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Lara gets some medical attention.

A transcript of this episode is available at this link on BelieverPodcast.com

CONTENT NOTES

  • Car noises (including horns and sirens)
  • Violence
  • Medical abuse, equipment sounds
  • Harm to wild animals
  • Delusional behavior

CAST

  • Jake - Jason Markoff
  • Lara - Julie Saunders
  • Doctor Simmons - Samantha Simmonds Ronceros
  • Mayor Terri Boone - Rosa Delgado
  • Sheriff Tate - Regen Wilson
  • Rose - Mara Hernandez
  • Sodapop - Archie

Written and directed by Julie Saunders

Sound designed by Ester Ellis and Julie Saunders

MUSIC

  • “Julie’s Melody (Believer Theme),” by Aaron Ferenc
  • "Born Sinister," by Christoffer Moe Ditlevsen
  • “Reverse," by Silver Maple

Sound Effects from Adobe Stock, Epidemic Sound, Soundsnap, and Freesound.org

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Transcript

Introduction and Episode Sponsorship

00:00:00
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This episode was made possible by Zencaster, which is a brand new sponsor for the show. Check out our discount link in the show notes and stay tuned at the end for more information. A quick note, this episode contains quite a few car noises, so if you're driving while you listen, please be careful. Believer. Episode 8. Fingers.
00:00:43
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Apples for everyone.

Mystery of Water Complications and Jake

00:00:54
Speaker
For the record, I'm glad nothing happened with Jake. Well, you know, nothing more than
00:01:04
Speaker
It just, not that I would have been doing anything wrong. I mean, Rose was very clear about things. Not that she, I don't know. It just would have complicated things, I think. And to be honest, I still don't really know what Jake's deal was. The water! No, no, no, no, no, shh, shh, back to sleep, back to sleep.
00:01:34
Speaker
This neighbor guy. Skungate. Okay. It was weird leaving Soda Pop's leash hanging by the door. No morning walk, no happy dog. Just sneak past the sleeping man on the floor and go about your day.
00:02:03
Speaker
Now, where do you think the water comes from?

Fungal Contamination in Water Pipes

00:02:09
Speaker
Uh-huh! Okay, well, if mold had taken over Jake's house, then maybe that explained some of his experiences. The lapses in memory, the odd behavior. But what if there was more? What if there really was something in the water? Wait, what the...
00:02:33
Speaker
Jake had his own water pump, probably for a well system instead of the city water program. It's pretty common in a rural area like this. And growing all around it, under the grass, close to the ground were these... What are those? They were like little mushrooms.
00:02:53
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tiny black oily looking lumps with sickly gray stems and dark caps. At first, I thought they were just growing around the water pump, you know, moist soil and all that. But when I looked closely, I could see. Oh my God. There were tiny cracks in the pipe around every little mushroom. They were growing inside the water pipe. Oh, I took some samples.
00:03:26
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I should see that doctor.
00:03:50
Speaker
Dr. Simmons? Your assistant? No entry. Oh, sorry, I just... This area is restricted. You'll have to go back in the waiting area, Miss... Campbell. Lara Campbell? Lara Campbell. Lara Campbell?
00:04:04
Speaker
Laura Campbell! Um, yeah. Come in! Come in! Yeah, um, Camille said that you'd been trying to... Whoa! Oh, don't mind that. Just doing a bit of research. This is all research taped onto the walls and cabinets and everything? Well, it's a bit unorthodox, isn't it? It's just easier to see this way. I like to lay it all out, you know? Make sense of it.
00:04:30
Speaker
Yeah. Can I ask, um, what are these lines? You recognize those? Maybe. What are they?

Fungal Networks Explained by Dr. Simmons

00:04:38
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That, my dear, is the micro-arisal network.
00:04:42
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Like a what? Mycology. Fungus. Fungal networks. Like mushrooms? Yes. Well, no. Mushrooms are just the bit we see, the reproductive organs. No, no, no. Fungi are so much more than that. They project themselves metres underground, burrowing deep, making connections between nutrients and elements. So, like tree roots? No, no, no, no.
00:05:09
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On a DNA level, they are more in common with humans than plants. Wait, really? So you can think of them as limbs. Fingers. Reaching through the dirt. If you like. Here, look. This. You see this diagram? The trees? This is a forest. This is what we see when we look at a forest. Different trees, ferns, bushes, plants, distinct organisms, yes?
00:05:37
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Sure. But underneath. Underneath the dirt. Look.
00:05:43
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Everything is connected. What do you mean? Okay, trees have roots, right? To survive, trees need to synthesize light from the sun, but they also need to draw water and other nutrients up from the dirt. Hence roots. Right. But there are trees who get cut off from their root sources and still manage to thrive. There are even plants that never experience sunlight, and they still live.
00:06:09
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How? I guess they... Mycelia. You see, the trees send out roots, but roots only get them so far. Fungus. Fungus fills in the gaps. Each fungus sends out these long strings, these tendrils. Lines. They have more control over where they place them, how they travel. And if they place themselves next to a tree's roots,
00:06:35
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they can communicate. So they attach themselves, like parasites? Not parasites. Symbiotes. An exchange. The tree secretes glucose. In return, the fungal network carries water, carbon, phosphorus, whatever the tree needs to survive. And not just that. Information, Lara. There have been cases where one tree develops a disease and the other trees around it boost their disease resistance in response.
00:07:03
Speaker
They talk to each other through the fungal network. That's crazy. You see, don't you? We think of the forest as just an area, a collection of trees, separate things, but no. It's a single organism. The fungus is its central nervous system. Every forest is like this? This is what it is, Lara. Life.
00:07:27
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We are all life. We are all worlds inside of worlds inside of worlds. A body full of organisms, full of cells. Do you see it? Do you see? Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. Interesting? Interesting? This is vital. This is the stuff of life itself. Yes, yeah. You don't see. None of them can see.
00:07:52
Speaker
No, actually, I came here to ask you, well, I found this weird kind of mushroom inside somebody's water pipes.

Dangerous Fungus Investigation

00:08:00
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What? Show me. Well, I got a little sample. Let me see. Ah, yes. Oh, yes. Let me see. Where are those other sample photos? Those lines. Is that what it actually looks like? The fungus?
00:08:20
Speaker
Well, you know, it's an artist's rendering. Just like Rose's room. Huh? Nothing. This fungus. Can it make people sick? Why do you think I'm studying this? Exactly. For fun? Lara. Can I call you Lara? Uh, yeah. Fungal infection is one of the most common types of illness a person can have. That's what yeast infections are. Oh, really? Yeast is a fungus. They're everywhere. Well, that's...
00:08:50
Speaker
Breathe in the spores, consume contaminated food, eat the wrong mushroom. They think fungal-infected wheat could be the cause of the Salem witch trials. Did you know that? I heard something about that. Most cause regular respiratory infections are skin inflammation, that kind of thing. But a few here.
00:09:13
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Cryptococcus can penetrate the blood-brain barrier and cause confusion, disorientation, sensitivity to light. Candida albicanus, when spread to the brain, causes symptoms remarkably similar to Alzheimer's disease. It can cause memory loss? Memory loss, confusion, disorientation, all kinds of mental and neurological symptoms. So what kind of fungus did I find? Lara.
00:09:42
Speaker
You understand, don't you? Something is infecting this town. Not just the people, though it's getting them too. No, it's everything, Lara. The plants, the animals, the dirt itself. You've seen it, haven't you? There are a few vector sites, the Boone House, the Condemned Church, a few spots in the woods. Anyone who comes into contact with them becomes violently ill. Everyone. Except you.
00:10:11
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Yeah, that's weird, right? I will study this sample. But if we really want to defeat this, we're going to need more. Much more. You understand? I can check the rest of the water supply. Maybe a few more of those sites have these mushrooms at them. I need a sample from you, Lara, to see the antibodies. Oh, of course. So you agree to a sample? Yeah, if you think it'll help.
00:10:39
Speaker
I think it's very important, Laura. Okay, so do you want to do a cheek swab or... Let me take some readings first. Oh! Is this for a blood pressure monitor or... It's all standard, dear. Sorry, are you strapping me to the chair? I don't think I'm comfortable having both arms restrained. Ow! Don't be silly.
00:11:03
Speaker
Now, the best method for killing fungus is beta-glucan targeting. The body doesn't produce beta-glucans, so you target what's unique about the fungus itself. In the wild, nitrogen, bleach, that kind of thing is fine. But in the body,
00:11:18
Speaker
Now, where did I put that? Dr. Simmons? There we go. Now just hold still. Whoa, hey, don't you usually use a syringe? Oh, yes, but you see, I need so much blood. It just seems more efficient to use a scalpel, don't you think? Uh, no. Whoa!
00:11:39
Speaker
Oh, now you see I've missed. If I'd known you were squeamish, I would have done your legs. Let's try again. No! It's very important that you... hold still. No! Somebody help me! Help! Oh, dear, she can't hear you. So, now that you've mentioned it, I would be better off getting cerebrospinal fluid. This is not how you do a spell tap.
00:12:12
Speaker
You know what? You're right. This is insane. Uh-huh. I need a much better tool. Why would you even have a phone saw in here? This isn't an operating room! It's a lab. You need all sorts of things. Ha!
00:12:37
Speaker
Now, if you slip the restraints, this is going to get so much more complicated. Oh! Oh! Yeah. Lara, please, if you just sit back down, this could save a lot of people. Stay away from me!
00:13:00
Speaker
You have... ...unheard message. Just unheard message. Hey Lara, it's Cheek. Listen, I hope it wasn't too awkward when, uh... Well, I hope you got out okay this morning. Anyway, uh, I went back to my house earlier, and you'll never believe this. My house is covered in black mold. Must have grown overnight. We're talking all over the walls, absolutely everywhere! Crazy, right? Anyway, I'm gonna stay with my friend Ames for a while until I can get it taken care of.
00:13:30
Speaker
So if you come back, and I'm not there, that's why. But, you know, if you want to, you should, I mean, you can call me if

Lara's Escape and Home Mold Discovery

00:13:38
Speaker
you need anything. And try to stay out of the main house, okay? There's like, a lot of mold. Must be something with the rain, or something. Okay, okay, okay. See you around.
00:14:02
Speaker
An ambulance? I didn't know they had those out here. Well, if anything else comes up, don't hesitate to call. Thank you, Sheriff Tate. Now if...
00:14:16
Speaker
What the hell? Uh... Laura Campbell, are you kidding me? Terry Boone? Okay, how did I get to your house? God, I swear this town is like 10 feet wide. Is there a problem here, Terry? I'd say so. No, listen, I swear I didn't come here on purpose. I just, I had to get away from... Actually, Sheriff, I really need to talk to you. It's about the doctor. Oh, soda pop. Hey, buddy.
00:14:47
Speaker
Soda pop.
00:14:49
Speaker
Laura? Rose, what are you doing here? Okay, so like I was explaining, I was running away from Dr. Simmons. Penelope Simmons? She attacked me. What? Oh, come on. Listen, this stuff that you guys have been messing with, it's so dangerous. It messes with your head. Dr. Simmons has been experimenting with some kind of fungus, and it's just driving her... Well, if you come with me, you'll see.
00:15:17
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Right. Everyone's crazy but you, right, Lara? That's not what I said. Right, but this... What did you say it was? It's a kind of fungus, I think. Uh-huh, and this fungus doesn't affect you. No, I seem to have some kind of immunity. Isn't that convenient? Everyone else has the problem.
00:15:38
Speaker
Sure sounds convenient to me. No, ugh, listen, I found mushrooms in the water supply and there's mold in the house and Reverend Boone's church. Oh, so you did trespass at the church after our conversation the other day, hm? Um, that's not really, that's not what I'm trying to say. You know what? I really cannot deal with you right now. Terry, why don't you go back inside? I'll handle this.
00:16:08
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I want it clear that she's trespassing, Sheriff. I know, Terri. Wait, Terri, mere boons. Just get her out of here. A fungus, Lara? The symptoms, everything that's been happening, it's consistent with a toxic fungal outbreak. Why would you think that? Well, the doctor and I talked it over. The doctor who attacked you? Well, I mean, before that.
00:16:37
Speaker
Okay, look, why don't you come with me and we'll discuss it further, okay? Uh, Sheriff, wait.

Resistance to Fungal Concerns

00:16:45
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Laura, I heard you've been to the woods. The sanctum. You saw the basement. Yeah. And you think all of that is fungus. Well, if you look at how fungal networks work, then the images that you drew, oh god, how do I explain this? Why do you do this, Laura?
00:17:05
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To what? You take the things I love, the things I believe in, and you make them sound so small, so stupid. That's not what I'm trying to do. This is real, Lara, and it's bigger than you know. I know it feels that way, but- Would you stop? I swear to God, every time I try to tell you, it's not all in my head, Lara.
00:17:28
Speaker
It never was. I don't mean it like that. I mean, just because something's in your head doesn't mean it's not real. Just enough. Please. All right, Miss Campbell. Rose, wait. Just get her out of here, please. If I could just explain it all. That's enough, Miss Campbell. Now, I can give you a ride home, or I can take you down to the sheriff's station in the Dalles. Your choice. Okay. I'm sorry.
00:17:58
Speaker
Come on. Laura, wait. Yeah? You should take the dog. So to pop? He shouldn't be here. He needs... You need to take him away. Are you sure? He seems so happy.
00:18:17
Speaker
I can't. It's better if he's not here. Rose, if we could just talk, please. Take him back to Portland and I'll call you. Okay? We can talk. Okay. Yeah, I guess that's best. It is. Um, Sheriff, do you mind if I take him? Fine. Just stick him in the bag. Is he gonna cry like that the whole time? Ugh, probably.
00:18:47
Speaker
Well, come on then. Goodbye, puppy. I'm sorry. I hope... I hope you understand someday. Let's go, Miss Campbell. I've got other business today, you know. Yeah, okay. Goodbye, Rose. Goodbye.
00:19:23
Speaker
I can't believe you had a dog seat belt back there. Well, my wife and I take the Shih Tzu out with us. Oh, you have a Shih Tzu. They're cute. Wife's idea. Okay, you see what I'm saying about Dr. Simmons though, right? I will go see her as soon as I drop you off. And the water supply? I'll be sure to mention it at the next city council meeting. Sure. That'll solve it.
00:19:52
Speaker
What was that? Hold on. What, a deer? It was a possum, I think. Is something falling on us? Probably just pine cones. No, there's something on top of the car. Could be raccoons, but they climb the trees. I've never seen one drop onto a car. Oh, my god. It's trying to come through the sunroof. Close it. How do you? A little busy here. This rope is a mess. Oh, god. Let me just.
00:20:19
Speaker
Ooh!

Raccoon-Induced Chaos in Car

00:20:21
Speaker
Raccoon in the car! Raccoon in the car! Shit! I think there's something wrong with it! So, Papa, no, leave it! Get it off me! Come on, get it off me! Stop the car! I'm trying, but the brakes... Okay, come here, you demonic little piece of shit!
00:20:46
Speaker
Close that sunroof, would you? Oh god, let me get the window. There! Jesus, it rolled over and just started chasing the car. Where'd that elk come from? You have got to stop the car! The brakes are out. I'm trying to slow it down, but...

Episode Credits and Listener Encouragement

00:21:41
Speaker
Thank you for listening to Believer. This episode was written and directed by Julie Saunders. Voice acting by Jason Markoff, Samantha Simmons-Ronceros, Rosa Delgado, Reagan Wilson, Julie Saunders, and Archie. Sound design by Esther Ellis and Julie Saunders.
00:21:58
Speaker
We are just two episodes away from the end of season one, so now is a great time to tell your friends about

Podcast Recommendation: 'Tunnels'

00:22:05
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the show. Maybe you know someone with some travel coming up who might like some spooky listening. A show that this one pairs quite well with is Tunnels, which just published their series finale. Tunnels is a serialized audio drama about the mysterious tunnels beneath a small Georgia town, the things that live within them, and the people who want to control them.
00:22:26
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You can find out more at hauntedgriffin.com. That's hauntedgriffin spelled G-R-I-F-F-I-N dot com.

Zencaster Recording Information

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That page also includes information about our Patreon and a link to our tea public store for all the Believer fans in your life who might need gifts coming up. Once again, that's BelieverPodcast.com slash support.
00:23:05
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The next episode will be out in just a few weeks. Until then, if the temperature suddenly drops and you feel a chill on the back of your neck that nobody else seems to notice, you've probably been out in the cold for too long. Get into shelter and wear a scarf next time, unless it's not cold where you are. Then it might be a ghostly warning to get your iron and thyroid levels tested. Both can make you sensitive to the cold. Thank you, Dr. Ghost.
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Bye now.

Zencaster's Role During Pandemic

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This episode was sponsored by Zencaster. You may have heard me talk about Zencaster before. When we first started the show, we were recording in person in a studio about halfway through the season, a global pandemic hit, and made it impossible for us to meet in person. The only reason that we were able to come back from hiatus was Zencaster. Because we were recording in person, not everybody in the cast was even set up to record remotely.
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