to 90 hours a week in the oil fields and then he came home and every drug test from Brandon's work he had passed. There is not a single record of one that he failed. And why would he just randomly decide to start using again to fill?
00:50:25
Speaker
Right, and it sounds to me like he was really trying to like, that was in the past, he was really trying to turn it all around. I have a job and all this, it's gonna be good. Exactly, that was from 2005. So we're talking several years later and he hadn't gotten into trouble since then.
00:50:43
Speaker
Plus, even though in the 911 call, some of his words are unintelligible because of the sound quality, he sounds coherent to me. Yeah, he can put thoughts together. He can string a correct sentence together. Right, it wasn't like he was talking crazy like the sniper.
00:50:59
Speaker
Do you remember whatever it was? Perciferin dropped over. That's right. Also, when Ledessa saw Brandon's truck that had been towed, she said it looked as though the door panels had been removed. And so she thinks that maybe the police, that law enforcement was searching his truck for drugs. But if the police had found something, any drug paraphernalia or evidence, that would have been in a report. If they're honest. Right. And
00:51:26
Speaker
If it really were people from the neighborhood, right, the three men that he supposedly in one report told Kyle that Ladesa had hired to go after him, why wouldn't Brandon have mentioned that in the 911 crowd? Like, I know these guys are from my neighborhood. They're after me or whatever. But he doesn't say that.
00:51:44
Speaker
Theory 2 is that he staged his own disappearance to get out of the warrant that I mentioned in Theory 1. Right before he went missing, Brandon had checked on information about cashing in his 401k. Huge mistake. Yes, not a good idea. Don't do it. He won a huge tax bill. I worked for the Department of Revenue before I started teaching it. You don't want that tax bill.
00:52:06
Speaker
Well some take that as evidence that maybe he planned on running away, starting fresh with that money. One source I read however said that he had been thinking about it because he was going to reinvest it when he began his new job and roll it in.
00:52:22
Speaker
Okay. Okay and seeming to add fodder to those who believe this theory though, Ladesa has been unfortunately, this makes me so sad, raked over the coals in the court of public opinion about this. But shortly after Brandon disappeared, Ladesa moved from San Angelo back to Fort Worth.
00:52:41
Speaker
But she's explained that their lease was up and needing some help to care for the children. Remember, she's by herself now. It makes sense for her to move closer to her family. Exactly. And that's why she said, I moved back to Fort Worth so I could get help taking care of the kids. And Maggie, Brandon's bank accounts since his disappearance,
00:53:02
Speaker
haven't been touched. So if he willingly and intentionally ran away, why not take or access his money? Why abandon your vehicle?
00:53:13
Speaker
And if, as this theory speculates, he is running away because of his warrants, why would he have called so many people? And especially, why call 911 and ask for the police to come? And I feel like, I mean, I don't know because I've never had one, but I think if you had a warrant,
00:53:33
Speaker
Like, if I was gonna run away because of a warrant, it would have to be a pretty large fine. Right, and remember, he's already saving up. Right. If you're trying to avoid the police, why would you ask for the police? Yeah, why would you call 911 and be like, well, I'm hiding from the police, but please send them over. Right, right. Well, theory three is that the police are involved in a cover-up. Hmm. Suspicious.
00:54:00
Speaker
Here's how this theory goes. Brandon saw something that he wasn't supposed to see, something involving a state trooper pulling a vehicle over, remember some people think he says that, with at least two, quote unquote, guys in it. So just the first guy, right, and there being a second.
00:54:16
Speaker
Then Brandon saw, according to this theory, some kind of altercation between the guys and the state trooper where the state trooper shot the first guy. So some people think when he says just the first guy he says something about shot the first guy.
00:54:32
Speaker
So following this, he shot the other guy before killing Brandon. This is the theory, knowing that Brandon was a witness. And those who follow this theory argue for, obviously, the sound of muffled gunfire in the recording, that we said it sounded like tires going over a bridge.
00:54:49
Speaker
Some argue that police didn't respond until the other motorist, the truck driver, called 911 about a truck sticking out in the road and they bring up that the family didn't know about Brandon's 911 call until they got the cell phone records and they say, well, obviously the police did know about it. They were just trying to cover it up.
00:55:12
Speaker
I am such an optimist and like Anthony kind of gets onto me all the time because I put so much faith in the government and so much faith into like law enforcement and I want to believe that everybody that is in government or in law enforcement has
00:55:27
Speaker
the best interest of the public at heart and he's like the total opposite about some things and so I just have a hard time with this theory because I don't want to ever view the police as the bad guys. They're always the good guys to me. I know and that is really hard. Well in this theory, Ledessa said in an interview that she thought Brandis Truck was searched for drugs as I mentioned earlier.
00:55:47
Speaker
but not treated as evidence or a potential crime scene and processed for fingerprints. And so I get her argument there, right? But at the time, did they know it was a crime scene, right? They just think someone's abandoned a vehicle. Because they're out of gas. Right. To get it out of the way. Well, the problem that's led to this theory of the police coverup is that a lot of the information about this case appeared first in a newspaper called the Observer Enterprise.
00:56:17
Speaker
a paper owned by Sheriff Wayne McCutcheon and his wife, Melinda. And there were several headlines, I will admit, and stories that were at minimum misleading. Propaganda. Yes. So for example, stories that only mentioned, quote, a stranded motorist who ran out of gas and nothing about the potential for other individuals being involved. Obviously he said in the 911 call, just the first guy or something about the first guy.
00:56:46
Speaker
So we know there's multiple people. There's no mention of them. Many articles suggested that Brandon had staged his own disappearance or was on drugs at the time, which again, we have no evidence to support either one of those theories. So we're putting ideas into the public's head. Exactly. And then there were comments like the following made on October 2nd, 2013, quote, in conclusion, there were many poor decisions made that night and during the next few days.
00:57:15
Speaker
However, they weren't made by the Koch County Sheriff's Office." End quote. What? Yeah, so obviously this is slanted. Obviously this is biased. But to Play Devil's advocate, not for the comments,
00:57:30
Speaker
But at least for efforts of law enforcement in the case, around a week after Brandon disappeared, they had completed an aerial search using infrared cameras.
Scrutiny on Law Enforcement and Media
00:57:39
Speaker
They had covered roughly 3000 acres and they had searched with human cadaver dogs. So in total, there were seven searches by law enforcement.
00:57:50
Speaker
So that's pretty extensive. Right, and remember that he called 911 some 20 minutes before his final call with Audrey, right? So if he were somehow, quote unquote, finished off, why would Audrey or Kyle, because remember they're there. Yeah, they're really close by. Why would they have not heard gunshot? Hmm.
00:58:15
Speaker
Now, I guess some people might argue that depending on where you were shot, it might take time to bleed out. And he did tell Audrey that he was bleeding, so maybe he had been shot before they arrived. However, here's the big question. Where's all the blood? Well, yes, and here's my big, big question. If he saw a cop do something,
00:58:39
Speaker
Again, why would he call 911 and ask for more cops? Yeah, or why didn't he say in his 911 call, I just saw this cop shoot this dude. Right, and it's super unclear what he's saying. Now, theory four is road rage.
00:58:56
Speaker
or that Brandon saw something that he wasn't supposed to see. This theory tries to explain the one word in the 911 call that I told you I don't know what to do with. When Brandon doesn't say I, it sounds like he says we.
00:59:17
Speaker
So in this theory, Brandon ran out of gas and potentially flagged someone over, just pulled some guys over. Okay, so that's how this theory goes, right? Then something bad happened. There's one car here, got chased into the woods, please hurry. This would explain if he pulled, if he flagged somebody over, somebody stopped.
00:59:39
Speaker
and then they saw something or something happened, would explain why Brandon was saying we when he should have been alone. So someone was with him, potentially someone who had stopped to help him, but then the situation changed and they both had to run.
00:59:55
Speaker
Or maybe they were bad. Or could have been. And this theory also explains why some people say that there's that other voice when Brandon's can be heard in the background saying yeah when he says no. To the ambulance. I mean the cops, right, toward the end of the 911 call. But if this is the case, if he just flagged somebody over, right, because his truck had just run out of gas, why would his truck have been parked at that weird angle? Right, because to me that means like
01:00:22
Speaker
It's almost like he had to stop abruptly. Yeah, to me, that means you're driving and like you kind of have to swerve to get out of the way or you're like pulling over really fast to the side, not leisurely, just drifting to the side. And so maybe he had to stop abruptly and then he couldn't get it started back up again or something like that.
01:00:38
Speaker
Well, instead of flagging someone down, could there have been a near miss because of the way that the truck was in the road and maybe there was road rage? Maybe this could explain the angle of his truck if he had been driving aggressively and either someone was going too slow, someone cut in front of him, and then he slammed on his brakes that he had to swerve over to the side that it was a near miss.
01:01:04
Speaker
Maybe more than one car was involved, which is why he said we are not talking to him. We don't know. We just know there's no damage, but that doesn't mean that there couldn't have been a potential for an accident.
01:01:17
Speaker
But my question is though, Maggie, I saw nothing about tire marks on the road to show an abrupt stop. And there would have been if this were a near miss. I just don't know. So many possibilities, so many options. I just don't know. I know. All we know for sure is that we don't know where Brandon is. When Brandon called 911, his cell phone pinged near his truck.
01:01:47
Speaker
When Audrey texted him, his phone pinged north near the Colorado River. So obviously he was on the move, but the cadaver dogs found no sign of Brandon. Unfortunately, some reports indicate that the dogs may have been thrown off by the scent of local wild hogs, which can cover the scent of human remains. Ladesa believes that it was the wild hogs or possibly coyotes that got him.
01:02:17
Speaker
Or he could have fallen. But why would Ariel views not have located him? Like I mentioned in our episode, he was wearing a bright yellow shirt at the time of his disappearance. Brandon's dad goes back and forth between being realistic about Brandon's fate and keeping a slim hope alive that his son could be somewhere. And Brandon's children? For them, I don't know if the hope will ever die. It's hard for them to sleep at night.
01:02:47
Speaker
After all, what answer do you really give as a parent to where their daddy is when you yourself don't know? Another problem facing the family is the set of rumors. Those painting a picture of Brandon as some law breaker or drug addict, not letting him be anything other than a poster of his past faults. But despite his past, Brandon is still a victim. What they forget
01:03:17
Speaker
is his present, a loving father to four children who ask Ledessa every birthday and Thanksgiving if their daddy is coming home, or even ask Santa to send daddy home for Christmas.
01:03:32
Speaker
we need to press for answers, urge the landowners and sheriff's department to allow outside professionals to search the area as well. In an interview with the Generation Y podcast, Brandon's friend, Jason Watts, said that they are searching further into that other 911 call, the unreleased one from the other driver, which according to Jason Watts, he is currently quote, not at liberty to discuss.
01:04:00
Speaker
Let's urge that other driver to come forward with potential answers. And if there is a second voice on the tape, let's urge that someone who knows something to come forward. Let's urge those families of missing to never give up hope for closure.
01:04:20
Speaker
you have any information pertaining to the whereabouts of Brandon Lawson or to his disappearance, please call the Texas Department of Public Safety at 512-424-5074. Case number M
01:04:38
Speaker
130-8005 or the Koch County Sheriff's Department at 325-453-2717.
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